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Old 02-23-2014, 04:24 PM   #1
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Question should Ilifetime a 2008 or 2010 Series 3?

I have two Series 3 TiVO (model #TCD652160) I got off CL for dirt cheap. Since i have numerous TiVos, I have the chance to lifetime one of them for now at $99. Will then either keep it (& put it in a guest room until I maybe get a newer one) or eventually sell it on CL/ebay. Both are working great right now, but I know this model has been plagued with capacitor problems in the power supply.

One is dated as being manufactured in 2008. The other was apparently made in 2010. Logic tells me to lifetime & keep the newer 2010 one. However, would it be better to lifetime the older one as they didn't have this problem as much? Or does it not matter and ALL Series 3s have had power supply problems?

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Old 02-23-2014, 05:56 PM   #2
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I have two Series 3 TiVO (model #TCD652160) I got off CL for dirt cheap. Since i have numerous TiVos, I have the chance to lifetime one of them for now at $99. Will then either keep it (& put it in a guest room until I maybe get a newer one) or eventually sell it on CL/ebay. Both are working great right now, but I know this model has been plagued with capacitor problems in the power supply.

One is dated as being manufactured in 2008. The other was apparently made in 2010. Logic tells me to lifetime & keep the newer 2010 one. However, would it be better to lifetime the older one as they didn't have this problem as much? Or does it not matter and ALL Series 3s have had power supply problems?
If you are at all comfortable with a soldering iron, why don't you recap one, then lifetime it? -- Doug
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:31 AM   #3
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I have two Series 3 TiVO (model #TCD652160) I got off CL for dirt cheap. Since i have numerous TiVos, I have the chance to lifetime one of them for now at $99. Will then either keep it (& put it in a guest room until I maybe get a newer one) or eventually sell it on CL/ebay. Both are working great right now, but I know this model has been plagued with capacitor problems in the power supply.

One is dated as being manufactured in 2008. The other was apparently made in 2010. Logic tells me to lifetime & keep the newer 2010 one. However, would it be better to lifetime the older one as they didn't have this problem as much? Or does it not matter and ALL Series 3s have had power supply problems?
If they're both 652s, then the power supplies are interchangeable.

If they both have the original 160GB hard drives, hook 'em up to a PC and run some sort of SMART utility that'll show you how many hours each has been run.

As far as whether the 2008 or 2010 motherboard itself is more reliable than the other one, I don't have enough anecdotal "data" to say.

And both of the two different power supplies that came with the 652s/658s are susceptible to the "capacitor plague" problem (as is the 648 supply).

That's why there are replacement lists for both in the bad cap thread.

Figure out which mobo you want to lifetime and keep the other unit for parts.
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Old 02-28-2014, 05:26 AM   #4
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All tivos are susceptible to death by capacitor and death by hdd failure. I would preemptively replace capacitors on the unit that looks the worst, and post upgrade would lifetime that one.

It's also worth noting, if one fails, and you still own both, you can move the power supply from one to the other with only a t10 and t15 screwdrivers.
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Old 02-28-2014, 06:44 PM   #5
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All tivos are susceptible to death by capacitor and death by hdd failure. I would preemptively replace capacitors on the unit that looks the worst, and post upgrade would lifetime that one.

It's also worth noting, if one fails, and you still own both, you can move the power supply from one to the other with only a t10 and t15 screwdrivers.
Not quite, you need a #8 or #9 to deal with the screw that goes into the top of the AC input jack from outside the chassis.
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Nice catch. I had forgotten that one.

Seeing as my afternoon plans are recapping and redriving 2 boxes, I may be driving back to work to get a T8 from my toolbox. damn...
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:54 PM   #7
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If they both have the original 160GB hard drives, hook 'em up to a PC and run some sort of SMART utility that'll show you how many hours each has been run.
I didn't know that you could find out how many hours a TiVo had been run.

All sounds like great advice.

If you could only get the lifetime, then have them update the software past the 11.0 and then get a free upgrade to Premiere! Or even better, upgrade to Romamio for $200!

But I guess they stopped those netflix breaking updates.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=515154
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:18 PM   #8
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I agree, knowing how long the unit was powered on would determine how much to sink into the unit. Cracking open the case and seeing how much dust is on the motherboard will give you a good idea, given the fan etc.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:27 PM   #9
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Smile Should I Lifetime a 2008 or 2010 Series 3?

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I agree, knowing how long the unit was powered on would determine how much to sink into the unit. Cracking open the case and seeing how much dust is on the motherboard will give you a good idea, given the fan etc.
If the caps are not bulging and the fan is operating properly it's probably worth spending $99 for the lifetime upgrade.

If the HD/power supply fails that's a pretty easy fix.

Good luck in whatever you decide!
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:53 AM   #10
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Big Grin

I actually wound up lifetiming both S3 units and sold them both on Craigslist. Done and Done
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