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Old 01-31-2014, 12:15 PM   #1
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Sharknado 2!

Guess who's back for the sequel...
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Old 02-01-2014, 02:49 AM   #2
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Can someone explain to me who watched it? I mean, I tried to watch it - I got about 10 minutes in then hat to turn it off. I know people here seemed to enjoy mocking it.

But obviously there are plenty of people who enjoyed it and the million showings of it (thanks Shark Week) and probably bought the DVDs by the truckload...

Or is it something no one wants to admit to liking and watching?
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Old 02-01-2014, 04:34 AM   #3
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Can someone explain to me who watched it?
I'm not sure I watched it all, but I gave it a try.

Explanation:

Frequently in history there have been times in various arts when types (kinda like but not really genres) of works have been sincerely produced by artists, and then subsequently the underling principles of the type have proven so absurd that those sincerely produced works can be enjoyed as deviations or excesses, particularly when they have a self-consistent style that is wonderful to wallow in.

Parallel to that, there have also been inept artists in a variety of valid types who have through good fortune or perseverance or luck been able to get their works into a public awareness.

In the late 1950s/early 1960s a school of criticism developed proposing such works as "camp," so bad that they're really good. That was fine.

The Batman TV series in the late 1960s(?) was an example of an effort to artificially produce camp in a self-aware manner. It was an admitted total failure (in terms of camp intent) by the creative staff, but it was fairly successful commercially because it actually was cute in unintentional ways to a variety of non-camp-oriented viewers. People have been trying to repeat that success ever since. Early on it was discovered that you could do cheap crap and pretend it was "camp" (Batman had actually been a fairly classy production) and a reasonably-sized audience would fool themselves into thinking they were in on some trendy joke.

This went on for a long time, with some minor successes and lots of dreck.

Then the SF (or whatever) Channel thought they could mass produce sub-drek and fool a minuscule but marginally profitable audience into thinking that they were experiencing something fun. The degradation of that process continued to the extreme of Sharknado (maybe beyond camp and into some whole other phenomenon that will be better understood in a few decades) and Sharknado II was inevitable.
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I haven't seen the first one yet, but I LOVE movies that are so bad they are good!

The worst are movies that are bad but try to be good.
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Old 02-01-2014, 08:54 AM   #5
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You gotta love a movie where sharks jump the humans almost from the very start.

For a sequel? Zombienados vs Sharknados!!!!
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:08 AM   #6
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I haven't seen the first one yet, but I LOVE movies that are so bad they are good!

The worst are movies that are bad but try to be good.
Sharknado happens to be the latter.

It's just... awful. Which is why I never understood why Sharknado II was announced about a week after Sharknado was broadcast and they said it was well received.

And given how often it was rebroadcast on multiple channels (it seemed everyone had shown it multiple times), I thought it must've been something good.

But 15 minutes in, I turned off the dreck.

I mean, every channel had it on, multiple times, it was the talk of the town everywhere I went... and yet, I couldn't find anyone who liked it. Just lots of talk.

Edit: It feels like one year-long April Fool's joke, to be honest. And really, I do like dreck - it seems a lot of movies people hate, I end up liking. I've generated an interpretation of movie ratings - 2-3 stars is a show I'd really like, 1 is dreck, 4-5 are too heavy for entertainment.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:54 AM   #7
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Sharknado happens to be the latter.
No. Sharknado was made specifically as camp. It never had any aspirations that it was a good movie.

The guys of MST3K, Cinematic Titanic, and Rifftrax made a career out of movies that were bad but tried to be good. One excellent example that Rifftrax recently did was "Birdemic: Shock and Terror." There is no indication that the creator of Birdemic, James Nguyen, set out to make a bad film, but that's what it ended up as.

Personally, films like "Sharknado" that deliberately set out to be cheesy, campy, schlock aren't enjoyable. It's the unintentionally bad that are hilarious. But - your mileage may vary. There are apparently a large number of people that reveled in Sharknado's blatant, deliberate over-the-top campiness.
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:19 PM   #8
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Old 02-05-2014, 12:41 AM   #9
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No. Sharknado was made specifically as camp. It never had any aspirations that it was a good movie.

Agreed it is a movie that went well with adult beverages and vocal friends.
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:52 AM   #10
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Agreed it is a movie that went well with adult beverages and vocal friends.
Aaaahh.....

I guess step one was to imbibe a rather large quantity of adult beverages beforehand.

Never occurred to me - I'm a teetotaler.

The DVD should've had it on the box as a viewing suggestion.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:18 AM   #11
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I probably would have loved watching this back in the sixties. For some reason, everything was funnier to me back then. I mean, how else can you explain the popularity of Firesign Theater?
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:15 PM   #12
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I probably would have loved watching this back in the sixties. For some reason, everything was funnier to me back then. I mean, how else can you explain the popularity of Firesign Theater?
...or Monty Python's Flying Circus...or Fawlty Towers...or....or....ANYTHING in the 60s
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:24 PM   #13
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...or Monty Python's Flying Circus...or Fawlty Towers...or....or....ANYTHING in the 60s
Actually, I still like Monty Python and Fawlty Towers. Monty Python and the Holy Grail is still a classic and one of my all time favorites. Firesign Theater required you to have a certain mindset before you could sit down and listen to it, if you get my drift.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:45 PM   #14
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...or Monty Python's Flying Circus...or Fawlty Towers...or....or....ANYTHING in the 60s
That's blasphemy!!

Sharknado isn't entertainment, on any level, regardless of the amount of mind altering substances consumed.

Monty Python/Fawlty Towers stand up well if you're sober or under the influence.

There, I said it!


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Old 02-05-2014, 07:49 PM   #15
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Can someone explain to me who watched it? I mean, I tried to watch it - I got about 10 minutes in then hat to turn it off. I know people here seemed to enjoy mocking it.
I half-watched it with a tablet computer in my hand for the water cooler aspect. It was definitely ridiculous and poorly made; I can't say I found it enjoyable. Intentional camp just doesn't work for me, though I do watch it sober so maybe that's the problem.
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:12 AM   #16
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A kid I know wears a t-shirt that says "I Survived Sharknado". That explains the whole thing, really. People watch it as a challenge or dare to make it through the whole thing. Only some of us (including myself, here) succeed in that.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:01 AM   #17
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I TiVo'd it because of the buzz. But I haven't found it in me to actually watch it.

I suspect some day, when I'm in JUST the right mood, I'll give it a shot.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:04 AM   #18
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I TiVo'd it because of the buzz. But I haven't found it in me to actually watch it.

I suspect some day, when I'm in JUST the right mood, I'll give it a shot.
Yeah, I'm saving it up for when I'm hammered with some friends and put it on in the background while doing something else
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Yeah, I'm saving it up for when I'm hammered with some friends and put it on in the background while doing something else
Booze or heroin?
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:43 AM   #21
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Booze or heroin?
Man I was I was in High School, both would be so easily available, I wouldn't be able to decide.

Since my heroin stash at home is gone, time to drink my booze!
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Dang, I think I just let it cycle off the hard drive for me.

Oh well.
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And for those who were curious what a Riffed version of the first one is like, RiffTrax is making it happen live in theaters July 10 (live) and 15 (taped repeat).

http://www.rifftrax.com/live
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I found the burning tumbleweed-nado that was on the news a couple of weeks back far more watchable.

(A Texas crew was doing a controlled burn when a sudden vortex opened up and started carrying tumbleweeds into the burn zone, resulting in a tornado full of burning tumbleweeds)
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I found the burning tumbleweed-nado that was on the news a couple of weeks back far more watchable.

(A Texas crew was doing a controlled burn when a sudden vortex opened up and started carrying tumbleweeds into the burn zone, resulting in a tornado full of burning tumbleweeds)
Benjy vortex?
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I found the burning tumbleweed-nado that was on the news a couple of weeks back far more watchable.

(A Texas crew was doing a controlled burn when a sudden vortex opened up and started carrying tumbleweeds into the burn zone, resulting in a tornado full of burning tumbleweeds)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcUnE0tHcaI

Don't know why they put in the guitar soundtrack though.
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I still have yet to watch the first one, but I think I want to do a viewing party for the second one (and possibly a rewatch prior).
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:19 PM   #29
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I never saw the first one. Until tonight. I went to see the Rifftrax riffed version of Sharknado 1... oh, holy hell was that bad. And utterly hilarious.

I take back what I said upthread about it not being enjoyable. This is now my second favorite Rifftrax, right after Birdemic: Shock and Horror.

If you haven't seen Sharknado 1, go and see the Rifftrax version of it. It replays in theaters next week, and it's worth every penny.
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It's more fun when you have at least one other person there with you to laugh at the absurdity. If anyone goes into a movie like this expecting it to be good then I blame the viewer.
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