ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors

[Automan]

Originally posted by mrtickle

Previously reported, updated report:


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One (SKYONE)
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: Stargate SG-1

Problem 1: some old episodes have someone got wrong OADs, making them appears as "First Runs" when they are not:

"A Matter of Time" EP2254210039 airing Tue 26th Nov 10:55 and 18:00
"The Fifth Race" EP2254210038 airing Wed 27th Nov 10:55 and 18:00
"Serpent's Song" EP2254210043 airing Thu 28th Nov 10:55 and 18:00
"Holiday" EP2254210041 airing Fri 29th Nov 10:55 and 18:00

These are season 2 episodes all shown on Sky and C4 before. Please check that the same isn't going to happen every day from now on!

Since the above was posted, the OAD of "Holiday" changed to Wed 28th Aug 2002 so that's no longer FR - ok. But more errors were added - again these are NOT First Runs :(

"One False Step" EP2254210042 airing Mon 2nd Dec 10:55 and 18:00
"Show and Tell" EP2254210044 airing Tue 3rd Dec 10:55 and 18:00
"1969" EP2254210045 airing Wed 4th Dec 10:55 and 18:00

The episodes for 5th and 6th Dec are ok.


(Problem 2: episode data is missing from Wed 27th Nov 20:00 and its re-run Sat 30th Nov 18:00. Should be an episode called "X-303" according to digiguide. - Fixed. Thanks)


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Previously reported, not yet fixed:


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One (SKYONE)
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: South Park

Same problem as Stargate SG-1 problem 1. Old episodes being marked as FR all over again.
EP2298270072 "It Hits the Fan" Wed 20th Nov 23:30
EP2298270074 "Cripple Fight!" Wed 27th Nov 23:30


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Previously reported, not yet fixed:


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One (SKYONE)
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: Odyssey 5
Time/Date of airing: Wed 27th Nov 21:00

Same problem as Stargate SG-1 problem 2. episode data is missing from Wed 27th Nov 21:00. Should be an episode called "Flux" according to digiguide.


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Previously reported, updated, not yet fixed:


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus (GPLUS)
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Columbo (series) and Columbo (individual TV-movies on Mon/Tues)

Time/Date of airing: Sat 16th Nov 14:00, re-run at 20:00. EP0010050011
Problem: description missing - says "see 20:00". All other details (actors etc) missing also.

Time/Date of airing: Sun 1st Dec 21:00. EP0010050008.
Problem: title is correct, but description is wrong/generic. All other details (actors etc) missing.

Time/Date of airing: Mon 18th Nov 21:00. MV0388280000
Problem: title is correct, actors filled in, but description is wrong/generic.

Time/Date of airing: Tue 19th Nov 21:00. MV0420440000
Problem: title is correct, actors filled in, but description is wrong/generic.

Time/Date of airing: Mon 25th Nov 21:00. MV0500660000
Problem: title is correct, actors filled in, but description is wrong/generic.

Time/Date of airing: Tue 26th Nov 21:00. MV0263660000
Problem: no problem, this one is ok

Time/Date of airing: Sat 1st Dec 21:00 EP0010050008 "A Stitch in Crime"
Problem: title is correct, description is wrong/generic, no other actors or data at all.

Time/Date of airing: Mon 2nd Dec 21:00 EP0010050015 "The Most Dangerous Match"
Problem: title is correct, description is wrong/generic, no other actors or data at all.

Time/Date of airing: Tue 3rd Dec 21:00 EP0010050013 "Double Shock"
Problem: title is correct, description is wrong/generic, no other actors or data at all.


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Programme Name: I'm Alan Partridge. Fixed - thanks
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Programme Name: PMQs. Fixed - thanks
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Programme Name: Robot Wars: The Sixth Wars. Fixed - thanks
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Stargate episodes are still in error as my box set to record first runs only recorded "A Matter Of Time" today at 10:55 this morning.

Ask asked by others
Do Tribune check this thread?

P.S.
Because of this guide error my box did not record Bewitched :(

But luckily Sky+ did as it has a Series Link which does not rely on Tribune :)

Automan.

[sjp]

Mr Tickle...

I've no wish to upset anybody but surely a channel named Biography will only have biographies on it (or in the case of Leonard Cohen, a rather boring interview by a women who seemed to be desperate to get into bed with the man).

I accept your Season Pass comment but an SP set loose on this channel would surely get EVERY show entitled "Biography", 28 day rule excepted, and miss those shows that already have proper titles (which is not my doing, they've been there for days :) ).

I guess I just can't get my head round having an SP for a show/series/whichever without knowing the actual content of any of the shows (and there would be lots) that would be recorded.

I've reported this to CS so my way of thinking *may* already be in motion, please feel free to call them (i spoke to Scott yesterday afternoon) and have them review my request.

Time to agree to disagree methinks. :)

regards

stuart

[mrtickle]

I have many such SPs - another example is "Timewatch" which is a different subject each episode, "Reputations" is a different person each time, etc. It's not that unusual - the only thing that is unusually is that "Biography" is almost the only series that is shown on that channel.

Anyway, I await with interest to see what they do! :)

Re the stargate errors - "Holiday" this Friday was fixed out of the ones I reported. (Geek point: this is also the first time this type of error (false OAD) has been corrected to my knowledge; remember that the UK FR OADs are often set by TiVo AFTER Tribune have passed the data onto them.). The others that I reported are not fixed at the moment, however the important thing is that no new errors were added (so whatever was causing the OADs to be renewed was fixed) and everything from "Out of Mind" on Thu 5th Dec onwards looks ok.

[JohnMalone]

- Postcode
WR14 1RN
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.)
Just analog aerial
- Channels
ITV1 (43)
As usual, there is no program information for ITV1 this Sat and Sun (November the 30th and December 1st) and the same next weekend (the 7th and 8th of December)

[sanderton]

Originally posted by JohnMalone
- Postcode
WR14 1RN
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.)
Just analog aerial
- Channels
ITV1 (43)
As usual, there is no program information for ITV1 this Sat and Sun (November the 30th and December 1st) and the same next weekend (the 7th and 8th of December)

The channel won't be "ITV1", but whatever station you get in Malvern.

I have full listings for HTV West; gaps are usually an issue with a problematic download on your machine. Try forcing a daily call; that often fills in blanks.

[sjp]

ITV1 London area (but assume it's accross the network)
Sun 8th at 9pm

The 3rd (and concluding) part to the Doctor Zhivago dramatisation is failing the 28 day rule.

This is also the case for tonights episode but I guess it's too late to fix it.

edit to correct: my "record this episode also" for the 8th probably knocked out tonights episode, both episode 2 and 3 have the same program description so the problem should only be with next sunday.

stuart

[Richardr]

Originally posted by Richardr (re TV5)
Now summer time has ended, the schedule is a hour out. Excellent - after 5 weeks the clock change bug has finally been fixed. :up: :up: :up:

[filbert]

Nationwide Football highlights which were on channel 23 (ITV terrestrial for London) on early morning Tuesdays has been renamed Football League Highlights. This caused my SP to fail. So anyone recording this should check their Todo list to see if you are still picking things up.

[cwaring]

There are still problems with "Stargate SG1".

I have a FRO SP for the new Wed/Sat eps (Best) and a WL (Medium) for the repeats.

Ep's for Mon-Wed this week (S2E19 "One False Step", E20 "Show & Tell" and E21 "1969") have all been picked up by the FRO SP.

The Ep on Dec 18 (S3E9, "Smoke & Mirrors") has been picked out by the WL and not the FRO SP.

I'll try to remember to call Tivo CS tonight

[mrtickle]

The "Smoke and Mirrors" episode is certainly being picked by MY FRO SP. Its OAD is set to 18th Dec. Try deleting and recreating your SP. Perhaps it's because you have a WL that the 28-day rule prevents the SP selecting it as well...

The first three you mention were reported ages ago by a few people in plenty of time - I think that the fact they are still there means they have decided not to fix them :(.

[gregh]

Is it possible to get more detail on the Extreme channel? currently the data for some programs is a single word, whilst others have no data at all. I know the Extreme people are willing to spread the data, as I once set up the digiguide user channel and they used to email me detail monthly.

regards,

Greg

[mrtickle]

The only thing I can suggest is to pass Extreme's contact details onto TiVo CS and ask that they pass them onto Tribune.

[sanderton]

Extreme seemed very mixed up last time I looked - the details on their web site were totally different to the listings on Digiguide. there website stuff was for the most part generic.

[cwaring]

Some fairly major changes here, so thought y'all would like to know :)


Radio Times has been told of some schedule changes that we thought you might like to know about. The changes are for Friday 6 to Tuesday 10 December on various channels.
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FRIDAY 6 DECEMBER

BBC1 late-night schedule changes (includes BBC1 Wales)

10:35pm Friday Night with Jonathan Ross - five minutes longer than billed
11:25pm Film: Switchback - was 11:20pm
1:25am Film: Horror Express - was 1:20am
2:50am BBC News 24 - was 2:45am

BBC1 Northern Ireland remains unaffected by these changes; please see below for BBC1 Scotland.
_________________________________________

BBC1 Scotland late-night schedule changes

10:35pm Friday Night with Jonathan Ross - five minutes longer than billed
11:25pm Live Floor Show - was 11:20pm
12:05am Film: Switchback - was 12:00am
2:00am BBC News 24 - was 1:55am
_____________________________________

BBC2 late-night schedule changes

11:35pm Later...with Jools Holland - ten minutes longer than billed
12:45am Buffy the Vampire Slayer - was 12:35am
1:25am Film: The Book of Life - was 1:15am

Please note the late-night changes include BBC2 Northern Ireland and BBC2 Wales; please see below for BBC2 Scotland.
__________________________________________

BBC2 Scotland late-night schedule changes

12:20am Later...with Jools Holland - ten minutes longer than billed
1:30am Buffy the Vampire Slayer - was 1:20am
__________________________________________

ITV1 evening schedule change

8:30pm New You've Been Framed! - replaces Pop Stars - the Rivals Extra
__________________________________________

ITV1 Ulster late-night schedule changes

11:15pm True Lies
1:50am Ghost Stories
2:10am On the Threshold of Sanity - was 2:00am
2:20am Attack in Pursuit of Africa's Maneaters - was 2:15am
3:15am Entertainment Now! - as scheduled
__________________________________________

SATURDAY 7 DECEMBER

BBC1 schedule changes

2:35pm Rugby Union - as scheduled
4:30pm Final Score (BBC1 Scotland: Sportscene Results / BBC1 Wales: Wales on Saturday) - was 4:40pm
5:10pm BBC News - as scheduled

The schedule then runs as published until:

12:45am Friday Night with Jonathan Ross - five minutes longer than billed
1:35am A Question of Sport - was 1:30am
2:10am Top of the Pops - was 2:05am
2:40am BBC News 24 - was 2:35am
___________________________________________

SUNDAY 8 DECEMBER

BBC1 schedule changes

10:00pm BBC News - as billed
10:15pm Panorama
11:00pm Film: Arachnophobia - was 10:55pm
12:45am The Sky at Night
1:05am Film: Lust for Murder - 12:45am
2:30am BBC News 24 - was 2:10am
___________________________________________

MONDAY 9 DECEMBER

BBC1 schedule changes

4:30pm Ace Lightning - as scheduled
4:55pm Blue Peter - was 5:00pm
5:20pm CBBC at the Fame Academy - was 4:55pm
525pm Newsround - as scheduled

The schedule then runs as published until:

7:30pm Nursing in Crisis: 4x4 Reports

The scheduled programme Victoria's Story: 4x4 Reports will be shown on Monday 16 December.
__________________________________________

ITV1 schedule changes (please see below for ITV1 Scottish/Grampian)

9:00pm Film: Outbreak - replaces Stan the Man
10:00pm ITV News at Ten
10:30pm Film: Outbreak - continued
12:05am The Premiership on Monday - was 11:30pm
12:55am Champions' League Weekly - was 12:30am
1:20am Football League Extra - was 12:55am
2:00am Today with Des and Mel - was 1:35am
2:50am The New Addams Family - was 2:25am
3:15am The Web Review - was 2:50am
3:40am Tonight with Trevor McDonald - was 3:15am
4:05am Entertainment Now! - was 3:40am
4:30am ITV Nightscreen - was 4:05am
5:30am ITV Early Morning News - as scheduled

Real Life: Addicted to Love will now be showing on Thursday 19 December.
_____________________________________________

ITV1 Scottish/Grampian schedule changes

9:00pm Film: Outbreak - replaces Stan the Man
10:00pm ITV News at Ten
10:30pm Film: Outbreak - continued
12:05am The Premiership on Monday - was 11:30pm
12:55am Champions' League Weekly - was 12:30am
1:20am Payne
1:45am Weir's Way
2:00am Today with Des and Mel
2:50am The New Addams Family
3:15am The Web Review
3:40am Scotland Today
4:05am Nightscreen
5:30am ITV Early Morning News - as scheduled
_____________________________________________

TUESDAY 10 DECEMBER

BBC2 morning schedule change

6:50am Ever Wondered? - was 6:30am
_____________________________________________

BBC1 afternoon schedule changes

4:30pm Viva S Club
4:55pm SMart - was 5:00pm
5:20pm CBBC at the Fame Academy - was 4:55pm
5:25pm Newsround - as scheduled
_____________________________________________

ITV1 schedule changes (please see below for ITV1 Scottish/Grampian)

10:40pm ITV News at Ten
11:10pm Countdown to the Comedy Awards 2002
11:55pm Champions' League - was 11:10pm
12:55am Strictly Soho - was 12:15am
1:20am The Machine - was 12:40am
1:45am Wyclef Jean: In Profile - was 1:05am
2:10am Champions' League - was 1:30am
3:50am World Sport - was 3:10am
4:15am Football League Extra - was 3:35am
4:55am Nightscreen - was 4:15am
5:30am ITV Morning News - as scheduled
___________________________________________

ITV1 Scottish/Grampian schedule changes

10:40pm ITV News at Ten
11:10pm Countdown to the Comedy Awards 2002
11:55pm Champions' League - was 11:10pm
12:55am Cairt-Turais
1:25am Co Is Cuin
1:55am JJ72: In Profile
2:25am Cybernet
2:55am World Sport
3:25am North Tonight
3:50am Nightscreen
5:30am ITV Morning News - as scheduled
____________________________________________

Kind regards,

Radio Times
http://www.radiotimes.beeb.com/content/schedule_updates/
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[woody]

Any chance of getting some detailed entries for Sky247 (Classics TV)

[Tom123]

provider: Sky Digital (England line up)
channel: 420 (NASN)
problem: no listings except generic 4-hour-slots "North American Sports Network"

[sjp]

Sky Digital
Sky One
SM3

New programme "Jeremiah" starts on Monday 16th as Tivo correctly shows. The following week, Monday 23rd, Tivo has another programme (sorry can't remember what) listed.

Digiguide reports the following dates/times...

23/12/2002 23:00
30/12/2002 22:50
06/01/2002 22:00 and thereafter each Monday at 22:00

please confirm times and correct Tivo listings, wife wants a look at Luke Perry again. ;)

thanks in advance

stuart

[cwaring]

Originally posted by sjp
New programme "Jeremiah" starts on Monday 16th as Tivo correctly shows. The following week, Monday 23rd, Tivo has another programme (sorry can't remember what) listed.

Same here in WF1 with TWAD. I've just rung it in to Tivo CS. If other people could do the same so they know it's popular, that'd be great :)

[sjp]

Jeremiah was corrected in last nights dialup.

thanks if thanks are due

stuart

[cwaring]

Originally posted by sjp
Jeremiah was corrected in last nights dialup.

thanks if thanks are due

stuart

It would be nice to think so, but as the 'lead time' on these is around five days I seriously doubt it :)

[sjp]

i though they might've spotted it and fixed it themselves -hahahahahahaha

[geecross]

Tried recording 3 separate biographies from this channel. What a nightmare!! TiVo has the name Biography for every hour and you have to search through every episode to find the one you want unless you use another form of TV guide to find specifically when its on.

Any chance of a better system for this?

[dallardice]

Originally posted by geecross
Any chance of a better system for this?

The easiest thing to do is to select one programme and then "View Upcoming Episodes" - that will list them all with the subject for you to pick which you want to record.

[geecross]

Originally posted by dallardice
The easiest thing to do is to select one programme and then "View Upcoming Episodes" - that will list them all with the subject for you to pick which you want to record.

Which is what I had to resort to - but it currently broadcasts 140 episodes a week so it takes AGES!!

[digital_S]

The film, Speed 2:Cruise Control is scheduled for Friday 13th @ 8:30pm on TiVo and Digiguide, but since seeing the advert for it, on ITV1, they show it on @ 9pm! Which is the correct time?

[PeteM]

Postcode: IG10
Provider: NTL (ex C&W) Digital
Channel: ITV1
Ch No: 3
Prog name: Wire in the Blood (ep: Justice painted blind)
Time/Date: 21.00, Thurs 19th December.

Problem: This is part 2 of a 2 part episode, but has the same description as part 1 (shown 21.00 on 12th Dec), hence skipped under 28 day rule. In fact, it is part 1 that has the incorrect description, being that of part 2)

[Vargster]

Postcode: MK5
Provider: Freeview
Channel: BBC Choice
Ch No: 7
Prog name: What Not to Wear
Time/Date: 21.00, Monday 9th December.

Problem: The Tivo recorded 21:30-22:00 according to it's schedule,
but the snow was on at 21:00.

[Bones]

Postcode : SS5
Sky Digital, MTV (440)
Sunday 8 December, 2230

TiVo thought "Jackass" was showing
Actually showing (and reported correctly in Sky EPG) was "Real World"

[TMW2N]

postcode: G67
channel: 7
name: BBC Choice
programme: ed stone is dead

I have a first run only SP for this on BBC Choice. the one tonight is the same as yesterday and sunday, but they all recorded as they were shown as different episodes. dunno if its the programmme guide data or BBC have made a mess of things.
bit late reporting it now, since its on this evening, but i only went to watch them just now

[sjp]

BBC 2 London
commencing Dec 21st various times.

almost daily rerun of Never Mind The Buzzcocks Dec 21st through Dec 30th (last date currently showing on Digiguide) - Tivo seems to think that it is the same episode that is being shown night after night after night.

Funnily enough it isn't, the programme description is for the episode being broadcast on the 26th.

Please fix

stuart

[sjp]

BBC Radio 7
Sky Digital and Freeview

Dead Ringers started life as a BBC Radio 4 show. it recently started, as a TV programme, on BBC2.

Watch out for other shows like this, Goodness Gracious Me is another example... If anybody hasn't heard the original Radio shows then I STRONGLY advise a listen.

The old Radio4 shows are being re-run on BBC Radio7 but have the TV programme descriptions showing.

BBC Radio 7, in general, has pretty lousy listings - any chance of an improvement? Digiguide has *far* better listings (so they're available from somewhere) and as there are quite a few books being serialised it's going to be pretty hard to keep track of the individual episodes.

thanks in advance

stuart

[dallardice]

Originally posted by sjp
BBC 2 London
commencing Dec 21st various times.

almost daily rerun of Never Mind The Buzzcocks Dec 21st through Dec 30th (last date currently showing on Digiguide) - Tivo seems to think that it is the same episode that is being shown night after night after night.


I haven't looked at this in detail yet, but I noticed this morning that TiVo wants to record every episode, so it cant be right that TiVo thinks it's the same episode every night (is this to do with the IsEpisode flag?)

Presumably this is also why they all appear in my ToDo list despite having FirstRunOnly set (altho I haven't had time to check the OADs yet).

All are repeats of episodes shown earlier this year with the exception of the show on 29 Dec at 2230, which is a new Christmas Special.

[sjp]

dallardice: a wishlist of nmtb brings up only one episode confirming, i think, that tivo believes the other episodes to be repeats of the first showing. all the programme details have the same contestants appearing (and not the actual contestants of the ep showing on the 21st).

it looks like there's a couple of series episodes according to digiguide (sean hughes appears as a team captain).

stuart

[sjp]

BBC 1 London
Only Fools And Horses
Dec14th and 25th

2 part Christmas special. my (newly created) SP is only picking up the 14th - the 25th is in recording history as won't record due to 28 day rule.

newbies watch out, a "record this episode also" for the 25th will cancel the recording for the 14th so you'll have to "record this episode also" the 14th's episode for it to be recorded.

stuart

[OzSat]

Originally posted by sjp
BBC 1 London
Only Fools And Horses
Dec14th and 25th

2 part Christmas special. my (newly created) SP is only picking up the 14th - the 25th is in recording history as won't record due to 28 day rule.

newbies watch out, a "record this episode also" for the 25th will cancel the recording for the 14th so you'll have to "record this episode also" the 14th's episode for it to be recorded.

stuart There was a problem with this - but it seems to have been fixed in today's update.

[dallardice]

Originally posted by sjp
dallardice: a wishlist of nmtb brings up only one episode confirming, i think, that tivo believes the other episodes to be repeats of the first showing.

Odd then that I have them all sitting in my ToDo list this morning; if they were all the same episode only one would record thanks to the 28-day rule.

[sjp]

i agree, very odd - perhaps the identical programme info/contestants etc. is what is causing my wishlist to show only one episode.

and thanks for id'ing the xmas special, it was searching for this that led me to spot the prog info error in the first place.

stuart

[Stimpy]

Channel: 401 (Sky Sports 1)
Platform: Sky Digital
Programme(s): Soccer AM All Sports Show & Soccer AM

Firstly the data seems to indicate these programmes are the same series as both are picked up by one season pass for Soccer AM plus it cannot differentiate between first run and repeats.

I dropped the priority to last and pruned the To Do list as it would have scheduled recording of repeats that would have resulted in missing other scheduled progs.

[chris555r]

BBC1 is showing a series of new Wallace and Gromit five minute shorts over Xmas. I noticed that one was on this evening (at 1735), but wasn't listed in the Tivo guide, the paper or tvtv. The BBC web listings showed this evening's show and one for Wednesday 18th at 1935 (though this may be a repeat of this evening's).

I'm a brand new Tivo user - should I expect to see these shorts listed in the guide, or is a five minute programme beneath Tivo's notice?

Chris

[sanderton]

Depends how it's listed - often in the supplied listings it will just be in the text of the preceding programme rather than having its own entry "...plus news and weather". There are 5 min progs listed on Tivo.

[mrtickle]

Tivo is quite happy dealing with programmes of any length - there are some good examples in the Radio 4 listings ("Prayer for the Day" at 05:43-05:45 each day, "Weather" at various start times of :57, :58 and :59 mins past the hour, and of course "Shipping Forecast" at 00:48 daily).
It's down to the broadcasters to supply correct listings. Digiguide didn't have W&G today either.

[chris555r]

Thanks guys - I guess I'll need to keep an eye on the BBC listings and programme things manually.

Chris

[digital_S]

I Set a manual recording for Talking Movies, on News 24, on BBC1.
Thanks to their brilliant timing for Engineering Works, all I got was half an hour of that 'Test Card'. Great, eh :rolleyes:

[cwaring]

There seems to be a couple of errors with the OAD/IsEp info for "Buffy".

1. THIS THURSDAY'S land-mark musical episode has not been picked up by my FRO SP. Before you say "well, it shouldn't be as it's not the official First Run" I will tell you that all other episodes thus far of Season 6 have been succesfully recorded :)

2. My FRO SP was going to record "Bargaining, Pt1" on 2/1/03 @ 8pm. Curiously, it hadn't scheduled part two which follows it. It had also planned to record "Once More With Feeling" @ 9:50pm after the two eps already mentioned.

[sjp]

don't think my SP for BBC2 Buffy is FRO but i did notice that the OAD for Once more... and for next weeks Tabula Rasa is the BBC2 air date and not the Sky One date.

possibly worth padding Once More... as it originally ran for more than the usual US hour - i don't know what an advert free BBC showing of this episode should be but it's only scheduled for the standard 45 mins. maybe they've edited it down a bit.

carl, digiguide has the 2/1/03 Sky One 8pm showing as a double episode running from 8pm straight through to 9:50. does this explain anything? can't check tivo myself at the moment

stuart

[cwaring]

Originally posted by sjp
possibly worth padding Once More... as it originally ran for more than the usual US hour - i don't know what an advert free BBC showing of this episode should be but it's only scheduled for the standard 45 mins. maybe they've edited it down a bit.
There were two different versions made. One that fitted into the standard 1 hour (with ads, 45 mins without) and a slightly longer version that was only ever shown once in the US and was not intended for broadcast outside America. Somehow, Sky got the rights to show the longer version but I think it is the shorter version that the BBC will be showing.

carl, digiguide has the 2/1/03 Sky One 8pm showing as a double episode running from 8pm straight through to 9:50. does this explain anything? can't check tivo myself at the moment
They are listed as seperate episodes within the Tivo EPG:
8:00pm - 8:55pm and 8:55pm-9:50pm.
"OMWF" follows @ 9:50pm-10:50pm. This will the shorter version as outlined above :)

[sanderton]

Channel: Sky One (106)
Date: 28th/29th Dec
Programme: Jack and The Beanstalk

I'm a bit confused by this one. Sky are running promos for this (I think) 2 part fantasy programme based on the fairy tale on the 28th.

The EPG doesn't list it at all on Sky One. It does list it on Sky One Extra, but incorrectly gives it the same details as a showing of the pantomime on ITV2. It doesn't realise the the two episodes are two parts of the same show.

Correction: its listed on Sky One as Jim Henson's Jack and The Beanstalk. The EPG says the same 2 hr programme is going to be shown on succesive nights at 7.30; surely this must be a 2 parter?

[OzSat]

Originally posted by sanderton
Channel: Sky One (106)
Date: 28th/29th Dec
Programme: Jack and The Beanstalk

I'm a bit confused by this one. Sky are running promos for this (I think) 2 part fantasy programme based on the fairy tale on the 28th.

The EPG doesn't list it at all on Sky One. It does list it on Sky One Extra, but incorrectly gives it the same details as a showing of the pantomime on ITV2. It doesn't realise the the two episodes are two parts of the same show. SkyOneMix has correct times but wrong details - it is on SkyOne as Jim Henson's Jack & The Beanstalk: The Real Story. The SP seems OK.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by ozsat
SkyOneMix has correct times but wrong details - it is on SkyOne as Jim Henson's Jack & The Beanstalk: The Real Story. The SP seems OK.

is it a two parter? The EPG shows the same film shown on successive nights on Sky One, which would be odd!

Edit: Just aw the SP option; never seen that on a film with a star rating before!

[OzSat]

Originally posted by sanderton
is it a two parter? The EPG shows the same film shown on successive nights on Sky One, which would be odd! It is spread over two nights - a booked an SP which has added both nights.

The DVD runs for 184minutes - so allowing for tv ads you can easily make it 4 hours.

[scoopuk]

Boxing Day 26/12
Channel: five
8-40pm - 9-40pm Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show

TiVo iEPG incorrectly repeats details from the previous day's BBC1 programme - their 1973 special.

In fact, this programme is from 1981, with guests Ralph Richardson, Robert Hardy, Ian Ogilvy and Susannah York

[DMc]

Sat 28 Dec & Sun 29 Dec
BBC7 (Freeview Channel 78)
All day

That weekend is missing programme info. We only have generic "BBC Radio 7" although the normal programme titles are there from now up to Fri 27 Dec and from Mon 30 Dec to Fri 3 Jan.

[mrtickle]

Confirmed, same problem here on the DSAT version of BBC7 (sky channel 922) :(

[fishd]

Channel: 440 (MTV)
Date: Mon 16th Dec
Programme: Alicia Keys

Twice now my Tivo has been set (picked from a programme title search) to record this and both times I get something completely different, on this particular occasion I got an hour of "Linkin Park"...

[OzSat]

I often find that the Sky EPG data for MTV and VH-1 doesn't match the actual programmes.

[JohnMalone]

Postcode
WR14
- Service Provider
aerial only
- Channel Name
ITV1
- Channel Number
43

For the last several months I have had no program information for ITV1 on Saturdays and Sundays.
Once again there this weekend (the 21st and 22nd), I just have blocks of 2 hours 'ITV Programming'.
This Saturday, BBC2 has the same problem.

I have posted about this a couple of times already without any apparent results. Does anyone from Tivo actually read this stuff?

John Malone

[OzSat]

Originally posted by JohnMalone
Postcode
WR14
- Service Provider
aerial only
- Channel Name
ITV1
- Channel Number
43

For the last several months I have had no program information for ITV1 on Saturdays and Sundays.
Once again there this weekend (the 21st and 22nd), I just have blocks of 2 hours 'ITV Programming'.
This Saturday, BBC2 has the same problem.

I have posted about this a couple of times already without any apparent results. Does anyone from Tivo actually read this stuff?

John Malone Officially - no they don't. There are a few TiVo staff on the forums, but they are not here to take fault reports.

If anybody has any sort of problem, they should call TiVo CS.

The problem you mention is not a general problem - occasionally a couple of people report similar listing issues - but are normally fixed with a daily call.

These forums are not official forums - and your should not expect any official responce when using them.

If you say which channel it is, then I can check the listings - there is no ITV1 channel on TiVo - the callsign is longer to identify the region. I would also need the full BBC2 callsign.

[pmk]

Too late to do anything about this now but my TiVo has decided that Faking It was not on this evening on C4 @ 21:00. This is even though I have a Season Pass defined - clearly the guide data is not correct / screwed up. I have not even got an item in the Recording History. This is the same problem as reported several weeks ago.

We need to rename to Season Pass (bar several episodes)!

I am really considering change to Title Wish Lists at leasts these should ALWAYS catch the programs but I tried converting before but when you use Upcoming Episode on a wish list it sometime does not list all episodes for some reason!

[sjp]

pmk: wishlists don't show "2nd showings" of programmes, keeps the overall count down as, as i recently discovered, there is a limit of 200 progs show when down a show all wishlists.

[csansbury]

Originally posted by pmk
Too late to do anything about this now but my TiVo has decided that Faking It was not on this evening on C4 @ 21:00. This is even though I have a Season Pass defined - clearly the guide data is not correct / screwed up. I have not even got an item in the Recording History. This is the same problem as reported several weeks ago.


I don't know if you knew this, but as far as I know last night's episode was a repeat of a fairly recent episode.

[sjp]

Enterprise
Sky Digital - SKY1
SM3
Jan 6th

Tivo shows Shockwave part 1 at 20:00 and Shockwave part 2 at 21:00 but DigiGuide has eps 1 and 2 of season 2. The tivo view sounds more likely, final episode of last season and season premiere of this, but somethings not quite right somewhere.

thanks for the Never Mind the Buzzcocks correction, it's uncovered the only episode i've ever missed.

stuart

[cwaring]

Originally posted by csansbury
I don't know if you knew this, but as far as I know last night's episode was a repeat of a fairly recent episode.

Well, one from the last series earlier this year, anyway :)

[sanderton]

Originally posted by sanderton
Channel: Sky One (106)
Date: 28th/29th Dec
Programme: Jack and The Beanstalk

I'm a bit confused by this one. Sky are running promos for this (I think) 2 part fantasy programme based on the fairy tale on the 28th.

The EPG doesn't list it at all on Sky One. It does list it on Sky One Extra, but incorrectly gives it the same details as a showing of the pantomime on ITV2. It doesn't realise the the two episodes are two parts of the same show.

Correction: its listed on Sky One as Jim Henson's Jack and The Beanstalk. The EPG says the same 2 hr programme is going to be shown on succesive nights at 7.30; surely this must be a 2 parter?

Fixed, thanks! (Just thought I'd post as some don't beleive anything changes if iyou report thinsg here!)

[bobnick]

Originally posted by sanderton
Fixed, thanks! (Just thought I'd post as some don't beleive anything changes if iyou report thinsg here!)

I don't think people believe that this thread is jinxed and that any mention of a problem here will stop it ever being fixed; more that Tribune don't seem to monitor the thread with any regularity, so errors should be reported directly to Tivo CS too. Go on, it's nearly christmas!

[scoopuk]

Lots of late changes to the Xmas schedules have now been advised by Radio Times
There's so many I posted them in a seperate thread.

[wayno]

c4 both Bull and Philly seem to overlap according to the listings on Tivo- even though they are both on C4 i.e a season pass for the pair produces numerous clashes,

[cwaring]

Originally posted by wayno
c4 both Bull and Philly seem to overlap according to the listings on Tivo- even though they are both on C4 i.e a season pass for the pair produces numerous clashes,

How can two programmes on the same channel overlap? Do they start "Philly" before "Bull" has finished? I don't think so :).

Your SPs will 'clash' probably becuase you've padded "Philly". Try removing changing the SP to end on time :D

ENTERTAINMENT: Bull
Channel: Channel 4
Date: Tuesday 24th December 2002
Time: 01:45 to 02:35
Duration: 50 minutes.

DRAMA: Philly
Channel: Channel 4
Date: Tuesday 24th December 2002
Time: 02:35 to 03:20
Duration: 45 minutes.

Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.digiguide.com. Copyright ©1999-2002 GipsyMedia Ltd. Information copied from DigiGuide cannot be re-distributed, sold or used without prior written consent from GipsyMedia Ltd. All rights reserved.


Sorry if I've mis-understood you :)

[woody]

Sky Digital
SkyOne (106)
Crash Palace
2/3/4/7/8/9 January 2003
Problem. The OAD for this appears to be wrong. A First Run SP, has picked this up as a new series/shows.

[wayno]

cwaring- that was my whole point! - BUT with tail between my legs, I checked, and seem, somehow to have padded Bull by 5 minutes. whoops! sorry.
( as a matter of interest, I changed to SP to end on time, BUT Tivo isn't pickinign up the fact that Philly should now be recordable- presume I should rdelete the season pass for Philly then re- add it? )

[sjp]

wayno: i'd check later or before you go to bed tonight. tivo is continually working in the background on things like this. i'm sure it'll realise that philly is now recordable and schedule it accordingly. it can be a bit worrying to not see it instantly appear and, more often than not, i'll schedule the next showing of a programme just to be safe.

stuart

[sjp]

it's new season time...

all London area, SM3 to be exact.

E4
Sky Digital
Jan 9th
ER
OAD is 1/12/2002. it's a new series so should really have a more accurate OAD. EDIT: due to this incorrect OAD an FRO SP will fail to pick this episode up.

Sky One and, no doubt, Sky One Mix
Sky Digital
Jan 9th
Angel
Generic Data from way back. OAD of 5/10/99. it's reputed to be the start of S4.

Sky One and, no doubt, Sky One Mix
Sky Digital
Jan 9th
Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

Tivo showing After Life (season 6 episode 3) at 8pm. DigiGuide is showing the new S7 run starting with episode 1, Lessons.

[M_at]

I've recently noticed that TiVo is showing the episode details for some channels about one episode out of step.

Examples that I can remember arre Will & Grace on Living and Home Front in the Garden on UK Style.

Is anyone else noticing similar?

[sjp]

not sure i follow, are the out of step episodes the 3 i posted about?

ER has the correct programme details but the OAD is possibly the US OAD. not a crucial error but an error all the same. EDIT: this is a crucial error as, as sanderton points out below, an FRO SP will fail to pick this episode up.

BtVS season 6 ep 3 details are a long way from the start of season 7 when several places (DigiGuide for example) report the start of the new season.

and Angel looks to have an OAD from season 1 along with generic data. this *should* be the start of s4. digiguide shows, for once, no more detail than arrived last night.

if you are referring to another post then please excuse me, my confusion.

stuart

[sanderton]

Channel: Channel 4
Programme: Smack The Pony
Date: 26/12, 3/1 and others
Platform: All

There are two brand new episodes of Smack the Pony being shown over Xmas, one on Dec 26, one on Jan 3.

The guide data has had a complete meltdown on this.

The 26 Dec episode is showing as "Smack The Pony" with generic data.

The Feb 3 episode is showing as "Smack The Pony Specials" with details saing it is part one of 2 (it is in fact part 2 of 2) Setting a SP for STP Specials does not pick up this episode, suggesting some other wieredness in the data.

Both episodes are also on E4 at various times, and seem similarly mixed up.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by sjp
ER has the correct programme details but the OAD is possibly the US OAD. not a crucial error but an error all the same.


It is crucial - First Run Only SP will not record it!

[sjp]

now you got me worried, i'm sure my FRO took this afternoon when i set it up. going to check - yup you're right, i hadn't set it as FRO. deleted SP recreated as FRO and it didn't pick up.

will edit above to correct, thanks

[mrtickle]

(Note: I have pasted in some URLs to the MFS resources on tivoweb. If you have access to a UK tivo with tivoweb installed great, if not hopefully the IDs will be relevant enough to help track down the problems - they should match Tribune IDs hopefully)


Season Pass errors
==================

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two (BBC2, BBC2SCD, BBC2WD, BBC2NID)
Channel Number: (102, 960, 961, 962)
Programme Name: Room 101
Time/Date of airing: Tue 7th Jan 22:00

1. I have a season pass set up last year (http://tivo/series/334184 on tivoweb). The new series has been put into the wrong series id (http://tivo/series/40796). Please fix and put back in the original SP.

2. The synopsis describes an episode which was shown last year, but the OAD is set to the broadcast date. They can't both be right! Either it's a re-run in which case the OAD is wrong and it shouldn't be flagged as a First Run, or the synopsis is wrong and needs amending.

--------------

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two (BBC2, BBC2NID), UK History (UKHSTY)
Channel Number: (102, 962), 582
Programme Name: Timewatch
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

The real Timewatch SP (http://tivo/series/594573) has episodes scheduled and is ok.

Unfortunately a whole chunk of episodes have been orphaned into a 2nd SP (http://tivo/series/659081). Please fix and put back in the original SP
orphan episodes are on UK History:
Mon 23rd Dec 07:00, 13:00, 19:00
Thu 26th Dec 11:00, 17:00, 23:00
Fri 27th Dec 10:00, 16:00, 22:00
Thu 2nd Jan 11:00, 17:00, 23:00

and two orphans on BBC2:
Fri 10th Jan 21:00 BBC2 and BBC2NID

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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Channel Four (C4), E4 (E4)
Channel Number: 104, 205
Programme Name: Top Ten
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

The real Top Ten SP which I set up last year is http://tivo/series/344462
and contains "Progressive Rock" on Sat 4th Jan 01:55 - ok.

unfortunately some episodes have been orphaned into a new 2nd SP:
http://tivo/series/728125 . This is the same series. Please fix and put back in the original SP.

orphan episodes are all on C4:
Thu 26th Dec 00:35
Mon 30th Dec 00:05
Mon 30th Dec 22:15
Wed 1st Jan 00:30

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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK History (UKHSTY)
Channel Number: 582
Programme Name: Reputations
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

The real SP which I set up months ago is http://tivo/series/451383
"Robert Kennedy", shown Sat 21st Dec at 11:00, was correctly under this SP.

Unfortunately again, a load of episodes have been orphaned into a new imposter SP:
http://tivo/series/659265 . This is the same series. Please fix and put back in the original SP.

orphan episodes are all on UK History:
Wed 1st Jan 07:00, 13:00, 19:00
Mon 6th Jan 07:00, 10:00, 11:00, 13:00, 16:00, 17:00, 19:00, 22:00, 23:00 (phew!)
Fri 10th Jan 07:00, 13:00, 19:00

--------------

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two (BBC2, BBC2SCD, BBC2WD, BBC2NID), Challenge TV (CHALL)
Channel Number: (102, 960, 961, 962), 121
Programme Name: Treasure Hunt
Time/Date of airing: various

This series was recently brought back to BBC2 with a new season. But it appeared under a
new SP ( http://tivo/series/713878 ) and not the original Challenge TV SP ( http://tivo/series/10035 ) even though it is the same series

They are the same series and should ideally be under the same SP.

But the horse has now bolted, everyone who liked the new season on BBC2 will have created one of the "wrong" season passes. So if it is fixed they will complain. But eventually Challenge TV will show these new episodes too and then there will be the problem of two SPs for Challenge TV? I'll leave it to you to decide what to do about it! :D


First Run errors
================

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One (SKYONE)
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: Malcolm in the Middle
Time/Date of airing: various see below

1. Episode "Christmas", Tue 24th Dec 22:50, is a First Run (UK OAD 22nd Dec 2002), but has a wrong OAD of Sun 10th Nov 2002. This means it is not picked up by FRO SP. Please fix the OAD if there is time.

2. Guide data is missing for Fri 3rd Jan 20:00. Digiguide claims it is "Smunday".

--------------

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One (SKYONE)
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: South Park
Time/Date of airing: Sun 5th Jan 23:00

This episode 206: "Jimbo and Ned" (Sky's own silly made-up title) aka "The Mexican Staring Frog Of Southern Sri Lanka" (the proper title) is marked as a First Run in the guide data. It is not. It was shown on Sky on 21st June 2001 and possibly again since.


Other errors
============

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus (GPLUS)
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Columbo (series)
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Previously reported but still not fixed. :(

Every single broadcast on G+ has the synopsis missing, the actors missing, the directors missing, and the Original Air Dates set to 2002!

I *know* that good guide data exists for this series - please put it back! :mad:

Episodes affected are:

ep 37105, "Mind Over Mayhem" Tue 24th_Dec 18:00 EP0010050017
ep 40701, "Playback" Wed 25th_Dec 18:00 EP0010050024
ep 40721, "A Deadly State of Mind" Thu 26th_Dec 18:00 EP0010050029
ep 42904, "A Case of Immunity" Fri 27th_Dec 18:00 EP0010050032
ep 42903, "A Matter of Honor" Sat 28th_Dec 18:00 EP0010050031
ep 45902, "Fade In to Murder" Mon 30th_Dec 14:00 EP0010050037
ep 45902, "Fade In to Murder" Mon 30th_Dec 20:30 EP0010050037
ep 45901, "Old-Fashioned Murder" Tue 31st_Dec 20:30 EP0010050036
ep 45913, "The Bye-Bye Sky-High IQ Murder Case" Wed 1st_Jan 11:00 EP0010050038
ep 45913, "The Bye-Bye Sky-High IQ Murder Case" Wed 1st_Jan 20:30 EP0010050038
ep 45914, "Try & Catch Me" Thu 2nd_Jan 20:30 EP0010050039
ep 49703, "Murder Under Glass" Fri 3rd_Jan 14:30 EP0010050042
ep 49703, "Murder Under Glass" Fri 3rd_Jan 20:30 EP0010050042
ep 49701, "How to Dial a Murder" Sat 4th_Jan 13:00 EP0010050040
ep 49701, "How to Dial a Murder" Sat 4th_Jan 19:00 EP0010050040


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: ITV1 (all regions)
Channel Number: 103 (+ others)
Programme Name: Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: Mon 23rd Dec 19:30

This episode is missing completely from the guide data. (It has an hour-long Emmerdale instead)

Bit late to do anything about it now, sorry about that.


--------------

Merry xmas one and all! :D

[sjp]

and another OAD error for another new season show

E4
Sky Digital
Jan 9th (and many other times during the week no doubt)

Friends

new season, not being picked up on an FRO SP due to OAD of 1/12/2002

that would now make 4 shows starting new seasons on the same evening, not one of them having accurate data.

keep up the good work :(

[Gonker]

Too late to make a difference but Tivo missed Coronation St. ITV Ch. 23 @ 7.30pm tonight.It thought Emmerdale was on for an hour.

[GordonJ]

Postcode: HA0
Service Provider: ntl: digital cable
Channel Name: CNX
Channel Number: 903

Can't really give a programme name as it appears to be the whole morning schedule is a bit out of kilter. From what I can tell they've taking out their (annoying) 5 min long channel promo's (between every show and every ad break).

eg Tenchi In Tokyo now runs from 9:55 to 10:20 (as opposed to 10:30 - 11:00).

[tdenson]

Originally posted by Gonker
Too late to make a difference but Tivo missed Coronation St. ITV Ch. 23 @ 7.30pm tonight.It thought Emmerdale was on for an hour.

Yes, that caused havoc in my household as well. Not very good when I notice someone else has pointed out that Tivo managed to miss Eastenders as well this Christmas - top two programs both screwed up.

Digiguide at £5 a year got it right.

[Big-bill3]

We set up Only Fools and Horses on Christmas day with a 5 min overrun, but it still missed the end.
Was this us or what?

[sanderton]

Same here.

[sjp]

as per E4 OAD problem. C4 is now showing Friends only 1 day after E4 broadcasts. it's the same data so any fix should cover both channels.

C4
Sky Digital
Jan 10th

Friends

new season, not being picked up on an FRO SP due to OAD of 1/12/2002

[DazBarber]

Originally posted by Big-bill3
We set up Only Fools and Horses on Christmas day with a 5 min overrun, but it still missed the end.
Was this us or what?

Hmmm, strange... I recorded OFAH without an overrun because I also recorded French and Saunders (which followed).

Only about a minute and a half of OFAH was missing at the end of the OFAH recording and the remaining bits of OFAH (most of which were end credits) were at the start of the French and Saunders recording.

How come you still missed the end with a 5 minute overrun?

Which platform did you record from? I recorded from Sky - maybe some other platforms were experiencing a 10 minute delay or something?

Daz

[DazBarber]

Programme name: The Adventure Game
Channel: Challenge
Platform: Sky Digital
Date: Weekends from Jan 4th 2003

Really glad that TiVo warned me about this being shown, but it seems to want to record an 8am showing on Saturdays and Sundays as well as a mid afternoon showing. All editions appear to have the same OAD but I would bet that the afternoon showings are a repeat of the morning showings. Unfortunately there's not enough of a description to be able to tell.

Daz

[OzSat]

Originally posted by DazBarber
Programme name: The Adventure Game
Channel: Challenge
Platform: Sky Digital
Date: Weekends from Jan 4th 2003

Really glad that TiVo warned me about this being shown, but it seems to want to record an 8am showing on Saturdays and Sundays as well as a mid afternoon showing. All editions appear to have the same OAD but I would bet that the afternoon showings are a repeat of the morning showings. Unfortunately there's not enough of a description to be able to tell.

Daz There are a lot of 'classic' gameshows on Challenge over the Christmas/New Year period.

But Challenge didn't seem to release any information as too which were repeated episodes and which were new (to Challenge episodes).

It is worth recording all occurances as some of the programmes are running with more than one episode.

[Otto-Mate]

Trying to record "Top Gear" then "The Fight Christmas Special" straight after (both BBC2).

But Tivo thinks they overlap by 5 minutes??

Thanks.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by Otto-Mate
Trying to record "Top Gear" then "The Fight Christmas Special" straight after (both BBC2).

But Tivo thinks they overlap by 5 minutes??

Thanks. The TiVo listings are unable to overlap and work fine here.

One must already be set on your TiVo with padding via an SP or wishlist ?

[cwaring]

Was going to post about new "Friends" but instead I'll add that I have just reported it to Tivo CS and the problem has yet to be fixed!!

FYI, the first episode of the new Series is called "The One Where No One Proposes". See here (http://epguides.com/Friends/) for full details.

[Richardr]

Those who want to record The Premiership tonight as part of a season ticket should check their to do list.

This morning's repeat incorrectly recorded for me, but tonight's highlights of today's games will not as TIVO has it down as a repeat of yesterday's programme.

[scoopuk]

Originally posted by sjp
and another OAD error for another new season show

E4
Sky Digital
Jan 9th (and many other times during the week no doubt)

Friends

new season, not being picked up on an FRO SP due to OAD of 1/12/2002

that would now make 4 shows starting new seasons on the same evening, not one of them having accurate data.

keep up the good work :(


The Friends new season appears to be running on Thursday nights on E4, followed by Friday nights on Channel 4
(so a title wish list flagged as First Run only should do the trick, if the FRO issue was resolved)

And there's possibly a similar issue with another new season programme: Sex and the City

E4 & Channel 4
Sky Digital

From Jan 1st

The new season and previous season programmes appear to be all flagged as First Run Only.

First Run (ie the new season) of Sex and the City is scheduled for Wednesday nights on Channel 4, then on Tuesday nights on E4

full channel schedules at channel4.com/press/

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Channel 4 (C4)
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Beneath the Planet of the Apes
Time/Date of airing: unclear

This film seems to have been rescheduled. The printed Radio Times had it on Sat 4th Jan at 13:45 (I think - can't check any more).

TiVo has it on Thur 2nd Jan at 01:45.

But Digiguide, Radio Times online, and the Channel 4 website have it on Sat 4th Jan at 03:20!

[weeble]

with apologies to ozsat for originally posting this in the wrong place (doh - it's been a while since I've spotted one of these)....

Postcode: HA0
Service Provider: ntl: digital cable
Channel Name: CNX
Channel Number: 903

Can't really give a programme name as it appears to be the whole morning schedule is a bit out of kilter. From what I can tell they've taking out their (annoying) 5 min long channel promo's (between every show and every ad break).

eg Tenchi In Tokyo now runs from 9:55 to 10:20 (as opposed to 10:30 - 11:00).
(GORDONJ - can't remember when it was posted though)


I have the same problem here (LS12 NTL Digital ex-C&W - same channel details). Basically the schedule's completely wrong from early morning until 4:30pm - every day. TiVo listings have pretty much all progs down as having a hour or a half hour slot (e.g. without listing the entire day: 7-8am Dragonball Z; 8-8:30am X-Men: Evolution etc) whereas programmes do not really start every half hour (Digiguide and the NTL epg show 7-7:50am Dragonball Z; 7:50-8:15am X-Men:Evolution...)

[Adder]

Postcode: BS7
Provider: Sky Digital UK
Channel: British Eurosport(412 EURGB)
Programme: Auto Racing - "Dakar Rally"

The annual Dakar Rally is being shown daily by British Eurosport starting today and an attempt at a season pass, despite the fact we have the catch all title "Auto Racing" again picks up a variety of very odd things.

The show is a daily recap of the events on the Dakar I would expect the 7.30am to be a repeat of the previous days programme.

It seems it is the OAD's that are a complete mess the OAD of the episode on 3/1 is 4/1/2003, the OAD of the show on 4/1 is 5/1/2003 then the show on 5/1 also has an OAD of 5/1/2003. When I work out the show pattern I'll post a further message of what shows are the same and when the new shows are. :(

[force9]

- Postcode = BR5
- Service Provider = Sky Digital,
- Channel Name = Classics TV
- Channel Number = 247
- Programme Name = All
- Time/Date of airing = All
- Problem encountered = no listings at all

Hi Folks

Classics TV looks like a really good channel (except for interminable repeats of Bonanza), it screens both TV shows as well as old films: but there are never any listings so its impossiblre to search or use wish lists (as Tivo is virtually useless without schedule info).

Sky D does have listings however, but only for a few days.

How do I get listings for this channed and will Tivo eventually provide listings.

Force9

[Adder]

Dakar Rally

Here is the pattern:

7.30 am Repeat of previous days show

9.30 pm *NEW SHOW*

12.00 am Repeat of 9.30 pm

So a season pass should pick all of the 9.30pm shows by default.

I hope this can be fixed as the Dakar runs every day for the next three weeks.

Thanks, happy new year!

[OzSat]

Originally posted by force9
Sky D does have listings however, but only for a few days. Just a reminder that all Sky EPG channels have to provide at least one weeks worth of EPG data to Sky - it is contractual.

The data doesn't have to be correct - and sometimes isn't.

The fact that the Sky EPG data has listings has nothing to do with the fact that "listings are (or are not) available".

Have a look in Missing programme details - why? (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90503)

[JNLister]

- Postcode

M13 0DJ

- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.)

Sky Digital

- Channel Name

Sky One/Sky One Mix/Sky Sports 1-3 & Extra

- Channel Number

106, 107, 401-4

- Programme Name

WWE (Various shows including Raw, Smackdown, Velocity, Heat, Bottom Line, Afterburn and Classics, each with WWE before them)

- Time/Date of airing

Various

- Problem encountered

No programme information meaning all repeat showings of each programme are treated as a new edition.

[bobnick]

Thurs 9th Jan, ITV1 London
7.30 pm - 'The Tube' - in reality, a documentary about the underground. Tivo however has very little info on the show, and the bits it does have have come from Channel 4's classic northen music show 'The Tube'.

[Chris B]

"Tarrant on TV" missing completely from my TV listings yesterday ??? (02/01/03 10.30pm ITV)

[Tobers]

Why does The Premiership on ITV have an adult rating?

[Rob Randall]

I have a SP for Time Team on Discovery Channel (Sky 551) and so other Time Team programs on Disc+1 (Sky 552) and C4 (104) get recorded as suggestions.

I was a little surprised when a Time Team Jubilee Special was recorded as a suggestion from BBC2 Wales (Sky 961). When played it turned out to be Tune Team Jubilee Special showing the Queen's Jubilee celebrations in Cardiff from Summer 2002.

:mad:

[Adder]

Originally posted by JNLister
- Postcode

M13 0DJ

- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.)

Sky Digital

- Channel Name

Sky One/Sky One Mix/Sky Sports 1-3 & Extra

- Channel Number

106, 107, 401-4

- Programme Name

WWE (Various shows including Raw, Smackdown, Velocity, Heat, Bottom Line, Afterburn and Classics, each with WWE before them)

- Time/Date of airing

Various

- Problem encountered

No programme information meaning all repeat showings of each programme are treated as a new edition.

Can I endorse this one!

There are a number of things which need alteration.

1. WWE Smackdown! - There are two versions of this show.
- The version on Sky One/Sky One Mix should be titled "WWE Smackdown!"
- The version on Sky Sports (1,2,3,Extra) should be titled "WWE Late Night Smackdown!"

The same issue occurs for "WWE Afterburn" and "WWE The Bottom Line"

2. Shows need to be set with isEpisode=True I believe, effectively it needs to be treated the same way as Eastenders. There is a new episode of each show every week.

These are the approximate first showings for each show, all other showings up to six days after the first airing on any other channel are repeats of that first showing.

Title Channel First Showing

*WWE Raw Sky Sports (1/2/3/Extra) Fridays starting some time between 9pm and Midnight
WWE Smackdown! Sky One Saturday 10am
WWE The Bottom Line Sky One Saturday 12 noon
*WWE Late Night Smackdown! Sky Sports (1/2/3/Extra) Saturdays starting some time between 9pm and Midnight
WWE Afterburn Sky One Sundays 10am
WWE Heat Sky One Sundays 11am
*WWE Velocity Sky Sports (1/2/3/Extra) Sundays starting some time between 9pm and Midnight
*WWE Late Night Afterburn Sky Sports Extra Mondays starting some time between 9pm and Midnight
*WWE Late Night The Bottom Line Sky Sports Extra Tuesdays starting some time between 9pm and Midnight
*WWE Wrestling Classics Sky Sports (1/2/3/Extra) Thursdays starting some time between 6am and 9am

* These shows have no fixed start time or channel so I have listed all possible channels the showing may be on and the range of time the showing starts in.

I hope this makes the problem clearer. ;)

[Dazbear]

How soon before new channels go live are their added? FTN and UKbright ideas still have blank listings.

Mind you their own websites dont show anything either.

Darren

[woody]

- Postcode = TA20
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) =Sky Digital
- Channel Name =E4
- Channel Number =205
- Programme Name =ER
- Time/Date of airing =22.00 09/01/2003
- Problem encountered =OAD is wrong, should not read 1/12/02 (FR SP won't record this show)

[Tom123]

Provider:
Sky Digital (England Lineup)
Channel:
Sky One (ch 106)
Programme:
Malcolm In The Middle
Date and time of airing:
05/01/03, 7pm
12/01/03, 7pm
19/01/03, 7pm
problem encountered:
Wrong OAD for every episode. No episode will be picked up by FRO SP!

[Tom123]

Provider:
Sky Digital (Engalnd lineup)
Channel:
Sky One (Ch 106)
Programme:
The Simpsons
date and time of airing:
05/01/03, 6.30 pm
problem encountered:
wrong OAD! Episode will not be picked up by FRO SP!

[RichardJH]

Telewest UK history for Sunday 5/01/2003
schedule does not list episodes of A History of Britain as in the order that they show to be screened according to other listings eg Digiguide

[OzSat]

Originally posted by JNLister
- Programme Name

WWE (Various shows including Raw, Smackdown, Velocity, Heat, Bottom Line, Afterburn and Classics, each with WWE before them). It would be nice to have the up-to-date synopsis details for at least Raw and Smackdown - these seem to be correct for each edition in the US - so should be copyable to the UK for screening later in the week.

[Adder]

Originally posted by ozsat
It would be nice to have the up-to-date synopsis details for at least Raw and Smackdown - these seem to be correct for each edition in the US - so should be copyable to the UK for screening later in the week.

The TiVo descriptions for the secondary shows are actually more accurate than the Sky ones particularly for Afterburn and Bottom Line!

[alexb]

Postcode: RG7
Channel: BRAVO
Provider: Sky
channel 124

I have a season pass for Gamepad 3 it seems to record both showing on the same day instead of just a single instance of the showing.

alex

[alexb]

Postcode: RG7
Channel: Paramount Comedy Channel
Provider: Sky
channel sorry can't check at the mo

I have a season pass for 3rd Rock from the sun.

I get each 'new' episode twice - once on the first showing and again on the next day on a repeat showing. I should only get one!

alex

[woody]

TA20
Paramount Comedy
Sky Digital 127
Program = MASH
Problem = A SP for this will pick up both the morning and evening showing of the same episode.

Has done for several weeks now.

[bobnick]

CD:UK is broken yet again; it wasn't a very good show this week, and i begrudge my tivo recording 3 versions of it! Why does CD:UK keep having wrong episode ids?

[force9]

- Postcode = BR5
- Service Provider = Sky Digital
- Channel Name = Sky Sports
- Channel Number =401
- Programme Name = Rugby Union Update
- Time/Date of airing = 23:00
- Problem encountered = Didn't happen! Previous programme (WWE - bad acting and soft porn) overan badly, therefore no rugby recorded. Shame!

[GarySargent]

Originally posted by force9
- Postcode = BR5
- Service Provider = Sky Digital
- Channel Name = Sky Sports
- Channel Number =401
- Programme Name = Rugby Union Update
- Time/Date of airing = 23:00
- Problem encountered = Didn't happen! Previous programme (WWE - bad acting and soft porn) overan badly, therefore no rugby recorded. Shame!

Whilst annoying there is little TiVo can do about programmes running late. Sky do not provide an open way of detecting late changes to the schedules (such as PDC), instead they have a proprietry guide data system which TiVo can't access.

(Not that TiVo understands PDC, but it might have done if PDC still existed in the digital era!)

In general its worth using padding late on at night as the days delays all accumulate and programmes often run late.

[OzSat]

Late Night WWE programming gets shifted between channels at short notice quite often - I've even had Sky+ miss my weekly dose of Trish Stratus. ;)

But you still got to see you bid hairy man grabbing at each others bodies :D

[Brownedger]

Sky Digital 402 on Tuesday 7th Jan are showing the Worthington cup Semi final at 7pm this is not listed on Tivo although the second semi played on wednesday is listed.

Sky Sports listings seem to be somewhat lacking at the moment.

[Adder]

Originally posted by force9
- Postcode = BR5
- Service Provider = Sky Digital
- Channel Name = Sky Sports
- Channel Number =401
- Programme Name = Rugby Union Update
- Time/Date of airing = 23:00
- Problem encountered = Didn't happen! Previous programme (WWE - bad acting and soft porn) overan badly, therefore no rugby recorded. Shame!

It wsn't that it overran, the schedule was changed so the schedule TiVo had was wrong WWE was changed to 22.00-0.00 and the Rugby Union Update was moved to Sky Sports 3.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Adder
Postcode: BS7
Provider: Sky Digital UK
Channel: British Eurosport(412 EURGB)
Programme: Auto Racing - "Dakar Rally"

The annual Dakar Rally is being shown daily by British Eurosport starting today and an attempt at a season pass, despite the fact we have the catch all title "Auto Racing" again picks up a variety of very odd things.

The show is a daily recap of the events on the Dakar I would expect the 7.30am to be a repeat of the previous days programme.

It seems it is the OAD's that are a complete mess the OAD of the episode on 3/1 is 4/1/2003, the OAD of the show on 4/1 is 5/1/2003 then the show on 5/1 also has an OAD of 5/1/2003. When I work out the show pattern I'll post a further message of what shows are the same and when the new shows are. :(

The guide data for the next two weeks seems to be up to par, thanks muchly! ;)

[woody]

[b]
Sky Digital
Sky one/sky onemix (106 / 107)
Jeremiah and Odyssey5
All showings listed have the wrong OAD.

[pmk]

There is a new Pop Music chart show on Channel "FIVE".

This is called "Smash Hits Chart" on the 4th Jan 03 @ 14:15 this was incorrectly called "Smash Hits Chart Of The Year".

This in turn means that the showing on 11th Jan 03 should be called "Smash Hits Chart" and be an episode - i.e. at present TiVo is saying this will not be recorded because its thinks its the same as the one on the 4th Jan 03.

The showing on 12th Jan 03 also has the incorrect programme name and this is a repeat of the 11th Jan 03. There was no repeat of the Saturday show today this week.

Summary of problems:

1. Program Name is wrong
2. Showings are incorrectly being classed as duplicated so recordings are being missed
3. The Saturday showing is the first showing
4. The Sunday showing is a repeat of the Saturdays.

All above can be confirmed on www.five.tv

HTH

[Richardr]

Originally posted by GarySargent
Whilst annoying there is little TiVo can do about programmes running late. Sky do not provide an open way of detecting late changes to the schedules (such as PDC), instead they have a proprietry guide data system which TiVo can't access. Surely the now and next is broadcast not via a proprietary system, but uses the DVB standard (and can be seen on all digital satellite receivers, even if they can decode the picture). The problem is that there is no way of signalling it to a device, such as TIVO, that uses the output from a satellite receiver, and this is the same for digital cable and DTT receivers.

The broadcasters have been working on systems to signal such information in the digital age, many are members of the TV anytime consortium
see here (www.tv-anytime.org) which is working on ways to solve the problems here. The BBC is quite prominant in this process.

[bobnick]

There's loads of errors tonight. Apart from Hornlbower's lack of description, Five has 'Dumb and Dumber' listed instead of 'Dumber and Dumber', and ITV2 has Neighbors [sic] from Hell.
As as for all the OADs that are all over the place ... :(

[snoopstah]

Postcode = CV31
Service Provider = NTL Digital
Channel Name = BBCR4FM
Channel Number = 862
Programme Name = Saturday Play
Time/Date of airing = Sat 11th Jan, 2.30pm and Sat 18th Jan, 2.30pm

Just set up a season pass to record the broadcasts of the Philip Pullman series. TiVo lists the length of each as 1 hour, running until 3.30pm, whereas Digiguide/RT lists the length as 2.30 hours, running until 5pm.

I think this is an error in TiVo's listings. Can anyone confirm?

[OzSat]

Originally posted by snoopstah
Postcode = CV31
Service Provider = NTL Digital
Channel Name = BBCR4FM
Channel Number = 862
Programme Name = Saturday Play
Time/Date of airing = Sat 11th Jan, 2.30pm and Sat 18th Jan, 2.30pm

Just set up a season pass to record the broadcasts of the Philip Pullman series. TiVo lists the length of each as 1 hour, running until 3.30pm, whereas Digiguide/RT lists the length as 2.30 hours, running until 5pm.

I think this is an error in TiVo's listings. Can anyone confirm? 2.30pm-5pm on 11th is Part two of The Subtle Knife

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by woody
[b]
Sky Digital
Sky one/sky onemix (106 / 107)
Jeremiah and Odyssey5
All showings listed have the wrong OAD.

Both seem fixed now from my download last night. Haven't had time to check other programmes yet but this is a good sign!

[gregh]

- Postcode Ls17
- Service Provider Sky Digital
- Channel Name BBC One
- Channel Number 101
- Programme Name Skiing Weather
- Time/Date of airing - Fri 10 Jan, 1:10 am - 1:15 am 5mins
- Problem encountered - not displayed in the Tivo listings.

It may seem trivial but it's very important to any skiers out there!

[weeble]

Originally posted by weeble
with apologies to ozsat for originally posting this in the wrong place (doh - it's been a while since I've spotted one of these)....



I have the same problem here (LS12 NTL Digital ex-C&W - CNX 903). Basically the schedule's completely wrong from early morning until 4:30pm - every day. TiVo listings have pretty much all progs down as having a hour or a half hour slot (e.g. without listing the entire day: 7-8am Dragonball Z; 8-8:30am X-Men: Evolution etc) whereas programmes do not really start every half hour (Digiguide and the NTL epg show 7-7:50am Dragonball Z; 7:50-8:15am X-Men:Evolution...)

As of Sunday night's call this seem's to have been fixed now.

pity there's never a decent (and accurate) description for the Dragon Ball Z episodes though :D (only teasing!)

[OzSat]

Originally posted by Dazbear
How soon before new channels go live are their added? FTN and UKbright ideas still have blank listings.

Mind you their own websites dont show anything either.

Darren The schedules should be available by the end of this week - for those who have these channels in their channel lists.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by bobnick
Thurs 9th Jan, ITV1 London
7.30 pm - 'The Tube' - in reality, a documentary about the underground. Tivo however has very little info on the show, and the bits it does have have come from Channel 4's classic northen music show 'The Tube'. This should be fixed shortly - I notice that Digiguide also puts it down as a music programme.

This actual looks very interesting - but is only available to viewers with access to ITV1 LONDON

[woody]

OAD is now fixed for all episodes listed for Jeremiah/Odyssey5 and SG1 on sky1 (106)

Thanks Tribune, still need to correct ER on E4 sky 205 (Thur 9th @ 10pm.)

[pmk]

Okay not a lot of use to people who did not notice but:

BBC1NW
Aerial
6th Jan 02 @ 00:50 (i.e. very early Monday morning)

Program: The Sky At Night

Totally missing from schedule. The one on the 11 Jan 03 may be the repeat who knows as I do not know the episode title for the one that was missed.

HTH

[Adder]

Postcode: BS7
Provider: Sky Digital UK
Channel: 416 Motors TV
Programme: *ALL*

I've suspected it for a while, but TiVo has just been repeating the same schedule on Motors TV for a while now, while this was pretty close to the schedule during the racing season, it's nowhere near now.

Kind of annoying as Motors TV have listings for the next three weeks on their website, they will also be showing LIVE British Touring Cars this year, so the channel will get a bit more attention so real listings would be good. ;)

(Website www.motorstv.com)

[cwaring]

My FROSP for "Buffy" on BBC2NTH isn't catching "Wrecked" on the 16th Jan. There is nothing clashing (but it's not scheduled the repeat either!) and nothing in the Recording History to say why it won't be recorded. Ideas? Doesn't really matter as I can add it myself. It just seems a little odd!

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by pmk
Okay not a lot of use to people who did not notice but:

BBC1NW
Aerial
6th Jan 02 @ 00:50 (i.e. very early Monday morning)

Program: The Sky At Night

Totally missing from schedule. The one on the 11 Jan 03 may be the repeat who knows as I do not know the episode title for the one that was missed.

HTH

The episode title would be "January" if there was one (it's a monthly programme). It is normally on at that time and then repeated the following Saturday, so I'm very confident indeed that Saturday's programme is a repeat of this one!

HTH


The Radio Times website had it as a "late change" to the schedule.

[sjp]

SM3
BBC Choice
Freeview (but probably Sky Digital as well)

Taken

The Sat 11th 10:30pm showing is a repeat of BBC2 at 9pm. BBC episode data for the BBC Choice showing is, very nearly, the same as the earlier BBC2 showing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/choice/listings/index.shtml?day=saturday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings/index.shtml?service_id=4224&day=saturday

stuart

[mrtickle]

I thought they were going to "do a 24" and show episode 2 in that timeslot on BBC Choice, so that BBC Choice viewers see the episodes first.

Digiguide is wrong for this one. They have a *film* called Taken on BBC Choice in that timeslot with a completely different director and actors to the TV series :)

[sjp]

could be but they aren't that forthcoming on the bbc listings page if that is their plan. i went to DigiGuide first and found the film listing which had me checking elsewhere.

was about to congratulate them but then i remembered what i'm about to note below...

[sjp]

SM3
Sky Digital

Sky One

Stargate SG-1

the 10am old season rerun showings (which are also repeated at 6pm) are once again failing an FRO SP. the first dates i think i remember spotting are the 21st and 24th.

[bobnick]

Re: The Tube
Originally posted by ozsat
This should be fixed shortly - I notice that Digiguide also puts it down as a music programme.

This actual looks very interesting - but is only available to viewers with access to ITV1 LONDON


I reported this error to Tivo CS at the end of last week (and I'm still waiting for a supervisor to become available and call me straight back some 4 days later ;)), and yes, Tribune have modified the data.

However, everyone who saw the advertising in Carlton and set up a SP will now miss the programme entirely, as Tribune have given the show a new series ID.
There are currently two scheduled episodes in Tivo's memory; Tribune have given both of these the same basic description, the same OAD, and 'special' status. This means that it's impossible to set up a SP, and if it was, it wouldn't work anyway. Way to go Tribune! Their muppetry never fails to surprise me.

Digiguide have also marked the show down in the music category, but at least they have a detailed synopsis for the episode, and acknowledge that it's a new series.

My Tivo is going to record both showings of 'Wife Swap' on Channel 4; I'd report the error, but am afraid of more going wrong when they meddle! But you might want to check your To Do list if you're running low on disk space.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by sjp
SM3
Sky Digital

Sky One

Stargate SG-1

the 10am old season rerun showings (which are also repeated at 6pm) are once again failing an FRO SP. the first dates i think i remember spotting are the 21st and 24th.

Do you mean it's going to record them?

[sjp]

yes stuart, was doing a view upcoming episodes to check the state of this weds episode (having read something somewhere about its OAD being blank) and spotted these 2 episodes, way down the bottom, touble ticked.

i suppose "failing an FRO SP" was a little obtuse but as it's the umpteenth time this has happened (ok so it's more like the 3rd/4th or 4th/5th time) i figured tribune would figure it out.

promise to use "slipping through" an FRO SP next time :) as it will happen again (sound of gauntlet hitting the ground and tribune steadfastly ignoring it).

the other stuart

[Jim99]

Re: The Tube

This programme had to be assigned a new ID# as Bob rightly pointed it was not a music series. Apologies to anyone who has to reselect this programme to record, but there is no way around that. The old record could not be modified as it is a valid programme (albeit an old one.)

The record has also been modified into a series allowing a SP to be set up and individual descriptions to be added. This change should be with ITV1LDN users tomorrow.

Bobnick, you have my apologies but these changes were prompted by you. We do read these forums and appreciate your feedback (even if you think our "muppetry never fails to surprise.") I'm sorry it seems that so many errors go unchecked but there are often many variables (OAD issues for example) that are not just simple, routine fixes.

[bobnick]

Thanks for you post Jim, it's nice to get feedback from tribune here. Any chance you could get the person who deals with the UK to fix the problem with Wife Swap and CD:UK (where multiple copies get recorded) and the OADs with Friends?

[Jim99]

The OAD problem is currently being looked in to.

I will send the others on to the UK team.

[bobnick]

you've just made a forum-load of friends ;)

[sanderton]

Channel: History Channel
Programme: Longitude

This is a 2 parter, as the descriptions says, but TiVo has ALL showings marked as part 1 of 2. Digiguide reckons that next week's showins are in fact part 2. And IsEpisode appears to be set wrong, so a SP records all showings.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by Jim99
Re: The Tube

The record has also been modified into a series allowing a SP to be set up and individual descriptions to be added. This change should be with ITV1LDN users tomorrow.

The change has indeed occurred, and I've set a SP up. And Tribune have changed the description too - it's still generic, but mentions that the tube is the world's oldest subway system. Are you trying to enrage us brits, Jim? The tube is not merely an underpass, allowing pedestrians to cross under roads safely - oh no, it's a full blown underground railway. Anyone would think these descriptions were coming from the states. Can we agree to compromise by calling it a metro?
Better still, if the Carlton press office are closed by the time you guys wake up, you can get the episode details direct from Mosaic (the people who make the programme) at http://www.mosaicfilms.com/news.htm

[Jim99]

You just can't please some people.....:)

[johala_reewi]

postcode: SO45
channel: CBBC (freeview)
program: So little time

This program is shown twice a day mon-fri. It is actually the same episode repeated over and over again and the program description shows this but, tivo thinks each one is a new episode and a season pass records the whole lot. Tivo should record just one episode and skip the rest under the 28 day rule.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by Dazbear
How soon before new channels go live are their added? FTN and UKbright ideas still have blank listings.

Mind you their own websites dont show anything either.

Darren Freeview users now have the schedules available.

Telewest and Sky viewers will get these when the channels become available on 15th January.

NTL viewers will get these when the channels become available on 29th January.

[sanderton]

Jim99 - any chance of an explanation of the problems on CBeebies with the guide data (ie, it doesn't recognise episodes or the four-hour-block repeats)?

It was my first post on this forum a year ago, and 2,200 posts later it still doesn't work!

[Automan]

Postcode = ALL UK
Service Provider = Sky Digital
Channel Name = Granda Plus
Channel Number = 118
Programme Name = Beverly Hillbillies
Time/Date of airing = 10:00 08/01/02

Actually "Alis Smith & Jones" (Kid Curry)

Seems GPlus must have made some late schedule changes as even Digiguide says S&J should be on at 11:00

Of course, the Sky EPG is correct as normal.

Automan.

[Daf_Loz]

reg:UK
servicce:Sky
chnl name:Motors TV
chnl no:416
prog:ZONE F1

Various times

I have a season pass for Zone F1 and over three weeks (about 5/6 shows) only one of them has actually been Zone F1 the others have been different programmes.

Sky EPG showed correct programme.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Daf_Loz
reg:UK
servicce:Sky
chnl name:Motors TV
chnl no:416
prog:ZONE F1

Various times

I have a season pass for Zone F1 and over three weeks (about 5/6 shows) only one of them has actually been Zone F1 the others have been different programmes.

Sky EPG showed correct programme.

This is a symptom of what I reported above, that for several weeks the TiVo Motors TV listings have just been the same week repeated over and over again and bare NO resemblence to the actual Motors TV listings that are published.

Now we have two reports can we get real listings please? :(

[mrtickle]

(Note: I have pasted in some URLs to the MFS resources on tivoweb. Hopefully the IDs will be relevant enough to help track down the problems - with luck they should match Tribune IDs)


Season Pass errors
==================


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two (BBC2, BBC2NID), UK History (UKHSTY)
Channel Number: (102, 962), 582
Programme Name: Timewatch
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

The real Timewatch SP (http://tivo/series/594573) has 1 episode scheduled ("White Slave, Pirate Gold" BBC2 Fri 10th Jan 21:00)
and is ok.

Unfortunately a whole chunk of episodes have been orphaned into a 2nd SP (http://tivo/series/659081).
Orphaned episodes:

Episode Channel Date Time IsEp TmsId
"Stalin and the Betrayal of Leningrad" UKHSTY Sat 11th Jan 11:00 True EP0172640021
"Stalin and the Betrayal of Leningrad" UKHSTY Sat 11th Jan 17:00 True EP0172640021
"Stalin and the Betrayal of Leningrad" UKHSTY Sat 11th Jan 23:00 True EP0172640021

"The Lost Cities of the Maya" BBC2 Fri 17th Jan 21:00 True EP0172640032
"The Lost Cities of the Maya" BBC2NID Fri 17th Jan 21:00 True EP0172640032

"The Myth of Custer's Last Stand" UKHSTY Mon 20th Jan 07:00 True EP0172640022
"The Myth of Custer's Last Stand" UKHSTY Mon 20th Jan 13:00 True EP0172640022
"The Myth of Custer's Last Stand" UKHSTY Mon 20th Jan 19:00 True EP0172640022

"Lenin's Secret Files" UKHSTY Tue 21st Jan 07:00 True EP0172640029
"Lenin's Secret Files" UKHSTY Tue 21st Jan 13:00 True EP0172640029
"Lenin's Secret Files" UKHSTY Tue 21st Jan 19:00 True EP0172640029

This is the same series. Please fix and put them back in the original SP!

--------------


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK History (UKHSTY)
Channel Number: 582
Programme Name: Reputations
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

The real SP which I set up months ago is http://tivo/series/451383
these are correct:

Episode Channel Date Time IsEp TmsId
"Florence Nightingale" UKHSTY Fri 10th Jan 07:00 True EP4968450012
"Florence Nightingale" UKHSTY Fri 10th Jan 13:00 True EP4968450012
"Florence Nightingale" UKHSTY Fri 10th Jan 19:00 True EP4968450012

"The Secret Life of Richard Nixon" (2/2) UKHSTY Sun 12th Jan 07:00 True EP4968450002
"The Secret Life of Richard Nixon" (2/2) UKHSTY Sun 12th Jan 13:00 True EP4968450002
"The Secret Life of Richard Nixon" (2/2) UKHSTY Sun 12th Jan 19:00 True EP4968450002


Unfortunately again, the new imposter SP is still with us:
http://tivo/series/659265 .

orphan episode on UK History:

Episode Channel Date Time IsEp TmsId
"Simon Wiesenthal: The Man Who Hunted Nazis" UKHSTY Mon 27th Jan 07:00 True EP2699840005
"Simon Wiesenthal: The Man Who Hunted Nazis" UKHSTY Mon 27th Jan 13:00 True EP2699840005
"Simon Wiesenthal: The Man Who Hunted Nazis" UKHSTY Mon 27th Jan 19:00 True EP2699840005

This is the same series. Please fix and put back in the original SP.

--------------


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two (BBC2, BBC2NID, BBC2SCD, BBC2WD)
Programme Name: Horizon
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

The real SP (http://tivo/series/3292) has plenty of episodes scheduled:


Episode Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time IsEp TmsId
"The Mystery of Easter Island" Thu 9th Jan 2003 BBC2 Thu 9th Jan 21:00 True EP1954180148
"The Mystery of Easter Island" Thu 9th Jan 2003 BBC2SCD Thu 9th Jan 21:00 True EP1954180148
"The Mystery of Easter Island" Thu 9th Jan 2003 BBC2NID Thu 9th Jan 21:00 True EP1954180148

"Mega-Tsunami: Wave of Destruction" Fri 25th Oct 2002 BBC2 Sat 11th Jan 20:10 True EP1954180083
"Mega-Tsunami: Wave of Destruction" Fri 25th Oct 2002 BBC2SCD Sat 11th Jan 20:10 True EP1954180083
"Mega-Tsunami: Wave of Destruction" Fri 25th Oct 2002 BBC2WD Sat 11th Jan 20:10 True EP1954180083
"Mega-Tsunami: Wave of Destruction" Fri 25th Oct 2002 BBC2NID Sat 11th Jan 20:10 True EP1954180083

"Living Nightmare" Thu 16th Jan 2003 BBC2 Thu 16th Jan 21:00 True EP1954180149
"Living Nightmare" Thu 16th Jan 2003 BBC2SCD Thu 16th Jan 21:00 True EP1954180149
"Living Nightmare" Thu 16th Jan 2003 BBC2NID Thu 16th Jan 21:00 True EP1954180149


The episodes are repeated on BBC1 the following week. Unfortunately the BBC1 episodes seem to have been orphaned into a duplicate SP (http://tivo/series/666108)


Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time IsEp TmsId
Wed 15th Jan 2003 BBC1 Wed 15th Jan 01:55 False SH5452310000
Wed 15th Jan 2003 BBC1 Wed 15th Jan 02:45 False SH5452310000

This is the same series. Please fix and put back in the original SP.

Also, episode details are missing from the BBC1 episodes - should be:
"The Mystery of Easter Island", OAD Thu 9th Jan 2003, EP1954180148
followed by
"Extreme Dinosaurs", EP1954180147

Finally, Digiguide has changed times for those two. The first episode being at 02:35 and the second at 03:25.



Other errors
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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Five
Channel Number: 105
Programme Name: Columbo (series)
Time/Date of airing: Fri 17th Jan 14:25


The episode title is "Requiem for a FALLEN Star" not "Requiem for a FALLING Star". (The old hag who is the murderess in this episode is well past her sell-by date, she isn't still a star! :D )

Five's data is much better than GPLUS's was! The OADs are all perfect so I don't believe they could have been supplied by Five, surely you must be using the USA database? Please can you also pull out the Actors and Directors as they are all blank at the moment.


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One, Sky One Mix (SKYONE, SKY1MIX)
Channel Number: 106, 107
Programme Name: South Park
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Episode details are missing from:
Sat 25th Jan 22:00
Sat 25th Jan 23:30
Sun 26th Jan 22:00


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One (SKYONE)
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The X-Files
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Episode details are missing from:
Fri 24th Jan 11:00
Mon 27th Jan 11:00


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7)
Channel Number: 922
Programme Name: The League of Gentlemen
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

This is the original radio series so it is correct to be in the same SP as the TV series, thanks.

However please set them as Episodes, the pattern is:
Episode 5 - Tue 14th Jan 08:30 is re-run Tue 14th Jan 22:00
Episode 6 - Tue 21st Jan 08:30 is re-run Tue 21st Jan 22:00

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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC One (BBC1) - probably affects all variants of BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Top of the Pops
Time/Date of airing: Sun 12th Jan 02:25

This should be a re-run of Fri 10th Jan 19:30 (EP4075790081), not "Elton John Special".


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One, Sky One Mix (SKYONE, SKY1MIX)
Channel Number: 106, 107
Programme Name: Stargate SG-1
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Episode details are missing from:
SKY1MIX Thu 16th Jan 20:00 - should be re-run of EP2254210138, "Metamorphosis"
SKYONE Tue 21st Jan 10:00
SKYONE Fri 24th Jan 10:00
SKYONE Sat 25th Jan 20:30 - should be re-run of EP2254210139, "Disclosure", and DG has this at 18:00
SKY1MIX Sun 26th Jan 21:00
SKYONE Mon 27th Jan 10:00
SKY1MIX Mon 27th Jan 13:30
SKY1MIX Mon 27th Jan 19:00


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One, Sky One Mix (SKYONE, SKY1MIX)
Channel Number: 106, 107
Programme Name: Odyssey 5
Time/Date of airing: Wed 21:00 on SKYONE, re-run Thur 21:00 on SKY1MIX

This doesn't affect TiVo operation directly, but the OAD for the next two weeks is set to the Thursday re-run of each episode rather than the actual airing date. It may affect other series though if there is something going awry.


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One, Sky One Mix (SKYONE, SKY1MIX)
Channel Number: 106, 107
Programme Name: Malcolm in the Middle
Time/Date of airing: Sat 25th Jan 18:30 SKY1MIX

Surely this episode should be a re-run of EP3513740058, "Hal Coaches" from Sun 19th Jan on Sky One? "Cynthia's Back" is already being re-run this coming Saturday.

The normal pattern is new episode on Sky One in Sundays, re-run on Sky One Mix the following Saturday.


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice (BBCCHOI), BBC Seven (BBCR7), BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 160, 922, 854
Programme Name: Dead Ringers
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Similar to The League of Gentlemen - there is both a TV series and a radio series "Dead Ringers" - they are the same people, so they are correct to be in the same Season Pass.

However, the use of the same generic description causes a problem!
"John Culshaw, Jan Ravens, Mark Perry and Phil Cornwall bring their acclaimed BBC Radio 4 comedy series to television. No celebrity is safe from the merciless lampooning."
is appropriate for BBC Choice - but NOT for Radio 4 or 7!

Please set the radio series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
* Fridays at 08:30, re-run at 22:00

New First Run series - on BBC Radio 4 FM
* Fridays at 18:30, re-run Saturdays at 12:30


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7), BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 922, 854
Programme Name: Just a Minute
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Please set this series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
* DAILY at 12:00, re-run at 19:00

New First Run series - on BBC Radio 4 FM
* Mondays at 18:30, re-run the following Sunday at 12:00


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One (SKYONE)
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Episode details are missing from:
Sat 25th Jan 09:30, 18:00, 19:00, 19:30


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One, Sky One Mix (SKYONE, SKY1MIX)
Channel Number: 106, 107
Programme Name: Scrubs
Time/Date of airing: Wed 21:00 on SKYONE, re-run Thur 21:00 on SKY1MIX

Episode details are missing from:
SKY1MIX Sat 25th Jan 22:30 - probably should be re-run of EP4461600026 "My Nightingale"


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7), BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 922, 854
Programme Name: The News Quiz
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Please set this series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
* DAILY at 12:00, re-run at 19:00


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7), BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 922, 854
Programme Name: I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Please set this series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
* DAILY at 12:00, re-run at 19:00

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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7)
Channel Number: 922
Programme Name: Knowing Me, Knowing You
Time/Date of airing: various, see below


Please set this series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
* Mondays at 08:30, re-run at 22:00


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One, Sky One Mix (SKYONE, SKY1MIX)
Channel Number: 106, 107
Programme Name: Stargate Infinity
Time/Date of airing: Sat 11th Jan 09:00 on Sky One

This should be EP5279790003 "The Best World" (which is then re-run on Mix at 13:00, that listing is correct) and not EP5279790002 "Double Duty".


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: ITV2
Channel Number: 226
Programme Name: Late Show With David Letterman
Time/Date of airing: Daily at 00:55/00:50/01:10
Time/Date of re-run: Daily at 05:10 (ie 4 hours later)

Please set this as Episodes, details above.

[sstill]

- SW2
- NTL (coco)
- E4
- 144
- ER
- 9/3/03 2200 (?)
- I'm not 100% sure whether this is a problem with guide data or Tivo software logic but it's taken me at least 3 attempts to get a Season Pass (first run only) for this show to work.

Having set up a SP i checked my ToDo list at least 24hrs later and ER was still sitting at the bottom flagged "there are no forthcoming episodes of this programme" yet delving into the item showed the 6 episodes (including repeats) currently in the guide data. I deleted the SP and tried again but it didnt correct it. I then manually set the showings i wanted but then when i checked it last night it was appearing in ToDo both as items to be recorded AND "no forthcoming shows".

Deleting SP once more and recreating appears to have sorted it out.

[sjp]

the ER problem is with the OAD being set more than 28 days ago (early december iirc). as there is only 1 season of ER showing on E4 at the moment a repeats and first run SP is the safer bet. the only time an FRO SP is worth having is when there are multiple seasons showing e.g. stargate sg-1 on sky 1 and friends on E4/C4.

that said, OADs should be accurate - they know it's a new season and they know the date the first showing of each episode is on.

[johala_reewi]

Originally posted by johala_reewi
postcode: SO45
channel: CBBC (freeview)
program: So little time

This program is shown twice a day mon-fri. It is actually the same episode repeated over and over again and the program description shows this but, tivo thinks each one is a new episode and a season pass records the whole lot. Tivo should record just one episode and skip the rest under the 28 day rule.

After interrogation ;) my daughter now tells me...

The programme is being shown in 'chunks' so the description not changing from day to day would seem to be correct. Each day, the next chunk is shown. Each chunk is repeated twice each day. A tivo SP should pick up one showing each day to catch the whole programme. So it's not as bad as previously thought. Each chunk is only 30 mins so getting both every day isn't too bad (they get deleted fairly quickly).

[Brownedger]

- ST6 8SE
- Sky Digital
- Sky Sports 2
- 402
- Football: Worthington cup semi finals
- 7pm on 21st Jan/22nd Jan
- These progs are not being inserted in the todo list with season pass because of the 28 day rule.

[khadland]

postcode GU4
freeview
channel 4

World Rally is back - progs on Sat 18th, Thu 23 are listed as 'World Rally' but Sat 25th (or might be Fri 24th, forgot to make a proper note :rolleyes: - sorry ) is listed as 'World Rally Championship'. Captured by a World Rally title WL, but will need 2 SPs.

[OzSat]

It has just been reported in another thread (SP & last nights ER (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95048)) that the OADs for 'Friends' are those for RTE1 - and not E4.

RTE1 is officially available in the UK and is listed by the ITC for viewing figures etc. - but can only be received in Northern Ireland (cable and aerial).

So the issue is now - how can this be resolved so it all works for the whole of the UK - not just NI and not the rest of the UK and not NI?

Checking the schedules for RTE - does confirm the OADs are those for RTE1.

Please continue any discussion about this OAD problem in etiher

SP & last nights ER (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95048) or

Friends - is it safe yet? (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94103)

But NOT is this errors thread

[Bones]

Postcode : SS5
Service Provider : Sky Digital
Channel : BBC Choice (160)
Date : Sat 04/01
Programme : "Alistair McGowan's Big Impression"

TiVo thought it started @ 21:30, actually started (and reported correctly in Sky EPG) @ 21:40.

But this cloud had a silver lining... Instead of missing the last 10 minutes, TiVo thought it was a 45 minute programme - it was actually only 30 minutes long. All's well that ends well!

[mikeglondon]

Pet Rescue: Channel 4 @ 3.15 pm daily

The description for Pet Rescue is '...The RSPCA rescues animals...'. The RSPCA are only one rescue organisation of many featured in this programme. The description should either state 'Animal rescue organisations...' or should name the rescue organisations featured on that specific day: e.g. Blue Cross, Battersea Dogs Home, NCDL, RSPCA, etc etc etc.

p.s. yes I do work for an animal rescue that has been featured in the programme but never makes the Tivo credits :)

[occitan]

This program has no descriptive text on the TiVo listings, and has the classification "Home and Garden". Actually it is a childrens program, nothing to do with gardens at all...

From Radio Times (part of GMTV description)

ITV (London) Saturdays
07.05 Diggin'it. Magazine with animations, games and guests, including Stanley, House of Mouse, Recess, Kim Possible and That's So Raven.

or on ITV.com

07:05 Diggin` It
Magazine series for children presented by Liam, Abbie and IT. Pop Idol finalist Zoe Birkett is in the studio, plus there`s the further adventures of Kim Possible and That`s So Raven, as well as Stanley, House of Mouse and Recess.

The above details were for Saturday 11th of Jan, the program is broadcast every week.

[mbainbridge]

Paramount on Sky Digital been broadcasting Drop The Dead Donkey (Mon-Thu, 11:30pm) since the new year, yet my Tivo is listing it as an hour of Frank Skinner from 11-12 :-( The last DTDD I got was back in December.

The next "scheduled" showing is being pushed further and further back (now it's saying Wednesday 15th), but no doubt that will get overwritten again...

[gregh]

- Postcode LS17
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - Extreme
- Channel Number - 422
- Programme Name - Ex-Files
- Time/Date of airing Mon 13/1 1pm-2pm and multiple other times/programmes.
- Problem encountered - single word description of 'reality'. Extreme provide detailed listings in advance for all programs including this, as can be seen in Digiguide.

[blindlemon]

Postcode - sn16
Provider - SkyD
Channel - 106 (skyone)
Programme - Veronica's Closet
Times Shown on TiVo EPG - 9am and 9.30am
Dates - multiple (eg. yesterday, today, tomorrow)
Problem - Actual Program is NOT Veronica's Closet but some daytime talk show

[gregh]

- Postcode LS17
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - UK Gold + 1
- Channel Number - 110
- Programme Name - spooks
- Time/Date of airing : Sun 11pm
- Problem encountered - Tivo has recorded the same episode 3 times now, all within 28 days of the 1st one.

[mrtickle]

The guide data for Spooks wasn't right for the first episode, but on my tivo the others (from this Wed onwards I think) look to have been corrected and the 28-day rule should work from now on. Check your "View upcoming" on your Spooks SP and see if they are all scheduled to be recorded.

[spage1970]

Postcode: DY2
Service Provide: Sky
Channel Name: SkyOneMix
Channel Number: 107
Programme Name: Victorias Closet
Time/Date of Airing: 14/Jan/03 13:00
Problem:

This show isnt being broadcast. SkyOneMix are showing Sally Jessy Raphael, this is a re-occuring error.

[bobnick]

Just set up some recordings and noticed a few errors (yet again!) Might be worth checking your SPs

Sex and the City: 25th Jan, Ch4 - thinks the programme has been shown before, but I think it's a new episode to Ch 4.
Thomas the Tank Engine, ITV1 - all new episodes, but Tivo have mislabeled a couple, so Tivo thinks they're repeats
Without Prejudice, Ch4 - No data
Bremner Bird & Fortune, Ch4 - tivo thinks the repeated showing is also a new episode.

but cd:uk is working this week :) But no proper description on The Tube :(

[maubp]

Originally posted by khadland
postcode GU4
freeview
channel 4

World Rally is back - progs on Sat 18th, Thu 23 are listed as 'World Rally' but Sat 25th (or might be Fri 24th, forgot to make a proper note :rolleyes: - sorry ) is listed as 'World Rally Championship'. Captured by a World Rally title WL, but will need 2 SPs.
Confirmed - my world rally SP from last year found:

Saturday 18 Jan 2003 - "World Rally", "Monte Carlo Shakedown" (A preview program)
Thursday 23 Jan 2003 - "World Rally", "Monte Carlo - Shakedown" (Actual coverage)

But did not pickup:

Friday 24th Jan 2003 - "World Rally Championship", "2003 Monte Carlo" (Actual coverage)

My Post Code: RG10
Channel: Analogue Terrestrial C4

I can't remember what the "Offical" series name is, "World Rally" or "World Rally Championship".

[Jim99]

Apologies for the Rally mixup. We won't consolidate titles for these showings, as many have already set up recordings. Moving forward we will use last year's title "World Rally Championships" to avoid the confusion of having more than one programme title.

Hope this helps,
Jim

[digital_S]

Originally posted by Jim99
we will use last year's title "World Rally Championships" to avoid the confusion of having more than one programme title. My Rally SP is set as "World Rally", so does that mean I need to delete it, and add "World Rally Championships" SP, or have both?

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by digital_S
My Rally SP is set as "World Rally", so does that mean I need to delete it, and add "World Rally Championships" SP, or have both?

I think it means that after 24th Jan there won't be any more episodes of the "World Rally" Season Pass. You can keep it if you like but you might as well delete it.

Jim, the "World Rally Championship" itself has orphans :(

first one:
http://tivo/series/768848
"2003 Monte Carlo"
C4
Fri 24th Jan
19:55
EP4992060012

second one:
http://tivo/series/771621
Lots of broadcasts on EURGB, starting with:
Thu 23rd Jan
23:45
EP1889130021

HTH

[EdTV]

'Andromeda' is currently scheduled by TiVo as 'Poltergeist: The Legacy' all this week (1:00am - 1:50am each week day) on Sky One

[Ian_m]

Postcode: So50
Service Provide: BBC 1 terrestrial
Channel Name: BBC
Channel Number: ?
Programme Name: BBC News at 10.
Time/Date of Airing: 10 o'clock
Problem:

I had a season pass to record the BBC 1 terrestrial news at 10, if nothing else is recording. Recently this season pass has stopped recording or has very few episodes in upcoming episodes.

Selecting Jan 16th 10 o'clock news (not being recorded as not in original season pass) reveals this one is part of another season pass called 10 o'clock news, which also includes some news at 4am and 5am.

Something has gone wrong with programme/series ID's.

[sjp]

Sky Digital

Sky One

Stargate SG-1

again with the daytime reruns being scheduled by way of an FRO SP - this time Feb 3rd is in there.

[bobnick]

Smallpox 2002 on BBC2 has an OAD of 2003! (It's a repeat...)

[Jim99]

Strange...

Smallpox 2002 has an OAD of 5 Feb 2002 in our DB...I'll have to look further into this one.

[Bones]

Postcode : SS5
Service Provider : Sky Digital

VH1UK (443)
Sun 12 Jan 03 @ 20:30
TiVo thought "Behind The Music" was showing. Actually aired (and shown correctly in Sky EPG) was "VH1's 100 Greatest Floorfillers"

MTVUK (440)
Mon 13 Jan 03 @ 00:00
TiVo thought "Jackass" was showing. Actually aired (and shown correctly in Sky EPG) was "How To Live Like A Rock Star"

[cjanderson]

Postcode SW19
Sky digital

BBC1 101
Wed 15/1/03 11.30am

Tivo thinks trading up is on at 11.30 and big strong boys on at 11. However Sky, the whats on tv guide and the actual broadcast show it to be the other way round

Oh the embarrasment of admitiing publicy i like to record trading up!!

Catherine

[pmk]

Originally posted by cjanderson
Postcode SW19
Sky digital

BBC1 101
Wed 15/1/03 11.30am

Tivo thinks trading up is on at 11.30 and big strong boys on at 11. However Sky, the whats on tv guide and the actual broadcast show it to be the other way round

Oh the embarrasment of admitiing publicy i like to record trading up!!

Catherine

This was a last minute change by the BBC, yesterdays, todays and Fridays will be the other way round. They announced this at the beginning of yesterdays episode. They gave no reason for the change. HTH.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by Jim99
Strange...

Smallpox 2002 has an OAD of 5 Feb 2002 in our DB...I'll have to look further into this one.

To be honest, I was more concerned with some of the other errors on here; this was just an error that made me smile, as Tivo says (2003) Smallpox 2002. For the record, I'm watching via DTT and my postcode is WC1 (and the show's OAD is 18/1/03).

[Adder]

YAY!

Motors TV now has real listings! Thank you very much!

Can we have proper OADs and isEpisode=True for the WWE shows on Sky Sports now, as noted earlier, so my TiVo doesn't keep on recording the same episode of WWE Classics three times every Thursday?

;)

[LJ]

Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: 854 BBC Radio 4
Programme: Money Box
Problem: All OADs are 11th May 2002. TiVo wants to record every episode.

The show's schedule is normally a new show on Saturday, repeated on Sunday and a 'live' version of the show on Monday (which is not repeated).

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by cjanderson
Postcode SW19
Sky digital

BBC1 101
Wed 15/1/03 11.30am

Tivo thinks trading up is on at 11.30 and big strong boys on at 11. However Sky, the whats on tv guide and the actual broadcast show it to be the other way round


Careful - it is "trading up in the sun" which is a different Season Pass to "trading up". I have both, of course :)


Oh the embarrasment of admitiing publicy i like to record trading up!!

Catherine

It could be worse, you could have a SP for "big strong boys in the sun"!

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by mrtickle
"big strong boys in the sun"!

And this is daytime TV, you say? Does it still have Jake and Gavin? :D

[spage1970]

Postcode: DY2
Service Provide: Sky
Channel Name: BBC 7
Channel Number: 922
Programme Name: All
Time/Date of Airing: All
Problem:

Programmes are not being identified properly.

Many shows are repeated each day. There is no recognition by TiVo of this fact and it will record both shows.

Also no episode info is provided so that TiVo can differenciate between episodes so it will record repeats such as Dr Who on different days.

This is a MAJOR pain for me and anyone else using BBC 7.

PLEASE if anyone out there looks at these, please, please change this!

[masot]

Postcode: GU7
Service Provide: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Five
Channel Number: 105
Programme Name: "Now is the time: Night of Combat - Kickboxing"
Broadcast: Tuesday nights, time varies but usually 0100-ish

Problem: TiVo doesn't realise this is a series

[Brownedger]

ST6
Sky Digital
E! Television
250

There are several programmes from the Golden Globe Awards scheduled for this sunday 19th January 2003, these are not listed on the Tivo listing for this channel.

[mrtickle]

kitschcamp - no idea who Jake or Gavin are :)

---------

(Note: I have pasted in some URLs to the MFS resources on tivoweb. Hopefully the IDs will be relevant enough to help track down the problems - with luck they should match Tribune IDs)


Season Pass errors
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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two (BBC2, BBC2NID), UK History (UKHSTY)
Channel Number: (102, 962), 582
Programme Name: Timewatch
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

The real Timewatch SP (http://tivo/series/594573) has several episodes scheduled and is ok:

"The Myth of Custer's Last Stand" UKHSTY Mon 20th Jan 07:00 EP3164650042
"The Myth of Custer's Last Stand" UKHSTY Mon 20th Jan 13:00 EP3164650042
"The Myth of Custer's Last Stand" UKHSTY Mon 20th Jan 19:00 EP3164650042
"Lenin's Secret Files" UKHSTY Tue 21st Jan 07:00 EP3164650043
"Lenin's Secret Files" UKHSTY Tue 21st Jan 13:00 EP3164650043
"Lenin's Secret Files" UKHSTY Tue 21st Jan 19:00 EP3164650043
"Uncle Ho and Uncle Sam" UKHSTY Tue 28th Jan 10:00 EP3164650030
"The Spies Who Fooled Hitler -..." UKHSTY Tue 28th Jan 12:00 EP3164650033
"Uncle Ho and Uncle Sam" UKHSTY Tue 28th Jan 16:00 EP3164650030
"The Spies Who Fooled Hitler -..." UKHSTY Tue 28th Jan 18:00 EP3164650033
"Uncle Ho and Uncle Sam" UKHSTY Tue 28th Jan 22:00 EP3164650030
"The Spies Who Fooled Hitler -..." UKHSTY Wed 29th Jan 00:00 EP3164650033



Unfortunately a whole chunk of episodes have been orphaned into a 2nd SP
(http://tivo/series/659081). Thankyou for fixing "The Myth of Custer's
Last Stand" and "Lenin's Secret Files" but more wrong episodes have appeared
since last week. Please consolidate into the original SP, and kill this SP!

Orphaned episodes which need to be put back into the original SP:

Episode Channel Date Time TmsId
"The Lost Cities of the Maya" BBC2 Fri 17th Jan 21:00 EP0172640032 - still not fixed, too late really :)
"The Lost Cities of the Maya" BBC2NID Fri 17th Jan 21:00 EP0172640032

"Rocket and Its Rivals" BBC2 Fri 24th Jan 21:00 EP0172640033 - new error added
"Rocket and Its Rivals" BBC2SCD Fri 24th Jan 21:00 EP0172640033
"Rocket and Its Rivals" BBC2NID Fri 24th Jan 21:00 EP0172640033



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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK History (UKHSTY)
Channel Number: 582
Programme Name: Reputations
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Thankyou for fixing the error from last time. Unfortunately it's happened again! :(


The real SP which I set up months ago is http://tivo/series/451383
these are correct:
Episode Channel Date Time TmsId
"Simon Wiesenthal: The Man Who Hunted Nazis" UKHSTY Mon 27th Jan 07:00 EP4968450013 - fixed from last time
"Simon Wiesenthal: The Man Who Hunted Nazis" UKHSTY Mon 27th Jan 13:00 EP4968450013
"Simon Wiesenthal: The Man Who Hunted Nazis" UKHSTY Mon 27th Jan 19:00 EP4968450013

"Robert Kennedy" UKHSTY Tue 4th Feb 11:00 EP4968450008
"Robert Kennedy" UKHSTY Tue 4th Feb 17:00 EP4968450008
"Robert Kennedy" UKHSTY Tue 4th Feb 23:00 EP4968450008


Unfortunately again, the new imposter SP is still with us:
http://tivo/series/659265 .

orphan episode on UK History:

"Kitchener: The Empire's Flawed Hero" UKHSTY Mon 3rd Feb 07:00 EP2699840015
"Kitchener: The Empire's Flawed Hero" UKHSTY Mon 3rd Feb 13:00 EP2699840015
"Kitchener: The Empire's Flawed Hero" UKHSTY Mon 3rd Feb 19:00 EP2699840015


This is the same series. Please consolidate back in the original SP.

This keeps on happening, is there some way you can mark this seriesID as invalid so that it doesn't happen again?


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC One
Programme Name: Horizon
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Thanks for consolidating the last lot of episodes!

The only problem left with this series is the flags on the BBC1 re-run episode(s).


Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time IsEp TmsId
Wed 15th Jan 2003 BBC1 Wed 22nd Jan 03:00 False SH5452310000


This shoulld be "Living Nightmare", EP1954180149, IsEpisode True.

The synopsis is correct though, for that episode.

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SKY ONE/SKY ONE MIX errors
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There did seem to be a lot of missing data with many series on these two channels. Episodes are added with no data, then fixed later in time for the broadcast, then more empty data added for later showings etc.

Looks like this is all fixed now though (touch wood)! :)

These are all fixed:
South Park
X-Files
Stargate SG-1
Odyssey 5
Stargate Infinity
Malcolm in the Middle
The Simpsons
Scrubs

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Other errors
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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7)
Channel Number: 922
Programme Name: The League of Gentlemen
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

This is the original radio series so it is correct to be in the same SP as the TV series, thanks.

However please set them as Episodes, the pattern is:
Episode 6 - Tue 21st Jan 08:30 is re-run Tue 21st Jan 22:00

I don't know why they are scheduled for Tue 28th Jan and Tue 4th Feb, because there are only 6 episodes.

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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice (BBCCHOI), BBC Seven (BBCR7), BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 160, 922, 854
Programme Name: Dead Ringers
Time/Date of airing: various, see below


Please set the radio series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
* Fridays at 08:30, re-run at 22:00

New First Run series - on BBC Radio 4 FM
* Fridays at 18:30, re-run Saturdays at 12:30


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7), BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 922, 854
Programme Name: Just a Minute
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Please set this series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
* Saturdays from 25th Jan at 12:00, re-run at 19:00

New First Run series - on BBC Radio 4 FM
* Mondays at 18:30, re-run the following Sunday at 12:00


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7), BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 922, 854
Programme Name: The News Quiz
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Please set this series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
* DAILY at 12:00, re-run at 19:00


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7), BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 922, 854
Programme Name: I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Please set this series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
* DAILY at 12:00, re-run at 19:00


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Seven (BBCR7)
Channel Number: 922
Programme Name: Knowing Me, Knowing You
Time/Date of airing: various, see below


Please set this series as Episodes, the pattern is:
Repeat Series - on BBC Radio 7
Episode 6 - Mon 20th Jan 08:30 is re-run Mon 20th Jan 22:00

I don't know why there are more scheduled; there are only 6 episodes.


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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: ITV2
Channel Number: 226
Programme Name: Late Show With David Letterman
Time/Date of airing: Daily at 00:55/00:50/01:10
Time/Date of re-run: Daily at 05:10 (ie 4 hours later)

Please set this as Episodes, details above.

[sjp]

Postcode: SM3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Hallmark
Channel Number: 190
Programme Name: Both Providence and The Guardian
Broadcast times: 11am & 8pm and 9pm & 1am (the following day) respectively

From Feb 3rd both showings of these programmes are being picked up. Up to that date all has been well for both of these (and all the other Hallmark "twice daily" shows we record). I think this might actually be the first data problem we've spotted for this channel.

Agree with the above Letterman request and, if i may, can i re-request guest details. Digiguide gets it from somewhere and you yourselves provide guest info for Conan O'Brien on CNBC.

[scoopuk]

Don't know if anyone else has noticed this yet, but Channel 4 listings seem to be badly out in the next few days.

Channel 4
Sky England
Sunday 19/1
Time: 2000

Channel 4's website, digiguide and numerous other sources have Bremner Bird & Fortune at 2000, TiVo lists it on at 2100. Several other associated errors too, like timings for the fab new drama Buried.

TiVo admits the UK is a loss making service, so I guess there's only going to be a limited amount of resource devoted to our listings. In which case

I'd prefer that effort going into accurate timings for the main channels (like Channel 4) - than bothering about intricate details about repeats & first runs or detailed episode listings for minority digital radio stations like BBC7, whose audience figures are officially zero (ie too low to be measured)

[nickchristie]

Postcode: W13
Provider: NTL Digital ex-CWC
Channel Name: Discovery Wings
Channel Number: 805
Programme Name: Various

Over the past couple of weeks I've experienced a number of errors whereby the EPG says one programme, but when recorded, it's actually another. Most recently, FlightDeck on 17th Jan. Sorry I don't have more specific cases, but the problem seems to be quite general on this channel.

[Richardr]

Originally posted by scoopuk
I'd prefer that effort going into accurate timings for the main channels (like Channel 4) - than bothering about intricate details about repeats & first runs or detailed episode listings for minority digital radio stations like BBC7, whose audience figures are officially zero (ie too low to be measured) Hold on - what do you know about the audience figures for BBC7? The Rajar figures come out quarterly, and BBC7 hasn't been going long enough to feature in the ratings.

Meanwhile, there is no evidence that getting decent listings for 'main channels' and 'minority channels' involves any sort of trade-off.

[scoopuk]

Originally posted by Richardr
Hold on - what do you know about the audience figures for BBC7? The Rajar figures come out quarterly, and BBC7 hasn't been going long enough to feature in the ratings.

Meanwhile, there is no evidence that getting decent listings for 'main channels' and 'minority channels' involves any sort of trade-off.

RAJAR have not yet issued any public figures for any digital only station, obviously they will eventually, but at the moment, BBC7's official ratings don't exist.

That's unlike Channel 4 of course - which is seen by millions every night.

We have been told several times on here by TiVo and Tribune that there is only a finite amount of resource to be devoted to our listings service.

If you want detailed episode listings of BBC7 - fine. I probably do as well.
But Tribune & TiVo need to sort out the "big" mainstream TV channels first.

[OzSat]

And remember that the UK is one up on the US here - there are no radio listings on TiVo in the US.

[Jim99]

Can I have listings for Hot 100.3 Now?!?....

[OzSat]

Hey Jim - you can have your Hot 100.3 listings - when my 'Mysteries & Scandals' is working! ;)

[Brownedger]

Out of interest, where does Tribune get the latest listings data from?

[lairdc]

GL11
Sky Digital
Paramount Comedy Channel
127 PARCOM
Daria & Grosse Pointe
Saturday & Sunday 1pm screenings 19th January onwards

Programme data should show Daria at 1pm instead it shows Grosse Pointe

[dlorde]

Nearly missed C4s 'Bremner, Bird, and Fortune' at 20:00 this evening. TiVo had decided it was at 21:00. Considering this is a well-publicised, major new series of this popular programme, I'd really expect Tribune to get their schedules right...

[DazBarber]

RM17
Sky Digital
BBC ONE (101)/ BBC Choice (160)
EastEnders

Starting next week (27th) and for the rest of the week (28th/30th/31st) TiVo is attempting to record both the BBC ONE showing and the BBC Choice repeat (at 10pm later the same evening) on a double season pass.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by dlorde
Nearly missed C4s 'Bremner, Bird, and Fortune' at 20:00 this evening. TiVo had decided it was at 21:00. Considering this is a well-publicised, major new series of this popular programme, I'd really expect Tribune to get their schedules right...

You'll learn. :D

The new episode of Sex & the City on wednesday won't tape by default; tivo thinks it's been shown recently.

[nickchristie]

Postcode: W13
Provider: NTL Digital ex-CWC
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 144

I've got no listings for E4 except the default 2 hour blocks between this Thursday 23/1 and next Tuesday 28/1 inclusive. After 28/1 the listings resume for 2 days. Other channels seem to be fine, daily call last night was successful.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by nickchristie
I've got no listings for E4 except the default 2 hour blocks between this Thursday 23/1 and next Tuesday 28/1 inclusive. After 28/1 the listings resume for 2 days. Other channels seem to be fine, daily call last night was successful.

Have a read of this (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=934314#post934314) thread. You may have the same problem. Please note I said "MAY have the same problem! I am not responsible if you stuff up your Tivo :D

If you do have the same problem, don't worry. It can be cured :)

[Brownedger]

Postcode: ST6 8SE
Source: Sky Digital
Channel: E! Entertainment
Number: 250
Problem: various

Could someone look at the listings for this channel there are numerous errors and 'to be announced'.
This last weekend there were at least 5 programmes from the Golden Globes None were in the Tivo listing depite my previously reporting them.

[geekspeak]

Not sure if this is a known problem? .. but the listings for Reality TV seem totally wrong.

Source: NTL Digital (ex c&w)
Channel Number: 909

Examples:

22nd January

NTL EPG (lists and shows)

00:35 The Bravest
01:05 Where Disasters Happen
02:00 The World's Greatest Child Rescues
02:55 Little Micacles
03:20 Little Micacles
03:50 Mounties

Tivo says (incorrectly)

00:00 Sky Action Videos
00:50 Sky Action Videos
01:45 Where Disasters Happen
02:40 In the Line of Duty
03:30 Mounties
03:55 Mounties

This does not seem an isolated case, as I have recorded wrong problems consistenty over the past weeks and only just did this comparison.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by geekspeak
Not sure if this is a known problem? .. but the listings for Reality TV seem totally wrong.

Source: NTL Digital (ex c&w)
Channel Number: 909

This does not seem an isolated case, as I have recorded wrong problems consistenty over the past weeks and only just did this comparison. Digiguide has yet another version of the schedules, so do you know which one is correct?

[sjp]

Postcode: SM3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Living and Living +1
Channel Number: 112 & 113

The new series of Charmed starting on Feb 1st opens with the 2 part "A Witches Tail" (2 part confirmed by tvtome and digiguide). The 2nd part on Feb 8th is not being picked up by my (working FRO) SP due to the 28 day rule, it thinks it's a repeat showing of part 1. Charmed is being broadcast several times a week but the new episodes appear first (or so it seems so far) on Saturday.

Any chance of having the *episide* description first then follwoed by the *programme* description? The "brand new and exclusive fifth series blah blah blah sexy sisters blah blah blah power of witchcraft" programme description takes up most of the total description area knocking the episode info off the bottom.

tia

[cwaring]

Originally posted by sjp
Any chance of having the *episide* description first then follwoed by the *programme* description? The "brand new and exclusive fifth series blah blah blah sexy sisters blah blah blah power of witchcraft" programme description takes up most of the total description area knocking the episode info off the bottom.

None at all :) I've already tole them about this a few times!

[sjp]

Postcode: SM3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Sci FI
Channel Number: 130?

This is more of a sanity check than an actual error but it has the potential to be one.

It looks like we are getting series 2 of Witchcraft early next month but the 1:45 2 part pilot film (S1 eps 1 & 2 on Sci Fi) data seems to getting in the way. Digiguide is also showing this

Series 1 was first broadcast on a Monday at 8pm with a repeat showing the following Sunday at 7pm. A Witchcraft wishlist is currently picking the 2 part pilot data as being broadcast on Monday Feb 3rd at 8pm, the repeat showing on Sunday Feb 9th is actually for S2 Ep2.

Mind you, we did get S2 Ep1 at the end of S1 so who knows what Sci Fi are actually up to.

FWIW Sky Movies showed the 2 part pilot film version a while back, would this not preclude Sci Fi from showing the same version - broadcast rights-wise?

[sjp]

Originally posted by cwaring
None at all :) I've already tole them about this a few times!

i remember, i just figured that asking again might reap some results what with a new season starting and all.

just to prove i remember really strange things... you must be bouncing up and down at the moment what with emily proctor and charmed coming soon.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by cwaring
None at all :) I've already tole them about this a few times!

I bet you haven't told them (Living)! I bet you only told Tribune, who have to supply us the text they are given by the broadcasters. It's one thing to make sure that the episodes are correct for the timeslot, and start/end times, but I doubt that they are allowed to hand-edit the text used in descriptions. If they are allowed, then it is masses of work which should be done by the broadcaster and I would prefer that Tribunes efforts were spent on gettings the episodes IDs etc correct first...

[mccg]

Post Code PO16
Source: NTL digital
Channel: Channel 4
Problem: World Rally on 24-01-2003 incorrect start time.

My Tivo is reporting this as being 1955-2000
All other guides report 1930-2000, which is correct.

Along with the Bremner Bird & Fortune errors last week, makes me wonder if any channel 4 data is trustworthy.

Thankfully I always double check with DigiGuide...

Cheers,
Mike

[cwaring]

Originally posted by sjp
just to prove i remember really strange things... you must be bouncing up and down at the moment what with emily proctor and charmed coming soon.

You'd better believe it :D However, I will not forgive five for NOT repeating it later in the week, as they did with the original CSI :mad: I've had to juggle my SPs so I get "CSI:M" on Sat, "Charmed" on Monday and "Enterprise" on Sunday :)

Anyway, I'd rather it was Ms Procter doing the bouncing ... never mind :p ;)

[sjg]

Originally posted by mccg
Post Code PO16
Source: NTL digital
Channel: Channel 4
Problem: World Rally on 24-01-2003 incorrect start time.

My Tivo is reporting this as being 1955-2000
All other guides report 1930-2000, which is correct.

Along with the Bremner Bird & Fortune errors last week, makes me wonder if any channel 4 data is trustworthy.

Thankfully I always double check with DigiGuide...

Cheers,
Mike

I noticed this too (Sky Digital) - they also seem to have changed the programme name (with/without Championship in there) so the season pass for last year's programmes won't pick it up.

[cwaring]

For a couple of weeks now, my Tivo has been waiting to record "Mindwarp" which was supposed to be on right now on Sci-fi. I've just been in to check on it and, naturally, it's recording what it thinks is "Mindwarp". Indeed, it said "Mindwarp" in the TDL and in NP it lists "Mindwarp".

However, the film that is actually on, and is listed as such in the EPG is called "No Escape".

Huh? :confused:

[groovyclam]

However, the film that is actually on, and is listed as such in the EPG is called "No Escape".

Huh?

Errrm... you are experiencing what is commonly referred to as A LISTINGS ERROR!

DigiGuide had it correctly listed as "No Escape"

Can we have some guidance from the moderators as to whether this thread should stick to a more rigid...

Post Code: blah
Source: blah
Channel: blah
Problem: blah blah blah

format, since it seems to have gotten rather chatty and less formal over the past few months ( which makes it harder for any Tribune rep to wade through the chat and actually find the problems ). Also posts of "yesterday this was wrong" aren't much to Tribune ( you can't fix an error after it has been broadcast - unless it is a weekly repeating problem )

If chat is encouraged then go ahead...

[sjp]

Originally posted by sjp
Postcode: SM3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Sci FI
Channel Number: 130?

This is more of a sanity check than an actual error but it has the potential to be one.

Witchcraft



is it selfserving to quote oneself? I decided to add this rather than edit (or delete) my previous post just in case Jim was already looking into this. Hopefully you haven't spent any time on this yet Jim, apologies if you have - i'm sure you can see the confusion though.

OK after a bit more research which i couldn't do yesterday it seems that Sci Fi are showing Witchcraft in a less than sensible order. tivo data, to date, seems to be accurate.

uk.SciFi.com have the following on their own website...

all Feb dates, Sunday @ 7pm, Monday @ 8pm

Sun 2nd - S2 E1 Emergence
Mon 3rd - S1 2 part pilot movie thingy
Sun 9th - S2 E2 Destiny
Mon 10th - S2 E3 Agape
Sun 16th - S2 E3 repeat of Agape

and so on with first showing on Monday, repeated on Sunday.

[johala_reewi]

Post Code SO45
Source: Freeview
Channel: Ftn
Problem: Programme listings wrong.

Ftn was showing Future Fighting Machines. Tivo guide said it was Sin Cities and that Future Fighting Machines was on an hour earlier.

[bobnick]

This thread became more chatty when Jim said it wasn't used as a proper way of reporting errors to Tribune; they had to be called through to CS.

I got frustrated at the lack of correction of errors posted here, and so just give head-up warnings to fellow tivo users, and call in the precise details to CS.

Jim has started posting here in the last couple of weeks, so maybe Tribune would like to have errors properly and exclusively reported in here? Stops Tivo from spotting how many errors there really are in the data, which is pretty obvious to calculate when Tribune tell you to ring up Tivo CS and get them to fax it over the pond!

[Jim99]

This forum gets checked at least three times a day so errors posted here usually do get looked at in short order.

However, reporting errors to TiVo CS should always be the "official" route. I don't think they'd be pleased if we asked users to cut them out of the picture.

Thanks,
Jim

P.S. I had my FRO SP for "The Office" fail last night!!! The grass is definitely not always greener!

[Bones]

Postcode : SS5
Service Provider : Sky Digital

Channel : BBC One (101)
1100 Wed 15 Jan
TiVo thought "Big Strong Boys" was showing
Actually aired (and reported correctly on Sky EPG) was "Trading Up In The Sun"

Channel : VH1 (443)
1700 Wed 22 Jan
TiVo thought "Sexy Videos" was showing
Actually aired (and reported correctly on Sky EPG) was "The Bee Gees : VH1 to One"

Channel : VH1 (443)
2130 Wed 22 Jan
TiVo thought "Sexy Videos" was showing
Actually aired (and reported correctly on Sky EPG) was "Bee Gees For One Night Only"

[dmchapman]

Postcode: CT19
Source: Sky Digital
Channel: CBeebies
Number: 622


As always, when CBeebies change their shedule the listing break :-(

Every episode of "Come outside" is currently being recorded - there is actually only one new program a day which is repeated 3 times. Can this be flagged as a general problem with this channel? Every time a new program airs this is wrong yet every time it is repeated 3 times. Correct times are listed on the bbc site as always complete with repeat descriptions.

[cwaring]

I have no problem with the EPG being incorrect if it is unavoidable or OADs are wrong or something. But can someone please tell me why my TV magazine which was probably printed last Saturday has the correct times for tonight's schedule on "five" but my Tivo, which can be updated with around 48 hours notice is wrong.

I know the reason - the Film @ 5.15pm was not the one shown in the Tivo EPG and was 10 minutes longer - I just cannot undestand why the schedule was not updated.

"five" obviously released the correct, updated schedule in time for the magazine to be printed correctly so who forgot to tell Tribune?

EDIT: Whoops! Have I answered my own question? If so, why did they forget? :)

BTW, The corrected schedule is:

Charmed
19:05 to 19:55

Dark Angel
19:55 to 20:45

Five News and Sport
20:45 to 21:10

CSI: Crime Scene Investigation
21:10 to 22:10

Family of Cops III
22:10 to 23:55

Between Love and Hate
23:55 to 01:40

Dead by Sunset
01:40 to 03:55

Monsters
03:55 to 04:15

Russell Grant's Postcards
04:15 to 04:30

First Wave
04:30 to 05:10

[DMc]

We seem to have listings from a few weeks ago

Channel BBC7
Freeview Channel 78

To take a few programmes from Mon 27 Jan for example:

0800 Talking Comedy - should be Hole in the Wall Gang
0830 Knowing Me Knowing You - should be On the Hour
1400 The Boosh - should be Life Death & Sex
1800 Guards = should be Dr Who
2300 4 at the Store = should be Mary Whitehouse Experience
2330 The O Show = should be Curried Goat Show

and thats just the ones I want to record. It's pretty much the same for the rest of the week.

[kitschcamp]

Listings seem to have dried up.

DE74, ntl:

I now have less than one week of data for BBC1EM, BBC2, ITV1CEN, BBCCHOI and BBC4 till Saturday 1st Feb.

I have till C4 till Monday(!) 3rd February.

C5 is the only "normal" channel with two weeks of listings.

Normally these channels start appearing on Friday night, so for it to get to Sunday and no progress is a tad worrying.

[Jim99]

Re BBC7:

We had problems getting the schedule from the BBC for this service. It was received on Friday and the data was updated through 1 Feb straight away.

We also received the schedule for the next seven days as well, that info will be inserted on Monday morning,

Apologies for this delay but it was beyond our control. The correct listings should be with users very soon.

Thanks for your patience.

[qIroS]

Damn. I didn't see Carls post about fives listings being wrong in time and thus I missed the end of Dark Angel on Saturday... How in hell can a whole channel be wrong. Good job we're not paying for this. Oh, wait......

[cwaring]

Originally posted by qIroS
Damn. I didn't see Carls post about fives listings being wrong in time and thus I missed the end of Dark Angel on Saturday... How in hell can a whole channel be wrong. Good job we're not paying for this. Oh, wait......

1. That'll teach you to check here more often :)

2. For an explanation, go up five posts (now that's irony!). I'm not going to repeat myself :)

3. Links to Ep18 info:
Fan Site (http://www.darkangeltv.com/navigate.php?section=reports&tab=files&subtab=episode_info&episode=118)
Official Site (http://www.darkangeltheseries.com/theseries/doc_eguide_1_1ade18.htm)

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by Jim99
Re BBC7:

We had problems getting the schedule from the BBC for this service. It was received on Friday and the data was updated through 1 Feb straight away.

We also received the schedule for the next seven days as well, that info will be inserted on Monday morning,

Apologies for this delay but it was beyond our control. The correct listings should be with users very soon.

Thanks for your patience.

Many thanks for letting us know. (saves me a load of typing too :) ). I found out that "On The Hour" was on tomorrow when I heard a trailer; for those who don't know it was the original radio forerunner to "The Day Today" TV series, VERY highly recommended!

PS Hope you manage to catch a repeat of The Office on BBC America!

[OzSat]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
Listings seem to have dried up.

DE74, ntl:

I now have less than one week of data for BBC1EM, BBC2, ITV1CEN, BBCCHOI and BBC4 till Saturday 1st Feb.

I have till C4 till Monday(!) 3rd February.

C5 is the only "normal" channel with two weeks of listings.

Normally these channels start appearing on Friday night, so for it to get to Sunday and no progress is a tad worrying. This is under discussion at MISSING DATA PROBLEMS (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98051)

[Daf_Loz]

At last we have some decent listings for Motors TV but I my SP for Zone F1 has recorded the same episode five times so far. The seem to be identified as though they are different episodes.

I guess this would depend on the channel's synopsis?

[mrtickle]

Looking at the data for Zone F1 on MOTORS, it only has generic data. Ie different episodes are not marked, and so tivo will try to record every broadcast. You'll have to remove duplicates manually. If there is a known pattern, please post it here - it is one episode new per week, which one is the 'new' and which are 're-runs' etc.

BTW thankyou, I am a big F1 fan and didn't know this programme existed! SP set! To be honest I haven't really looked at motors TV much yet.

[geekspeak]

Originally posted by geekspeak
Not sure if this is a known problem? .. but the listings for Reality TV seem totally wrong.

Source: NTL Digital (ex c&w)
Channel Number: 909

This does not seem an isolated case, as I have recorded wrong problems consistenty over the past weeks and only just did this comparison.


Originally posted by ozsat
Digiguide has yet another version of the schedules, so do you know which one is correct?

Sorry for the delay in responding - hadn't noticed the follow-up with being a large thread.

I have done some checking with the listings for Reality TV (Ch. 909 ntl exC&W) Unfortunately, TIVO still seems to be wrong for the majority of programmes. I have checked the digiguide (web version) and within a 24 hour period only a couple of programmes differ with the NTL epg. (I do not know if those couple of programmes are wrong in the NTL epg too). In my experience the NTL epg guide has always been correct for this channel. I therefore summise that the digiguide listing would be a VAST improvement of the current TIVO listings for this channel.

If you need any more examples/specifics to get this resolved let me know.

[nickchristie]

Post Code: W13
Source: NTL Digital ex-CWC
Channel #: 805
Channel Name: Discovery Wings
Date Time: 30/01 20:00
Programme: Flight Deck - Concorde
Problem: should be Great Escapes - Men who fell to Earth

Date Time: 30/01 23:00
Programme: Flight Deck - Concorde
Problem: should be Great Escapes - Men who fell to Earth

[steford]

W5
Paramount Comedy
105/NTL Digital Cable
Seinfeld
Daily 9:30pm
Series guide data is wrong. Paramount currently showing Series 7 (skipped 5 & 6!!). Guide data shows series 5 episodes which Paramount have no rights for (although what happened to 6 I don't know!)

[groovyclam]

Post Code: CW8
Source: Sky Digital
Channel: 922
Channel Name: BBC7
Date Time: Now and onwards
Programme: All
Problem: The schedules for BBC7 for today, this week and upcoming weeks are still very wrong and need a thorough checking.

[bobnick]

Bremner Bird & Fortune, Ch 4, 2/2 - Tivo thinks it's a repeat and won't tape it under the 28 day rule. I think this is a new episode.

Baddiel & Skinner Unplanned: ITV1 & 2, Various dates - Tivo thinks these are one-off shows, repeated from last year. Should be a new series I think.

Oh, and the tube's description gets worse each week. Not that I'm picky or anything :)

[djrowley]

Originally posted by groovyclam
Post Code: CW8
Source: Sky Digital
Channel: 922
Channel Name: BBC7
Date Time: Now and onwards
Programme: All
Problem: The schedules for BBC7 for today, this week and upcoming weeks are still very wrong and need a thorough checking.

Can I second that. Tivo has been a lifesend in being able to catch entire series of programmes I thought I would not hear again, but the BBC7 schedule is getting too unreliable - I've had to resort to setting a date/time recording for some shows to aviod missing them.

Thanks

David

[sanderton]

Platform: Sky
Channel: Travel Channel

Tivo has been trying to record stuff from Travel Channel in the mornings. Unfortunately it is not broadcasting in the mornings (or when it does it's just ads not programmes.)

[OzSat]

Originally posted by sanderton
Platform: Sky
Channel: Travel Channel

Tivo has been trying to record stuff from Travel Channel in the mornings. Unfortunately it is not broadcasting in the mornings (or when it does it's just ads not programmes.) What has happened is that Travel has split there programmes ober two different channels - but haven't told listings providers.

[Jim99]

Re BBC Radio 7:

Anyone care to give some examples?

Our data is correct per latest schedules released by the BBC. Please see my post regarding the late arrival of new schedules last week. Our info is current through Feb 6.

[groovyclam]

re: BBC7 wrong

examples: TiVo thinks "Ladies of Letters make Mincemeat" is on every weekday. No it is not. This is a repeat of the Christmas week schedule over and over again.

Also TiVo thinks "League of Gentlemen" will be on every Monday at 08:30 and 22:00 - no it is not - according to Radio Times and DigiGuide that slot now carries "On the Hour"

[Jim99]

Both shows were replaced last week. Are you having trouble with daily calls? I know that Ozsat had reported similar problems to TiVo CS.