ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors

[doubledrat]

YET AGAIN, the repeats of the above 2 shows are not identified as such, and tivo is recording the same episodes multiple times...

[kitschcamp]

Teachers
Channel 4 (104)
NTL: Nottingham franchise
e.g. 3rd April and 10th April

There are two showings that day - one at 00:35 and one at 22:00. The former is a repeat of the previous weeks showing, and every week gets flagged to be recorded, despite the first showing being recorded.

Robot Wars
BBC Choice (126)
NTL: Nottingham franchise

Continuing problems. There are usually two showings, one at 19:00 and one at 01:00. The two are the same episode, yet a season pass always attempts to record both.

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
System: SkyD
Channel: UK Style
Programme: House Detectives
Problem: The description is that of House Doctor, a completely different programme.

[GarySargent]

Kirtschcamp with regard to Teachers - I have that Season Pass too and only ever get one episode recorded IIRC. Does the extra episode actually get recorded or is it just in your ToDo list?

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by GarySargent
Kirtschcamp with regard to Teachers - I have that Season Pass too and only ever get one episode recorded IIRC. Does the extra episode actually get recorded or is it just in your ToDo list?

It is definitely in the ToDo list - I always cancel it, though, at the same time as cancelling the superfulous Robot Wars repeats, so I'm not sure if it actually would get recorded or not. The second showing a day of Northern Exposure, in contrast, never ever gets onto the ToDo list.

[GarySargent]

Try leaving it then and see if it gets recorded (don't now that you've cancelled it say "Record this episode also" as it will definitely record it then! Either wait for another weeks episode to appear, or cancel and recreate the whole season pass).

[dallardice]

A Place in The Sun
C4 weekdays 5pm from 1st April
Sky Digital

This run starts with repeats of last year's series followed by a new series immediately after. Tonight's edition shows an Original Air Date of 21/08/2001 yet my "First Run Only" SP still puts it in my To-Do list. It shouldn't, should it? The same problem happens all week.

I had hoped that TiVo would pick up when the new episodes started showing through the FRO pass - but did intend to keep an eye on other listings sources in case TiVo missed it!

[BrianHughes]

Postcode: BT15 5DZ
NTL Digital
RTE1

The channel is out by 1 hr for the whole of the coming week. It looks like some snafu with the change to summer time. It is affecting every program on the channel.

ie a program which is actually on at 9pm is shown as starting at 10pm.

[cwaring]

- Postcode: WF1
- Service Provider: Telewest AD
- Channel Name: UK Gold
- Channel Number: 124
- Programme Name: Various
- Time/Date of airing: Various
- Problem encountered: Old episodes of "The Bill", "Neighbours" and "Eastenders" all have the 'year' shown as 2002 even though all of these programmes are currently around the mid-90's.

I was going to apologise if this had already been mentioned but if it had surely it should have been fixed by now :)

[ozsat]

I know Tribune are working hard with the OADs - but there are 1,500 of 'The Bill' to do and 3.500 'Neighbours' - they have all the data but I guess it will take some time.

[Shoom]

Robbie Williams Nobody Someday
ch4 10:00pm tonight

Not sure if it was moved or cancelled been away all easter

But Tivo recored Muriel's Wedding

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of airing: Sun 7th April 18:30
Problem: OAD is wrong

Episode is "Half-Decent Proposal", DABF04. It's a First Run. OAD listed in guide is 10th Feb 2002 and so a First Run SP doesn't work.

The Simpsons First Runs were working, and are now not working :(

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Ally McBeal
Time/Date of airing: Tue 16th Apr 21:00
Problem: OAD is wrong

Episode is "One Hundred Tears Away", Series 5 epno 510. It's a First Run. OAD listed in guide is 20th Oct 1997 and so a First Run SP doesn't work.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sci-Fi (Europe)
Channel Number: 130
Programme Name: Lexx
Time/Date of airing: Thursdays 21:00

Problem1: Missing episode details, should be as follows:

Thurs 4th April 21:00 "Viva Lexx Vegas" Episode 4.21
- REPEATED Mon 8th April 00:25

Thurs 11th April 21:00 "Trip" Episode 4.22
- REPEATED Mon 15th April 00:25

Thurs 18th April 21:00 "Lyekka vs. Japan" Episode 4.23
- REPEATED the Sun/Mon following

Thurs 25th April 21:00 "Yo Way Yo" Episode 4.24 (last in series)
- REPEATED the Sun/Mon following

Problem2: linked to problem1 - the Sunday night repeats aren't being detected and the 28-day rule isn't working. Just because you may not have the correct synopses doesn't mean that it's still Thursday with a repeat of that episode on Sunday night! There's no need to turn off the 28-day rule :(

[Paj]

Originally posted by ozsat
I know Tribune are working hard with the OADs - but there are 1,500 of 'The Bill' to do and 3.500 'Neighbours' - they have all the data but I guess it will take some time.

Who in their right mind would use a "First Run Only" SP for these old shows? By its very nature, UK Gold is a repeat channel. Why do we need an accurate OAD for them at all?

[ozsat]

I personally like to see the year, but the full OAD means nothing to me if the year is not the current year.

[Paj]

But surely the emphasis should be on getting the first run system working correctly. Sure, it would be a nice touch but TiVo is not designed to be an archive of interesting facts and figures! :)

[ozsat]

But when old repeats with no current OAD are being setup with an OAD of today - then the repeats need correcting asap.

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: Fear Factor
Time/Date of airing: 2/4/2002 - 21:00

Tonight's episode has the same episode description as last weeks, as does next weeks. On the assumption that Sky are not repeating the same programme 3 weeks in a row this must be wrong. Meanwhile season passes fail to pick it up under the 28 day rule.

[BrianHughes]

Originally posted by BrianHughes
Postcode: BT15 5DZ
NTL Digital
RTE1

The channel is out by 1 hr for the whole of the coming week. It looks like some snafu with the change to summer time. It is affecting every program on the channel.

ie a program which is actually on at 9pm is shown as starting at 10pm.

I've just checked this again, hoping that a download would have corrected this but it is still wrong for the whole week of data that is available. A few more examples:

Every day the Angelus is shown as 7pm (as we all know the Angelus is at 6pm - by definition!).

The 6'O clock news is at 7.01pm every day and the 1 O'Clock news is at 2pm.

This is really annoying as it is recording totally the wrong things and causing clashes with programmes on other channels.

[Richardr]

Originally posted by Richardr
Postcode: AL3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: Fear Factor
Time/Date of airing: 2/4/2002 - 21:00

Tonight's episode has the same episode description as last weeks, as does next weeks. On the assumption that Sky are not repeating the same programme 3 weeks in a row this must be wrong. Meanwhile season passes fail to pick it up under the 28 day rule.

If it helps, this weeks was the one that aired March 4th in the US.

[craig@rewind]

MTV Dance on Sky Digital is only broadcast between 7pm and 6am. TiVo keeps recording 2 hours of blank EPG screen for me! :rolleyes:

[ozsat]

Originally posted by craig@rewind
MTV Dance on Sky Digital is only broadcast between 7pm and 6am. TiVo keeps recording 2 hours of blank EPG screen for me! :rolleyes: The best bits :)

There are quite a few channels with this problem :(

[stevebax]

Postcode: SK11
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: ITV Granada
Channel Number: 103
Programme Name: Forsyte Saga
Time/Date of airing: 7/4/2002 - 21:00 (and weekly thereafter)

Description, actor list etc is for the original Black and White series - this is a brand new production

[the_hut]

Don't know why but my season pass for Survivor failed last night, having worked the previous two weeks. Looking at the upcoming episodes for the seasons pass said "No forthcoming episodes."

Went to the "pick programmes to record" menu and typed in Survivor - hey presto it was listed. Set up a second season pass and now it should record the repeat on Saturday.

very annoying, though.

[Paj]

Originally posted by Paj
This programme's description is the same as the showing of "Tomorrow's World Live Lab" from the 28th of March ("the single pedal car"). There is another showing of "Tomorrow's World Live Lab" on Wednesday the 3rd ("the horse whip which lets you know if it's been over-used"), so maybe this will be a repeat of that show instead?


Stand down Tribune! After checking I found that this WAS a repeat of the old episode ("pedal car"). It does feature signing for the hard of hearing, so I suppose the different title is OK. It would be nice if the description mentioned the sign language though.

[Paj]

Postcode: HD9
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: When Louis Met Max Clifford
Time/Date of airing: 4/4/2002 2.40 am

This was actually a repeat showing of "Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends", about Asian marriage agencies. It also featured sign language for the hard of hearing. The Sky EPG was correct. Do the BBC not pass on information about these signed programmes?

[sanderton]

It also featured sign language for the hard of hearing. The Sky EPG was correct. Do the BBC not pass on information about these signed programmes? [/B]

It would be useful if the sign language versions were flagged in some way - it's happened to me a couple of times that TiVo has chosen a late night alternate rather than prime time to record a programme, which has then had half the screen obscured by the signer.

A great service, but I'd rather be able to choose the full screen version!

No idea how you'd implement that though..

[da33431]

That MTV Dance problem really annoys me too!! It's the only MTV channel that doesn't have correct listings - very poor as I'd like to have Season Passes to shows like Fresh Tracks and I Got Mashed In...

[sanderton]

Channel: BBC 1/2
Date: Suday
Programme: Rugby

Just saw this on Digital Spy, son't know if it's in the scheduke yet:




BBC One to show Six Nations decider
Posted on Thursday, 4th April 2002 at 13:11 BST by Neil Wilkes
BBC One is to screen England's potential Six Nations Championship decider in Rome this Sunday, April 7.

Sunday games are normally broadcast on BBC Two, but the Corporation is to break with tradition and switch to BBC One, where it will air after the EastEnders Omnibus finishes at 2.25pm. The game will begin at 3pm, and the programme will run through until 5.05pm.

[deshepherd]

Postcode: BS6
Provider: Telewest digital
Channel: BBC4
Date: Fridays and Staurdays weekly (I think)
Program: The DVD Collection

Same program is broadcast 2 or 3 times over the weekend and despite seeming to have the same description I'm finding that a season pass is picking up more than one of the progs.

[AENG]

About the late-night repeats of programmes with signing for the deaf (hard of hearing?). Sanderton mentioned it last. Several times it's saved the day for me when there has been a prime-time clash with a wish-list or SP. Knowing in advance about the signing would be nice but I wouldn't welcome any additional action being needed to get it to record. The gesticulating foreground figure is a bit distracting but I'd rather put up with that than miss the programme altogether.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by AENG
About the late-night repeats of programmes with signing for the deaf (hard of hearing?). Sanderton mentioned it last. Several times it's saved the day for me when there has been a prime-time clash with a wish-list or SP. Knowing in advance about the signing would be nice but I wouldn't welcome any additional action being needed to get it to record. The gesticulating foreground figure is a bit distracting but I'd rather put up with that than miss the programme altogether.

Agreed, wasn't suggesting they should not record. Of course if you are a deaf TiVo owner, you'd like to know which ones had signing too!

I suspect this would require a siftware change for an option along the lines of First Run ("Record Signed Versions also"), so won't ever happen, unless they have the same thing in the States.

[Brownedger]

Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: Sky Sports 1
Date: Sundays first show 10.30am
Program: Jimmy Hill's Sunday supplement
Problem: Tivo is recording second showing on season pass, this showing is always a repeat of the first.

[geecross]

Postcode: SK14
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: Channel 4
Date: Saturday April 6th
Program: Third Watch
Problem: This is a double episode but only one listed - timings are incorrect.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by mrtickle
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Ally McBeal
Time/Date of airing: Tue 16th Apr 21:00
Problem: OAD is wrong

Episode is "One Hundred Tears Away", Series 5 epno 510. It's a First Run. OAD listed in guide is 20th Oct 1997 and so a First Run SP doesn't work.

Correction, sorry - Episode is "One Hundred Years" - "One Hundred Tears Away" is a Season 1 episode).

TiVo is listing the Season 1 episode along with its Season 1 OAD (note: Digiguide also has this error).

Problem 2: The repeat showing on Wed 17th at 01:05 is missing from TiVo's data.

The 3rd and 4th showings of this episode on Sun 21st and Mon 22nd look ok.

[Brownedger]

Tribune need to get the Masters golf coverage next week on the BBC sorted out, Season Passes won't record the sessions because BBC start on BBC 2 then switch to BBC 1 at approx. 10.30pm for remaining Live coverage, Tivo thinks this is a repeat recording and will only record ONE session and not the other under this 28 day rule.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Brownedger
Tribune need to get the Masters golf coverage next week on the BBC sorted out, Season Passes won't record the sessions because BBC start on BBC 2 then switch to BBC 1 at approx. 10.30pm for remaining Live coverage, Tivo thinks this is a repeat recording and will only record ONE session and not the other under this 28 day rule.SPs will not work across channels - but it should work if you use a Wishlist.

[Brownedger]

Originally posted by ozsat
SPs will not work across channels - but it should work if you use a Wishlist.

I know ONE season pass doesn't but i have TWO set, one on each channel and still it doesn't intend to record all sessions because of 28 day rule, Tivo thinks the other session is a repeat of the first, when in fact it is a seemless continuation of Live coverage split over TWO channels.

As i said they need to get it sorted, this is happenning regularly with other TWO part shows.

[geecross]

CSI: Crime Scene Investigation on Living (Sky Digital)- incorrect episode listings for this week only. Season Passes will not record the episodes for next week under 28-day rule.

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: ntl
Channel Name: BBC4
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Whole Schedule
Time/Date of airing: From 14th April

Next week's BBC4 schedule, which only arrived last night, is a complete shambles, and bears little relationship with actual programmes.

Saturday (13th) looks right.

From Sunday nearly every programme is wrong, with very few programmes even being listed.

Examples:

Sunday 8pm - to be announced
Sunday 9pm - to be announced
Sunday 10 pm - to be announced.


Monday 9pm - to be announced
Monday 10pm - to be announced
Monday 10:10pm - Movie (which is correct but a name might prove useful!)

The same pattern continues the rest of the week.

[mrtickle]

note that BBC4 is on 161, not 106 - to confuse BBC4 with Sky One is rather insulting to BBC4 :D

[Richardr]

Or 127 here - corrected above, thanks.

It still seems to me that in the past few weeks Tribune have been using a draft schedule for BBC, and are not always getting around to updating it when the actual schedule is released.

[ALanJay]

Sky DIgital England
Driven C4
all episodes have no episode info so both Thursday and Monday (am - the repeat) are recorded. 28 Day rule not being applied.

[barney]

PostCode: B98
Transmitter: Lichfield
Channel: Channel 5 (UHF 37)
Date: Monday 8th April @ 20:00

5th Gear - no program synopsis. Repeated on Tuesday 9th April @ 19:00 but not marked as repeat.

Similarly for the following weeks show. (and so on?)

[duncan418]

NTL Digital (Ex CWC)
Channel 111 - Living
All Days

For ex-CWC Ntl customers this channel finishes broadcasting at midnight, but guide data does not reflect this so I keep getting hours of Front Row previews instead of CSI.

[doubledrat]

Can we have some assurance from tribune that the issues raised here are actually dealt with? Otherwise we're pi**ing into the wind somewhat. The evidence seems to suggest that they're taking no notice whatsoever.

(already reported a previous week) BOX OFFICE AMERICA the repeat showing is STILL being recorded as well as the first showing that week

(already reported a previous week) CYBERNET the repeat showing is STILL being recorded as well as the first showing that week

also, CYBERNET had an OAD of 1997. Quite impressive seeing as they were reviewing the xbox - and I thought cybernet was behind the times!

"When Louis met Max Clifford" was actually an old "Louis Theroux's weird weekend"

[barney]

PostCode: B98
Transmitter: Sutton Coldfield
Channel: BBC1 (UHF 46)
Date: Friday 12th April @ 21:30

Blackadder II - Episode incorrectly listed as series 2 episode 2 - Heads. Should be series 2 episode 1 - Bells.

This is causing the real episode 2 to not be recorded as part of a season pass.

[sammoj]

Originally posted by doubledrat
Can we have some assurance from tribune that the issues raised here are actually dealt with? Otherwise we're pi**ing into the wind somewhat. The evidence seems to suggest that they're taking no notice whatsoever.

(already reported a previous week) BOX OFFICE AMERICA the repeat showing is STILL being recorded as well as the first showing that week

(already reported a previous week) CYBERNET the repeat showing is STILL being recorded as well as the first showing that week

also, CYBERNET had an OAD of 1997. Quite impressive seeing as they were reviewing the xbox - and I thought cybernet was behind the times!

"When Louis met Max Clifford" was actually an old "Louis Theroux's weird weekend"

Must admit I have given up reporting guide problems. The current data has become a complete joke.

I have no idea what happened to "The Forsyte Saga" on Sunday - set up a season pass, next sundays is there, history told me it had been removed from the guide data. Went to check and there it was for 9pm on the previous Sunday BUT the description had been removed. The cast list are mostly dead as well as they have the original cast members listed!

I have given up with Top Gear GTI, which records ALL 4 showings of the same program, even though it clearly shows it within the last 28 days.

It must be data and not software that is causing this........

Come on Tribune, are you still there - are you allowed to comment or not?

JS

[AENG]

I know it's hard to maintain the motivation to report errors when there's no sign that anybody is reading the posts. But please let's keep it up.

Sooner or later (surely?) SOMEONE will cotton on to the fact that without good guide data TiVo is cr*p product not even a useful shape as a door-stop. I love my TiVo (don't we all?) and believe every home should have one (or 13 :) ) I desperately want it to be commercially successful in the UK but can't see it happening with its USP as compromised as this.

[GarySargent]

Speak for yourself - I have very few guide data problems. You lot watch too much American trash ;)

[mrtickle]

From now on I'll be keeping records of how often I've re-reported various errors, to better track how they are performing.

BTW the Louis Theroux programme being an old Weekend one and not the Max Clifford ep - digiguide had the same error.

[doubledrat]

Originally posted by GarySargent
Speak for yourself - I have very few guide data problems. You lot watch too much American trash ;)

I seem to remember that cybernet is in your list - doesn't tivo record repeats every week for you too? ;)

[GDPurcocks]

Postcode:WR14
Service: Aerial
Channel 4 on channel 50
Andromeda/Stargate SG1
16:50-19:30 7th April

Guide showed. Andromeda followed by Stargate followed by Smallville.
In fact it was scheduled as Andromeda/Stargate(last of old series)/Stargate (new series). There was no Smallville.
The order was changed at the last minute but my weekly TV Guide printed on Friday shows as above.
This also happened the week before with the Tivo Guide showing
Andromeda/Time Team/Smallville when in fact Andromeda was after Time Team. Again no Smallville. Again it was correct in my TV Guide.

So neither of the above were last minute changes.

[GDPurcocks]

Postcode WR14:Aerial:BBC2 on channel 40
British Touring Cars at 13:45 on 6th April

Correctly timed but categorised as Sport/Racing rather than Sport/Motor Racing so not picked up by my Wish List. In fact not sure what category Racing is as this is not something I have seen in the Wish list.

[GarySargent]

Originally posted by doubledrat


I seem to remember that cybernet is in your list - doesn't tivo record repeats every week for you too? ;)

Don't normally find time to watch that - its on my "C" list :D

[Tom123]

E4 error

Service: SkyDigital England
Channel: E4 (ch 205)
Date: thursday 18th april
Time: 9pm - 11 pm
prog: Friends/ER

TiVo-Listing: 09.00-09.30 Friends (new episode)
09.30-10.30 ER (new episode)

actual listing:09-10.00 Friends double bill (both new episodes)
10-11.00 ER (new episode)

[manolan]

Originally posted by GDPurcocks
Guide showed. Andromeda followed by Stargate followed by Smallville.
In fact it was scheduled as Andromeda/Stargate(last of old series)/Stargate (new series). There was no Smallville.
The order was changed at the last minute but my weekly TV Guide printed on Friday shows as above.
This also happened the week before with the Tivo Guide showing
Andromeda/Time Team/Smallville when in fact Andromeda was after Time Team. Again no Smallville. Again it was correct in my TV Guide.

So neither of the above were last minute changes.

But fairly late as Radio Times was wrong, too.

[bobg]

kt3
itv digital
itv1car

the forsyte saga - sundays at 8
season pass created for the episode on the 7th April does not catch the episode on the 14th. The description does not refer to this new series but the series 30? years ago.

[groovyclam]

Service: SkyDigital
Channel: E4 (ch 205)
Date: thursday 18th april onwards

The whole of E4 listings for the latter half of April need checking - schedules are wrong ( e.g. Thursday 18th - should actually have double episode of new Friends from 9pm-10pm with ER shifted later to 10pm )

None of the ER episodes for the latter half of April have the correct episode data.

E4 have obviously changed the April schedules - Trubine need to check for new E4 data.

[GarySargent]

Service: ITV Digital
Channel: ITV1 (ITV1YOR CH3)
Date: Wed 17 Apr 2002 21:00

Survivor was due to not be recorded under the 28 day rule. This is a new episode.

The episode on Sat 13 Apr 23:45 is a repeat but this is set to record and was not dismissed due to the 28 day rule.

So that Sat show needs marking as a repeat of the previous Wed show, and the Wed show is always a new show.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Tom123
E4 error

Service: SkyDigital England
Channel: E4 (ch 205)
Date: thursday 18th april
Time: 9pm - 11 pm
prog: Friends/ER

TiVo-Listing: 09.00-09.30 Friends (new episode)
09.30-10.30 ER (new episode)

actual listing:09-10.00 Friends double bill (both new episodes)
10-11.00 ER (new episode)

This is also the case for me, here in West Yorkshire.

- Postcode: WF1
- Service Provider: TW AD
- Channel Name: E4
- Channel Number: 144

Incidently, DigiGuide has these listed correctly :D

[Tom123]

And here's another "Friends" warning:

Service: SkyDigital England
Date: today Friday, 12th april
Channel: E4 (ch205)
Prog: Friends

TiVo-Listing: 6.30pm Friends (repeat of last night's episode)
8.30pm Friends (repeat of 5pm showing of old episode)

Actually shown at 6.30 was a repeat of the 5pm showing of an old episode.
The repeat of last nights new episode will be shown at 8.30pm!

So you better be double-checking your ToDo-lists.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Tom123
The repeat of last nights new episode will be shown at 8.30pm!
So you better be double-checking your ToDo-lists.

Just tried to watch it. Thought there was somthing odd! Will watch (or maybe record!) at 20:30

To keep on-topic this also applies to TWAD in Yorkshire!! To be fair, I think this was more a foul*-up at E4 - eg wrong tape in the machine or whatever - rather than a listings problem!

(I did try to put "c o c k-up" but it got *'d out by the system!)

[Tom123]

I think you are right. Even the E4 website has it wrong.
Odd though: Sky's EPG shows the correct program info....

Cheers,

Tom

[Richardr]

Sky Digital
Channel 464
Name - Digital Classics Tv

The schedule via TIVO bears no relation to the programmes actually broadcast.


The programmes broadcast are on


http://www.digitalclassics.tv/schedule.pasp

[topbanana]

A few more:

Postcode: AB10
Source: Analogue Terrestial

Channel: 22 - BBC2SCO
Time&Date: Fri 12/4 9:30pm - 10:00pm
Guide Data: Blackadder II
Broadcast: Vicar of Dibley

Channel: 22 - BBC2SCO
Time&Date: Fri 13/4 1:15am - 02:00apm
Guide Data: Robot Wars Extreme
Broadcast: Buffy the Vampire Stuffer

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by Tom123
I think you are right. Even the E4 website has it wrong.
Odd though: Sky's EPG shows the correct program info....


I suspect that there are financial penalties if the data that broadcasters send to Sky for the EPG is incorrect. Out of 6 souces of listings (including 3 direct from the BBC), only 1 had correct listings for BBC on the evening that the Queen Mum died. That source was the Sky EPG...

[cwaring]

Originally posted by mrtickle


I suspect that there are financial penalties if the data that broadcasters send to Sky for the EPG is incorrect. Out of 6 souces of listings (including 3 direct from the BBC), only 1 had correct listings for BBC on the evening that the Queen Mum died. That source was the Sky EPG...

I would have thought that a "Royal Obit" would been an exceptional circumstance and therefore not subject to this. BICBW!

[mrtickle]

It was just an example of how accurate that Sky EPG is turning out to be, even in the most arduous conditions. I'm convinced it's because of the financial penalties and/or direct links to the broadcaster's playout systems.

Personally, if in future the Sky EPG disagrees with every other source of listings, the alarm bells will be ringing at chez mrtickle! :)

[ozsat]

The BBC have full control over their own EPG information on digital satellite - so if a change is required, it can be done instantly by them.

[topbanana]

Originally posted by topbanana
A few more:

Postcode: AB10
Source: Analogue Terrestial

Channel: 22 - BBC2SCO
Time&Date: Fri 12/4 9:30pm - 10:00pm
Guide Data: Blackadder II
Broadcast: Vicar of Dibley

Channel: 22 - BBC2SCO
Time&Date: Fri 13/4 1:15am - 02:00apm
Guide Data: Robot Wars Extreme
Broadcast: Buffy the Vampire Stuffer

Also:

Channel: 22 - BBC2SCO
Time&Date: Sat 13/4 3:35pm - 4:00pm
Guide Data: Malcolm in the Middle
Broadcast: Golf


I suspect the whole of BBC2SCO is being listed as some other flavour of BBC, nothing else seems to line up properly in my EPG data either. Has anyone seen a channel be accidentally replaced with the contents of another before now ?

[mrtickle]

Indeed - apologies if I didn't make it clear.

[earthling]

- Postcode TW9
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) Telewest
- Channel Name E4
- Channel Number 144
- Programme Name Friends
- Time/Date of airing Friday 12 April 2002 18:30
- Problem encountered Different episode broadcast to what TiVo had in listings guide. Please ensure it doesn't happen again.

[Ianl]

provider:analogcable
channel: QVC
time: saturday night 3.30am
program : big boys toys
actual program : somethging to do with kitchen appliances

[GarySargent]

Provider: NTL Digital
Channel: BRAVOD 406
Time: Sat and Sun 9pm (and repeated later in each night)
Program: Combat Missions

This has a generic description so each episode is recorded - the late night repeat ones shouldn't be. There are two new episodes at 9pm each Sat and Sun.

More alarmingly, the generic description has changed and includes a spoiler as to what will happen towards the end of this competion show. I now know part of the outcome :(
The description also says "In a special two-hour edition" but this weeks episodes were only one hour long.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by earthling
- Postcode TW9
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) Telewest
- Channel Name E4
- Channel Number 144
- Programme Name Friends
- Time/Date of airing Friday 12 April 2002 18:30
- Problem encountered Different episode broadcast to what TiVo had in listings guide. Please ensure it doesn't happen again.

This has alreqady been noted. We think it was an E4 problem, not a listings problem. ie someone put the wrong tape in or something!

(BTW, yes, I KNOW they don't use tapes anymore and it's all automated, etc, but I couldn't think how else to explain it :) )

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of airing: Sun 21st April 18:30
Problem: OAD is wrong

Episode is "Bart Wants What It Wants", DABF06. It's a First Run. OAD listed in guide is 17th Feb 2002 and so a First Run SP doesn't work.

This is the 2nd new Simpsons episode in a row where the First Run has failed for the UK - it was the same problem two weeks ago (which I also reported in plenty of time, but it wasn't fixed). In fact it's only worked ONCE for the Simpsons.

[rasheed]

Two notes:

-It is rare in the US to have visual (hand) signing on shows (very occassionally). It seems to be assumed that if a person knows sign, they know how to read. So, practically all recorded shows are Closed Captioned (which is text-based). You cannot do a selection based on CC in the US TiVo either.

-Fear Factor in the US usually doesn't have episode guide data. It is generic and a SP just records every episode. Only when 'celebrities' appear on the show is there sometimes a description/OAD/episode number in the show. Otherwise, nada (no OAD, ep. number or description).

Rasheed

[Richardr]

Originally posted by rasheed
Fear Factor in the US usually doesn't have episode guide data. It is generic and a SP just records every episode. Only when 'celebrities' appear on the show is there sometimes a description/OAD/episode number in the show. Otherwise, nada (no OAD, ep. number or description). That would be better than the situation here quoted above where a combination of the wrong description and OAD, repeated for three weeks, and isepisode=true meaning that the 28 day rule would hvae prevented three weeks of recordings.

[craig@rewind]

Originally posted by craig@rewind
MTV Dance on Sky Digital is only broadcast between 7pm and 6am. TiVo keeps recording 2 hours of blank EPG screen for me! :rolleyes:

This has now been corrected although it does say "SIGN ON" for 9am!!!

[iankb]

Holiday on BBC1 via Sky has started a new Season Pass series for this week only.

i.e. Last week and next week are on the original series.

Ian.

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Service Provider: Terrestial Analogue
Channel Name: ITV1CEN (ITV1 Central)
Channel Number: 61
Prog Name: Many
Time/Date of Airing: Various

It appears that the listings that were updated over the weekend for ITV1 Central are in fact from ITV1 Granada's data. The following are the errors I have noticed, but there may be many others:

Sat 20/04
1240-1245 Granada News and Weather

Sun 21/04
1355-1400 Granada News and Weather

Mon 22/04 through to Fri 26/04 inclusive
1800-1825 Granada Reports

All of the above should be Central News and Weather (or slight variants of that title).

The Central News and Weather listings are correct up to and including Friday 19th April.

This has happened before, reported 5th February 2002 (post http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=345761#post345761 )

Can something be done to stop this re-occurring?

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Service Provider: Terrestial Analogue
Channel Name: C4
Channel Number: 54
Prog Name: World Cup Rally
Time/Date of Airing: Sun 21st April 2002, 1900-1930


Should be "World Rally" so season pass can pick it up (cf Fri 19/4 1930-2000 and Sat 20/4 1900-2000 which work properly).

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Service Provider: Terrestial Analogue
Channel Name: BBC2M
Channel Number: 64
Prog Name: Shooting Stars!
Time/Date of Airing: Monday 15th April 2002, 2100-2130

OAD is shown as 8th April (I think - well, a previous week's date) even though this is a first showing on BBC2 so this won't record due to the 28 day rule. I know it's too late for Tribune to fix, but a warning to users that you may need to manually force this episode to record.

[njkmoore]

Postcode: EC1
Service Provider: Digital Cable, Telewest
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 132
Prog Name: Roseanne
Time/Date of Airing: 18:30

TiVo repeated tries to record Roseanne while the Paramount Comedy channel is off air, at least it is on my service.

[njkmoore]

Postcode: EC1
Service Provider: Digital Cable, Telewest
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 132
Prog Name: Spin City/ Dharma and Greg
Time/Date of Airing: 21:00

TiVo hasn't yet spotted the schedule change that has replaced Spin City with Dharma and Greg.

[doogie]

Originally posted by njkmoore
Postcode: EC1
Service Provider: Digital Cable, Telewest
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 132
Prog Name: Spin City/ Dharma and Greg
Time/Date of Airing: 21:00

TiVo hasn't yet spotted the schedule change that has replaced Spin City with Dharma and Greg.

Same on Sky Digital :(

[seejayou]

Postcode: LS8
Service Provider: Digital Cable, NTL
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 144
Prog Name: Dawsons Creek
Time/Date of Airing: 3:45PM 16/4 Tivo listing has this as 4PM

[ozsat]

WWFE Backlash is to be shown live at 1am on Sunday night/Monday morning (21st/22nd April) on Sky Digital channel 770 (and on cable).

It will also repeat every four hours from 4pm on Monday.

This is not currently listing on TiVo - but then Sky do not seem to have published the schedules for it!

[cwaring]

Postcode: WF1
Service Provider: TW AD
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 144
1.
Prog Name: Friends
Time/Date of Airing: 8:30pm 16/4 Tivo EPG has episode listed as "The One With The Free Porn". DigiGuide lists as "The One With Rachel's New Dress", as does the E4 web site.

2.
Prog Name: "Ally McBeal"
Time/Date of Airing: 9:00pm 16/4 Tivo EPG has episode listed as "One Hundred Tears Away, and billed as a Series 1 episode. It is, in fact, "One Hundred Tears" and is S5E10. I can see the confusion, as there IS a S1 ep called "One Hundred Tears". ALSO, the repeat at 1:05am is not listed. Instead, "So Graham Norton" appears at 1.10pm.

[Olly]

Postcode: CH47
Service Provider: Sky
Channel Name: C4
Channel Number: 104
Prog Name: World Cup Rally
Time/Date of Airing: 20/4 7pm 21/4 7pm

The programme title is incorrect. It should be "World Rally" (Or more accurately World Rally Championship) with ObjID 318515/-1. World Cup Rally is a different programme altogether (ObjID 181697/-1 ?).

The listings on S4C (at later times) are correct.

Could someone explain these ObjIDs and SeriesID etc. please? If I understood them better I might be able to make more constructive comments.

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
Service Provider: Sky
Channel Name: Sky Sports 1
Channel Number: 401
Prog Name: Ford Rugby Union Live
Time/Date of Airing: Friday 7.30


Shown as "Ringside" on TiVo, this is an extra live rugby union match which has been added late.

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: ITV (LWT and other regions)
Channel Number: 103
Prog Name: Soccer saturday
Time/Date of Airing: 21/4/2002 - about 2pm

In the LWT, Anglia and Central regions tomorrow programmes have changed to show different live football games, all kick-off 2pm. This change is not in the TIVO schedules, at least for LWT which is the region I get.

[cwaring]

Postcode: WF1
Service Provider: TW AD
Channel Name: Sci-Fi
Channel Number: 135
Prog Name: Sliders
Time/Date of Airing: 2/5/02 @ 2100 & 4/5/02 @ 1800
Episode Name "Summer Of Love"

This episode has a date of 2002. This is wrong. Can't remember the actual production dates, but it was around the late 90's.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of airing: various, see below
Problem: OAD is wrong

Today's First Run episode (previously reported) has been fixed, thanks. The next one, "The Lastest Gun in the West" on Sunday 5th May 18:30 is also correct.

However it has now flipped over the other way - there are some old repeats being wrongly marked as First Run :(

These are:

Sun 5th May 18:00 "A Tale of Two Springfields"
Sun 5th May 19:30 "HOMR"
Tue 7th May 19:00 "New Kids on the Blecch"

None of them are "First Runs" on Sky One.

[mooky]

Postcode: B31
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: ITV
Channel Number: 103
Programme Name: Forsythe Saga
Time/Date of airing: 21/4/
Problem: Season Pass broken. Was correctly recording episodes up to Last night (21/4) when last nights episode was not. Season pass reported no upcoming episodes, even though it was on at 9pm on 103.

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Service Provider: ntl:home
Channel Name: ITV Sport Select
Channel Number: 111
Prog Name: The Big Match
Time/Date of Airing: 24/4/2002 - 7:30pm

The Arsenal v West Ham game tomorrow night is not showing in the listings.

(For Sky Digital users it does show up under Premiership Plus, but isn't shown for ntl cable viewers.)

[JonMace]

Postcode: BR3
Service Provider: ntl:home
Channel Name: Sky one
Channel Number: 30
Prog Name: Stargate SG-1
Time/Date of Airing: weekdays 11.30am

Appearing as 1st run when the episodes are very old repeats

[richard plumb]

Postcode: BN1
Service Provider: ITV Digital
Channel Name: Channel 5
Channel Number: 5
Prog Name: 5th Gear
Time/Date of Airing: Mondays 8pm, repeated Tuesday 7.30pm

Program descriptions not changed for two weeks. Resulted in recording not being scheduled as it thinks its the same episode it has already recorded.

[ALanJay]

Service Provider: Sky Digital (England)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number:
Prog Name: Friends


Some episodes now appearing as 1st run but I think they are not the current series - not that the OAD is changed from the original US version it is extermly hard to tell.

Also on this front also noticed the Stargate first runs which aren't.

Also the episodes of CSI on Living TV have a OAD of the current date yet they are a previous season - not sure what this is supposed to do as I don't know if Living have repeated them before or will do so again?

[earthling]

Service Provider: Telewest Active Digital
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number:
Prog Name: Friends

Some episodes now appearing as 1st run but they are not the current series. TiVo is now recording all old Series 7 episodes, which HAVE been shown before on E4.

Please only give Series 8 a 2002 date.

[martinh4]

Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: UK Gold
Channel Number:
Prog Name: The Bill

Repeats of The Bill on UK Gold are listed as 2002 when they are repeats from late 90's

Martin

[mrtickle]

So many programmes are now crying wolf with First Runs. What's going on?

[earthling]

Originally posted by mrtickle
So many programmes are now crying wolf with First Runs. What's going on?

Here here! TiVo, what are you on?

[GMC]

The listings for Sir Arthur Connan Doyle's The Lost World on SciFi are totally inadequate since no episode details are given. Even the limited information already shown is incorrect.

Titles of episodes being broadcast should be included thus preventing the Tivo from trying to record the same episode twice (ie Friday and Sunday).

[Kevin Harrison]

Please sort out the fun runs correctly. I am getting Tivo trying to record all series 7 of friends and numerous Simpson episodes.

Kev Harrison.

[woody]

TA20
Sky Digital
SkyPremier 1
301
Where The Money Is
20.00 29/04/2002
Wrong program listed. Should read The Thomas Crown Affair

[rychard]

postcode EX7 0BJ
provider: terrestial aerial
programme: BBC2 - no programmes shown for Tuesdays - only the generic BBC2 2-hour slots starting at 2:00 am and ending at 12:am
this has been going on since the software update finally got to me.
BBC2 is my favourite channel, too!

[dmchapman]

Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: CBeebies
Channel Number: 622
Prog Name: All programs


A season pass for anything on Cbeebies records *all* episodes even though everything on the channel is repeated 3 times a day.

This has been reported here 2 months ago (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=381299&highlight=tweenies#post381299) and reported to CS a month ago.

Nothing has improved. *please * can this be looked at as it makes the whole idea of keeping x episodes pointless.

Also, the program details for "come outside", "tweenies" and "Bob the builder" are wrong every single day - less of an issue but still annoying!

The correct data is available on the bbc website a week in advance...

Darren

[kitschcamp]

- DE74
- ntl: Leicestershire
- C4
- 104
- V Graham Norton
- Nightly Mon-Fri from 6/5 11:05pm
- All shows each night are shown as the same episode, so no option to set a season pass, and if I try to create an autorecording wish list only the first one will record even if placed No 1 in the Season Pass Manager.

[Richardr]

Because of the addition of football tonight:

ITV1 shows the football - and this is on TIVO

C5 reschedules to put a film against the football and this is not on TIVO.

Per Radio Times C5 tonight is:

8:00pm Film: Airspeed
9:35pm Film: True Crime - was 9:00pm
12:00am Out There
12:30am La Femme Nikita - was 12:25am
1:20am NFL Europe - was 1:15am
1:45am NHL Ice Hockey Live - was 1:40am
4:05am NHL Ice Hockey Replay - was 4:00am

Post Mortem, Arrest and Trial and and Amputee Admirers will no longer be shown.

[Jules]

Originally posted by rychard
postcode EX7 0BJ
provider: terrestial aerial
programme: BBC2 - no programmes shown for Tuesdays - only the generic BBC2 2-hour slots starting at 2:00 am and ending at 12:am
this has been going on since the software update finally got to me.
BBC2 is my favourite channel, too!

My postcode is TN5, and I've been suffering from this problem on Mondays too (for the last 3 weeks). Please sort it out!

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Richardr
C5 reschedules to put a film against the football and this is not on TIVO.

Per Radio Times C5 tonight is:

8:00pm Film: Airspeed


Didn't know about the fooltball, but I was just going to mention this Film.

TWAD, WF1.

[dallardice]

Channel 4 104
Sky Digital
N1
Monday 6 May - Friday 10 May
"V Graham Norton"

This programme is being listed on TiVo as a one-off, repeated each day. It is actually a nightly series. At present TiVo does not offer the opportunity to Book a Season Pass, and an AR Wishlist will not record the programmes from Tue - Fri.

[bounderboy]

Postcode: ST5
Service Provider: ITV Digital
Channel Name: Channel 5
Channel Number: 5
Prog Name: 5th Gear
Time/Date of Airing: Mondays 8pm, repeated Tuesday 7.30pm

Program descriptions not changed for two weeks. Resulted in recording not being scheduled as it thinks its the same episode it has already recorded.

[JonMace]

Postcode: BR3
Service Provider: ntl:home
Channel Name: Sky one
Channel Number: 30
Prog Name: Stargate SG-1
Time/Date of Airing: weekdays 11.30am

Appearing as 1st run when the episodes are very old repeats

[mouseymousey]

Postcode: RG1
Service Provider: ntl digital
Channel Name: Channel 5
Channel Number: 105
Prog Name: 5th Gear
Time/Date of Airing: 7th May 7pm

Duration is listed as 35 minutes, should be 30.

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
Service Provider: SkyD
Channel Name: Bravo
Channel Number: Erm
Prog Name: Babylon 5
Time/Date of Airing: 8pm weekdays

Supposed to have recorded B5, actually got some combat gameshow. TiVo guide data is showing B5 every night at 3pm/8pm/5am; DigiGuide shows only 3pm/5am. Bravo website seems to be wrong!

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
Service Provider: SkyD
Channel Name: Sky Sports 3
Channel Number: 403
Prog Name: Ford Rugby Union Live
Time/Date of Airing: 7.30pm Friday 3rd May

An additional live rugby game (Leeds vs Harlequins) is not showing on TiVo.

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
Service Provider: SkyD
Channel Name: CBeebies
Channel Number:
Prog Name: All
Time/Date of Airing: All

Still no proper episode data, so SPs don't work properly.

Dear US listing chums - CBeebies is a major channel from the BBC available FTA on all digital platforms. It is not an obscure minority channel. PLEASE get this sorted out!

[scoopuk]

Originally posted by sanderton
Dear US listing chums - CBeebies is a major channel from the BBC available FTA on all digital platforms. It is not an obscure minority channel. PLEASE get this sorted out!

Umm, I'm sure the BBC would like to think that CBeebies is a "major channel" - but I think its pathetic ratings suggest it isn't - so far at least.

That's not to suggest that its season pass and EPG data shouldn't be sorted out of course. I thought the BBC was supposed to be committed to making TiVo listings work.

One "major channel from the BBC" is of course BBC Radio 4 - with its TV-style pre-planned programme schedule. This should be a much higher priority for Tribune. Nearly ten million people tune in each week to Radio 4. That's about 20% of the UK adult population.

[mrtickle]

Quite. :(

[BobBlueUK]

Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Discovery / Discovery+1
Channel Number: 551 / 552
Prog Name: Lagos Airport

This series is incorrectly identified as a one-off documentary, rather than a series. Hence it is not currently possible to set a season pass for this program... :(

[sanderton]

Originally posted by scoopuk


Umm, I'm sure the BBC would like to think that CBeebies is a "major channel" - but I think its pathetic ratings suggest it isn't - so far at least.



Most 2-5 year olds can't work the ratings box, so that's not too suprising!

I think you'll find most housholds with toddlers + digital have it on a LOT!!!!

From Media Guardian:


One in 20 toddlers in multichannel homes is tuning in to CBeebies's repeats of Bob the Builder, Tweenies and Bill and Ben.

....

CBeebies, however, achieved a 4.6% share among its core audience of housewives with children.

The pre-school channel's figure was three times that of its closest comparable rival - Nick Jnr - which had a 1.7% share.

[LJ]

Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: 101 BBC1
Programme: Top of the Pops
Problem: TiVo keeps recording the Sunday morning repeat showing despite having recorded the first airing on Friday. Shouldn't the 28 day rule kick in?

[LJ]

Channel: BBC1
Time of airing: Sun 5/5 1:00pm
Programme: Afoot Again in the Past
Problem: Category is shown as 'Drama'. Something like 'Historical' would be closer.

[streaky]

Postcode: SS8
Provider: SKY Digital
Channel Name: QVC
Channel number: 630
Programme Name: Various
Time/Date of airing: various

Problem:

For the last 3 months all that has been displayed in the TV listings is QVC. This problem also occurs with all the other Shopping Channels apart from Bid-up TV. I have phoned customer services about this problem 4 times before. Each time a week has passed before the TV listings have been corrected, only for them to disapear a month later. The other-half is getting upset. When she is upset, I suffer
:mad:

Please somebody help me, and get these problems sorted once and for all :)

THX

[GarySargent]

Maybe we could put you out of your misery - I thought I watched some rubbish - geez! :D

[scoopuk]

Originally posted by sanderton



From Media Guardian:

CBeebies, however, achieved a 4.6% share among its core audience of housewives with children.

[/B]

I suppose a 4.6 share suggests that 95.4% of the "core audience of housewives with children" don't tune in.

Mind you I guess we could argue similar such points for many digital channels and we'd end up with hardly any listings. So CBeebies should have decent data ASAP.

But please let's have proper radio listings too.

[Tony Hoyle]

Service Provider: BBC
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 7
Prog Name: Robot Wars

Tivo is treating the first showing at 7pm and the Repeat at 1am as separate programs, so I am getting two recordings of the same programme each day.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by streaky

For the last 3 months all that has been displayed in the TV listings is QVC. This problem also occurs with all the other Shopping Channels apart from Bid-up TV. I have phoned customer services about this problem 4 times before. Each time a week has passed before the TV listings have been corrected,


WHAT?! Corrected?!?! They are supplying listings for QVC, even some of the time?


only for them to disapear a month later. The other-half is getting upset. When she is upset, I suffer
:mad:

Please somebody help me, and get these problems sorted once and for all :)
THX

No way will I help! If you're getting listings for QVC I want Radio 4 listings NOW! This really takes the biscuit. No more excuses, TiVo!

[GMC]

Tivo is scheduled to record the same episode of The Practice on BBC Choice twice because there is no episode title indicated although an identical plot synopsis is there in the guide.

Tivo still has no episode details for Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Lost World on SciFi thus it is attempting to record the same episode twice.

[andyjenkins]

Has anyone mentioned MotorsTV on SkyD? Sky's EGP has full listings, let Tivo simply does the "motorstv, motorstv, motorstv" thing.

[lisper]

Originally posted by GarySargent
Maybe we could put you out of your misery - I thought I watched some rubbish - geez! :D

Yep QVC still has no correct listings. For me, who's always trying to convince the wife that TIVO is so great, this is a pain (as we had a wishlist set up for Liz Earle !).

And before you all take the p*ss, TIVO has to cater for all tastes, not just those of us who watch Sport/BBC/SciFi etc, if it is truely to become a mass market system, which it is failing to do at the moment.

Mat

[scoopuk]

Originally posted by lisper


Yep QVC still has no correct listings. For me, who's always trying to convince the wife that TIVO is so great, this is a pain (as we had a wishlist set up for Liz Earle !).

And before you all take the p*ss, TIVO has to cater for all tastes, not just those of us who watch Sport/BBC/SciFi etc, if it is truely to become a mass market system, which it is failing to do at the moment.

Mat

Agreed, and Fashion TV is another "female-orientated" channel without listings

But surely if we're getting detailed data for obscure channels like Extreme Sports, S4C2 and Channel Health - surely it's time for a huge channel like Radio 4 FM to have proper listings. It can't be that hard. The BBC compile Radio 4's TV-type schedule weeks in advance and they wouldn't need updating as they hardly ever change at the last minute.

[irrelevant]

I would like to see Radio 4 listings as well. Radio 2 as well; they sometimes have good comedy shows :-)

Do we need the TiVo to detect radio, and not bother recording the video signal at all, thus saving disc space?

QVC - the TiVo recorded one show for me based on a keyword wishlist couple of weeks ago - except it wasn't what was in the listing. some makeup show instead of Buffy collectors stuff. What a disappointment!

[kitschcamp]

- DE74
- aerial and ntl:
- ITV Central
- 61 and 103
- All
- From 6am on Saturday 11th May
- Problem encountered

No guide data at all from this point forward for ITV Central via aerial or via ntl.

[Tom123]

Same goes for ITV Carlton/LWT via Sky

[barney]

WTF???

V Graham Norton
- B98
- Terestrial UHF (Sutton Coldfield Transmitter)
- C4
- 4
- V Graham Norton
- Nightly Mon-Fri from 13th May 11:05pm
-

Thanks for fixing the week 6th May, but the 13th may is really broken! The 13th may has two episodes listed (digiguide has one at 23:05) both are listed as "a chance to catch up" which is wrong. The eposide ID ends 000 which suggests a one off show, but IsEpisode is set to true, so only the first listing for 13th may will be picked up by a season pass

Following on, tuesday and wednesday have incorrect descriptions, IsEpisode true, but the episode number is wrong so they are not picked up by the season pass.
Thursday / Friday have IsEpisode False with an incorrect episode ID, but at least they are picked up by the season pass....

I think I've just gone mad...... wibble.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Tom123
Same goes for ITV Carlton/LWT via SkyITV listings will appear with the Monday night update!

[drider68]

Postcode: BS9 (but applies to all postcodes)
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Film Four +1
Channel Number: 324
Programme Name: All programmes whose listing coversthe time interval 06:00-07:00
Time/Date of airing: Every day
Problem encountered:

Background - Film Four +1 (FF+1) normally shows programmes an hour later than Film Four (FF). For example if a programme is on FF from 02:00 to 03:30, it will also be on FF+1 between 03:00 and 04:30.

The listing errors I am reporting concern those programmes where at least *part* of their transmission occurs on FF between 05:00 and 06:00. These programmes are listed on the Tivo as being shown on FF+1 an hour later, but in fact they are not shown on FF+1 at all.

For example the Tivo listings for 8 May 2002 show "The Blue Kite" on FF from 03:15 to 06:00. This is correct. However, the listings also show the same programme on FF+1 from 04:15 to 07:00. This is incorrect as the programme is *not* shown on FF+1. This is confirmed by the Sky Digital EPG.

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by ozsat
ITV listings will appear with the Monday night update!

You are joking, aren't you? We'll have no ITV details for this weekend? Jeez, it's not as if it's a two-bit channel that no-one watches.

[da33431]

Postcode: CR0 (but applies to all postcodes)
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Attheraces, The Racing Channel
Channel Number: 418, 410
Programme Name: Every programme
Time/Date of airing: Every day
Problem encountered: Attheraces has no programme data at all, whilst The Racing Channel is using the incorrect 'old' data that was correct before May 1st. In fact The Racing Channel is scheduled to show racetracks that are now on Attheraces plus the American racing now starts at 5pm but is still showing as starting at 6pm. I know attheraces has just started but a fix would be most helpful!

[doogie]

Postcode: G51 (but applies to all postcodes)
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Third Rock From The Sun
Time/Date of airing: 13:30,20:30 Daily
Problem encountered: The first season which Paramount are now running does not have any episode data available, therefore both the 13:30 and the 20:30 repeat are being recorded by a season pass.

[doogie]

Postcode: G51 (but applies to all postcodes)
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: UK Style
Channel Number: 148
Programme Name: Changing Rooms US: Trading Spaces
Time/Date of airing: 11:00 daily
Problem encountered: Episode data is listing this as programme Changing Rooms, episode "US: Trading Spaces" so the 28 day rule means this programme is only recorded once a month.

Digiguide lists this is a seperate programme title - "Changing Rooms US - Trading Spaces" and had episode specific data up until the start of this month.

[ArwelP]

Postcode: CW2
Service provider: ex-ITV Digital
Channel: ITV Sport Channel
Channel Number: 20
Problem: TiVo is showing programme schedule data for next week, despite the fact that the channel is closing down this weekend.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by ArwelP
Postcode: CW2
Service provider: ex-ITV Digital
Channel: ITV Sport Channel
Channel Number: 20
Problem: TiVo is showing programme schedule data for next week, despite the fact that the channel is closing down this weekend.[B]The reason being that ITV Sport Channel has released schedules for next week - but has not released any amendments to indicate it is closing.

Although a different department has confirmed the closure.

[grum]

- Postcode
- Service Provider: DTT (Pace FTA)
- Channel Name: Channel 4
- Channel Number: 4
- Programme Name: Channel 4 at the Races
- Time/Date of airing: 9,11,14,15th May 2002 1:35pm and 2:00pm
- Problem encountered: Categorised under Sports/Auto. It's HORSE racing...

[groovyclam]

Postcode: CW8 (but applies to all postcodes)
Service Provider: Sky Digital + Cable operators
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Graham Norton
Time/Date of airing: Saturday 21:00 and other times

The "Graham Norton" programme on E4 is incorrectly titled. The correct title is "E Graham Norton"

It is a companion show to the weeknightly "V Graham Norton" on Channel 4, showing the best bits of that programme from the last week.

"E Graham Norton" should also have its own season pass.

The *first Saturday* showing of "E Graham Norton" is a new episode and any further showings after the first Saturday show are repeats of that episode.

[bignoise]

Service Provider: NTL analogue cable
Channel Name: SCIEU
Channel Number: 03

Seems to be a hole in the guide data - after 'The Hunger' at 12.30am on Thu 23/5, the next programme is 'Black Jack' on SUNDAY 26/5 at 02:00am.

I assume this to mean no listings for Thursday, Friday, or Saturday..

[OG Quantum]

- Postcode b67
- Service Provider Sky Digital
- Channel Name E4
- Channel Number 205
- Programme Name Friends
- Time/Date of airing this week
- Problem encountered
Have set up a season pass to record 1st runs but it is recording most every episode. The ep shown at 9pm thursdays is a new ep and its corrisponding repeats. ER seems to be working as a 1st run...why not Friends?

[sanderton]

- Channel Name CBeebies
- Programme Name Tweenies
- Time Multiple

Firstly, CBeebies now seems to have largely fixed listings so the 28 day rule and season passes etc are now working - hurrah and thanks!

But, this good stuff stops abruptly on the 18th, with all listings thereafter back to the bad days of generic listings

Now it may well be the case that these are spaceholders that will be replaced with "real" listings later. Can anyone tell me if that's is the case? Does that happen with other programmes? Tribune chaps?

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Service Provider: ntl digital
Channel Name: ITV Sport Channel
Channel Number: 727

Today's schedule is completely wrong.

The play-off final programme is 12:30 to 16:00. TIVO has it as 14:00 to 17:00.

As a result most other programmes are wrong.

This is the final day of programming on this channel, a channel that I know has worked hard not to provide accurate listings to listings providers, so the differences are in keeping with the rest of its less than 10 months on air.

[mrtickle]

I tried to get listings for the ITV Sport Channel on the web. Drew a big blank. There were the times of a handful of the football matches on the main ITV website, but nothing more. The listings page on the ITV Sport Channel website said "coming soon"! As you say, they seem to have gone out of theiy way not to provide listings.

[jamesbeeston]

ITV Forumla 1. Why do they keep changing the title of the program. I had a keyword wishlist set to match on F1 but of course that's not working today because they've renamed it to "Formula One Racing". Can't they keep the title consistent? I should not have to setup two Season Passes or wishlists to capture both F1 and Formula One.

[kitschcamp]

Strange... For my region, ITV Central on ntl:, I've had a season pass for "Formula One Racing" since Melbourne, and it's worked for each race, including this one.

[leejordan]

- Postcode - TW1
- Service Provider - Telewest Active Digital
- Channel Name - BBC Choice
- Channel Number - 111
- Programme Name - Eastenders
- Time/Date of airing - 10pm 10th May 2002
- Problem encountered

This Progranne is a repeat of the Eastenders broadcast at 8pm earlier on the same evening.

Tivo did not recognise this and recorded this episode as well.

I can see that it will do the same next Friday if the listings do not change.

Lee Jordan

[mrtickle]

ITV1 Central on Sky is also correct with "Formula One Racing" season pass working ok. However there is no episode title for the highlights programme tomorrow night, and there usually is. Hmm.

[kitschcamp]

The Wednesday (iirc) repeat isn't flagged as a repeat, either.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Richardr
Postcode: AL3
Service Provider: ntl digital
Channel Name: ITV Sport Channel
Channel Number: 727

Today's schedule is completely wrong.This channel closed soon after the football programme

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Provider: Sky
Channel: 101 BBC1
Time of airing: Fri 10/05 9:30pm
Programme: Blackadder II
Problem: TiVo didn't record it because 'another showing was available within 28 days'. Radio Times says "Postponed from 26th April".

[leejordan]

- Postcode - TW1
- Service Provider - Telewest Active Digital
- Channel Name - CBBC
- Channel Number - 701
- Programme Name - The Ghost Hunter
- Time/Date of airing - 16/5/02 16.30
- Problem encountered

This excellent children's programme doesn't always have the correct episode name. Some are just titled 'The Ghost Hunter', whilst others have the correct title.

See 16/5/02 and 17/5/02.

Please correct.

Thanks,

Lee Jordan

[bsdnazz]

Postcode - TW5
Service Provider - Telewest Active Digital
Channel Name - BBCSTH
Channel Number - 101

Problem encountered

BBCSTH is not shown in the listings at all! This happened at the same time as the channel name was changed from BBCLDN to BBCSTH.

PLEASE CORRECT!

[dmchapman]

Originally posted by dmchapman
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: CBeebies
Channel Number: 622
Prog Name: All programs


A season pass for anything on Cbeebies records *all* episodes even though everything on the channel is repeated 3 times a day.

This has been reported here 2 months ago (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=381299&highlight=tweenies#post381299) and reported to CS a month ago.


This had got better *but* I noticed yesterday that my Tivo has all 6 episodes of the tweenes listed in the ToDo list for next Sat onwards (18th May)...

As usual, the BBC sites seems to have the correct data. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/daylist.cgi?service_id=4672&day=Saturday)

It is *always*:

9:00 Tweenies Ep1
9:40 Tweenies Ep2

13:00 Tweenies Ep1 *repeat*
13:40 Tweenies Ep2 *repeat*

17:00 Tweenies Ep1 *repeat*
17:40 Tweenies Ep2 *repeat*

As I say, it seemed ok for a week or so :-(

Darren

[GavinP]

- 00007 Post code (Milton Keynes)
- NTL (Local Area Feed - no decoder box used)
- QVC
- 53
- ALL LISTINGS INFO MISSING FOR OVER A WEEK

Please resolve ASAP as my other half is not happy.......

Thanks

Gavin

[irrelevant]

Quatermas Experiment apears in upcoming listings as just that on SKYCND but as Quatermas Xperiment on SKYCN2. Description is identical.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by dmchapman



As I say, it seemed ok for a week or so :-(

Darren

I asked about this a few days ago. I still live in hope that the episode data will be upgraded before we get to the 18th...

[panache_blues]

- Postcode: BS8
- Service Provider: Sky Digital
- Channel Name: Play UK
- Channel Number: 217
- Programme Name: Stella Street
- Time/Date of airing: 13th May (Late evening)
- Problem encountered: Tivo recorded the same episode of Stella Street twice.

Update: Tivo continues to record the same episode 2 or 3 times a night sometimes.

[groovyclam]

- Postcode - CW8
- Service Provider - SkyDigital
- Channel Name - British Eurosport
- Channel Number - 412
- Programme Name - Tennis
- Time/Date of airing - all May episodes and future

All the episodes of "Tennis" on Eurosport have the IsEpisode flag set to "true" so TiVo thinks every days' *new live* tennis is a repeat of yesterday's episode and so it doesn't record them under the 28 day rule.

*No episode* of Tennis on Eurosport is *ever* a repeat of a previous episode.

The IsEpisode needs to be set to "false" for *all* Tennis on Eurosport for now, and any listings in the future.

[npg]

- Postcode - LL77
- Service Provider - SkyDigital
- Channel Name - Channel 4
- Channel Number - 184
- Programme Name - V Graham Norton
- Time/Date of airing - 14/5

All this weeks episodes apart from last nights have an OAD of 7/5 , rather than being reported as new episodes.

Also, is there any chance that the Highlights show could be flagged as a seperate series? I record all of the weekday shows so don't need the highlights. The Sunday night highlights clashes with a repeat of another series (the Practice - BBC Choice) who's first play is on at the same time as time as V Graham Norton weekday editions. I can't set the Practice at a Higher level, otherwise I miss the Weekday Graham Norton, and I can't get the repeat either because the highlights interfere with the recording.

[AMc]

bsdnazz
- Postcode - TW5
Service Provider - Telewest Active Digital
Channel Name - BBCSTH
Channel Number - 101

Problem encountered

BBCSTH is not shown in the listings at all! This happened at the same time as the channel name was changed from BBCLDN to BBCSTH.

PLEASE CORRECT!

You need to go into the preferences set up and enable BBCLDN as a channel you receive. This was explained in the Tivo line up change message and a post in this forum but I missed it completely until I reread the Tivo message :rolleyes: .
I'm sure a more experienced user knows the exact menu sequence as I'm a bit new and don't remember the specifics. Got to say it was very surprising to see BBC1 disappear from the guide!

AMc

[MarkE19]

- Postcode: RM13
- Service Provider: DTT
- Channel Name: ITV1
- Channel Number: 3
- Programme Name: Helen West
- Time/Date of airing: 13th May 21:00 - 23:20
- Problem encountered: Tivo listing showed 1 programme 2hrs 20min. should have been:
21:00 - 22:00 Helen West (part 1)
22:00 - 22:20 ITN News
22:20 - 23:20 Helen West (part 2)

[kmusgrave]

Originally posted by MarkE19
[B22:20 - 23:20 Helen West (part 2) [/B]

Actually 22:2x - 23:25 :D

Kevin

[bardsm]

- Postcode: YO8
- Service Provider: DTT
- Channel Name: BBC Choice
- Channel Number: 7
- Programme Name: Robot Wars

BBC Choice (ITVDIGITAL) - Programme listings for all upcoming Robot Wars has the same title (heat 9......) Did have description for first episode far all upcoming shows, since new listings it has now changed to the above.

[andyjenkins]

- Postcode: MK6
- Service Provider: SkyDigital
- Channel Name: Channel 4
- Channel Number: 103
- Programme Name: V Graeham Norton
- Time/Date of airing: 14th May 2002
- Problem encountered: Programme not recorded due to "a recording existing in the last 28 days". This is a programme that's on 5 nights a week - so I expect it's got confused with Monday's nite "episode".

[groovyclam]

There have been several separate posts about "V Graham Norton" and "E Graham Norton" which I think have confused the Tribune people.

The *full* picture is:

"V Graham Norton" is on Channel 4 ( SkyDigital number 104 and cable and terrestrial )
It is a comedy/chatshow hosted by Graham Norton with different guests each day.
A *new* episode is on *every* weekday Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri.

An hour-long compilation of the best bits of the past week is shown early Monday morning on Channel 4. This show is also ( unfortunately ) called "V Graham Norton"

I think the only way to sort this is to flag every "V Graham Norton" on Channel 4 as a new episode ( since the early Monday best-of has the same title and isn't strictly a repeat of any particular episode )


Confusingly, this same hour-long best-of-the-week compilation is also shown on E4 ( SkyDigital 205 and cable ) but here it has been renamed to be "E Graham Norton"

This same show is repeated several times over the weekend. The *first* Saturday showing is the new/latest-highlights episode for the week just gone and any subsequent showings after that one are repeats of it.

So for "E Graham Norton" all episodes can be flagged as repeats of the episode shown *first* on Saturday.

I hope this clears things up for the Tribune people.

[Dunkwho]

- Postcode - LU6
- Service Provider - ITVDigital
- Channel Name - Channel 4
- Channel Number - 4
- Programme Name - Football Stories
- Time/Date of airing - 16/5/2 21.00

Shown as "Faking it" on tivo EPG, everywhere else has this time slot as "Football stories"

[groovyclam]

- Postcode - CW8
- Service Provider - SkyDigital
- Channel Name - British Eurosport
- Channel Number - 412
- Programme Name - Tennis ( French Open)
- Time/Date of airing - 27/5/02 onwards

Some episodes of the Tennis French Open are will not be recorded because TiVo says "another showing" is available within 28 days.

Please stop flagging Tennis as a season pass as it is just mucking up recordings. If you are interested in Tennis then you would want *every* Tennis programme on Eurosport.

*No* episodes are repeats of others, ever!

Even the highlights in the evening are not strictly a repeat of the whole live game earlier in the day - just a clipshow. If I got home to find TiVo had only recorded the highlights instead of the whole live match because it thought it was a season pass duplicate episode I would be very angry.

I repeat - stop flagging Tennis on British Eurosport as blocks of duplicate episodes!!!

[kmusgrave]

Originally posted by groovyclam
[BI repeat - stop flagging Tennis on British Eurosport as blocks of duplicate episodes!!! [/B]

In fact please stop the 28-day rule (or make it user controlled, as it causes more trouble than it fixes! :(

[scoopuk]

Postcode: N7
- Service Provider: Sky D
- Channel Name: BBC CHOICE
- Channel Number: 160
- Programme Name: Spooks
- Time/Date of airing: 21st May 23:00 - 24:00
- Problem encountered: Not sure if this is on or not.

TiVo and the Radio Times list James Nesbitt's Blazing Saddles, while the BBC What's on website and DigiGuide list a rather convenient repeat showing of the fab new BBC drama Spooks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/daylist.cgi?service_id=4288&day=Tuesday

[kitschcamp]

- DE74
- ntl:
- Channel 4
- 104
- Big Brother
- Various times, but every day from 24th May
- It's planning to record the two episodes on 24/5 (9pm and 11:35) which is correct, and after that it's recording 26th May at 10pm and then they are all down as being repeats making a season pass not work, even if it's priority one on the list (for testing purposes only).

[mrtickle]

I don't think that 23:35 episode on 24th on C4 is correct, actually. Digiguide has that as "Big Brother Live", which is a different programme (ie the live coverage blocks)

[earthling]

Telewest Active Digital
Channel 4
104
Big Brother
The season pass for Big Brother (C4) is only going to record ONE episode every TWENTY-EIGHT DAYS!

Tribune, can you alter the data urgently (before Friday) so each episode has a unique title of e.g. "Fri 24 May", "Mon 27 May", etc.

[adheyes]

Postcode: PR2
Service Provider: SkyDigital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: World Rally "Argentina"
Time/Date of airing: 18, 19, 20 May

Tribune have given each programme an identical description which means that only the first day's action will be recorded due to the 28 day rule.

It is not even a generic description; it is quite lengthy and even includes "action from the second day" on all programmes!

Now that Tribune have finally settled on the title of World Rally, can we work on the programme descriptions now please?

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by mrtickle
I don't think that 23:35 episode on 24th on C4 is correct, actually. Digiguide has that as "Big Brother Live", which is a different programme (ie the live coverage blocks)

Looks like we can summarise Big Brother as all wrong except for the very first episode, then... Wonderful. And there was me thinking how much easier it was going to be to set up than last year.

[LJ]

Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: 101 BBC1
Programme: Top of the Pops
Problem: TiVo keeps recording the Sunday morning repeat showing despite having recorded the first airing on Friday. Shouldn't the 28 day rule kick in?

Come on Tribune - this is the third time I've posted this one!!

[mrtickle]

I think it must be on the same low-priority list that Liquid News is on then, which I've been reporting with the same problem since February.

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
Service Provider: SkyDigital
Channel Name: MTV
Channel Number: ???
Programme Name: The Osbournes
Time/Date of airing: 19 May 22.30

This was cancelled and did not in fact show, and will instead start next Sunday. Please make sure if you correct the episode details that you do so in such a way as next Sunday's still records, instead of thinking it's allready got episode 1 yesterday.

If you see what I mean...

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
- DE74
- aerial and ntl:
- ITV Central
- 61 and 103
- All
- From 6am on Saturday 11th May
- Problem encountered

No guide data at all from this point forward for ITV Central via aerial or via ntl.

Same problem, again, this week from Saturday 25th May. No ITV Central listings available for this weekend. I'll only notice this once every two weeks due to something on on Saturday and Sunday of both those weekends...

[mrtickle]

After last night's call, I still have no listings for ITV1 Central after Fri 24th. That's only 3 days left until the listings run out completely...

[kitschcamp]

It's starting to become a real pain - is it only Central that is affected, or is it a general ITV problem? I don't know if it also happened last week, as there wasn't a Grand Prix last weekend.

[Tom123]

No listings for Carlton/LWT either, so it's probably a general ITV-prob. Really annoying!

[groovyclam]

Still no Granada here either

[kitschcamp]

ITV Central finally downloaded last night, thankfully.

[Phil B]

- NG2
- aerial
- BBC2
- 64
- All
- Wed 22 May
- No data for all 24 hours today, apart from 2 hour slots, although successful phonecall this morning. Preceding and following days appear ok.

[ArwelP]

- CW2
- aerial
- BBC2
- 62
- "Homeground"
- Thu 23 May, 1930.
- TiVo's programme description:
"York's Oriental Express" (2002) A documentary about New York's luxury train service. W/S. (CC,Stereo)"

DigiGuide's programme description:
"A programme following a bullet train on its 10,000 mile journey from Japan to the National Railway Museum in York".
-- which strikes me as a much more accurate description!

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Big Brother's Little Brother
Time/Date of airing: various

Problem: IsEpisode set to false, so duplicates are being set to record.



Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: C4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Big Brother's Little Brother
Time/Date of airing: Fri 31st May 18:30

This is set with IsEpisode True flags, unlike the series with the same name on E4. Good, thanks! Please make sure this continues :).



Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: C4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Big Brother
Time/Date of airing: Fri 31st May 18:30

Looks ok. Many thanks for the effort with episode names and flags so that duplicates aren't recorded. Again please make sure this continues :).

[earthling]

Telewest Active Digital
Paramount Comedy Channel (Digital) PARCOM
Seinfeld

Because there is no episode title information TiVo always records the evening episode AND the early morning repeat of the SAME episode. Grr.

[mrtickle]

Continuing my search for the saddest correction so far :)...

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky News
Channel Number: 501
Programme Name: PMQs
Time/Date of airing: Wed 29th May 14:30 & Wed 5th June 14:30

Problem: There will be no Prime Minister's Questions on the two above dates and so this programme won't be on either! Something else should be in the schedules in its place.

Digiguide is wrong as well, looks like poor data supplied by Sky.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by mrtickle
Continuing my search for the saddest correction so far :)...

Do you actually have a life? Just wondered! :D

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: ntl:home
Channel Name: BBC1 LDN / BBC2
Channel Number: 101 / 102
Programme Name: Tennis
Time/Date of airing: Saturday 1 June 14:35 (BBC 1)
Sunday 2 June 16:45 (BBC2)

These are shown in the description as the Womens final and the Mens final respectively at the French Open tennis. In fact the finals are a week later, so these will just be normal games.

Note the error comes from the BBC provided listings, and are even wrong in the PR gumph they send listing providers.

The tennis continues during the whole of the next week (on British Eurosport during the week).

The real womens final will be on BBC2 the following Saturday (8th June) at 13:50, the Mens Final the day after.

[Brangdon]

Postcode: NG11
Provider: NTL
Channel: E4
Programme: Big Brother Live
Time/Date: pretty much all the time

Big Brother Live is on more or less continuously during the day, and is generally divided into 4 hour programme blocks. Can we have it in 1-hour blocks instead, please? That way we can catch odd hours with less chance of clashes with other programmes.

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by kitschcamp


Same problem, again, this week from Saturday 25th May. No ITV Central listings available for this weekend. I'll only notice this once every two weeks due to something on on Saturday and Sunday of both those weekends...

DE74
ntl: & terrestrial
ITV Central

Same again this week - no ITV Central listings from Saturday 6am on 1st June onwards. We are down to 5 days listings, again. We do have listings for all the rest of the major channels. This is turning into a weekly event.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
Same again this week - no ITV Central listings from Saturday 6am on 1st June onwards. We are down to 5 days listings, again. We do have listings for all the rest of the major channels. This is turning into a weekly event.It is a weekly event - the new BBC and ITV schedules normally download over Saturday and Sunday - and they have again this week. The ITV schedules are in the Sunday update as usual.

Occasionally you have to wait until Monday night.

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by ozsat
It is a weekly event - the new BBC and ITV schedules normally download over Saturday and Sunday - and they have again this week. The ITV schedules are in the Sunday update as usual.

Occasionally you have to wait until Monday night.

For the last month it's been Tuesday or Wednesday before they arrive.

[Adlopa]

Postcode: N21
Provider: Telewest Active Digital
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Programme Name: Seinfeld
Time/Date of airing: Ongoing

Since switching to TW:AD a few weeks ago, I've had no programme data for Seinfeld and as a consequence, TiVo is recording every episode. As each one is repeated ad nauseum on Paramount Comedy, at various hours, this is v.annoying.

[JohnMalone]

Postcode WR14
Service Provider - aerial only
Channel Name BBC 2 (channel 40) and Channel 5 (37)

I have no programme information for Channel 5 today, and none for BBC 2 on Wednesday.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Banzai
Time/Date of airing: Sun 2nd June 23:05

Problem: I have a Season Pass for Banzai on C4, but the "Jubilee Special" seems to be part of a different series on C4 also called Banzai?!.
Ie it doesn't appear in the View Upcoming list from the Banzai on C4 Season Pass, and has to be scheduled manually.


Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Banzai
Time/Date of airing: Sun 9th June 23:00

Problem: It's messed up on E4 as well! I have a Season Pass for Banzai on E4, but the Jubilee Special is entered as a separate programme called "Banzai Jubilee Special" and so doesn't get picked up by the SP.

[dsloper]

Postcode: GL1
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky1
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: Dark Angel
Time/Date of airing: Mon 3rd June 21:00

Problem: Tivo has a tyson/lewis program instead of Dark Angel series finale. Both sky EPG and digiguide all have Dark angel.

[DaveP]

Postcode: OX16
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Bargain Hunt
Time/Date of airing: 11:30am Tuesday 28th May 2002

Tivo refused to record this because it thought that a repeat had been recorded within the 28 days rule.

This is always happening with this program because they visit the same fairs several times so it says, for instance, Wetherby. Tivo seems to assume that the next time they go to Wetherby it is a repeat and, of course, it's not! This also happens on UK Style.


Can you fix this please before my wife throws the Tivo out with the used kitty litter!

TIA

DaveP

[groovyclam]

Postcode: CW8
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup) and all other platforms
Channel Name: Channel5
Channel Number: 105
Programme Name: Tim Marlow on Tate Modern
Time/Date of airing: 7:00pm 31st May 2002

This episode and future episodes are not being picked up by a season pass as they are all flagged as the same episode.

They are in fact all different episodes of the series.

[Tuesnightspecial]

Postcode: OX4
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Ed
Time/Date of airing: 28/29 May 2002

I have a season pass for Ed.

TiVo recorded monday's ep but was not going to record todays (Tues) and Weds eps, but every one since then is set to autorecord.

With no clashes and different ep descriptions, I am at a loss to explain this.

[Szlater]

Source: Telewest Active Digital
Channel: Discovery Home & Leisure
Post Code: CR7

I've noticed a strange problem with the guide data for Discovery Home & Leisure. The guide data lists a channel sign off at midnight (for the next two weeks), but the channel actually keeps broadcasting 24-7. There are a couple of shows I like (Supermodels and ModelMania) that get late night repeat airings which I would like to record to avoid scheduling conflicts with shows on during the afternoon.

I looked a little further ahead in the guide, and it starts showing the full guide data (24-7 schedule) in about 2 weeks time.

Rather peculiar if you ask me...

[Dave Marley]

Postcode: RH1
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: MTVUK
Channel Number: 440
Programme Name: The Osbournes
Time/Date of airing: 29 May 2002 10pm

TiVo has Dismissed from 10-11pm.

Both Sky and Digiguide have The Osbournes from 10-10:30 and Dismissed only from 10:30-11pm.


Postcode: RH1
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: MTVUK
Channel Number: 440
Programme Name: The Osbournes
Time/Date of airing: 31 May 2002 10pm

TiVo has:
Jackass 10-10:30pm
Jackass 10:30-11
Dismissed 11-12

Sky and Digiguide have:
The Osbournes 10-10:30pm
Jackass 10:30-11:30
Dismissed 11:30-12

Both episodes of The Osbournes seem to be repeats of Sunday's episode.

[dmchapman]

Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: CBeebies
Channel Number: 622
Prog Name: Tweenies


A season pass for the tweenies (and other programs?) on Cbeebies records *all* episodes even though everything on the channel is repeated 3 times a day.

This has been reported here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=381299#post381299) 3 months ago and reported to CS 2 months ago.

It was also reported here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=495619#post495619)

Please can this be fixed permanently? It did seem to improve for a couple of days :-( Everything on Cbeebies is repeated 3 times a day - the pattern is always the same. Surely this shouldn't take 3 months to sort out?

Darren

[Paj]

Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Prog Name: Johhny Vaughan's World Cup Extra

The BBC Choice showings have been assigned individual titles depending on the day of broadcast (June 4, June 5 etc). The BBC1 showings are just repeats of that day's episiode, but have a generic title with isepisode set to true. A Season Pass will therefor not record them due to the 28 day rule.

Can they be given the same titles as their BBC Choice counterparts please?

[ray951]

Provider: NTL Digital
Location: SP10
Channel: Discovery Hame & Leisure
Channel Number: 304.
This was showing yesterday as close down at 4pm when in fact it is a 24 hour channel.
I haven't checked the guide for other days.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of airing: Sun 2nd June 18:30

This episode, "Treehouse of Horror XI" is marked as a "First Run" in the guide data by mistake - it is old. Its real UK OAD is 7th Feb 2001. It's not a new episode.

[deshepherd]

Postcode: BS6
Provider: Telewest Active Digital
Channel: BBC Radio 4 (904) !
Program: I'm sorry I haven't a clue
Date; Monday 6:30 and Sunday 12:30

Sunday broadcast is a repeat of the Monday one (this, I think, always applies to the progs in these slots), however TiVo recorded both .... plus due to my new ISIHAC season pass going in at #1 meant I nearly missed the Monaco GP despite having already heard ISIHAC on Monday

[irrelevant]

Channel 4 10.05 - 10.40.
Daisy Daisy was replaced tonight by Big Brother's Little Brother
(I'm glad tivo had dropped out to live tv just beforehand!)
This weeks to be shown next week instead. Presume there will be corresponding knock-on next week.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Szlater
Source: Telewest Active Digital
Channel: Discovery Home & Leisure
Post Code: CR7

I've noticed a strange problem with the guide data for Discovery Home & Leisure. The guide data lists a channel sign off at midnight (for the next two weeks), but the channel actually keeps broadcasting 24-7. There are a couple of shows I like (Supermodels and ModelMania) that get late night repeat airings which I would like to record to avoid scheduling conflicts with shows on during the afternoon.

I looked a little further ahead in the guide, and it starts showing the full guide data (24-7 schedule) in about 2 weeks time.

Rather peculiar if you ask me... It seems to correct itself from 1st June - odd!!

[Richardr]

Provider: ntl:home
Location: AL3
Channel: Sky Sports News
Channel Number: 812

Programme title: World Cup Report

This programme is on every half hour.

I looked at setting a low priority season pass, with keep only one episode, so that if no other season pass is being recorded I get the latest episode of this report.

However, it will not allow season passes. I assume because it has no description, but isepisode=true.

Can this be changed?

[cwaring]

Provider: Telewest
Location: WF1
Channel: LivingTV
Channel Number: 252
Programme Title: "Will & Grace : Inside Out"
Date: Sunday 9th June 2002
Time: 18:00
Duration: 30 minutes

The EPG currently lists this as a standard episode of the sitcom, with generic programme info (ie not specific to ep shown) but DigiGuide and the CableGuide site - I think they use DG listings though - both list it as a repeat of the Saturday 20:30 "behind the scenes" programme. Not sure who is right :D

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Big Brother's Little Brother
Time/Date of airing: Fridays 18:30 and Sundays 13:35


Big Brother's Little Brother is mainly an E4 programme but there are also two extra broadcasts each week on Channel 4. These are both new "episodes" - the current TiVo guide data has flagged Sunday's as being a repeat of Friday's, which is wrong.

Neither of the C4 showings are ever repeated from what I can tell (unlike the broadcasts on E4 which do have repeats scheduled and correctly flagged - thanks for fixing those BTW).

Edit: According to the Radio Times "late changes" page (http://www.radiotimes.com/content/schedule_updates/) there is now a repeat of the Friday BBLB tomorrow at 01:15)

[Foxxie]

Postcode: SN3
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Brookside Omnibus
Time/Date of airing: 1705 - 1830/Saturday, 01/06/2001


TiVo did not pick up my season pass for the 'Brookside Omnibus' as it was billed as 'Brookside' - this is not the first time this has happened.

[JohnMalone]

Postcode WR14
Service Provider aerial
Channel Name Channel 4 (50) and Channel 5 (37)
I have no programme information on Channel 5 tomorrow, and none for Channel 4 on Wednesday.

[cwaring]

Postcode: WF1
Provider: Telewest Digital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104 / RF 41
Programme Name: Third Watch
Date of airing: 01/06/2001
Problem: (Year) is incorrect. This is Season 2, 2000/2001, not 2002.

http://www.epguides.com/ThirdWatch/

[LJ]

It's Sunday morning *yawn*... Guess what that means... Oh! Look! TiVo's recorded the repeat of Top of The Pops again! :rolleyes:

Hint: TOTP is a new programme every Friday, repeated early on Sunday.

*wanders off muttering* I know Tribune read this thread... I'm sure they do... somone said they do... didn't they?... :p

[Hornet]

- Postcode: NW2
- Service Provider:Telewest Digital
- Channel Name: History Channel
- Channel Number: 234
- Programme Name
- Time/Date of airing
- Problem encountered: Got a TiVo message today saying that the History Channel had been deleted.

The History channel is still live on Telewest Digital but has apparently stopped broadcasting on Telewest Analogue.

[ozsat]

History was removed by Telewest (digital and analogue) Friday - but came back later after a new deal was struck. It should be back on TiVo on Tuesday.

As a channel error - this should really be reported in TIVO CHANNEL LINE-UP - ERRORS (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29720)

[Mav]

Postcode: SK14
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 4
Programme Name: Brookside Omnibus
Time/Date of airing: 01/06/02
Problem encountered: Program was listed as "Brookside" instead of "Brookside Omnibus" so didn't get recorded!!

[Hornet]

Originally posted by ozsat
History was removed by Telewest (digital and analogue) Friday - but came back later after a new deal was struck. It should be back on TiVo on Tuesday.

As a channel error - this should really be reported in TIVO CHANNEL LINE-UP - ERRORS (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29720)


Ooops, didn't realise there was a separate thread.

Thanks,
Hornet.

[cwaring]

Postcode: WF1
Service Provider: Telewest Digital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104 / 41 RF

I have NO LISTINGS AT ALL for Channel 4 after 6am this Saturday, the 8th. I have checked all the way through to the 13th (Thursday) and there's nothing. All other channels OK. I'm wanting to set a SP for "Angel" @2230 but can't at the moment.

[jeremy Parsons]

Postcode: KT15
Service Provider: NTL digital
Channel Name: Sky 1
Channel Number: 30

Star Trek Enterprise show a show at 8:00PM , Sky adverts advertise it as showing at 9:00PM on monday 3rd June

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
Service Provider: SkyD
Channel Name: CBeebies, Nick Jr

These channels are a four hour (usually) repeated segment repeated over and over throughout the day. There is no episode data in the guide data so a SP or Wishlist records the same episode several times a day.

This was briefly fixed for CBeebies, but has now gone back to the bad old ways.

Tribune: you proved you could do it for about a fortnight; please try again!

(Even giving them dummy codes so that it would only try to record one a day would be good. I don't actually care what the episode is about!)

[cwaring]

Originally posted by jeremy Parsons
Postcode: KT15
Service Provider: NTL digital
Channel Name: Sky 1
Channel Number: 30

Star Trek Enterprise show a show at 8:00PM , Sky adverts advertise it as showing at 9:00PM on monday 3rd June

I think we can safely say that the on-screen times are wrong. the "Dark Angel" season finale is 90mins so there is no way it could be on 8-9pm.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by jeremy Parsons
Postcode: KT15
Service Provider: NTL digital
Channel Name: Sky 1
Channel Number: 30

Star Trek Enterprise show a show at 8:00PM , Sky adverts advertise it as showing at 9:00PM on monday 3rd June


EPG agrees with TiVo - 8pm -9pm

[jeremy Parsons]

Originally posted by jeremy Parsons
Postcode: KT15
Service Provider: NTL digital
Channel Name: Sky 1
Channel Number: 30

Star Trek Enterprise show a show at 8:00PM , Sky adverts advertise it as showing at 9:00PM on monday 3rd June

Skys advert (any me) was wrong Tivo and EPG were right sorry for the misunderstanding that will teach me to believe sky adverts

[jamesmoch]

- Postcode
MK4
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.)
NTL Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire
Basic(A) Service Package

- Channel Name

- Channel Number
24
- Programme Name
E4
- Time/Date of airing
Permanent Problem

- Problem encountered
All of my TiVo listings work fine with the Basic (A) Service Pack on
NTL Milton Keynes, Buckingamshire except channel 24.

NTL Channel 24 used to carry National Geographic (Reduced Service), for
a long time Channel 24 now carries E4 permanently.

Please can somebody update the system so that E4 is added
to the Milton Keynes, Bucks Basic(A) Pack in place of Nat Geographic which
is no longer carried on our cable network.

Presumably somebody can swap the channels over.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of airing: 17th June 23:00

It's happened again - this episode, "Skinner's Sense of Snow"
is marked as a "First Run" in the guide data but it's an old one. Its UK OAD is 11th Feb 2001.
It's not a new episode.

And again:
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of airing: 21st June 23:00

"Homer vs Dignity" is not a First Run.

Please can these be fixed - ta. :)

[nick.perry]

- Postcode: N16
- Service Provider: Telewest Active Digital (Cable London)
- Channel Name: Discovery (and +1)
- Channel Number: 213 (and 214)
- Programme Name: "Mend it Like Beckham"
- Time/Date of airing: 4 Jun 02 22:30 (and 23:30)
- Problem encountered: TiVo EPG shows "Stress Test", Telewest EPG (and trailers confirm) "Mend it Like Beckham"

[SDV]

Postcode: GL5
Provider: Sky Digital England
Channel Name: SCI-FI Channel
Channel Number: 130

Programme Name: "Supernova"
Date/Time: 11/6 11.50pm

The sky planner and Digiguide say this is supposed to be
"Lexx: Supernova".

This makes sense because "Lexx: I worship his shadow" and "Lexx: Eating pattern" are shown the week before and after.

TiVo thinks it's a two * film with James spader in.


EDIT: This is now fixed - Thanks :)

[Brownedger]

Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky Digital England
Channel Name: Radio FiveLive
Channel Number: 855

Programme Name: Up all Night
Date/Time: 9/06 01.00am to 05.00am

There is boxing on at 3.00am to 5.00am , Lennox Lewis v Mike Tyson.

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: ntl:home
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 301
Programme Name: In Sickness and in Health
Date/Time: daily from 10/6/02 at 8:30pm, repeated at 11:30pm

This repeat of the long running comedy series has every episode as the same description, first shown date, and isepisode=true, meaning that it can't be recorded as a season pass.

An episode guide, with dates is on the Granada Plus website (http://www.gplus.co.uk/listings/index.php3?Programme=In_Sickness_and_in_Health)

It should also be shown as a situation comedy, not a special.

[AlanH]

Postcode: BB
Provider :Aerial
Channel Name:BBC1NW
Programme: Eastenders
Dates 11/6, 13/6, 14/6 Evening

These episodes show the date as (1997) ? and are not picked up by the 1st run season pass.

Perhaps the guide data will be amended before next week, glad i spotted it or Tivo would have been in big trouble with the other half!

[UncUgly]

PostCode: SM7
Provider: Sky
Channel: SkyOne
Programme: Kirsty's Home Videos
Dates: 9/6/02

Can't book a Season Pass on this programme - probably, I guess, because there is no programme detail about them, ie no title etc etc - but Sky Advertise them as All New on Sunday

[SDV]

Postcode: GL5
Provider: Sky Digital England
Channel Name: Game Network
Channel Number: 223

Not really an error, but can we have it split into 1 hour chunks rather than 2 hour ones? Someone asked about a similar thing for big brother live.

I'd like to set it as a low season pass, but being split into 2 hour chunks means that I only get 3 recordings in about 3 weeks!

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Radio Four
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: Money Box
Time/Date of airing: see below

Problem 1: There are two different series both with the same name "Money Box" for Radio 4 - should be the same one.

The broadcast on Saturdays is repeated on Sundays, eg:
Sat 8th June 12:00-12:30
Sun 9th June 21:00-21:26

Notice that the repeat is 26 - not 25 or 30, but *26* - minutes long :D :D. Often the same episodes of other series can have different timeslots (eg on E4 with fluctuating 50/55 min slots) so it shouldn't be a problem.

Problem 2: There is a live edition on Mondays, eg:
Mon 10th June 15:00-15:00

This is in the guide as a different programme called "Money Box Live", this messes up a Season Pass :( It would be better to have it called "Money Box" with an episode title "Live edition" or similar.

Please can all three programmes be part of the same series (with the Sunday episodes marked as a repeat of the Saturday episodes) so that a Season Pass will work?

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: It's Your Money
Time/Date of airing: Sat 8th Jun 21:45, Sat 8th Jun 07:30, Sun 9th Jun 06:45

Again there are two series with the same title. Please can they be merged.