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Old 05-28-2014, 12:06 AM   #1
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NBC Brian Williams interview with Edward Snowden - 5/28/14

Full title: NBC News Exclusive with Brian Williams: Inside the Mind of Edward Snowden

Will be on 5/28/14 @ 10 pm on NBC.

NBC Nightly News was promoting it and aired a brief clip. The text at http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/edwar...ed-spy-n115746 is basically what the news covered + a little more.

Anyone going to watch? I've got my TiVo set to record it.
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:00 AM   #2
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Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:23 AM   #3
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You're welcome!

I also stumbled across http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/nsa...lliams-n110351, which also says
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The former NSA contractor's first-ever American television interview will air in an hour-long NBC News primetime special on Wednesday, May 28 at 10 p.m. Eastern/9 p.m. Central.

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I'm absolutely watching it. I'll have to time-shift it for Thursday since 10 PM is too late for me.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:16 AM   #5
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Anyone going to watch? I've got my TiVo set to record it.
Only if Brian Williams is a closet CIA agent and whacks him on live TIVO/TV.. (Unless Williams gets outed before the interview !!)
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Old 05-28-2014, 12:34 PM   #7
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Only if Brian Williams is a closet CIA agent and whacks him on live TIVO/TV.. (Unless Williams gets outed before the interview !!)
You think they'd air this live? Please, this was taped over a week ago in Russia.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:49 AM   #8
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You think they'd air this live? Please, this was taped over a week ago in Russia.
Well, in that case, wouldn't it have been better to have Williams whack Putin?

The Secretary could disavow and put the blame on NBCUniversal-Comcast, who could allege that it was all set up back when GE was the owner and that they had no prior knowledge.



And GE could say "Whatchoo talkin' bout, Willis?"
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You think they'd air this live? Please, this was taped over a week ago in Russia.
OMG....Really..?? You mean so they can edit and stuff...or not locate with a live signal or something ?? (unless the ping his phone of course, or Brian Williams....) Thanks for the info
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It's available with added panel afterwards at http://nbcnews.com

Snowden is a patriot, but they can't just let him walk so anybody with a clearance thinks they can do the same.

My thought is that Snowden will have to be in exile for 10-20 years until he finally gets a pardon from President Chelsea Clinton.
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It's available with added panel afterwards at http://nbcnews.com

Snowden is a patriot, but they can't just let him walk so anybody with a clearance thinks they can do the same.

My thought is that Snowden will have to be in exile for 10-20 years until he finally gets a pardon from President Chelsea Clinton.
The GRU cant let him leave...yet..You have a pretty low bar for Patriotism..The telephone metadata is a extremely minute amount of info he stole...The rest is some extremely heavy duty stuff that compromised sources and methods and will cost BILLIONS and lives....
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The GRU cant let him leave...yet..You have a pretty low bar for Patriotism..The telephone metadata is a extremely minute amount of info he stole...The rest is some extremely heavy duty stuff that compromised sources and methods and will cost BILLIONS and lives....
Care to comment on PRISM, which was a hell of a lot more than telephone metadata.
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The GRU cant let him leave...yet..You have a pretty low bar for Patriotism..The telephone metadata is a extremely minute amount of info he stole...The rest is some extremely heavy duty stuff that compromised sources and methods and will cost BILLIONS and lives....
Oh no...it's going to cost a lot of money to stop the government from trampling all over the fourth amendment?

It's like a thief complaining to the judge that the only reason he will serve time is because someone caught him...
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The GRU cant let him leave...yet..You have a pretty low bar for Patriotism..The telephone metadata is a extremely minute amount of info he stole...The rest is some extremely heavy duty stuff that compromised sources and methods and will cost BILLIONS and lives[/....
You know how I know you didn't watch?
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Care to comment on PRISM, which was a hell of a lot more than telephone metadata.
The journalists have a lot more stuff that they're vetting and running by legal, etc.

I can see how the NSA lost the flick and it became, "AND, AND AND we can get this and sort this, and math it with this, and churn this and we'll know when he needs to take a dump before he does!" and nowhere along the way was anybody saying, "Umm guys, should we be doing this?"

Snowden asked - several times. Snowden was told to stop asking questions.
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You know how I know you didn't watch?
Your right...

You know how I know you are so gullible...??
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Snowden asked - several times. Snowden was told to stop asking questions.
I just wish he had somehow run everything past a sympathetic senator or something before making it public.

I was surprised that Williams didn't ask Snowden who is paying his bills in Russia? I'm assuming the US froze his bank accounts.

I was also surprised that Snowden seemed so amazed about what seemed like just a real time key logger program.
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...I was surprised that Williams didn't ask Snowden who is paying his bills in Russia? I'm assuming the US froze his bank accounts..
Dunno, but Snowden planned for quite a while so he must have taken steps to have money stashed overseas. As he says he was assigned overseas many times.

If there was IndieGoGo project for him, he'd become a millionaire.

You just know that once he writes a book, it'll be "SEE! THAT'S WHY HE DID IT! FOR THE MONEY!"

More importantly, how does a guy who never got High School diploma get a job like that?
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Snowden asked - several times. Snowden was told to stop asking questions.
Is there any actual proof of that?

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Is there any actual proof of that?
Yes. Only what they want to release.

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/edwar...oncern-n118011

Snowden says he send dozens of emails.

NBC sent a FOA request.
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I just wish he had somehow run everything past a sympathetic senator or something before making it public.
apart from any opinion of snowden and the document releases, there's one thing i believe to be true - the public discussion over the programs would have never taken place if he had addressed his concerns through acceptable or proper channels, even with help from sympathetic lawmakers.

once that kind of power is granted, it will be protected at all costs, and never willingly given up, or dissenters listened to. like asking a wartime general if more troops are needed, or asking a surgeon if surgery is recommended - ask any government agency if it's legal, and the answer will most likely be "yes".
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Yes. Only what they want to release.

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/edwar...oncern-n118011

Snowden says he send dozens of emails.

NBC sent a FOA request.
Yah, that's the one where the guy he sent a question told him to call back if he had any more concerns. Not really "told to ask no more questions" that Snowden said.

I'll wait for all those supposed emails to be released to believe that he sent them.

Right now they are in the same realm as him being a super spy.

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apart from any opinion of snowden and the document releases, there's one thing i believe to be true - the public discussion over the programs would have never taken place if he had addressed his concerns through acceptable or proper channels, even with help from sympathetic lawmakers.

once that kind of power is granted, it will be protected at all costs, and never willingly given up, or dissenters listened to. like asking a wartime general if more troops are needed, or asking a surgeon if surgery is recommended - ask any government agency if it's legal, and the answer will most likely be "yes".
But why is Snowden's granting himself the power to release whatever documents he feels like any better?

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Yah, that's the one where the guy he sent a question told him to call back if he had any more concerns. Not really "told to ask no more questions" that Snowden said.

I'll wait for all those supposed emails to be released to believe that he sent them.

Right now they are in the same realm as him being a super spy.
You don't get told to stop asking questions in writing.
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But why is Snowden's granting himself the power to release whatever documents he feels like any better?

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Snowden gave all the documents to Greenwald from The Guardian to do with as he pleases. Snowden doesn't have anything anymore (You would know that if you watched the interview).

You should watch Frontline's "United States of Secrets". it was pretty good at telling the story of why Snowden did things the way he did.
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Snowden gave all the documents to Greenwald from The Guardian to do with as he pleases. Snowden doesn't have anything anymore (You would know that if you watched the interview).

You should watch Frontline's "United States of Secrets". it was pretty good at telling the story of why Snowden did things the way he did.
So Snowden shows his disapproval of the NSA scooping up tons of data indiscriminately is to steal and give to reporters tons of data indiscriminately.

Makes sense.

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So Snowden shows his disapproval of the NSA scooping up tons of data indiscriminately is to steal and give to reporters tons of data indiscriminately.

Makes sense.
Snowden depended on Greenwald to check the documents including with the government and decide what, when and how to release them to avoid harm. They have staff and legal going over them
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That's not any more comforting.

I'm not sure why a reporters judgment and motives whether to release or not release an item is any more trustworthy then the government's?

Especially a reporter like Greenwald who was angry at the government for not recognizing his marriage.

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I'm not sure why a reporters judgment and motives whether to release or not release an item is any more trustworthy then the government's?
Because that's what reporting is. Sure, Greenwald could have (and still could) just do an information dump, but he'd be immediately discredited and it would likely end his career.
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I'll wait for all those supposed emails to be released to believe that he sent them.
If you are waiting for the NSA to be honest, don't hold your breath. Time and again, NSA officials went before CONGRESS and testified that they were not doing certain things, only to later be proven that they were doing those exact things.
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