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Old 02-24-2014, 10:11 AM   #31
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I didn't mean to imply they're ending the show there.. it's just an extremely similar and familiar plot device.... just seems lazy to me.
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I'll just say that it's the heart of every zombie movie/story to have different "Sanctuary" places. Like Woodbury for example.

So 0 problem if they are heading towards what they THINK is another one.
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I agree the one guy was just knocked out and it was the bathroom guy who turned...which is why Rick made sure and opened the bathroom door so he could get out.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:15 AM   #33
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There are just too many sub plots, it's too disjointed. I count at least four major plot lines (groups), maybe 5? And they only let one or two play out per episode? Boring. And even more people making stupid decisions like Glenn and the scientist with the full auto gun taking out their only transport. All roads lead to sanctuary ... And they'll all be reunited ("because it feels so good"). BOOORRRRING.

But yeah, that new girl is a looker.
Thats my biggest problem with this show, the complete lack of common sense in the decision making of the characters.

That being said, I thought this was an excellent episode with the tension in the house with Rick hiding under the bed. More of this and less of the brooding episodes would be welcomed.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:16 AM   #34
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Creepiest thing so far in the entire series.
Too much sadness
That scene really choked me up-- in particular because the kid's name on the wall (Mae Mae) was the nickname we call our daughter and the letters were EXACTLY the same ones we have on her wall. Creepy indeed.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:26 AM   #35
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I got no problem with that one.
To be clear, that's not what I took issue with.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:28 AM   #36
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The same kind of guy who calls "First when the woman comes back"
True, they fit that mold. Still, I can't imagine they'd still be alive this long after the ZA if that behavior persisted. At the very least they'd just go ahead and put an ice pick in his ear once he hit the ground.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:29 AM   #37
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Un-spoilering.

I'll just say that it's the heart of every zombie movie/story to have different "Sanctuary" places. Like Woodbury for example.

So 0 problem if they are heading towards what they THINK is another one.
As long as it's not Woodbury II. Mild comics spoiler:
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One nice thing about the comics series is that over its 120 and counting issues, they have stumbled across a number of survivor communities, and each has had its own strengths and weaknesses.

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"I think I'll hide under the bed because......NO ONE EVER LOOKS THERE" -- Really?! You're searching a house and you don't think to look under a bed? Geez....

Other than that I liked this ep...definitely the reveal that, apparently, someone knows how to "fix" the ZA....
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:54 AM   #39
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"I think I'll hide under the bed because......NO ONE EVER LOOKS THERE" -- Really?!
Well if you are looking for zombies to clear a room, I wouldn't look under the bed most likely But every closet and behind every door, yup!
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Well if you are looking for zombies to clear a room, I wouldn't look under the bed most likely But every closet and behind every door, yup!
But they clearly stated they knew some girl/woman had been there because of the shirt they found. They obviously knew other survivors had been/were there...
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Also, under the bed is an obvious place to look if you are scavenging.
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I have to admit, and as much as I truly love this show, I was kind of bored during parts. I rode through on FF1 for a lot of the Rick hiding stuff and other parts.

I did have to go back and watch some parts again, after watching TD, because somehow I missed that Mullet Boy destroyed the vehicle. Initially I was confused as to why they decided to follow Glenn.

My least favorite parts were when the guys came into the Rick/Carl/Michonne house. I thought that would never end. I agree it was contrived and didn't add anything to the episode. He ended up catching Carl & Michonne as they approached and everybody lived happily ever after - for now. So, what was the point? It kind of felt like the boring weeks of trying to find Sophia, to me. I guess just being on the move again was the only point I can come up with.
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well it is obvious they do NOT have a bug out location. I can't believe they had a plan (the bus and it being stocked) but didn't have a set location to meet up at if they ever got seperated. d...u....m...b.
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I have to admit, and as much as I truly love this show, I was kind of bored during parts. I rode through on FF1 for a lot of the Rick hiding stuff and other parts.

I did have to go back and watch some parts again, after watching TD, because somehow I missed that Mullet Boy destroyed the vehicle. Initially I was confused as to why they decided to follow Glenn.

My least favorite parts were when the guys came into the Rick/Carl/Michonne house. I thought that would never end. I agree it was contrived and didn't add anything to the episode. He ended up catching Carl & Michonne as they approached and everybody lived happily ever after - for now. So, what was the point? It kind of felt like the boring weeks of trying to find Sophia, to me. I guess just being on the move again was the only point I can come up with.
The point was to get Rick/Carl/Michonne on the move again, otherwise they would have just stayed at that house
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See, that's what I mean. Not only do we have the prison group all split up, now we have two NEW groups (the army guy et al, and the nasties in the house). Maybe they'll both be short lived plots, but seriously, there is so much more they could do with the existing cast without spreading the plots so thin there's no more plot, just "situation" drama.


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Didn't "I am Legend" also end with everyone (non-zombie) meeting up at a walled "Sanctuary" type place? Couldn't TWD writers do better than just copy that story line? Guess not.
Just for clarification those were vampires in "I am Legend" and not zombies.
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Just for clarification those were vampires in "I am Legend" and not zombies.
For further clarification the spoiler only happened in the movie, not in the original story. (though I have no objection to it.)
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I will never understand people who claim to love the show, but FFWD through sections, then wonder how they missed critical bits of story. ??
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well it is obvious they do NOT have a bug out location. I can't believe they had a plan (the bus and it being stocked) but didn't have a set location to meet up at if they ever got seperated. d...u....m...b.
This this this.

And how many miles can you travel in 3 hours?

Not sure of course how fast they were going, it was country roads and such, so I can't imagine too fast, but still, it seems like a long travel back.

The mullet guy reminded me of the Gov's assistant and a little bit of Forrest Gump.
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btw...have we seen a baby walker yet? I thought for sure we were going to get one last night!
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:39 PM   #50
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Well if you are looking for zombies to clear a room, I wouldn't look under the bed most likely But every closet and behind every door, yup!
I would look under the bed, but not for walkers. I'd be looking for things I could use just like Michonne and Carl are doing in the other houses.
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It is the "scientist" that irritated me the most. He shoots up the truck instead of firing in the air or honking the horn to get the attention if the rest. He then has the nerve to say, "I'm smarter than you." Don't think so.
He didn't shoot up the truck on purpose. He clearly had never handled a gun before, especially not a fully automatic one, and it just got away from him as he pulled the trigger.

The thing that bugged me about that scene is why would the Cornfield Walkers come out of the field and start heading toward the one scientist standing by the truck, when there were four people standing on the road in the other direction, and Glenn and Ford were fighting and making noise?
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"I think I'll hide under the bed because......NO ONE EVER LOOKS THERE" -- Really?! You're searching a house and you don't think to look under a bed? Geez....
What were Rick's other options?
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...The thing that bugged me about that scene is why would the Cornfield Walkers come out of the field and start heading toward the one scientist standing by the truck, when there were four people standing on the road in the other direction, and Glenn and Ford were fighting and making noise?
Not to mention that he was the only one actually being quite. The others were all in a scuffle.

Just chalk it up to the mystery appearing walker in a field, problem



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btw...have we seen a baby walker yet? I thought for sure we were going to get one last night!
I don't think so, at least I don't recall ever seeing one. I hope we never do. The little girl in ep. 1 was more than enough to drive the point home... for me anyways.

Though it wouldn't surprise me if the did show one just for the shock/ewww/creepy factor. Especially if the ratings begin to wane.
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He didn't shoot up the truck on purpose. He clearly had never handled a gun before, especially not a fully automatic one, and it just got away from him as he pulled the trigger.
The biggest problem I had with that scene is the fact that a fully automatic weapon doesn't travel side to side when it gets away from you. It will climb on you, thus sending your rounds high.

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Just more wax on the skis.
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What were Rick's other options?
Quickly out the window. Not a great option, but better than hiding under the bed, a place scavengers are sure to look.

Speaking of which, is Rick dumber than a box of rocks? When he was trying to open the windows, he did not appear to look at or fiddle with the latch on the windows. He just tried to pull them open.

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Not to mention that he was the only one actually being quite. The others were all in a scuffle.
Actually, he did mention that. In the part you quoted.
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I hated the stuff with Rick in the house. Why would he move from under the bed? He should have been content to stay under that bed for days if he needed to, just to wait until those people left. He had no way to know if the floor would creak when he moved, or if the guy on the bed was a light sleeper.
Well, he had 2 problems: 1) Michonne and Carl would be coming back sooner or later, and 2) the dude who had been kicked off the bed and lost the fight had seen Rick, and he was just unconscious, not dead, so Rick needed to be gone before he came to. So Rick didn't have much of a choice - he had to get out of there first chance he could.

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And then when he went in the bathroom and clearly wasn't very quiet while closing the door, when there was someone else right outside, that was just ridiculous. But then he gets in a big fight in the bathroom, slamming into walls, knocking stuff off the counter, etc., and yet the others in the house don't hear anything? Maybe they were all deaf.
Yeah, that part was ridiculous.
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See, that's what I mean. Not only do we have the prison group all split up, now we have two NEW groups (the army guy et al, and the nasties in the house). Maybe they'll both be short lived plots, but seriously, there is so much more they could do with the existing cast without spreading the plots so thin there's no more plot, just "situation" drama.


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Didn't "I am Legend" also end with everyone (non-zombie) meeting up at a walled "Sanctuary" type place? Couldn't TWD writers do better than just copy that story line? Guess not.
Remember that they have source material that they are following (though not precisely) and that source material was around well before The "I Am Legend" movie came out.
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But they clearly stated they knew some girl/woman had been there because of the shirt they found. They obviously knew other survivors had been/were there...
But they didn't say that until *after* the guy had napped on the bed for a bit, and the group (or at least part of them) were on their way out of the house (which was the one guy came back up to grab his gun). So I'm sure in that dude's mind the room had been cleared already.
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