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martinwh
05-02-2001, 05:09 PM
Edit by moderator GarySargent:

This thread contains old (at least a month old) reports of guide data problems. New problems should be reported in this thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29736) and will eventually be archived to this one so that the thread is less cluttered and easier to read.

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Why the new thread?

What was wrong with http://www.avsforum.com/ubbtivo/Forum12/HTML/000200.html (except the embarassment it may cause TiVo)?

Martin

xneilj
05-02-2001, 05:27 PM
Nothing to do with embarassment, you just posted before I'd had a chance to close the old one http://www.avsforum.com/ubbtivo/smile.gif. We try not to let threads get too long as it can cause problems with the board software so it's common practice across all forums to close long running threads and start a fresh one (e.g. see the thread(s) about donating for a new server). I've made a few other changes tonight and we now have 3 separate threads to report the type of problems usually found in the old error thread.

Neil.

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See the TiVo UK FAQ at http://www.tivoukfaq.com

pauljs
05-02-2001, 06:25 PM
KT15
Sky Digital
BBC Choice 160
Eastenders
22:00
Description always refers to repeats of old shows on UK Gold etc..
This programme is the daily repeat of the current BBC1 show

Verne
05-03-2001, 05:17 AM
IP4 1LZ
NTL Analogue cable
Sky One
Channel 01
Stargate SG-1
Monday's at 21:00

Programme description is always for the following week's episode.

coderus
05-03-2001, 05:51 AM
IP3 9TQ
C400 (Paramount)
Provider - NTL Digital Plus
Guide Data should only be from 19:00 -> 0400.

manolan
05-03-2001, 03:16 PM
- Postcode SW6
- Service Provider Aerial
- Channel Name BBC2SE
- Channel Number 33
- Programme Name Look and Read
- Time/Date of airing Tue/Thu 11:30am
- Problem encountered Described as "Drama", so my TiVo keeps recording it, but it is an educational programme (as the description reveals).


[This message has been edited by manolan (edited 05-04-2001).]

Ianl
05-09-2001, 04:34 PM
Postcode : GU2
- Service Provider: analog cable
Channel Name: UK gold
- Channel Number : 8
- Programme Name: the Bill
- Time/Date of airing: every weekday, 3 times a day - Problem encountered: description is the same for every episode for the forseable future, but is specific to one episode

Richardr
05-11-2001, 06:10 PM
- Postcode AL3 (but national service)
- Service Provider Sky Digital
- Channel Name - BBC1
- Channel Number - 101
- Programme Name - Weekend Watchdog / Top of the Pops
- Time/Date of airing - 11 May - 7:00 & 7:30
- Problem encountered

Tonight on BBC1 Watchdog was followed by Top of the Pops. Unfortunately via TIVO, if you recorded both, Watchdog recorded until 7:30, Top of the Pops started 7:35. TOTP was correct, 5 minutes was missed out on Watchdog.

Seems strange that 5 minutes can go missing from a channel!

Still nothing like as bad as the ITV schedule tonight which I notice is in a different thread.

OzSat
05-12-2001, 02:14 AM
Postcode: OX5
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name Sky Sports 1
Channel Number: 401
Programme Name: several
Time/Date of airing: from midnight on Saturday 12th May
Problem encountered: revised schedule published is not implemented into TiVo so Sunday morning times and programmes are wrong

Brangdon
05-14-2001, 03:08 PM
Postcode: NG10
Service Provider: OnDigital
Channel Name: UKPANI (Paramount/Nickelodeon)
Programme Name: Dharma & Greg
Time/Date of airing: 7:30pm 14 May

TiVo lists this slot as Sister, Sister. It should be Dharma & Greg.

I am pretty sure this is a generic problem for UKPANI programmes between 7pm and 8pm. It's as if TiVo did not switch from Nickelodeon to Paramount until an hour late.

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It's only television.

Automan
05-15-2001, 06:04 AM
Postcode - BN25
Service Provider - Sky Digital
Channel Name - Hallmark
Channel Number - 190
Programme Name - Flambards
Time/Date of airing 11:00 14/5 & 15/5
Problem encountered - Flambards is not in this time slot? Some cop show with Dick Van Dyke "Diagnosis Murder" instead.

Sky EPG is also in error for this program as well.

Automan.

earthling
05-15-2001, 03:32 PM
- Postcode TW9 3HD
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) SKY
- Channel Name BBC CHOICE
- Channel Number ?
- Programme Name Alistair McGowan's Big Impression
- Time/Date of airing 19-May-01 20:30
- Problem encountered A different program name altogether appears in the guide

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Thanks in advance.

Chris

Maclynn
05-15-2001, 05:46 PM
B43 7HX
SKY
BBC1
Channel 101
East Enders
19.30
15/5/01
Description is for an episode that is years out of date.
How on earth is this possible.
Mike.

alunj
05-16-2001, 03:09 AM
CF61
Sky Digi
BBC2 Wales
102
A History of Britain
15 May 2001 9:00 reported as start time by tivo
This is corrrect for BBC2 UK but wales started at 9:30 PM
All other programs after this were also wrong e.g. God the devil and Bob Should be 11:35 On BBC2 Wa but show as the UK time.

BrianHughes
05-17-2001, 05:58 AM
BT15 5DZ
Channel 400 (Paramount Comedy Channel)
Provider - NTL Digital Plus
Guide Data should only be from 7pm to 4am This channel is not avaliable at other times.

AndyMJ
05-19-2001, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by xneilj:

- Postcode
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.)
- Channel Name
- Channel Number
- Programme Name
- Time/Date of airing
- Problem encountered



MK6
SkyDigital
Sky Premiere 1
301
Fight Club
20/5/01 02:00
The whole schedule for SkyPrem1 is wrong - according to Sky's EPG (for example) Fight Club is on at 02:00 - yet Tivo does'nt even have a film starting at 2am!!!

BTW - what good is this anyway? Is the info passed to Tivo?

Andy

Ianl
05-21-2001, 02:31 PM
Postcode : GU2
- Service Provider: analog cable
Channel Name: UK gold
- Channel Number : 8
- Programme Name: the Bill
- Time/Date of airing: every weekday, 3 times a day
- Problem encountered:they seem to pick one episode description and use it for all episodes in a 7 to 10 day period

Channel Name:sky one
Channel Number : 7
- Programme Name:Buffy the vampire slayer and Angel
- Time/Date of airing:fridays 8pm and 9pm

some episodes have corect descriptions but others are a generic description of the program rather than the specific episode and list people that have left the series


also once the description is in the to do list it does not seem to get updated, therefore you can get two diferent descriptions for the same program depending on whether you look from the to do list or live tv

Ian.

tivo_boj
05-22-2001, 02:37 AM
Postcode SS13
Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.)Aerial (Carlton) & Ondigital (Meridian)
Channel Name BBC1 BBC2 ITV Channel four
Channel Number 1,2,3,4 C23 C26 C30 C33
Programme Name Several eg Mesiah on sunday/Monday not shown
Problem encountered Lack of prgram data. ITV just states LWT for this satrday, BBC1 shows items like Movie, and "to be announced"

tivo_boj
05-23-2001, 05:13 AM
In the other thread "Server problems?", is a big issue on the amount of data for BBC, Channel 4 and ITV. It seems a move recently has been to reduce this less than a week. I beleive we must have a full two weeks in advance, upated daily to ensure a full two weeks.

This needs to be raised with TIVO (has Ted return from paternatity leave or is someone else from Tivo monitoring this forum)and Tribune. Without this the TIVO is no "fit for purpose" and could result in returns stating this for the reason.


Please Help

wxko
05-24-2001, 06:15 AM
- Postcode
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.)
- Channel Name
- Channel Number
- Programme Name
- Time/Date of airing
- Problem encountered
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-RH8 0TY
-Aerial + Sky Digital
-BBC1; BBC2; ITV; Ch4
-Terrestrial Ch57; Ch63; Ch60; Ch53
-No programme data after 1st June, although the "System Data" screen reports programme data to 9th June.
Daily calls are being made successfully.

Maclynn
05-24-2001, 06:13 PM
Looking at this thread I do hope TiVo dont have a long term contract with their listing providers.
If they do we will be sitting down with a TV mag and doing lots of manual recordings.
TiVo should be aware that the new Pace/Sky box will use their own EPG listings, which are far more accurate, and this alone may tempt away potential, or existing, customers.
Mike.

Richardr
05-25-2001, 06:23 PM
In the unlikely event that an entry in this thread is better than an entry in the sever problems thread:

Postcode: AL3
Service provider: Aerial
Channel name: ITV (London Weekend)
Channel Number: 61

I have nothing from 7am tomorrow to 1:05 Sunday morning.

Note I also pick up Anglia (another ITV region) on channel 28 and it is the same. Programmes begin from 1:05am Sunday morning on both regions.

I have no reason to record from ITV (since they do not appear on Sky my viewing of ITV has dropped to live football only), but the lack of Saturday programmes does not make sense.

Tim.Lad
05-26-2001, 08:57 AM
OL5 9LQ
Aerial + Sky Digital
BBC1; BBC2; ITV; Ch4; Ch5
Terrestrial Ch101; Ch102; Ch49; Ch104; Ch105
No programme data after 1st June, although the "System Data" screen reports programme data to 14th June.
Daily calls are being made successfully.

7 days of data is not good enough what is being done about this ?

tivo_boj
05-29-2001, 11:22 AM
Neil,

you started this thread, what is happening with the information it contains.

It seem this and the "server problem" thread are not having the desired effect as people are still having problems, and we have a lack of feedback (including our other avenue, CS).

If Tribune are monitoring this - whats the story on the lack of data for BBC,ITV ,Channel 4 etc.

If Tivo are monitoring this - Is it a tribune problem or a tivo problem (server etc.

xneilj
05-29-2001, 11:38 AM
The people responsible for providing the guide data are supposed to be monitoring these threads (although not providing direct feedback). At the moment, based on reports from several people, things appear to have been a little worse than usual and with Ted more or less away at the moment we'll have to wait and see what he says when he comes back whether there is something being done to improve the quality and reliability of the data.

I personally never seem to have much of a problem with the guide data (except when very late programme changes occur) but there are quite a few people who are unhappy with the guide data (perhaps for their region?) so it looks like things need to improve for some people at least.

For the time being I urge people to keep reporting problems here so that if nothing else it shows TiVo how many problems there are.

Neil.

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See the TiVo UK FAQ at http://www.tivoukfaq.com

Bateman
05-29-2001, 06:10 PM
Simpsons descriptions are starting to be constintly wrong again after a few months of being correct and last weekend it recorded what it thought was simpsons but was actually a very unfunny police academy.

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Charles Astwood
http://www.astwood.com

Ken Jude
05-30-2001, 02:00 AM
- AL7 1RH
- Sky Digital
- Channel 4
- 104
- Channel 4 Racing
- 13:45/28th May 2001
- Was listed as "Destiny's Child" in concert!

OzSat
06-06-2001, 10:34 AM
<FONT COLOR="Red">World Cup football today means very different schedules this afternoon for BBC-2 Northern Ireland and Wales - although TiVo does not reflect these.

It would seem that the same schedule is being used for BBC-2 England, Wales and Northern Ireland. The BBC-2 Scotland schedule is correct.</FONT c>

skeeve
06-07-2001, 04:21 AM
Very angry that my season pass for Friends has recently been interfering with my season pass for Buffy.

Those damn seasons passes are too dumb. They record every repeat of a programme, which with E4 showing programmes about 15 times a week causes no end of hassle.

My particular problem was the occasional scheduling of Friends at 8.30 on a Friday, which overrode my Buffy at 8.00. Which meant I missed the season finale. Grrrrrrrr.


TV schedules like Digiguide, know all the information about a programme including the Series and Episode numbers. Why can't Tivo use this information - which they must surely have, to grab only one copy of an episode per season pass ? Even better, allow me to subscribe to a single series (or multiple series) as I choose.

cjhcjh
06-15-2001, 02:40 AM
Postcode: SW1V 3RY
OnDigital
E4 (Channel 42)
Thurs June 14th 9pm

- Tivo EPG had Friends from 9pm until 10pm and ER from 10pm until 11pm.
- Actual broadcast was Friends 9pm-9.30pm and ER 9.30pm-10.30pm

JonL
06-16-2001, 04:35 PM
CF15
Aerial Analogue/Aerial OnDigital
BBC2 Wales
Wenvoe Ch51 / OnDigital Ch2

The programme guide does not reflect any of the regional output on BBC2 in Wales whether Analogue Terrestrial or Digital Terrestrial. Although the Digital output has only recently followed BBC2 Wales regional programmes.

For example during last week Cardiff Singer of the World has been on at 7:30pm in Wales.
Tomorrow (Sun 17th June) there is Wales v Japan Rugby at 8:15am, and later at 1pm a programme called 'Finders Keepers'.

Similar opt-outs occur several times a week with following programmes sometimes time shifted from the Network transmission. Also the digital output can now sometimes split from the Analogue transmission.

I have spoken to customer services probably 3 or 4 times since having the TIVO back in January, but the problem still exists.

Jon

Ianl
06-28-2001, 12:32 PM
I asume people gave up with this rather than its all fine now?

analog cable GU2

ch34 cartoon network
batman of the future - description is the same for every episode and refers to either the origonal batman and robin or some 1940's film

ch 9 VH1
last nights programs bore no resemblance to tivo listings wrong programs , wrong start and finish times

Rob Nespor Bellis
06-29-2001, 03:50 AM
- Postcode BN2 1AD ( On TiVo as PO1 )
- Service Provider aerial/Sky Digital
- Channel Name BBC1 / Ch5
- Channel Number 101/105 and terrestial equivalents
- Programme Name all
- Time/Date of airing 28th June 2001 evening
- Problem encountered no data at all everything TBA

Not good at all.

Rgds,

R.

AENG
06-29-2001, 05:30 AM
SG 17
ON Digital
BBC Knowledge
Ch 13 from Sandy Heath TX
Timewatch
0940 29 June

Description, I quote:
"Tales from the Oklahoma Land Runs". Documentary chronicling the story of the Eiffel tower's construction...

That would be the Oklahoma E.T, would it, like London Bridge, Arizona?

Brangdon
07-01-2001, 06:05 PM
NG10
OnDigital
C4
4
Equinox
9pm 1st July

Listed as some film (which is actually scheduled for later tonight; I imagine that slot is wrong too). Equinox was correctly listed last week but seems to be missing from all the future schedules I have.

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It's only television.

OzSat
07-06-2001, 09:48 AM
<FONT COLOR="Red">A couple of weeks ago - MUTV advised of schedule changes for 22nd, 24th and 29th July.

The first of these dates are now on TiVo's programme guide but do not have the full schedule changes.

The schedules are correct for the regular 5pm to 11pm broadcast times, but on these dates additional LIVE football is being broadcast by MUTV.

It is the LIVE broadcasts which are missing on the TiVo programme guide.</FONT c>

H
07-07-2001, 07:29 AM
<FONT face="Verdana">Text</FONT f>
KT6
Telewest anaolgue Cable
Channel 4 (14)
6th July
9pm - 9.30pm
The description is too long for the tv guide. The names overflow remain on the guide when you change programme or select another channel. The software should redraw the whole of the box and not just the blank space in it - or the box should be larger ;-)

Telewest analogue cable
Channel 4 (14)
6th July
10.35pm - 11.05pm
Big Brother
The description is not correct - it sounds more like the description for the thursday show.

Telewest analogue cable
BBC2 SE (12)
6th July
11.35pm - 1.10am
The X-Files.
Wrong end time. The guid thinks the programme lasts for an hour and a halfish but the programme is/was actually 45 mins. This meant the next programme in the guide had the wrong start time.

elliotl100
07-09-2001, 06:05 AM
- NW8
- Sky Digital
- Paramount
- 127
- Spin City
- 9.30 /10pm Sunday 8th
- THe listings for Spin City and 3rd Rock were the wrong way round. Spin City was shown in the listings to be on at 10pm - in fact it was aired at 9.30 pm. The reverse was true for 3rd Rock

BrianHughes
07-09-2001, 08:59 AM
BT15 5DZ
NTL Digital Cable
RTE1 and RTE2
Channel numbers 754 and 755
Problem: No guide data.
From 7am last Saturday 7th July, we have had no listings
There are only entries every 2 hours saying:
"RTE1 Television" and "RTE2 Television"

philmck
07-09-2001, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Maclynn:
...TiVo should be aware that the new Pace/Sky box will use their own EPG listings, which are far more accurate, and this alone may tempt away potential, or existing, customers.
Mike.[/B]

Ooh, tell me more. How do you know they're more accurate?


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Phil McKerracher
www.mckerracher.org

Brangdon
07-10-2001, 07:15 PM
NG10
OnDigital
Sky 1 (26)
Seinfeld
12:40am 8th July

Programme was broadcast as a single, hour-long episode. TiVo had it as a half-hour episode followed by a repeat of the same episode. Hence I missed the second half.

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It's only television.

kitschcamp
07-12-2001, 12:47 AM
Channel 464, Digital Classics, on Sky Digital not showing any programs at all. DE74.

Richardr
07-12-2001, 04:27 PM
The whole Copa America is missed off of TIVO's schedules for Sky Sports Extra.


Edited - these are now reflected in TIVO's shedules going forward, which have been corrected.

[This message has been edited by Richardr (edited 07-16-2001).]

Gonker
07-13-2001, 12:44 AM
This thread has been running for months - do we have any evidence that the errors are actually actioned by anyone at Tivo and/or Tribune?

kmusgrave
07-13-2001, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by Gonker:
This thread has been running for months - do we have any evidence that the errors are actually actioned by anyone at Tivo and/or Tribune?

No

Kevin

Brangdon
07-13-2001, 03:49 PM
I think most of us have given up on it. There are far more errors than are reported. I only post errors which are especially blatent or which cause me special pain. It is currently TiVo's biggest single problem, in my view - more serious even than padding.

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It's only television.

OzSat
07-14-2001, 03:18 AM
I could post a few errors every day - although they normally don't bother me.

I think everybody posted originally thinking it would help solve the problems - but as nothing changes it looks as if people have given up.

ArwelP
07-14-2001, 04:30 PM
- Postcode: National problem, but I'm in CW2
- Service Provider: Terrestrial
- Channel Name: BBC1
- Channel Number: 55
- Programme Name: "Commando" (Schwarzenegger movie)
- Time/Date of airing: Tuesday 24th July
- Problem encountered: TiVo is showing this movie as starting at 9.10 p.m. and lasting for 50 minutes (I noticed this as it's on my TiVo Suggestions list). Unfortunately, the main news is at 10 p.m., and the movie resumes at 10.30 for another hour, but you'll miss that if you rely on TiVo to record it automatically. This isn't the first time this problem has happened.

[This message has been edited by ArwelP (edited 07-14-2001).]

cjhcjh
08-05-2001, 04:56 PM
POSTCODE: SW1V
PLATFORM: ITV-DIGITAL
PROBLEMS:
1. E4 on Saturday night - all Jackass shows were out of sync (presume this had something to do with cancelled Brass Eye repeat so probably excusable)

2. BBC 1 FRIDAY AM - LIQUID NEWS. TiVo only caught last 5 minutes of show.


[This message has been edited by cjhcjh (edited 08-05-2001).]

lmhobbs
08-05-2001, 07:13 PM
SO53
Sky Digital
Biography

All episodes come up as Biography. So to find out whose
Biography it is I have to read the description. Please
can the short title have the name of the person/group
being featured.

cjhcjh
08-06-2001, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by lmhobbs:
SO53
Sky Digital
Biography

All episodes come up as Biography. So to find out whose
Biography it is I have to read the description. Please
can the short title have the name of the person/group
being featured.
I suspect the reason it doesn't do as you ask is because this would confuse any Season Passes - I think unfortunately for you there's no way round this (it is a similar issue to the "Auto Racing" for Formula One (whilst somewhat americanized!) it should (if it works which I know it doesn't always) mean that all races get recorded by Season Passes rather than it only recording the next race).

HouseOfHaggis
08-06-2001, 01:00 PM
- Postcode : KY13
- Service Provider : Arial
- Channel Name : BBC2SCO
- Channel Number : 27
- Programme Name : The X-Files
- Time/Date of airing : Friday 3rd August
- Problem encountered : Program was listed as duration 30 minutes when in fact it lasted 50 minutes. Thankyou tribune peoples I got all involved and then missed then end.

PS. Does anyone know how it ends ?
(I got to the bit where Mulder was talking to the bloke in the prison cell) ..

Much apprieciated,
Ross.

Verne
08-06-2001, 01:56 PM
I taped X-Files on Friday because I was recording something else on my Tivo (an "erotic" film on C5 if I remember rightly http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif )

I haven't watched it yet but I'll let you know what happens when I do, unless someone else does in the mean time.

HouseOfHaggis
08-06-2001, 04:05 PM
... assuming it taped ! ...

Ta,
Ross.

HowardP
08-07-2001, 12:25 PM
Tribune has changed the spelling of "Seven Days" to "7 Days" therefore season passes won't record the episode on 14th August on BBC 2.

H
08-09-2001, 03:27 PM
Postcode: KT6 4
Provider: Telewest analogue Cable
Channel: E4, number 55.

Telewest only broadcast E4 coverage from 4pm, not 2pm like on other platforms. Please can my Tivo be made aware of this as I don't like it recording an hour of star trek that is actually an hour of adverts for pathetic Front Row films.

Also: Telewest analogue is stopping Sci-Fi channel (27) from the start of September (boo-hoo).

toeknee
08-09-2001, 04:12 PM
The rubbish that is this tele guide just goes on and on...Just checked the Tivo cos I thought it was taping Tales of the appocalypse (while I posted some moans on this forum!! just desserts I spose) and it stopped recording at 9.50 but the programme is only just finishing at 10:08 so I have missed the end...This could be some of my first posts and also some of my last as I can feel a trip back to Comet!!! hmmmmmmmmmmm

toeknee
08-09-2001, 04:15 PM
The rubbish that is this tele guide just goes on and on...Just checked the Tivo cos I thought it was taping Tales of the appocalypse (while I posted some moans on this forum!! just desserts I spose) and it stopped recording at 9.50 but the programme is only just finishing at 10:08 so I have missed the end...This could be some of my first posts and also some of my last as I can feel a trip back to Comet!!! hmmmmmmmmmmm

AENG
08-18-2001, 07:55 PM
I post this in frustration, rather than the hope that anything will be done about it.

SG17
Aerial
BBC2
C27
The Simpsons
1800 and 1820 Friday 17 August

EPG's description was identical for both episodes, and wrong. Radio Times, published 10 days previously, correctly identified each, so why couldn't Tribune do the same?

Anger over the frankly incompetent EPG is bubbling in several other threads and I must say I agree. If I stopped to report every mistake I came across there wouldn't be enough time left to watch many of the programmes TiVo grabs for me, which would be a pity.

Maclynn
08-19-2001, 05:50 AM
It would be interesting to know if TiVo have a long term contract with Tribune. If not it would surely be in their, and our, interest to find a more accurate provider for the UK listings.
Many of these problems are wildly inaccurate and not simply forgivable errors caused by odd mistakes and changes in schedule.
I suspect, however, that we are stuck with a long term tie in. If so TiVo should reduce payment to Tribune based on the monthly inaccuracies.
Mike.

Ken Jude
08-19-2001, 07:06 AM
However long the contract is with Tribune, it surely must have a termonation clause for non-performance by the supplier, and they are clearly not performing :-(

cjhcjh
08-20-2001, 02:31 AM
Postcode: SW1V
Channel: BBC1
Platform: ITV-DIGITAL

Liquid News on Friday morning (just after midnight). TiVo (for the second week running) only recorded the last 5 minutes or so (ie. 25 mins late)

Paul_J
08-20-2001, 06:40 AM
I have a season pass for the overnight episodes of MASH on Sky Digital Sky 1

Every night the times are wrong with the end of both episodes being cut off. I normally see the end of the fist episode on the begining of the second recording.

Paul

RobScreene
08-21-2001, 02:18 AM
- Postcode : RG6 7ED
- Service Provider : NTL digital
- Channel Name : BBC1
- Channel Number : 101

- Channel Name : Paramount Comedy
- Channel Number : 400

No program data at all seems to be available for the above two channels.

No season passes or suggestions being recorded off these channels. This is quite strange as BBC1, ITV, Sky One, UKgold and all others are fine.

TiVo has now missed two Hearts and Bones episodes, so this is getting serious!

thanks and regards.
Rob Screene.

sammoj
08-21-2001, 12:05 PM
NE23 1NG

Here we go again, added channel 68 C5 in last nights update.

There is NO C5 on channel 68, it is fuzzy and not viewable. I bet it gets removed again tonight.

Seems to do this every couple of weeks, adds a few analogue channels and then removes them the next day.

Anybody got any ideas why? Analogue rarely changes - so Why keep doing this? Doesn't cause any issues as I don't record through analogue but use the ITVDigital box only.

John

Ian_m
08-22-2001, 03:26 AM
Birds of a Feather (the one with Tracy and Sharon) was listed in the Science section !!!

The program type was listed as Science, Documentary and War (I think).

Unless the program has changed radically since the last time I glimpsed it I would suggest description is wrong.

sammoj
08-22-2001, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by sammoj:
NE23 1NG

Here we go again, added channel 68 C5 in last nights update.

There is NO C5 on channel 68, it is fuzzy and not viewable. I bet it gets removed again tonight.

Seems to do this every couple of weeks, adds a few analogue channels and then removes them the next day.

Anybody got any ideas why? Analogue rarely changes - so Why keep doing this? Doesn't cause any issues as I don't record through analogue but use the ITVDigital box only.

John




Yep it did it, removed 68 C5 next day......

AENG
08-25-2001, 11:41 AM
Here we go again. Same fault as last week, exactly!

SG17
Aerial
BBC2
C27
The Simpsons
Friday 24 August 1800 and 1820

Both episodes are given the same, wrong description referring to another episode entirely.

If Tribune are incapable of describing individual episodes uniquely (why should they be for £200/£10 p.m.?) wouldn't it be more honest just to give a generic description of the Simpsons? I'm not advocating this as I've (at last!) reached the stage that I want to choose to see some episodes again and not all of them.

Once again, too, the 10-day old "RT" got them both right.

Alan

AENG
08-28-2001, 06:34 AM
SG17
Aerial
BBC2E
c27
Monday 3 September
"Stanley Kubrick - a Life in Pictures"

I wanted to book a season pass for this three-parter which continues on the following two days. I can't because the guide shows an identical "first part" description for all three epoisodes.

ArwelP
08-30-2001, 06:21 AM
CW2
ITV Digital
Sky One (Channel 26)
1200, 30/08/01
TiVo thinks Sky One is showing an episode of Xena, when it's actually showing "Vip". DigiGuide is correctly showing "Vip". Is this a difference between Sky One on satellite and on digital terrestrial?

Richardr
08-30-2001, 07:23 AM
Yes. Xena is one of two programmes currently showing (the other is at 3:30am each weekday) that Sky do not have terrestrial rights to.

[This message has been edited by Richardr (edited 08-30-2001).]

ArwelP
08-30-2001, 01:02 PM
CW2
S4C (UHF channel 42)
No programme data after 6 a.m. this Saturday, i.e. less that 36 hours data remaining.
There's plenty of non-Welsh speaking people who watch "Sgorio" for its coverage of Italian, Spanish and German football!!

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cjhcjh
09-02-2001, 10:15 AM
ITV-Digital
BBC 1 (Digital) - Channel 1
Postcode SW1V
Liquid News
Thurs 30th August

Once again TiVo got this wrong (3rd time in 4 weeks!).
Recording started 15mins early (which isn't great for a 30min programme).

TiVo - Please sort this out. Once is understandable, twice irritating and three times is sloppy.....

Vikash
09-03-2001, 04:04 AM
Crazy. Truly crazy. I would really like to know what is currently being done about the cursed listings problems.

Vik

Richardr
09-05-2001, 05:13 PM
Sky Digital
Sky One
Postcode AL£
Murder One
From Monday 10th September


Sky One are repeating Murder One in the middle of the night from next Monday. TIVO has it as the first series, but other listings, including Radio Times and TV and Satellite Week, have it as the second series.

Richardr
09-07-2001, 06:52 AM
ntl Digial
Paramount
Postcode AL3


The whole listings for this channel are a day out from this weekend. Saturdays on TIVO are what is due to be broadcast on Sunday, Sunday's are Monday's actual programmes, etc.

Bateman
09-07-2001, 09:58 AM
For the last few weeks Spaced on Paramount has had the same generic description

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Charles Astwood
http://www.astwood.com

Vikash
09-11-2001, 04:15 AM
Postcode: HA7 1ET
Provider: aerial
Channel Name: ITV1, Channel 4 and Channel 5
Date encountered: Ever since I got my TiVo 3 days ago

Press Live TV/Guide button to show the EPG, then nav down to the entry for ITV1 via the aerial (can't remember the RF). Press Select and it correctly shows ITV1 through the aerial, not the STB. However, if you instead select a program to record, the record confirmation screen displays the channel as '3 ITV1' instead of 'C37 ITV1' (again, can't be sure the RF was 37, but you get the idea). I missed a show last night because I had reasonably assumed that choosing to record from the aerial channel would record via the aerial and it instead recorded via my NTL Pace 1000 STB. Except, I haven't set the IR adapter up to switch channels, so it recorded Sky One which I was watching at the time. The problem is that the guide data for via-aerial ITV1, and Ch 4 and Ch 5 also, is the same as the data for the STB channels 3, 4 and 5. The problem is NOT there with BBC1SE and BBC2SE which does permit recording via EITHER aerial or digital cable, so I could happily record a show on the BBC via aerial whilst watching another cable channel via the Aux bypass. This is the only minor disaster I've so-far experienced in my TiVo life, but it's important to me that this is fixed.

mrtickle
09-11-2001, 06:37 AM
This is a known, and very annoying, bug - it always picks the channel number which is lowest (3 vs 37) if the channel names are the same (both "ITV1"). It doesn't happen with the BBC channels because they have different names.

Vikash
09-11-2001, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by mrtickle:
This is a known, and very annoying, bug - it always picks the channel number which is lowest (3 vs 37) if the channel names are the same (both "ITV1"). It doesn't happen with the BBC channels because they have different names.

What would happen if I untick 3, 4 and 5 in my available channels list?

Paj
09-11-2001, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Vikash:
What would happen if I untick 3, 4 and 5 in my available channels list?

You won't be able to record from the digital versions of these channels.

For me, this is annoying because the reception on my aerial channels is rather poor. There are times when I want to record from the digital source (when I am out), and times when I want to record from the terrestrial channel (when I am watching another Sky channel). I would like to be able to specify which source it should use for recording.




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Paj sits down and sings about gold.

Vikash
09-11-2001, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by Paj:
You won't be able to record from the digital versions of these channels.

For me, this is annoying because the reception on my aerial channels is rather poor. There are times when I want to record from the digital source (when I am out), and times when I want to record from the terrestrial channel (when I am watching another Sky channel). I would like to be able to specify which source it should use for recording.


Of course. The same is true for me. My aerial channels are watchable but not great. However I'd rather have TiVo use my aerial channels than record the wrong channel on cable, at least until I get an IR adapter. If I'm really desperate to record through cable, I can always re-enable those channels and make sure I manually change cable channel. Anyway the question is - will it allow me to set recordings to use the aerial if I take this step? Guess I'll just have to try it out.

badsector
09-12-2001, 05:37 PM
Postcode: BS8
Type: terrestrial
Channel: C4
Program: Location, Location, Location

New series at 8.30PM Wednesday.
Completely missing from the program guide.

Luckily I have a Radio Times and used my video recorder to record it.

--Gary

mrtickle
09-13-2001, 12:31 AM
postcode: B29
type: Sky Digital
channel: Extreme Sports
programme: Hot Water

... is ALWAYS classed as a "comedy". Every single time it's on.

AENG
09-15-2001, 08:24 PM
SG17
ITV Digital
Channel 5
Friday 14 September 1535

EPG billed the film as "The World According to Garp". TiVo elected to record what was shown in that slot (and billed in the 10-day old RT), "Lady Ice". Not the same thing at all.

EPG seems to have thrown in the towel on "The Simpsons" BTW, and now only gives a generic description of the series. Not a lot of help when only some episodes, previously missed, are of interest.

ALanJay
09-16-2001, 05:22 AM
sky digital
paramount
friday and weekend schedues wrong.

freude
09-18-2001, 03:01 PM
- HP21 8FU
- Sky Digital
- Paramount
- 127
- Frasier
- Every Saturday @ 21oo hours
- This is not the advertised two programs of Frasier. It's usually a Paramount film. This happens EVERY week.

Richardr
09-18-2001, 04:21 PM
The reason for the Paramount error is that for at least the last few weeks they have been a day out on the listings. This isn't inportant for Monday through Thursday (except for episode descriptions), but pushes Friday through Sunday out.

Norm
09-19-2001, 03:08 AM
NW11 7XN
Sky Digital
Sky MovieMax
308
Movie
10.00pm
Programme description given as "Lost Voyage". This is actually the movie title and should be shown as Programme Name. Accordingly, it cannot be found by Searching by Name.

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Regards

Norman

[This message has been edited by Norm (edited 09-19-2001).]

Automan
09-21-2001, 04:16 PM
- BN25
- Sky Digital
- Sky One 106
- StarGate-SG1 - Every Weekday @ 06:00 & 18:00
- Same generic description for EVERY SINGLE epsiode (Sky EPG Correct)

- BN25
- Sky Digital
- BBC2 102
- Not The Nine O'Clock News 22:00 - Friday's incl 21/09/01
- It's not being shown! (Sky EPG Data Correct)

Automan.

weeble
09-23-2001, 07:14 AM
LS12
NTL Digital (ex C&W)
1 BBC1 HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM MY CHANNEL LINE UP!!!!!!!!
(disappeared after call at 3am(ish) 23/9)

pr1uk
09-23-2001, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Norm:

NW11 7XN
Sky Digital
Sky MovieMax
308
Movie
10.00pm
Programme description given as "Lost Voyage". This is actually the movie title and should be shown as Programme Name. Accordingly, it cannot be found by Searching by Name.
........................
this was a late change of program not in my TV times even so i was impressed that my TiVo was so up to date myself.
and Lost Voyage was not a bad film either.


Peter

OzSat
09-23-2001, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by weeble:
LS12
NTL Digital (ex C&W)
1 BBC1 HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM MY CHANNEL LINE UP!!!!!!!!
(disappeared after call at 3am(ish) 23/9)

Have you checked you messages and customized channel list - it may be that they have removed the national version to inster the correct regional version

badsector
09-23-2001, 11:55 AM
E4: ***BAR*** Wars not Bra(!) Wars

The description for the "bra wars" program even made sense, something like " a small Scottish bra manufacturer ..etc..".

Its correct on C4 but not on E4.

Perhaps Tribune are confusing channel 4 with channel 5 ;-).

weeble
09-23-2001, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by ozsat:
Have you checked you messages and customized channel list - it may be that they have removed the national version to inster the correct regional version

There was a message telling me that several terrestrial channels had been added, and that channel 1 had been dropped. However, BBC1 digital has not been 'replaced' just removed and I no longer have channel 1 on my listings or in the channels I can watch (which has obvously left my season passes a bit confused!).

I have forced several daily calls today in the hope that it will be fixed - the last one has actually loaded some data and is 'doing its thing' so hopefully this will put things to rights again. (update will follow)

Tivo has done some strange channel adding and deleting in the past, but this is usually terrestrial only - this is the first time that it's actually wiped out a digital channel that I use.

weeble
09-23-2001, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by weeble:
There was a message telling me that several terrestrial channels had been added, and that channel 1 had been dropped. However, BBC1 digital has not been 'replaced' just removed and I no longer have channel 1 on my listings or in the channels I can watch (which has obvously left my season passes a bit confused!).

I have forced several daily calls today in the hope that it will be fixed - the last one has actually loaded some data and is 'doing its thing' so hopefully this will put things to rights again. (update will follow)

Tivo has done some strange channel adding and deleting in the past, but this is usually terrestrial only - this is the first time that it's actually wiped out a digital channel that I use.

Update - Tivo has now removed the terrestrial channels it added last night - BUT STILL NO BBC1 (channel 1)!!!!! http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif

AENG
09-23-2001, 02:14 PM
SG17
Aerial
BBC2 Ch27
Thursday 27 Sep 2100
Horizon

The EPG now seems to have given up describing individual progammes altogether (as with the Simpsons) and is just showing a generic series title. This is NOT ACCEPTABLE! Even the cheapest printed programme sheets don't sell us this short.

I've given up paying attention to the "TiVo has detected a change in your lineup" messages. Not one has had any relevance to me in the nine months I've been a TiVo-ite and most of them get reversed the next day anyway.

Doesn't any one care about or check up on this lack of quality control? As I've said before, someone should get a grip, and soon, please.

Paj
09-23-2001, 03:22 PM
Paramount Comedy Channel listings now seem to be correct!


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Paj sits down and sings about gold.

lmhobbs
09-23-2001, 04:51 PM
SO53 1LD
Sky Digital
ITV Meridian
Judge Judy
the late night version around 0430
frequent occurnece
The programme is not shown, instead its a football programme

AENG
09-25-2001, 06:00 PM
SG17
ITV Digital
BBC Knowledge Ch 13
Tuesday 25 September 1830
EPG billing is "Time Watch". Wrong!

What was actually shown was as given in RT: "House Detectives"

wimbledonpaul
10-02-2001, 10:35 AM
SW20 8RX
- Sky Digital
- BBC1
- 101
- Absolutely Fabulous
- 9:00PM 28/9
- Program Synopsis missing.
Generic program synopsis displayed for this program.
Just states 'Award-winning sitcom set in thr world of fashion and PR. (stero)'

rllb
10-02-2001, 01:02 PM
CB6 3
- ITV Digital
- FilmFour
- CH 41
- Play it Again, Sam
- 6 PM 02/10

- Listings show the wrong film.
Instead of Play it Again, Sam as in the listing FilmFour is showing HairSpray, hmmm, not really what I was expecting to see.

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Dazza
10-06-2001, 01:12 PM
CV23
Aerial
40 BBC2M
Blade
10-11:50pm 06-10-2001
Have you seen the description for this? It's description for Twelve Monkeys, but with the cast list for Blade!?!

Vikash
10-08-2001, 03:04 AM
Often find the EPG provides NO program info for certain channels more than a few days ahead. Such as C4, which appears to be crammed full of 1-hour shows all day, all called "Channel 4 Television". NOT GOOD ENOUGH, TRIBUNE! I'm talking about less than 1 week ahead, all the shows are published in other guides. Are Tribune just being lazy?

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<FONT size="1">40hr Thomson (UK)</FONT s>

OzSat
10-08-2001, 03:05 AM
Channel 4 and ITV often get down to less than one week of data - but seems to get updated on a Sunday afternoon!

AENG
10-08-2001, 08:55 AM
SG17
Aerial
Channel 4
Ch 21
Equinox
0400 & 0450 Tuesday 9 October

EPG describes both episodes as "A Biography of Nobel Prize-winner Murray Gell-Mann".

RT gives "Einstein's Biggest Blunder" and "Meningitis: The Search for a Cure" respectively. I suspect that RT will prove correct.

Rob Nespor Bellis
10-08-2001, 09:42 AM
BN2
Sky
Channel 4
Ch 104
13/10 12:15am onwards
Hollyoaks: Moving On

The above episodes ( on Saturdays ) are the Omnibus edition. However they are not flagged as such, so you cannot set a season pass just for the Omnibus as it records all episodes.

[This message has been edited by RobBellis (edited 10-08-2001).]

AENG
10-10-2001, 05:26 AM
SG17
Aerial
Channel 4
Ch 21
Equinox
Tuesday 9 October 0400 & 0450

Since my previous note on this, the EPG description of both episodes (now recorded) has been changed. It now wrongly gives both the description really applicable to:

Equinox
Wednesday 10 October 0450: GM Crops.

It also gives the same, wrong description to:

Equinox
Wednesday 10 October 0400. This is really the Murray Gell-Man one.

There really is no excuse for all this confusion. As (seemingly) always, RT (and therefore presumably Channel 4)gets it right. What's so special about Tribune?

AENG
10-12-2001, 08:12 PM
SG17
Aerial
Channel 4
Ch 21
Battle of the Robots: the Hunt for AI
Saturday 13 October 8.00 p.m.

The programme description is OK but the classification is "Game Show"! It's really an episode of Equinox. What's that going to do to my TiVo suggestions?

Beancounter
10-13-2001, 04:42 AM
AB51

SkyDigital
Channel 127- Paramount.

Late night repeat of Seinfeld is still listed as Taxi.


Also, anyone else noticed that on channels that are off air have the description "Sign Off" and then a blurb about BBC Choice, this happens on all the channels as far as I can see.

Automan
10-13-2001, 06:06 AM
Discovery Channel starts on the ITV Digital platform on October 17th - Is Tribune ready?

Automan.

AENG
10-14-2001, 03:22 AM
This is a bit after the event but I've only just now viewed the recording.

SG17
Aerial
BBC2
Ch 27
Horizon
Thursday 11 October 9.00 p.m.

EPG entitled the episode "Hypernova". The programme was as correctly described in RT: "Life Blood".

OzSat
10-14-2001, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by Automan:
Discovery Channel starts on the ITV Digital platform on October 17th - Is Tribune ready?
Automan.

This should be in the channel line-up issues thread - they have been told - but that doesn't answer you question.

ArwelP
10-15-2001, 02:41 PM
CW2
ITV Digital
ITV2 (Channel 6)
TiVo's schedule for ITV2 is horribly inaccurate, at least for Sundays which is the only day I watch it! :-(

Example from yesterday, early afternoon:
TiVo reckons:
1115: Who Wants to be a Millionaire?
1315: Young Hercules
1345: CD:UK
1445: Rich and Famous
1515: Felicity

Actual:
1115: WWTBAM?
1330: Young Hercules
1400: Young Hercules
1430: Chart Choice
1445: CD:UK
1545: Felicity

I've noticed this isn't the first Sunday they've been wildly inaccurate, either...

pauljs
10-15-2001, 02:48 PM
KT15
ITV Digital
ITV
Ch 3
House of Horrors
15 October 8.30 p.m.

Can't set a season pass for this prog as it's listed as "Specials"

Now onto the 3rd part of the series

Ianl
10-16-2001, 05:51 AM
analog cable
GU2
Living
Charmed
every episode has the same generic program description with very occasionaly a small episode description tacked on the end in the bit you cant read. This is especially annoying as they are showing episodes from all 3 series at the moment

daveburrows
10-17-2001, 03:46 PM
- Postcode: SO19
- Service Provider: Sky Digital
- Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
- Channel Number: 127
- Programme Name: King of Queens
- Time/Date of airing: Every day 11:00am
- Problem Encountered:

This is not King of Queens, the programme that is shown at this time is Ellen. King of Queens is no longer showing on Paramount.

TimWright
10-17-2001, 05:14 PM
Hmph. Tivo listing the "Taste" channel tonight as "Spice Kitchen" at 10:30 and something else indian at 11:00.

Digiguide states (correctly) that these should actually be "Chef for a day" and "Cheesy Rider".

Girlfriend, who is currently trying to learn to cook indian food, somewhat unimpressed with Tivo. :/

Postcode SM4 5XX. Date 17/10/01, Times 22:30 - 23:00 and 23:00 - 23:30.

manolan
10-18-2001, 11:37 AM
- Postcode: SW6
- Service Provider: ITV Digital
- Channel Name: E4
- Channel Number: 42
- Programme Name: West Wing
- Time/Date of airing: Tues 9pm, Sun 9pm (?)
- Problem Encountered:
Ever since they postponed an episode after 11 Sep, the descriptions have been wrong (one out). Was OK on the second showing on Tuesday (around midnight) this week. Radio Times has been right all along, so this can't be a problem with the information from E4.

AENG
10-20-2001, 04:37 AM
SG17
Aerial
BBC2
Ch 27
The Simpsons
Friday 19 Oct 6.00 p.m.

EPG had the wrong episode description (again). RT had it correctly as "The Curse of the Flying Hellfish".

Richardr
10-24-2001, 07:49 AM
AL3
ntl digital (ex-ntl)
BBC Choice
Radio One Night
Sunday 27th Oct 00:30am (i.e. Saturday night).

At 00:30 on BBC Choice there is a one hour programme "Radio 1: Turn It Up Loud" Tivo has it at half an hour, followed by the famous 'Sign Off'. Tivo then has the next programme correctly at 1:30am.

mrtickle
10-24-2001, 12:38 PM
B29
aerial+Sky Digital
E4
205
Brass Eye
27th Oct 23:15

Two problems:
a) The programme is in the "News" category. I nearly fell off my chair when I was browsing "News and Business" and found BrassEye!
b) The programme isn't in the "Comedy" category.

gary cheshire
10-25-2001, 10:50 AM
GU24
NTL DIGITAL (ex cabletel)
ITV CALTON (103)
Pulling Power
wed 17/10 & 24/10 10:40pm until 11:10pm

Problem - TIVO rec/lists as 10:35pm until 11:05pm times should be as above (5mins later)

Paj
10-28-2001, 11:59 AM
- HD9
- Sky Digital
- Discovert Health
- Doctor in the house
- Monday 6.30 am (and other times)

This is categorised as "Comedy, Situation", clearly getting muddled up with the hilarious sitcom of the same name.

It does, in fact, feature a real doctor (presumably in a real house) and should be recategorised "Health, Boring"



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Paj sits down and sings about gold.

GJB
10-29-2001, 02:40 AM
Postcode Kt11
Provider Sky Digital
Channel 603 Boomerang
Program Thunderbirds
Time 20:00
Frequency Daily
Listed as Top Cat or some such thing.

[This message has been edited by GJB (edited 10-29-2001).]

Mark Burley
10-29-2001, 07:17 AM
OX26
ITV Digital
ITV2
Channel 6

ITV2 changed "At home with the Braithwaites" from 20.30 on Friday to 20.00 on Friday, TiVo correctly listed this change.

Why then did my season pass not change? Season pass recorded at 20.30 two weeks running - not impressed!!

Re-saved season pass - now takes note of listings.

Why is TiVo not taking notice of program listings?

dallardice
10-31-2001, 03:52 AM
N1
Sky Digital
Ch 965 BBC2WAL
From Monday 5 November

TiVo is not consistently carrying listings for the analogue variant of BBC2 Wales and not the new digital channel "2W". Some listings for later in the week (Wed 7 and Thu 8) are accurate but those for Mon 5, Tue 6 and Fri 9 are not.

gadget
11-02-2001, 02:28 AM
BD1
Telewest digital cable
ITV2
From November 1

Late inclusion of Pop Idol Extra has caused wholesale changes to ITV2's schedule, displacing Late Show With David Letterman and some other programmes by up to *three hours*. TiVo hasn't yet registered any of these changes, although Telewest's single-day EPG has. TiVo recordings on ITV2 are thus impossible at the moment unless done manually.

AdamC
11-04-2001, 03:11 PM
DA3 8HT
Terrestrial
ITV1
C23
House of Horrors
2030 every Friday
It's still not possible to set a season pass on this program, as reported by "pauljs" last month. Does anyone from Tivo actually read this thread?

Channel4
C30
Shipwrecked
1800 weekdays and 1100 weekends
The program descriptions for most episodes of this program seem to be in the wrong order.

Adam

Legolam
11-11-2001, 07:07 AM
DE6
Terrestrial
Channel 4
C50
Scrapheap Challenge
18:00

Replaced by "Friends"

mrtickle
11-11-2001, 01:06 PM
Same mistake with the Sky Digital Channel 4, too (B29).

Extremely annoying, but by coincidence the TiVo was left on C4 after Stargate so I've used the live TV buffer to get back to the start of Scrapheap Challenge. Spotted it just before 18:30 in the nick of time.

ArwelP
11-12-2001, 11:52 AM
CW2
ITV Digital
Discovery Channel (ch. 36)

Discovery Mastermind is scheduled for 30 minutes from 2000-2030 tonight (and all weeknights). TiVo thinks it's on for 90 minutes until 2130 tonight, though it correctly has 30 minute slots for the rest of the week.

mrtickle
11-12-2001, 06:05 PM
Sky Digital, B29

"Mr Charity" (BBC2 Mon 10pm) - listed in category International, should be Comedy.

Ditto "Dr Terrible's House of Horrible". (BBC2 Mon 9.30pm)
"The Kumars at No. 42" (BBC2 Mon 9pm) is also wrongly listed as International. Is every single non-American programme now going to be "International"? http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif

OzSat
11-13-2001, 10:58 AM
Too late for TiVo - and most other listings:

Brazil’s vital clash with Venezuela which sees the four-times winners needing a win to avoid a potential play-off against Australia for the right to figure in next year's World Cup finals, is to be shown live on ITV Sport Channel.

Live coverage starts at 11.30pm (Kick off 11.40pm) on Wednesday 14th November with the game being replayed on the channel on Thursday afternoon.

The programme will also feature highlights of Uruguay v Argentina, plus goals from other games as they happen.

Brazil who have never failed to qualify for a World Cup Finals in the competitions history, lie fourth in the South American Group after their last tie saw them suffer a 3-1 defeat to Bolivia in La Paz.

deshepherd
11-13-2001, 11:41 AM
Since "Mr Charity" is the subject of the "we watched so that you don't have to" column of this weeks Radio Times and receives a pretty severe thumbs down then perhaps Tribune are using some value judgment in not categorising it as "comedy" :-)

Richardr
11-13-2001, 01:35 PM
Re Brasil vs Venezuela - I do have this in the TIVO listings (last call was yesterday afternoon), plus it was in the weekly magazines, at least in my copy of TV & Satellite Week, so it has been known about for two weeks.

Richardr
11-14-2001, 09:33 AM
A couple of things not reflected in the TIVO schedules:

Firstly Eurosport has a world cup qualifier tonight, Romania vs.Slovenia, at 5pm. As with many Eurosport late changes, this may only be confirmed when the programme starts!

Secondly TIVO appears to have Sky One wrong this evening.

The schedule excludes Rum, which is at 11pm (it has the 10:30 programme, Kirsty's Home Videos, on for an hour mistakenly). The Sky One schedule incorporates only partially some relatively late changes.

childe
11-22-2001, 03:36 AM
I'm no frequently finding the programme duration to be inaccurate

ie (not exhaustive)
Band of Brothers on BBC1/2 varies 50-60 minutes
West Wing on E4, 50-60 minutes
Oz on E4, 50-90 minutes

In the first 2 cases the same episode often has a different duration when repeated in a different time slot.

Any one else getting this?

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Eric

dallardice
11-22-2001, 04:04 AM
Varying durations are not always bad EPG data.

E4 used to show the later repeat of the Sopranos without ads, trimming 5-10 minutes off the running time. In other cases it's the broadcaster who rounds the actual running time differently to suit the slot - West Wing actually runs well under an hour because we show fewer ads than in the US, but it suits E4 scheduling to show it for an hour and pad with more trailers in the 9-10pm slot, whereas later in the evening the "significance" of an hour-long slot is less, so it can be more honest and list it as 50 or 55 minutes. The downside, of course, is that if they round down, you can lose the start or end because they run a 52-minute programme in a 50-minute slot.

Richardr
11-22-2001, 05:00 AM
Broadcasters are also allowed to transfer adverts away from off peak times into on peak times, and this often means that the shows will run up to 10 minutes longer at peak time)

childe
11-22-2001, 08:01 AM
Dallardice and RichardR - Thanks

Probably correct re programmes on commercial channels, but BBC1? Why would Band of Brothers vary 10 minutes? Presumably there are more trailers shown in peak time and the actual programme length is less than one hour, but I can't explain a 10 minute spread

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Eric

mrtickle
11-22-2001, 05:05 PM
B29
Sky Digital
103 (ITV1 Central)
Friday 23rd November

Correct schedule should be:
19:30 Coronation Street
20:00 Rich and Famous
20:30 The Bill
21:30 Mike Baldwin and Me
22:30 Tarrant on TV
23:00 ITV Weekend News

TiVo's schedule is:
19:30 Coronation Street
20:00 Rich and Famous
20:30 House of Horrors
21:00 The Bill
22:00 Mike Baldwin and Me
23:00 ITV Weekend News

Sunday 25th November

The 19:30 episode of Coronation Street has exactly the same synopis as the Friday 23rd episode. Season passes will miss this episode and so manual intervention is needed.

racingclub
11-28-2001, 07:40 AM
Season Pass recorded 'Kumars at No.42' on BBC Choice last night at 22.30 - what it actually recorded was 'Dr Terrible's House of Horrible'

ITV Digital - Cardiff - CF14

looking at ToDo list it seems that it thinks its on every Tuesday Night (as well as correctly every Thurs night).

Richardr
11-28-2001, 11:38 AM
Last night there were late changes to the BBC Choice schedule. No idea why, but it was after the listings magazines.

Dr Terrible's House of Horrible was moved forward an hour, replaced by Goodness Gracious Me, and Kumars at 42 wasn't on. This is a change from last week.

Next week's schedule changes again, and as far as I know, subject to late BBC changes is correct on TIVO, with all three of the above programmes showing on Tuesday. (GGM at 9, Dr Terrible at 9:30 and Kumars at 11pm).

Richardr
11-29-2001, 06:13 AM
Kumars at No 42 has been dropped as well tonight - to be replaced by an old Goodness Gracious Me.

I can only assume that there is a problem with this week's episode that has made the BBC drop both repeats at late notice.

sjp
11-29-2001, 06:47 AM
if it's the same as BBC2 had on Monday night (3rd show in the run) it seemed to be OK, i.e. nothing too risque / worth pulling it for.

stuart

kmusgrave
11-29-2001, 06:49 AM
Perhaps they found it would run within the scheduled time and so they replaced it with a programme which wouldn't http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

Kevin

Rob Nespor Bellis
11-29-2001, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by kmusgrave:
Perhaps they found it would run within the scheduled time and so they replaced it with a programme which wouldn't http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

Kevin

No, that's not it. TiVo missed the end when it was on BBC1 http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif

Rgds,

R.

OzSat
12-04-2001, 01:46 PM
After some recent good weeks for advance BBC and ITV schedules - C4 is now a problem with only 4 days left http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif

mrtickle
12-04-2001, 02:38 PM
Indeed http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif At this time of year the schedules are pretty much set in stone a long time in advance. I'd quite like to set up my recordings before I leave for xmas...

mrtickle
12-06-2001, 01:58 PM
B29
Sky Digital
Sky One
Stargate SG-1

Sky are showing this series weekly on Weds at 8pm. They are also showing repeats daily 6am&6pm, but the listings have become mixed up http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif

The listing for Wed 12th Dec at 8pm is a mistake, it is a duplicate of the 6am&6pm repeats, episode "Threshold", but it should be for the new episode "Fail Safe".

The listing for Wed 19th Dec has the episode title missing and is a duplicate of the episode description for yesterday's 8pm episode, which can't be right either.

AENG
12-08-2001, 04:11 AM
SG17
Aerial
Ch27 BBC2
Friday 7 December 1930 hrs
Science Shack
The description in the EPG is that of the previous week's programme, not the Millenium Bridge episode actually broadcast (and correctly described in RT)

Automan
12-09-2001, 07:13 AM
- Postcode - BN25
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - Channel Health
- Channel Number - 193
- Programme Name - Ben Casey
- Time/Date of airing - Every Day Of The Week x 2 or more
- Problem encountered

Ben Casey is on every day and it seems no episode has any description and even list the wrong cast members - Sam Jaffe no longer in it.

They show them in an odd order and thus description etc would help. Sky Digital have no episodic info in their guide either.

P.S.
Ben Casey had the highest USA ratings when aired back in the early 1960's
http://www.celebhost.net/vinceedwards/page5.html

Automan.

gary cheshire
12-11-2001, 04:39 AM
- Postcode - GU24
- Service Provider - NTL DIGITAL
- Channel Name - SCIFI
- Channel Number - 402
- Programme Name - Now & Again
- Time/Date of airing -

Wednesday 12/12/01 21:00
Wednesday 19/12/01 00:40 & 21:00

- Problem encountered

Recent programme change from sunday's to wednesday's (TIVO guide not correct as of 10/12/01)

Beancounter
12-11-2001, 09:08 AM
- Postcode - AB51
- Service Provider - Sky DIGITAL
- Channel Name - BBC1 Scotland
- Channel Number - 101
- Programme Name - Casualty
- Time/Date of airing - 8.05pm 26/12/01

Programme is listed as CAUALTY so obviously, the season pass doesn't recognise this error.

EDIT- wrong date in original post!!

[This message has been edited by Beancounter (edited 12-11-2001).]

mrtickle
12-11-2001, 12:30 PM
Not an error in the listings, but at this time of year be vigilant for programme names which try to be "clever" and "seasonal" - eg Snow Graham Norton doesn't get picked up if you have a Season Pass for So Graham Norton.

gary cheshire
12-12-2001, 03:44 AM
Hi,

Out of interest has anyone had any programme guide data corrected following posting.

Should we be phoning CS with these errors as well?

Gary

AENG
12-12-2001, 06:21 AM
In reply to Gary, the answer is "no". But I have noticed an example of one error having been replaced by a different one.

mrtickle
12-12-2001, 06:48 AM
In my experience the data is very rarely corrected whether you post here, or write to them, or phone them. Nomatter how much we try to spoon-feed Tribune, they don't seem to want to know.

The only reason I still post mistakes here is to warn fellow users of this forum.

TribJim
12-12-2001, 08:09 AM
I guess I'd better start speaking up since few of you think we actually read this forum. Hello, my name is Jim from Tribune (yes, that Tribune.) I'd just like to say that we do read this forum each and every day (many times a day actually!) I know you feel your feedback goes un-noticed but all of the errors that you point out are researched and corrected if need be (case in point: the "Casualty" error from yesterday.) Please keep them coming. We will do our best to give you the most up to date listings possible. Please remember that the UK listings market is still somewhat new to us but we will do our best to satisfy all TiVo users.

Many thanks,
Jim

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Jim V.

dallardice
12-12-2001, 09:10 AM
Jim, can I jump in first and say it's great to know that Tribune do monitor these forums, and take action based on what you see. It must be very frustrating for you trying to understand UK listings problems, since a lot of things that would be straightforward if you lived here (like seeing articles in the newspaper about new channels launching) just won't reach you on the other side of the pond.

So, good to have you here, we know (or most of us do) that you are trying to do your best, just understand that it's very frustrating for us when a much-lauded new channel launches and TiVo doesn't have listings...

Perhaps you can tell us a bit about your information sources, and how the process works? If we understand better how you do your job, it'll help us understand better why things we expect to happen ain't happening...

[This message has been edited by dallardice (edited 12-12-2001).]

TribJim
12-12-2001, 09:21 AM
Thanks for the kind welcome. I'm not afraid of getting lynched as long as the comments are valid. The UK market is not really new to myself (I try to read all the trade papers) but my editorial staff has a large learning curve. We will do our best get the correct listings to users as soon as we receive them. Believe me, I too am frustrated when users are missing channel data (my biggest pet peeve.)

Also, believe it or not, TiVo CS does indeed contact us with your queries so keep ringing them when problems arise.

As for missing the ends of programmes...we all know who is to blame for that!

Cheers,
Jim

gary cheshire
12-12-2001, 10:28 AM
Hi Jim,

Ok, as I asked the question.

Could you confirm that the scifi (ch402) "now and again" listing for sundays/wednesday has been revised with farscape on sundays 8pm and now and again 9pm wednesday's as per my original post.

Also would you be able to tell whether the change took place because of my posting it here yesterday or following my phone call to CS this morning.

Just out of interest, please don't take it as a complaint in anyway.

Thanks

Gary

AENG
12-12-2001, 10:57 AM
Thanks for those postings, TribJim. We've sometimes felt that we were addressing thin air here. It's most encouraging to hear that efforts are being made to improve the product but I, for one, don't envy you the task!

We'll keep posting anything that might be useful and try not to let emotion cloud our judgement too much.

TribJim
12-12-2001, 11:26 AM
Gary,

We are still researching your query from the other day (CS has yet to pass it on to us, but I forwarded your original post to the editor that handles SCI-FI Tuesday morning.) Unfortunately it sometimes takes a few days to hear back from the listing folks at the channels. I will follow up today with some of my contacts and I will let you know as soon as the problem is sorted out on our end.

Thanks for your original post, we probably would not have questioned this without your input.

Many thanks,
Jim

gary cheshire
12-12-2001, 12:38 PM
Jim,

Thankyou very much for getting back to me. I look forward to hearing from you in the near future.

I must agree its very unusual for their to a programme change on scifi.

cheers

Gary

mrtickle
12-12-2001, 12:39 PM
Wow. Great to have your posts Jim! Obviously I was wrong, Tribune do want to know http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

However, too often errors go uncorrected. The Stargate errors I reported 6 days ago (further up) weren't corrected; the BBC showings of the American version of the Weakest Link, which gets called "The Weakest Link USA" over here is still wrong in the TiVo listings, Formula 1 is still wrongly called "Auto Racing", etc. Because the errors don't seem to be corrected, we think you don't care, so we report them less, and the current situation is the result.

Are you aware of digiguide (www.digiguide.com) both as an application to check your listings against, and an alternative source of experience? I'm sure your learning curve would be a lot simpler if you could work with those guys.

Finally is there anyone that you can kick to get us our Channel 4 listings earlier?

Hope you'll hang around http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


[This message has been edited by mrtickle (edited 12-12-2001).]

TribJim
12-12-2001, 02:21 PM
Mr Tickle,

Thanks for your response (and posts, I do read them all.) We will be working to correct all errors reported here. The problem is it does take time. I hope to contribute now and again but I will mostly be lurking around. Don't get discouraged if I don't reply to specific posts, all will be looked into.

As for the specifics of your message. I will check into them personally. Correcting Stargate and The Weakest Link are not major undertakings. The Formula 1 vs. Auto Racing is a bit of problem however. We list Formula One (and all other areas of the sport) as Auto Racing in our database with a specific episodes for each event. This obviously does little for users trying to set a season's pass for ITV F-1 coverage. We will have to take another look at this issue.

Thanks for the kind words. I'll post now and again but hopefully you will see the results on your TiVo boxes, not this forum (which is all we TiVo users want, right?)

Cheers,
Jim

[This message has been edited by TribJim (edited 12-12-2001).]

Automan
12-12-2001, 02:29 PM
Jim,
Please don't forget Ben Casey http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

Automan.

GarySargent
12-12-2001, 02:30 PM
Jim thanks for posting - I've started ignoring this thread a bit because it always seemed too much one way moaning http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

With regard to the Formula1 / Autoracing problem - you can probably get away with just changing the title now. The season finished months ago and is not due to restart for a few months so you won't suddenly surprise anyone.

Shame its so hard to change titles once set - I wonder if V2.5.5 of the TiVo software has upgraded database commands to let you do that?...


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Find out everything TiVo: http://www.tivoportal.co.uk
Have your say and vote for the features you want on your UK TiVo: http://www.tivosuggestions.co.uk
Got a bug? http://www.tivobugs.co.uk

Olly
12-12-2001, 05:18 PM
Jim, Gary is absolutely right. Now is the time to fix the F1/Auto Racing problem. Give the Sunday race and Saturday qualifying sessions different names so we can set up separate season passes for them as required when the time comes.

Modan
12-12-2001, 05:56 PM
it is a similar issue to the "Auto Racing" for Formula One (whilst somewhat americanized!) it should (if it works which I know it doesn't always) mean that all races get recorded by Season Passes rather than it only recording the next race).

All races in cars that is, not just Formula One. Surely F1 should have at least 3 programs F1-Qualifying, F1-Race & F1-Highlights. Here's hoping this is sorted before next season. More importantly from my perspective is to get Eurosports Auto Racing problem sorted, as I only watch CART, and it really pisses me off that I can't have a season pass for it without getting about 20 hrs a week of assorted motor racing.

Modan
12-12-2001, 06:10 PM
OK, I've done the F1 complaint, so here goes for Football (No, not Soccer http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif )
Why can't we get a better description for English football than just "Football". We get Scottish Football, Spanish Football and German Football, so why not FA Cup Football, Premiership Football, etc.

Modan
12-12-2001, 06:16 PM
Every week there are about 5 showings of "Inside Scottish Football", none of which have a program description. Am I correct that this is why TiVo records all 5 of them (5 hours being quite a lot when I record at Best and haven't upgraded my capacity yet). If putting in a program description would get rid of this problem then couldn't we at least get a generic description like "Program for week beginning xx/xx". It wouldn't hurt to have that anyway, so that when I get back from my christmas break I don't need to actually watch the beginnings of 20 showings to find the 4 programs that were actually aired.

Modan
12-12-2001, 06:37 PM
Since I've started, I'm sure that many other sports suffer from similar problems to F1 & Football. I think golf is another, and Pool certainly is (no difference between 8-ball and 9-ball).

Why is sport so badly categorised? I'm pretty sure that Eastenders gets it's own name in the title, rather than Soap. Perhaps I've got it wrong though. Maybe there is too much info at the moment. Perhaps we could rationalise down to Soap, Drama, Documentary, Sport, Game Show, News. Even better, just list everything as program!

Sorry for the negative nature of this post. I really do appreciate your being here Jim, but many of the problems being encountered shouldn't really need a forum to get right. I accept you will get caught out by schedule changes at least sometimes. Surely it is better to concentrate on fixing the things that once fixed are fixed forever, before correcting more transient (big word for the day) errors.

Marshy
12-12-2001, 06:45 PM
While we're on the subject of motor sports (sorry to bang on about it), can we try to see some improved titling of things like British Superbikes, World Superbikes and so on?

This year was very hard to keep up with, some coverage being "Motorcycle Racing" (mainly BBC) some being "British Superbikes" (Eurosport). Obviously this made season passes very hard to get right.

Thanks, and nice to know you guys are watching http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

mrtickle
12-13-2001, 03:05 AM
Good stuff! I'm sure Jim was getting bored with so little to do http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

I was agreeing with Modan, have 3 programme titles along the lines of "F1 Grand Prix Qualifying", "F1 Grand Prix", "F1 Grand Prix Highlights". They should be in a category called "Motor Racing" or "Motor Sports". The term "Auto Racing" is heavily US-centric and simply is not used in the UK.

But then I've thought, a F1 fan who wanted to set a Season Pass for F1 would probably want all the qualifying sessions and races recorded, and the highlights too (since often they run out of time in the main broadcast and some things are only ever shown in the highlights programme). So, there is also a case for calling it a single programme "Formula One" or "F1 Grand Prix". This would simplfy things to a single season pass.

In any event, the synopsis of the Saturday programme should say that it's coverage of the qualifying session (not "practice") from the xxx grand prix, and the synopsis of the Sunday programme should say that it's coverage of the xxx grand prix where xxx is the name of the race.

You can then have other programme titles for other forms of motor sports, in the same category, so that we can have separate Season Passes for F1, CART, bikes, carting etc.

There was another bizarre category I spotted - a Snooker programme was in a category called "Billiards". Here in the UK Billiards is rarely shown on TV (in fact I've never ever seen it), but we get a lot of snooker. It would make a lot more sense better if the category was renamed to "Billiards and Snooker" or "Billiards/Snooker".


[This message has been edited by mrtickle (edited 12-13-2001).]

coderus
12-13-2001, 10:48 AM
Is there any chance that the schedule data for CNN (502) could be brought up to date,

As I have season passes for

Business unusual
Science and Technology
CnnDotCom

But the given schedule times are never correct. And I get other programs which are usual discussion on the war.

This is using NTL Digital Cable.

Thanks

deshepherd
12-13-2001, 10:58 AM
Modan writes "Football (no not soccer)"

while some people insist on calling Association Football by the common name of "soccer" surely no-one would confuse that game with Football (i.e. the game of football played to the rules of the Rugby Football Union?)

:-)

Modan
12-13-2001, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by deshepherd:
Modan writes "Football (no not soccer)"

while some people insist on calling Association Football by the common name of "soccer" surely no-one would confuse that game with Football (i.e. the game of football played to the rules of the Rugby Football Union?)

:-)

Just because some young whipper snapper decided to handle the ball, and got away with it doesn't make rugby a sport http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif

I was thinking of quoting an advert on ITV Sport, but chickened out at the last minute. Oh well, what the heck. ("No lady-boy, we mean football")

TribJim
12-13-2001, 11:13 AM
I am well aware of which came first....I've supported Newcastle United all my life!

Also, thanks for all the input regarding the way sport is listed.

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Jim V.

dallardice
12-13-2001, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by coderus:
Is there any chance that the schedule data for CNN (502) could be brought up to date,

Business unusual
Science and Technology
CnnDotCom


I was under the impression that CNN had more or less thrown away its programme schedule since Sept 11. Certainly many of the feature programmes have been cancelled to make way for more war coverage.

bignoise
12-13-2001, 04:00 PM
Getting the correct broadcast hours for Nickelodeon on ITV digital (06:00-19:00, not 07:00-19:00) would be nice, also.. :-)

gary cheshire
12-14-2001, 03:10 AM
Jim,

Thankyou for correcting the now and again guide error and if would pass that onto your scifi guy.

So how does it work that the trib, does a different person look after each channel and how do you pickup all those late programme changes?

Cheers

Gary

coderus
12-14-2001, 05:43 AM
Well, I have notice that my NTL digital guide has differen't schedule to my TiVO schedule so some-where they must be an update schedule ???.

Also - It would be really handy if TiVo has a feature which allowed season passes to disabled. ( And I don't mean deleted them and re-create them at a later date :-) )

scoopuk
12-16-2001, 05:38 AM
Quite a few E4 listings around Sat 29 December are different to those in the TV listings magazines. There`s also several To Be Advised chunks over the following few days. Channel 5 details also seem to be missing around the same time.

Tonight`s late-scheduled Panorama Special on BBC 1 is missing.

Service: Sky Digital

Milhouse
12-16-2001, 01:35 PM
CR0 1xx
Telewest Analogue Cable
E4
55

Not sure about weekdays, but certainly on Sundays until mid afternoon E4 on channel 55 is showing Front Row, yet the EPG reckons there are programs being shown, which there might be in other regions. My TiVo keeps trying to record Dawsons Creek at 2pm, but instead I end up with an hour of Front Row advertising. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif

Paj
12-17-2001, 01:02 AM
HD9
Sky Digital
UK Horizons
Friday the 21st of December 10PM


When Louis met Paul and Debbie - description is of When Louis Met Jimmy Saville.

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Paj sits down and sings about gold.

PPB
12-18-2001, 05:59 AM
E3
ITV Digital
BBC2
Tuesday 18 December 2001 01:00-02:30

British film called 'Noose'- 1948
Synopsis correct, but cast list/production details for a film called Snitch - Dir.Ted Demme - 1998 aka Noose 1997 (USA)

Ian_m
12-19-2001, 02:59 AM
ITV (Meridian)

Thursday 3rd of Jan @ 9.00pm Peak Practice is listed as Peak Performance !!! so season passes won't work.

AENG
12-20-2001, 04:51 PM
SG17
Aerial
Ch 27 BBC2
Thursday 20 December 7.30 p.m.
EPG gives: First Sight - "Sleigh ride to..... Enfield"

Actually aired (and billed in RT): Matter of Fact - The Kings Choristers.

GarethR
12-21-2001, 07:22 PM
RM14
CH 2 (BBC-2)
ITV Digital

Friday 21/12/01 - The Simpsons on BBC-2 at 18:00 had an incorrect (too short) duration of 20 minutes. It was immediately followed by another episode which had the correct duration of 25 minutes.

My TiVo was set to record both episodes, so I did actually get all of each of them, but obviously it's a pain to have to see the end of the first recording by watching the beginning of the second!

Ianl
12-21-2001, 08:18 PM
sky one
analog cable
GU2
Stargate
wed 8pm
all upcoming episodes still have the same description

ArwelP
12-22-2001, 04:06 PM
Fans of "Scrapheap Challenge" on C4 should beware - there's "Scrapheap Mega Challenge" on Sunday 23rd December, 1730-1905 which appears in the TiVo schedule as just "Scrapheap", neatly missing all the season passes :mad:

If you miss it, and can receive S4C, they'll be showing it on 2nd January, 1100-1235.

GarySargent
12-22-2001, 04:53 PM
I noticed earlier that a number of the late (after 10pm) channel 5 programmes over the xmas period disagreed with my copy of the Radio Times. Don't know which is correct...

OzSat
12-23-2001, 04:27 AM
Trigger Happy Christmas 2 was scheduled for last night on Sky EPG - but TiVo missed it - reason: because TiVo was right and it was a repeat of programme 1.

Channel 5 often change their schedule to confuse everybody - they are the worst in notifying publishers.

Looking at programe guides recently across all channels - I have found that Digiguide, TiVo and Sky are as (un)reliable as others - mainly down to the broadcasters not report updates correctly I guess.

Beancounter
12-23-2001, 07:05 AM
AB51
Sky Digital
Channel 103 ITV1GPN

The Bill


The programme description has changed again from "Police Drama" to " Soap Opera" meaning I have had to set up a new season pass for this show.

smartywj
12-23-2001, 07:46 AM
I use ITV Digital and for ages now Granada Pluss never has programme guide data. ostcode: SY25DN.

Brangdon
12-23-2001, 11:18 AM
C5
ITV Digital
NG10
Twin Peaks
23rd Dec 1:10am

Twin Peaks was listed as starting at 1:10am. It actually started at 1:45. The end-time was correct at 2:45 (so the length was wrong). The TV7 listings paper magazine had it correct.

Automan
12-27-2001, 03:26 PM
- Postcode - BN25
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - UK Gold
- Channel Number - 109
- Programme Name - Le Fils du desert
- Time/Date of airing - 04:10 30/12/01
- Problem encountered

The Sky EPG claims this is "She Wore A Yellow Ribbon" but I think the French title refers to "The Three Godfathers".
The TiVo guide says this film has John Wayne in but the description is in French!

I don't think John Wayne made many French films?

Automan.

Automan
12-29-2001, 05:49 AM
- Postcode - BN25
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - BBC Choice
- Channel Number - 160
- Programme Name - Christmas Horror
- Time/Date of airing - 22:00 29/12/01 & 30/12/01 & 31/12/01
- Problem encountered

BBC Choice are showing a season of horror films - two a night.
What does the Tribune guide say "Christmas Horror", Description "Film"

Today at 22:30 It's "Dawn Of The Dead" then at 00:50 it's "Near Dark" which ends at 02:20 and thus the 2hr slots in the TiVo Tribune guide are also useless.

The Information (if that's the correct word" is also wrong for the 30th

22:30 “Eighteenth Angel” followed by "The Haunting" (1963 W/S Version) at 23:55

On The 31st the Tribune data is even worse giving the movie Halloween a 30 minute time slot :(

It should be
22:30 Halloween (W/S)
00:00 Demon Seed (W/S)

Followed by a program at 01:30 called "Madonna's Millions"

Will the guide data ever get better?

Automan.

mrtickle
12-29-2001, 07:57 AM
In their defence, the C4 documentary about the Wicker Man tomorrow morning has been correctly changed to its new time of 00:35.

In their attack, it has the pitiful, shameful, description of

"No information available"

instead of

"Mark Kermode presents a documentary on the myth and the making of the cult 1973 film 'The Wicker Man'. Panned by critics on release, it has slowly become a cinematic phenomenon. The late Anthony Shaffer reveals how his screenplay was inspired by an interest in pagan rituals. And Director Robin Hardy describes the troubled shoots, the lawsuits and savage recutting of his film (Subtitles)"

which DigiGuide has.

LJ
12-29-2001, 01:23 PM
Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 53
Prog Name: 100 Greatest TV Treats of the Year
Time/Date of Airing: 9:15PM 29/12/01
Problem: Description shows "No programme description available"

LJ
12-29-2001, 01:24 PM
Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 53
Prog Name: Burnt Offering: The Cult of the Wicker Man
Time/Date of Airing: 12:35AM 30/12/01
Problem: Description shows "No programme description available"

LJ
12-29-2001, 01:25 PM
Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: BBC 2
Channel Number: 63
Prog Name: SIGN OFF
Time/Date of Airing: 2:40AM 30/12/01
Problem: Description shows "No programme description available"

LJ
12-29-2001, 01:26 PM
Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 53
Prog Name: Viva La Diva
Time/Date of Airing: 9:00PM 30/12/01
Problem: Description shows "No programme description available"

Automan
12-30-2001, 06:47 AM
- Postcode - BN25
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - ITV MER
- Channel Number - 103
- Programme Name - Gone With The Wind
- Time/Date of airing - 30 & 31/12/01
- Problem encountered

Movie is in two parts...
You have guessed it – The descriptions are the same you may only get the first part!

Automan.

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 09:30 AM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Classic Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: multiple between Mon 31st Dec and Wed 9th Jan
Problem: Many of the episode synopses are wrong. This seems to have been caused by a (probably late) decision not to show any episodes on 24th/25th/26th Dec, so they are sometimes 3 episodes out of sync. Comparing Digiguide (which seems to have been corrected), the descriptions at http://www.corrie.net/updates/classic/1989.html (which are out of sync until Mon 7th Jan), the Sky EPG, and TiVo, I get:

Mon 31st: TiVo correct
Tues 1st: TiVo has wrong synopsis, this episode has now moved to Fri 4th
Wed 2nd: TiVo has wrong synopsis, this episode has now moved to Mon 7th
Thu 3rd: TiVo has wrong synopsis, this episode has now moved to Tue 8th
Fri 4th: TiVo has wrong synopsis, this episode has now moved to Wed 9th

Mon 7th: back in sync and correct (synopsis same as the wrong one on Wed 2nd)
Tue 8th: back in sync and correct (synopsis same as the wrong one on Thu 3rd)
Wed 9th: back in sync and correct (synopsis same as the wrong one on Fri 4th)
Thu 10th: was back in sync and correct. However after last night's call, TiVo's synopsis is now wrong and it shows the one which should be for Thurs 17th.
[update: after another call TiVo's synopsis has moved back two days and now shows the one which should be for Tues 15th]

Fri 11th: back in sync and correct


Mon 14th: TiVo has wrong synopsis, this is the one for Tues 15th.
[update: after another call TiVo's synopsis has moved forward one day and now shows the one which should be for Wed 16th]

Tue 15th: Gets worse from here - the synopses are different for the 9am, 12pm and 6.30pm showings. In reality the same episode is always shown 3 times each day.
- 9am: wrong synopsis, this is the one which should be for Thurs 17th
- 12pm & 6.30pm: correct synopsis but the Pound sign is corrupted.
[update: after another call TiVo's synopsis has moved again:
- 9am: now shows correct synopsis but again with corrupt Pound sign.
- 12pm & 6.30pm: synopsis from Wed 16th again]

Wed 16th: All 3 showings have the same synopsis as Tue 15th :(
[update: after another call TiVo's synopsis are all correct :)]

Thu 17th: correct synopsis
[update: after another call TiVo's synopsis are all wrong :(, they are another copy of the Tues 15th episode]

Fri 18th: (no listings yet)
[update: TiVo's synopsis are wrong, they describe the Wed 16th episode]

As well as the static wrong synopsis for Tues 1st-Fri 4th, it seems after each daily call the listings for Thurs 10th, Mon 14th and Tues 15th change (each showing has now had 3 different synopsis since I noticed it), and all days following Tues 15th get changed as well.

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 09:31 AM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Driven
Time/Date of airing: Thurs 10th Jan 20:00
Problem: Description is blank.

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 09:33 AM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: Liquid News

Time/Date of airing: Tues 1st Jan 19:00
Problem: programme is missing from TiVo Schedule. TiVo has "To be announced".

Time/Date of airing: Wed 2nd Jan 19:00
Problem: programme is missing from TiVo Schedule. TiVo has "To be announced".

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 09:34 AM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: So Graham Norton
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: almost every synopsis is wrong:

Mon 7th 22:30 - ok, correct guests Richard Chamberlain and Jane Horrocks
Tue 8th 01:10 - ok (repeat of Mon 7th 22:30)
Tue 8th 22:30 - wrong. Should be Lauren Bacall, Jack Ryder and Natalie Cassidy
Wed 9th 01:10 - wrong. repeat of Tue 8th 22:30, should be Lauren Bacall, Jack Ryder and Natalie Cassidy
Wed 9th 22:30 - wrong. Should be Patrick Duffy and Sheena Easton
Thu 10th 01:10 - wrong. repeat of Wed 9th 22:30, should be Patrick Duffy and Sheena Easton
Mon 14th 22:30 - wrong
Tue 15th 01:10 - wrong
Tue 15th 22:30 - wrong
Wed 16th 01:15 - wrong
Wed 16th 22:30 - wrong
Thu 17th 01:15 - wrong

Every synopsis is the same, describing the Richard Chamberlain and Jane Horrocks episode.

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 09:36 AM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: Stargate SG-1
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem1: Episode titles missing for Mon 31st Dec 6am, 6pm. Should be "Fail Safe". Description is wrong.

Problem2: The first episode "Children of the Gods" has been split into two parts, shown on Tue 1st Jan (6am, repeated 6pm) and Wed 2nd Jan (6am, repeated 6pm). Both parts have the same synopsis - should be "part 1" and "part 2" in there somewhere.

Problem3: Episode title missing for Wed 9th Jan 8pm: Should be "Summit/Last Stand"; Sky One have edited these two episodes together of their own accord into a single 1hr 50min slot. Description is wrong.

Problem4: Every time the title is missing the description is "<list of actors>... A team searches for clues to save the Earth from imminent destruction". This is a bad generic description to use, it sounds like a specific episode. If the correct episode title/desc is not available, a more vague generic description is needed!

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 09:37 AM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Discovery, Discovery+1, E4
Channel Number: 551, 552, 205
Programme Name: Scrapheap Challenge
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: Every single showing in 2002 has the SAME specific description - that of the 2000 Christmas special episode. This affects:

Tue 1st Jan 18:00 Disc
Tue 1st Jan 19:00 Disc+1
Thu 3rd Jan 23:30 Disc
Fri 4th Jan 00:30 Disc+1
Fri 4th Jan 05:00 Disc
Fri 4th Jan 06:00 Disc+1
Sat 5th Jan 20:00 Disc
Sat 5th Jan 21:00 Disc+1
Sun 6th Jan 11:00 Disc
Sun 6th Jan 12:00 Disc+1
Tue 8th Jan 20:30 Disc
Tue 8th Jan 20:30 Disc+1
Wed 9th Jan 05:00 Disc
Wed 9th Jan 06:00 Disc+1
Wed 9th Jan 11:00 Disc
Wed 9th Jan 12:00 Disc+1
Thu 10th Jan 23:30 Disc
Fri 11th Jan 00:30 Disc+1
Fri 11th Jan 05:00 Disc
Fri 11th Jan 06:00 Disc+1

Sat 12th Jan 15:00 E4

Sat 12th Jan 20:00 Disc
Sat 12th Jan 21:00 Disc+1
Sun 13th Jan 11:00 Disc
Sun 13th Jan 12:00 Disc+1

If the broadcasters do not supply the correct descriptions, please use a generic one and not the same specific one over and over again!

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 12:15 PM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Play UK
Channel Number: 217
Programme Name: The Office
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below.
Problem: Some wrong synopses. All the episode titles (obtained from BBC Web site, http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/ ) are missing, would be useful to add them please?

Sun 6th Jan 20:00 - ep 1 "Downsize" - description ok
Sun 6th Jan 20:35 - ep 2 "Work Experience" - description ok
Sun 6th Jan 21:10 - ep 3 "The Quiz" - description ok
Sun 6th Jan 21:45 - ep 4 "Training" - description ok
Sun 6th Jan 22:20 - ep 5 "New Girl" - description ok, but different to other sources ("Though he is supposed to be making redundancies, Brent hires a new secretary. Later, it's beers all round as the team go to Chasers, Slough's premier nightclub.")
Sun 6th Jan 22:55 - ep 6 "Judgement" - description ok

Sun 6th Jan 23:30 - ep 1 "Downsize" - description ok
Mon 7th Jan 00:05 - ep 2 "Work Experience" - description ok
Mon 7th Jan 00:40 - ep 3 "The Quiz" - description ok
Mon 7th Jan 01:15 - ep 4 "Training" - description ok
Mon 7th Jan 01:50 - Tivo has the description of ep 1 "Downsize", this is wrong. Should be ep 5 "New Girl" with the same synopsis as Sun 6th Jan 22:20
Mon 7th Jan 02:25 - ep 6 "Judgement" - description ok

Mon 7th Jan 03:00 - ep 1 "Downsize" - description ok


Then we're into a routine of 1 episode on Monday nights, repeated 4 more times each week:

Mon 7th Jan 22:30 - ep 1 "Downsize" - description ok
Tue 8th Jan 01:15 - ep 1 "Downsize" - description ok
Wed 9th Jan 21:15 - ep 1 "Downsize" - description ok
Thu 10th Jan 00:05 - ep 1 "Downsize" - description ok
Thu 10th Jan 01:55 - ep 1 "Downsize" - description ok

Mon 14th Jan 22:30 - ep 2 "Work Experience" - description ok
Tue 15th Jan 01:15 - ep 2 "Work Experience" - description ok
Wed 16th Jan 21:15 - ep 2 "Work Experience" - description ok
Thu 17th Jan 00:05 - ep 2 "Work Experience" - description ok
Thu 17th Jan 01:50 - ep 2 "Work Experience" - description ok

So in summary it's just the synopsis of Mon 7th Jan 01:50 which is at the moment, but please check that all the showings in week beginning Mon 4th Feb (which is when episode 5 is due to be shown again) don't also have the same problem.

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 12:17 PM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Frank Skinner Show
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: All episodes have the same description on TiVo, describing the episode where he interviews Narry Manilow fans and an American psychic.

Digiguide lists the following guests:
Mon 7th Jan 23:00 - Ivana Trump and Buzz Aldrin
Tue 8th Jan 23:00 - Jaid Barrymore and John Humphrys
Wed 9th Jan 23:00 - a couple of birth control experts and a chimpanzee that uses sign language
Thu 10th Jan 23:00 - Myra Lee Lewis and Jane Couch

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 12:19 PM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Play UK
Channel Number: 217
Programme Name: Big Train
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below.
Problem: All episodes have the same description which is for episode 1.

Looks as if it's the familiar Play UK scheduling of one episode per week repeated a few times.

Tue 8th Jan 21:50 - ep 1, ok
Wed 9th Jan 00:40 and 02:30 - ep 1, ok

But!
Tue 15th Jan 21:50, Tue 16th Jan 00:40 and 02:35 - TiVo has the same synopsis from ep 1, where it ought to be the one for episode 2.

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 12:20 PM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: The Royal Institution Christmas Lectures 2001: The Secrets of Life
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: Episode descriptions are wrong for 4 out of 5 repeats.

Ep 1: shown Wed 26th Dec 11:30, repeated Mon 31st Dec 03:55
Ep 2: shown Thu 27th Dec 12:00, repeated Thu 3rd Jan 04:00
Ep 3: shown Fri 28th Dec 12:00, repeated Fri 4th Jan 04:00
Ep 4: shown Sat 29th Dec 12:00, repeated Sat 5th Jan 03:00
Ep 5: Shown Sun 30th Dec 12:30, repeated Sat 5th Jan 03:55

All 5 repeats have the episode title and description from episode 1. Ie, the title and synopses for Thu 3rd Jan 04:00, Fri 4th Jan 04:00, Sat 5th Jan 03:00 and Sat 5th Jan 03:55 are all wrong.

Also - this is an annual series of lectures with 5 new lectures every Christmas. It would be better if the title of the programme was "The Royal Institution Christmas Lectures" so that you could set a Season Pass which would work for every year.

mrtickle
12-30-2001, 12:21 PM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Trigger Happy TV
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: All showings have the same, wrong, description - that of the Xmas special part 2 episode.

This affects:
Mon 7th Jan 20:30
Tue 8th Jan 00:15
Tue 8th Jan 20:30
Wed 9th Jan 00:15
Wed 9th Jan 20:30
Thu 10th Jan 00:15
Thu 10th Jan 20:30
Fri 11th Jan 00:15
Mon 14th Jan 20:30
Tue 15th Jan 00:15
Tue 15th Jan 20:30
Wed 16th Jan 00:15
Wed 16th Jan 20:30
Thu 17th Jan 00:15
Thu 17th Jan 20:30
Fri 18th Jan 00:15 - no listings yet but I'm guessing it'll be the same :(

the Xmas special part 2 episode was called "Trigger Happy Christmas 2" and it was shown on E4 on Sun 30th Dec 21:00 repeated Mon 31st Dec 01:00; and on Channel 4 on Mon 24th Dec 21:05 repeated Mon 31st Dec 23:05.

None of the showings of Trigger Happy TV listed above are of the Christmas special and should have a proper generic description for the main series.

LJ
12-30-2001, 12:56 PM
Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: BBC2SE
Channel Number: 63
Prog Name: Adam Hart-Davis Says Come To Your Senses
Time/Date of Airing: 11:10AM 28/12/01
Problem: Description shown is for the first of the three shows, not the third one.

scoopuk
12-31-2001, 10:16 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mrtickle
[B]Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Frank Skinner Show
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: All episodes have the same description on TiVo, describing the episode where he interviews Narry Manilow fans and an American psychic.
QUOTE]

Postcode: N7
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Frank Skinner Show
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below

And it's the same problem for the following week.

Checkout: www.paramountcomedy.co.uk
for the full details. Indeed Tribune should cross-check with this site more often, it has full schedules with detailed descriptions for weeks ahead.

LJ
12-31-2001, 10:25 AM
Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: BBC2SE
Channel Number: 63
Prog Name: Taste
Time/Date of Airing: 8:25PM 05/01/01
Problem: The programme is a series about different tastes of interior design - the category shown is "Cooking, How To" ;)

LJ
12-31-2001, 10:27 AM
Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: ITV1CAR
Channel Number: 60
Prog Name: The Phoenix Factor
Time/Date of Airing: 1:10PM 06/01/02
Problem: Description shows "No programme description available"

Ianl
12-31-2001, 03:22 PM
Where eagles dare had a program description which included "much derring-do ensues" I assume derring-do is an American expression, any one know what it means?

Ianl
12-31-2001, 03:36 PM
maybee I've been watching more over Christmas but......:


analog cable , GU2

Sky one,
10th Kingdom
Christmas week and new year week
program descriptions for first five episodes are for later episodes, descriptions for the later episodes say not available

Stargate
sky one
still a lot of generic or wrong descriptions caudsing lots of repeats and or missed shows


Charmed
Living tv
episodes on 7th jan and 8th jan have different titles but identical descriptions - one must have the wronng description. also lots of episodes with the same generic description


Xmen Evolution
cartoon network
has not yet advertised the correect episode


WWF heat
ch 4 ( I think)
for two , maybee three, weeks has advertised it as the last episode when it is still ongoing


lots of channels over christmas especially scifi had programs called "movie" where the program description was actually just the name of the film.



Please, please , please
can the episode number be included in the program description as it makes it so much easier to see if it is a new episode or if you have seen it before. so many programs have this in all the TV magazenes, ie buffy, angel, stargate, voyager, charmed, friends etc etc

Automan
01-01-2002, 03:16 AM
- Postcode - BN25
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - BBC1
- Channel Number - 101
- Programme Name - Snowball Express
- Time/Date of Tribune Screwup - 05:25 01/01/02
- Problem encountered

My first TiVo recording of the year and yes it let's me down :(

The above Disney movie is in the "guide data" as two entries

05:25 - 06:00 then 06:00 - 07:00 and thus only got the first part.

Will the program guide data in TiVo ever improve to a useable level?

Automan.

OzSat
01-01-2002, 03:40 AM
- Postcode - any England post-code outside South East area
- Service Provider - all analogue platforms
- Channel Name - BBC2
- Channel Number - various
- Programme Name - First Sight
- Time/Date - 19:30 10th Jan 2002
- Problem encountered

First Sight is listed as being shown on all England BBC2 channels - it is only being shown on the digital BBC2 and BBC2SE.

All other England regions have the problem listed but are showing different programmes.

OzSat
01-01-2002, 03:41 AM
- Postcode - TD7
- Service Provider - all platforms
- Channel Name - Border Scotland
- Channel Number - various
- Programme Name - several
- Time/Date - 19:30 31st Dec 2001
- Problem encountered

All programmes listed on Border TV were the England version of the channel. Border Scotland viewers had their own programmes which were different from 8pm to 12.05am.

TiVo does not support the Border Scotland region - even though it is available as a separate service on Sky Digital.

Automan
01-02-2002, 08:35 AM
- Postcode - BN25
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - ChannelHealth
- Channel Number - 193
- Programme Name - Ben Casey
- Time/Date of Error - 06:00 09:00 14:00 Every Week Day
- Problem encountered

Ben Casey is no longer on - replaced by ADRENALIN JUNKIES

Correct listings for this channel can be found at http://www.channelhealth.tv/index.asp or via your Sky EPG

Automan.

OzSat
01-02-2002, 12:12 PM
- Postcode - OX5
- Service Provider - various
- Channel Name - BBC1
- Channel Number - 101
- Programme Name - The Ghost Hunter
- Time/Date of airing - 17:30 02/01/02
- Problem encountered -

The correct title for this programme is "The Ghost Hunter"

TiVo listed it for the first episode as "Ghost Hunters"
TiVo lists the second and third episodes as "The Ghosthunter" (17:30 on 3rd/4th Jan)
TiVo lists the fourth episode as "The Ghost Hunter" (16:35 on 7th Jan)

Three season passes required for one series :(


Radio Times misses "The " out for the first episode!

mrtickle
01-04-2002, 10:40 AM
Last weekend I posted lots of scheduling errors. Here is an update on their status.


Programme Name: Classic Coronation Street

4/5 wrong:
Mon 31st: was correct
Tues 1st: was wrong, wasn't corrected
Wed 2nd: was wrong, wasn't corrected
Thu 3rd: was wrong, wasn't corrected
Fri 4th: was wrong, wasn't corrected

1/5 wrong:
Mon 7th: correct
Tue 8th: correct
Wed 9th: correct
Thu 10th: was correct, then was updated to make it wrong (shows the 17th's synopsis), then again (15th's), and AGAIN (17th's). Still wrong.
Fri 11th: correct

4/5 wrong:
Mon 14th: was wrong (15th's), then again (16th's), and now wrong again (21st's).
Tue 15th: 9am/12pm/6.30pm have always shown different episodes, a different two seem to get picked every day. Currently shows the 17th's synopsis for 9am and the 21st's synopsis for the two repeats. wrong
Wed 16th: was wrong (15th's), then CORRECT, and now wrong again (21st's).
Thu 17th: correct
Fri 18th: wrong (21st's synopsis is shown)

1/2 wrong:
Mon 21st: correct
Tue 22nd: wrong (21st's synopsis is shown)


Status: This programme's data is getting worse. After each daily call, the number of errors INCREASES, not decreases! :(


Programme Name: Driven
Status: Fixed! :)

Programme Name: Liquid News
Status: Fixed! :)

Programme Name: So Graham Norton
Status: Bodged
Wed 9th 22:30 & Thu 10th 01:10 replaced with correct description!
All other episodes have been replaced with a generic description.

Programme Name: Stargate SG-1
Status: Not fixed :(

Programme Name: Scrapheap Challenge
Status: Bodged :( Descriptions now generic. But last year there were episode titles for this programme, and good synopses of what had to be built each time.

Programme Name: The Office
Status: Fixed and enhanced! (Episode titles added) - thankyou! :D

Programme Name: Frank Skinner Show
Status: Not fixed :( Please use the Paramount Comedy website as suggested above?

Programme Name: Big Train
Status: Bodged; all episodes now have a generic description. But this means that the description for episode 1 which was correct and useful, has been sacrificed.

Programme Name: The Royal Institution Christmas Lectures 2001: The Secrets of Life
Status: Fixed! :)

Programme Name: Trigger Happy TV
Status: Fixed! :)

timswf
01-04-2002, 04:30 PM
- Postcode CM3
- Service Provider Sky
- Channel Name C4
- Channel Number 104
- Programme Name all
- Time/Date of airing all day
- Problem encountered - no listings tba

Lucky I checked to see if my Frasier season pass would catch tonight's new episode.. nope.. no listings at all for c4 all day - all tba..

rats

rgds

tim

OzSat
01-05-2002, 09:54 AM
The schedules provided by TiVo for Sky One, Sky Premier and Sky Moviemax on the ITV Digital platform, are actually the main schedules for Sky Digital and cable.

Due to rights issues, ITV Digital has a few programme changes from these schedules which are not presented on the TiVo guide.

The January variations are as follows:

SKY MOVIEMAX - ITV DIGITAL VARIATIONS

Monday 7 January
20.00 SKY: SUPERNOVA
ITV DIGITAL: FIRETRAP
22.00 SKY: STIGMATA
ITV DIGITAL: EPICENTER

Friday 11 January
22.00 SKY: THE RAGE: CARRIE 2
ITV DIGITAL: SACRIFICE

SKY PREMIER - ITV DIGITAL VARIATIONS

Thursday 17 January
08.00 SKY: SWITCHING GOALS
ITV DIGITAL: I SAW MOMMY KISSING SANTA CLAUS
16.00 SKY: SWITCHING GOALS
ITV DIGITAL: I SAW MOMMY KISSING SANTA CLAUS

Tuesday 22 January
24.00 SKY: THE WATERBOY
ITV DIGITAL: SWEENEY TODD

SKY ONE: ITV DIGITAL VARIATIONS

Weekdays from Monday 14 January
16.00 SKY DIGITAL: SLIDERS
ITV DIGITAL: THE PRETENDER

scoopuk
01-05-2002, 10:16 AM
All services

Date: Next Monday 7th January
Channel 4
Time: 2200
Programme: Double Life of Jonathan King

This has been postponed for legal reasons:

media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,627766,00.html

mrtickle
01-06-2002, 10:40 AM
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Classic Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: multiple

Another update :(

Mon 7th: correct
Tue 8th: correct
Wed 9th: correct
Thu 10th: corrected
Fri 11th: correct

Mon 14th: was wrong (15th's), then again (16th's), then again (21st's), and now again (15th's)
Tue 15th: 9am/12pm/6.30pm have always shown different episodes, a different two seem to get picked every day. Now shows the 10th's synopsis for 9am and the correct synopsis for the two repeats, but the poind sign in 800 pounds is still corrupted.
Wed 16th: was wrong (15th's), then correct, then wrong again (21st's), and now again (15th's)
Thu 17th: was correct, now wrong (10th's synopsis is shown)
Fri 18th: was wrong (21st's), now again (10th's synopsis is shown)

Mon 21st: was correct, now wrong (10th's synopsis is shown)
Tue 22nd: wrong (10th's synopsis is shown)
Wed 23rd: wrong (10th's synopsis is shown)
Thu 24th: wrong (10th's synopsis is shown)


Status: It's even worse than before, JIM WHERE ARE YOU!

jamesbeeston
01-06-2002, 11:26 AM
Postcode: RG5
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK Gold
Channel Number: 109
Programme Name: Fawlty Towers
Time/Date of airing: Sun 06/01 03:20

There were 3 fawlty Towers episodes listed in the Tivo guide. The last of which was a duplicate of the second. The 3rd fawlty towers was actually The Whistle-Blower.

sammoj
01-06-2002, 06:12 PM
My ITV has gone from Saturday onwards.

Postcode: NE23
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel: 103 Tyne Tees Region.

deshepherd
01-07-2002, 04:33 AM
Not actually an error but though I would add something positive to this thread.

Tribune have now started to list all programs on NickJr rather than just having a 30min block with the names of all the 3x10min progs. Thus a Bob-the-Builder thumbs up will record that 10 mins and not the full half hour in which it appears.

Obviously somethings are improving!

ALanJay
01-07-2002, 04:59 AM
Sky Digital (England)
Paramount Channel 127
9.30 pm on Monday 14, Tuesday 15, Wednesday 16 the same epside discription for these three episodes of BECKER.

Dazbear
01-11-2002, 02:06 PM
BEEN TOLD TO REPORT THIS IN THIS THREAD - HENCE COPY OF TEXT FROM ANOTHER POSTING

Has anyone else become frustated with the declining quality in the listings. I have been very satisfied up to now, but since xmas there has been a definate reduction in their quality!

++ 1 hour programmes being billed as 30 mins,
++ 30 mins only showing as 15 mins (eg big impression on UKGold)

++ Movies are being listed as Movie - very helpful!

++ Poor spelling (eg StricKtly Soho - luckily this spelling error was consistant enough to allow for a season pass to go through - I checked and the programme is STRICTLY)

++ Birds of a Feather seems to be the thing they put when they cant be bothered. It is one of my favourite programmes yet it is never recorded - always something else. When I check in the listings is was never on in the first place.

I can go on, I think the spelling errors are the worst! Has anyone else spotted this trend ?

Darren

Ethanol
01-12-2002, 08:58 AM
Postcode: CF83
Provider: Sky Digital (South Wales)
Channel Name: Sky Premiere 1
Channel Number: 301
Programme Name: Everything
Time/Date of airing: Multiple

All that is on Sky Premiere 1 from 06:00 12/1 to 06:00 13/1 are two hour "Movie" slots.

Before and after this time has listings.

Brownedger
01-12-2002, 12:31 PM
Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Premiership Plus
Channel Number: 433
Programme Name: Football
Time/Date of airing: Mon 21/01 01:30pm** Wrong

Actual Time of airing: Mon 21/01 07:30pm

borrower
01-12-2002, 04:28 PM
Postcode: NG10 3RG
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Brookside
Time/Date of airing: 12/1/2002 4pm
**Tivo showed length as 2 hours but was only on for 1.5 hours (usual length)
Think this was incorrect last week as well

fysmd
01-13-2002, 03:57 AM
Postcode: WF17 8EH
Provider: NTL Analog
Channel Name: Sky Premier
Channel Number: 10
Programme Name: !!ALL!!
Time/Date of airing: from 6am 12/1/2002 to 6am 13/1/2002
All EPG entries read "Movie" Not that helpful on a movie channel!!!
I know this has already been posted but it looks like it's affected the channel generally, not just in one postcode area!.

Yogi
01-14-2002, 03:49 AM
Postcode: NN12 6XD
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: UK Gold
Channel Number: 109
Programme Name: Eastenders
Time/Date of airing: from 8:25am 14/1/2002 to 9am 14/1/2002

Shows production date as 2002, when this episode is at least 3 yrs old

JonnyD
01-14-2002, 04:14 AM
Postcode: DH2 1TZ
Provider: BBC
Channel Name: BBC 2
Channel Number: 64
Programme Name: Never Mind The Buzzcocks
Time/Date of airing: Multiple Monday/Sunday

Programme description the same for every episide including the guest line up.

scoopuk
01-16-2002, 11:41 AM
All the BBC 1 & BBC 2 schedules are being changed on Friday morning to cater for the Henman versus Rusedski showdown at the Australian Open.

See:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/tennis/australian_open/newsid_1764000/1764011.stm

or
http://www.ananova.com/sport/tennis/story/sm_496743.html?menu=sport.tennis

sanderton
01-17-2002, 06:46 AM
Postcode: BA4 4JU
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: The Tweenies
Time/Date of airing: Multiple every day

Has same programme description (for a specific episode, not generic) listed for all episodes. BBC 2 listings are correct.

ALanJay
01-17-2002, 11:16 AM
Provider: Sky Digital England
Channel Name: Halmark
Channel Number: 190
Programme Name: JAG
Time/Date of airing: 17th Jan 2001 12pm should have been 12am on 18th jan - 17th @ 12pm was Dr ... medicine Woman.

dmeldrum
01-18-2002, 03:18 PM
Postcode : SE9
Platform : Sky Digital
Channel Name : Paramount Comedy
Channel Number : 127
Programme Name : Paul Merton
Time/Date of airing: Every day, Mon - Thu, midnight ish

Generic description for each programme, each episode is different but no option to record Season Pass.

LJ
01-19-2002, 03:33 AM
Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: ITVCAR
Channel Number: 60
Prog Name: CD:UK
Time/Date of Airing: 11:30 19/01/02
Problem: No description available.