ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors [Text View] - Page 5

mrtickle

08-08-2002, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by cwaring
- Postcode ALL
- Service Provider ALL
- Channel Name ITV
- Channel Number Various
- Programme Name "The Living Daylights"
- Time/Date of airing Wednesday 14/8/02
- Problem encountered
Actually, there are two linked problems here. One is that the EPG is miising the "News At Ten" as it has been since these films began. This is because the film is interupted at ten for the news (10:00pm-10:20pm). For those recording the film, the extra 20 mins might be enough to kick off a ! recording or a suggestion... etc. For those who want ONLY the news, say on a SP, they won't get it 'cos it's not there.

I don't think it's impossible for the guide data to be correct for both the film and the news without splitting the film into halves and requiring the user to set up two recordings for the film. This would also mean new TmsIds and synopses in the Tribune database just for ITV. I think they've just decided to give the films priority over the news which is fair enough.

ozsat

08-08-2002, 02:50 PM

I was just going to post something similar.

How many people would set a record on the film - and be upset that TiVo didn't record the second half?

What is needed is a system which will force-link the two parts together - so selection of the first part will force record the second part. The news could then be listed as well.

ozsat

08-08-2002, 04:54 PM

Or even better - a sub-programme feature.

ie: Grandstand on Saturday could be recorded as one big single event - or you could record the single segments you actually require!

cwaring

08-10-2002, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by cwaring

- Postcode WF1
- Service Provider Telewest AD
- Channel Name BBC News 24
- Channel Number 610
- Programme Name "Click Online"
- Time/Date of airing At various times on Sat & Sun
- Problem encountered
Every showing after the first one on a Saturday is a repeat and should not be scheduled to record. In other words, there is ONE EPISODE per weekend which is shown at various times. If one clashes one of the others should be recorded. IYSWIM :) At the moment I am getting arond this with a "KAM 1" and "KUID", but would appreciate the problem being sorted properly. Thanks muchly!

Has this been fixed yet? Also, every episode seems to have the same OAD - 6/4/2000, even though they look like new episodes. Well, certainly todays is. One of the features is the 21st birthday of the PC.

08-10-2002, 10:15 AM

Channel: BBC1
Programme: Top Of The Pops
Problem:

Friday's showing was moved to BBC2 because of the Athletics. Season pass missed it because it was on BBC2. Fair enough. OAD on this showing was correctly listed as 9/8/2002.

Tomorrow's repeat on BBC1 at 3:05am has an OAD of 2/8/2002. Result: TiVo missed the first one because the channel changed and thinks it doesn't need to record the repeat because it looks like it got it last week.

Aaaargh!!! *beats head against wall*

cwaring

08-10-2002, 04:32 PM

- Postcode WF1
- Service Provider Telewest AD
- Problem encountered
Just a 'heads-up'. I don't have any ITV1 or C4 data after 5am next Saturday, August 17. Other channels OK. I'm sure it's just a glitch, but just thought I'd mention it anyway :)

ozsat

08-10-2002, 04:51 PM

ITV1 often doesn't arrive until the Sunday update!

groovyclam

08-11-2002, 08:27 AM

- Postcode CW8
- Service Provider SkyDigital
- Channel Name BBC Choice
- Channel Number 160
- Programme Name "Queer as Folk"
- Time/Date of airing Sundays 11/8/02 and 18/8/02
- Problem encountered

The new Sunday episodes of "Queer as Folk" are not being picked up by a season pass as TiVo is reporting that another showing is available.

Please fix these "bad" 28-day flags.

The Sunday late-evening shows are not repeats and are new episodes ( to the UK ).

groovyclam

08-11-2002, 08:37 AM

- Postcode CW8
- Service Provider SkyDigital
- Channel Name British Eurosport
- Channel Number 419
- Programme Name "Tennis"
- Time/Date of airing Sunday 11/8/02 and onwards for next three weeks
- Problem encountered

TiVo is failing to record some episodes of the WTA fixtures because it has them flagged as repeats of other episodes.

No doubt these are "repeat/edited highlight" episodes of previous "live" episodes but this is NOT, NOT, NOT the way ANY sports-fan of ANY type of sport wants TiVo to work.

I will be *very annoyed* if TiVo records edited highlights instead of the entirety of a live match because it is flagged as the "same" episode.

Please remove these same-episode flags for the Tennis on Eurosport. ( And you should think about how you apply them to all sport programmes. )

A better way would be to change the programme name of the "highlight/repeat" episodes to something like "Tennis Highlights" and keep the "live" episodes as "Tennis" or maybe change them to "Live Tennis"

mrtickle

08-11-2002, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by cwaring

(click online)

Has this been fixed yet?

No it hasn't. Nor has Talking Movies, Inside Formula One, It's Your Money, Trading Up, Banzai... :down:

Also, every episode seems to have the same OAD - 6/4/2000, even though they look like new episodes. Well, certainly todays is. One of the features is the 21st birthday of the PC.

Any series which isn't setup as Episodes will always have the flags set to False (causing the 28day rule to be disabled and every broadcast to be scheduled for recording), with identical OADs (using the OAD of the first transmission or import into the tribune dbase) and TmsIDs (ending in 0000). With some series it's not a problem if each episode is only shown once anyway, but with these programmes that a repeated it's a royal PITA and needs fixing please :)

woody

08-11-2002, 11:52 AM

Provider:SkyDigital
Channel:SkyPremier (301-305)
Time/date:All
Program:What Women Want.
Problem:The OAD is wrong (6/3/02), it premiered last night (10/8/2002), also its not an episode.

ozsat

08-11-2002, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by woody
Provider:SkyDigital
Channel:SkyPremier (301-305)
Time/date:All
Program:What Women Want.
Problem:The OAD is wrong (6/3/02), it premiered last night (10/8/2002), also its not an episode. OADs normally refer the first UK screening - and not the first screening on this channel.

Hasn't "What Women Want" already screened on SBO and Front Row?

bobnick

08-12-2002, 08:20 PM

Provider: DTT
Channel: ITV1
Date: Friday Mornings
Programme: CD:UK
Postcode: WC1

CD:UK is broadcast live every saturday morning. It is then repeated the next Friday. Tivo has no information on this repeat, other than the time and name, so a CD:UK SP picks it up. Please can we have proper episode and OAD information put on it, and if possible, the full programme description (which has the artists on, so wishlists work?)

News 24 has incorrect presenter information for the main bulletins throughout the day - it thinks the same people work all day, which screws up my "CHRIS EAKIN" wishlist.

Also, some of the programme descriptions in general are a bit sparse, especially on Channel 5 and ITV2. Are we not entitled to a bit more than 'Variety' for 10 pounds a month? Channel 5 spends a small fortune making its own version of the radio times devoted to its own channel. This includes information on everything it's showing, and they send it out to lots of journalists each week, so there's no excuse why this info can't be put onto Tivo. It's not a classic magazine, I grant you, but if anyone wants some plot spoilers for what's happening down on Dappledown Farm in 3 weeks, drop me a message :)

Brownedger

08-13-2002, 03:47 AM

- Postcode - ST6
- Service Provider - Sky Digital
- Channel Name - Sky Sports 1
- Channel Number - 401
- Programme Name - Monday Night Football
- Time/Date of airing - 19th August at 19.00

Problem: This is Live Premiership and is not indexed in the Football season pass upcoming for this channel.

Please can you make sure that all future MNF's are available to the season pass.

csansbury

08-14-2002, 06:33 AM

- Postcode: AB10
- Service Provider: sky digital
- Channel Name: BBC 1 Scotland
- Channel Number: 101
- Programme Name: Sportscene
- Time/Date of airing: 14/8/2002 19:30
- Problem encountered: Tivo programme guide showing programme as Match of the Day's Manchenster United (yawn) coverage, which is not being shown in Scotland. We are lucky enough to have coverage of the Celtic match in Sportscene.

We in Scotland are also likely to have different match coverage when the Champions League games are shown on ITV.

alphabeta

08-14-2002, 08:55 AM

Sorry, I am not going to conform to the format (shock, horror) - when I saw this wasn't recorded right, I deleted the programme without writing down all the details.

Anyway:
PC: SL6
Plat: Sky
Chan: Discovery Home and Leisure
Programme: "Lost" (ironic I know)

The last-but-one Lost recording on my season pass (Monday I think) recorded something completely different on DHL.

mrtickle

08-14-2002, 04:51 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Radio 4
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: Dead Ringers
Time/Date of Airing: Fridays 18:30
Time/Date of Re-Run: Saturdays 12:30

Problem 1: only the Friday 16th Aug broadcast is in the guide data.

These are missing:
Sat 17th Aug 12:30 - repeat of Fri 16th

Fri 23rd Aug 18:30 - new episode
Sat 24th Aug 12:30 - repeat of Fri 23rd

Problem 2: flags not set as Episodes for the Friday 16th Aug showing, so when the repeats are added into the guide data the 28-day rule is going to fail again :(

mrtickle

08-14-2002, 04:52 PM

Previously reported 30th June, 17th July, 22nd July, 30th July, 8th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: Talking Movies
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 05:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Saturdays 15:30 and 22:30; Sundays 03:30

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-14-2002, 04:53 PM

Previously reported 10th July, 17th July, 22nd July, 30th July, 8th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: It's Your Money
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 07:45
Time/Date of re-runs: (Saturdays 21:45); Sundays 06:45 and 08:45

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-14-2002, 04:54 PM

Previously reported 17th July, 22nd July, 30th July, 8th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: Click Online
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 04:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Saturdays 10:30; 14:30; Sundays 05:30 and 15:30

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-14-2002, 04:55 PM

Previously reported 22nd July, 30th July, 8th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Banzai

Episode details are still missing.
Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

Here are the next 4 that need fixing:

Time/Date of airing: Wed 14 Aug 22:50
Time/Date of re-run: Thu 15 Aug 02:35

Time/Date of airing: Wed 21 Aug 22:45
Time/Date of re-run: Thu 22 Aug 02:25

mrtickle

08-14-2002, 04:56 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons

Ten viewers choice episodes on Mon 26th Aug - see last week's posts for ideas
on how to enhance.

mrtickle

08-14-2002, 04:57 PM

Previously reported 30th June, 22nd July, 30th July.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Eurosport GB
Channel Number: 412
Programme Name: Inside Formula One
Time/Date of airing: Tues 27th Aug 12:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Thurs 29th Aug 00:15, 11:00, 23:45.

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

This programme airs during the week leading up to a Formula One Grand Prix event. There is only ever ONE new programme in the block, all other showings are re-runs of that broadcast.

mrtickle

08-14-2002, 04:59 PM

Previously reported 22nd July, 30th July.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK Style
Channel Number: 148
Programme Name: Trading Up
Time/Date of airing: Fri 9th Aug 18:30

Episode details missing for:

22nd Aug 18:30
23rd Aug 18:30
26th Aug 18:30
27th Aug 18:30
28th Aug 18:30
29th Aug 18:30
31st Aug 19:00

mrtickle

08-14-2002, 05:00 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC One
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Top of the Pops

Time/Date of airing: Fri 16th Aug 19:30 (EP4075790037)
Time/Date of re-run: Sun 18th Aug 02:10

Problem: flags not set and wrong TmsId on the re-runs. 28-day rule is not
working.

kitschcamp

08-16-2002, 05:30 AM

- DE74
- ntl:
- FilmFour / FilmFour + 1
- 701/714

Not so much an "error" (as most listings seem to have the same problem), but a big big wish.

One of the wonderful things about FilmFour is the short films that they show, some of which have really moved me or had me in stitches, or sitting there in total puzzlement.

At one time TiVo and FilmFour's magazine used to list them properly as separate programs. These days, sadly, the magazine is no more, and TiVo no longer lists them as separate programs.

Any chance of persuading FilmFour to start providing details of the shorts again? The irony being that at the moment it's FilmFour's short film awards, and now I can't see as many as I used to.

dallardice

08-16-2002, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by kitschcamp
Any chance of persuading FilmFour to start providing details of the shorts again? The irony being that at the moment it's FilmFour's short film awards, and now I can't see as many as I used to.

Wish seconded.

The six shortlisted films are being shown on C4 tomorrow night, 0020-0120, repeated Sunday night 2350-0055.

groovyclam

08-16-2002, 11:57 AM

Any chance of persuading FilmFour to start providing details of the shorts again?

Totally agree.

FilmFour is where I first saw the wonderful Spanish short "En Malas Compañias" and only by accident.

Anyway, I'm taking this thread off-topic so to bring it back:

Please mr/ms Tribune rep can you contact FilmFour and ask them to supply the short film listings details which follow the main feature films across all the FilmFour channels.

Postcode: CW8
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: FilmFour, FilmFour+1, FilmFour World, FilmFour Extreme
Channel Number: 323, 324, 325, 326

bobnick

08-16-2002, 06:58 PM

Hi,
Mr & Mrs Tribune have also neglected CD:UK yet again, resulting in yet another screw-up of ITV1's flagship music show. It's one thing for them to make a mistake in Discovery H&L +1, but to consistently bugger up this show is a bit silly. Anyhow:
Postcode: WC1R
Provider: DTT
Channel Name: ITV1
Channel Number: 3
Programme Name: CD:UK
Time/Date of airing: Sat 17th Aug 11:00
Tivo does not have this show in its listings - so no SP will pick it up. And of course, it makes no mention of the fact that it has Oasis' new video, so wishlists aren't going to pick it up.

Time/Date of re-run: 17th @ 6.30pm, ITV2
18th @ 1.15pm, ITV2
23rd @ 1.50am, ITV1
All listed in Tivo, but with "No Information" or episode details as far as I can see (I haven't got backdoors on at the minute).

Am I just being too fussy here? I was expecting a decent (but not perfect) service when I paid up for my Tivo - missing entire programmes is a bit too much!
Please can you fix these problems asap?

Thank you Tribune Peeps

cwaring

08-16-2002, 07:14 PM

They can get to that after they've sorted out the "Charmed" problem I mentioned last month :)

kenjolly

08-17-2002, 01:37 PM

- Postcode FY3
- Service Provider Analogue
- Channel Name CH4
- Channel Number 65
- Programme Name Will and Grace
- Time/Date of airing 21:30 Friday nights (16th/23rd, etc)
- Problem encountered Using First run option in recording options does not record any episode and using First Run and Repeats records repeats and first run programmes. Friday is currently showing the new second series and the frist series seems to be being repeated during the week. I wanted Friday's episode to record but it didn't. Customer service said it was the american network provider of the series that is at fault - I thought it was Tivo that setup what was a repeat and what wasn't (surely that's what I pay my £10pm for !). Please fix this as I have to delete two episode a week for every one I want to keep.

cwaring

08-17-2002, 02:28 PM

I agree with kenjolly. I am having the same problem. (TWAD, WF1)
It's the OAD that is wrong, which is causing the bother. It's either been set to the US first-run date or the UKLiving FR date. Whilst technically it's correct, this is the "First Run" on a TERRESTRIAL channel.

mrtickle

08-18-2002, 05:08 AM

Not an error as such but missing data. For the week beginning the 24th, I've now got all the channels except BBC2 and ITV. Surprising that BBC2 is later than all the other BBC channels. I assume we'll get the data tonight?

Also C4 was strange - I got half a week's data on Friday night and the rest of the week last night.

bobg

08-19-2002, 03:13 PM

-pstcode kt3
-provider skyD
-channel itv1lon
-channel 103
-program london tonight
Program did not record this evening at 1800 and is not scheculed for the rest of the week, the schedule has granada news instead of the london news in all slots - i have not checked if i simply have the wrong region lists or if its just the news thats fouled up

Paj

08-19-2002, 04:44 PM

Postcode: HD9
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel: ITV2
Programme: Coronation Street

A generic synopsis had slipped in with isepisode set to false. Normally this has been very good but now it's recording every showing.

UncUgly

08-20-2002, 07:22 AM

PostCode: SM7
Platform: Skydigital
Channel: Channel 5
Programme: Home and Away
Problem: No synopsis shown resulting in all episodes being recorded (1800 premier and 1230 repeat (following day))

Richardr

08-20-2002, 08:17 AM

Postcode: AL3
Provider: ntl:home digital
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 140
Programme Name: Law and Order
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 23:00 starting 24/8/2002

Other listings have the above.

Tivo has a repeat of "Is Harry on the Boat." - which has now been put back to midnight.

mccg

08-20-2002, 06:38 PM

My first entry on this thread, so bear with me if I've missed something...

Postcode: PO16
Provider: ntl:home digital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 4
Programme Name: World Rally
Time/Date of airing: Friday 23-08-2002, 20:00

Other listings have the above.

TiVo has "The Mummy Roadshow" - Ep "One Tough Cowboy", OAD 16-06-2002.

Maybe TiVo know something we don't and the (German) rally has been cancelled due to floods..... but Ch4, autosport, etc web sites still says Rally is on...

Cheers,
Mike

sxb

08-20-2002, 07:28 PM

PostCode: HA4
Platform: Terrestrial (analogue)
Channel: ITV1LON
Programme: Various
Problem: Programme listings are for Granada instead of London, such as...
Granada News, instead of London Today
Shortland Street, instead of London Today
Granada Reports, instead of London Tonight
Crime File, instead of Carlton Country

(and probably every regional variation between Granada (North) and Carlton (South)

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 03:28 AM

Previously reported at least 6 times:
30th June,
17th July,
22nd July,
30th July,
8th August,
14th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: Talking Movies
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 05:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Saturdays 15:30 and 22:30; Sundays 03:30

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 03:30 AM

Previously reported at least 6 times:
10th July,
17th July,
22nd July,
30th July,
8th August,
14th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: It's Your Money
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 07:45
Time/Date of re-runs: (Saturdays 21:45); Sundays 06:45 and 08:45

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 03:32 AM

Previously reported at least 5 times:
17th July,
22nd July,
30th July,
8th August,
14th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: Click Online
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 04:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Saturdays 10:30; 14:30; Sundays 05:30 and 15:30

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 03:35 AM

Previously reported at least 4 times:
22nd July,
30th July,
8th August,
14th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Banzai
Time/Date of airing: Wednesdays 22:45
Time/Date of re-runs: Thursdays 02:30ish

Episode details are still missing.
Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 03:36 AM

Previously reported at least 4 times:
30th June,
22nd July,
30th July,
14th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Eurosport GB
Channel Number: 412
Programme Name: Inside Formula One
Time/Date of airing: Tues 27th Aug 12:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Thurs 29th Aug 00:15, 11:00, 23:45.

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

This programme airs during the week leading up to a Formula One Grand Prix event. There is only ever ONE new programme in the block, all other showings are re-runs of that broadcast.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 03:39 AM

Previously reported at least 3 times:
22nd July,
30th July,
14th August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK Style
Channel Number: 148
Programme Name: Trading Up
Time/Date of airing: many, various

Episode details still missing for almost every episode on UK Style.

kitschcamp

08-22-2002, 07:24 AM

- DE74
- ntl:
- UK Food
- 808
- River Cafe Cookbook
- Thursdays and Saturdays

TMSID=SH5123460000
IsEp = false

- On a Thursday the 7:30am, 11am and 4pm shows are the same. Similarly, the Saturday 11am and 3pm shows are the same.

This was reported on July 30th, and still isn't sorted.

cwaring

08-22-2002, 09:15 AM

- Postcode WF1
- Service Provider TW AD
- Channel Name Sky One
- Channel Number 120
- Programme Name "Is Harry On The Boat?"
- Time/Date of airing 2300
- Problem encountered
Programme Time is wrong. Your data needs updating!

Taken from: http://www.skypublicity.co.uk/

AMENDMENTS TO PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED AUGUST SKY DIGITAL SCHEDULES
(WEEKLY AMENDMENT NUMBER 285, 1 PAGE)
SKY ONE
Saturday 24 August
23.00 - 01.00 Delete: Scheduled programmes and replace as follows:
23.00 LAW AND ORDER - Cherished
Investigation of a baby's death exposes an illegal Russian adoption ring specialising in placing terminally ill babies with unsuspecting families.
24.00 IS HARRY ON THE BOAT?
The saucy summer fun continues as Geordie Donna pushes the boundaries of decency to the limit. Will there be any comeback for her outrageous behaviour?
01.00 Schedule resumes as published.

bignoise

08-22-2002, 01:43 PM

Postcode: SO19
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Nick Jr & Nicktoons TV
Channel Number: 624 & 606

Since Nick Jr moved channel number, neither of these channels have any episode data in the listings. Programme names are there, but nothing else. Why?

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 02:16 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK Style & UK Style+1
Channel Number: 148 & 149
Programme Name: House Doctor
Time/Date of airing: 20:30 daily. 10:30, 11:30 and 20:30 from Sep 2nd.

Episode details missing for every episode. IsEp false, generic TmsIds. Duplicates are not picked up and with three each day this is very annoying.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 02:18 PM

Previously reported 30th June. Was fixed, but is broken again from 7th September :(

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Jeeves and Wooster
Time/Date of airing: Saturday 7th Sep 19:00
Time/Date of re-run: Sunday 8th Sep 00:00

Problem 1: Episode synopsis missing. When this series was last shown, TiVo had descriptions. Surely they are still in the database?

Problem 2: Duplicates are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 02:19 PM

Previously reported at least 2 times:
22nd July,
30th July.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: That Gay Show
Time/Date of airing: Sundays 23:15
Time/Date of re-run: Tues 01:30

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 02:20 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: Shooting Stars
Time/Date of airing: 28th Aug 22:00

This is an old repeat. The OAD is correct but it is not set as an Episode in the Guide Data. A First-Run-Only SP wrongly picks up this programme.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 02:21 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Frank Skinner Show
Time/Date of airing: Mon-Fri 23:00

Descriptions missing from every episode. Not set as Episodes in the Guide Data. Digiguide has the descriptions so they must be available from Paramount.

mrtickle

08-22-2002, 02:22 PM

Previously reported at least 3 times:
30th June,
22nd July,
30th July.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: ITV2 and ITV1
Channel Number: 226 and 103
Programme Name: Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: various

You have a full correct set of episode data for the ITV1 showings. The ITV1 showings have (almost - see below) correct descriptions, and correct episode numbers. Please use them for ITV2!

ITV2 shows re-runs at 22:00 which are of the episode that aired earlier that evening on ITV1. The showings during the afternoons are of episodes which aired a few days previously on ITV1.

The descriptions for the ITV1 showings contain text which should be used in the ITV2 daytime re-run descriptions for the same episode, eg "Shown Wednesday [on ITV1]". This text should not appear in the first showing on ITV1.

This was partially fixed but has now slipped back again. The ITV2 data from 25th August has now regressed to generic data, wrong episode flags and generic TmsIds. The ITV1 data still contains the extra "shown xxx" text. :(

biltonl

08-23-2002, 04:03 AM

Postcode: KT6
Provider: analogue terrestrial
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel number: 26
Programme Name: Various
Time/Date of airing: various

As previous post by KevinHopkins - the same is true for BBC London, Channel 26.

Additionally TiVo says I have data up until Wed 11th Sept but in reality for the last few weeks I have only had data for about the next 6 or 7 days. Which is fine until I go on a two week holiday!

"0600 on Sat 2nd March 2002 to 2359 Sun 3rd March 2002 (well midnight, but it's midnight Sunday into Monday) BBC1 is showing the generic "BBC ONE" programme info at two hourly intervals. The programme guide is correct before and after the above times, through to around Sat 9th March 2002. It's just that weekend that has the info missing. "

ChrisP1

08-23-2002, 04:30 AM

GU22
NTL Analogue

Missed first episode of New Series of West Wing last night, as guide shows first aired 22/06/02 not 22/08/02. All Subsequent episodes also show the same June original air date, not August. I assume that this is a listing error, as E4 have been advertising this as the "Brand New" seies for the last couple of weeks....

gadgetguy

08-23-2002, 03:00 PM

Postcode:EH7 6TW
Provider:Analogue terrestrial
Channel name:BBC2 SCOTLAND
Channel number:027
Programme name:T in the Park
Programme time:2335-0035
Date 23 August 2002

Not showing as listed-listings show 2335 Liar 0005 Buffy (English BBC2 Schedule

bobbymobile

08-23-2002, 06:42 PM

Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Paramount
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Sienfeld
Time/Date of airing: 1.30 24/8/02 and 12.45 25/8/02

Descriptions missing, no episode info present for the above dates.

gadgetguy

08-24-2002, 04:54 AM

POSTCODE:EH7 6TW
PROVIDER:SKY Digital
CHANNEL NAME:Sky Sports One
CHANNEL NUMBER:401
PROGRAMME NAME:Football
Programme time:1200-1430
Date 24 August 2002

Live match showing at this time Man City v Newcastle not listed!

Dave_Symington

08-24-2002, 06:42 AM

Postcode: KY11
Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.): Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1 Scotland
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Messiah 2
Time/Date of airing: 24 Aug 9.15 PM
Problem encountered: Lists Lost World

Dave_Symington

08-24-2002, 06:45 AM

Ignore last message. TiVo is probably correct; other listings may be wrong. I suspect the showing of Messiah 2 has been cancelled.

Richardr

08-24-2002, 06:48 AM

That's right. Messiah has been cancelled following recent events, and a repeat of Lost World put in its place. TIVO has done well to get the replacement in.

DazBarber

08-24-2002, 07:44 AM

Postcode: RM17
Service Provider: aerial / Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1 / BBC Choice
Channel Number: 26 (or 101) / 160
Programme Name: EastEnders
Time/Date of airing: Every Mon/Tue/Thu/Fri
Problem encountered: TiVo has indictaed that it will start recording both the BBC1 showing and the BBC Choice repeat starting 2/9. This was fixed a few weeks back but something has caused it to start again. It seems that a lot of problems which were fixed a while ago are now re-occuring!

bobnick

08-24-2002, 11:34 AM

CD:UK is still pretty broken! Please fix it!

Poscode: WC1
Service: DTT
Channel: ITV1 (3)
Programme Name: CD:UK

Thanks for putting a detailed description onto the live showing (24th, 11:30) rather than a generic one - unfortunately, it was mostly wrong, and as other guides have the right description, it doesn't seem to be an ITV ****-up. The description is repeated on the ITV2 repeats (they have different episode titles though, yet Tivo knows it's the same episode).
Unfortunately, the ITV1 repeat (30th Aug/1.30am) has no description, the wrong episode title, and Tivo thinks it's a new showing.
Please fix this before Friday!

Overall, 7/10!

PS Please fix the Eastenders problem (above) by the end of the month, or else my Tivo is going to go Eastenders crazy!

groovyclam

08-24-2002, 01:25 PM

Postcode: CW8
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC Radio 4
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: Letter From America
Time/Date of airing: Every Fri/Sat/Sun

The Saturday and Sunday editions of this programme are actually repeats of the Friday edition.

The Friday edition is always the new episode for the week.

TiVo thinks each episode is a new one.

bignoise

08-24-2002, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by bobnick
.. Please fix this before Friday!

.. Please fix the Eastenders problem (above) by the end of the month
You may want to just remove the extra showings from your ToDo list yourself, if you don't want the repeats to be recorded. Doesn't take a couple of seconds. :-)

bobnick

08-24-2002, 10:33 PM

'Tivo saves you the one thing money can't buy - TIME!' - my arse!

Fair enough point though - however, my Tivo hasn't gotten round to showing me those Eastenders episodes in my To Do list yet - and I'm going to be busy (and maybe away) during the week, so I'll have to remember to do it next weekend. And if some smart-arse with a hat pops up now and tells me how easy it would be to change it from work if only I had Tivoweb, I'll scream (No offense Mr Tickle - I know you're not really on comission! I'm just jealous of your smugness & hapiness since you got a network card.)

I have a theory that Tivo, like many Britons, supports the underdog. It seems to be attacking the most popular programmes on the box:
BBC1 #1 show - Eastenders
BBC Choice #1 show - Eastenders - wrong SP information
BBC2 #1 show - Simpsons - Tivo misses the start / end
ITV1 #1 show - Corrie - wrong descriptions
E4 #1 show - West Wing - Wrong OAD on some providers

If I was channel 4, I'd place a call to Tivo HQ to make sure that Tivo had all the right info for 'Make Me A Man'! (Don't forget though that Tivo had trouble with the BB final, as it was marked down as BB Live)

You see, my theory holds water... I'm not just paranoid and crazy... or maybe it's just that there's so many listing errors you can find whatever patterns you like in them (like the bible code)

Richardr

08-25-2002, 07:23 AM

- Postcode: AL3
- Service Provider: ntl:home
- Channel Name: TV5
- Channel Number: 845
- Programme Name: France Foot
- Time/Date of airing: 25/8/2002 8:05pm & 12:05pm
- Problem encountered: Programme not in schedule

Previously reported 3 weeks ago. The weekly French football highlights are still not in the TIVO schedule for TV5.

These are in other schedules, including that on the TV5 web site and in Digiguide.

Richardr

08-25-2002, 07:38 AM

Re the above about TV5 - going through the TIVO schedules against the actual programmes for today gives quite a few errors, and places where TIVO says 'film' with no detail.

It would seem that TIVO has just a generic schedule, and one that hasn't been updated for programme changes for some weeks.

bobnick

08-25-2002, 01:17 PM

Grrr.... I moan about the accuracy of Tribune's listings in another thread, and what do they do? Go and wreck all the programmes I have scheduled to record, that's what! They're out to get me, I tell you ! :p

Here we go again:

Programme: Law & Order (Channel 5's No 1 show BTW :D (see above))
Channel: 5
Postcode: WC1
Provider: DTT
Date & Time: 31st August, 10:20am

Tivo thinks that Law and Order is on at 10.20 in the morning, and at 10.20 in the evening. The channel 5 schedule was altered a couple of weeks ago, and it looks like someone's put the wrong time in by mistake - Americans don't really do the 24-hour clock (sorry, military time! - it's why '24' has am and pm in its captions!). Hercules is supposed to be on at 10:20 am.
If I hadn't noticed, my SMTV & CD:UK SP wouldn't have recorded, nor would any of the real episodes of Law and Order.

Also, Channel 5 are promoting the documentary 9/11: Tale of Two Towers @ 19:30 on the same day a lot - yet Tivo has no description. There's loads of bumpf out about the show - would it be too much to ask for a couple of sentences to describe this feature length documentary?

bobnick

08-25-2002, 01:30 PM

More CD:UK woes:

Name: CD:UK
Channel: ITV1
Postcode: WC1
Provider: DTT
Date: 6/9
Time: 2.20am

This showing is a repeat of the live show (shown 31st August), but has no description, and my SP thinks it is a new episode.

bobnick

08-25-2002, 01:36 PM

Even more repeat problems...

Name: Phoenix Nights
Channel: 4
Provider: DTT
Postcode: WC1
Date: 31st Aug, 00.10

This episode is a repeat of the episode shown on the 29th. Indeed, Tivo has exactly the same description - but it doesn't realise that they're episodes, and my SP is going to tape both of them

bobnick

08-25-2002, 01:57 PM

Tribune have got this series soooo wrong, I'm beginning to think that part of the partnership arrangement between the BBC & Tivo was for ITV1's major new shows to be disrupted ;). My to-do list has just gone mad, and it's going to take ages to fix it manually - Please Tribune, fix this asap - this is one of ITV's big shows (although that's not saying a lot these days!), and my SPs for it are going to overwork my little Tivo.

Name: I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here! & I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here Now!
Channels: ITV1 & 2
Postcode: WC1
Provider: DTT

My Tivo has absolutely no information about this series other than the title, and even that is wrong. There is a (singular) episode of the main show every day, which is then repeated twice on ITV2. There is also another series running in conjunction with the show called I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here Now! (see the difference?) on ITV2 on some days. This series has a different presenter, is only 30 minutes long and is shown only once. Tivo has these showings down as being part of the main series, wheres they are actually seperate - like Pop Idol, and Pop Idol Extra.
I have (low priority) Season passes for the show on ITV1 and 2. Tivo is going to record each and every live show, and each and every repeat until the series ends. It doesn't realise that it's all part of a series, and has a wrong generic OAD.

Please, please Tribune fix this as soon as you can. This isn't some small error on a geeky show on Discover Home & Leisure +1 Gold, but a major show on a major channel - it is, in effect, Celebrity Survivor (but without the royalties to Charlie Parsons). I need to have SPs on two channels to pick up all the episodes - but I don't need all the showings recording. It would be nice if you could put up a description (there's lots of people for whishlists to record - eg Ant & Dec), but all I really need is for the series link to be put in between the episodes, so we UK viewers don't get well over 40 hours(!) of the show filling up our Tivos in a fortnight!

Gonker

08-26-2002, 08:36 AM

Rugby Club broadcast weekly on SS1 & SS2 is repeated several times.
Tivo has "no information available"
Therefore a SP tries to record all episodes.

Paj

08-26-2002, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by bobnick

all I really need is for the series link to be put in between the episodes

Wash your mouth out!

The nerve of some people.

groovyclam

08-27-2002, 02:48 AM

- Postcode: CW8
- Service Provider: SkyDigital
- Channel Name: FilmFour World
- Channel Number: 325

Only showing generic listings after end of August.

SaintM

08-27-2002, 05:37 AM

Postcode: SO22
Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.): Free Digital
Channel Name: ITV (Meridian)
Programme Name: Cybernet
Time/Date of airing: Ongoing...
Problem encountered: This show is shown in the early hours of Friday morning and repeated in the early hours of Saturday. My season pass which is set up to only record first showing (ie not repeats) always records both episodes (i know i can set it to keep 1 episode until I delete, but thats not the issue).

Edit: Spelling

SimonG

08-27-2002, 06:18 AM

- Postcode: RH10
- Service Provider: SkyDigital
- Channel Name: Ideal World
- Channel Number: 635

No listings

el10t

08-27-2002, 06:57 AM

Postcode: PO15
Service provider: NTL digital cable
Channel: Playhouse Disney
Channel number: 66

My 16 month son really likes "The Bear in the Big Blue House" which is on, I think, three times a day starting at 8:40am. The listings always show this as being a programme called "Singing with Belle" or something similar.

There seems to be a misalignment somewhere.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:11 PM

Previously reported at least 4 times:
22nd July,
30th July,
14th August,
22nd August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK Style
Channel Number: 148
Programme Name: Trading Up
Time/Date of airing: many, various

Problem 1:
Episode details still missing for many episodes:

29th Aug 18:30
5th Sep 18:30
6th Sep 18:30
7th Sep 18:30
8th Sep 18:30
9th Sep 18:30
10th Sep 18:30

Problem 2:
31st Aug 19:00 looks like a wrong entry - Digiguide and the Sky EPG both list a programme called "Take Three Gardeners" in that timeslot, which is a different series!

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:12 PM

Previously reported 30th June. Was fixed, but is broken again from 7th September :(
Re-reported 22nd August, still not fixed and more errors now introduced.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Jeeves and Wooster

Time/Date of airing: Saturday 7th Sep 19:00
Time/Date of re-run: Sunday 8th Sep 00:00

Time/Date of airing: Saturday 14th Sep 19:00
Time/Date of re-run: Sunday 15th Sep 00:00

Problem 1: Episode synopsis missing. When this series was last shown, TiVo had descriptions. Surely they are still in the database?

Problem 2: Duplicates are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

Reference:
http://www.gplus.co.uk/listings/index.php3?Programme=Jeeves_and_Wooster
http://www.gplus.co.uk/listings/eguide.php?Programme=Jeeves%20and%20Wooster
Someone is obviously supplying good data to the website but not to Tribune...

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:13 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The X-Files

Problem 1:
The re-run of "Scary Monsters" on Mon 9th Sep has a different TmsID to its first showing on Thurs 5th Sep, causing both showings to be scheduled for recording. 28 day rule fails.

Time/Date of airing: Thursday 5th Sep 21:00 } should both be EP0809550206
Time/Date of re-run: Monday 9th Sep 22:00 }

Problem 2:
All the episode numbers in the guide are the same, either "8" or "9" - they are being truncated/corrupted somewhere? This affected the BBC data too.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:14 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Radio 4
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: Just a minute
Time/Date of airing: Mondays 18:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Sundays 12:00

Monday 2nd September (repeated Sunday 8th September) is the last programme in the current season, according to the continuity announcer.

Unless he was lieing, it seems the BBC is supplying you with incorrect data:
9th Sep 18:30
15th Sep 12:00
... are both wrong and need to be removed.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:15 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Radio 3
Channel Number: 853
Programme Name: BBC Proms 2002
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Problem 1: It is not possible to set a Season Pass for this series of concerts.

Please note that the BBC provides *extensive* Proms information on their web-site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/broadcasts/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/whatson/weekbyweek/week2508.shtml
They really should be supplying this data to you.

Example data from digiguide:

re-runs of concerts before today:
Thu 29 Aug 14:00-16:00 (re-run of Mon 26 Aug 19:30-20:25)
Fri 30 Aug 14:00-16:00 (re-run of Tue 27 Aug 19:00-19:40/22:00-23:30)

new concerts:
Wed 28 Aug 19:30-21:30 (live), re-run Mon 2 Sep 14:00-16:00
Thu 29 Aug 19:30-20:45 (live), re-run Tue 3 Sep 14:00-16:00
Fri 30 Aug 19:30-20:15 (live), re-run Wed 4 Sep 14:00-16:00
Sat 31 Aug 19:30-19:55 (live) }
Sat 31 Aug 20:15-21:45 (live) } re-run Thu 5 Sep 14:00-16:00
Sun 1 Sep 19:00-20:05 (live)
Sun 1 Sep 20:25-21:45 (live)
Mon 2 Sep 19:00-19:40 (live) }
Mon 2 Sep 22:00-23:30 (live) } re-run Fri 6 Sep 14:05-16:00
Tue 3 Sep 19:30-20:25 (live)
Wed 4 Sep 19:00-19:40 (live)
Wed 4 Sep 22:00-23:30 (live)
Thu 5 Sep 19:30-20:20 (live)
Fri 6 Sep 19:30-20:20 (live)

Problem 2: to pre-empt the 28-day rule not working, please note that the afternoon broadcasts are re-runs of earlier broadcasts.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:16 PM

Previously reported at least 7 times:
30th June,
17th July,
22nd July,
30th July,
8th August,
14th August,
22nd August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24 and BBC Two
Channel Number: 507 and 102
Programme Name: Talking Movies
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 05:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Saturdays 12:45, 15:30 and 22:30; Sundays 03:30

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

Please note that this programme is now also shown on BBC2 on Saturdays at
12:45; that broadcast is a duplicate each week also.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:17 PM

Previously reported at least 7 times:
10th July,
17th July,
22nd July,
30th July,
8th August,
14th August,
22nd August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: It's Your Money
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 07:45
Time/Date of re-runs: Saturdays 21:45; Sundays 06:45 and 08:45

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:18 PM

Previously reported at least 6 times:
17th July,
22nd July,
30th July,
8th August,
14th August,
22nd August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: Click Online
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 04:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Saturdays 10:30; 14:30; Sundays 05:30 and 15:30

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:19 PM

Previously reported at least 5 times:
22nd July,
30th July,
8th August,
14th August,
22nd August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Banzai

Time/Date of airing: Wed 28th Aug 22:50
Time/Date of re-run: Thu 29th Aug 02:45

Time/Date of airing: Wed 4th Sep 22:50
Time/Date of re-run: Thu 5th Sep 01:25

Episode details are still missing.
Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:20 PM

Previously reported at least 5 times:
30th June,
22nd July,
30th July,
14th August,
22nd August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Eurosport GB
Channel Number: 412
Programme Name: Inside Formula One

Time/Date of airing: Tues 27th Aug 12:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Thurs 29th Aug 00:15, 11:00, 23:45.

Time/Date of airing: Tues 10th Sep 18:30
Time/Date of re-runs: Tues 10th 22:45, Wed 11th 10:30, Thurs 12th 22:15, Sat 14th 10:00

Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

This programme airs during the week leading up to a Formula One Grand Prix event. There is only ever ONE new programme in the block, all other showings are re-runs of that broadcast.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:22 PM

Previously reported 22nd August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK Style & UK Style+1
Channel Number: 148 & 149
Programme Name: House Doctor
Time/Date of airing: 20:30 daily. 10:30, 11:30 and 20:30 from Sep 2nd.

Episode details missing for every episode. IsEp false, generic TmsIds. Duplicates are not picked up and with three each day this is very annoying.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:23 PM

Previously reported 22nd August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: Shooting Stars
Time/Date of airing: 28th Aug 22:00, 4th Sep 22:00

Old repeats, not set as an Episodes in the Guide Data.

A First-Run-Only SP wrongly picks up these broadcasts.

All the synopses are the same which is also wrong.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:24 PM

Previously reported 22nd August.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Frank Skinner Show
Time/Date of airing: 28th/29th Aug 23:00

Descriptions missing from every episode. Not set as Episodes in the Guide Data. Digiguide has the descriptions so they must be available from Paramount.

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 01:25 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two & BBC One
Channel Number: 102 & 101
Programme Name: Your Money or Your Life

This programme is shown on BBC2 and then repeated week later on BBC1. The last
two episodes have bad data on the BBC2 showings.

Time/Date of airing: Tue 3rd Sep 19:30 BBC2
This is set in the guide data as IsEpisode false.
It is due to be repeated Wed 11th Sep 02:10 BBC 1

Another duplicate which has faulty data:
Time/Date of airing: Tue 27th Aug 19:30, BBC 2, should be EP3575270030 but isn't. Wrongly set as IsEpisode false.
Time/Date of re-run: Wed 4th Sep 02:10, BBC 1, EP3575270030

The result of this is that the 28-day rule isn't working and duplicates are scheduled to be recorded.

ozsat

08-28-2002, 01:28 PM

'mrtickle' is trying to get the record for "most consecutive posts in a single thread" ;)

mrtickle

08-28-2002, 02:20 PM

I think I have it! What's the prize? :D
(my chosen prize would be to have them all fixed, of course, instead of having to report them 8 times each!)

woody

08-28-2002, 04:36 PM

Sky Digital
channel 443 - VH1
DAte/Time 28/8/2002 21:30 hrs

Prob-Listed as the Greatest hits of Madonna, Actually showing The Rise of Britany Spears.

fister

08-29-2002, 08:03 AM

With the West Wing now showing on E4, RTE1 and SKY ONE is there any chance of getting the Episode numbers for each episode?
http://www.westwingepguide.com/

mrtickle

08-29-2002, 03:30 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Columbo
Time/Date of airing: From 16th Sep, see below.

I *know* that Tribune's database *must* have full synopses with actors, directors etc for this programme! Episode details are missing and the generic description isn't even a proper sentence :(

Please check which episodes are being shown with Granada, and then use your US data for the rest.

Taken from
http://www.gplus.co.uk/listings/full_listings.php?Programme=COLUMBO
(I realise you will need to verify this):
Mon 16th Sep 14:00 "Columbo Goes To The Guillotine"
Mon 16th Sep 21:30 "Murder By The Book"
Tue 17th Sep 14:00 "Murder, Smoke And Shadows", re-run Tue 17th Sep 21:00

Sat 21st Sep 14:00 "Death Lends A Hand", re-run Sat 21st Sep 20:00
Mon 23rd Sep 14:00 "Sex And The Married Dective", re-run Mon 23rd Sep 21:00
Tue 24th Sep 14:00 "Grand Deceptions", re-run Tue 24th Sep 21:00

Sat 28th Sep 14:00 "Dead Weight", re-run Sat 28th Sep 20:00
Mon 30th Sep 14:00 "Murder, A Self Portrait", re-run Mon 30th Sep 21:00
Tue 1st Oct 14:00 "Columbo Cries Wolf", re-run Tue 1st Oct 21:00

Sat 5th Oct 14:00 "Suitable For Framing", re-run Sat 5th Oct 20:00
Mon 7th Oct 14:00 "Agenda For Murder", re-run Mon 7th Oct 21:00
Tue 8th Oct 14:00 "Rest In Peace, Mrs Columbo", re-run Tue 8th Oct 21:00

Sat 12th Oct 14:00 "Lady In Waiting", re-run Sat 12th Oct 20:00
Mon 14th Oct 14:00 "Uneasy Lies The Crown", re-run Mon 14th Oct 21:00
Tue 15th Oct 14:00 "Murder In Malibu", re-run Tue 15th Oct 21:00

There - 5 weeks' worth of data. Hope the pattern of repeats is obvious :)

Please fix the data so that the duplicates will be detected. At present they all have the same TmsID :(

mrtickle

08-29-2002, 03:32 PM

Previously reported at least twice:
21st February,
22nd July.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Faking It
Time/Date of airing: Wed 11th Sep 21:00
Time/Date of re-run: Thu 12th Sep 00:35

Problem 1: Category is "International" - wrong. Should be "Documentary".

Problem 2: Re-runs are being recorded, the 28-day rule is not working.

Toothy

08-29-2002, 04:07 PM

SERIOUS LISTING ERROR

Postcode: DG1
Provider: Sky Digital (Scotland Setup)
Channel Name: BBC2SCO
Channel Number: 26
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of Airing: Thu 29/8 August 18:00

Problem: Didn`t record anything...nothing, nada, zilch.
Time Search bar @ bottom of screen was dark green with 20 minutes playing time.

Pressing Play brings up `Delete This Recording?` page.

cwaring

08-29-2002, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Toothy
SERIOUS LISTING ERROR

Postcode: DG1
Provider: Sky Digital (Scotland Setup)
Channel Name: BBC2SCO
Channel Number: 26
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of Airing: Thu 29/8 August 18:00

Problem: Didn`t record anything...nothing, nada, zilch.
Time Search bar @ bottom of screen was dark green with 20 minutes playing time.

Pressing Play brings up `Delete This Recording?` page.

That would be a Sky Digibox problem then, not a "Listings/Schedule Error"!

Toothy

08-29-2002, 04:38 PM

Is it?? Did a search but found nothing. My bad.

OK here`s one for ya.....

Postcode: DG1
Provider: Sky Digital (Scotland Setup)
Channel Name: Parcom
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Roseanne
Time/Date Of Airing: Tue 13/8 02:30

Problem: Season Pass for this programme. Recorded for 1hr, should only be 30mins.
All other programmes record for their alloted time.

Also the 18:30 airing has plot summary, the 02:30 showing doesn`t. (Same episodes)

Same thing for Mad About You, same channel. Early episode, 17:30, has plot summary, 02:00 doesn`t.

cwaring

08-29-2002, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Toothy
Is it?? Did a search but found nothing. My bad.

Well, I guess so. If there had been a programme other than the one you were expecting, it could have been a schedule/listing error but as your box didn't actually record a programme (just 20 mins of a black screen or something I assume) then it's either your Digibox or your Tivo.

EG. I record "Charmed" on LivingTV and recently, my Cable STB has occasionally failed to 'lock in' on the channel so I get one hour of a black screen instead of 'three sexy witches'. I am NOT amused when that happens ;)

ArwelP

08-30-2002, 09:41 AM

Postcode: CW2
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 65
Programme Name: Origins
Time/Date Of Airing: Mon 2/9 and 9/9 at 2100

Problem: Both weeks are showing the same programme details for "Ice World", hence the second week won't be recorded. This seems unlikely
:rolleyes:

GMC

08-30-2002, 12:03 PM

Saturday 31 August
Sky One - 23:00
Law and Order

The Tivo guide is not showing that Law and Order is on at this time although it does have details of the episode for the following week.

GMC

08-30-2002, 12:06 PM

Monday 2nd September 21.00
BBC 1

Tuesday 3rd September 21.00
BBC 1

Tivo seems to be regarding the episode on 3rd September as a repeat of the one on 2nd September instead of part two or a two part story.

(At least that seems to be what is happening as my SP only picked up one of the episodes)

Toothy

08-30-2002, 03:57 PM

Postcode: DG1
Provider: Sky Digital (Scotland Setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date Of Airing: Fri 30/8 19:30

Problem: Wrong episode listed in plot summary. Listed as Cape Feare...dunno what episode it was.

Getting *really* fed up of all the errors.:( :mad:

Toothy

08-30-2002, 04:16 PM

Postcode: DG1
Provider: Sky Digital (Scotland Setup)
Channel Name: TCMUK
Channel Number: 327
Programme Name: Mad Max
Time/Date Of Airing: Fri 30/8 21:00

Problem: Isn`t Mad Max, but Elvis On Tour.

Not amused.

cwaring

08-30-2002, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by GMC
Monday 2nd September 21.00
BBC 1

Tuesday 3rd September 21.00
BBC 1

Tivo seems to be regarding the episode on 3rd September as a repeat of the one on 2nd September instead of part two or a two part story.

(At least that seems to be what is happening as my SP only picked up one of the episodes)

Same here!

- Postcode WF1
- Service Provider TW AD
- Channel Name BBC1
- Channel Number RF??/CAB101
- Programme Name "Waking The Dead"
- Time/Date of airing Mon 2 & Tues 3 Sept, 2002
- Problem encountered
This is a series of 3, 2-part thrillers. I have checked all the extra programme information and ALL the extra data fields (ObjID, TMSID, etc) are exactly the same for both episodes, with ISEPISODE = TRUE also for both. This needs fixing ASAP!

Will call Tivo CS in the morning.

cwaring

08-31-2002, 06:41 AM

Already reported to Tivo CS!
FYI Only

- Postcode WF1
- Service Provider TWAD
- Channel Name Sky One
- Channel Number 120
- Programme Name "Stargate SG1"
- Time/Date of airing 18/09/2002
- Problem encountered
This programme will not be picked up by a "FR Only" SP due to the OAD being the US OAD and not the UK OAD.

richw

08-31-2002, 07:45 AM

Postcode - BA2
Provider - Sky Digital
Channel - 105 C5
Program - Law & Order

Tivo is under the misguided impression that tonights episode shown at 22:20 was also shown this morning at 10:20 when in fact it was Hercules: The Legendary Journeys

richw

08-31-2002, 07:51 AM

Postcode - BA2
Provider - Sky Digital
Channel - 106 Sky One

Schedules for tonight are borken.

What Tivo thinks:

22:00 Models Behaving Badly
23:00 Is Harry on the Boat
00:00 Kirsty's Home Videos
01:00 Millennium

What is really on:

22:00 Models Behaving Badly
23:00 Law and Order
00:00 Is Harry on the Boat
01:00 Millennium

I think TiVo are attempting to stop me watching any episodes of Law & Order this weekend.

cwaring

08-31-2002, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by richw
Schedules for tonight are borken.

Same happened before last weekend but I managed to get them updated in time. I'm just trying a forced daily call to see if the schedule has been updated since 1am this morning but I doubt it :)

DazBarber

09-01-2002, 06:11 AM

Postcode: RM17
Provider: Aerial/Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC1/BBC Choice
Channel Number: 26/160
Programme Name: EastEnders
Time/Date of airing: Mon 9th - Fri 13th Sept
Problem: This has broken YET AGAIN! The 10pm repeat on BBC Choice is the same programme as the 7:30/8pm showing on BBC1 yet they are both going to record! This has been reported and fixed more times than I've met Michael Parkinson! Anyway, it's broken again. Strangely the BBC Choice repeat has a remarkably unhelpful programme description!

cwaring

09-01-2002, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by cwaring
Same happened before last weekend but I managed to get them updated in time. I'm just trying a forced daily call to see if the schedule has been updated since 1am this morning but I doubt it :)

Looks like this has been fixed. Thanks!

groovyclam

09-02-2002, 08:40 AM

Postcode: CW8
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: Queer as Folk
Time/Date of airing: Sunday 8th Sept

This episode ( a new one ) is not recording because TiVo thinks it has another showing of it available when there isn't.

The correct schedule pattern for "Queer as Folk" on BBC Choice is a new episode is shown late Sunday night and repeated 6 days later on the following Saturday.

groovyclam

09-02-2002, 08:43 AM

Postcode: CW8
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: That Gay Show
Time/Date of airing: Sunday 8th Sept - onwards

Same episodes are being recorded - please set correct season episode markers.

The correct schedule for "That Gay Show" on BBC Choice is a new episode is shown late Sunday night/early Monday morning and any other showings during the week are repeats of that episode.

groovyclam

09-02-2002, 08:47 AM

Postcode: CW8
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: FilmFour World
Channel Number: 325
Programme Name: All
Time/Date of airing: now - onwards

Only generic listings are showing.

groovyclam

09-02-2002, 08:49 AM

Postcode: CW8
Service Provider: Sky Digital ( England Setup )
Channel Name: BBC Radio 4
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: Letter From America
Time/Date of airing: Every Fri/Sat/Sun

The Saturday and Sunday editions of this programme are actually repeats of the Friday edition.

The Friday edition is always the new episode for the week.

TiVo thinks each episode is a new one.

manolan

09-02-2002, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by cwaring

Same here!

- Postcode WF1
- Service Provider TW AD
- Channel Name BBC1
- Channel Number RF??/CAB101
- Programme Name "Waking The Dead"
- Time/Date of airing Mon 2 & Tues 3 Sept, 2002
- Problem encountered
This is a series of 3, 2-part thrillers. I have checked all the extra programme information and ALL the extra data fields (ObjID, TMSID, etc) are exactly the same for both episodes, with ISEPISODE = TRUE also for both. This needs fixing ASAP!

Will call Tivo CS in the morning.

This does not appear to have been corrected yet.

cwaring

09-02-2002, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by manolan
This does not appear to have been corrected yet.

To be fair, I didn't think it would be. I called them on Saturday, so it'll be only today that the wheels are set in motion to do whatever they do to get the listings corrected. Should be OK for next week though! I hope :)

bobnick

09-02-2002, 09:22 AM

And today is a bank holiday in the US :(

kitschcamp

09-02-2002, 11:42 AM

- DE74
- ntl:
- UK Style and UKStyle + 1
- 407 & 810
- Columbia Road Gardens
- Daily from 2nd September - 20th September, 22:30 UKStyle till 13/9, then 13:30 and 14:30 on UKStyle and UKStyle + 1

All episodes are being recorded, as they all have an identical TMSId number (SH5265600000) and IsEP marked as false.

The episode changes daily, and from 14/9 the 13:30 UKStyle and 14:30 UKStyle + 1 showings are timeshifted episodes of the same show, but with the current guide data all episodes are recorded.

Much as I like Sven, I don't need both episodes each day.

bobnick

09-03-2002, 06:09 AM

Theres a new series of 'The Frank Skinner Show' on ITV1, but it has wrong OADs - out by a couple of months, bizzarely.

dallardice

09-03-2002, 07:53 AM

ITV1 (and ITV2, probably) through Sky Digital in N1.
From Saturday 7th September
"Popstars"

TiVo has "The Rivals" as Episode Name. The full name for the series is actually "Popstars: The Rivals". A SP on ITV1 will only pick up the very first show of the series.

Scheduling appears to be as follows:

Main show (60 mins) has first broadcast Sat 1915 ITV1,
repeated lunchtime Sunday ITV2

Follow-up show (25 mins) first broadcast Mon 1705 ITV1

ITV2 has separate programming called "Popstars: The Rivals Extra", but it's not yet clear (to me at least) what's a first broadcast and what's a repeat.

fister

09-03-2002, 11:22 AM

Episode Title : Gardeners World
Episode Description After a long summer break, Alan Titchmarsh and the team are back to offer seasonal gardening advice. Plus, Sarah Raven is in her garden in Kent to offer vegetable growing tips. W/S.
Episode Number
Duration 0:30
Original Air Date 5/16/1997
Genres Home and Garden, Magazine
Type Series
Channel 102 BBC2NID
Showing Date 9/6 8:30 pm

Original Air Date is VERY Wrong !!

Ken Jude

09-03-2002, 02:04 PM

Apologies for not posting this earlier but I had to go out early this morning after I discovered this.

The episode descriptions for the second part of both this week's and next week's "Waking The Dead" stories on BBC1 (via Sky) are identical to part 1 and are not picked up by your season passes. I recall this was also a problem with this show for the last series.

sxb

09-03-2002, 04:00 PM

Postcode: HA4
Service Provider: Analogue terrestrial
Channel Name: BBC1LON
Programme Name: Johnny Vaughan Tonight
Time/Date of airing: Various from 2nd Sept

Tivo has 2 different prog. name entries for this programme. Some are named Johnny Vaughan and others (correctly) as Johnny Vaughan Tonight (so a single SP doesn't catch all shows).

craigw

09-03-2002, 04:20 PM

Postcode: RH4
Provider: Sky Digital (England)
Channel Name: UK Gold
Channel Number: 109
Programme Name: EastEnders
Time/Date of airing: Mon 2th - Fri 6th Sept

There is no description for each episode, consequently, the daytime repeats are also in the To Do.

Has been fixed for the following week however.

cwaring

09-03-2002, 05:35 PM

FYI, this has already been discussed in the relevant "Programme Listings" thread.

gazter

09-03-2002, 07:30 PM

Just a warning that the excellent Six feet Under is changing from Ch4 to E4 next week with the new series.

My season pass did not pick up the change, so I ahd to modify it for E4....

Just a warning!!

Gaz

Tim Browse

09-03-2002, 10:10 PM

Well, I got this problem too - here's my #1 feature request for Tivo software:

Have a switch to turn this bloody feature off! It's so annoying.

Even if the listings were correct, if I've just watched part 1 and the 2nd and final part is on the following evening, or repeated 4 weeks later, guess which showing I might want to see?

Tim

ozsat

09-03-2002, 11:05 PM

Some "programme warning" threads merged.

Please can all posters keep there reports of programme schedule errors to this thread?

Otherwise the forum could be swamped ;)

Dunkwho

09-04-2002, 04:50 AM

Postcode: LU6
Provider: DTT
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 2
Programme Name: Rick Stein's Food Heros
Time/Date of airing: Thurs 5th, 12th Sept, 20.00

The description for the episode on the 12th sept is the same as that on the 5th, the 12th isn't currently scheduled to record in my SP presumably as it's considered a repeat within 28 days. The episode on the 12th is infact completely different, should have a different description, and should indeed be recorded as a new episode.

kitschcamp

09-04-2002, 05:36 AM

- DE74
- ntl:
- BBC1EM and BBC1M
- 101
- 9/11
- September 11th 20:30 and 22:35
- The descriptions describe them as (1/2) and (2/2) which is correct, but they are functionally down as two totally separate series/programs in, for example, search by name etc.

The 20:30 showing has a TMSID of SH4943610000 and the 22:35 as SH5331190000.

The effect is you can't set a season pass to record the two parts.

alanjrobertson

09-04-2002, 02:10 PM

Postcode: EH12
Provider: Freeview/DTT
Channel Name: BBC1 Scotland
Channel Number: 1 (& local analogue terrestrial)
Programme Name: Waking The Dead
Time/Date of airing: Mon 9th & Tue 10th Sept

Programme descriptions are identical (as was the case for the episodes on 2nd & 3rd Sept.), therefore season pass only records 1 of 2 in each case.

Richardr

09-04-2002, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by bobnick
There is also another series running in conjunction with the show called I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here Now! (see the difference?) on ITV2 on some days. This series has a different presenter, is only 30 minutes long and is shown only once. Tivo has these showings down as being part of the main series, wheres they are actually seperate - like Pop Idol, and Pop Idol Extra.This has been partially corrected for Thursday and Friday.

This now shows as a separate series under its correct title.

However, TIVO has Friday (21:30) as a repeat of Thursday (21:00) , and hence manual intervention is required to record both.

mrtickle

09-05-2002, 01:25 PM

Only 2 this time as I know there is a backlog ;)

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Radio 3
Channel Number: 853
Programme Name: BBC Proms 2002
Time/Date of airing: various

This can now be set as a season pass, but they are (almost) all set as the same episode so most of them will not get recorded.

Evening broadcasts are always new, afternoon broadcasts (14:00) are repeats of older (not necessarily the previous day) broadcasts.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The X-Files

[I thought this had been fixed but it still isn't for me. My last download was at 00:41 BST today (5th Sep).]

Problem 1:
The re-run of "Scary Monsters" on Mon 9th Sep has a different TmsID to its first showing on Thurs 5th Sep, causing both showings to be scheduled for recording. 28 day rule fails.

Time/Date of airing: Thursday 5th Sep 21:00 } should both be EP0809550206
Time/Date of re-run: Monday 9th Sep 22:00 }

Problem 2:
All the episode numbers in the guide are the same, either "8" or "9" - they are being truncated/corrupted somewhere? This affected the BBC data too.

Toothy

09-05-2002, 02:12 PM

Postcode: DG1
Provider: Sky Digital (Scotland Setup)
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Roseanne
Time/Date Of Airing: Thu 5/9 18:30

Problem: Wrong plot summary. Lists yesterdays episode

cwaring

09-05-2002, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by cwaring
Already reported to Tivo CS!
FYI Only

- Postcode WF1
- Service Provider TWAD
- Channel Name Sky One
- Channel Number 120
- Programme Name "Stargate SG1"
- Time/Date of airing 18/09/2002
- Problem encountered
This programme will not be picked up by a "FR Only" SP due to the OAD being the US OAD and not the UK OAD. Repeat also affected.

Still not fixed!! Originally reported on 31st August. Also just re-reported to Tivo CS.

Sorry to shout but it's my favourite show :D

mrtickle

09-05-2002, 05:27 PM

It is fixed - nothing to fix. The Guide Data is correct. The episodes on 18th Sep are old repeats from season 5 (the last two episodes). They are not First Runs.

The first episode of season 6 is "Redemption" on Wed 25th Sep.

Please check your episode guides for these things before reporting - how can you say it's your favourite programme and not know the episodes! :rolleyes:

cwaring

09-05-2002, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by mrtickle
It is fixed - nothing to fix. The Guide Data is correct. The episodes on 18th Sep are old repeats from season 5 (the last two episodes). They are not First Runs.

The first episode of season 6 is "Redemption" on Wed 25th Sep.

Please check your episode guides for these things before reporting - how can you say it's your favourite programme and not know the episodes! :rolleyes:

Sincere apologies. You are, of course, quite correct. Not sure why I had that in mind as the first ep of S6. probably the anticipation playing with my feelings :) I feel suitably stupid :( However, we'll see tomorrow whether they do get it right :D

AENG

09-06-2002, 04:37 AM

After a long period during which there have been no detectable errors affecting progs/channels I watch, someone at Tribune must have gone on holiday, or something. Two examples:

SG17
Terrestrial digital
Channel 5
Ch 5
Law & Order, "Blood"
10:20 a.m. 31 Aug
Although it offered this in "Now Playing", TiVo had recorded "Hercules", which is what RT billed as being on at that time.

SG17
Aerial
BBC2
Ch27
Rick Stein's Food Heroes
8:00 p.m. 12 September
Episode description Isle of Wight is wrong, this is duplicated from 5 Sep.

Episode descriptions of some other shows also seem to have got less reliable, too.

ozsat

09-06-2002, 05:26 AM

UEFA Champions' League football will be shown live across ITV1, ITV2 and ITN News Channel this season.

This means that some proper scheduling is required on 'ITN' - but also a note to digital terrestrial viewers that 'ITN' is currently not available in the evenings when the football will be shown.

Ian_m

09-06-2002, 05:37 AM

SG50
Aerial
CH4

Ally McBeal

Not possible to set a season pass to record the latest series on Wednesday evening.

First run gets nothing.

First run and repeats gets Wednesday evening as well as all the repeats of previous episodes shown during the day.

SO50
Aerial
BBC2

On foot in the past.

Only gets one episode per week/fortnight as TiVo thinks all the other episodes are repeats and doesn't record under the 28 day rule.

bobnick

09-06-2002, 08:25 AM

I've posted in another thread about this, but am posting here to give forum readers a heads-up.
Tivo has changed the name of Popstars to Popstars: The Rivals, which is correct - but have changed the series ID. Anyone who had SPs, or had set up one-off recordings under the old title should check their to do list - it ain't going to record it for you.

mrtickle

09-06-2002, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by cwaring

Sincere apologies. You are, of course, quite correct. Not sure why I had that in mind as the first ep of S6. probably the anticipation playing with my feelings :) I feel suitably stupid :( However, we'll see tomorrow whether they do get it right :D

Well if they change it you can be the one to phone up again and get them to put it back ;) :D

mrtickle

09-06-2002, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Ian_m
SG50
Aerial
CH4

Ally McBeal

Not possible to set a season pass to record the latest series on Wednesday evening.

First run gets nothing.

First run and repeats gets Wednesday evening as well as all the repeats of previous episodes shown during the day.

This is a bigger problem than just Ally McBeal, it's a design prob :(. The OADs in the database are set to what were the date of the UK First Runs - the E4 dates. A solution to please everyone is therefore impossible:

1. If it is left as it is, people who only have terrestrial TV don't have working "First Runs" for any programmes that were first shown on pay-TV channels.

2. The only way to get "First Run on C4" to work would be for Tribune to go through the data all over again and put the new C4 dates in (and lose the E4 dates forever). People who had watched it on E4 and had SPs on both E4 and C4 would suddenly find themselves getting these episodes all over again. Plus it is asking Tribune to effectively re-do the data every time a programme is first shown on a channel. (Originally they didn't re-do it every time it was first shown in a country - we had the US dates! The UK dates are actually done by TiVo I believe after they get the data from Tribune so this add another layer of complexity.) I personally think that to re-change the OADs every time may be asking too much :(

OZSAT EDIT IN RED!
The "how to handle OADs" debate has been moved to OAD discussion (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75068). Please continue OAD discussion there and listing errors here.

I hope 'mrtickle' doesn't mind me edit his post?

(not at all :) I probably added this post just too late otherwise I'd've put it in the new thread)

09-08-2002, 03:23 AM

Provider: Sky
Channel: 148/149 UKStyle/UKStyle+1
Programme: House Doctor

All episodes have no title/description - also TiVo is recording _every_ showing.

09-08-2002, 03:26 AM

Provider: Sky
Channel: 148 UKStyle
Programme: Fab Pads

All episodes have no title/description - TiVo is recording _every_ showing.

09-08-2002, 03:32 AM

Provider: Sky
Channel: 205 E4
Programme: As If

Most of the problems with incorrect OADs/no decriptions seem to have been corrected, but a few episodes look to still have flags/dates incorrectly set:

Wed 18/9 3:20 pm is listed as OAD 6/3/2002
Thu 19/9 3:20 pm is listed as OAD 6/3/2002
Fri 20/9 3:20 pm is listed as OAD 6/3/2002

jborer

09-09-2002, 03:54 AM

Provider: Sky
Channel: 205 E4
Programme: Model Behaviour

Sunday first episode (2pm) was not recorded. The reason was because another showing was allegedly availble. Not to happy about that. The 2.30pm show was recorded. Saturdays shows recorded OK.

deshepherd

09-09-2002, 05:03 AM

Platform: Telewest Active Digital
Postcode: BS6
Program: Waking the dead
Channel: BBC1 (? or is it BBC2?)
Time: Monday and Tuesday evenings at present

These are 2 part programs with one shown on Monday and the 2nd part on the following day. However, listings show them as being repeats of the same program.

I think the same happened when they were first broadcast and we missed the conclusion of at least one of the stories becuase of this :-(

DazBarber

09-09-2002, 06:28 AM

Once again, the EastEnders BBCone/BBC Choice problem has returned. The BBCOne details seem to be correct but all the 10pm repeats on BBC Choice seem to have details from earlier in the year.

The 28 day rule is not picking them up and both episodes are set to record.

Removing the extra recordings from the ToDo list is becoming a regular weekly task for me! :(

Daz

mrtickle

09-09-2002, 07:01 AM

It was fixed from 12th August - sorry to hear it has slipped back again so soon :(

groovyclam

09-09-2002, 08:47 AM

Postcode: CW8
Service Provider: SkyDigital (England Setup)
Channel Name: FilmFour World
Channel Number: 325
Programme Name: All
Date/Time: Now and onwards

Only generic listings of repeated "Movie" are showing

Please fill in the actual movie details.

kitschcamp

09-09-2002, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by groovyclam

Channel Name: FilmFour World
Channel Number: 325
Programme Name: All
Date/Time: Now and onwards

Only generic listings of repeated "Movie" are showing

Please fill in the actual movie details.

Same here, DE74, ntl: digital.

Seems to becoming quite a regular feast :(

groovyclam

09-09-2002, 10:53 PM

Same here, DE74, ntl: digital.
Seems to becoming quite a regular feast

This is the third time I've reported this starting back in August but nothing has got done about it.

Wakey, wakey Tribune!

DazBarber

09-10-2002, 05:29 AM

Channel Name: ITV1
Channel Number: 103
Programme Name: Tarrant on TV
Date: 19th Sept 22:30

This edition has the same details as the previous week's show and is therefore prevented from recording by the 28 day rule when it should in fact be marked as a new edition.

cwaring

09-10-2002, 06:40 AM

Telewest, UK Gold (incl UKG2 & +1)
"Neighbours" and "Eastenders"
Various Times

The (YEAR) for both the above programme is NOT 2002 as is currently shown. Don't know what year it should be as I don't know where each programme is up to!

mrtickle

09-10-2002, 07:39 AM

But they are "First Runs" on UK Gold, aren't they. Some people want the data to be like that. See the problem?

cwaring

09-10-2002, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by mrtickle
But they are "First Runs" on UK Gold, aren't they. Some people want the data to be like that. See the problem?

Problem? What problem? I wasn't aware of any problems! I wish people would tell when problems occur so I know to complain! :D :rolleyes: :p

dmchapman

09-10-2002, 12:14 PM

Postcode: CT19
Service Provider: SkyDigital
Channel Name: CBeebies
Channel Number: 622
Programme Name: Come Outside
Date/Time: Everyday

Standard CBeebies problem (seems fixed for Tweenies and bob the builder now). Each episode of "Come Outside" is repeated 3 times a day yet a season pass records every episode (ie, it gets all of the repeats :( )

aerialplug

09-11-2002, 04:38 AM

Postcode: ME6
Service Provider: SkyDigital
Channel Name: BBC Radio 4
Programme Name: Book of the week
Date/Time: Mon - Fri @ 9:45 & repeated at 0:30 the following day

This season pass has worked well since BBC R4 has had data - until this week. Now only the Monday programme is being recorded - seems like it's now falling foul of the 28 day rule.

manolan

09-11-2002, 02:18 PM

Waking the Dead still not fixed. I knew it wouldn't be fixed for last week as we only reported it on Sunday/Monday. I suspected it wouldn't be fixed for this week (and it wasn't), but now I see from my To Do list that it isn't fixed for next week.

Jim, if you read this, please could you fix this programme. Monday and Tuesdays are parts 1 & 2 of two parters, not repeats.

Jim99

09-11-2002, 02:47 PM

I don't usually post answers to individual errors but let me assure you this one HAS been fixed. It will likely be with you after tomorrow's update.

The editorial staff has been informed about the airing pattern of this programme and we should be set in the future.

manolan

09-12-2002, 07:53 AM

Jim, many thanks for the reply.

ozsat

09-12-2002, 09:37 AM

FOOTBALL ALERT

ITN News Channel is showing live UEFA Champions' League on Wednesday evenings - this is reflected in the TiVo schedules for 'ITN'.

The bad news is that it is unlikely to be shown on Digital Satellite or Digital Terrestrial TV.

DTT viewers should now have a new ITN channel for the correct hours.

D-Sat viewer currently get the schedule that includes the football - so don't expect it to record if you see it in the schedule.

At it stands, only Digital Cable viewers will definitely get it. Some analogue cable networks take the pictures from Digital Satellite - and so these may also miss out!

sanderton

09-12-2002, 10:35 AM

Are you sure ozat. this from the ITV Web site:

Live coverage

On Wednesday September 18, ITV2 will screen live coverage of Manchester United v Maccabi Haifa with Jim Rosenthal hosting the action from Old Trafford, while the ITN News Channel will carry live coverage of Dynamo v Newcastle United fronted by Angus Scott.

ITV1's Wednesday evening highlights programme will be presented by Gabby Logan throughout the season.

ITV2 and the ITN News Channel are available on digital terrestrial, digital satellite and cable services

09-12-2002, 01:26 PM

Provider: Sky
Channel: 101 BBC1
Programme: Blue Peter

Problem: TiVo is recording the morning repeat a well as the first broadcast.

ozsat

09-12-2002, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by sanderton
Are you sure ozat. this from the ITV Web site:

Live coverage

On Wednesday September 18, ITV2 will screen live coverage of Manchester United v Maccabi Haifa with Jim Rosenthal hosting the action from Old Trafford, while the ITN News Channel will carry live coverage of Dynamo v Newcastle United fronted by Angus Scott.

ITV1's Wednesday evening highlights programme will be presented by Gabby Logan throughout the season.

ITV2 and the ITN News Channel are available on digital terrestrial, digital satellite and cable services

How many digital terrestrial viewers are watching ITN News Channel on their DTT box this evening?

Its a free-to-air issue - ITN New Channel on satellite is free-to-air and viewable across the whole of Europe.

It will all change soon when it becomes ITV News and will then no doubt encrypt.

btw: ITV Sport website said (until today) that ITV2 was free-to-air on digital satellite - in fact it is only available by subscription.

Also worth a look are the on-screens ads which say "ITN News Channel (cable only)"

And they is no mention of the football in the Sky EPG - although that is not always correct.

sjp

09-12-2002, 05:43 PM

Sky Digital SN3

Sky data shows the (I think correct) order to Millenium, JAG and Third Watch in the wee small hours. Last night (Wed 11th / Thu 12th) Tivo had the order as Millenium, Third Watch and JAG meaning my Third Watch recording was full of folks in crisp white shirts and not the NY cops'n'paramedics'n'firefighters I wanted to see.

stuart

cwaring

09-12-2002, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by sjp
Sky Digital SN3

Sky data shows the (I think correct) order to Millenium, JAG and Third Watch in the wee small hours. Last night (Wed 11th / Thu 12th) Tivo had the order as Millenium, Third Watch and JAG meaning my Third Watch recording was full of folks in crisp white shirts and not the NY cops'n'paramedics'n'firefighters I wanted to see.

stuart

Another last-minute change by Sky. I guess it should be corrected soon!

NOTE: SAME AGAIN TONIGHT!!!!

Taken from the Radio Times Schedule Update webclub:
http://www.radiotimes.beeb.com/content/schedule_updates/

Sky 1 late-night schedule changes
1:50am JAG - was 2:40am
2:40am Third Watch - was 1:50am
3:30am Brookside - as billed

sjp

09-12-2002, 08:41 PM

thanks carl. I had spotted tonights mix up and recorded JAG as well.

stuart

09-13-2002, 10:34 AM

Provider: Sky
Channel: 101 BBC1
Programme: Top of the Pops
Time: Sun 15/9 1:55 am

Problem: It's broken again ! How many times do I have to report this?!

The Sunday morning programme is a repeat of the Friday evening showing. Why does TiVo think this is a new programme to record?

bobnick

09-13-2002, 01:02 PM

CD:UK is always broken too; maybe Tivo isn't too happy with the state of the UK charts?

AENG

09-14-2002, 05:05 AM

SG17
Aerial
BBC2E
Ch 27
"Have I Got Old News for You"
10.00 p.m. 13 Sep
TiVo recorded this but labelled it with next week's details. So next week it'll balk under the 28-day rule, I suppose.

The apparent return recently of incorrect (often duplicated) episode descriptions has also been hitting other series, e.g. BBC2's "The 48 Preludes and Fugues". Disappointing.

mrtickle

09-14-2002, 05:25 AM

TiVo recorded this but labelled it with next week's details. So next week it'll balk under the 28-day rule, I suppose.

It isn't set as Episodes so the 28-day rule is turned off for this programme. It will record next week - check your Recording History to be sure.

The generic description used contains details specific to one episode though, which is wrong.

DazBarber

09-14-2002, 07:34 AM

Erm, the BBC1/BBC Choice EastEnders problem has reared its ugly head YET AGAIN for the week 23rd-27th September.

I've just done my regular weekly clear-out of the ToDo list.

Here's hoping I don't have to do it again next week!!!

Daz

bradleyem

09-14-2002, 02:39 PM

Platform: Sky Digital
Postcode: E7
Program: Dinotopia
Channel: Sky One
Time: Sunday evening, repeated Saturday evening

My TiVo recorded tonights repeat, but has it listed as a new episode (the guide data is wrong). It thinks that Saturdays ep is new, and Sunday is the repeat. IT's the other way around.

actually, to confuse matters, the Saturday repeat appeared to have a "making of" attached to the end, to pad out the 1hr50 - 2hr slot, so perhaps it should record both?

Anyway, the TiVo is recording the Saturday repeat as the first run, and ignoring the Sunday first showing as it thinks it's a repeat.

Clear?

Cool
Brad

09-15-2002, 02:53 AM

Provider: Sky
Channel: BBC Choice
Programme: That Gay Show

Problem: This is another one where TiVo is recording every showing - every listing has the same description and OAD at the moment.

ALanJay

09-15-2002, 03:31 AM

Sky Digital
Sky One
Stargate SG-1
Wednesday 25th Septermber 2002
8pm and 9pm

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36781

The above thread reports that "Stargate season 6 kicks off on sky one Wednesday 25th. with a 2 hour episode titled "Redemption""

When I looked at TiVo ToDo list only one of the wto episodes was set to record (I assume they have the same programme id).

mrtickle

09-15-2002, 06:24 AM

Nope they have different TmsIDs and epsiode numbers (use backdoors to check). The guide data is perfect! Check your recording history...

bobnick

09-15-2002, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by Jim99
I don't usually post answers to individual errors but let me assure you this one HAS been fixed. It will likely be with you after tomorrow's update.

The editorial staff has been informed about the airing pattern of this programme and we should be set in the future.

hmmm.... My tivo doesn't believe you Jim, and it's been having successful calls each day. I've just given up on the whole series now - it's too much hard work!

When I was checking the problem out, I've noticed a couple of other errors - Driven (Ch 4) has the wrong OAD, as does Never Mind The Buzzcocks (BBC 2).

The main problem I saw was Channel 5's new flagship programme: 'Live With... Chris Moyles'. Tivo has no episode information, and is going to record every repeat. Great. Channel 5 is plugging the hell out of this show - give them a quick call, and they'll tell you everything you need to know.

I'm getting really cheesed off with all these problems. I know that errors will happen, it's just that I've reported quite a few errors on this thread, and via Tivo CS (the official way to report them). The CS rep assures me that they'll be passed on straight away, but the same problems reoccur.
As a result, I've given up calling Tivo each week - it was costing me time and money, for no result. Is it worth us even posting errors in this thread?

bradleyem

09-15-2002, 03:54 PM

re: Waking the Dead

Next Week's seems to be OK - recording both. This week's (tomorrow) seems to be still busted though.

BobBlueUK

09-15-2002, 05:06 PM

Platform: Sky Digital
Postcode: E1
Program: Click Online
Channel: 507, BBC News 24
Date/Time: multiple instances

Repeats being displayed as new episodes when repeated the same day as the original showing... hence duplicates are being recorded.

cwaring

09-15-2002, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by BobBlueUK
Platform: Sky Digital
Postcode: E1
Program: Click Online
Channel: 507, BBC News 24
Date/Time: multiple instances

Repeats being displayed as new episodes when repeated the same day as the original showing... hence duplicates are being recorded.

I've reported this one in the past. It's in here somewhere if you look :)

njh

09-16-2002, 03:22 PM

Postcode: OX4
Service Provider: Digital Terrestrial
Channel Name: Channel 5
Channel Number: 5
Programme Name: Dan Dare
Time/Date: Weekly, Sat 08:55

Problem:

The programme is a weekly episodic serial, with each story taking two weeks to tell. This week (Sat 14th September) for example we had part one of a story called "The Outpost", and part two of that story will air on Sat 21st.

The two parts of each adventure seem to always get the same episode ID, with identical descriptions. So a season pass for the series only ever automatically picks up the first week of a story - on alternate weeks, when part two of a story due to be shown, the transmission it is mistakenly excluded from the To Do list by the "28 day" rule.

SaintM

09-16-2002, 04:57 PM

BobBlueUK

09-16-2002, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by cwaring
I've reported this one in the past. It's in here somewhere if you look :) Certainly seems to need reporting again... wonder if they'll take the hint this time around? :rolleyes:

mrtickle

09-16-2002, 06:42 PM

(wearing my diplomatic hat!)

From what Jim has posted here, reporting Click Online again won't help. I've reported it a "few" times myself :D .

I'm guessing here but there is a finite number of staff handling the UK data, but a huge number of programmes. So for the UK-only programmes that aren't already in Tribune's database with nice correct IDs etc, there is a limited number of programmes which can get the "manual" treatment - ie dates as episode titles and duplicates marked, like with Big Brother/Liquid News etc.

We all have our own favourite programmes that we'd like to get this extra attention each week but they can't do them all :(. (Yet!)

bobnick

09-16-2002, 07:09 PM

Maybe getting the top 10 programmes on the 5 main terrestial channels right would be a reasonable expectation

cwaring

09-16-2002, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by SaintM
Postcode: SO23
Service: FTA Digital
Channel: ITV2
Channel Number: 6
Programme Name: Spider-Man
Time/Date: Weekdays 8am

I have a season pass for this, and of the two episodes it has recorded neither of them have been Spider-man and have in fact been Pokemon.

I'm guessing that that's a 'late programme change' problem, not a Tivo Listings one! BICBW :)

cwaring

09-16-2002, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by BobBlueUK
Certainly seems to need reporting again... wonder if they'll take the hint this time around? :rolleyes:

Well, I wasn't going to mention it :p

Besides, I've noticed that it's not always on a the scheduled times anyway :rolleyes:. I think I may do a 'repeated manual recording' for the first showing (0430 Sat).

BobBlueUK

09-17-2002, 07:47 AM

Hopefully it'll get picked up on in this thread - if the situation hasn't improved in a week or two I'll give TiVo CS a call...

Failing that I may end up going down the manual recording route as you suggest! Not ideal but it'll do... :)

09-17-2002, 03:00 PM

Provider: Sky
Channel: BBC2
Programme: Blue Peter

Problem: The early morning repeats (on BBC2) of the original BBC1 programmes all have their OADs set as 7/3/2002 so TiVo is recording all the BBC2 repeats. (The BBC1 OADs look correct.)

richngill

09-19-2002, 09:49 AM

Postcode: SL1
Service: Telewest Analogue
Channel: LivingTV (Reduced)
Channel Number: 27
Programme Name: The Cosby Show
Time/Date: Weekdays 3:30pm

Series 4 is being shown in order. None of the episodes so far have had the correct titles/descriptions. Some are now being assigned repeat descriptions so TiVo is not recording them (28 day rule) This is the correct order for the remainder of series 4 with air dates

19/9 Bookworm
20/9 Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star
23/9 The Visit
24/9 The Drum Major
25/9 Waterworks
26/9 Once Upon a Time
27/9 Petanque
30/9 Trust Me
1/10 Home for the Weekend
2/10 The Prom
3/10 Gone Fishin'

SimonG

09-20-2002, 09:25 AM

Postcode: RH10
Service: Sky Digital (FTA/FTV)
Channel: ChartShowTV
Channel Number: 458
Programme Name: All
Time/Date: All

New FTA channel listings are given here:

http://www.chartshow.tv/schedule.htm

Postcode: RH10
Service: Sky Digital (FTA/FTV)
Channel: IdealWorld
Channel Number: 635
Programme Name: All
Time/Date: All

gladgd

09-21-2002, 06:42 AM

CO7
Sky Digital
Channel 4
104
Enterprise
Sundays 6:05pm

Setting season pass to 'first run only' results in no episodes being recorded. Each episode is new on this channel at this time.

Granada Men and Motors
139
MCN
Fridays 6pm

Setting season pass to 'first run only' results in all repeats being scheduled for recording too. The show is first shown at the above day/time, then repeated every other day at varying time slots.

DazBarber

09-21-2002, 08:08 AM

Postcode: RM17
Service: Aerial/Sky Digital
Channel: BBCOne / BBC Choice
Channel Number: 26 / 160
Programme Name: EastEnders
Time/Date: 7:30 / 10:00

Yes, you guessed it, I've just had to do my weekly editing of EastEnders in the ToDo list! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..............

I also spotted this one:

Postcode: RM17
Service: Aerial
Channel: BBCOne
Channel Number: 26
Programme Name: Casualty
Time/Date: 8:10 September 28th

This episode is dated 1991 instead of 2002 (I suspect somebody's hands were one key too far to the left on a keyboard) and therefore isn't picked up by a 'first showing' season pass.

sanderton

09-21-2002, 12:06 PM

Postcode: BA4
Service: Sky Digital
Channel: Extreme
Channel Number: 422
Programme Name: Board Stories
Time/Date: Various

Categorised as "Public Affairs", which is odd as it's about surfing...

sanderton

09-22-2002, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by gladgd
Enterprise
Sundays 6:05pm

Setting season pass to 'first run only' results in no episodes being recorded. Each episode is new on this channel at this time.

This is "correct" behaviour - First Run at present refers to first UK broadcast, and Enterprise has been shown already on Sky One. See other threads galore to complain about it!

sanderton

09-22-2002, 06:11 PM

Postcode: BA4
Service: Sky Digital
Channel: BBC 2/BBC Choice
Channel Number: 102
Programme Name: The Office
Time/Date: Various

The new series of The Office starts next week and there is something wrong with the guide entry. There is no date showing at all in the description, and TiVo does not recognise that the three broacasts shown (1 on BBC 2, 2 on BBC Choice) are the same episode repeated. A BBC Choice SP records both, even if a BBC 2 SP has already scheduled it, , and a Wishlist will get all 3.

cwaring

09-23-2002, 12:50 PM

Just thought it might be of interest :)

http://www.radiotimes.beeb.com/content/schedule_updates/

Radio Times has been told of some schedule changes that we thought you might like to know about.

The changes are for Monday 23 to Wednesday 25 September on various channels.

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MONDAY 23 SEPTEMBER
BBC1 evening schedule changes (includes BBC1 Wales; please see below for BBC1 Scotland and BBC1 Northern Ireland)

8:30pm Ground Force - as scheduled
9:00pm Waking the Dead - The Blind Beggar, part one (change to billed episode; part two will be shown on Tuesday 24 September)
10:00pm BBC News - as scheduled
10:35pm Panorama - the Case against Saddam
11:25pm Johnny Vaughan Tonight - was 11:15pm
11:55pm Film 2002 With Jonathan Ross - was 11:45pm
12:25am Liquid News - was 12:15am
1:00am Film: Ace High - was 12:50am
3:00am BBC News 24 - was 2:50am

One on One: Alan Whicker will no longer be showing.

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BBC1 Scotland evening schedule changes

9:00pm Waking the Dead - The Blind Beggar, part two - change to billed episode
10:35pm Panorama: the Case against Saddam - replaces Ninewells, which will now show on Tuesday 24 September
11:25pm Johnny Vaughan Tonight - was 12:15am
11:55pm Film 2002 - was 11:45pm
12:25am Liquid News - was 12:45am
1:00am Film: Ace High
3:00am BBC News 24 - was 1:20am

One on One: Alan Whicker will no longer be showing.

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BBC1 Northern Ireland evening schedule changes

9:00pm Waking the Dead - The Blind Beggar, part one (change to billed episode; part two will be shown on Tuesday 24 September)
10:35pm Panorama: the Case against Saddam
11:25pm Sky High - was 10:35pm
11:55pm Johnny Vaughan Tonight - was 11:45pm
12:25am Film 2002 - was 12:15am
1:00am Film: Ace High - was 12:50am

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TUESDAY 24 SEPTEMBER

BBC2 schedule changes

10:40am The Experimenter - as scheduled
11:00am Afoot Again in the Past - replaces Conference 2002
11:15am The Iraq Debate
1:00pm Global Warning - as scheduled
1:05pm Taxi - as scheduled
1:30pm Working Lunch - as scheduled
2:00pm Film: Invaders From Mars - postponed from Monday 23 September; replaces Conference 2002
3:20pm Yes, Minister
3:50pm BBC News

The schedule then runs as published until:

11:30pm Diners - was 11:20pm
12:00am Despatch Box
12:30am BBC Learning Zone - as scheduled

Third Rock from the Sun and 10 x 10: New Directors will no longer be showing.

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BBC1 afternoon schedule change

3:25pm CBeebies: Tweenies
3:45pm CBBC: Taz-Mania

There is no Tweenies Songtime before Tweenies. Please note that this change applies for the rest of the week.

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Channel 4 evening schedule change

7:55pm War On Iraq: Which Side Are You On? - replaces Ballykissanything

Please note that this change also applies for Wednesday 25 and Thursday 26 September.

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BBC1 Scotland only

10:35pm Ninewells - replaces The Real Victor Meldrews

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BBC2 Scotland only

10:30pm Newsnight
11:30pm Diners

There will be no Newsnight Scotland.

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WEDNESDAY 25 SEPTEMBER

BBC2 evening and late-night schedule changes

9:00pm Flesh and Blood - ten minutes shorter than billed
10:20pm Wild - Under Serengeti Stars - new programme in schedule
10:30pm Newsnight - as billed

The schedule then runs as published until:

1:00am BBC Learning Zone: A New Way of Life - replaces Auntie's Big Adventure

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DazBarber

09-23-2002, 06:19 PM

Were the last two messages a case of Deja vu or did somebody press my own personal 'replay' button? :)

(If one of those messages gets deleted this will make NO SENSE AT ALL)! ;)

Daz

mrtickle

09-23-2002, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by sanderton
Postcode: BA4
Service: Sky Digital
Channel: BBC 2/BBC Choice
Channel Number: 102
Programme Name: The Office
Time/Date: Various

The new series of The Office starts next week and there is something wrong with the guide entry. There is no date showing at all in the description, and TiVo does not recognise that the three broacasts shown (1 on BBC 2, 2 on BBC Choice) are the same episode repeated. A BBC Choice SP records both, even if a BBC 2 SP has already scheduled it, , and a Wishlist will get all 3.

I agree. I think the IsEpisode flag is wrong.

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Two and BBC Choice
Channel Number: 102 and 160
Programme Name: The Office

Time/Date of airing: Mon 30th Sep 22:00
Time/Date of airing: Thu 3rd Oct 21:30
Time/Date of airing: Fri 4th Oct 01:00

The above 3 broadcasts are all the same episode. The description is correct, but they are not set as IsEpisode so the 28-day rule isn't working.

Also the OAD is wrong - it shouldn't be 7th Aug 2002. Should be 30th Sep 2002.

Please set them as Episodes... ta.

mrtickle

09-23-2002, 06:40 PM

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: South Park

Time/Date of airing: 6th Oct 23:30 "Cartman Gets An Anal Probe"
Time/Date of airing: 7th Oct 00:00 "Weight Gain 4000"
Time/Date of airing: 7th Oct 00:30 "Volcano"

These are marked in the Guide Data as First runs, but they are not. They were last shown on Sky in the year 2000.

I fear that every single 1st season repeat is going to have the same problem when it goes through the Tribune/TiVo "UK First Run Fixer" for the first time... :( Please can this be looked at?

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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: UK Style & UK Style + 1
Channel Number: 148 & 149
Programme Name: Trading Up
Time/Date of airing: many, various

Episode details still missing for many episodes

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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: It's Your Money
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 07:45
Time/Date of re-runs: Saturdays 21:45; Sundays 06:45 and 08:45

Problem: unsure of the above airing times. I didn't get a recording of it last weekend.
The Saturday 07:45 recording had been usurped with a programme called "Gate 24".
So, I check the Sky EPG for the Sunday showings.
It said for Sunday 06:00-07:00 "includes It's Your Money", and
for Sunday 08:00-09:00 "includes Gate 24".
So I recorded the 06:45 showing, and it turned out to be Gate 24 again :( :(

Digiguide's listings for the next two weekends claim that "It's Your Money" is on:

Sat 28th Sep somewhere in the 06:00-07:00 block (I guess 06:45)
Sun 29th Sep somewhere in the 08:00-09:00 block (I guess 08:45)

Sat 5th Oct somewhere in the 06:00-07:00 block (I guess 06:45)
Sat 5th Oct 21:30
Sun 6th Oct somewhere in the 08:00-09:00 block (I guess 08:45)

It looks as if this "Gate 24" programme has stolen half of "It's Your Money"'s timeslots. Please can you check with the BBC what's happened.

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Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: CNN International
Channel Number: 513
Programme Name: The Daily Show with Jon Stewart: Global Edition

(phew - is that the longest programme name on TiVo at the moment? :D)

According to Mr Stewart this is going to be a weekly programme (of highlights from the USA daily version). It is scheduled for Saturdays and Sundays at 23:30. I assume Sun is a re-run of Sat. (Or perhaps Sat is a re-run of the previous Sun, but less likely). Please can this be checked and the guide data be set so that the 28-day rule works and only one of each episode is scheduled.

cwaring

09-24-2002, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by DazBarber
Were the last two messages a case of Deja vu or did somebody press my own personal 'replay' button? :)
Sorry. I've deleted one now :) Summat screwed up. Was either my PC or the BBS system!

(If one of those messages gets deleted this will make NO SENSE AT ALL)! ;)

So what's new? :D

AENG

09-24-2002, 07:46 AM

SG17
Aerial
BBC2E
Ch27
Jools Holland's Piano
11.35 p.m. 4 October
Episode description, erroneously, repeats that from the first episode a week earlier.

paul lang

09-24-2002, 07:52 AM

Sky
BBC1 Scotland

Daytime listings are wrong from 11am every day this week. House Invaders showing at 11am not 11.30pm, with various other changes not reflected in the EPG.

cwaring

09-24-2002, 02:42 PM

POST 1000

Seems rather fitting that my 1000th post be in here :rolleyes: :D

The EPG is currently listing the same episode of "Buffy" (Sky One, 6pm) on both 1st and 2nd of October.

The ep on the 2nd is supposed to be S5E20, "Spiral".

SaintM

09-24-2002, 04:56 PM

Postcode: SO23
Service: FTA Digital
Channel: ITV2
Channel Number: 6
Programme Name: Spider-Man
Time/Date: Weekdays 8am

I have a season pass for this, and of the two episodes it has recorded neither of them have been Spider-man and have in fact been Pokemon.

Originally posted on the 17th, and this is still the same. Fair enough that certain problems get higher priority than others, but we all pay the same fee (no nick picking about life time subs please!) and It has been a week now since reported and nada. :(

Richardr

09-25-2002, 04:51 AM

Postcode: AL3
Service: ntl
Channel: Sci Fi
Channel Number: 402
Programme Name: The Dentist 2
Time/Date: See below:

This film is on 7th Oct at 11:50, under the title 'The Dentist II'
It is also on 4th Oct at 10pm, under the title 'The Dentist 2: Brace Yourself'

It is just the one film, but recognised as different films in the listings, albeit with exactly the same description.

Oddly enough, the UK video / DVD just seems to be called 'The Dentist 2".

kmusgrave

09-25-2002, 08:40 AM

Just a warning - the Season pass or something seems to be broken for Silent Witness next Monday on BBC1. It is a two-parter (according to the description but only one got selected in my Wishlist (for Amanda Burton). When I looked at upcoming episodes only one was listed. I looked through the guide for Tuesday and saw the second episode on there. I set a season pass from that one but there was only 1 upcoming episode on there too. I seem to remember the season pass got broken for this programme last year and I had 2 different season passes (on the same channel) for this.

Kevin (TWAD, BTW)

bobbymobile

09-26-2002, 05:01 PM

Postcode:E12

Service: sky digital

Channel: Paramount

Channel Number: 127

Programme Name: Seinfeld

Time/Date: See below:

4/10 12:35am
5/10 8:00pm
6/10 8:00pm
7/10 8:00pm
8/10 12:35am
8/10 8:00pm
9/10 12:35am
9/10 8:00pm
etc..........

there are no titles or sysnopises for these shows

bradleyem

09-27-2002, 05:44 AM

Silent Witness - TiVo seems to think that both parts are different programmes - not just different episodes. If you search programmes by name, you'll see two entries for it. A bit wrong me think.

cwaring

09-27-2002, 04:03 PM

I have a FRO SP for "The X Files" on Sky One. Naturally, this has picked up this Monday's repeats of the S9 finale (and I should hope so too as I pre-empted Thursday's showing!!).

However, I just wondered why it has also chosen to record the old episode on Oct 3 that has an OAD of 1993 and IsEpisode=False?

It is the only one of the next five listed after the Monday finale that has been set for recording and they are all old eps.

Any ideas?

gladgd

09-27-2002, 04:10 PM

Postcode: CO7
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Granada Men & Motors
Channel Number: 139
Programme Name: Foggy's Team: Against All Odds
Time/Date of airing: All
Problem encountered:

I can only presume that the series has actually finished, as absolutely none of the listed times actually yield the right programme... I've checked this with the Sky guide and it seems to be the case...

mrtickle

09-28-2002, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by cwaring

However, I just wondered why it has also chosen to record the old episode on Oct 3 that has an OAD of 1993 and IsEpisode=False?

Easy. IsEpisode false seems to disable the FRO feature and the 28-day rule. So any FRO SP will suddenly start recording all episodes. I have the same problem with Shooting Stars on BBC Choice.

sanderton

09-28-2002, 03:20 PM

IsEpisode = False means "These are not individual episodes, so don't try to apply clever TiVologic, just record it" It's intended for things like News bulletins.

bobnick

09-28-2002, 03:41 PM

Is it not more of a 'This is a special one-off' so don't bother thinking about it, or let the user set a SP?

Shame to see that there's just as many errors cropping up in the listings as ever, despite the promise of improvements. I've phoned in my problems again, and hopefully they'll be fixed this time around - somehow I doubt it. The following programme errors have been reported, so I shan't bother with all the detail - this is just a heads-up for those of you who might be interested in the shows, or are just taking count!

Johnny Vaughan Tonight
CD:UK
The Frank Skinner Show
Spike... I told you I was ill (A comedy tribute to Spike Milligan is incorrectly titled, but it's also listed as 'sports, volleyball' which is both wrong and offensive!)
Formula One (Ch 5 only)
Silent Witness

sjp

09-29-2002, 07:19 PM

Sky Digital SM3 (London-ish)

BBC Radio 2 8pm Saturday Oct 5th is not showing the David Bowie concert currently being trailed by Radio 2... There is currently a 1 hour show named "Homegrown"...

thanks for (hopefully) listening

stuart

SaintM

09-30-2002, 03:23 AM

quote:
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Postcode: SO23
Service: FTA Digital
Channel: ITV2
Channel Number: 6
Programme Name: Spider-Man
Time/Date: Weekdays 8am

I have a season pass for this, and of the two episodes it has recorded neither of them have been Spider-man and have in fact been Pokemon.
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Originally posted on the 17th, and this is still the same. Fair enough that certain problems get higher priority than others, but we all pay the same fee (no nick picking about life time subs please!) and It has been a week now since reported and nada.

This is still incorrect. *sigh*

Paj

09-30-2002, 07:38 AM

Postcode: HD9
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: ParamountComedy
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Frasier
Time/Date of airing: All
Problem encountered:

A generic description rather than the real episode synopsis. I'm sure these were all correctly described last time they were shown so I don't know why they're not in the database now.

mrtickle

09-30-2002, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by bobnick
Is it not more of a 'This is a special one-off' so don't bother thinking about it, or let the user set a SP?

Nope the one-off programmes are different. As you say they don't let you set a SP and also "view upcoming episodes" changes to "view upcoming broadcasts" for these. Normally used for films, they don't have series data linking them together.

We are having problems with programmes that are linked into a series (so let you set a SP) but with the isepisode flag set to false. For some series of programmes that will never ever be repeated, this'll do (eg Newsnight, Newsround, the Weather, Points of View etc). But for other series the lack of proper episode flags is a pain - had they been set correctly then you would at least not get duplicates. In the best cases, because TiVo skips known duplicates it gives you more chances to record episodes of other series that clash that you've put further down your priority list. I have several such clashing programmes with a carefully constructed order of priority and I need to rely on this. When the top-priority programme suddenly has isepisode false flags and schedules a lot more (duplicate) todo items, it means I'd miss the other programmes and so it's a problem! :(

Shame to see that there's just as many errors cropping up in the listings as ever, despite the promise of improvements. I've phoned in my problems again, and hopefully they'll be fixed this time around - somehow I doubt it. The following programme errors have been reported, so I shan't bother with all the detail - this is just a heads-up for those of you who might be interested in the shows, or are just taking count!

Johnny Vaughan Tonight
CD:UK
The Frank Skinner Show
Spike... I told you I was ill (A comedy tribute to Spike Milligan is incorrectly titled, but it's also listed as 'sports, volleyball' which is both wrong and offensive!)
Formula One (Ch 5 only)
Silent Witness

I for one certainly appreciate any reporting! I spotted Radio 5's F1 coverage in the ITV F1 SP, was that the error? I've got a load to post tonight hopefully if I've got time.

el10t

09-30-2002, 10:21 AM

Postcode: PO15
Service Provider: NTL digital
Channel Name: Playhouse Disney
Channel Number: 66
Programme Name: All
Time/Date of airing: Always
Problem encountered: Listing information is at least an hour out on all programs - bears no relation at all to the true schedule.

richw

09-30-2002, 02:13 PM

BA2
Sky Digital
Extreme
Channel422
Mountain Bike World Cup.

For the next 12 week days (including today), Extreme is repeating all of this years Mountain Bike World Cup, and each of the 12 episodes is being shown one per day at 07:00 and again at 22:30.

There is no episode data for any of these episodes, and IsEpisode is set to false, so TiVo is attempting to record each of the 24 programs and almost caused me to miss tonights repeat of the last X-Files episode.

Should anyone care enough to want to fix it, the episodes are as follows

30/10 - 1 Napa Valley, California, USA
01/10 - 2 Sarentino, Italy
02/10 - 3 Houffalize, Belgium
03/10 - 4 Maribor, Slovenia
04/10 - 5 Vars, France
07/10 - 6 Grouse Mountain, Canada
08/10 - 7 Durango, Colorado, USA
09/10 - 8 Arai Mountain, Japan
10/10 - 9 Leysin, Switzerland
11/10 - 10 Kaprun, Austria
14/10 - 11 Mont-Sainte-Anne, Quebec
15/10 - 12 Mont-Sainte-Anne, Quebec

Off to manually tell TiVo what I pay for it to know automatically.......

DazBarber

09-30-2002, 06:54 PM

The EastEnders problem is fixed :) No clear out of the ToDo list was needed this week! Thank you! :)

Daz

Bones

10-01-2002, 03:55 AM

Postcode : SS5
Sky Digital, 671 (GOD Channel)

Friday 13th September 10am
TiVo thought it was "Fast Forward"
Actually showing, and listed in Sky EPG, "Prayer Force"

Friday 27th September 10am
TiVo thought it was "Fast Forward"
Actually showing, and listed in Sky EPG, "Prayer Force"

bobbymobile

10-01-2002, 04:03 AM

Originally posted by bobbymobile
Postcode:E12

Service: sky digital

Channel: Paramount

Channel Number: 127

Programme Name: Seinfeld

Time/Date: See below:

4/10 12:35am
5/10 8:00pm
6/10 8:00pm
7/10 8:00pm
8/10 12:35am
8/10 8:00pm
9/10 12:35am
9/10 8:00pm
etc..........

there are no titles or sysnopises for these shows

Still not updated!!!!!

mrtickle

10-01-2002, 07:10 AM

Paramount have a very poor record of supplying listings information. It may be out of Tribune's hands.

sanderton

10-01-2002, 03:10 PM

Postcode: BA4
Service Provider: SkyD
Channel Name: BBC 2
Channel Number: 102
Programme Name: Spike Milligan: "I Told You I Was Ill" (just "Spike" in the EPG)
Time/Date of airing: Sat 5th, 9.05

Best mis-classification of the day, this tribute concert to Spike Milligan is categorised by TiVo as Sports: Basketball. He'd have enjoyed that....

(It gives the option set a SP, which suggests that Tribune have confused it with - I'm guessing here - a sports show called "Spike"?)

bobnick

10-01-2002, 03:38 PM

Hi,
This has already been reported to Tivo CS, and above. My Tivo thinks it's volleyball, rather than basketball.
It's a bloody annoying error too - it means that terry jones and michael palin wishlists won't work if people have selected comedy. I thought we were going to see some improvement in listings? I've reported loads of errors to Tivo CS, and they never get fixed. Are Tivo CS sending the reports to the wrong fax number?

Richardr

10-01-2002, 05:32 PM

Postcode: AL3
Service: ntl
Channel: ITV2 / ITV News Channel
Channel Number: 117 / 123
Programme Name: Football
Date / Time: 2/10/2002 7pm

TIVO has the same match on two channels. In fact the game on channel 123 (ITV News Channel) will be Liverpool v Spartak Moscow.

bignoise

10-01-2002, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by mrtickle
Paramount have a very poor record of supplying listings information. It may be out of Tribune's hands.
Paramount's October press listings did not contain any episodic information for Seinfeld, so it is indeed not a TiVo problem.

dallardice

10-02-2002, 04:47 AM

Channels: ITV1 (and ITV2)
Date: Sat 5 Oct
Platform: SkyDig
Postcode: N1
Programme: Popstars: The Rivals

On Saturday there are two separate 1-hour programmes, one at 7pm and one at 9.15pm. TiVo has them both listed as "The Top Ten Revealed", so an SP won't pick up both programmes.

The same applies to the ITV2 repeats on Sunday at 10.10am and 12.25pm.

Otherwise, the guide data for Popstars has been great - thanks.

bobnick

10-02-2002, 05:32 AM

Emmm, great in what sense? In the sense that each episode has the same generic description, saying that the episode features 'callbacks in the North' (when it clearly doesn't)
And now it isn't going to tape all 3 epsiodes at the weekend according to your post - missing out the epsiode where they actually reveal the final 10 sort of limits Tivo's usefulness.

I doubt that Tribune will fix this, so it might be worth a main thread in the forum later in the week.

dallardice

10-02-2002, 07:30 AM

In the sense that up until now it has recorded every episode with no repeats. I don't tend to look at the episode descriptions because I don't think in a programme of this nature they're that important.

The point was that I went on 2 weeks holiday and it recorded all the programmes with no repeats. Which is what I expect TiVo to do. It took far longer for them to get Big Brother right.

cwaring

10-02-2002, 02:04 PM

Thought this might be useful, just in case Tivo's EPG hasn't caught up yet!!

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Radio Times has been told of some schedule changes that we thought you might like to know about. The changes are for Wednesday 2 October on BBC1 and ITV1.

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WEDNESDAY 2 OCTOBER

BBC1 evening schedule change

10:35pm Hollywood Knives - the Secret History of Tinseltown under the Scalpel - replaces Angela's Trial, which will now be shown at a later date

Please note that this change applies to BBC1 Wales at 11:10pm and BBC1 Northern Ireland at 11:15pm.

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ITV1 late-night/early-morning schedule changes (does not include Ulster or Scottish regions - please see below)

10:30pm Tonight Special: Edwina Currie Exclusive
11:00pm Party Conference Broadcast by the Labour Party
11:05pm Real Bad Girls - was 10:30pm
11:35pm Champions' League Highlights - was 11:05pm
12:35am Film: Chasers - was 12:05am
2:20am Champions' League - was 1:50am; please note that Liverpool v Spartak Moscow replaces Auxerre v Arsenal
3:55am International Motor Racing - was 3:25am
4:20am Get Stuffed - was 3:50am
4:35am ITV Nightscreen - was 4:05am
5:30am ITV Morning News - as scheduled

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ITV1 Ulster late-night/early-morning schedule changes

10:30pm Tonight Special: Edwina Currie Exclusive
11:00pm Transitions
11:05pm Real Bad Girls - was 10:30pm
11:35pm Champions' League Highlights - was 11:05pm
12:35am Film: Chasers - was 12:05am
2:20am Champions' League - was 1:50am; please note that Liverpool v Spartak Moscow replaces Auxerre v Arsenal
3:55am International Motor Racing - was 3:25am
4:20am Get Stuffed - was 3:50am
4:35am ITV Nightscreen - was 4:05am
5:30am ITV Morning News - as scheduled

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ITV1 Grampian/Scottish late-night/early-morning schedule changes

10:30pm Tonight Special: Edwina Currie Exclusive
11:00pm Party Conference Broadcast
11:05pm Real Bad Girls - was 10:30pm
11:35am Champions' League - was 11:05pm
12:35am Chasers - was 12:05am
2:20am Entertainment Now - was 1:50am
2:45am Failte - as scheduled

World Football at 2:15am will no longer be showing.

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