ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors

[ozsat]

It wasn't just new data that was held up - but some were all Jim's hard work with the amendments.

Radio 7 looks fine today!

[cwaring]

Just received the follwing and thought it important enough to mention :)
http://www.radiotimes.beeb.com/content/schedule_updates/

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BBC1 England

11:15pm Boxing Highlights - as scheduled
12:50am Sign Zone: Home Front - as scheduled
1:50am BBC News Special: State of the Union Address
3:30am Sign Zone: Horizon - was 1:50am
4:20am BBC News 24 - was 4:15am

Sign Zone: The Private Life of a Masterpiece and Sign Zone: See Hear will now be shown on Thursday 30 January.

BBC1 Northern Ireland

11:45pm Boxing Highlights
1:20am The Flying Conman
1:45am Small Ads: Kit Cars
1:50am BBC News Special: State of the Union Address
3:30am Sign Zone: Horizon
4:20am BBC News 24

Sign Zone: The Private Life of a Masterpiece and Sign Zone: See Hear will now be shown on Thursday 30 January.

BBC1 Wales

11:45pm Boxing Highlights - as scheduled
1:20am Sign Zone: Watchdog - as scheduled
1:50am BBC News Special: State of the Union Address
3:30am Sign Zone: Horizon - was 1:50am
4:20am BBC News 24 - was 4:15am

Sign Zone: The Private Life of a Masterpiece and Sign Zone: See Hear will now be shown on Thursday 30 January.

BBC1 Scotland

11:45pm Boxing Highlights
1:20am BBC News 24
1:50am BBC News Special: State of the Union Address
3:30am Sign Zone: Horizon - was 1:50am
4:20am BBC News 24 - was 4:15am

Sign Zone: The Private Life of a Masterpiece and Sign Zone: See Hear will now be showing on Thursday 30 January.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by Jim99
Re BBC Radio 7:

Anyone care to give some examples?

Our data is correct per latest schedules released by the BBC. Please see my post regarding the late arrival of new schedules last week. Our info is current through Feb 6.

Examples below for you Jim. I don't understand the Feb 6 bit though, I have R7 data until Feb 14th. Are you saying that the data in the 2nd week should be ignored and it will be overwritten later? I have noticed before with "Five Live Formula One" on Radio 5 that it always appears in the ToDo list 2 weeks in the future, and is always removed later (this series is not currently airing). This clogs up my recording history and I'd prefer 2-hour blocks than this really?


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7)
Channel Number: 922
Programme Name: On The Hour
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Schedule is:
Mon 27th Jan 08:30, re-run 22:00 - I can go back to this in my guide data as a series, but it has no episodes upcoming :(
Mon 3rd Feb 08:30, re-run 22:00 - is missing. TiVo has "Knowing Me Knowing You", that series has ended.
Mon 10th Feb 08:30, re-run 22:00 is also missing, same problem. Is "Knowing Me Knowing You" set as a permanent template for this timeslot?




Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7)
Channel Number: 922
Programme Name: Room 101
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Schedule is:
Tue 28th Jan 08:30, re-run 22:00 - correct
Tue 4th Feb 08:30, re-run 22:00 - is missing. TiVo has "The League of Gentlemen", that series has ended.
Tue 11th Feb 08:30, re-run 22:00 is also missing, same problem. Is "The League of Gentlemen" set as a permanent template for this timeslot?



Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7)
Channel Number: 922
Programme Name: I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue
Time/Date of airing: various, see below


Missing from Guide Data:

Sat 1st Feb 12:00, re-run 19:00
Sat 8th Feb 12:00, re-run 19:00


HTH

[Jim99]

BBCR7:

You're right, you have have data through the 14th but it is generic, repeated data. We tend to do this sometimes with the lesser channels (obviously BBCR7 isn't a good choice so we'll add placeholders from 7 Feb on.) Yesterday the listings were updated with the full BBCR7 schedule through Feb 6, so the examples you list will be fixed in short order.

I hope this helps.

[ozsat]

Jim doesn't like doing radio listings ;)

But the UK do appreciate it!

[woody]

SkyDigital
C4 - 104
28/103 @ 10.30pm
Buried

The OAD is wrong, it cant be 31/1/03

also

Buried on the 4/2 @ 10.35 has the OAD shown as 8/2/03

[groovyclam]

re: wrong BBC7

I just tried a forced call to see if I could get the correct listings Jim was talking about and, yes, upto 3rd Feb have changed but I could still see that beyond 3rd was a repeat of the Christmas week schedules.

I just logged on here to try and argue my case again, to find that Mr Tickle has ( thankfully ) backed me up with quite a lot of examples. ( I hope for your sake Mr Tickle you can cut and paste from your TiVoWeb )

[bignoise]

Jim, you don't happen to know why there's no episodic data in the TiVo listings for Nicktoons TV and Nick Jr, do you? (I know they issue it to you..)

[Apologies to anyone who is tired of me asking this question..] :-)

[Brownedger]

Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky Digital
Date: Sat & sun 1st & 2nd Feb
Channel: E! Entertainment
Number: 250
Problem: Saturday and Sunday have lots of holes in the listing "to be announced"

[Jim99]

Nick Schedules:

I have the Febuary and March Nicktoons schedules on my desk and they have no episodic details! I'll drop a line to the agency who distribute these schedules and see if we can get them.

Thanks,
Jim

[Jim99]

Re: BBCR7 (Last Time!!!!)

I have confirmed that correct listings (per latest BBC schedules) have been provided through 7 Feb (1 day more than I originally said.) All future days have been switched to generic "BBC Radio 7" placeholders. New schedules will be inserted as soon as they are released.

Why did I agree to provide these schedules???? :D

[mrtickle]

(re the "Hope this helps" from the other page!)

Many thanks, it does!

Thanks also for deciding to use placeholders instead of repeated data from now on. I think it is better that way, rather than having to find the boundary where the published data ends and the guessed data begins :). Please would you consider making the same change to BBC Radio 5 Live (callsign "BBCR5L")? It has a similar problem.

We love radio listings. It is a big advantage over Sky+, too :)

groovyclam - yes I do c+p. Didn't you notice I suddenly started reporting more errors after I installed TiVoweb :).

[sanderton]

Platform: All
Channel: All

Since the category upgrade changed "Historical" to "History" there are now NO upcoming programmes in the history category on any channel - including The History Channel and UK History. :) :(

[djrowley]

Originally posted by Jim99
Re: BBCR7 (Last Time!!!!)

I have confirmed that correct listings (per latest BBC schedules) have been provided through 7 Feb (1 day more than I originally said.) All future days have been switched to generic "BBC Radio 7" placeholders. New schedules will be inserted as soon as they are released.

Why did I agree to provide these schedules???? :D

Thanks very much - BBC7 is now up to date, which makes a huge difference to us radio addicts. I can now get my Tivo to record Zen and the art of Blake's Seven. Phew.

David

[LJ]

Channel: C4
Programme: Monkey (Yeay! :D)
Date: Early Fridays
Problem:

Not a major one really - the OADs are a bit out - Monkey was originally shown on the BBC from 1979-81. Details here (http://www.martinday.co.uk/monkey.htm).

[andy80085]

Postcode: G4
Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 1
Programme Name: Simpsons

I am not sure if anything can be done about this one, but every episode of the simpsons at 1800 does not finish at 1820 as stated in the guide. The end of every episode is cut off by about 3 minutes.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by andy80085
Postcode: G4
Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 1
Programme Name: Simpsons

I am not sure if anything can be done about this one, but every episode of the simpsons at 1800 does not finish at 1820 as stated in the guide. The end of every episode is cut off by about 3 minutes. This one comes up a lot. Tribune can only provide the official schedules. But the main UK broadcasters will only issue schedules with times rounded to the nearest five minutes.

[sjp]

Postcode: SM3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: DHL & DHL+1
Channel Number: 133 & 134
Programme Name: Late Night Poker
Date & Time: Saturday night at 11pm & midnight

Insufficient programme/episode detail to link these programmes on both channels to allow the 28 day rule to kick in (an SP on each channel is picking up both showings).

[cwaring]

Thought there might be the odd "X Files" fan who may need to know this, if the EPG isn't updated by Sunday :)
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BBC2 evening time changes (includes BBC2 Northern Ireland; please see below for BBC2 Scotland and BBC2 Wales)

9:00pm Dan Cruickshank and the Lost Cities of Iraq - ten minutes longer than billed
10:00pm Jeremy Clarkson Meets the Neighbours - was 9:50pm
10:40pm The X-Files - was 10:30pm
11:25pm Never Mind the Buzzcocks - was 11:15pm
11:55pm Snooker - was 11:45pm
12:40am Film: The Body Snatcher - as billed
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BBC2 Scotland evening time changes

9:50pm Celtic Connections 2003
10:20pm Dan Cruickshank and the Lost Cities of Iraq - ten minutes longer than billed
11:20pm The X-Files - was 11:10pm
12:05am Jeremy Clarkson Meets the Neighbours - 11:55pm
12:45am Snooker - was 12:35am
2:00am Standard Grade Bitesize: History - as scheduled
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BBC2 Wales evening schedule changes

7:15pm Scrum V
8:00pm Snooker
9:00pm Dan Cruickshank and the Lost Cities of Iraq - ten minutes longer than scheduled
9:50pm Jeremy Clarkson Meets the Neighbours - was 10:00pm
10:40pm The X-Files - was 10:30pm
11:25pm Correspondent - was 11:15pm
12:10am Never Mind the Buzzcocks - was 12:00am
12:40am Snooker - 15 minutes shorter than billed
1:25am Matthew Bourne: Profile - new programme in schedule
1:55am Pages from Ceefax - new programme in schedule
2:00am BBC Learning Zone - as scheduled
_____________________________________________


http://www.radiotimes.beeb.com/content/schedule_updates/

[MRussell]

Postcode: RG7
Provider: Terrestial Digital
Channel Name: 5
Programme Name: Dark Angel
Date & Time: Saturday 1st Feb, 19:45 - 20:35

Description is same as last weeks so Tivo's 28 day rule stops it recording the SP.

Incidentally I just noticed that Digiguide have done the same! It's correct in Radio times though.

[LJ]

Platform: Sky
Channel: 104 C4
Programme: The Book Group
Showing: Mon 10th Feb 23:05
Problem: This showing is a repeat of the one on Fri 7th at 21:40 - TiVo wants to record both at the moment. (The other weeks have been fine - this one must've slipped through the net!)

[Crispin]

Postcode: CB4
Platform: NTL Digital
Channel: CH4

It seems as thought the 'World Rally Championship' season pass isn't getting all of the swedish rally, some of the showings are now listed as 'World Rally Championships'

[Adder]

Originally posted by Crispin
Postcode: CB4
Platform: NTL Digital
Channel: CH4

It seems as thought the 'World Rally Championship' season pass isn't getting all of the swedish rally, some of the showings are now listed as 'World Rally Championships'

So thats why I can't find it, so we now have three series that should be the same:

World Rally
World Rally Championship
World Rally Championships

[Andy C]

Nothing serious, but here goes:-


Postcode: GU14
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 140
Programme Name: Fear Factor
Time/Date of airing: Weekly at 8.30pm on Friday
Problem encountered: The repeat showings of each weekly episode on Sunday at 11.00pm are not marked as identical and therefore TiVo is choosing to re-record.

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Postcode: GU14
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: ITV London (ITVLON)
Channel Number: 140
Programme Name: Baddiel & Skinner Unplanned
Time/Date of airing: Weekly at 10.30pm on Wednesdays
Problem encountered: The repeat showings of each weekly episode on Sunday at 0.00am are not marked as identical and therefore TiVo is choosing to re-record.

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Postcode: GU14
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Discovery Channel
Channel Number: 500
Programme Name: Amazing Medical Stories
Time/Date of airing: Many Airings
Problem encountered: The repeat showings of this show on both Discovery and Discovery+1 (Channel 501) are not marked as identical and therefore TiVo is choosing to re-record.

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Postcode: GU14
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Discovery Channel
Channel Number: 500
Programme Name: Medical Miracles
Time/Date of airing: Many Airings
Problem encountered: The repeat showings of this show on both Discovery and Discovery+1 (Channel 501) are not marked as identical and therefore TiVo is choosing to re-record.


Andy.

[bduguid]

The following apply across all platforms, all showings so I haven't given full details for each show. All are cases where the current Category is inaccurate, missing or could otherwise be improved. Dates are for first showing only but applies to all episodes.

3 Feb C4 "Ian Rankin's Evil Thoughts" currently Documentary, Chat Show; should be Documentary, Crime

3 Feb C4 "The Salon" currently Documentary, suggest adding Reality

4 Feb C4 "Artangel: Battle of Orgreave" currently Documentary, History; remove both and should instead be Performing Arts, Docudrama

4 Feb BBC1 "Rail Cops" currently Drama, remove and should instead be Documentary, Reality

4 Feb BBC1 "Red Cap" currently Drama, suggest adding Crime Drama

6 Feb BBC2 "Picasso's Guernica" currently Documentary, Special, remove both and should instead be Fine Art

6 Feb BBC1 "Rogue Traders" currently NO CATEGORY, should be Consumer if such a category exists (not shown in menus but is used on "Watchdog" show on same channel)

6 Feb BBC1 "Panorama" currently News, remove and should instead be Public Affairs

6 Feb BBC2 "Magic Flute" currently NO CATEGORY, should be Opera

7 Feb BBC2 "Science Zone" currently NO CATEGORY, should be Science

8 Feb C4 "London Orbital" currently Documentary, Science, delete Science category

9 Feb ITV1 "South Bank Show" currently Documentary, Biopic, suggest adding Arts, Performing Arts to all episodes

9 Feb C4 "Time Team" currently Science, suggest adding History

11 Feb BBC2 "Building the Perfect Beast" currently NO CATEGORY, suggest Documentary

11 Feb C4 "Pornography Secret History of Civilisation" currently Documentary, Specials, suggest instead Documentary, Fine Art, History

13 Feb BBC2 "Whistle Test Years" currently Music, History, suggest deleting the History category

[mrtickle]

Very useful list. I must go through my own SPs sometime!

Originally posted by bduguid

6 Feb BBC1 "Rogue Traders" currently NO CATEGORY, should be Consumer if such a category exists (not shown in menus but is used on "Watchdog" show on same channel)


I think "consumer" must have been in the synopsis. It wasn't in the old set of genres and isn't in the new either :(
The best I can think of using would be "public affairs". I'm tempted to add "crime" to that too.

[Azrikam]

Postcode: W10
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: FTN
Channel Number: 256
Programme Name: thirtysomething
Time/Date of airing: Monday, Feb. 3 at 8.10pm
Problem encountered: Heads up for anyone who wants to catch this show from the beginning. TiVo guide data lists this as an episode from the 4th season, but according to http://www.ftn.tv/listings.html, it's actually the pilot episode.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Azrikam
Postcode: W10
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: FTN
Channel Number: 256
Programme Name: thirtysomething
Time/Date of airing: Monday, Feb. 3 at 8.10pm
Problem encountered: Heads up for anyone who wants to catch this show from the beginning. TiVo guide data lists this as an episode from the 4th season, but according to http://www.ftn.tv/listings.html, it's actually the pilot episode. The official 'Ftn' schedules list it as the pilot.

[TonyT]

- Postcode - PO20
- Service Provider - aerial
- Channel Name - CH4
- Channel Number - 21
- Programme Name - World Rally Championship
- Time/Date of airing - Fri 7th to Sun 9th
- Problem encountered :

Season Pass is not picking up any of the schedules. I've got 2 season passes - one without the word Championship and one with. If I "view upcoming progs" from the latter SP, then none for CH4 are listed, however if I search using browse by time, then I find them - and they are exactly the same name as my season pass !!

I reported this several times last year to TIVO and again two weeks ago for the Monty rally. Each time I get told it's a fault with Tribune. I thought by deleting and recreating the season passes, this would get around it - but it hasn't ..... any ideas ?
:confused:

[Azrikam]

Originally posted by ozsat
The official 'Ftn' schedules list it as the pilot.

Oop. The time is also incorrect, as the show started at 8:00 PM, not 8:10.

[Azrikam]

Postcode: W10
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Playboy/Adult
Channel Number: 968
Programme Name: various
Time/Date of airing: Each night
Problem encountered: Guide data has the Adult Channel signing off at 4:00AM each morning, but the channel extended its broadcasting hours to 5:30AM months ago. The guide is basically missing the last hour and a half of programming each night.

[digital_S]

Originally posted by TonyT
Season Pass is not picking up any of the schedules. I've got 2 season passes - one without the word Championship and one with. If I "view upcoming progs" from the latter SP, then none for CH4 are listed, however if I search using browse by time, then I find them - and they are exactly the same name as my season pass !! Yeah, for some reason, as well as an SP for 'World Rally', I have 2 SP's as, 'World Rally Championship'. :confused:
1 SP has 3 upcoming episodes, and the other has none!

[dmchapman]

Postcode: CT19
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: CBeebies
Channel Number: 622
Prog Name: Come Outside, Tikabilla + many others
Time/Date: all day every day.



The daya for Cbeebies appears to be getting worse and worse. I reported that "Come Outside" is repeated 3 times a day yet a season pass picks them all up a while back - nothing has changed on that.

The same problem is happening with "Tikabilla" and many other programs on CBeebies making it pretty useless using "save n episodes" at all on this channel.

Also, the episode descriptions for most of the programs are for the wrong episode. This is less serious for me however.

Can this please be sorted - it has never worked since CBeebies launched (> 1 yr) and recently it seems to have been getting worse and worse again after a slight improvement.

The correct listings are on the BBC website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/daylist.cgi?day=Today&service_id=4672)

The website also lists an episode of the TeleTubbies that airs at 6am on Saturday. This always seems to be missing on the Tivo data which seems to think that CBeebies begins at 6:40 on sat.

Thanks,

Darren - getting fed up with reporting this :-(

[sanderton]

Darren - it was my first post on this Forum a year ago, and it still hasn't been fixed.

Nor, despite commenting on a number of other issues, has Jim99 explained to us WHY it hasn't been fixed.

Jim, CBeebies and CBBC are, I believe, in the top 10 most watched channels. Digigide has the data correct. Radio Times has the data correct. Weve been reporting this problem ever since 2.5.5 made it a problem. What is the problem! PLEASE tell us!!! The British Rail style silence on the cause of the problem is more irritating than the problem itself.

[dmchapman]

Yep - its the silence that is most annoying. Tivo CS just say that all they can do is email Tribune and suggest posting on here!

If there is a technical (or even a non technical) reason for the problems on this channel then fine but please tell us. I get the feeling that we are just being ignored.

I am getting fed up with having to prune the todo list so much defeating the whole idea! CBeebies should be an ideal TiVo channel - everything is repeated 3 times a day so plenty of chance to resolve conflict yet it remains one of the most broken channels in terms of guide data. Everyone except the tivo has the correct info. Its not as if the line up changes much!

Right, rant over for now. I need to go and prune my ToDo list again.

Darren

[Jim99]

Here's my answer. While the website is updated with episodic details, the schedules the BBC releases to us are not. We have asked them repeatedly for these details but they cannot meet our deadlines. We have also spoken to the person in charge of the website to try to get the info that way but after short periods of improved cooperation the info dries up.

We understand the repeating pattern but if we don't get episodics it does us no good.

We will continue to attempt to get details but I hope you can understand that it is not for lack of trying.

I will have the editor phone the usual suspects again today.

[sanderton]

Jim, in general we don't care about the actual episodes involved - these are programmes for under 5s!

If you could just set it up so that the three showings a day of each programme are marked with the same (random) episode code, but each days is marked with a different one, that would solve all our problems. Knowing that a particular episode has Jake and Bella performing a pantomime is not important; being able to set a Tweenies SP that records one episode a day, is!

BTW: Digiguide has episode data for CBeebies up to the 14th and generic after that. Is the problem that you are processing this data 21 days out with the satellite channels; would it be solved if you processed it 10 days out with the terrestrial channels?

[dmchapman]

Originally posted by Jim99
Here's my answer. While the website is updated with episodic details, the schedules the BBC releases to us are not. We have asked them repeatedly for these details but they cannot meet our deadlines. We have also spoken to the person in charge of the website to try to get the info that way but after short periods of improved cooperation the info dries up.

Excellent. Thanks for the feedback. The details of the episodes is less important really.

We understand the repeating pattern but if we don't get episodics it does us no good.

as sanderton suggests a random episode code would do.

We will continue to attempt to get details but I hope you can understand that it is not for lack of trying.

I will have the editor phone the usual suspects again today.

Thanks. I understand the problem now. The most frustrating thing is no feedback. Tivo say post here as they can't get any feedback. I post on here and little happens.

Thanks,

Darren

[sanderton]

Could you use the same system you use to assign "todays date" as an episode name for some series? I presume this is automated somehow? Again, we're not going to mind if an episode shown two weeks ago gets recorded again because its been assigned a different episode name.

[Jim99]

We have episodics for all programmes but 4 (Come Outside, Bits and Bobs, Tikkabilla and one other which I've forgotten) for the standard BBC run of 14 days. The programmes which do not have details are listed like this on the official CBeebies schedule.

I am not ruling out the creation of "bogus" episodes but if these episodes are appearing in other guides I'd like to receive them as well.

We'll keep working on this. Thanks for your patience.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by Jim99
We have episodics for all programmes but 4 (Come Outside, Bits and Bobs, Tikkabilla and one other which I've forgotten) for the standard BBC run of 14 days.

Guess which three shows are my kids' favourites. :)

Cheers for the communication, Jim.

[groovyclam]

Some genre fixes:

"Two Fat Ladies" on UKFOOD currently has "Cookery", "DIY" and "Sitcom" genres - it should only have "Cookery".

"Sebastiaine", "Head On" and "Pink Narcissus" on FILM4X should all have the new "Lesbian and Gay" genre added.

I also want to say "thank you" to Jim who seems to have increased his input into this thread lately. The visible feedback is appreciated.

[dmchapman]

Originally posted by groovyclam
I also want to say "thank you" to Jim who seems to have increased his input into this thread lately. The visible feedback is appreciated.

Indeed. Its nice to have a bit of feedback - even if it is "sorry, can't do anything about that"!

Cheers Jim. Your input is appreciated.

Darren

[cwaring]

Jim99. Seeing as we have your attention for a while :)

This one has been bugging me and some others for ages:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=953759

WRT the "synopis" issue mentioned in the second paragraph. I have mentioned this a few times previously, to no avail.

Please take a look at the first post on this page and try and fix it!

Thanks :)

[Adder]

Here's my attempt at looking at the Sports/Motor Racing shows:

"DTM Racing" (MOTORS) - Motor Racing, Sports non-event - this is a Sports event, just ones that happened a while ago, but this year these will be live races so I think it warrants Sports event

"World of Outlaws" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"World Rally Championship" (Channel 4) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"World Rally Championships" (Channel 4) - should be "World Rally Championship" (no s)

"V8 Brutes" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"V8 Star Racing" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"JGTC Racing" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"Australian F3" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"Overdrive" (MOTORS) - Remove Motor Racing, add Motoring?

"Bathurst Replay" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"V8" (MOTORS) - add Sports Event

"Formula Holden Racing" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"Nations Cup Racing" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"IRSI Racing" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"Top 10" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"American LeMans Series" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"CART Racing" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event. - This should probably also be called "Champ Car World Series" now. :)

"Toyota Atlantic Racing Series" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

"V8 Supercars" (MOTORS) - add Sports Event

"ASCAR Racing" (MOTORS) - remove Sports Non-Event, add Sports Event

There's just a few to get started with. ;)

Thanks, for what you guys do Jim.

[Adder]

Listings Inaccuracy:

Provider: BSkyB UK
Postcode: BS7

Channel 416 EUROGB

Time of airing: 21/2 9.45pm

Name: "CART Racing"

- The CART series renamed itself over the winter a part of it's new marketing look can you call the programmes "Champ Car World Series" as this is what the series is now called, the official website is at www.champcarworldseries.com .

The description is also wrong, but probably not your fault:

"A preview of the upcoming CART FedEX Championship."

The series is now called, take a breath,
"Bridgestone Presents the Champ Car World Series Powered by Ford"

It's like calling the Premier League the Carling Premiership still. ;) What is it Barclaycard now?

Eurosport have it correct in their internal listings?

[mrtickle]

I have two duplicate series called "CART Racing". At the same time as one of them is renamed, can the other one be deleted please? :)

[Adder]

More genres:

"WWE The Bottom Line" (SKYSPX) - Remove Sports Non-Event, Pro Wrestling will do. ;)

Ah, thats where the "British Touring Car Championship" (MOTORS) went, remove Motoring and Sports non-event, add Motor Racing and Sports event.

I wondered where it had gone. ;)

"CEV Racing" (MOTORS) , remove sports non-event add Sports event

"Le Mans Classics" (MOTORS) remove Motoring, add Motor Racing and Special. Sports non-event is justified here!

"NASCAR Busch Racing Series"(MOTORS) , remove sports non-event add Sports event

"Nissan World Racing Series"(MOTORS), remove Sports non-event, add Motor Racing, Sports event

"British Rally"(MOTORS), remove Sports non-event, add Motor Racing, Sports event

"Truck GP Racing"(MOTORS), remove Sports non-event and Motor Sport, add Motor Racing, Sports event

Is Motor Sport going to be one of those "dead categories".

[cwaring]

Originally posted by mrtickle
I have two duplicate series called "CART Racing". At the same time as one of them is renamed, can the other one be deleted please? :)

You also have two duplicate posts about it, too :)

[Adder]

Here's some more pro wrestling ones I've earthed up:

Celebrity Death Match (E4/MTVUK), remove wrestling, add pro wrestling.

WWE Heat (SKYSP1), remove wrestling and sports event, add Pro Wrestling

WWE Velocity (SKYSPX), remove sports non-event

WWE Smackdown! (SKYONE), remove sports non-event

WWE After Burn (SKYONE), remove sports non-event

That should leave "wrestling" for "real" wrestling now. Much better having them separated I think for both sides.

WWE RAW (SKYSP2), can we avoid having a different name for RAW every week? Can you kill this series and add the shows to WWE Late Night Raw?

[sanderton]

Originally posted by cwaring
Jim99. Seeing as we have your attention for a while :)

This one has been bugging me and some others for ages:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=953759

WRT the "synopis" issue mentioned in the second paragraph. I have mentioned this a few times previously, to no avail.

Please take a look at the first post on this page and try and fix it!

Thanks :)


Erm, that link points to:


ST6
Sky Digital
E! Television
250

There are several programmes from the Golden Globe Awards scheduled for this sunday 19th January 2003, these are not listed on the Tivo listing for this channel.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[cwaring]

Originally posted by sanderton
Erm, that link points to: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Not when I click it it doesnt! It goes straight to the correct post; the first on on page 6 of this thread :) Strange :confused:

Anyway, here's a direct link then!
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=953759#post953759

[mrtickle]

(You can't describe "page X of a thread" and expect everyone to see the same, because we can all set our own personal "posts per page" values in the preferences. It's meaningless!)

[cwaring]

Originally posted by mrtickle
(You can't describe "page X of a thread" and expect everyone to see the same, because we can all set our own personal "posts per page" values in the preferences. It's meaningless!)

Oh. OK. Didn't know that :) Could be why that link showed a different post for Stuart then?

[SolidTechie]

Originally posted by mrtickle
(You can't describe "page X of a thread" and expect everyone to see the same, because we can all set our own personal "posts per page" values in the preferences. It's meaningless!)

Aren't you supposed to be able to reference a specific post by linking to it's post number (at the bottom right?)

[cwaring]

Originally posted by iancdbutcher
Aren't you supposed to be able to reference a specific post by linking to it's post number (at the bottom right?)

Yes. I did that the second time :)

[Verne]

Postcode: IP1
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Sky Sports 1
Channel Number: 721
Programme Name: Goals On Sunday
Time/Date of airing: Every Sunday from 11.30-14.00
Problem encountered: Season Pass not recording each week because the programme description is wrong. Lately it has had the same programme description of "FA Cup Special" each week and has not recorded because of the 28 day rule.

Postcode: IP1
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Sky Sports 1
Channel Number: 721
Programme Name: Ringside
Time/Date of airing: First shown every Thursday approx 21.00-22.00 and then repeated at various times
Problem encountered: Season Pass not recording each week because the programme description is wrong. The programme description is just "1997" each week and is not recorded because of the 28 day rule. This is a boxing magazine show that has highlights of recent fights.

[SolidTechie]

Originally posted by cwaring
Yes. I did that the second time :)

Mmm... and it didn't work (for me anyway) Clicking the (second version of the)link, shows the the post marked as being #81, which on my setup(board default I think) is at the top of page 3. The one I think you are probably referring to would be #101 from SJP? - this appears a little over half way down on the same page... so it looks like something's been <ahem> "optimised" somewhere! ;)

[digital_S]

I have an SP for Baddiel and Skinner Unplanned, on ITV1, and it won't record the Wednesday showing, because I have V Graham Norton recording on C4.
As V Graham Norton finishes at 22:35, I set a manual recording for Baddiel and Skinner, to start straight after.
My query is, The Sunday repeat of Baddiel And Skinner, is picked up by my SP, even with 1st run only, I don't need it recorded!
Why doesn't the Sunday showing come under the 28-day rule?

[mrtickle]

Radio 7 Listings - I only have placeholder blocks for this channel (BBCR7) after Sat 8th Feb 07:00. Sorry for the late report, I've only just noticed. I expect the BBC are late supplying data again?

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
Service Provider: Sky
Channel Name: DHEALTH
Programme: Taming Toddlers

This series is not marked as such, so cannot set season pass.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by cwaring
Oh. OK. Didn't know that :) Could be why that link showed a different post for Stuart then?

Ah, yes. I have mine set to 40 per page.

[Jim99]

Re: BBCR7:

Yep, late again. Schedule arrived (and was entered) yesterday. Should be with users soon.

Thanks,
Jim

[mrtickle]

Cool, ta :)

[groovyclam]

Genre Fixes:

"Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown" on FILM4W - Add "Spanish"

"High Heels" on SKYCN2 - Add "Spanish"

"The Law of Desire" on FILM4X - Add "Spanish", Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"Will and Grace" on LIVING - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"Art Attack" on DISNEY and DISNEY1 - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Children", Add "Arts and Crafts"

"Ralph Fiennes: Blood Ties" on PERF - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Biopic", Add "Documentary"

"Scrapheap Challenge" on DISCOV and DISC1 - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "DIY"

"Outthere" on FIVE - Remove "Fine Arts", Remove "Chat Show", Remove "Variety", Add "Science Fiction", Add "Horror", Add "Fantasy"

"Smart on the Road" on BBC2 - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Children", Add "Home Improvement", Add "DIY"

"Joy of Painting" on DHL - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Arts and Crafts"

"Lend Me Your Ears" on BBCR4FM - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "History", Add "Documentary"

"Wayang Golek: Puppeteers of West Java" on BBC2 - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Theatre", Add "Music"

"The Next Best Thing" on SKYPR2 - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"The Gay Men's Guide to Safer Sex" on SPICEUK - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"Before Night Falls" on SKYPRW - Add "Gay and Lesbian", Add "Biopic"

"Prick Up Your Ears" on FILMFOUR - Add "Gay and Lesbian", Add "Biopic"

"The Velocity of Gary" on SKYPR2, SKYPR3, SKYPR4 - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"Hedwig and the Angry Inch" on SKYPR - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"The Broken Hearts Club" on SKYPR - Add "Gay and Lesbian"




Request for new genres:

Arts/Literary - there are many programmes to do with books, poetry and the spoken word or reviews of such genres on UK TV and Radio - at the moment these are lumped under "Fine Arts" which is too broad a catch all.

Film/Foreign Language - for any non-English film that does not fall into the "French" or "Spanish" categories.


Request for genre rename:

Can "Biopic" be renamed "Biography"
"Biopic" is confusing - is this meant to mean a "true" documentary or a "dramatised documentary" ? To UK people "Biopic" always inferrs a "dramatised documentary". If "Biopic" was changed to "Biography" this would mean a "true" documentary. If the programme was a docudrama then the "Biography" genre could be placed with the "Drama" ( or "Docudrama" ) genre to clarify the issue.

[sanderton]

> Scrapheap Challenge" on DISCOV and DISC1 - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "DIY"

:) :) :)

[Bones]

Not sure if I should still be posting these here, as TiVo CS have just informed me that the preferred method of reporting schedule errors is to call them :confused: In fact, the representitive went on to say that he's not allowed to discuss this forum, and later said "We don't monitor the forums"!! So, (in light of jim99) someone's not communicating... ?!

Anyway, I have the following schedule errors:

Postcode : SS5
Service Provider : Sky Digital

Eurosport GB (412), 4 Feb 03 @ 1230
TiVo thought it was "Motorcycle Racing"
Actually aired (and reported correctly on Sky EPG) "Live Alpine Skiing"

VH1 (443), 5 Feb 03 @ 2100
TiVo thought it was "Behind The Music : 1981"
Actually aired (and reported correctly on Sky EPG) "Ozzy Ozbourne : Behind The Music"

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Bones
Not sure if I should still be posting these here, as TiVo CS have just informed me that the preferred method of reporting schedule errors is to call them :confused: In fact, the representitive went on to say that he's not allowed to discuss this forum, and later said "We don't monitor the forums"!! So, (in light of jim99) someone's not communicating... ?! The official way is via TiVo CS and TiVo do NOT monitor this thread.

However, Tribune do monitor this thread (unofficially but regularly) and reporting here is the quickest method.

[Bones]

Originally posted by ozsat
The official way is via TiVo CS and TiVo do NOT monitor this thread.

However, Tribune do monitor this thread (unofficially but regularly) and reporting here is the quickest method.

Ah, thanks for that. It makes sense now :)

I shall continue to use the forum. (It's easier than waiting in a que for CS anyway...!)

[Jim99]

Bones,

We (Tribune) do monitor the forum and I appreciate your feedback. I will have someone look into your issues and hopefully we can prevent such errors from happening again.

Thanks,
Jim

[LJ]

Platform: Sky
Channel: 181 Travel Channel
Time: 6th Frb 07:00
Problem:

TiVo thought there was an hour long documentary "Secret world of theme parks" showing - instead it recorded an hour of blue screen and a banner saying "..programmes start at 12.00pm". Oops.

Had a bit more of a look... seems like Travel Channel (181) is on air from 12pm until 1am and Travel Channel 2 (182) is on between 7am and 12pm. TiVo seems to have the full schedule on both channels.

[trevor.appleton]

Haven't got my Tivo yet (comes on Tues now). When Tivo suggests programmes to record is it smart enough to know which satelltie channels you are subscribed to and not offer those channels?

[Jim99]

Re: Travel

A few users have made similar comments. We've tried to obtain an accurate schedule for Travel Channel but nothing has been forthcoming. We will keep trying and hopefully we'll have something in a few days.

Thanks,
Jim

[LJ]

Cool, thanks :)

[sanderton]

Originally posted by trevor.appleton
Haven't got my Tivo yet (comes on Tues now). When Tivo suggests programmes to record is it smart enough to know which satelltie channels you are subscribed to and not offer those channels?

It gives you a complete list of channels and you pick the ones you sub to. But this is OT for this thread.

[Ashley]

Originally posted by trevor.appleton
Haven't got my Tivo yet (comes on Tues now). When Tivo suggests programmes to record is it smart enough to know which satelltie channels you are subscribed to and not offer those channels?

You can go thru' all the channels that TiVo thinks you can receive and select the actual channels that you actually receive.

[Azrikam]

Originally posted by Azrikam
Postcode: W10
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Playboy/Adult
Channel Number: 968
Programme Name: various
Time/Date of airing: Each night
Problem encountered: Guide data has the Adult Channel signing off at 4:00AM each morning, but the channel extended its broadcasting hours to 5:30AM months ago. The guide is basically missing the last hour and a half of programming each night.

This has been fixed now... and fast too! I'm sure all the pervs appreciate it. :D:up:

[sanderton]

Originally posted by Azrikam
This has been fixed now... and fast too! I'm sure all the pervs appreciate it. :D:up:

But TiVo can't record the porn channels (they need your PIN to be entered, so I'm told :)).

[Brownedger]

Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: E! Entertaiment
Number: 250
Time: weekend various
Problem: I have noticed the Saturdays and Sundays so far downloaded all have holes (to be announced) in the schedules.
I reported this for last weekend which was fixed but all subsequent weekends are affected also.:confused:

[Azrikam]

Originally posted by sanderton
But TiVo can't record the porn channels (they need your PIN to be entered, so I'm told :)).

Mine doesn't have a problem with it. I'm a subscriber, though. You probably couldn't record the one-off nightly stuff without setting up your PIN at the beginning of the night. I used to get PIN prompts every time I jumped to Playboy/Adult (a real hassle, indeed), but a recent Sky EPG upgrade sorted this out. Now, I think you only get a new prompt when you reboot.

[Jim99]

E! only releases their schedule for the week we are living in. That is why there are so many TBAs for future weeks. We have contacted this service but have received no answers.

We compared the UK schedule to the domestic US schedule and unfortunately they are not similar in any way.

Hopefully, we can get something more complete in the future.

This would be an easy one for us, all of their programming originates in the US and is currently in our database. If only they would release their schedules....:confused:

[groovyclam]

Jim - can you clarify some questions about genres;

1) Are the same subgenres under a main genre the "same" genre i.e. Will a wishlist for "Film/Spanish" find the same programmes as a wishlist for "Interests/Spanish" if the programmes have the "Spanish" genre - or are "Film/Spanish" and "Interests/Spanish" two different genres altogether ?

2) If you guys correct a genre for a programme, will the correction only show up in future episodes entered *after* the correction took place or would we see retro-corrections appearing for episodes already in listings sent to our TiVo's but not yet screened ?

[sjp]

Postcode: SM3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: Sky One (and probably Sky One Mix)
Number: 106 (& 107)
Programme: Enterprise
Time: Mondays (and Tuesdays) at 8pm

The episodes for the w/c Feb 24th seem to be a repeat of the data from the previous week (w/c Feb 17th). By the looks of the episode guide sites this looks to be the most likely explanation as there does not seem to be any 2 parters coming up.

[Jim99]

Re: Genres

#1) I can't speak on the ins and outs of TiVo's logic. That question would be best answered by TiVoRich (not being evasive, just not 100% sure of the answer.

#2) Once the genre is changed and the show level, the change is applied to all episodes (future and past) in our database.

Hope this helps,
Jim

[Adder]

Platform: BSkyB UK
Postcode: BS7

Programme: CART Racing

Channels: EUROGB MOTORS

Times: Various

Thanks for changing all the genres on Motors from earlier, I think there are a few I didn't spot that need changing, but I'll take a look at those in a while.

Thanks also for deleting the duplicate "CART Racing" series, but please can you rename the series "Champ Car World Series" as this is what the series is now called, see http://www.champcarworldseries.com for more information.

Also on a Motor Racing note:

Platform: BSkyB UK
Postcode: BS7

Channel: FIVE

Name: "NASCAR Busch Series Motor Racing"

Time: 18/2 1.25 am

This is an orphaned series, this should belong in the already created series:
"NASCAR Busch Racing Series"

Thanks.

[digital_S]

Postcode: CT2
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 40
Programme Name: Talking Movies
Date/Time of Airing: Saturdays @ 5:30am, 3:30pm and 10:30pm. Sundays @ 3:30am.
Problem Encountered: Most of these are repeats, so they should be in the 28-day rule!

[Brownedger]

Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky
Channel: Granada plus
118
Date: Saturdays 7.30am
Problem: Three up Two down has a genre of sitcom yet a wishlist of comedy (of which sitcom is a sub genre) does not find it.
Probably needs comedy genre adding to this prog.

[sanderton]

Provider: All
Channel: C4
Date: every day this week
Programme: Hajj: The greatest Journey on earth

This is a series of short programmes, one a day. It is not set up as a series so cannot set season pass.

[csansbury]

Postcode: AB10
Provider: Sky
Channel: BBC1SCO / BBC2SCO
101
Date: Various
Programme: Sportscene
Problem: Incorrectly labelled as sports talk / chat show. This is usually live football, live international football or highlights, and should be labelled accordingly. It is sometimes sports talk, but not usually.

[bduguid]

Just a quick note to say "many thanks" to whoever at Tribune read my recent request for category alterations and sorted them all out! It's much appreciated and does make a big difference to those of us who use the TiVo wishlist functionality.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by groovyclam
Jim - can you clarify some questions about genres;

1) Are the same subgenres under a main genre the "same" genre


I think I can guess at this - answer is yes. "Films" and "interests" are just groupings used for convenience. "Spanish" is genre ID 99 and is the same ID everywhere it appears.


i.e. Will a wishlist for "Film/Spanish" find the same programmes as a wishlist for "Interests/Spanish" if the programmes have the "Spanish" genre - or are "Film/Spanish" and "Interests/Spanish" two different genres altogether ?


However, the groupings have IDs too (eg Films=1006, Interests=1000). Perhaps wishlists use both the grouping and the genre - but this would only work if the guide data contained both. I don't think that the group is stored. I can't check from here what is stored alongside each programme, but I *think* only the genres are stored.

When you look at a programme details screen, underneath the time/date/ on the right does it say "Film/Spanish" or just "Spanish"?

Does a "Search by Title" for Film/Spanish find the same list of titles as Interests/Spanish - I think that it will? If so then a wishlist should behave the same.

HTH

[Bones]

Postcode : SS5
Service Provider : Sky Digital
Channel : Reality TV (241)
Mon 27 Jan 03 @ 00:50
TiVo thought "World Deadliest Storms" was showing.
Actually aired (and shown correctly on Sky EPG) was "Criminal Minds" (finishing at 00:55) followed by "Sky Action Videos".

[groovyclam]

When you look at a programme details screen, underneath the time/date/ on the right does it say "Film/Spanish" or just "Spanish"?

Well, at the moment, Tribune haven't marked anything as "Spanish" ( Film, Interest or whatever ).

I just picked "Spanish" for argument's sake since I noticed it appeared under both "Film" and "Interests"

Perhaps wishlists use both the grouping and the genre - but this would only work if the guide data contained both. I don't think that the group is stored. I can't check from here what is stored alongside each programme, but I *think* only the genres are stored.

Surely groupings must be stored somewhere in the programme info - otherwise how could you specify just "Films" ( without a sub-genre ) in a titlesearch or category wishlist
?

If Tribune do the category changes I requested a while ago, and put the "Spanish" genres I asked for in, then we can check this but in the meantime isn't there another subgenre that we can check that *is* currently being used in some programmes and appears under two group types ?

( I'm surprised this question hasn't come up before ! )

[arndale]

I noticed an earlier post about the Travel Channel starting at 12.00 but the listings starting earlier. I sent an e-mail to them. I thought it may be of some interest to those, (like me), who have record blue screens on it before:

Hello there,

Many thanks for your e-mail.

Further to your e-mail, I can confirm that Travel Channel begins broadcasting at midday on Sky Digital channel 181. Before midday, we now broadcast Travel Deals Direct on channel 182.

We are currently working to rectify the inconsistencies in the published listings, and those on our website, and we do apologise for any inconvenience in the interim period.

Kind regards,

Esther Pye
Marketing Executive
Travel Channel

[SimonG]

Postcode : RH10
Service Provider : Sky Digital
Channel : QVC (630)
Times: All



Programme data is missing completely for this channel. This happens every copuple of weeks and I have to 'phone CS. It is missing now.

[B33K34]

BBCChoice/BBC Three
Multiple programmes - including: 3 Non Blondes, Monkey Dust.
No episode information so that Season Passes pick up the same edition of the show > once.

[nickchristie]

Postcode: W13
Provider: NTL Digital ex-CWC
Channel: Discovery Wings, 805
Date: Friday 14/2 and Friday 21/2
Programme: Celebrity Wings

Shown each Friday at 18:30, repeated at 21:30 (Fri) and 00:30 (Sat).
No programme details for the first two showings, but third showing is correct. Since episode data is not correct, not obeying 28-day rule.
NB: Programme schedule on Discovery Wings website has 'No programme details' for most of Fri 14/2 and 21/2 (despite advertising this programme on the very same page), so this may be their fault.

Nick

[ozsat]

Originally posted by groovyclam
Well, at the moment, Tribune haven't marked anything as "Spanish" ( Film, Interest or whatever ). It may be that it is used on TVE Internacional - which possibly is not on your platform.

You TiVo will only contain programme details for the channels on your selected platform.

[mrtickle]

I've just tried this with "chat show" using search by title/daytime/chat show. It returned a list with the first one "analysis" on Radio 4. The tivo UI shows this as just the genre "chat show" - so does tivoweb.

But! Browsing the MFS object in tivoweb, it contains
106 (genre "chat show"), 1003 (group "Daytime"), 1010 (group "chat shows"). So, it seems that the groups are indeed stored with the programme data - or at least they can be - but they are not displayed.
link: http://tivo/object/501147/-1 for people with tivoweb.

The same programme is found if you do a title search for the group "chat shows" with no sub-genre, even though "chat show" is NOT in that group! This suggests to me it found it via the group code 1010. And, if you search Educational/Chat show it finds it again - even though group 1012 (Educational) isn't in the data for that programme - so it finds it via the genre. So I was wrong before, the groups aren't just for convenience they can be used in the data too.

HTH!

ps I have no matches for Spanish in my Sky lineup either

[manolan]

I assume Spanish is more of interest in the US, where Spanish is the second language in many places (actually the first in some) and there are whole Spanish language channels.

[mrtickle]

Yep. I think French and Spanish at the only languages, as commonly found on R1 DVDs - the only UK language available is English.

[pauldoc]

Hollyoaks

Hi all,

This by request of my daughter ...

The Hollyoaks omnibus on Sundays seems to be in two versions: the normal one on C4 terrestrial, and one with a signing lady for the deaf on C4 via Freeview.

TiVo, of course, will always record from Freeview.

Other than unticking C4 (cab) in "Channels You Receive" and ticking C4 (aer) instead, is there any way to get it to record the non-signed version? The signing lady is driving my daughter mad! (I don't want to tick/untick, because then it'll record everything from C4 (aer) and I want most C4 recordings to be in widescreen, thus need them via Freeview.)

Also I note I have two BBC2s -- two copies of every BBC2 program in the guide data, for example. How does that come about? It would actually be useful if C4 was like that.

Any ideas?

[sanderton]

The freeview version on DTT should be identical to the terrestrial, is it possible a signed version is broadcast late at night and TiVo is be picking up that one?

You must have both versions of BBC 2 selected in Channels I Recieve?

[Paj]

It's worth noting that, even if you did have both versions of channel 4 in your lineup, TiVo would plump for the higher channel number (which presumably would be Freeview). You cannot tell it to record from terrestrial without removing the other channel from the lineup (that's in the FAQ).

But I tend to share Stuart's confusion that the Freeview showing should be different to a terrestrial episode shown at the same time.

[kitschcamp]

No confussion at all - the channels on digital tv has a legal requirement to broadcast a certain percentage of programs each week that are signed.

This obligation only exists for digital terrestrial. Sometimes, for broadcasting ease, the same is broadcast on satellite and cable. The version on analogue is usually not signed.

A few years back there was a huge stink with UK Gold broadcasting Blakes 7 and UK Gold with the "flappy arm woman" in the corner every Saturday and Sunday to the point where it was moved to Neighbours instead.

[cwaring]

I noticed that the standard RF (ie non-DTT) version of five had signing on the lunch-time repeat of "Family Affairs" yesterday.

[pauldoc]

Yes, I do have both versions of BBC2 (BBC2 and BBC2 London) ticked. I realised that must be it as soon as I'd posted. Obvious, of course. I guess the difference is that sometimes there are "Regional Programmes" which might vary between the two channels? I think I'll untick one of them, thanks.

Pretty sure that Hollyoaks broadcast at the same time on Sunday morning does vary between analogue and DTT -- one signed, one not.

[sanderton]

Learn something new every day!

It would be a useful feature for the future (!) for TiVo to know about signed stuff so that people who are deaf could choose to prefer that version, and those who aren't could avoid it!

(I find on some signed programmes, you can use the TV's zoom function to largely remove the person).

[pauldoc]

It would be a useful feature for the future (!) for TiVo to know about signed stuff so that people who are deaf could choose to prefer that version, and those who aren't could avoid it!

Yes indeed.

I'll try the zoom trick, thanks.

[pauldoc]

TiVo would plump for the higher channel number (which presumably would be Freeview)

I thought that had changed in 2.5.5 and it now preferred digital over analogue, regardless of channel number?

C4 DTT is on 4, C4 analogue is on (from memory) 30.

[sanderton]

I think it prefers the SCART input over RF, regardless of number.

[bobnick]

The problem with Tribune is that it only has one description for each programme - even if the episodes are broadcast slightly diferently.
This means when the BBC broadcast a show twice on dtt, once signed, once unsigned, then tribune has to give both showings the same description. Many's a time I've sat down to watch a programme with [signing] in the description, only to find it was just the normal plain episode.
Last night I was watching a programme on BBC 3 that tivo had described as 'BBC 3 on BBC1', which is another sign of the problem.

Channel 4 always show signing on the hollyoaks dtt omnibus; it's nice to see a broadcaster taking its obligations seriously, rather than shunting the programmes off to the middle of the night. Likewise with News 24 at 1pm.

[Paj]

Originally posted by sanderton
I think it prefers the SCART input over RF, regardless of number.

That's right. I was assuming we all have similar numbering, which of course we don't.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by bobnick
The problem with Tribune is that it only has one description for each programme - even if the episodes are broadcast slightly diferently.
This means when the BBC broadcast a show twice on dtt, once signed, once unsigned, then tribune has to give both showings the same description. Many's a time I've sat down to watch a programme with [signing] in the description, only to find it was just the normal plain episode.


Yes. It's a bit of a can of worms - how should this work with the 28-day rule, for example. Do we want the signed showing to be treated as a different "episode", so that tivo tries to record both of them? And possibly prevent something else being recorded? (this would be the ONLY way in the current design for the signed and unsigned showings to be marked as different - either as text or flags [if flags were added and a software upgrade done])

Or do we want them both to be treated as the same "episode", and not be bothered whether we end up with a recording of the signed version or a recording of the normal version, depending on other clashes?

In some ways the two broadcasts are different, in other ways they are the same... big problem!

At the moment this only affects a few of my own programmes (Panorama, Horizon etc). I find the repeats in the middle of the night useful to get around clashes, even though they are signed, and as they are not drama I'm happy that they are treated as duplicates. But I might feel the opposite for other series! Not easy.

[bobnick]

Well, I think most people would be fairly happy for everything to have the same ID code (I don't want two copies of the same programme being recorded each week), but if Tribune fixed the problem of having one description for every showing of an epiosde, wishlists could be used for people who only wanted signed programmes, and those who didn't want any at all.

Also, how many descriptions have 'Another chance to see...' on the first showing of the programme? If there can only be one description per episode, would it not be best to have the first show's description as opposed to the last showing? That way we don't get the [signing] description on shows that don't have it, and shows that do have signing will not have [not signed] on it, so it'd be correct there too.

[AMc]

Hollyoaks recorder - I believe if you set a manual recording on C4 Aerial for Holyoaks i.e. explicitly select it in the LiveTV guide and tell it to record it that will override the SCART over RF. I'm pretty sure I've done this by accident and been puzzled by RF recordings of one offs.
Failing that a timed manual recording on C4 Aerial might work.

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong :)

[sanderton]

Originally posted by bobnick
Well, I think most people would be fairly happy for everything to have the same ID code (I don't want two copies of the same programme being recorded each week), but if Tribune fixed the problem of having one description for every showing of an epiosde, wishlists could be used for people who only wanted signed programmes, and those who didn't want any at all.

Also, how many descriptions have 'Another chance to see...' on the first showing of the programme? If there can only be one description per episode, would it not be best to have the first show's description as opposed to the last showing? That way we don't get the [signing] description on shows that don't have it, and shows that do have signing will not have [not signed] on it, so it'd be correct there too.

AFAIK, the decriptions are intimately linked to the episode IDson a one-to-one mapping - ie, the description is simply looked up in a DB from the ID, so it is impossible to have the same ID and two decriptions. Series IDs certainly work like that.

I'm guessing that the "repeat" description is the one that shows as it has overwritten the original entry in the DB!

Re: signing, what is needed is a flag for "Signed" which sit alongside the episode ID. In the SP setup you would then have options to Record Only Signed/Never record Signed/Prefer Signed/Prefer Non-Signed/Not bothered and when the scheduler runs it could look for alternative Signed/Non-Signed showings and schedule according to preference.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by sanderton

I'm guessing that the "repeat" description is the one that shows as it has overwritten the original entry in the DB!

Yep, I think that's right; and i think it would be better to keep the original descrption, rather than overwrite it (see my above message!)

[Adder]

Originally posted by Adder
Platform: BSkyB UK
Postcode: BS7

Channel: FIVE

Name: "NASCAR Busch Series Motor Racing"

Time: 18/2 1.25 am

This is an orphaned series, this should belong in the already created series:
"NASCAR Busch Racing Series"

Thanks.

The show is now called "NASCAR Busch Racing Series", BUT it does NOT appear in a "View Upcoming Episodes" and I still have a "NASCAR Busch Series Motor Racing" in "Search by title" that causes an "Internal Error" when I try and view its details.

"An internal error occurred."

"The error occurred in the FindActions context."
"Error code: UpdateData failed after surf"

Can someone else check this?

[Adder]

I have forced another daily call and it seems to have fixed the issue with the above post.


I now have spotted a new problem though:

Platform: BSkyB

Postcode: BS7

Channel: 416 MOTORS

Problem:

From 7am this Saturday 15/2 the TiVo listings bare no resemblence to those on the Motors TV website, those times advertised by the TV channel itself, those on the Sky EPG or Digiguide. All of the other sources agree on the same schedule.

Can this be checked out as there are only 2 days of correct listings left?

[pauldoc]

Hollyoaks recorder - I believe if you ... explicitly select it in the LiveTV guide and tell it to record it that will override the SCART over RF.

Failing that a timed manual recording on C4 Aerial might work.

Thanks, I'll try those and report back. Not optimistic though -- selecting from "live guide", channel 30, and then checking in "to do" shows that it's planning to record it from channel 4 ...

[sjp]

Postcode: SM3
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: DHL and DHL+1
Channel Number: 133 and 134
Programme Name: Late-Night Poker
Time/Date of airing: Saturday March 1st at 11pm and midnight.

The big, £45k hour'an'a'half, final game is not being picked up by the weekly "heats" season pass, possibly because it has a different programme title. Noticed this yesterday so apologies if it was corrected last night.

Gary will not be happy if he misses the final so be warned :D

[sanderton]

Originally posted by bobnick
Yep, I think that's right; and i think it would be better to keep the original descrption, rather than overwrite it (see my above message!)

The only prob is that the first episode of every series would be "New Series" for all time!

[B33K34]

Postcode: SW2
Service Provider: NTL CoCo
Channel Name: itv
Channel Number: 3
Programme Name: Re-living Michael Jackson
Time/Date of airing: 12/2/03 7pm

anyone know what happened here - it was in my tv guide, on Tivo's guide and i thought it was trailed as well but Ananova now shows ep1 of Facelift diaries in that slot, which is what TiVo recorded.

[Paj]

Well, it was nearly right, then!

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by sanderton
AFAIK, the decriptions are intimately linked to the episode IDson a one-to-one mapping - ie, the description is simply looked up in a DB from the ID, so it is impossible to have the same ID and two decriptions. Series IDs certainly work like that.


I think that the case too.


I'm guessing that the "repeat" description is the one that shows as it has overwritten the original entry in the DB!


Yep. This used to happen with Corrie on itv1/2. the episode descriptions had something like "shown on ITV1 last Wednesday", intended for the ITV2 repeats, but this then appears in all showings of that episode - including the original on itv1. If ITV send the data in that format, whichever descriptions is imported last seems to overwrite the earlier one. But I'd rather that than have them being split into two episodes!


Re: signing, what is needed is a flag for "Signed" which sit alongside the episode ID. In the SP setup you would then have options to Record Only Signed/Never record Signed/Prefer Signed/Prefer Non-Signed/Not bothered and when the scheduler runs it could look for alternative Signed/Non-Signed showings and schedule according to preference.

Yep. A major change though (database and software) The existing flags (CC, subtitles, Stereo, etc) are probably all set for the episode once, like the description. It would need flags per broadcast of each episode. One for the future, especially if TiVo get serious about the rest of Europe with multiple languages/subtitling of programmes.

[dallardice]

Originally posted by B33K34

Programme Name: Re-living Michael Jackson
Time/Date of airing: 12/2/03 7pm

anyone know what happened here.

Late programme change - appeared in the Radio Times email yesterday.

[cwaring]

Radio Times has been told of some schedule changes that we thought you might like to know about. The changes are for Friday 14 to Tuesday 18 February on various channels.
______________________________________________

FRIDAY 14 FEBRUARY

BBC2 afternoon schedule changes

1:00pm Ski Sunday Special - as billed
1:50pm Film: The Americano
3:15pm News Special: Iraq Crisis
4:30pm Ready Steady Cook - as billed

Living Famously: Marlene Dietrich will now be shown on 17 February and Rancho Notorious on 11 March.
______________________________________________

BBC2 late-night/early-morning schedule changes

10:30pm Newsnight - as scheduled
11:10pm Newsnight Review - was 11:00pm
11:45pm A Simple Twist of Fate - was 11:35pm
1:25am Buffy the Vampire Slayer - was 1:15am
2:05am Ceefax Pages
3:00am BBC Learning Zone: National Test Revision - as scheduled

Please note that BBC2 Wales is not affected by these changes.
__________________________________________

BBC1 late-night/early-morning schedule changes

12:10am Six Nations Preview - as scheduled
12:45am BBC3 Zone: 3 Non-Blondes - was 12:40am
1:20am Film: Carry on Loving - was 1:25am
2:45am BBC News 24 - was 2:50am

Please note that BBC1 Wales is not affected by these changes.
______________________________________________

ITV1 Ulster evening schedule changes

9:00pm Kelly: St Valentine's Day Special - now 60 minutes long
10:00pm The Way They Were
11:00pm ITV Weekend News

Tarrant on TV 2003 at 10:30pm will no longer be showing.
______________________________________________

Channel 4 evening schedule changes

7:00pm Channel 4 News
7:50pm Hajj: the Greatest Trip on Earth

Unreported World at 7:20pm will no longer be showing.
______________________________________________

SATURDAY 15 FEBRUARY

BBC1 time changes

6:05pm BBC News - extended by five minutes
6:30pm Total Comic Relief - was 6:25pm
7:30pm EastEnders - Mark Fowler's Story - was 7:25pm
8:10pm The National Lottery - Jet Set - was 8:05pm
8:45pm Casualty: Hitting Home - was 8:40pm
9:35pm BBC News - was 9:30pm
9:55pm The Truman Show - was - 9:50pm
11:30pm Match of the Day - was 11:25pm
12:30am Sling Blade - was 12:25am
2:35am They Think It's All Over - was 2:30am
3:05am A Question of Sport - was 3:00am
3:35am Patrick Kielty Almost Live - was 3:30am
4:15am Top of the Pops - was 4:10am
4:45am Joins BBC News 24 - was 4:40am
_____________________________________________

Channel 4 late-night/early-morning schedule changes

12:40am V Graham Norton - Look Back - was 12:35am
1:40am Meet the Magoons - was 1:35am
2:00am In the Bleak Midwinter - as scheduled
3:40am Drifting - was 3:35am
3:50am For Your Love: the Girl Most Likely to...
3:55am Still Life - a Shooting Gallery short
4:10am For Your Love: the Girl Most Likely to...
4:35am For Your Love: the Ex-Files - was 4:10am
5:00am Zen and the Art of Landscaping

For Your Love: the Trouble with Angels will no longer be showing.
______________________________________________

SUNDAY 16 FEBRUARY

There are no major schedule changes for Sunday 16 February.
_______________________________________________

MONDAY 17 FEBRUARY

Sky 1 late-night/early-morning schedule changes

2:40am Time Gentlemen Please: a Woman's Place - replaces The Villa
3:05am Time Gentlemen Please: Never Confused
3:30am Time Gentlemen Please: Hoppy Birthday
3:55am Crash Palace - was 3:30am
4:20am Hotter Sex - was 3:55am
5:10am Guilty! - as scheduled

Dirty Money at 4:45am will no longer be showing.
____________________________________________

TUESDAY 18 FEBRUARY

ITV1 late-night/early-morning schedule changes

2:05am Champions' League: Bayer Leverkusen v Newcastle United - as scheduled
3:40am World Sport - was 3:45am
4:10am ITV Nightscreen - was 4:15am
5:30am ITV Morning News - as scheduled
______________________________________________

Sky 1 late-night/early-morning schedule changes

2:40am Time Gentlemen Please: Monkey's Uncle - replaces The Villa
3:05am Time Gentlemen Please: King Barstewards
3:30am Time Gentlemen Please: Date with Destiny
3:55am Crash Palace - was 3:30am
4:20am Police Videos - was 3:55am
5:10am Guilty! - as scheduled

Dirty Money at 4:45am will no longer be showing.
______________________________________________

Kind regards,

Radio Times
http://www.radiotimes.beeb.com/content/schedule_updates/

[Adder]

Still no MOTORS listings :(

Platform: BSkyB UK

Channel 416 MOTORS

Time: 7am Sat 15/2 onwards

Programmes: _ALL_

I posted this much earlier, from 7am tomorrow morning Motors TV listings are entirely wrong. Please, please, please, please get some correct listings!

Correct listings example here:

http://www.motorstv.com/index3.php3?inc=http://www.motorstv.com/grille.php3?epok_act=1045263600

[Jim99]

Re: Motors

I'd just like to quickly say that your post has not gone unnoticed. I have been in contact with the agency responsible for producing the listings for Motors and they still have not provided us with anything past today. I am very sorry for this problem as I understand how popular this channel (and motorsports in general) are with TiVo users. I am hopeful that this problem will be rectifed soon.

Thank you for your continued patience.


>>Result. Just heard that Motors schedules are on the way. We will get this updated ASAP.

[Adder]

Thanks for your note Jim, Motors NASCAR Busch coverage starts this week and the motor sport season is about to kick into action.

[Jim99]

See my edited post, we should have the correct listings soon.

No need to remind me about NASCAR, its all over the news here. I don't fancy stock car racing myself but my fiancee's parents live about 35 miles from Daytona.

[Adder]

YAY! Thanks very much Jim! It is hugely appreciated, most of my recordings and suggestions come from Motors. ;)

[Jim99]

Schedule received through 15 March. We'll get it in as quickly as we can.

[sjp]

Stargate SG-1
Current season showing on Sky One

Actor info for new chap (Corin Nemec) missing from data - Current season due to finish soon, inclusion of Corin Nemec in actor list would allow a keyword wishlist including his name to help thin out all the previous seasons currently re-running.

tia

[cwaring]

Originally posted by sjp
Stargate SG-1
Current season showing on Sky One

Actor info for new chap (Corin Nemec) missing from data - Current season due to finish soon, inclusion of Corin Nemec in actor list would allow a keyword wishlist including his name to help thin out all the previous seasons currently re-running.

tia

As Sky One will be re-running this newest Season immediately after the S5 week-day re-runs, sorting this ASAP would be good :)

[Brownedger]

Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: E Entertainment
Number: 250
Date: Weekend various
Problem: This channel still has a problem with many gaps in the weekend listings for this week and future weeks.

[ramma]

Platform: BSkyB UK

Channel 127 Paramount
Date: too often
Programmes: The Micallef Programme & Shock Jock, 3rd rock from the sun.

I have a season pass for the above shows and mainly at the weekends but sometimes during the week as well, its hit and miss if it records TMP & SJ sometimes thinking that one program is the other.

Third Rock doesnt record if ive got the first run only setting but it used to work. The only way to get it to record the first showing is by using the first run and repeat option thus recording both showings. I have noticed that generic data is being used for all episodes at the moment.

[gregh]

I hope this hasn't been discussed recently, I've been out of the country, and set Tivo up to record 24 from BBC choice using a SP. I'm just back and it doesn't appear to have recorded the 1st episode, but I've manually fixed that (assuming episode one of the new series is Day 2: 8-9am).

Now on the 23/2 at 10:40pm on BBC3 it shows the program title as 10:00am-11:00am which I assume is the 3rd episode of the new series, however the SP isn't picking it up to record.

This is on Sky Digital.

regards

Greg

[mrtickle]

Yes - that's one of the errors I spotted too.


All of the errors I can find this week relate to data supplied by the BBC.


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Three (BBC2)
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: 24
Time/Date of airing: Sun 23rd Feb 22:40

This has the episode title, ep number, and UK OAD (so FRO won't work!) of the 11th episode of season 1, "10:00AM - 11:00AM" instead of the 3rd episode of season 2, "Day 2: 10:00AM - 11:00AM". I haven't check the synopsis, and I'm not going to as it probably contains spoilers (they did last time), but I suspect that's wrong too.

(Very disappointed that 24 still doesn't use the 24 hour clock! but I know this isn't Tribune's fault!)


--------------

Previously reported Dec 2002, not fixed :(

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two (BBC2, BBC2SCD, BBC2WD, BBC2NID), BBC Seven (BBCR7)
Channel Number: (102, 960, 961, 962)
Programme Name: Room 101
Time/Date of airing: Tue 18th Feb 00:00

I have a season pass set up last year (http://tivo/series/334184 on tivoweb).
"Room 101", the same series, has been put into the wrong series id (http://tivo/series/40796) for both BBC2 and Radio 7.
Please fix and put back in the original SP!


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two (BBC2, BBC2SCD, BBC2WD, BBC2NID), BBC One (BBC1), BBC Four (BBC4), UK Horizons (UKHRZ), UK Horizons+1 (UKHRZ1)
Channel Number: (102, 960, 961, 962), 101, 161, 564, 565
Programme Name: Horizon
Time/Date of airing: Thurs 21:00 BBC2, re-run the following Wed 02:20ish BBC1

The series IDs used for season passes have gone wrong again! :(

The correct original series ID is 3292 - http://tivo/series/3292 on tivoweb. At present only the BBC1 re-runs are present in this group.

The BBC2 First Runs have been split off into a new rogue series ID, 666108 (http://tivo/series/666108). Please can these be put back into the original SP?

Why does this keep happening over and over :( :(

2nd problem - there is no episodic guide data for the BBC1 re-runs.


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Four (BBC4)
Channel Number: 161
Programme Name: The DVD Collection
Time/Date of airing: Fridays 20:30, re-run Saturdays 00:00, 22:35

Episode data for this programme is slipping into generic data :(

Fri 21st Feb 20:30 - ok
Sat 22nd Feb 00:00 - ok
Sat 22nd Feb 22:35 - WRONG, this should be a duplicate of Fri 21st Feb 20:30

Fri 28th Feb 20:30 - ok
Sat 1st Mar 00:00 - WRONG - and isn't marked as an episode either!! :(

Please can this be looked at, it would be a shame to lose episodic data after it was hard to get the first time!


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Radio Four (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: The News Quiz
Time/Date of airing: Fridays 18:30, re-run Saturdays 12:30

MISSING FROM GUIDE DATA:
Sat 22nd Feb 12:30
Sat 1st Mar 12:30


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Radio Four (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: Just a Minute
Time/Date of airing: Mondays 18:30, re-run Sundays 12:30

MISSING FROM GUIDE DATA:
Sun 23rd Feb 12:30

Mon 24th Feb 18:30
Sun 1nd Mar 12:30

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by sjp
Stargate SG-1
Current season showing on Sky One

Actor info for new chap (Corin Nemec) missing from data - Current season due to finish soon, inclusion of Corin Nemec in actor list would allow a keyword wishlist including his name to help thin out all the previous seasons currently re-running.

tia

Yes. This data will be wrong in the US database too so will need fixing there also.

Picking an episode at random it contains actors:
Richard Dean Anderson, Michael Shanks, Amanda Tapping, Christopher Judge, Don S. Davis, Teryl Rothery, Peter Williams, Vaitiare Bandera, Alexis Cruz

For me another problem is that "Michael Shanks" is listed in every episode, even though he does NOT appear in many episodes this season. Tivo usually only shows the first four, and he is picked as one of those four! :(

[Bones]

Postcode : SS5
Provider : Sky Digital
Channel : 440 MTVUK

Fri 14/02 @ 2330
TiVo thought "Jackass" was showing
Actually aired (and reported correctly on Sky EPG) was "NME Awards 2003"

Sat 15/02 @ 0130
TiVo thought "Jackass" was showing
Actually aired (and reported correctly on Sky EPG) was "Valentines Day Music Masacre"

Also, for some time now, a Season Pass set to record only First Showings of Jackass is picking up every episode which, at the moment, is nothing but repeats :(

[Bones]

Originally posted by gregh
I hope this hasn't been discussed recently, I've been out of the country, and set Tivo up to record 24 from BBC choice using a SP. I'm just back and it doesn't appear to have recorded the 1st episode, but I've manually fixed that (assuming episode one of the new series is Day 2: 8-9am).

Now on the 23/2 at 10:40pm on BBC3 it shows the program title as 10:00am-11:00am which I assume is the 3rd episode of the new series, however the SP isn't picking it up to record.

Greg,

Not an expert on these things, but I've found the same as you.

The first episode "Day 2: 8-9am" was not shown on BBC3, it was only aired on BBC2.

I therefore set up a SP for BBC2 and another for BBC3 (BBC2 higher priority than BBC3). TiVo therefore decided to record Episode1 on BBC2, skip EP2 on BBC3, record EP2 on BBC2, skip EP3 on BBC3, etc.

I guess it's because the BBC2 SP has chosen what it wants to record, leaving the BBC3 SP to mop up any stragglers that escape the BBC2 SP.

[Adder]

Motors TV again

Platform: BSkyB UK
Channel: 416 MOTORS

Time: 7am Sunday 23/2

Jim, I thought you had received the schedule for a month?

The schedule is right up until the last programme on Saturday of this upcoming weekend then the schedule becomes a total work of fiction from 7am on Sunday morning.

It's quite easy to spot a dud schedule as MOTORS have recently changed their Shopping time slots.
At the weekends Shopping is 7.30am-10.30am and during the week it is 10am-1pm.

The "dud" schedule that keeps turning up is from the week commencing January 19th, I can spot it a mile off now. ;)

[sanderton]

Originally posted by Bones
I therefore set up a SP for BBC2 and another for BBC3 (BBC2 higher priority than BBC3). TiVo therefore decided to record Episode1 on BBC2, skip EP2 on BBC3, record EP2 on BBC2, skip EP3 on BBC3, etc.

I guess it's because the BBC2 SP has chosen what it wants to record, leaving the BBC3 SP to mop up any stragglers that escape the BBC2 SP.

Yes, TiVo will always prefer to record from the higher priority SP, even if that means recording an episode broadcast later. Move the BBC 3 SP above the BBC 2 one to get the effect you want.

[bignoise]

Originally posted by ramma
Third Rock doesnt record if ive got the first run only setting but it used to work. The only way to get it to record the first showing is by using the first run and repeat option thus recording both showings. I have noticed that generic data is being used for all episodes at the moment.
None of the episodes of 3rd Rock are first run, either in the UK or even on Paramount. They've all been shown before, so a first run only season pass should indeed record nothing at all.

[bignoise]

Originally posted by bobnick
The problem with Tribune is that it only has one description for each programme - even if the episodes are broadcast slightly diferently.
Which is presumably the same reason why programme descriptions on BBC1 England, for example, often say things like "Followed by Newsline" (Northern Ireland's news programme). :-)

[mrtickle]

Yes, it is. The broadcasters don't understand the need for nice neat data destined for a database. Some of them seem to treat listings as free-flowing text which will only be read from top to bottom in broadcast order, never to be used anywhere else :rolleyes: :(

[bobnick]

Just a few problems have cropped up recently, so if you've got a chance Jim, can you check:

BBC London news is coming up now and again as BBC Regional News - it always used to say London, so my SP isn't picking it up. Is it going to consistently stay as regional news from now on?
Also, American Idol is being tivo'd a couple of times a week, when in fact there is only one block of new programming a week.

thanks

[Gavin]

Postcode: cm19
Provider: NTL Digital
Date: Various (but definatly yesterday 18th feb 2003)
Channel : MTV
Number: 406 ( I think!!)
Problem: The Osbournes

The one shown yesterday was a repeat, but it was recorded, I think they show the new onesb Wednesday only (at least thats what the MTV site seems to say, but maybe sunday too) but Tivo thought this one was new. Tivo is set to record FRO and keep 5 eps'. We also delete them after watching (only way to keep track of something thats repeated so many times), but it's already recorded this one last week so it shouldn';t have as it's not FRO and in the 28 day windows, so I can only assume the OAD numbers are mixed up somewhere.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by bobnick
Just a few problems have cropped up recently, so if you've got a chance Jim, can you check:

BBC London news is coming up now and again as BBC Regional News - it always used to say London, so my SP isn't picking it up. Is it going to consistently stay as regional news from now on?
Also, American Idol is being tivo'd a couple of times a week, when in fact there is only one block of new programming a week.

thanks
I've noticed a few of the regional slots being scheduled as "Regional Program" recently.

[ozsat]

All the regional news on BBC1 (in England) say "Regional News" - except BBC1LDN which previously did say "London News"

[cwaring]

Another 'regional' problem.

BBC2NTH

For Sunday 23nd Feb- should be:

1:00pm: The Super League Show. Harry Gration and Garry Schofield with action from Super League VIII's first weekend, including Huddersfield Giants v Warrington.

But is listing as "Dermot's Sporting Buddies" - which is only on in other BBC2 regions.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by cwaring
Another 'regional' problem.

BBC2NTH

For Sunday 23nd Feb- should be:

1:00pm: The Super League Show. Harry Gration and Garry Schofield with action from Super League VIII's first weekend, including Huddersfield Giants v Warrington.

But is listing as "Dermot's Sporting Buddies" - which is only on in other BBC2 regions. This is a problem for viewers in the North, North East and North West regions.

Hopefully the correct listings can be provided and not just replaced with a 'Regional Variations' tag.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by ozsat
All the regional news on BBC1 (in England) say "Regional News" - except BBC1LDN which previously did say "London News"

Do we know if the change was intentional? Why not just rename London news, or even just leave it as it is? I've got far too many SP's so want to cut down as much as possible - if I replace my LDN Season pass with a Regional News one, will all be well?

Also Jim, the show 'Relocation, Relocation' on channel 4 last night was called 'Relocation, Relocation, Relocation' on Tivo; it may be a better title, but it's not right! Please can you rename it before the database creates a whole new series called 'Relocation, Relocation'.

Thanks!

[ozsat]

I would personally like to see full regional BBC listings - its only a few programmes a week.

Especially where the variations are more than just news.

[Jim99]

A regional news SP should get all news broadcasts on your BBC1-2 regional channels. I'm not sure why the London specific title disappeared, I'll have to check into that. Regional news will be there for now.

"Relocation, Relocation" has been amended.

[Jim99]

We will always try to provide correct schedules when regional channels are different than the main channel but the whole regional news naming convention is a pretty low priority.

We will add the rugby programme for the BBC2 regions listed.

Wouldn't want anyone to miss that! :D

[ozsat]

WWE Raw - became WWE Late Night Raw - a few weeks ago. This looked static so I deleted the old WWE Late Night Raw SP's.

But they have gone back to WWE Raw on TiVo now - so I have to re-do all the SPs - again :(

[bobnick]

Originally posted by Jim99
A regional news SP should get all news broadcasts on your BBC1-2 regional channels. I'm not sure why the London specific title disappeared, I'll have to check into that. Regional news will be there for now.

"Relocation, Relocation" has been amended.

Thanks for that; London news (or LDN as it should be) comes back as a title next week, so I haven't deleted that SP. It'd be great if the news would remain as London news from now on (or at least uses its Series ID code).

[warrenrb]

Postcode: BT4
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 400
Programme Name: Seinfeld
Time/Date of airing: N/A

The titles of the all the Seinfeld episodes are about 4 episodes out of sync. i.e. Tonight's episode, described as 'The Bottle Deposit' was actually 'The Friars Club'. This is reported correctly on the Paramount Website, and also Digiguide.

There is also another 2 episodes upcoming on Tivo, tomorrow and Friday, called 'The Bottle Deposit' - this was a two-part episode. The first part is actually due to air on Paramount on Monday 24th Feb.

http://www.paramountcomedy.com/whatson/off_sched_up_s.asp?strProgram=SEINFELD

It seems to 'reset' back into sync on the 3rd March.

Regards,
Warren.

[groovyclam]

I posted these genre fixes a while back and they still haven't been done:

"Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown" on FILM4W - Add "Spanish"

"High Heels" on SKYCN2 - Add "Spanish"

"The Law of Desire" on FILM4X - Add "Spanish", Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"Will and Grace" on LIVING - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"Art Attack" on DISNEY and DISNEY1 - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Children", Add "Arts and Crafts"

"Ralph Fiennes: Blood Ties" on PERF - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Biopic", Add "Documentary"

"Scrapheap Challenge" on DISCOV and DISC1 - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "DIY"

"Outthere" on FIVE - Remove "Fine Arts", Remove "Chat Show", Remove "Variety", Add "Science Fiction", Add "Horror", Add "Fantasy"

"Smart on the Road" on BBC2 - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Children", Add "Home Improvement", Add "DIY"

"Joy of Painting" on DHL - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Arts and Crafts"

"Lend Me Your Ears" on BBCR4FM - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "History", Add "Documentary"

"Wayang Golek: Puppeteers of West Java" on BBC2 - Remove "Fine Arts", Add "Theatre", Add "Music"

"The Next Best Thing" on SKYPR2 - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"The Gay Men's Guide to Safer Sex" on SPICEUK - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"Before Night Falls" on SKYPRW - Add "Gay and Lesbian", Add "Biopic"

"Prick Up Your Ears" on FILMFOUR - Add "Gay and Lesbian", Add "Biopic"

"The Velocity of Gary" on SKYPR2, SKYPR3, SKYPR4 - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"Hedwig and the Angry Inch" on SKYPR - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"The Broken Hearts Club" on SKYPR - Add "Gay and Lesbian"

"Two Fat Ladies" on UKFOOD currently has "Cookery", "DIY" and "Sitcom" genres - it should only have "Cookery".

"Sebastiaine", "Head On" and "Pink Narcissus" on FILM4X should all have the new "Lesbian and Gay" genre added.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Jim99
We will always try to provide correct schedules when regional channels are different than the main channel but the whole regional news naming convention is a pretty low priority.

We will add the rugby programme for the BBC2 regions listed.

Wouldn't want anyone to miss that! :D The rugby bit is now listing as it should :)

[ozsat]

Hopefully TiVo/Tribune will get this in time - but if not you have been warned!

It is for SKYONE on Monday 24th February

21.00 THE MICHAEL JACKSON INTERVIEW: THE FOOTAGE YOU WERE NEVER MEANT TO SEE - Exclusively first on Sky One, catch Michael Jackson's eagerly-awaited rebuttal to journalist Martin Bashir’s documentary, Living With Michael Jackson. Footage from Jackson's own cameras shows what happened when Bashir's cameras weren't rolling, giving viewers the chance to decide: did Bashir betray Jackson's trust, or did he tell it like it is? Tune in and see if a different picture is painted of Michael Jackson in this new documentary - as Jackson himself believes will be the case.

[ozsat]

The "Tyson" Boxing on Sky Box Office on Saturday night/Sunday morning - is on for six hours (12am-6am). If using TiVo you'll currently need to manual set the times.

[Gavin]

Postcode: cm19
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Discovery +1
Channel Number: 501
Programme Name: Remote Maddness
Time/Date of airing: Thurs 20/2 4:30 and fri 21/2 8:30

Says no information available and it recorded both showings but it's the same episode. Tivo is set to repeats and FRO but it shouldn't be recording the same one..

22/2 Edit
It's done it again, 22/2 10:30 AM Same thing, this is the 2rd time it's repeated and the third time Tivo's recorded it.

Again the Guide says No Information Available.

[falcon44]

Postcode: PE29
Provider: Sky
Channel Name: Sky 1
Programme Name: Poker Million Masters
Time/Date of airing: 21/2 10pm and repeated 22/2 2am

These disagree with Sky's own EPG timings. They were wrong last week too, I ended up with Wrestling instead of Poker. :(

[Richardr]

Originally posted by falcon44
Channel Name: Sky 1
I think you meant Sky Sports 1?

[falcon44]

I think you meant Sky Sports 1?

True :)

[pmk]

C4 Tuesdays 20:00 -> Relocation, Relocation
(this *is* the correct name)

This program was called Relocation, Relocation, Relocation (i.e. last weeks was) do not know if SP's allow a program name change and they still work so if you do have this set double check everything is okay.

I catch by a Title Wish List of just "Relocation" so if you have a Wish List of three Relocations this will also need adjusting.

HTH

[Jim99]

This program record was modified to display the correct title. The TMS ID# remains the same so all SPs should be safe.

[Brownedger]

Originally posted by Brownedger
Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: E Entertainment
Number: 250
Date: Weekend various
Problem: This channel still has a problem with many gaps in the weekend listings for this week and future weeks.

I checked E listings on Friday and this had been corrected for the next 2 weeks, come saturday morning's download and next weekend's listing is full of holes again:mad:

Oh and how come we never get any of the live events listed (from the red carpet etc.) ?
There's one from the Grammys tonight and if I had not checked Sky's EPG I wouldn't know it was on.:mad:

[pmk]

Channel 4
Derren Brown: Mind Control

This starts a new 6 part series on Friday 28th February @ 22:35

Currently TiVo is not allowing you to set a SP on this program
It should not have a category of Special - it is a series - it has had specials in the past (sorry do not use categories so can't suggest alternatives)

There is a repeat showing of the one on Friday on Saturday 1st Match @ 23:45

TiVo is currently showing different episode details
TiVo is currently recording this as a repeat even though I have the 28/2/03 one being recorded

Part 2 of the series is listed for Friday 7th March @ 22:35

TiVo is not recording this episode as it thinks it is a repeat of the one on 28/02/03 @ 22:35 or 01/03/03 @ 23:45

I suggest this repeat will be throughout the series - e.g. Friday new show, repeat on Saturday.

HTH

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One (SKYONE)
Channel Number: 106

Very late change, this will be too late for TiVo but to warn users. (actually some of it has been added to tivo listings, which I have annotated. Source is the sky EPG)
Added:
The Michael Jackson Interview
Mon 24th Feb 21:00-22:45 - tivo has a 23:00 finish

All the following changes are due to the above!

Pop Years
Mon 24th Feb 22:45-23:45 - tivo has 23:00-00:00

Time Gentlemen Please
Tue 25th Feb 02:25-02:55 - tivo has 02:40-03:05

Time Gentlemen Please
Tue 25th Feb 02:55-03:25 - tivo has 03:05-03:30

Time Gentlemen Please
Tue 25th Feb 03:25-03:55 - tivo has 03:30-03:55

Pop Years
Tue 25th Feb 04:20-05:10 - tivo correct


Removed:
Star Trek: Voyager
Mon 24th Feb 21:00-22:00 - ok

Jeremiah
Mon 24th Feb 22:00-23:00 - ok

Hotter Sex
Mon 24th Feb 23:00-00:00 - ok

The Villa
Tue 25th Feb 02:40-03:30 - ok

Hotter Sex
Tue 25th Feb 03:55-04:45 - ok

Walker's World
Tue 25th Feb 04:45-05:10 - ok


New Time:
Star Trek: Voyager
Mon 24th Feb 23:45-00:00 - tivo has Tues 00:00-01:00

Andromeda
Tue 25th Feb 00:45-01:35 - tivo has 01:00-01:50

V.I.P
Tue 25th Feb 01:35-02:25 - tivo has 01:50-02:40

Crash Palace
Tue 25th Feb 03:55-04:20 - tivo correct

HTH

PS - I first read a rumour that Sky One would be showing the Michael Jackson programme on Friday afternoon, Digiguide still shows the old schedule. Now that I've seen a trailer for it and the Sky EPG has been updated I've posted the above.

[Paj]

Postcode: HD9
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Nick Jr
Channel Number: 624
Programme: Blue's Clues

There are two separate programme IDs for Blue's Clues, each of which covers a selection of the programmes aired. I know that this channel repeats mercilessly, so I doubt anyone is going to be upset that they've lost a programme (like a 1 year old is even going to notice!), but I guess it could cause confision.

[LJ]

Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: 854 BBC Radio 4
Programme: Money Box
Problem: All OADs are 11th May 2002. TiVo wants to record every episode.

The show's schedule is normally a new show on Saturday, repeated on Sunday and a 'live' version of the show on Monday (which is not repeated).

[digital_S]

With the Qualifying of the new F1 season, (:D at last!!),
TiVo has, Formula One Racing - "Australian Grand Prix Qualifying Live" ITV1 - for both Fri 7th March @ 2:15am, and Sat 8th March @ 12:30am. Shouldn't one be the re-run?
Although the Friday showing is 1 hr 55 and the Saturday showing is 3 hr 45! Makes me think the Saturday one is the main race!?

[Richardr]

Originally posted by digital_S
With the Qualifying of the new F1 season, (:D at last!!),
TiVo has, Formula One Racing - "Australian Grand Prix Qualifying Live" ITV1 - for both Fri 7th March @ 2:15am, and Sat 8th March @ 12:30am. Shouldn't one be the re-run?
Although the Friday showing is 1 hr 55 and the Saturday showing is 3 hr 45! Makes me think the Saturday one is the main race!? Only post in here if you are reasonably sure there is an error.

This year there are two qualifying days. On the Saturday, ITV1 have a long programme which will include a re-run of Friday, plus live the Saturday qualifying. As I understand it, Saturday's order is determined by Friday's first qualifying day, and is a single lap event.

As far as I am aware the schedule is correct.

[kitschcamp]

Indeed, it is correct. Thankfully!

[Gavin]

Postcode: cm19
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Discovery +1
Channel Number: 501
Programme Name: Remote Maddness
Time/Date of airing: Thurs 20/2 4:30 and fri 21/2 8:30

Says no information available and it recorded both showings but it's the same episode. Tivo is set to repeats and FRO but it shouldn't be recording the same one..

22/2 Edit
It's done it again, 22/2 10:30 AM Same thing, this is the 2rd time it's repeated and the third time Tivo's recorded it.

Again the Guide says No Information Available.


22/2 3pm Same details as above otherwise.

[Gavin]

Postcode: cm19
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Discovery +1
Channel Number: 501
Programme Name: Remote Maddness
Time/Date of airing: Thurs 20/2 4:30 and fri 21/2 8:30

Says no information available and it recorded both showings but it's the same episode. Tivo is set to repeats and FRO but it shouldn't be recording the same one..

22/2 Edit
It's done it again, 22/2 10:30 AM Same thing, this is the 2rd time it's repeated and the third time Tivo's recorded it.

Again the Guide says No Information Available.


22/2 3pm Same details as above otherwise.
I now have 4 copies of the same episode, Can someone suggest why, I know I have repeats set but should I be getting ht e same one 4 times, I thought the 28 day rule should be in effect

[B33K34]

Postcode :SW2
Provider: NTL digital
Ch name: Mtv2
Ch# unknown
I have a number of recordings identified as Dirty Sanchez that are actually Beavis and Butthead,

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by Richardr
As far as I am aware the schedule is correct.

Yes I think it is correct too. Saturday isn't the race, Sunday will be the race but we won't get that next week of guide data until next week!

Having the data arrive has made me look forward to the new season even more! It's great to have a SP we can set which is "Formula One Racing", with the events in the episode title, and the category "Motor Sport". No "auto racing" in sight! :D The guide data has improved such a lot since I first got my TiVo. Many thanks to Jim99 and TiVo_Rich for making this happen! :)

[sanderton]

CBeebies has full episode data - woo hoo!

Many thanks Jim99 and pals.

But before I go replacing my manual repeating recordings with real SPs - the data goes back to generic after March 8th. You explained that you get the episode data from the BBC late - can I assume that the guide data will be updated with episodes nearer the time?

[Gavin]

Postcode: cm19
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: BBC three
Programme Name: 2 pints of lager and a packet of crisps
Time/Date of airing: Thurs 22/2 9pm and 23/2 12:50

Recorded the same episode twice.

[warrenrb]

Is the BBC Three guide data quite generic atm?

Like Gavin, I seem to be getting quite a few episodes twice (Monkey Dust, Dreamscapes, etc.)

It seems Three repeats a lot of it's evening programming in the early hours, which is fantastic for Tivo clashes, but obviously only with good guide data.

Anyone else noticed this? Is it the Beeb's fault for not providing episode titles?

Woz.

[sanderton]

There doesn't appear to be any episode data for any of the BBC3 programmes I have SPs for :(

(2 pints, Dreamscapes, Swiss Toni)

[sjp]

Postcode: SM3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: Living and Living +1
Number: 112 & 113
Date: Mar 7th and Mar 14th
Problem: Penultimate episode of season 2...

Cross Jurisdictions is being broadcast on Friday Mar 7th. The data for Friday 14th shows this episode being re-broadcast, it is not a 2 parter (according to Living themselves and TvTome). Could this be a mistake? Could it be that the final episode (The Hunger Artist) should occupy this slot?

tia

[sjp]

Postcode: SM3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: Sky One
Number: 106
Date: Saturday March 1st
Problem: Jeremiah cancelled this week

The Sky EPG is now showing NO episodes of Jeremiah this week due to the Michael Jackson crap.

The final showing of the week is at 3:55/4:20am (it moves about a bit - can't remember which) this coming Saturday. If this showing remains in the Tivo epg it MAY cause problems (by way of the 28 day rule) if you update next weeks showings with this weeks episode title. It looks like Sky have just bumped things back a week.

[Adder]

Few genre problems:

Top of the list and most important:
"British Touring Car Championship" - MOTORS (Sat 8/3 11am)
Remove Motoring, Sports Non-Event,
Add Motor Racing, Sports Event

"Rally Fever" - SKYSPX (7/3 11pm)
Remove Motoring
Add Motor Racing

"Motors Home" - MOTORS
Remove Motor Sport
Add Motoring (and Holiday?)
For info - the show contains reviews of caravans and campers(motorhomes).

"Mondial Truck" - MOTORS remove Motor Sport, add Motoring

"Jet Star" - MOTORS remove Motor Sport, add Aviation

"Flightpath" - MOTORS remove Motor Sport, add Aviation

Thanks for all you guys. ;)

[steveroe]

Postcode: HU5
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: BBC Three
Number: 160?
Date: Tonight 25th Feb

Problem: TiVo has "Little Britain" showing at 21:30, just turned it on to watch and it's "3 Non-Blondes", BBC website confirms "Little Britain" is not tonight.

[Andy C]

Postcode: GU14
Provider: ntl:digitalplus
Channel: E4
Number: 144
Date: Thursday February 27th, 2003.
Problem: Listing Error for "Friends" at 23.30 on E4.

The episode in the TiVo EPG is showing as "The One With The Joke (2000)", whereas it should be a second airing of the episode shown at 21:00 called "The One With Rachels Phone Number (2003)".

This is preventing the Season Pass from recording this showing until Sunday evening.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Stimps
Date: Thursday February 27th, 2003.
Problem: Listing Error for "Friends" at 23.30 on E4.[/B]

I don't think it will get fixed in time, but thanks for the warning. Just sorted it out on mine :)

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by sjp
Postcode: SM3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: Sky One
Number: 106
Date: Saturday March 1st
Problem: Jeremiah cancelled this week

The Sky EPG is now showing NO episodes of Jeremiah this week due to the Michael Jackson crap.

The final showing of the week is at 3:55/4:20am (it moves about a bit - can't remember which) this coming Saturday. If this showing remains in the Tivo epg it MAY cause problems (by way of the 28 day rule) if you update next weeks showings with this weeks episode title. It looks like Sky have just bumped things back a week.

They have - see http://www.skyprogrammeinformation.co.uk/download/537_Sk1_WK9-11.doc
from http://www.skyprogrammeinformation.co.uk/weekly_amendment.asp

I think Sky are pretty clued up and these are probably the same updates that they send to Tribune, so we should be ok. They updated Monday's schedule twice - first with a 9-11 timeslot for Jackson, then later 9-10.45. I think (guessing again) that the 2nd one was too late for us. NB: Digiguide did not get the correct schedule in time, and still hasn't, despite their boasts about how quickly they can react and Sky's efficient updates website.

[Gavin]

Postcode: cm19
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: BBC three
Programme Name: 2 pints of lager and a packet of crisps
Time/Date of airing: Thurs 22/2 9pm and 23/2 12:50

Recorded the same episode twice.

Also 25/2 at 9pm and 26/2 at 2:30 am recorded the same episode, (Munch) with the same description again, thats 4 times in total.

[B33K34]

Postcode: SW2
Provider: NTL digital
Channel name: BBC 3
Programme: Little Britain
Time/Date: 2130 25/2/03

This slot was not Little Britain - 3 Non Blondes was shown. This is correct in listings magazines so is not a late change.

No episode information for many shows on BBC 3 (still)

[B33K34]

Postcode: SW2
Provider: NTL digital
Channel name: MTV2
Programme: Dirty Sanchez
Time/Date: 2300 28/02/03 also 3am Saturday(?) and other times?

Dirty Sanchez appears many times in TiVo listings for MTV2 but has not been shown in ANY of the slots which have recorded. The MTV website does not appear to show Dirty Sanchez in the listings at any time with Beavis and Butthead shown in the slots identified.

[themaddoc]

- Postcode london, nw9
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) sky digital
- Channel Name 808
- Channel Number zee tv
- Programme Name MOVIE
- Time/Date of airing all movies
- Problem encountered

all movies aired on this channel just have movie in the guide data. it would be nice for them to include the name of the movie as well as a description of actors...like all other english titles.

also there is a problem on channel 808 and 809 Zee music and Zee cinema respectively...they have no guide data just the channel name.

[Andy C]

Originally posted by cwaring
I don't think it will get fixed in time, but thanks for the warning. Just sorted it out on mine :)
It's nice to see that 'first run' season passes are working for Friends these days though. :)

[Adder]

Following up on the genre thread TiVo_Pony also mentioned that we would no longer see the "generic" titles for programmes such as "Auto Racing", I have discovered three in my current guide data:

Title: Auto Racing
Time: 2/3 6pm SKYSPX
Episode: "Indy Racing League"

This should be a member of the series "IRL Racing" and have the episode title "Toyota Indy 300" as the other shows on Sky Sports do.

Title: Auto Racing
Time: 5/3 2.05 am FIVE
Episode: "Indy Racing League"

This should also be a member of the series "IRL Racing", but have an episode title of "Toyota Indy 300 Highlights".

Title: Auto Racing
Time: 3/3 9.15 pm EUROGB
Episode: "Nascar"

This should be a member of the already created "NASCAR Racing" and have the title "Winston Cup Subway 400".

Thanks. ;)

[mrtickle]

Hmm that's given me an idea.

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Five
Channel Number: 105
Programme Name: Final Justice
Time/Date of airing: Friday 28th February 2003 15:40 to 17:30

Suspense thriller about two sworn enemies in competition for a dead man's legacy [snip]

Tivo has this an episode of the series "Movie", with no other guide data.


Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Living
Channel Number: 112
Programme Name: A Long Way Home
Time/date of airing: Mon 3rd Mar 01:45


TiVo has this as series "Movie" :(, episode title "A Long Way Home"

[Adder]

Thanks guys for the genre updates guys, this one seems to have slipped the net though:

"Mondial Truck" - MOTORS remove Motor Sport, add Motoring

In addition to the above "Auto Racing" problems I have discovered another show that has found its way into another series:

Provider: BSkyB UK
Channel: FIVE
Time: Thu 13/3 5.35am

Name: Fastrax

This show has ended up as a seperate series to the correct "Fastrax", which is showing to have episodes on FIVE, SKYSP2, SKYSPX, can you slip this rogue back into the correct series?

Thanks again. :)

[AJP]

Postcode - SO22 6LT
Platform - Sky Digital

Channel - Fox News
Number - 531
- All programs
- All times / all dates

Problem - No program listings at all. Which is annoying, because I like Bill O'Reilly - so I have to use manual recordings.

Also (same postcode, and also Sky Digital)

Channel - CNBC
Number - 510
- Meet the Press
- 17:00 Sunday's & 04:00 Monday's - every week.

Problem - No meaningful description data for this show - including no "episode title" (e.g. the date); wrong "Original Air Date" (always 1/1/2000) - therefore a "Season Pass" records the show twice.

Also (while I'm here) - and again the same postcode & platform...

Channel - BBC Radio 4
Number - 854
- Letter from America
- All editions (Friday, Saturday & Sunday)

Problem - No description at all, no title, incorrect "Original Air Date". Therefore a "Season Pass" records the program three times - when there is only one new edition per week.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by AJP
Channel - Fox News
Number - 531
- All programs
- All times / all dates

Problem - No program listings at all. Which is annoying, because I like Bill O'Reilly - so I have to use manual recordings. I too would like to see Fox News listings.

Interesting that the new CCTV9 has full listings - and today where TiVo and the Sky EPG did not match - it was TiVo that was correct.! :)

[Gavin]

Postcode: cm19
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: C4 (Aerial on chaneel 23)
Programme Name: Derren Brown
Time/Date of airing: Fri 28/1 2003

Tivo thinks this is a special, it's saying there are other episode but they are specials. Consequently it won't let me season pass it.

[steveroe]

Postcode: HU5
Provider: Sky
Channel: 102 BBC2
Date: 7th March 18:45

TiVo is showing the progamme as "Robot Wars", this is correct BUT it's the final of the sixth series, and is not showing under this season pass "Robot Wars: The Sixth Wars", so most people will miss the final.

Please fix if there is time!

[blindlemon]

Platform: Sky
Channel: Performance (259)
Show: Engelbert Humperdink
Error: IsEpisode is set to false - so TiVo records every showing it can!

Same error applies to lots of other shows on 259 - eg "Paul Simon" etc.

[irrelevant]

Sky digital, post code M5 3**
Ch 854 - BBC Radio 4 FM
Sat 12.30, repeat of previous Fri 18.30. The News Quiz.

Problems - IsEpisode false, original air date 21/6/2002.
TiVo Records both episodes.
(this is always a new show each week, air date definitely wrong!)

[mrtickle]

The BBC don't seem to supply Episodic data to Tribune for the radio series. Unless they start doing so, we will always have this problem. It affects many programmes on Radio 7 which are broadcast twice daily, too.

For programmes with generic data like this, the OAD will always be the date of the first every episode/date first imported to Tribune's database/other! :(

[johala_reewi]

Originally posted by steveroe
Postcode: HU5
Provider: Sky
Channel: 102 BBC2
Date: 7th March 18:45

TiVo is showing the progamme as "Robot Wars", this is correct BUT it's the final of the sixth series, and is not showing under this season pass "Robot Wars: The Sixth Wars", so most people will miss the final.

Please fix if there is time!

This is also the case for listings on BBC2STH.
Postcode SO45.
Provider: Freeview

[Andy C]

Postcode: GU14
Provider: ntl:digitalplus
Channel: Channel 4
Number: 104
Date: Weekly on Fridays at 22:35, repeated Saturdays approx. midnight.
Problem: Listing data for 'Derren Brown: Mind Control' is incorrect.

This has been mentioned here before, but it's still not working so here's my take on things.

To start with, the show 'Derren Brown: Mind Control' should be tagged as a SERIES, and NOT a Special. This time it is a series of 6 shows, whereas in the past they were one off specials. This problem is preventing us from setting Season Passes.

Also, Wishlists are not recording this show either as the description data for each show is incorrect. From using data provided by Digiguide, the next two shows are as follows:

Friday, March 7th at 22:35, and repeated Sunday, March 9th at 00:10
Psychological illusionist and former magician Derren Brown uses his unique abilities to anticipate and manipulate people's everyday reactions. He visits the Oxford Union Debating Society and reveals some of the methods behind the techniques he uses and practices his mind control on a group of lap dancers and a group of boxers.

Friday, March 14th at 22:35 and repeated Saturday, March 15th at 23:40
Psychological illusionist and former magician Derren Brown uses his unique abilities to anticipate and manipulate people's everyday reactions. He visits a London casino and shows off his card skills to a group of casino croupiers, baffles stall holders at Borough Market, and attempts to influence paralympic gold champion Bob Matthews.

[pmk]

re Derren Brown - I posted the same problem on "02-23-2003 10:35 AM" - it has not been fixed.

My Wish List is picking up this weeks (and last weeks) program (Friday showing anyway) - do not know why yours isn't. It is either not picking up next weeks show or it is not on for some reason.

Still can't set a SP and Category is wrong as originally stated.

[Gavin]

Hi

BBC1, Sat 9pm

Not really a huge error, but Jonathan Creek listed Caroline Quentin as one of the stars, she's not in theis series.

Recorded OK, but anyone with a Wishlist for Her, or Julia Swahela (?SP) will have missed out.

[Gavin]

BBC3
Two pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps
Tues 21:30 Wed 00:30, 21:00, thurs 02:30

The first one is a new Ep the rest are repeats, but Tivo's still recording all showings, as if they are new episodes. Anyone able to check the flags to see whats set and whats not?

I've even called Tivo over this and Derren Brown but no change.

[steveroe]

RE: Jonathan Creek.

TiVo also thought Anthony Head was in it and he wasn't (he only appeared in the pilot didn't he?)

[Andy C]

Originally posted by pmk
re Derren Brown - I posted the same problem on "02-23-2003 10:35 AM" - it has not been fixed.

My Wish List is picking up this weeks (and last weeks) program (Friday showing anyway) - do not know why yours isn't. It is either not picking up next weeks show or it is not on for some reason.
Well, my wishlist recordered last weeks show, however it wont record any others in the EPG as it says 'another showing is/was available within 28 days'. I'm guessing this is because the description is identical for each episode.

[Brownedger]

Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: Five
Number: 105
Date: 16th March 2003 at 2.45pm
Name: CIS Insurance cup final (Celtic vRangers)
Problem: Will you categorise this as FOOTBALL so that wishlists etc. can detect it, at the moment it is just SPORTS EVENT.
Curiously the replay of this match in FIVE FOOTBALL REPLAY is categorised as FOOTBALL, SPORTS NON EVENT.

[Foxy]

Postcode - ML8
Platform - Freeview
Channel - Five
Programme Name: Fifth Gear
Time/Date of airing: Wed 12/3 2003 onwards

a) Didn't this programme used to be called "5th Gear"? Channel 5 web site appears to agree; search for "5th Gear" returns repeats on Discovery Home & Leisure & search for "Fifth Gear" returns new series on Five.
So Season Passes for "5th Gear" presumably won't get "Fifth Gear"?

b) The title is appearing as e.g. "Fifth Gear: The Ultimate Crash Test" and "Fifth Gear: The Ultimate Menace - Snoozers or Boozers", so a Season Pass won't get them! I've had to use a Wishlist!

[Adder]

Originally posted by Adder
Thanks guys for the genre updates guys, this one seems to have slipped the net though:

"Mondial Truck" - MOTORS remove Motor Sport, add Motoring

In addition to the above "Auto Racing" problems I have discovered another show that has found its way into another series:

Provider: BSkyB UK
Channel: FIVE
Time: Thu 13/3 5.35am

Name: Fastrax

This show has ended up as a seperate series to the correct "Fastrax", which is showing to have episodes on FIVE, SKYSP2, SKYSPX, can you slip this rogue back into the correct series?

Thanks again. :)

Thanks for the Robot Wars: The Sixth Wars fix, however the above problems are still present.

And the following "Auto Racing" has appeared again:

Provider: BSkyB UK
Channel: 412: EUROGB
Time: 23/3 11.30pm

Title: Auto Racing

This programme should be in an already created series that I think was called "American LeMans Series" last year, should really have a space between Le and Mans as shown in the episode title.

Thanks. :up:

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by Foxy
Postcode - ML8
Platform - Freeview
Channel - Five
Programme Name: Fifth Gear
Time/Date of airing: Wed 12/3 2003 onwards

a) Didn't this programme used to be called "5th Gear"? Channel 5 web site appears to agree; search for "5th Gear" returns repeats on Discovery Home & Leisure & search for "Fifth Gear" returns new series on Five.
So Season Passes for "5th Gear" presumably won't get "Fifth Gear"?


Yes. The correct SP is "5th Gear" the same series ID as the DHL one. (http://tivo/series/352887 for tivoweb users). Well spotted.


b) The title is appearing as e.g. "Fifth Gear: The Ultimate Crash Test" and "Fifth Gear: The Ultimate Menace - Snoozers or Boozers", so a Season Pass won't get them! I've had to use a Wishlist!

This recent "innovation" of the broadcasters of putting episode titles into the programme title certainly causes a headache for Tribune (and others). You'll see that it has resulted in a separate series for every episode.

Jim please can we have these put back into the original "5th gear" series with episodes, ie

episode called "The Ultimate Crash Test":
FIVE Wed 12th Mar 20:30 True EP5687830001
FIVE Sun 16th Mar 17:10 True EP5687830001

episode called "The Ultimate Menace: Snoozers or Boozers"
FIVE Wed 19th Mar 20:30 True SH5697940000 (warning - that SH looks wrong - I expect there will be a duplicate of this on Sunday 23rd...)

[LJ]

Originally posted by mrtickle
Yes. The correct SP is "5th Gear" the same series ID as the DHL one. (http://tivo/series/352887 for tivoweb users).Does that link work for any other TiVoWeb users? It gives me a "can't open object (errDbNotFound)" error. 5th Gear on DHL on my TiVo is http://tivo/series/421545 :confused:

[sjp]

Derren Brown... looks like something might have been done but my SP is still failing (due to the 28 day rule) to pick up the first broadcast on Friday this week. It is picking the repeat on Saturday.

tia

stuart

[Andy C]

Originally posted by sjp
Derren Brown... looks like something might have been done but my SP is still failing (due to the 28 day rule) to pick up the first broadcast on Friday this week. It is picking the repeat on Saturday.
Darren Brown has been fixed and is now showing correct categories and descriptions (thanks tivo/tribune).

sjp, I'm not sure why it isn't working for you as I now have both March 14th and 21st listed in 'To Do'. Not a lot of help I know, but maybe try deleting the SP and creating it again now the guide data is correct?

[sjp]

stimps... 'twas mainly a warning to others who might not get Friday for the same reasons as I, AND who might have a clash on Saturday therefore not getting either showing.

[Adder]

Provider: BSkyB UK

Channel: 105 FIVE

Time of airing: 18/3 12.55 am

Title: "NASCAR Busch Series Motor Racing"

Problem: This has slipped out of the correct season pass again, it should be in the series titled "NASCAR Busch Racing Series".

Thanks.

[Bones]

Postcode : SS5
Service Provider : Sky Digital

Fri 28 Feb @ 09:30, Living (112)
TiVo thought "Star Treatment" was showing.
Actually aired (and reported correctly on Sky EPG) was "The Golden Girls"

Sat 8 March @ 20:45, BBC1 (101)
TiVo thought "Casualty" was showing. Programme actually started at 20:55 (and reported as such on the Sky EPG).

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Bones
Sat 8 March @ 20:45, BBC1 (101)
TiVo thought "Casualty" was showing. Programme actually started at 20:55 (and reported as such on the Sky EPG).

Yes, but on this occasion it was not a Scheduling error!

As already mentioned in another thread (by me, as it happens!) the Live football over-ran, causing all subsequent shows to start late.

This is the one advantage the Sky+ has over Tivo. The EPG can be updated much quicker.

[rscott4563]

- Postcode - LS1 4HJ
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - Channel 4
- Channel Number - 104
- Programme Name - ER
- Time/Date of airing - 19/03/03
- Problem encountered - When trying to setup a season pass to record all of the new series of ER starting on the 19th of March at 9pm TiVo dosen't seem to recognise that the new season and the repeats shown on channel 4 day time are different?? I've got it set to only record the first runs and I setup the season pass on the episode that will begin running on the 19th but if I look at the episodes set to be recorded and they include all of the repeats of last series during the day???

[rscott4563]

- Postcode - LS1 4HJ
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - Channel 4
- Channel Number - 104
- Programme Name - ER
- Time/Date of airing - 19/03/03
- Problem encountered - When trying to setup a season pass to record all of the new series of ER starting on the 19th of March at 9pm TiVo dosen't seem to recognise that the new season and the repeats shown on channel 4 day time are different?? I've got it set to only record the first runs and I setup the season pass on the episode that will begin running on the 19th but if I look at the episodes set to be recorded and they include all of the repeats of last series during the day???

[sanderton]

Channel Name: ITV
Programme Name: Formula 1 racing

Not an error as such, but a suggestion.

It is virtually impossible to set a SP for the F1 races, as a SP will also include the two days of qualifying AND the highlights shows following the races. If you add an hours padding (vital in case of a restart), then one weekend will generate more than an entire TiVo's HD-full of recordings!

Can we have the ability to set a SP for the live race ONLY, and then a second one to pick up the ancilliary programmes?

[mrtickle]

So don't set padding then - or use Basic quality - or use your ability to alter the padding for the live race from your Todo list - this isn't a guide data problem :( You could say the same about what happens if you set padding on loads of other series.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by mrtickle
So don't set padding then - or use Basic quality - or use your ability to alter the padding for the live race from your Todo list - this isn't a guide data problem :( You could say the same about what happens if you set padding on loads of other series.

The problem is caused by the guide data configuration, hence posting here.

It IS a guide data problem if I can't set up a SP for Formula 1 live races without getting a whole bunch of other programmes that either aren't races, or aren't live, or both!

If I set a SP for Live Premiership Football and it also picked up the highlights shows and the pre-weekend preview shows, I think that would be wrong. And that's what's happening here.

As it stands, the the SP is unusable - you said youself in another thread that you have to manually edit the programmes it sets up. A SP you have to manually edit each week is not a working SP IMHO. And I won't mention your comments in another thread about News SPs - seems a little consistency is lacking here!

Splitting the SP into two would actually make your life easier too - I don't see why you're against it?

This is not the end of the world; I will set up a Wishlist and use View Upcoming Episodes to pick out the races, but as one of the big points of TiVo is that it should do that for you, and in this case, it won't because of the way the guide data is configured.

[kitschcamp]

Because it inherently breaks what season passes are about?

If I set a season pass for F1 (which we've only been able to do for the last season and this), then I expect it to record the sports event F1, which includes qualifying and racing.

Your suggestion is like suggesting that Tennis have a season pass for "Tennis Finals" and a seperate one for the qualifying rounds and early stages. It's just asking for errors.

[sanderton]

No, it's like suggesting that "Wimbledon Live" and "Wimbledon Highlights" and "Wimbledon Preview" are seperate programmes that should have separate SPs.

There are two points here. One is whether the qulaifying and the recae should be picked up on the same SP. That's arguable, but I would prefer not, and I'm pretty sure a glance at the ratings will tell you that most people regard them as being very separate things too.

The other is that the SP for the race should pick up the repeat of the race later in the day. This I can see no justification for.

SPs are inherently about recordinga ll episodes of the same show. Qualifying, the race and highlights are three differennt things, not episodes of the same thing.

[Furball]

- Postcode - PO11
- Service Provider - NTL
- Channel Name - QVC
- Channel Number - 20
- Problem encountered - Lost guide data , it has been fine up until a few days ago and now has dissappeared.

Is this due to the fact that data has stopped being produced for this channel ?????

Fur

[bradleyem]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
Because it inherently breaks what season passes are about?

If I set a season pass for F1 (which we've only been able to do for the last season and this), then I expect it to record the sports event F1, which includes qualifying and racing.


But surely, that's a wishlist?

Your suggestion is like suggesting that Tennis have a season pass for "Tennis Finals" and a seperate one for the qualifying rounds and early stages. It's just asking for errors.

No, you can't compare two tennis rounds to F1 qualfiying and F1 racing.
In your Tennis example they are different rounds of the same competition. In F1 this would equate to each F1 race being a different round of the F1 championship.

Would you consider the Tennis seeding draw as the same program as the Tennis matches? Odd analogy, but Seeding Draw = Qualifying, Tennis Match = Race, Tennis Championship = F1 Season.


IMHO Qualfiying, Race and Highlights are three different things. The live race and as-live race should also be considered as the same program, even though they aren't actually the same program (most of the non-race stuff is removed).

did all that make sense?? :confused:

Brad (who enjoyed the race anyway)

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by sanderton

The other is that the SP for the race should pick up the repeat of the race later in the day. This I can see no justification for.


I'm sure I've posted justification for that bit at least twice - the "replay" is a different broadcast, with different introductions/chats etc. It is not a true "duplicate". Anyway after the Malaysian re-run a week Sunday, the only other race that has one will be Japan on 12th Oct! It really isn't worth the hassle and risk of errors to ask for this change just for 3 episodes per year, even if I did think that they were duplicates. I still remember how hard-fought this SP was! :)

[Adder]

I agree with mrtickle, I am quite happy with how it is as it stands, this weekend is an exception for Malaysia there will only be 4 programmes picked up:

Quali 1
Quali 2
Race
Highlights

All distinct programmes.

As you see me post in this thread there are enough other motor racing series that do not end up in the same season pass week-to-week to include even more complexity.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by mrtickle
I'm sure I've posted justification for that bit at least twice - the "replay" is a different broadcast, with different introductions/chats etc. It is not a true "duplicate". Anyway after the Malaysian re-run a week Sunday, the only other race that has one will be Japan on 12th Oct! It really isn't worth the hassle and risk of errors to ask for this change just for 3 episodes per year, even if I did think that they were duplicates. I still remember how hard-fought this SP was! :)

I read your justification, I just don't agree wiith it! It is inconceivavle to me that anyone would watch both the live race and the as-live replay, so they are to all intents and purposes the same!

Anyway, you are quite right that this crops up so infrequently that it is not an issue.

[cwaring]

Just noticed this, so it's too late to get it changed, but there's a screw-up with "Buffy" on BBC2 this week. Thursdays ep is fine, but the Saturday repeat (1.05am this week) lists a different episode title which is naturally being picked up by a FROSP. The ep description, though, is the same :confused:

"Normal Again" is this weeks ep. "Entropy" (given as the title of the repeat) is actually the next episodes title which - according to DG - isn't on for at least two weeks.

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by bradleyem
Would you consider the Tennis seeding draw as the same program as the Tennis matches? Odd analogy, but Seeding Draw = Qualifying, Tennis Match = Race, Tennis Championship = F1 Season.


Maybe it is an odd analogy, but yes I do consider them part of the same intrinsic event. For example, a season pass for the Australian Open should pick up all rounds of the Australian Open, whether an early stage, a final or whatever. Personally, I'd rather just record the mens events, but I wouldn't suggest creating a separate season pass for that - that's what wishlists are for.


IMHO Qualfiying, Race and Highlights are three different things. The live race and as-live race should also be considered as the same program, even though they aren't actually the same program (most of the non-race stuff is removed).


Could be a dangerous precedent to set, if they were to.

[sanderton]

I guess it comes down to whether you consider the qualifying an intrinsic part of the F1 race. I don't.

[kitschcamp]

Qualifying is very intrinsic to F1. It may not be part of the race, but it's part of the event, the sport etc. If you don't want those bits, use a wishlist for F1 and race. Or cancel the bits you don't want. But please don't try and get them to break our nicely working season passes.

[bobnick]

Hmm, but there's pre-qualifying and the actual qualifying. There's arguments both ways for SP settings, but really, they should be seperated out - that way, people can choose what they want to record.
I don't understand why highlights are chucked into the same Season Pass as the race - if I tape a live football match, I don't expect the highlights to be also taped later on that evening.
Is there any issue that people can think of as to why we shouldn't have seperate SPs for Friday Qualifying, Saturday Qualifying, the Race, and Highlights? I know different people who regularly watch one / two / three and even all of the above! Can't Tivo cater to them?

[sanderton]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
But please don't try and get them to break our nicely working season passes.

But that's the point - for me (and at least a couple of others around here) thet arent't nicely working Season Passes. I have to set manual recordings. Even Mr Tickle has to manually edit his because he wants the reae to have different settings to the others.

If they were separate, you would get what you want (you would set SPs for all), and I would get what I want (just the race). Everyone wins. I can't see the down side?

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by sanderton

If they were separate, you would get what you want (you would set SPs for all), and I would get what I want (just the race). Everyone wins. I can't see the down side?

That the download happens Saturday night, for example, you don't know that now you have "F1 Qualifying" and "F1 Race" and as a result it doesn't record the race. I'd be mightily cheesed off if that happens, as would those who expect the season pass to work who don't read these boards.

I shouldn't have to worry about an existing season pass suddenly working completely differently.

[sanderton]

That's a one-off practical transitional problem; in principle, what is the downside?

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by sanderton
But that's the point - for me (and at least a couple of others around here) thet arent't nicely working Season Passes. I have to set manual recordings. Even Mr Tickle has to manually edit his because he wants the reae to have different settings to the others.


"even" me? :). I don't have to manually edit my SP. What I meant to say in reply to the person who said it was hassle removing the padding from [all episodes except the race], was that it's easier to have no/little padding on the SP, then only edit the race episode.


If they were separate, you would get what you want (you would set SPs for all), and I would get what I want (just the race). Everyone wins. I can't see the down side?

a) there is no need for a guide data change, and unnecessary extra work for Jim. You can already do what you want with a wishlist. That is what wishlists are for.
b) 99% of uk tivo users who don't read this forum would suddenly find episodes missing from their SP, after the event, and get very upset. I've said many a time that "orphan" episodes which are missing from SPs are the hardest ones to spot. All those people would be mighty annoyed to get up on Saturday 22nd Mar to find that Qualifying 1, which they thought would have been recorded for them, wasn't - and no repeat available.

Perhaps this could all be moved to a new thread, these discussion posts make it harder for Jim to find real errors to fix (yes I'm sorry, I am guilty of it too!)

[Jim99]

Nah, I like the witty banter...

[Adder]

Jim, there are still the following motor racing problems:

Series linking problems:

Provider: BSkyB UK
Channel: 105 FIVE
Time: 18/3 12.55 am

Title: "NASCAR Busch Series Motor Racing"

Problem: This has slipped out of the correct season pass again, it should be in the series titled "NASCAR Busch Racing Series".

Provider: BSkyB UK
Channel: 412 EUROGB
Time: 23/3 11.30pm

Title: Auto Racing

This programme should be in an already created series that I think was called "American LeMans Series" last year, should really have a space between Le and Mans as shown in the episode title.

Genres:

"Mondial Truck" - MOTORS remove Motor Sport, add Motoring

Can you take a look at these?