ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: BBC2SE
Channel Number: 63
Prog Name: Farscape
Time/Date of Airing: 18:00 24/01/02 (Yes, there's an episode on Thursday!)
Problem: Description shown is the same as the episode on Monday 21/01.

[LJ]

Just noticed TiVo decided to record two and a half hours of this for me:

Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: C4
Channel Number: 53
Prog Name: 4learning
Time/Date of Airing: 09:30 18/01/02
Problem: Description shown is "For 4Learning Information please refer to the sheet at the back of the Programme Summaries" ;)

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Service Provider: Sky
Chanel Name: Digital Classics TV
Channel Number: 464
Prog Name: Brahms and the little singing girls
Time/Date of Airing: 20:00 18/1/2002

The above programme in TIVO's guide was not part of the channel's schedule.

TIVO had:

7:45pm Free View
8:00pm Brahms (as above)
9:30pm Concert 2001

Actual Schedule was:

7:45pm Classic Collection: Chopin - A Collection
9:00pm Concert 2001

[rjlawson]

- BS32
- Sky Digital
- Sky Premiere
- 301
- Stuart Little
- 20/1/02 21:00
- Problem encountered:
This actually started at 20:45, so I missed the first 15 minutes. This also happened the last time I tried to record it, but I've just realised why! Thought Sky Prem didn't ever start films early. Both the Sky EPG & Digiguide had it right.

Ric :-(

[BrianHughes]

Postcode: BT15 5DZ
Service Provider: NTL Digital Cable
Chanel Name: UTV
Channel Number: 103
Prog Name: Bloody Sunday
Time/Date of Airing: 21:30

The guide had:
21:30 Chris Tarrent on CCTV
22:00 Bloody Sunday

Actual broadcast was:
21:30 Bloody Sunday
23:30 Chris Tarrent on CCTV

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Chanel Name: Sky Sports 2
Channel Number: 402
Prog Name: All
Time/Date of Airing: Sunday 27th

All data missing - jumps from Saturday night 11.59 to Monday morning 00.01.

[bwright]

Postcode: SR8
Provider: ITV Digital
Channel Name: Sky ONE
Channel Number: 26
Programme Name: Sliders
Time/Date of airing: Weekdays at 16:00

The actual programme on the ITV digital version of Sky ONE is The Pretender.

[LJ]

Originally posted by LJ
Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: aerial
Chanel Name: BBC2SE
Channel Number: 63
Prog Name: Farscape
Time/Date of Airing: 18:00 24/01/02 (Yes, there's an episode on Thursday!)
Problem: Description shown is the same as the episode on Monday 21/01.

Now both descriptions for this week have changed to "Lambs to the slaughter", which is half of the title for this Thursday's episode! Also the title for Monday 28th's episode is wrong - they should be:

Tonight's: "I - Yensch, You - Yensch"
Thursday 24th: "Into the Lion's Den, Part One: Lambs to the Slaughter."
Monday 28th: "Into the Lion's Den, Part Two: Wolf In Sheep's Clothing"

[rjlawson]

- BS32
- Sky Digital
- CH4
- 104
- HollyOaks Indecent Behaviour
- 23/1/02 23:05
- Problem encountered:
This lasts 1hr35, not 35 minutes as it's showing in the guide data.

Ric :-)

[GaryM]

Postcode: CT18
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: Stargate SG1
Time/Date of airing: 30 Jan 6pm and 8pm

The new episode at 8pm is showing the same name and description ("Within the serpents grasp") as the old episodes at 6am and 6pm and is not being selected for recording by my season pass.

[LJ]

Anyone else noticed holes in the terrestrial data for this and next week, or is it just me? I've got the two hour filler slots for these channels:

60 ITV1CAR: Tuesday 29th

63 BBC2SE: Saturday 26th (tomorrow!), Sunday 27th, Thursday 31st and Friday 1st Feb.

53 C4: Monday 28th, Thursday 31st and Friday 1st Feb.

The days either side of those dates have programme data. :confused: :confused: :confused:

[ReHaB]

- Postcode.................. SA15
- Service Provider ...... SKY
- Channel Name.......... History channel
- Channel Number......561
- Programme Name..... The true story of blackhawk down
- Time/Date of airing... 26/01/2002 9pm
- Problem encountered ...Tivo started to record at 7pm as is stated in it's listing :(

[H]

KT6, Analogue Telewest Cable.
Channel 55, E4.

Please, please, please, please take note that Telewest start E4 coverage at 4pm and not 2pm like everyone else!!! I get a daily recording of Star Trek from 2pm who is just ads for Telewest's dodgy Front Row.

[biltonl]

KT6
aerial
Channel 4
30
Hollyoaks : Indecent Behaviour
11pm 22/1/02

Said that the program ended at 11.35 but it should have been an hour so my recording ended abruptly half way through.

[craigw]

- RH4
- Sky Digital
- BBC1 (Eng)
- 101
- BBC News
- 27/1/2002
- Noticed that it said for the program description: BBC One joins the BBC's rolling news channel for a night of news.....

Reference to their overnight transmission of BBC News 24

Craigw

[craigw]

Another one...

Just spotted that Thursdays episode of Grange Hill on BBC1 is spelt 'Grainge Hill'

Craigw

[Johnny_boy]

- Postcode.................. EH7
- Service Provider ...... Telewest
- Channel Name.......... BBC2SCD
- Channel Number......102
- Programme Name..... Saturday afternoon and evening, sunday 10.30pm
- Time/Date of airing... various
- Problem encountered ...2 hour slots all Saturday afternnon showing the description BBC2 on BBC2, no programme info whatsoever. Perfect starnagers was not listed at 9pm on Saturday nor for 10.30 pm Sunday where it ws decribed onscreen as "film". I had to set a manual recordings for Saturday.

Also had problem with Black Hawk Down not being recorded due to TiVo starting 2 hours early. This is reported by ReHaB.

This was the worst I've ever seen the TV guide for inaccuracy it was unusable as it stood.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Faking It
Time/Date of airing: 30th Jan 21:00, 6th Feb 21:00, 7th Feb 12:25, 13th Feb 21:00, 14th Feb 12:55
Problem: There are 5 episodes in the guide at the moment but they all have an identical synopsis, referring to the episode where the nightclub dancer has to ride a horse. They need to be either correct to the correct episodes or replaced with a generic synopsis.

"Correct" synopses:
30th Jan 21:00
"Softly spoken Gavin swaps rural Irish life for the hectic streets of London to see if he can 'fake it' as a top-class hairdresser. The closest he has ever come to hairdressing is a stint at sheep-shearing as part of his agricultural degree"

6th Feb 21:00, 7th Feb 12:25
"In just one month Kasper Cornish, a mild-mannered ballet dancer from London must transform himself into a plausible, nasty, aggressive wrestling bad-boy"

[Perrin21]

This programme has the same information for all upcoming episodes.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Frank Skinner Show
Time/Date of airing: multiple

Background: on Dec 30th 2001, a whole month ago now, I posted giving details of the problem that every episode has an identical synopsis. The synopsis also describes the wrong guests (aka "describes the wrong epsiode").

scoopuk then posted some more info for Tribune to use:

Checkout: www.paramountcomedy.co.uk
for the full details. Indeed Tribune should cross-check with this site more often, it has full schedules with detailed descriptions for weeks ahead.


Problem: the problem is that this has still not been fixed, and should not take this long to fix. The corrections were spoon-fed, what more can we do? :(

[scoopuk]

I can't understand it either.

TiVo as a system is superb, probably the best £400 I've ever spent. But the programme data is sometimes appauling. We post here, after both Tivo and Tribune both say it's useful for corrections, but this type of problem is never sorted out.

To be honest I'm not sure what the point of this thread is.

If people just want to winge about previous guide data errors, great but it often gets us nowhere (see above).

I've tried to post future inaccuracies that I've spotted, in the hope it'll help others, or Tribune will fix them. But it never happens.

Still a huge TiVo fan though.

[dallardice]

Sky Digital
N1
BBC Knowledge (573) and BBC Choice (160)
Daytime programmes from Monday 11 February.

On 11/2 the BBC launches its new Childrens' channels, CBeebies and CBBC. They will take new Channel numbers in the 600s.

From that date BBC Knowledge and BBC Choice on their existing channel numbers will begin broadcasting daily at 7pm.

TiVo currently reports normal BBCK programming during daytimes on 573 (which will not be shown) and existing "CBBC on Choice" programmes during the day on 160 (which may be correct, but even if so, will be broadcast on a different channel number).

Digiguide has accurate programmes for 160 and 573 but does not yet have programme details for the childrens channels.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Classic Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: Guide data is screwed up again - still hasn't been right since Christmas :(

In the table below, the Original Air Dates and episode numbers come from
the fan site www.corrie.net, and the maintainer of that site gets info
direct from Granada (as with other info on that site eg press releases).
The synopses from the web, digiguide and the Sky EPG all match.


EpNo. Original Air Date G+ showing will be: TiVo synopsis: Comments
2970 Wed 13th Sep 1989 4th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2975 TiVo wrong
4th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2975 TiVo wrong
4th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2975 TiVo wrong
2971 Mon 18th Sep 1989 5th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2971 TiVo ok
5th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2971 TiVo ok
5th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2971 TiVo ok
2972 Wed 20th Sep 1989 6th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2972 TiVo ok
6th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2972 TiVo ok
6th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2972 TiVo ok
2973 Mon 25th Sep 1989 7th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2968 TiVo wrong
7th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2968 TiVo wrong
7th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2968 TiVo wrong
2974 Wed 27th Sep 1989 8th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2969 TiVo wrong
8th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2969 TiVo wrong
8th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2969 TiVo wrong
n/a 10th Feb 2002 15:00 Generic Omnibus TiVo ok
2975 Mon 2nd Oct 1989 11th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2975 TiVo ok
11th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
11th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
2976 Wed 4th Oct 1989 12th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
12th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
12th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
2977 Mon 9th Oct 1989 13th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
13th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
13th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
2978 Wed 11th Oct 1989 14th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
14th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
14th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
2979 Mon 16th Oct 1989 15th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
15th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
15th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
n/a 17th Feb 2002 15:00 Generic Omnibus TiVo ok
2980 Wed 18th Oct 1989 18th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2975 TiVo wrong
18th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong
18th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong

[AENG]

SG17
BBC Knowledge, Ch13
ITV Digital/Aerial

Tuesday 29 Jan 11:50 p.m.

Recorded (according to EPG) : "Blimey"
Found on disk: "American Visions" (as billed in RT, 26 Jan/1 Feb)

Friday 1 Feb 7:20 p.m.

Recorded (according to EPG) : "Travels With Pevsner"
Found on disk: part of "John Betjeman: the Last Laugh" again as billed in RT 26 Jan/1 Feb

[scoopuk]

Originally posted by mrtickle
Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Classic Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: Guide data is screwed up again - still hasn't been right since Christmas :(



And here's the link for the programme details direct from Granada:

http://www.gplus.co.uk/listings/index.php3?Programme=Classic_Coronation_Street

[eric23]

Postcode: BN2
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Chanel Name: PLYUK
Channel Number: 217
Prog Name: Boy George: Icons / Boy George: One on One
Time/Date of Airing: Sunday 3rd February 2002

12:30 show is repeated at 20:30. TiVo picks both up thinking they are different episodes.

[eric23]

(Sorry, forgot to add that this series is shown every Sunday at the same times)

[eric23]

Postcode: BN2
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Chanel Name: LIVING
Channel Number: 112
Prog Name: "Golden Girls" and "Will & Grace"
Time/Date of Airing: Ongoing

Episodes of the Golden Girls are shown at the beginning of the week and repeated again at the weekend. TiVo picks both up despite the prog data being identical and accurate.

Same with Will & Grace on Living. Shown on Wednesdays and repeated on Sundays.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by scoopuk


And here's the link for the programme details direct from Granada:

http://www.gplus.co.uk/listings/index.php3?Programme=Classic_Coronation_Street

Ta for that, always nice to have an official source :).

I did go through them again last night, but couldn't get on here to post an updated list. Tribune has fixed the 3 episodes for this week that were wrong.
But the 11th onwards are still wrong - and in a familiar pattern, the wrong repeating description has changed to a different wrong repeating description, with some of the episodes that were correct being made wrong as well :(

[AENG]

SG17
ITV Digital/Aerial
BBC Knowledge Ch13
Monday 4 February 6:40 p.m.
Science Shack

EPG episode description refers to Lightning Protection (as did RT for 2-8 February)

Actually recorded: Episode on flies walking on ceilings (really!).
This was presumably either late or missing notification from broadcaster.

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Service Provider: Terrestial Analogue
Channel Name: ITV1CEN (ITV1 Central)
Channel Number: 61
Prog Name: Many
Time/Date of Airing: Various

It appears that the listings that were updated over the weekend for ITV1 Central are in fact from ITV1 Granada's data. The following are the errors I have noticed, but there may be many others:

Sat 09/02/02
1235-1240 Granada News and Weather
1705-1720 Granada News and Weather

Sun 10/02/02
1705-1715 Granada News and Weather
2320-2330 Granada News and Weather

Mon 11/02/02 through to Fri 15/02/02 inclusive
1515-1525 Granada News and Weather
1800-1830 Granda Reports
2320-2330 Granada News and Weather (not Tue 12/02/02 or Thu 15/02/02)

All of the above should be Central News and Weather (or slight variants of that title).

Also:

Sun 10/02/02
1400-1630 Soccer Sunday: Man City vs Preston

This should be West Brom vs Norwich (though being a Man City fan having that match broadcast would be preferable :-)


The Central News and Weather listings are correct up to and including Friday 08/02/02

[PPB]

Postcode: E3
Provider: ITV Digital
Channel Name: Sky ONE
Channel Number: 26
Programme Name: Sliders
Time/Date of airing: Weekdays at 16:00

Programme is actually The Pretender.

Reason for this is that Sky don't always have the terrestrial broadcast rights for some of their programmes, so substitute others on 'Sky ONE' on ITV Digital. ie, There are TWO versions of Sky One - with slight differences. Just copying the listings for the satellite version WILL NOT WORK!

[manolan]

This Sky One problem is a long-running one and has been reported many times. When will someone from Tribune sort it out?

[GarySargent]

At a guess I'd say they are not changing because it would mean everyone would loose their season passes as the channel would effectively change to a different one.

[kmusgrave]

Originally posted by GarySargent
At a guess I'd say they are not changing because it would mean everyone would loose their season passes as the channel would effectively change to a different one.

I think you are being too kind to Tivo/Tribune :) Its more likely that they haven't got round to it yet. They did eventually fix the other "ondigital special" versions of channels IFAICR.

Kevin

[ALanJay]

Couple of errors on Paramount (Sky Digital England)


Sex in the City - episode titles are out - as episodes only on Sunday Monday Tuesday and Thursday (NOT Wednesday).

M*A*S*H from the 18th Feb - all episodes have the same description - and I assume the 1pm and 7pm episodes each day are repeats but they aren't so marked.

[radish]

Postcode: E14
Provider: ITV Digital
Channel Name: BBC 2
Channel Number: 2
Programme Name: Robot Wars Extreme
Time/Date of airing: 11 Feb 12:30am (approx)

The actual program airing was coverage of the Winter Olympics.

It was the final as well :(

[brookheather]

BBC Choice on ITV digital is still showing programs in the EPG during the day even though the channel now only starts at 7pm. The daytime programs have been moved to the new childrens channels.

[ALanJay]

Originally posted by radish
Programme Name: Robot Wars Extreme
Time/Date of airing: 11 Feb 12:30am (approx)

The actual program airing was coverage of the Winter Olympics.


I think this was a late change caused by an overun of the snooker earlier int he evning - so nothing TiVo could have done about it.

[dmchapman]

Postcode: CT19
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Channel Health (CHHLTH)
Channel Number: 193
Programme Name: Almost all!

Noticed today that the guide data for this channel seems to bear no real resemblence to the actual programming. My wife claims that it is never correct :-(

[Automan]

Anyone recording the above with TiVo should check http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45145 as Buffy is 5 mins longer than normal.

richkeys should get a TiVo doll :)

Automan.

[ALanJay]

Yesterday the repeat of Ellen on Paramount (Sky Digital) had a generic title and so was recorded even though the early version was already recorded.

Also next week M*A*S*H on Paramount appears to have generic episode information and again the early and late episodes are repeats but appear with the same generic info so will be recored by a season pass.

[cisdchri]

Postcode: L31
Provider: sky
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel No: 101
Progam Name: A Question of Sport

I have set up a season pass for A Question of Sport, but it includes the repeat as well as the original program.

[Brownedger]

Postcode: ST6
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Channel 5
Channel No: 105
Progam Name: UEFA CUP
Date : 21st Feb.

There is no GENRE in this discription (sports,soccer?)

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Filmfour
Channel No: 323
Progam Name: Bedazzled
Date : 2nd March.

The guide has confused the original with the remake, and has parts of both in the description.

I am sure this will be the original, which was a 1967 UK film with Peter Cook and Dudley Moore.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Classic Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: Many problems with guide data for this programme still remain

Problem 1: TiVo's categories are "Soap Opera, Specials". The episodes aren't "specials". Should be just "Soap Opera".

Problem 2: The Original Air Dates are wrong for every single episode in the TiVo schedule for Granada Plus. They are 1989 episodes, not 2002 episodes. The correct OADs are available on the web at the corrie.net site.

Problem 3: The synopses are still wrong until 25th Feb. They have not been correct since last year :(. I hope we're through it now and they will be correct from here on.

Problem 4: From 6th March onwards, the synopses seem to be truncated down to a single sentence. In the past they have copied (exactly!) the first few sentences of the Granada & fan site synopses (indicating a common source).

Problem 5: It really shouldn't take 2 full months to fix guide data after a problem is first reported.

In the table below, the Original Air Dates and episode numbers come from
http://www.corrie.net/updates/classic/1989.html and the official Granada site
http://www.gplus.co.uk/listings/index.php3?Programme=Classic_Coronation_Street
The synopses from the websites, digiguide and the Sky EPG all match. (NB the
episode numbers on the Granada's own site are currently wrong :rolleyes: )


EpNo. Original Air Date G+ showing will be: TiVo synopsis: Comments
2975 Mon 2nd Oct 1989 11th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2980 TiVo wrong (was ok :()
11th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2975 TiVo ok (was wrong)
11th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2975 TiVo ok (was wrong)
2976 Wed 4th Oct 1989 12th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
12th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
12th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
2977 Mon 9th Oct 1989 13th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
13th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
13th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
2978 Wed 11th Oct 1989 14th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
14th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
14th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
2979 Mon 16th Oct 1989 15th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
15th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
15th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong (was 2980)
n/a 17th Feb 2002 15:00 Generic Omnibus TiVo ok

2980 Wed 18th Oct 1989 18th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2980 TiVo ok
18th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong
18th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong
n/a 19th Feb 2002 09:00 no episode today n/a
19th Feb 2002 12:00 no episode today n/a
19th Feb 2002 18:30 no episode today n/a
2981 Fri 20th Oct 1989 20th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2981 TiVo ok
20th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2981 TiVo ok
20th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2981 TiVo ok
2982 Mon 23rd Oct 1989 21st Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong
21st Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong
21st Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong
2983 Wed 25th Oct 1989 22nd Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong
22nd Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong
22nd Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2981 TiVo wrong
n/a 24th Feb 2002 15:00 Generic Omnibus TiVo ok

2984 Fri 27th Oct 1989 25th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2984 TiVo ok
25th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2984 TiVo ok
25th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2984 TiVo ok
2985 Mon 30th Oct 1989 26th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2985 TiVo ok
26th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2985 TiVo ok
26th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2985 TiVo ok
2986 Wed 1st Nov 1989 27th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2986 TiVo ok
27th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2986 TiVo ok
27th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2986 TiVo ok
2987 Fri 3rd Nov 1989 28th Feb 2002 09:00 Episode 2987 TiVo ok
28th Feb 2002 12:00 Episode 2987 TiVo ok
28th Feb 2002 18:30 Episode 2987 TiVo ok
2988 Mon 6th Nov 1989 1st Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 2988 TiVo ok
1st Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 2988 TiVo ok
1st Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 2988 TiVo ok
n/a 3rd Mar 2002 15:00 Generic Omnibus TiVo ok

2989 Wed 8th Nov 1989 4th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 2989 TiVo ok
4th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 2989 TiVo ok
4th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 2989 TiVo ok
2990 Fri 10th Nov 1989 5th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 2990 TiVo ok
5th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 2990 TiVo ok
5th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 2990 TiVo ok
2991 Mon 13th Nov 1989 6th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 2991 TiVo ok but truncated
6th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 2991 TiVo ok but truncated
6th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 2991 TiVo ok but truncated
2992 Wed 15th Nov 1989 7th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 2992 TiVo ok but truncated
7th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 2992 TiVo ok but truncated
7th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 2992 TiVo ok but truncated

[Automan]

Postcode: Whole UK
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: TCM
Channel Number: 327
Programme Name: Random Hearts
Date: 17/02/02
Time: 09:10

TiVo thinks "Random Hearts" (199) is on starring Harrison Ford but of course it's "Random Harvest" (1942) starring Ronald Colman.

However the description of the movie seems correct.

Automan.

[Automan]

Postcode: Whole Country
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: CHN5
Channel Number: 105
Programme Name: T.J. Hooker
Time/Date of airing: Mon-Fri 11:00

The programme guide data for the next two weeks does not indicate this stars William Shatner, Adrian Zmed (or Heather Locklear) or anyone else for that matter and thus a wishlist for any these actors will fail to find this programme.

As this programme is of US origin I find this very strange...

Automan.

[okonski_uk]

As Tivo allows for the selection of Sky's different geographical regions, I decided to see if it coped correctly with the Eire channel numbers, which whilst similar, have a number of significant differences

Set up in the Eire satellite mode, it correctly identifies BBC1NI and BBC2NI in the 214/215 locations (which do not exist for UK viewers) however this is the listing shown:

No. Tivo Says Should be/Will be
101 BLANK RTE 1 (from 1/4/02)
102 BLANK Network 2 (from 1/4/02)
103 BLANK TV3 (from 1/4/02)
104 CH4 <ERROR> TG4 (from 1/4/02)
105 CH5 <ERROR>
106 BLANK <ERROR> Should be SKY1IRL
107 BLANK
108 BLANK
109 UKGOLD OK

[Rob Nespor Bellis]

Postcode: BN2
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Extreme
Channel Number: 422
Programme Name: Hot Water
Time/Date of airing: Mon 18/2 02:00 but at other times too.

This program is listed as genre COMEDY. It is a watersports ( yes really ) show about windsurfing etc. Please coorect the genre as my TiVo keeps picking it as a suggestion as I like comedy :)

Rgds,

R.

[Automan]

Postcode: South Of England At Least
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: CHN4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: No Programmes After 06:00 next Saturday
Time/Date of airing:

Just tried forcing an update, no new EPG data for this channel :(

Automan.

[GarySargent]

Originally posted by Automan
Postcode: South Of England At Least
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: CHN4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: No Programmes After 06:00 next Saturday
Time/Date of airing:

Just tried forcing an update, no new EPG data for this channel :(

Automan.

Might be worth you calling customer services about this one if it still hasn't arrived. If TiVo are on holiday that might explain it?

[Richardr]

I'm in the same boat, not having next week's C4 on either Sky Digital or ntl digital.

Customer services didn't know of any problem, my most recent call was this afternoon.

[mrtickle]

Hmm. Just checked and I don't have any C4 past Fri 22nd either :(
(Sky Digi England)

[Richardr]

I notice Gary didn't say that he had C4 listings in his reply.

[kjwinsor]

My terrestrial C4 runs out at the same time. It's beginning to be a regular occurrence for one or two channels to get close to running out of data.

If Digiguide and even Radio Times can get the data out in good time, what's the problem?

[ozsat]

Originally posted by PPB
Postcode: E3
Provider: ITV Digital
Channel Name: Sky ONE
Channel Number: 26
Programme Name: Sliders
Time/Date of airing: Weekdays at 16:00

Programme is actually The Pretender.

Reason for this is that Sky don't always have the terrestrial broadcast rights for some of their programmes, so substitute others on 'Sky ONE' on ITV Digital. ie, There are TWO versions of Sky One - with slight differences. Just copying the listings for the satellite version WILL NOT WORK!This should be resolved during the next few days - ITV DIGITAL USERS: Please Read (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46552)

[sierra]

Originally posted by kjwinsor
My terrestrial C4 runs out at the same time. It's beginning to be a regular occurrence for one or two channels to get close to running out of data.

If Digiguide and even Radio Times can get the data out in good time, what's the problem?

TiVo phoned me yesterday afternoon to say that the Channel Four problem should be resolved either yesterday afternoon or overnight. I just checked and it is still not listing after 'Countdown' early Saturday morning. Anyone know any different?

[Richardr]

C4 has now turned up here at last (call was at 3:50pm).

[GarySargent]

Yep same here - looks like its fixed! :)

[mrtickle]

Fixed by the skin of their teeth.

I still have full listings before 7pm for BBC Knowledge though which should not be there :(

[dmchapman]

Originally posted by dmchapman
Postcode: CT19
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Channel Health (CHHLTH)
Channel Number: 193
Programme Name: Almost all!


This seems to be getting worse. Now some of the programs don't even have the correct length - before it was only the program names that where wrong.

I couldn't actually find one program that was correct last night - the info looks almost like it if for a completely different channel.

My wife is starting to give me grief over it - hence the repost :-)

Darren

[sierra]

C4 came down last night but the overall programme listings still do not cover two weeks. Last night TiVo recorded 'DIY SOS', (BBC1), which is not even on this week! (It actually recorded ITV1 text early this morning). Things need to improve and sharpish especially as 2.5.5. has been released. People expect and deserve better for £120 per annum!

[scant-reward]

postcode : ng13
supplier : ntl analogue
channel : 4

still no program listings past 5.20am sat 23/2 for channel 4

[richkeys]

Postcode: BR7 6RD
Supplier: Cable & Wireless Analogue
Problem: Channel 43 previously Zee TV is now E4 in the evenings.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by richkeys
Postcode: BR7 6RD
Supplier: Cable & Wireless Analogue
Problem: Channel 43 previously Zee TV is now E4 in the evenings.

That belongs in the channel lineup thread, not here! :)

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Faking It
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Problem1: Category is "International" - wrong. Should be "Documentary".

Problem2: IsEpisode is false with generic description and all have identical OADs of 18th Sep 2000 - meaning repeats aren't detected. Episode broadcasts are:

27th Feb 21:00, REPEATED 28th Feb 00:55

then the next episode is
6th Mar 21:00, REPEATED 7th Mar 00:55

Cycle continues with each episode being shown on Wedsnesday nights and repeated in the early hours of Thursday mornings. Please set IsEpisode to True and get correct OADs from Channel 4 - if correct OADS are not available please set OAD to the first showing of each episode in the meantime so that the repeats can be detected.

[mrtickle]

There are some general problems which can be fixed by Tribune with some global searching and replacing of the data before it is uploaded each day to TiVo's servers.

1. "CC" (closed captions). We do not have closed captions in the UK and no programmes are ever broadcast with closed captions on any platform. This needs to be changed to "subtitles" everywhere it occurs.

2. "Nicam stereo" or "Nicam digital stereo". This seems to crop up a lot in the Channel 5 listings. The thing is, that flavour of stereo is only broadcast on the analogue terrestrial versions of the 5 main channels. It cannot be and never is broadcast on any channel via Sky or ITVDigital or digital cable so it should not be appearing in those listings! Should read just "stereo". Probably easiest just to change it to "stereo" on all platforms anyway - it was only ever in the listings as a marketing term.

3. Pound signs. They often get mangled due presumably being being top-bit-set characters in the files supplied by the broadcasters. An example is in the synopsis for Classic Coronation Street on Granada Plus (Sky Digital channel 118) for 6th Mar 2002 09:00, 12:00 and 18:30. It should read "a 25 pound bet" with a pound sign before the 25. Need to check for that ASCII top-bit character when the source data arrives from the broadcasters and fix each time.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Problem1: IsEpisode is false with generic description and all have identical OADs of 30th May 2000 - meaning repeats aren't detected.

This is a daily news programme, new and live each day. It is repeated usually at midnight or shortly afterwards.

Ie
Mon 25th Feb 19:00, REPEATED Tue 26th Feb 00:30
Tue 26th Feb 19:00, REPEATED Wed 27th Feb 00:05
Wed 27th Feb 19:00, REPEATED Thu 27th Feb 00:05
Thu 28th Feb 19:00, REPEATED Fri 1st Mar 00:00
Fri 1st Mar 19:00, REPEATED Sat 2nd Mar 00:10

Cycle continues Mon-Fri. Please set IsEpisode to True and set the OAD for each episode pair to the Date of the first 7pm showing of each episode. This will then be correct for all BBC Choice showings.

Problem2: Category is "Variety" which is a bit sparse although correct. Could also be "News" and "Magazine".


Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: Saturday nights

Liquid News also has a BBC News 24 programme once a week. This is not a repeat of any other showing, it is unique to BBC News 24. Again please set the OAD to the date of each transmission.

Also see Category suggestion above.


Channel Name: BBC One
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: Monday nights/Tuesday early morning

Liquid News also has a BBC One programme once a week. This is not a repeat of any other showing, it is unique to BBC News 24. Again please set the OAD to the date of each transmission.

Also see Category suggestion above.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Spitting Image
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Problem: IsEpisode is false and missing OADs, meaning repeats aren't detected.
Episode broadcasts are on Tuesday nights with a repeat of the SAME episode in the early hours of Wednesday mornings.
eg
Tue 26th Feb 22:30, REPEATED Wed 27th Feb 01:30

Please set IsEpisode to True and get correct OADs from Granada - if correct OADS are not available please set OAD to the first showing of each episode in the meantime.


Problem2: Category is "Satire" which is correct, but please add "Comedy" and "Public Affairs".

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Channel Four and E4
Channel Number: 104 and 205
Programme Name: So Graham Norton
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Problem1: The generic synopsis which is being used
a) says it's on E4, not always true - it's on Channel 4 sometimes
b) says it is the 4th series, not always true, some of the repeats are of other series
c) mentions specific guests.
A new generic synopsis is needed which is really properly generic!

(Real synopses giving the correct guests each time would be better of course)


Problem2: IsEpisode is false and OADs all set to wrong dates, meaning repeats aren't detected.

The Channel Four broadcasts are:
Friday, NEW "FIRST RUN" :D episode, which is repeated on Thursday the following week.
eg
22nd Feb 22:30, REPEATED 28th Feb 23:35.
Please set IsEpisode to True and the OADs to the first Friday showing for each pair on C4.

The E4 broadcasts are Mon-Weds with a repeat of each episode in the early hours of the next day:
25th Feb 22:30, REPEATED 26th Feb 02:15
26th Feb 22:30, REPEATED 27th Feb 02:15
27th Feb 22:30, REPEATED 28th Feb 02:15

4th Mar 22:30, REPEATED 5th Mar 01:25
5th Mar 22:30, REPEATED 6th Mar 02:20
6th Mar 22:30, REPEATED 7th Mar 02:20

These are all repeats of old episodes. Please set IsEpisode to True and get correct OADs from Channel Four - if correct OADS are not available please set OAD to the first (22:30) showing of each episode in the meantime.

[timjon]

Postcode: SM4
Provider: ITV Digital
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 42
Programme Name: Friends, Ally McBeal
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Both Friends and Ally McBeal don't have "first run" information set. E4 is currently running new series of both of these shows, but a season pass set to record "first run only" shows no shows upcoming.

The "First run" episodes are 9 pm - 10 pm Tuesdays (Ally McBeal) and 9 pm - 9:30 pm Thursdays (Friends). Both episodes are then repeated later in the week, so the repeats should also be marked as first run.

[Richardr]

Originally posted by dmchapman
Postcode: CT19
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Channel Health (CHHLTH)
Channel Number: 193
Programme Name: Almost all!

Noticed today that the guide data for this channel seems to bear no real resemblence to the actual programming. My wife claims that it is never correct :-(

There is a website at Channel Health (http://www.channelhealth.tv/) .

They have a schedule that also isn't correct! It is though marginally closer than TIVO's. I found one programme correct this morning.

I believe that the channel is in financial trouble. It is no surprise if no one has a clue what is on!

[sanderton]

Not strictly a programme gude error, more a request for a change:

Currently you categorise all rugby as Sports/Rugby.

There are two completle seperate sports, Rugby Union and Rugby League. Not only are they not the same, as a general rule fans of one can't stand the other.

Having them using the same category makes the wishlists of limited functionality.

If you can't add seperate categories, how about always using teh words "Union" or "League" in the prgramme descriptions.

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: ntl Digital
Channel Name: ITV Sport / ITV Sport Plus
Channel Number: 727 / 728
Programme Name: Football
Time/Date of airing: 26/2/2002 7pm / 7:40pm

Next week sees two UEFA Champions League games on the above two channels. Although they have the same teams as last Wednesday's games, they are actually the return fixtures shown live, and not TV repeats of last weeks games.

Thus they should be:

727: Manchester United v Nantes, OAD: 26/2/2001 (not Nantes v Man Utd, OAD: 20/2/2002)

728: Galatasaray v Liverpool, OAD 26/2/2002 (not Liverpool v Galatasaray, OAD 20/2/2002)

[eric23]

Postcode: BN2
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Chanel Name: LIVING
Channel Number: 112
Prog Name: "Golden Girls"
Time/Date of Airing: Ongoing

Episode IDs (titles, descriptions and numbers) are rarely true to what is actually being shown. This is messing up my season pass as it is recording ones that I've already seen thinking they're different ones (and therefore probably not recording ones that I haven't seen)...

[ALanJay]

Sky Digital England

Various errors lited below:

Paramount
MASH
IsEpisode FLASE
Original Air Date 19/9/1972 (for all episodes)

BBC1
Best Inventions
IsEpisode FLASE
Original Air Date 26/09/2001

Actual episode from last wednesday repeat from two weeks earlier (2002) 28 Day rule should have not recorded as recorded when new.

E4
Faking It
IsEpisode FLASE
Original Air Date 18/7/2000
Episode two days ago (ie the one being shown this week) Hardresser from 2002.

Paramount
Sex in the City
Episode titles out of sync as EPG still has Wednesday 10.30pm even though the last 3 weeks has been Frasier.

Paramount
What about Joan
IsEpisode FLASE
Original Air Date 27/03/2001 All Episodes
Generic decription

C4
Driven
IsEpisode FLASE
Original Air Date 2000
New episode should be 2002 - has a generic summary


E4
Friends - Episode informmation seems to be wrong - tonight at 8.30 is generally the repeat of the new season but is in the EPG as an episode from 1996 as are all the other episodes for this week on E4. Though looking at the Sky Guide it looks like E4 may have chnged when the repeat of the new series is playing on Friday (which of course shouldn't be a problem if you could actually work out which were NEW EPISODES but first run won't work - is this a bug with the EPG or a bug with the manual?)



The items below actually have all the correct data BUT the "First Run" function won't work as the Original Air date is more than 28 days in the past (as it is a US series though the date is of course acurately the US season first run). But at least the episode data is correct and apart from E4 a season pass works just fine to record only new episodes (as there aren't any old ones). E4

E4
Ally McBeal
IsEpisode True
Original Air Date US OAD
Episode Number correct

Sky One
Enterprise
IsEpisode True
Original Air Date US OAD
Episode Number correct

Sky One
Malcolm in the Middle
IsEpisode True
Original Air Date US OAD
Episode Number correct

C5
CSI
IsEpisode True
Original Air Date US OAD
Episode Number correct

[markphillips]

Dear Tribune Peeps

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE sort out the biography channel listings.

At the moment the majority of programmes are called "Biography" which makes giving thumbs up, or doing season passes impossible.

If I give a show I like 3 thumbs up - the TiVo then records almost ALL biography channel shows, regardless of whether they relate to the original in any way! :-(((

Biography scedules most shows as part of a series, with other related shows on over the later weeks.

The theme is always mentioned in the break bumpers

Please could you add the series that the show is a part of, such as

Biography - Hollywood Lovers
Biography - Gangsters

so that I can use the TiVo without doing manual recordings.

Thanks

Mark Phillips

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: analogue terrestrial
Channel Name: ITV1
Programme Name: Formula One motor racing
Time/Date of airing: various, see below


Thankyou for using "F1" in the title for the Australian GP, but doing it that way makes it impossible to set a Season Pass for the F1 Season!

Please consider using Episode Titles to indicate what race/programme is being shown, and setting a consistent Programme title so that we can set a Season Pass.

eg:
Programme title = "Formula One" or "F1 Motor Racing" or similar (anything except "Auto Racing", basically :D)

Then episode titles:
Episode "2002 season preview" on 23rd Feb
Episode "Austrialian GP qualifying" on 2nd Mar
Episode "Austrialian GP" on 3nd Mar
Episode "Austrialian GP highlights" later on 3nd Mar
Episode "Malaysian GP qualifying" on 16th Mar
Episode "Malaysian GP" on 17th Mar
Episode "Malaysian GP highlights" later on 17th Mar
etc.


Also, please use the category "Motor Sports". Thanks!

[TimmyB]

TW2 6NY
ITV Digital
SKY ONE
26
ALL PROGRAMS!!
Lineup change removed sky one on Friday morning, forced manual call and is still not there!

Not happy...

[Richardr]

Seethread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46552) - you should now have the ITV Digital specific Sky One instead.

Post in that thread if not.

[Automan]

Postcode: Whole UK
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Turner Classic Movies
Channel Number: 327
Programme Name: Ransom (1956)
Time/Date of airing: 13:00 28/02/2002

I have a Wishlist for GIBSON, MEL and TiVo thinks Mel was in the original 1956 version of this movie.

(His name is in the description but is not listed as being in the movie under Actors).

Should an Actor wishlist look at the description?

Automan.

[dmchapman]

CT19
Skydigital
Ch 622 Cbeebies

Every episode of the tweenies seems to have the same program description - They claim to be episode "The present" but they are not (in fact, they are not even all the same episode).

Playing havoc with season passes as well - despite the identical description it is recording every episode (including the repeats)

:-(

Darren - 5 identical tweenies all with the wrong title this morning

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of airing: 18:30 24th Feb 2002

The OAD is listed as 6th Jan 2002, should be 24th Feb 2002 for Sky One. Ie, this episode today is a new "First Run" episode which isn't picked up by a "First Run only" Season Pass.

(I only spotted it thanks to Digiguide)

[dallardice]

Postcode: N1
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel: 573 BBC Knowledge/BBC Four
Date: Saturday 2 March 2002

Listings for the launch day of BBC4 are wrong.

TiVo has:
1900 BBC4 News
1930 BBC4 Previews
1940 Robert Hughes on Goya
2050 BBC4 Previews
2100 Surrealissimo!
2200 TBA
2230 Baaba Mal
2300 Storyville: Startup.com
0045 BBC4 Previews
0055 Robert Hughes on Goya

The BBC says:
1900 The Man who Destroyed Everything
2000 BBC4 News
2030 BBC4 Previews
2040 Robert Hughes on Goya
2150 BBC4 Previews
2200 Surrealissimo!
2300 The Gist
2330 Baaba Mal
0000 BBC4 Previews
0010 The Man who Destroyed Everything
0105 Fever: A Tribute to Peggy Lee

Note too that the BBC are currently discussing BBC4's place in the Sky EPG, and it may not replace BBC Knowledge at 573. Latest information will presumably be at www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour nearer the weekend.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Sky One
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Time/Date of airing: 18:30 10th March 2002
Episode "Jaws Wired Shut"

The OAD is listed as 27th Jan 2002 for network "Fox"; it should be 10th March 2002 for network "Sky".

The above episode is a new "First Run" episode which isn't picked up by a "First Run only" Season Pass on Sky One.

There is plenty of time for this to be fixed before the broadcast. I consider this a test to see whether Tribune are serious about providing correct Original Air Dates for the UK.

[Olly]

Postcode: CH47
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: DISCOV, DHL, DHL1
Channel Number: 551, 133, 134
Programme Name: Biker Roadshow
Time/Date of airing: 2:30 4th March 2002 + all others

Category listed as "International". It should be "Motorcycles"

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice and BBC Two
Channel Number: 160 and 102
Programme Name: Shooting Stars
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below

Problem1: Again, we have a specific episode description being used to describe different episodes when, if no specific guide is available, a generic description (which is being used in some places) should be used.
ie:
Mon 25th Feb BBC2 21:30 guests are Larry Hagman, Gail Hipgrave and Paul Whitehouse, NOT Craig Cash, Chris Greener and Lisa Rogers.
Sun 3rd Mar BBC Choice 23:43 has the same list of guests (Craig Cash, Chris Greener and Lisa Rogers) which is surely wrong. There is a different list of guests for the 21:00 showing on that date which is probably correct.


Problem2: OADs and IsEpisode flags need correcting as follows:

BBC Choice 24th Feb 21:00 - IsEpisode True (correct), OAD 24th Feb (correct).
BBC Choice 24th Feb 23:45 - IsEpisode False (should be true), OAD missing (should be 24th Feb).
If there is a problem with 2 episodes on the same date, assign episode numbers. The 23:45 programme is a REPEAT of the 21:00 programme.

BBC Two 25th Feb 21:30 - IsEpisode False (should be true), OAD missing (should be 25th Feb as it is new to Two, or the original Choice OAD).

BBC Choice 26th Feb 22:30 - IsEpisode True (correct), OAD 26th Feb (wrong - should be 24th Feb). It is a REPEAT of the 24th Feb 21:00 programme.
BBC Choice 27th Feb 21:30 - IsEpisode True (correct), OAD 27th Feb (wrong - should be 24th Feb). It is a REPEAT of the 24th Feb 21:00 programme.
BBC Choice 1st Mar 21:30 - IsEpisode False (should be true), OAD missing (should be 24th Feb). It is a REPEAT of the 24th Feb 21:00 programme.

To put it another way BBC Choice shows a New Episode of Shooting Stars every Sunday at 21:00. It is then REPEATED later that evening, and several times during the next week until the next new episode the following Sunday.

[Olly]

Postcode: CH47
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: GMM
Channel Number: 139
Programme Name: 2 Wheels
Time/Date of airing: Numerous

Replace category "bicycle" with "Motorcycles"

[boyz]

Postcode: HU11
Provider: ITVDigital
Channel Name: ITV
Channel Number: 3
Programme: Night And Day
Time/Date of airing: Every Thursday night

Please can the Thursday late evening omnibus of 'Night and Day' on ITV be listed as 'Night and Day Omnibus'.

It was listed as such when it first started but has since been changed to just 'Night and Day'. It therefore isn't possible to set a Season Pass for this showing without including the normal weekday broadcasts.

[Richard_J]

Postcode : EH12
Provider : ITVDigital
Channel Name : C4
Channel Number : 4
Program : Driven
Date/Time : Wed 3.05 am

Program description states that this is a 1 hour special but the duration is only 30 mins. Repeat on Thursday is correctly set to 1 hour.

[mrtickle]

Actually no, the synopsis for Driven is wrong (again) and the times are correct.

The Wed 27th Feb 03:05 programme is a repeat of last Thursday's normal 30 min programme.

The 60-min special programme is on this Thursday, repeated NEXT Monday 4th March 02:30.

(The new episodes are shown at peak time on Thursdays, then repeated in the middle of the night sometime the following week)

HTH

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Provider: analogue terrestrial
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel number: 58
Programme Name: Various
Time/Date of airing: various

0600 on Sat 2nd March 2002 to 2359 Sun 3rd March 2002 (well midnight, but it's midnight Sunday into Monday) BBC1 is showing the generic "BBC ONE" programme info at two hourly intervals. The programme guide is correct before and after the above times, through to around Sat 9th March 2002. It's just that weekend that has the info missing.

(After initially posting this I have now seen the same problem described for C4 rather than BBC1 on the "No Channel 4 Programme Data" thread at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47108 )

[Beancounter]

Postcode: AB51
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: ITV1 Grampian
Channel Number : 103


Listings for 103 from next week contain programme details for the Granada region rather than Grampian :rolleyes:

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 102
Programme Name: Room 101
Time/Date of airing: various see below

Problem: IsEpisode false set, OADs wrong, 28-day rule unable to detect repeats.

Mon 4th Mar 00:00 - IsEpisode false (should be true), OAD 29th July 1999?! - should be 25th Feb 2002 - ie it is a REPEAT of yesterday's episode.

It looks like the weekly pattern will be:

Monday nights, 22:00 - a new FIRST RUN episode.
Then the following Sunday late evening/Monday early morning - REPEAT of that episode.

Please fix the guide data so that each pair has the same correct OAD (of the first showing) and they are all IsEpisode true.

[Darren Skidmore]

Postcode: NN3
Provider: SKY Digital
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 102
Programme: Shooting Stars
Time/Date of airing: Monday 9.30pm

Always has the same description with the same guests. Very annoying as I like to know who the guests are going to be (can normally tell how funny it will be depending on the guests)

Also 'Never Mind the Buzzcocks' (BBC2 9.00pm) always starts late which throws out the other programs. (I know this is the BBCs fault but I just wanted to get it off my chest!)

Also happens on a lot of other series which have different guests each week.

Tribune, this is just lazyness not what I expect to pay £10 a month for!

[RogerH]

Postcode: CF64
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: BBC2WD
Channel Number : 102


This channel has no correct programmes during the Wales-only evening opt-out as Tivo only shows the programmes for the normal BBC2.

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Sky Sports 2
Channel Number: 402
Programme: World Football
Time/Date of airing: 5 March 2002: 8:30am (and many others)

This programme always has the same description, which includes "followed by ITV News Summary".

This can be true when the programme of this name is on ITV, but not when it is on Sky Sports.

[ArwelP]

Postcode: CW2
Channel: BBC2NW
Provider: Aerial
channel 62 (also ITV Digital channel 2)
Date: 28/2/02
Time: 7.30 p.m.
Programme: TiVo is showing "First Sight", which from the description sounds like a London regional programme. BBC2 is advertising "The Dig", which is the northwestern regional programme on Roman Chester archaeology.

[arturus]

- LL55 3HD
- Sky Digital
- BBC2 Wales Digital
- 102
- many...

After around 9pm most evenings the listings for this channel are those of the mainstream BBC2 channel - BBC2 WD actualy seem to inset an 'extra' news magazine type of programme around 9pm - which moves on the 'regular' programmes by half an hour, so if TiVo tries to use the listings they are all wrong. I have reported this to TiVo more than once and notice other users regularly post the same problem to this forum.

If TiVo refuse or cannot do something about this - can we as paying customers - do anything about it? What am I paying my subscription for if it's not correct!

[ReHaB]

Postcode: SA15 2NT
Channel: Sky one
Provider: SKY
channel 106
Date: many
Time: 7.ish and midnightish

I have a season pass set up for Voyager on Sky one at around Teatime but is also records the repeat at midnight. This is due to the program synopsis being generic on the repeat. The first showing has a proper synopsis while the repeat doesn't even give the name of the episode so tivo is recording it as a suggestion. very annoying :mad:

[MrBassMan]

Postcode: SO50
Channel: UK Horizons
Provider: SKY
channel 564
Date: Every date showing
Time: Every date showing

The program "Vets to the Rescue" has the same program description for every showing. This description includes one of my wishlist keywords "Lumurs" which means TIVO is recording every episode but there is nothing about Lemurs on the show.

[MrBassMan]

Postcode: SO50
Channel: DHL and DHL1
Provider: SKY
channels 133 & 134
Date: many
Time: many

There are many instances of programs on DHL being recorded and then the repeat recording on DHL1 also being recorded. Two programs in particular effect me:

"Rex hunt fishing world"
e.g. on my TODO list for:
28/2 11:30pm 133 DHL
1/3 12:30am 134 DHL1
Plus many other instances

"This old house"
e.g. on my TODO list for:
28/2 1:00pm 133 DHL
28/2 2:00pm 134 DHL1
Plus many other instances

[rasheed]

Originally posted by mrtickle
Problem: IsEpisode false set, OADs wrong, 28-day rule unable to detect repeats.

Mon 4th Mar 00:00 - IsEpisode false (should be true), OAD 29th July 1999?! - should be 25th Feb 2002 - ie it is a REPEAT of yesterday's episode.

Please fix the guide data so that each pair has the same correct OAD (of the first showing) and they are all IsEpisode true.

Isn't "IsEpisode" a backdoor thing in 2.5.x? If so, I wouldn't try to direct TMS on how to fix this 'hidden' field.

To help get generic episode data into specific episode data, it is important for TMS to know:

-The Original Air Date (episode)
-Episode number
-Episode name
-Original episode air time, and schedule for repeat airings that should be set to the same episode.

Remember Episode descriptions are not necessary to get the SP/AR WL/FRO to work better. Thus, if you get the episode data correct with no description, your TiVo AR functions will work fine.

You typically know you have specific episode data when you see a Year designation in the description area on serials. No year indicates generic episode data. Also, most OADs on generic episode data are the date of the series premiere.

Rasheed

[dmchapman]

Postcode: CT19
Channel: CBeebies
Provider: SKY
channel 622
Date: Every day

Program details and title for every episode of the Tweenies is identical. Also, a season pass records all six episodes even though there are only two new episodes a day. The pattern seems to be:

09:00 Tweenies episode 1
09:40 Tweenies episode 2

13:00 Tweenies episode 1 repeat
13:40 Tweenies episode 2 repeat

17:00 Tweenies episode 1 repeat
17:40 Tweenies episode 2 repeat

The TiVo has all of these listed as the same episode (an episode that isn't on at all today!) yet they *all* get recorded by a season pass :-(

[Paj]

Originally posted by rasheed

Isn't "IsEpisode" a backdoor thing in 2.5.x? If so, I wouldn't try to direct TMS on how to fix this 'hidden' field.


I thought the point of this thread was to help Tribune solve what is the major current failing with TiVo's operation: the guide data.

Sure, we could just say "Thursday's episode is broken" and leave them to work it out, but the lack of improvement in the data to date is an indicator that they do not have time to solve every problem. Surely anything we can do to suggest what may be wrong will help them get through more errors in less time.

[GarySargent]

Postcode: WF17
Channel: Bravo
Provider: NTL Digital
channel: Can't remember - at work!
Date: Every day

Programme "Future Fighting Machines" has the same Original Air Date each day (13/10/2001). Selecting "First Run" on Season Passes still gets all episodes - despite the description not being generic.

I've already watched all the episodes airing so can you get the correct OAD's please?!

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by rasheed

Isn't "IsEpisode" a backdoor thing in 2.5.x? If so, I wouldn't try to direct TMS on how to fix this 'hidden' field.


See Paj's response. Tribune need as much help as possible. They have posted to this thread before now.


To help get generic episode data into specific episode data, it is important for TMS to know:

-The Original Air Date (episode)
-Episode number
-Episode name
-Original episode air time, and schedule for repeat airings that should be set to the same episode.


Which is what i try to give with the proviso that many series don't have episode names in the UK


Remember Episode descriptions are not necessary to get the SP/AR WL/FRO to work better. Thus, if you get the episode data correct with no description, your TiVo AR functions will work fine.


agreed


No year indicates generic episode data. Also, most OADs on generic episode data are the date of the series premiere.


Those are only some of the biggest problems with the UK data; the setting of OADs to all the same date (often several years ago) on new First Run programmes.

We have discovered that the IsEpisode flag directly affects the 28 day rule. If it's set to false then TiVo doesn't attempt to filter repeats. It basically indicates whether the episode data is generic or specific. If it isn't specific (IsEpisode true, OAD set to that episode's correct OAD, episode number present) then a huge chunk of TiVo's functionality is lost and it causes major problems which the US doesn't have.

[ozsat]

Granada Plus (all platforms) has "To Be announced" shown at 1pm, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm and 5pm - for Saturday 2nd March.

They are actually showing further episodes of "Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased)" following on from 12pm. Total of six episodes. (The original ITC series :))

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Updated: Scheduled times have changed (see below), fixes still not done.

Problem1: IsEpisode is false with generic description and all have identical OADs of 30th May 2000 - meaning repeats aren't detected and every single repeat is being recorded.

This is a daily news programme, new and live each day. It is repeated usually at midnight or shortly afterwards.

Ie
Mon 25th Feb 19:00, REPEATED Tue 26th Feb 00:30
Tue 26th Feb 19:00, REPEATED Wed 27th Feb 00:05
Wed 27th Feb 19:00, REPEATED Thu 28th Feb 00:05
Thu 28th Feb 19:00, REPEATED Fri 1st Mar 00:00
Fri 1st Mar 19:00, REPEATED Sat 2nd Mar 00:10

Cycle continues Mon-Fri.

Changes to Schedule:
Mon 4th Mar 20:00 (was 19:00), REPEATED Tue 5th Mar 00:00
Tue 5th Mar 20:00 (was 19:00), REPEATED Wed 6th Mar 00:05
Wed 6th Mar 20:00 (was 19:00), REPEATED Thu 7th Mar 00:00
Thu 7th Mar 20:00 (was 19:00), REPEATED Fri 8th Mar 00:00
Fri 8th Mar 20:00 (was 19:00), REPEATED Sat 9th Mar 00:00

etc. All 7pm showings are moving to 8pm from Mon 4th March (ie not just for the one week).
Please set IsEpisode to True and set the OAD for each episode pair to the Date of the first 8pm showing of each episode. This will then be correct for all BBC Choice showings.

Problem2: Category is "Variety" which is a bit sparse. Please also be "News" and "Magazine".


Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: Saturday nights

Liquid News also has a BBC News 24 programme once a week. This is not a repeat of any other showing, it is unique to BBC News 24. Again please set the OAD to the date of each transmission.

Also see Category suggestion above.


Channel Name: BBC One
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: Monday nights/Tuesday early morning

Liquid News also has a BBC One programme once a week. This is not a repeat of any other showing, it is unique to BBC News 24. Again please set the OAD to the date of each transmission.

Also see Category suggestion above.

[mrtickle]

Channel Name: BBC Two (all platforms)
Programme Name: Weakest Link
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below

Problem: four showings next week use the "Chef's special" synopsis, but they are NOT repeats of that episode and should use the generic description instead.

affected:
Mon 4th Mar 17:15
Tue 5th Mar 17:15
Wed 6th Mar 17:15
Thu 7th Mar 17:15

(Fri 8th is the "Anne Meets the Villagers" special, correct in TiVo's guide)

[Olly]

Postcode: CH47
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: EURGB
Channel Number: 419
Programme Name: Auto Racing (FIA World Rally Championships)
Time/Date of airing: 7/3 11:30pm, 9/3 12:15am, 15/3 10:45pm

The programme descriptions include "(2001)". They should be "(2002)". Other programmes for this particular event (Corsica) show the correct year in the description

Please don't use the generic title "Auto Racing". Calling it "Rally" would be an improvement.

[ozsat]

BBC2 carries some regional programmes on their analogue services - which are listed as "Regional Programmes" on TiVo on all platforms during this time. All BBC2 digital services in England are actually BBC2 London.

But, BBC2 North, North West and North East have additional changes on Sundays when they change from:

11.15am: Stingray
11.40am: Robot Wars
to
11:15am: The Super League Show
12:00pm: Stingray

This is not reflected on TiVo :(

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: ITV1 / ITV2
Channel Number: 103 / 225
Programme Name: CD:UK
Times - various, see below.

CD:UK is a weekly chart based music programme that has several repeats. At the moment is just has a generic title, and an original air date in 1999 (and IsEpisode is false).

What should happen is as follows:

Each week the new episode is on ITV1 at 11:30 on Saturday morning (occasional slight time changes, e.g. for F1 practice).

This same episode is typically repeated on ITV2 at about 5:10 the same day, and also ITV2 the following afternoon. It is then repeated on ITV1 Thursday night / Friday morning (1am this week).

The cycle returns with a new episode on the Saturday morning.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Sci-Fi (Europe)
Channel Number: 130
Programme Name: Lexx
Time/Date of airing: Thursdays 21:00, each episode repeated the following Sunday at differing times.

Problem: Specific episode data is missing, should be as follows (OADs given are for our showings)

Thu 28th Feb 21:00, repeated Sun 3rd Mar 23:35
episode title is "Moss", Season 4 episode 16, OAD is 28th Feb 2002.

Thu 7th Mar 21:00, repeated Mon 11th Mar 00:10
episode title is "Dutch Treat", Season 4 episode 17, OAD is 7th Mar 2002.

Thu 14th Mar 21:00, repeated Sun 17th Mar 23:55
episode title is "The Game", Season 4 episode 18, OAD is 14th Mar 2002

Thu 21st Mar 21:00, repeat date/time not known yet
episode title is "Yo Way Yo", Season 4 episode 19, OAD 21st Mar 2002

Thu 28th Mar 21:00, repeat date/time not known yet
episode title is "ApocaLexx", Season 4 episode 20, OAD 28th Mar 2002

Thu 4th Apr 21:00, repeat date/time not known yet
episode title is "Viva Lexx Vegas", Season 4 episode 21, OAD 4th Apr 2002.

[ALanJay]

UK Style
Sky Digital (England)
Friends For Dinner

Data correct but description information - ie name of chef - should also be the episode title.

[njh]

Postcode: OX4
Service Provider: aerial
Channel Name: BBC2STH
Channel Number: 63
Programme Name: Star Trek: Voyager
Time/Date: 6.20pm / 5th and 12th March

Problem: The next couple of upcoming Voyager episodes showing on BBC2 are the parts of a two part story, "Flesh and Blood (Part 1)" and "Flesh and Blood (Part 2)". In the programme guide the same details are presented for both parts (title "Flesh and Blood", episode number 253, original air date 29/11/2000). As a consequence, until I manually interveaned, my TiVo did not intend to record the second part (regarding it as a duplicate under the v2.5.5 "28-day rule").

[clivegriffiths]

Postcode: E5
Provider: ITV Digital (Carlton/Central London)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 42
Programme Name: ER
Time/Date of airing: Monday, 1:00am. 4th March 2002.

Problem: Show actually airs at 12:30 - 1:30am.
Also, from Fri 8th March 2002, there is no late night repeat. According to several other TV guides, the next showing of the episode which nornally airs at 9:30pm on Thursdays is Fridays at 7pm, so that woild be friday 8th at 7pm. TiVo still has it listed as airing at 1am on Thu night/Friday morning which was wrong anyway (it actually airs at 12:30).

Postcode: E5
Provider: ITV Digital (Carlton/Central London)
Channel Name: ITV2
Channel Number: 6
Programme Name: Felicity
Time/Date of airing: Sunday 3rd March 2002

Listing should have had 'Felicity' airing at 16:15 - 17:05, but on the TiVo lisitings it has 'Young Hercules' in that timeslot.

[Tom123]

Provider: SkyDigital England
Channel name: E4
Channel #: 205
Programme name: Fanorama
Time/Date of airing: 4 March, 5.00 pm

Problem: Listing should state Friends (repeat of a season 3 episode) instead.

Provider: SkyDigital England
Channel name: E4
Channel #: 205
Programme name: TBA
Time/Date of airing: 4 March, 8.30 pm

Problem: Listing should have Friends instead.

Overall E4 listings are extremely sketchy and inaccurate. It is impossible to set up a recording without checking other sources (DigiGuide, RadioTimes etc.) first.

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Service Provider: aerial
Channel Name: BBC2M
Channel Number: 64
Programme Name: When Louis Met ...
Time/Date: 2100-2150 Tue 05/03/2002 and Tue 12/03/2002

On 05/03/2002 the programme is "When Louis met Ann Widecombe" and on 12/03/2002 it is "When Louis met Chris Eubank". They are part of a series but are not linked as a series in the programme data. I understand that there are other programmes in the coming weeks in the same series.

[Tuesnightspecial]

Postcode: OX4 2AE
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Cartoon Network
Programme Name: Dexters Lab
Time/Date: Every day

The 2nd showing of Dexters Lab each day is NOT dexters lab.


Postcode: OX4 2AE
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: ITV 2
Programme Name: Wolf Lake
Time/Date: Sunday 3/3/02

This showing was supposed to be "Meat The Parents" the first ep of Wolf Lake (and a repeat from ITV1 on Friday night), but was in fact a completely different episode - the 2nd presumably.

[clivegriffiths]

I noticed that in the main TiVo Community Forum section they have a forum called 'Season Pass Alerts'. How about us having one in the UK area?

Given the inaccuracy of our listing (probably more so that US) it would seem a good place to post messages (rather than clog up this one) about particular shows, that have changed time slots, or are airing later, etc. Just this week alone (based on what I watch) I would have three shows to post about.

TiVo lists 'ER' as showing Thu 7th 9:30pm & Fri 8th 1am
it in facts airs Thu 7th 9:30 & Fri 8th at 7:00PM
Also, 'Hear'say The next Chapter' airs on Sat at 6:00PM not 7:30 as TiVo lists it. Finally 'Felicity' according to Sundays listing was 'Young Hercules' so if I'd set a season pass for it, I would have missed the show. Luckily I caught all these mistakes myself, but it would be good if I and others have a forum/section to quickly check to see if any of the shows on my SP or that I plan to record are mentioned. What does everyone else think?

GarySargent, xneilj do you have the power to instigate such a thing if people wanted it??

[Ianl]

analog cable
living tv
ch 23
GU2

new series of Charmed

Saturday 2nd March 1st episode was correct and helpful description

Monday 4th repeat showing had a different description (list all actresses 3 times) and was therefore recorded as well

Saturday 9th march which should be episode 2 has description for episode 1 and therefore is not recorded

Monday 11th march (repeat showing ep 2) same as 4th march

[jwestoby]

Provider: SkyDigital UK
Channel name: E4
Channel #: 205
Programme name: Star Trek
Time/Date of airing: Fridays (8th march etc)

Problem: Listing should state Friends repeat of Thursday's new episode. Monday to Thursday ARE Star Trek.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Ally McBeal
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Problem: the daily/mon-thurs repeats have got screwed up. These are the showings which are 7pm and repeated during the night.

TiVo has the episode titles wrong, the episodes out of sequence, the start times wrong for the night repeats, the durations wrong for the night repeats.

Eg yesterday's episode was the Musical (Season 3 ep 21), not the title TiVo had. The repeat was at 02:35, not 02:50 as per the Tribune data. Had I not had Digiguide I would have missed the first 1/3rd of it!

Lots of episodes are wrong, I don't have DG or TiVo infront of me at the moment tho.

[bobg]

Postcode: KT3
Provider: ITV Digital
Channel Name: ITV1CAR
Channel Number: 3
Programme Name: Heartbeat
Time/Date of airing: Sunday evenings 8pm ish
Program on 3mar was defined as religion
program on 10mar defined as crime drama
Suspect many of current series have faulty definitions
all should be crime drama.
Causes episodes to be missed in season passes.

[Richardr]

Originally posted by clivegriffiths
I noticed that in the main TiVo Community Forum section they have a forum called 'Season Pass Alerts'. How about us having one in the UK area?
There is a thread season pass thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29563)

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Service Provider: aerial
Channel Name: ITV1CEN
Channel Number: 61
Programme Name: Formula One
Time/Date: 0430-0600 Sat 16/03/2002

This is the last programme of the updated data on my Tivo so I am not bothered about the time (which is listed correctly in the description panel to 0615) but it seems that for this Malayasian Grand Prix Qualifying Tivo/Tribune are using the phrase "Formula One" in the programme title whilst for the Australian Grand Prix it was "F1" in the title of each qualifying and race programme.

Can the phrase, whichever one is chosen, be consistent across the 17 grand prixes?

[mrtickle]

I haven't seen the listings yet, but that's looking good. We suggested a week or so ago that it was changed so that you could set a Season Pass (previously you'd've had to use a wishlist title search) - hopefully this means that it's been taken on board and done :)

[DavidFuller]

Source: Sky Digital
Channel: ITV2
Postcode: N15

Date Saturday 9th March

ITV2 schedule completely wrong.

TiVo schedule
20.00 TBA
20.30 Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
21.00 Movie (no name)


Actual Schedule
19.20 Victoria Beckham Talking Posh
20.20 Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
21.00 Maverick

The poor schedule continues into next week, with several TBAs or generic placeholders "The Best of ITV1 Entertainment"

David

[gadg]

Source: Telewest Digital Cable
Channel: ITV2
Postcode: BD17

Date: All weekdays

Late Show with David Letterman is now screened twice daily: once late at night, with a repeat early the following evening. Times vary daily.
The early evening screenings need to be flagged as repeats to prevent TiVo recording (as it does now) every edition twice.

[dallardice]

Source: Sky Digital
Channel: 161 BBC4
Postcode: N1
Date: from Sun 17/3

Programme listings for the week beginning Sun 10/3 seem to be repeated for the following weeks.

For example, the special programming on Mon 11/3 to mark the six-month anniversary of Sept 11 is also listed for Mon 18/3 and Mon 25/3; Bjork at the Royal Opera House, a special on Tue 12/3, is also listed for Tue 19/3, etc.

[Phil B]

NG2
aerial
BBC1
58
Blue Peter
Friday 8 March 2002 5:00pm

Did not record on season pass because Original Air Date was 1/3/02.

[Phil B]

NG2
aerial
BBC1
58
Newsround Extra
Friday 8 March 2002 5:20pm

Did not record on season pass because Original Air Date was given as 22/2/02, whereas this was new programme.

[Phil B]

Originally posted by xneilj

Problems with season passes should be reported in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/ubbtivo/Forum12/HTML/001579.html).

Problems with your channel lineup should be reported in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/ubbtivo/Forum12/HTML/001580.html).


Neil, The links on your first message in this thread point to the old forum rather than new version. Phil

[LJ]

Programme: Teletubbies

I have a wishlist for the "Sci-Fi & Fantasy" category - TiVo lists all episodes of Teletubbies because they are flagged as "Fantasy".

[Phil B]

Originally posted by LJ
Programme: Teletubbies

I have a wishlist for the "Sci-Fi & Fantasy" category - TiVo lists all episodes of Teletubbies because they are flagged as "Fantasy".

I disagree, 'cos when it comes out, I want my TiVo to record the 3 hour directors cut of "Teletubbies Episode 1 - The Return of Tinky-Winky" :D

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: 53 C4
Programme Name: U25=mc2
Date/Time of airing: Tue 12/3 7:55pm

The title should be "£25=MC^2". The GBP symbol is also incorrect in the description: "...with nothing but u25 and her wits."

Come on Tribune, this has been reported many times before!

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: 63 BBC2SE
Programme Name: Ever Wondered?
Date/Time of airing: Sat 9/3 9:30am

The description shown is not for this episode.

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: 63 BBC2SE
Programme Name: Ever Wondered?
Date/Time of airing: Sat 9/3 10:30am

The description shown is the same as the one shown at 09:30. It is not correct for this showing either.

[Paj]

Originally posted by LJ
I have a wishlist for the "Sci-Fi & Fantasy" category - TiVo lists all episodes of Teletubbies because they are flagged as "Fantasy".

Are you saying it should be "documentary"?

[LJ]

Teletubbies:

Originally posted by Paj


Are you saying it should be "documentary"?
No, at the moment Teletubbies is listed as "Children, Educational, Fantasy" - I'd like the "Fantasy" category removed. No other children's programmes are in the "Fantasy" category.

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: 63 BBC2SE
Programme Name: Never Mind the Buzzcocks
Date/Time of airing: Sun 10/3 12:15am

Should be excluded under the 28 day rule as it's a repeat from last Monday. OAD is incorrectly shown as 9/3/2002.

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: 57 BBC1SE
Programme Name: Top of the Pops
Date/Time of airing: Sun 10/3 2:10am

Should be excluded under the 28 day rule as it's a repeat from the day before. OAD is way off at 28/10/2000.

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: 60 ITV1CAR
Programme Name: Ultimate Questions
Date/Time of airing: Sun 10/3 11:50pm

The description shown is a generic one. RadioTimes has "The ethical debate with Martyn Lewis focuses on class."

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: 60 ITV1CAR
Programme Name: Big Screen X Certificate
Date/Time of airing: Fri 8/3 11:30pm

TiVo had this slot incorrectly listed as "The Works: Regional arts series...".

[LJ]

Originally posted by Phil B


I disagree, 'cos when it comes out, I want my TiVo to record the 3 hour directors cut of "Teletubbies Episode 1 - The Return of Tinky-Winky" :D
:D Surely that's episode 6 - Ep 1 would be "La La - The Phantom Menace" :D

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: 62 BBC2SE
Programme Name: Gardener's World
Date/Time of airing: Fri 22/3 8:30pm & Fri 15/3 8:30pm

TiVo has the 22nds programme as 'Won't Record - another showing available within 28 days'. I haven't seen a schedule for the 22nd, but I think it's very unlikely to be a repeat in prime time.

Also, the descriptions shown are the same for the 15th and the 22nd. Both are wrong because it's the description for the programme on the 8th !

The OAD for the 15th and the 22nd are both incorrectly shown as 18/05/2001.

:(

[Gonker]

In the belief that someone from Tribune does read this, or has messages passed on - will you please improve your data on Rugby matches to ensure that you differentiate between showings of rugby union & rugby league - these are two different sports and I only want my season pass/wishlist/thumbs up/suggestions to be recording one of them!


TIA

Gordon

[Modan]

Originally posted by Gonker
In the belief that someone from Tribune does read this, or has messages passed on - will you please improve your data on Rugby matches to ensure that you differentiate between showings of rugby union & rugby league - these are two different sports and I only want my season pass/wishlist/thumbs up/suggestions to be recording one of them!


TIA

Gordon

Me too! I set up a season pass for Super League as a way round it, but it shouldn't really be necessary

[Yogi]

Agreed !

My problem is simply the crap data.

I used the 'Inside TiVo' last night - went to BBC/SPORT, and clicked on the 'Six Nations' link.

I found myself viewing the program details for a Super League match I had already seen !

TiVo is useless without good data - do Tribune not have anyone in the UK who checks/provides listings ?

What are the chances of getting the Rugby Sevens and Rugby Tens listed correctly ?


That said, the ability to set a wishlist season pass for 'Rugby' is a great improvment over the old software.

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: C4
Channel number: 54
Programme Name: Teachers
Date/Time of airing: Wed 13/03/2002 2200-2300

View Recording History says this will not be recorded as it has previously been recorded in the last 28 days. As this is the first episode of a new series I think there may be a problem with the OAD for this one. I have recorded the re-runs of the previous series but the OAD dates should stop them interefering with each other. Also the description box for the new episode this Wednesday shows a date of 2001, heavily hinting last series' data is being used.

I have forced this to record for this episode but hope it will be fixed for the rest of the series, otherwise the Season Pass isn't able to do its job.

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Provider: Terrestrial
Channel: C4
Channel number: 54
Programme Name: World Rally Championship
Date/Time of airing: Sat/Sun 09 and 10/03/2002

These didn't record as part of the season pass which did pick up Friday 08/03/2002 World Rally Championship. This season pass also picks up the intervening weeks' preview programmes on a Sturday.

It looks like Sat and Sun 09 and 10/03/2002 programmes had their names changed to just "World Rally" - Sunday's definitely did - and were not entered into the normal Season Pass.

I know I have reported this after the event (as I found out about this when the programs weren't recorded) but can this be fixed for the next round of the WRC please?

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: Sky
Channel: C4
Channel number: 104
Programme Name: Daisy Daisy
Date/Time of airing: 15/3/2002 - 10:30pm

The TIVO guide shows Daisy Daisy at 10:30 on Friday.

From other programmes guides it is a new (and different) programme called Does Doug Know (also starring Daisy Donovan).

This one seems to be a new topical panel show.

Daisy Daisy is correctly shown as being on tomorrow.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: Ally McBeal

Problem1: Four episodes have been missed out from TiVo's schedule making the whole thing out of sync. Reported briefly last week, still not fixed, more details here:

Mon 18th Mar 19:00, repeated Tue 19th Mar 03:05
- should be Season 4 episode 8 "The Man With The Bag"
- TiVo has Season 4 episode 12 "Hats off to Larry"

Tue 19th Mar 19:00, repeated Wed 20th Mar 02:40 (TiVo time wrong)
- should be Season 4 episode 9 "Reasons to Believe"
- TiVo has Season 4 episode 13 "Reach out and Touch"

Wed 20th Mar 19:00, repeated Thu 21st Mar 03:00 (TTW)
- should be S4 E10 "The Ex-Files"
- TiVo has S4 E14 "Boy's Town"

Thu 21st Mar 19:00, repeated Fri 22nd Mar 02:40 (TTW)
- should be S4 E11 "Mr. Bo"
- TiVo has S4 E15 "Falling Up"


Problem2: Missing episodes weekday afternoons at 14:00. E4 Seem to be starting from the beginning. TiVo has "To be announced".

Wed 20th Mar 14:00 S1 E1 "Pilot"
Thu 21st Mar 14:00 S1 E2 "Compromising Positions"
Fri 22nd Mar 14:00 E1 E3 "The Kiss"


So in summary, we have 3 seasons being shown all at the same time:
Mon-Thurs 19:00, repeat during night - repeats of Season 4
Tues 21:00, repeated that night, Sun 20:00, Mon 01:00 - new FIRST RUNs from Season 5
Weekdays(?) 14:00 - repeats of Season 1.

Easy! :D

(I think this is a new record, previously held by Stargate SG-1 which had 3 seasons on at the same time but not on the same channel - 2 seasons on Sky One and the 3rd on Channel 4!)

[KlasLindgren]

Having just bought the (nearly)best thing since sliced bread(Tivo),
it is ever so dissapointing to loose the last two minutes of
my favourite program. Especially when that was the only recording on that evening, and it could happily recorded for another 5miniutes. Some programmes are also cut
short at the start. This is the 21st century. There is more computing power around than you can shake s tick at, and still I loose a
bit of my program.

[Paj]

Originally posted by KlasLindgren
This is the 21st century. There is more computing power around than you can shake s tick at, and still I loose a
bit of my program.

Agreed. Plus, we've had clocks for centuries, but the BBC still can't read one.

[Ianl]

analog cable
GU2 postcode
channel 19
granada plus
hill street blues
11pm till midnight

problem: granada pluss stops at 11pm and granada men and motors takes over the channel

[kjwinsor]

Source: Analogue terrestrial
Channel: ITV1CAR
Postcode: AL1
Date: 16/03/02

Formula 1 Racing

The practice runs from 04:30-06:15

Tivo listing shows this as two programmes: 04:30-06:00 and 06:00-06:15. As the first part is scheduled to be recorded via my Season Pass, the second part is being picked up by the 28-day rule and will not be recorded.

[cjhcjh]

Originally posted by Richardr
Postcode: AL3
Provider: Sky
Channel: C4
Channel number: 104
Programme Name: Daisy Daisy
Date/Time of airing: 15/3/2002 - 10:30pm

The TIVO guide shows Daisy Daisy at 10:30 on Friday.

From other programmes guides it is a new (and different) programme called Does Doug Know (also starring Daisy Donovan).

This one seems to be a new topical panel show.

Daisy Daisy is correctly shown as being on tomorrow.

Identical problem for me (including correct listing of DD).
Postcode: SW1V
Provider: ITV-Digital
Channel: C4
Programme No.: 4
Name: Daisy Daisy
Date/Time: 15/3/2002 - 10:30pm

[groovyclam]

Postcode: CW8
Provider: Sky
Channel: E4
Channel number: 205
Programme Name: Friends
Date/Time of airing: 22/3/2002 - onwards

The descriptions for the episodes of Friends shown on and after 22nd March indicate the wrong episodes.

They don't match the listings magazines that came out this week.

I think you should check with E4 since it is clear they have updated their schedules since the March information was first inputted.

Other programmes may be affected also.

[GarySargent]

Postcode: WF17
Provider: NTL Digital
Channel: Ch4
Channel number: 104
Programme Name: Teachers
Date/Time of airing: 13 Mar 2002, 20 Mar 2002, and onwards

The episode at 10pm on Wednesdays is a new series and should have the OAD set to the air date. It is currently set to dates in March 2001 which presumably was last years series.

[Richardr]

Postcode: AL3
Provider: Sky
Channel: BBC1
Channel number: 101
Programme Name: see below
Date/Time of airing: 20 Mar 2002, 21 Mar 2002

TIVO currently has the following:

Weds: 7:30pm - Weird Nature
Weds: 8:00pm - Rockface

Thurs: 8:30pm - This is your Life


Listings magazines, and the BBC web site currently have:

Weds: 7:30pm - Rockface
Weds: 8:20pm - This is your Life

Thurs: 8:30pm - Weird Nature

[mrtickle]

Reported almost a month ago - still not fixed :mad:

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: BBC Choice
Channel Number: 160
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

This is a daily news programme, new and live each day. It is repeated usually at midnight or shortly afterwards.

Problem1: Generic description and all have identical bogus wrong OADs of 30th May 2000. 28 day rule isn't working and repeats aren't detected.

Ie
Mon 25th Mar 20:00, REPEATED Tue 26th Mar 00:00
Tue 26th Mar 20:00, REPEATED Wed 27th Mar 00:00
Wed 27th Mar 20:00, REPEATED Wed 27th Mar 23:55
Thu 28th Mar 20:00, REPEATED Fri 29th Mar 00:00
Fri 29th Mar 20:00, REPEATED Sat 30th Mar 00:00

Cycle continues Mon-Fri.

Problem2: Category is "Variety" which is too sparse. Should also be "News" and "Magazine".


Problem3: From 25th March onwards all the TiVo 8pm transmissions are missing from the guide and a bogus 7pm entry has returned :(

Channel Name: BBC News 24
Channel Number: 507
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: Saturday nights

Liquid News also has a BBC News 24 programme once a week. This is not a repeat of any other showing, it is unique to BBC News 24. Again please set the OAD to the date of each transmission.

Also see Category suggestion above.


Channel Name: BBC One
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: Monday nights/Tuesday early morning

Liquid News also has a BBC One programme once a week. This is not a repeat of any other showing, it is unique to BBC News 24. Again please set the OAD to the date of each transmission.

Also see Category suggestion above.

[tivoa]

An older series of Ally McBeal is being shown on E4 during
the early hours of the morning - typically starting at between
2.30am and 3am, it tends to vary slightly, but is on most
weekdays. Unfortunately, the schedule listings are always
almost exactly ten minutes too late - resulting in the first
ten minutes of the program being missed. Also, the length
in the schedule listings seems to be an hour, but the series
is shown without adverts and the episode length is closer
to 45 minutes.

Regards,
David

[tivoa]

Sorry, I omitted the following standard details from my previous
post above:

Postcode: SO5
Provider: Sky
Channel: E4
Channel number: 205
Programme Name: Ally McBeal
Date/Time of airing: Most weekedays at approx 3am

Regards,
David

[groovyclam]

Postcode: CW8
Provider: Sky
Channel: E4
Channel number: 205
Programme Name: ER & Friends
Date/Time of airing: 22nd March Onwards

Both these programmes are showing either generic or incorrect episode details.

The E4 channel has obviously updated its schedules since Tribune first input the March data. E4 should be contacted for more accurate listings for the remainder of March. ( Theory also supported by other recent postings about E4 - Ally McBeal - in this thread )

I would appreciate it if Tribune could *actively* check weekly with both E4 and Paramount for updated listings and changes to earlier listings.

Both these channels are two of the more popular channels in the UK and both appear to have quite volatile schedules. Regular weekly checks for late changes to existing data would cut down on postings in this thread.

[groovyclam]

Postcode: CW8
Provider: All
Channel: BBC2
Channel number: 102 on Sky ( and other numbers via other providers )
Programme Name: Horizon
Date/Time of airing: 21st March 2002

The title of this episode is correct ( "Vanished - The Plane that Disappeared" ) but the description is for an earlier programme about dinosaurs.

[jont]

Postcode: G12
Provider: On-Digital
Channel: C4
Channel number: 4
Programme Name: Frasier
Date/Time of airing: March 2002

paramount are showing repeats every day and guide data for new series on C4 is not being picked up for season pass manager/first runs properly ...

view upcoming shows not a good idea as C4 data only looking 1 week ahead at the moment ...

[Gonker]

For the Tribune data inputter in the USA!- re RUGBY.

We have asked for the data to be improved to differentiate between Rugby League & Rugby Union. As u are probably not familiar with this sport please note the following:

"Super 12's" on Sky is UNION
"Challenge Cup" on BBC is LEAGUE
"Super League" on Sky is LEAGUE
"Zurich Premiership"on Sky is UNION
"Rugby Club" on Sky is UNION - and is a weekly programme with several repeats that should have "R" to ensure the 28 day rule on Season passesBrown
"Rugby Special" on BBC is Union
"Six Nations" shown anywhere is Union
"Tri-Nations" is Union
" Sevens Rugby" if shown is Union

Hope this partial listing helps & look forward to better data

[adheyes]

Postcode: PR2
Service: ITV Digital
Channel: C4

I have had to create three season passes to record one programme!

World Rally
World Rally Championship
World Rally Championships

Please could Tribune agree on a title for this sport. The solution used for Formula 1 Racing is ideal.

[richngill]

- SL1
- ITVDigital
- Paramount
- 39
- Grosse Pointe
- 19:30 16/3/02
- This is a new episode - not a repeat

The epsiode title and description is identical last Sunday's .

Tonight's episode is called "Mommie Dearest" Series 1, episode 6, not "Halloween" Series 1, episode 5

[kjwinsor]

Please could Tribune agree on a title for this sport. The solution used for Formula 1 Racing is ideal.

Any bets that next week F1 Season Passes will start recording World Rally Championships? :)

[DavidFuller]

BBC1 England
DSAT Channel 101

In addition to the problems reported last Wednesday still not fixed concerning 20th/21st March

=======================
TIVO currently has the following:

Weds: 7:30pm - Weird Nature
Weds: 8:00pm - Rockface

Thurs: 8:30pm - This is your Life


Listings magazines, and the BBC web site currently have:

Weds: 7:30pm - Rockface
Weds: 8:20pm - This is your Life

Thurs: 8:30pm - Weird Nature
=======================

Friday 22nd March 20.30

TiVo says TBA
Radio Times says Vicar of Dibley

[DavidFuller]

Is there any way of incorporating the following rule into the data for The Late Show with David Letterman on ITV2.

Currently the show is shown twice a night.

Once at 7pm and once late (varies nightly, but usually 11pm or midnight)

The late slot is always the show transmitted on CBS in the US - the night before - except Monday - when Friday's CBS show is TXed. (The rule applies even during re-runs)

The 7pm show is re-run of the late version from the previous night.

In other words.

The show shown on Monday 18th March on CBS, will be shown on ITV2 on Tuesday 19th at Midnight and Wednesday 20th at 7pm.

At the very least would it be possible for the 7pm show to be shown as as repeat of the previous night's late showing - this would make season passes better.

But my guess is the guide data from the CBS show - concerning guests etc. is better than the guide data we get for ITV2.

Dave

[ozsat]

I would like to see a similar thing with WWF Wrestling.

WWF Raw here on Friday night (and the repeats for the following few days) is the episode shown in the US on a Monday night.

WWF Smackdown! here on Saturday (and the repeats for the following few days) is the episode shown in the US on a Thursday night.

We get not programme details at all - but I understand that the US TiVo's usually do.

[Pop!]

- Postcode CB3 6
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) NTL Digital
- Channel Name SETH
- Channel Number 740
- Programme Name All
- Time/Date of airing All day, everyday
- Problem encountered

The programme listings do not match up to what is on. Looking carefully, it appears that the programmes are on about 5 hours earlier than listed. I have reported this same problem for NTL analogue midlands (LE5 3) over a year ago.
Coincidentally, SETH is an Indian channel and the time difference between UK and India is about +5 hours. Is someone supplying programme times without accounting for timezones?

Cheers
Pop!

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Classic Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: multiple, see below
Problem: Many problems with guide data for this programme still remain

Fixed 1: Incorrect category "specials" removed - thanks :)

Problem 2: The Original Air Dates are wrong for every single episode in the TiVo schedule for Granada Plus. They are 1989 episodes, not 2002 episodes. The correct OADs are available on the web at the corrie.net site and the table below.

Problem 3: Some synopses are still wrong. They have not been fully correct since last year (2001) :(.

Problem 4: Some synopses seem to be truncated down to a single sentence. In the past they have copied (exactly!) the first few sentences of the Granada & fan site synopses (indicating a common source).

Problem 5: It really shouldn't take 3 full months to fix guide data after a problem is first reported.

Common symptoms:
- blocks of episodes all 1 or 2 days out
- blocks of episodes all with the same synopsis and IsEpisode flags are set to false, meaning all 3 showings are recorded and 28 day rule fails.
- then there's a block of episodes correct and back on track, and just as I think it's fixed it goes wrong again!

In the table below, the Original Air Dates and episode numbers come from
http://www.corrie.net/updates/classic/1989.html and the official Granada site
http://www.gplus.co.uk/listings/index.php3?Programme=Classic_Coronation_Street
The synopses from the websites, digiguide and the Sky EPG all match.


EpNo. Original Air Date G+ showing airdate: TiVo synopsis: Comments
2994 Mon 20th Nov 1989 11th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 2994+5 TiVo had two synpopses
11th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 2994+5 TiVo had two synpopses
11th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 2994+5 TiVo had two synpopses
2995 Wed 22nd Nov 1989 12th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 2996 TiVo wrong
12th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 2996 TiVo wrong
12th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 2996 TiVo wrong
2996 Fri 24th Nov 1989 13th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 2997 TiVo wrong
13th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 2997 TiVo wrong
13th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 2997 TiVo wrong
n/a 14th Mar 2002 09:00 no episode today n/a
14th Mar 2002 12:00 no episode today n/a
14th Mar 2002 18:30 no episode today n/a
2997 Mon 27th Nov 1989 15th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 2998 TiVo wrong
15th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 2998 TiVo wrong
15th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 2998 TiVo wrong
n/a 17th Mar 2002 15:00 Generic Omnibus TiVo ok

2998 Wed 29th Nov 1989 18th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
18th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
18th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
2999 Fri 1st Dec 1989 19th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
19th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
19th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
3000 Mon 4th Dec 1989 20th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3000 TiVo ok
20th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3000 TiVo ok
20th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3000 TiVo ok
3001 Wed 6th Dec 1989 21st Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
21st Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
21st Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
3002 Fri 8th Dec 1989 22nd Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
22nd Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
22nd Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3000 TiVo wrong
n/a 24th Mar 2002 15:00 Generic Omnibus TiVo ok

3003 Mon 11th Dec 1989 25th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3004 TiVo wrong
25th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3004 TiVo wrong
25th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3004 TiVo wrong
3004 Wed 13th Dec 1989 26th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3005 TiVo wrong
26th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3005 TiVo wrong
26th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3005 TiVo wrong
3005 Fri 15th Dec 1989 27th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3006 TiVo wrong
27th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3006 TiVo wrong
27th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3006 TiVo wrong
3006 Mon 18th Dec 1989 28th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3007 TiVo wrong
28th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3007 TiVo wrong
28th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3007 TiVo wrong
3007 Wed 20th Dec 1989 29th Mar 2002 09:00 Episode 3008 TiVo wrong
29th Mar 2002 12:00 Episode 3008 TiVo wrong
29th Mar 2002 18:30 Episode 3008 TiVo wrong
n/a 31st Mar 2002 15:00 Generic Omnibus TiVo ok

3008 Fri 22nd Dec 1989 1st Apr 2002 09:00 Episode 3008 TiVo ok
1st Apr 2002 12:00 Episode 3008 TiVo ok
1st Apr 2002 18:30 Episode 3008 TiVo ok
3009 Mon 25th Dec 1989 2nd Apr 2002 09:00 Episode 3009 TiVo ok but truncated
2nd Apr 2002 12:00 Episode 3009 TiVo ok but truncated
2nd Apr 2002 18:30 Episode 3009 TiVo ok but truncated
3010 Wed 27th Dec 1989 3rd Apr 2002 09:00 Episode 3010 TiVo ok but truncated
3rd Apr 2002 12:00 Episode 3010 TiVo ok but truncated
3rd Apr 2002 18:30 Episode 3010 TiVo ok but truncated
3011 Fri 29th Dec 1989 4th Apr 2002 09:00 Episode 3011 TiVo ok but truncated
4th Apr 2002 12:00 Episode 3011 TiVo ok but truncated
4th Apr 2002 18:30 Episode 3011 TiVo ok but truncated

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 205
Programme Name: So Graham Norton
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Reported a month ago - still not fixed.

The daily showings on E4 are set to IsEpisode False so the 28-day rule is not picking up repeats. The episodes are:

18th Mar 20:40, REPEATED 19th Mar 01:05
19th Mar 20:35, REPEATED 20th Mar 01:05
etc.

Each night programme is a repeat of the evening before. Do a "view upcoming" and the pattern is obvious. Please fix it!

[sanderton]

Originally posted by Gonker
For the Tribune data inputter in the USA!- re RUGBY.



Also,
Heineken Cup is Union
Zurich Championship is Union
Parker Pen Shield is Union
Welsh-Scottish League is Union.
Principality Cup is Union
Scrum V is Union
World Wide Rugby is Union
Ford Rugby Live is Union
Rugby Special is Union

Actually, pretty much anything that isn't Super League or Challenge Cup is Union!

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Provider: Aerial
Channel Name: C4
Channel Number: 54
Programme Name: World Rally
Time/Date of airing: 23rd and 24th March 2002

Season Pass won't record Sat 23rd (1900-2000) and Sun 24th (1855-1930) as it claims they will be covered by the 28 day rule. This is because the OAD has been set to 22/03/2002 (UK date format) on both editions so only the Friday 22nd March 2002 edition will be recorded. OAD needs to be set to 23/03/2002 and 24/03/2002 respectively.

[Tiny Clanger]

Postcode: BN18
Provider: Aerial
Channel: BBC1
Channel number: 31
Programme Name: Rosemary's Baby
Date/Time of airing: March 19, 2002 23:55

According to Digiguide, this should be The Producers, not Rosemary's Baby!

(I've set TiVo to record it - we'll see what turns up. Fortunately I'd quite like to see both of them ;) )

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Provider: Aerial
Channel Name: C4
Channel Number: 54
Programme Name: Teachers
Time/Date of airing: 20th March 2002, 2200-2300

Season Pass won't record this as it claims it has already been recorded within 28 days. As this is a new series that might be difficult :-) This was reported a week ago but there has been no change.

It all appears to be down to OADs:

20/03/2002 2200-2300 OAD=28/03/2001 (2001!)

The first showing on 27/03/2002 2200-2300 has a correct OAD.

Repeat showings have incorrect OADs as well:

20/03/2002 0005-0105 OAD=21/03/2001 (2001!) is repeat of 13/03/2002
27/03/2002 0005-0105 also OAD=21/03/2001 (2001!) is repeat of 20/03/2002

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG8
Provider: Aerial
Channel Name: BBC2M
Channel Number: 64
Programme Name: When Louis met ...
Time/Date of airing: 26th March 2002, 2100-2150

This has reverted back to its full name on TiVo, this episode being "When Louis Met Max Clifford". Season Passes for "When Louis Met ..." are *not* picking up this episode.

[lisper]

Postcode: RG22
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Dead Ringers
Time/Date of airing: 22nd March 2002, 2100-2130

Tivo currently showing this as To Be Announced (it was announced last Tuesday in the radio times).

[GarySargent]

Originally posted by lisper
Postcode: RG22
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Dead Ringers
Time/Date of airing: 22nd March 2002, 2100-2130

Tivo currently showing this as To Be Announced (it was announced last Tuesday in the radio times).

Aha! I wondered why Search by Title didn't find it last night! Assumed it wasn't on! :)

[Richardr]

Originally posted by lisper
Postcode: RG22
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Dead Ringers
Time/Date of airing: 22nd March 2002, 2100-2130

Tivo currently showing this as To Be Announced (it was announced last Tuesday in the radio times).
You are sure about this aren't you?

My TIVO has Lenny Henry at that time, as does the Sky EPG, digiguide, my listings magazine, the Radio Times online, and the BBC website.

All of the above (except TIVO which has tba) have the Vicar of Dibley at 9:30pm.

I thought Dead Ringers was a one-off pilot last week.

[Paj]

I'm pretty sure it's a series.

[mrtickle]

Yes it is a series, but there may be a gap between the pilot and series.

Given that there are "consequences" if the Sky EPG is wrong then I'd go with the Sky EPG. It may be worth checking the Digiguide fora as well, as someone there may have already queried it and they have a very fast turnaround of corrections.

[GarethR]

Postcode: RM14
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 102
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Programme day/time : every weekday @ 18:00

This is scheduled as a 20-minute programme, but if you leave TiVo to record it at its scheduled duration, it ALWAYS loses a couple of minutes off the end.

Is there any realistic chance of this being fixed? It's clearly been a problem for a very long time. Is it just up to me to work around it with padding?

[AENG]

SG17
Aerial
BBC2 Ch 27
19 March 6:20 p.m.
Techno Games 2002

Wrongly titled "Techno Games 2000" so SP for correct title misses this episode.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by GarethR
Postcode: RM14
Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 102
Programme Name: The Simpsons
Programme day/time : every weekday @ 18:00

This is scheduled as a 20-minute programme, but if you leave TiVo to record it at its scheduled duration, it ALWAYS loses a couple of minutes off the end.

Is there any realistic chance of this being fixed? It's clearly been a problem for a very long time. Is it just up to me to work around it with padding?

I'm afraid you do have to do this yourself - it's a >20 minute programme but scheduled in a 20 min slot ("to make it simpler for the viewers" according to the BBC), and it will also either start early or finish late or both. Your only avenue is to complain to the BBC really. Channel 4 often do the same with US import - sometimes a 55 min slot, but watch out for those nasty 50 min slots because you WILL need padding for the same reason!

[deshepherd]

Postcode: BS6
Provider: Telewest (Active Digital)
Channel Name: CH4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: World Rally Championship
Programme day/time : Fri/Sat/Sun Mar22-24

All 3 programs have same program info (i.e. all say coverage of last day) thus season pass only picks up 1.

This needs to be treated the same as F1 is now ... i.e. prog title "World Rally" with episode titles "Spain: Day1", "Spain: Day2" etc

[thesik]

Postcode: NW3
Provider: Telewest (Active Digital)
Channel Name: TV5
Channel Number: 825
Programme Name: ALL
Programme day/time : ALL

The whole of the EPG for TV5 on TiVo is completely (and I do mean completely) wrong.

First problem is that all TV5 programme times on TiVo EPG are 1 hour in advance of the correct transmission times. TiVo will say a programme begins at 2:05pm when it actually begins at 3:05pm etc. etc. throughout the whole schedule (yes my TiVo is set to the correct time and I'm looking at the UK transmission times for TV5).

Second problem is that, even once you've corrected the hour difference in time, only regular news programmes are correctly scheduled. Any feature programmes in between the regular news programmmes are entirely wrong. An entirely different programme is listed that is not even in this weeks TV5 schedule.

Third Problem, a number of 5 or 10 minute programme slots are left out completely.

Fourth problem, the names of several programmes (which are not long anyway) have been shortened in such a way that the programme title becomes meaningless. OK, the title's in French but how difficult is it to copy the original title.

Kim.

[Mark3270]

Postcode: TR11 3xx
Provider: ITV Digital & Terrestial
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 1
Programme Name: Rockface
Programme Date / Time : Wednesday 20th March - 7.30pm

The EPG had Rockface down as starting at 8.00pm, however it started at 7.30pm. Had a season pass booked :-(

All the newspapers & TV Listings mag's had the correct time !

[Richardr]

Re Rockface - that was originally reported here on the 13th March - and nothing happened.

However, it looks like tonight and Friday night have finally now been corrected on BBC1.

[peterdgray]

Postcode: B90
Provider: ITV Digital & Terrestial
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 2
Programme Name: Horizon
Programme Date / Time : Thursday 21st March - 9pm

Correct Title
Incorrect Programme details: appears to be two weeks old

[Kevin Harrison]

Postcode NG3
Sky Digital
Various channels

ITV- Baddiel and Skinner season pass records repeat on Saturday, even with first run only

ITV 2 - Late show with Letterman - shown twice a day, season pass records both.

CH4 - Teachers season pass didn't record last nights episode - first run set also.

E4 - Friends season pass doesn't catch tonights episode. The only episode first run catches is 4/4.

News 24 - Talking Movies, shown 6 times over the weekend, Tivo tries to record them all.

ITV - Box Office America, shown 3 times a week and tries to record them all.

E4 - Ally mc Beal - first run only catches 2/4 nothing before.

BBC2 - Louis Theroux meets Keith Harris - season pass didn't catch it and I missed it.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by Kevin Harrison

BBC2 - Louis Theroux meets Keith Harris - season pass didn't catch it and I missed it.

Threre is a repeat on BBC Choice - today I think - look out for it :)

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA1
Provider: SkyD
Channel Name: Sky Sports 1/2/3/Extra
Channel Number: 401/2/3/4
Programme Name: Rugby Club
Programme Date / Time : Every Thurs and Friday

The same episode of Rugby Club is shown at various times on Thursday and Friday across four Sky Sports channels. The pattern varies each week.

An auto-record wishlist attempts to record all showings - presumably a problem with IsEpisode.

Also, the Wishlist (Title "RUGBY CLUB") does not show all showings in Upcoming Episodes. If you select a single episode from the Wishlist's Upcoming Episodes and then choose Upcoming Episodes from there, all episodes are shown in the second list??????

Wishlists missing episodes for no obvious reason like this happens a lot with rugby (compare outpust of wishlists for Keyword: RUGBY, Title: RUGBY, Title: RUGBY CLUB and Category: Sport/Rugby to see what I mean. I have to check all 4 to see all pucoming rugby, and even then it sometimes misses programmes like Scrum V.

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA1
Provider: SkyD
Channel Name: Various
Channel Number: various
Programme Name: Various
Programme Date / Time : Various

there seem to be quite a few "orphan" entries in the guide data - episodes of a series that have become disconnected with the others on the same channel, so the same prog has two entries for the same name and channel in Choose by Name.


Two I noticed were Bob the Builder on Nick Jr and Two Fat Ladies on UK Food.

[mrtickle]

Postcode: B29
Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel Name: Granada Plus
Channel Number: 118
Programme Name: Classic Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: multiple

Fantastic! The episodes from 1st April have the correct OADs and correct episode numbers and synopses - got there in the end! TiVo, Tribune - a big thankyou for correcting this :)

[GarySargent]

Thank the Lord - I was sick of seeing MrTickles long posts about classic coronation street. Surely there are no other TiVo users watching such drivel?! :D

[mrtickle]

Says the man who likes Ali G! :D

[cwaring]

Postcode: WF1
Provider: TW AD
Channel Name: Various
Channel Number: various
Programme Name: Various
Programme Date / Time : Various

Having a look around the EPG just now and noticed that all the years ie:
(2002)

are now reading:

(2002xxxx)

where xxxx is a 4 digit number, usually 0323 but occasionally different. It is even showing the same thing for programmes that are YEARS old. eg "Eldorado" on UK Gold

[Gonker]

Hornblower - ITV, new series starts tomorrow, not showing as a season pass.

[bignoise]

Originally posted by cwaring
(2002xxxx) where xxxx is a 4 digit number, usually 0323 but occasionally different. It is even showing the same thing for programmes that are YEARS old. eg "Eldorado" on UK Gold

I've noticed this too - affected programmes also seem to have their episode title listed under the 'Network:' field if you look at the additional guide data screen.

[kjwinsor]

Postcode: AL1
Provider: Analogue terrestrial
Channel Name: C4
Channel Number: 30
Programme Name: Model behaviour
Programme Date / Time : Most weekdays, 10:30 am-ish

Season pass is only picking up first episode. Remainder not being recorded 'due to 28 day rule'.

Each day is in fact a new episode and should be picked up by SP.

[AENG]

"20020323"
The date in near-ISO format, perhaps? :)

[GarySargent]

Its not necessary to report the 20020323 error - they know. It will be corrected in the next download.

[AENG]

SG17
ITV Digital
4 Channel 4
Sunday 31 March 2:15 p.m.
"Gifted"
According to the trail (in sound and vision) at the end of the second episode (6:00 to 6:30 p.m. Saturday 23 March), the final episode will be at the above date and time. EPG, as updated late Saturday, is showing "The Mirror Crack'd" at that time.

[GarySargent]

PLEASE NOW ALSO REPORT ANY SEASON PASS ERRORS INTO THIS THREAD INSTEAD OF THE OLD ONE (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29563)

[Brownedger]

- Postcode: ST68SE
- Service Provider: Sky Digital
- Channel Name: Premiership Plus
- Channel Number: 433
- Programme Name: Middlesborough v Tottenham
- Time/Date of airing: 5.35pm Saturday 30th March 2002
- Problem encountered: This Programme is not in the Guide

[HX|]

Sky Digital
Fox Kids (and FK+1)
610 (and 611)
X Men
20:20 (21:20 on +1)

Generic Program data.

I have 2 SP's setup, one for the 8:20 showing on fox kids, and another for the 9:20 showing on fox kids +1 in case I'm recording something at the time of original showing.

Due to generic data it doesnt detect the +1 showing as being a repeat, so records both.

Also Pokemon on sky1, daily, various times AM, sky/on digital, chans 26 on OD and 106 on SKY - most of the time the data is correct, but 1 out of 15-20 or so episodes just has generic data.

And yes, I am sad for watching animation. :>

[doubledrat]

SP error
sky digital 104 (Channel 4)
Cybernet

Same episode recorded twice this week. This happens ALL the time.

[Richardr]

- Postcode: AL3
- Service Provider: ntl:home
- Channel Name: E4
- Channel Number: 144
- Programme Name: Meet Ricky Gervais
- Time/Date of airing: See below
- Problem encountered: Records repeats

Each week this programme is first shown Sunday night, repeated late that night (Monday morning) and again Monday night / Tuesday morning.

The guide data has been right, including guests, but because isepisode = false all 3 showings are recorded.

[cwaring]

- Postcode: WF1
- Service Provider: Telewest Digital
- Channel Name: C4
- Channel Number: ? (RF)
- Programme Name: The Big Breakfast
- Time/Date of airing:
- Problem encountered: Has same description all week, referencing the 3-hour finale on Friday.

(OK, so it's not a BIG problem as the programme is ending this week, but still...

[HX|]

Same problem as above (with fox kids) with Silver Surfer and Iron Man, time is an hour or two later than xmen (sorry can't be more specific, the remote is across the room and thats too far to move :> ).

Also Cartoon Network, virtually everything - if the program isn't completely different to the one in the guide (60%+ of the time) then listing times are completely different to what is actually shown.

[GarySargent]

HX| I'm not 100% certain you can expect dual Season Passes to prevent repeats. If you have one Season Pass on FK and one on FK+1 then I think they may be treated differently and hence each has its own set of repeats.

I might be wrong.

Have you tried using a title Wishlist instead which covers all channels rather than having multiple Season Passes for the same programme?

[Scorp888]

Postcode KT18 $ky digital

Mash as a season pass records first showing fine with correct info.
Also records second showing, with a generic style.

Mash Surgeons blowing off steam during operations, set in the korean war.

[HX|]

HX| I'm not 100% certain you can expect dual Season Passes to prevent repeats. If you have one Season Pass on FK and one on FK+1 then I think they may be treated differently and hence each has its own set of repeats.

I might be wrong.

Hi gary, dual-season passes do work, as I also have one setup for The Bill - UK Gold and UK Gold 2 - if it misses the 09:00/09:30am and 16:00/16:30 showings on UK Gold then it will get the 18:00/18:30 showings on UK Gold 2.

The data is mostly correct for The Bill (except date being 2001/2002 for episodes from 1994 :> ) but for xmen it's just generic so gets the +1 ones too.


Have you tried using a title Wishlist instead which covers all channels rather than having multiple Season Passes for the same programme?

Yeah I tried this but it kept getting X-men the movie, which takes up a hell of a load of space (and I'm un-upgraded atm, so it meant something would end up deleted) or the X-men evolution episodes on cartoon network, which never actually turn out to be x-men evo, but some other cartoon.

[sanderton]

Postcode: BA4
- Service Provider: Sky Digital
- Channel Name: CBeebies
- Programme Name: All
- Time/Date of airing: All

Virtually all programmes on CBeebies cannot be Season Passed as the guide data does not recognise indiviual episodes of any series, and all programmes are repeated three times a day.

This is a major BBC channel available on al platforms - please get this data fixed. Programme data is defintely available as it is on the BBC's website at:

<URL>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/daylist.cgi?service_id=4672&day=Today</URL>

[goodisonboy]

- Postcode: RG5
- Service Provider: NTL Digital
- Channel Name: CBbeebies
- Channel Number: 599
- Programme Name: Get your Own Back
- Time/Date of airing: Always
- Problem encountered: Programme Title shows as "get on your Back" which shounds like a completely different type of programme!!! :)

[cwaring]

- Postcode: WF1
- Service Provider: Telewest Digital
- Channel Name: UK Gold
- Channel Number: 124
- Programme Name: Dallas
- Time/Date of airing: 10:05am 28/3 (Other showing exhibit same error)
- Problem encountered: Year is given as 1997. Considering that this programme ended in 1991 (confirmed here: http://epguides.com/Dallas/) I'd say this is probably an error :)

[martinh4]

Postcode: M40
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: ITV Granada
Channel Number: 103
Programme Name: Coronation Street
Time/Date of airing: 27 March 2002
Problem encountered: Programme on 1hour Tivo only recorded 30 mins because Guide data was wrong Coronation Street was listed as 7.30-8.00 then Stars and their Doubles 8.00-9.45

[HX|]

Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Diagnosis Murder
Time/Date of airing: Every day since about monday
Problem encountered: Not Recorded.

Recording history says its because the episode has been recorded in the last 28days, despite it not being.

Diagnosis Murder on Hallmark channel is fine.

[AENG]

SG17
ITV Digital
BBC Choice
Ch 7
Wednesday 27 March from 10:25 p.m.
Oscars highlights

EPG (and therefore my recording) was timed: 10:55 p.m. to 12:05 a.m.

RT gave: 10:25 p.m. to 12:05 a.m.

Actually transmitted: Some prog. about page-3 photography (until 11:25 p.m.) followed by a different Jonathan Ross prog. "Stop Kung-Fu".

Result: no sign whatsoever of any Oscar highlights on the recording, leaving me doubly pi**ed off, having already lost the end of the live show due to my not allowing insufficient over-run. :(

[GarySargent]

I'm sure you are not happy but there is little point reporting errors that are in the past as they can't be fixed ;)

[ozsat]

Originally posted by cwaring
- Programme Name: Dallas
- Time/Date of airing: 10:05am 28/3 (Other showing exhibit same error)
- Problem encountered: Year is given as 1997. Considering that this programme ended in 1991 (confirmed here: http://epguides.com/Dallas/) I'd say this is probably an errorThe problem with epguides is that the air-date is for the original country of broadcast and Tribune are trying to give UK users the UK transmission date.

However, I epxect in this case that they was less than 12 months between the US and UK air-dates.

[Paj]

Originally posted by GarySargent
I'm sure you are not happy but there is little point reporting errors that are in the past as they can't be fixed ;)

But maybe they can find out what went wrong and not make the same mistake again. Are you saying I shouldn't tell the restaurant if there's a sticking plaster in my pie?

[GarySargent]

Would you complain that there wasn't a sticking plaster in your pie? ;)

[Paj]

HD9
Sky digital
BBC1
Thursday 4th April
Tomorrow's World

This programme's description is the same as the showing of "Tomorrow's World Live Lab" from the 28th of March ("the single pedal car"). There is another showing of "Tomorrow's World Live Lab" on Wednesday the 3rd ("the horse whip which lets you know if it's been over-used"), so maybe this will be a repeat of that show instead?

Either way, the different titles mean a season pass will not pick it up if the earlier showing cannot be recorded due to a clash.

[Paj]

Originally posted by GarySargent
Would you complain that there wasn't a sticking plater in your pie? ;)

Sorry, I don't understand.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by ozsat
The problem with epguides is that the air-date is for the original country of broadcast and Tribune are trying to give UK users the UK transmission date.


I think that for US series that have long finished, this is the wrong thing to try to do (ironically). There is actually far more benefit in leaving the old US airdates - eg they'd carry on matching the old episode guides.


However, I epxect in this case that they was less than 12 months between the US and UK air-dates.

No way! Dallas finished in the early nineties, even on the BBC!

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by GarySargent
I'm sure you are not happy but there is little point reporting errors that are in the past as they can't be fixed ;)

Mostly yes, but in some cases it's well worth posting here after the event. If martinh4 hadn't posted, I wouldn't have noticed that I only had half of yesterday's Coronation Street until I watched it next week sometime. Thanks to his post, I've found the repeat today on ITV2 (21:30-22:30) and I can
a) set it to record myself
b) mention it here so that martinh4 will also spot it in time (hopefully)

[GarySargent]

Aha just suffered from this myself 5 mins ago. I need the repeat too! DOH! :D

Ok you win - but its my turn to win next time! :)

[AENG]

Sorry, Gary, but getting the guide fixed when we happen to find out in advance that it's wrong is important but only part of the function of this thread, surely. Errors that are only discovered when we come to play back a programme that we have relied on TiVo to bag for us are still errors. Reporting them testifies to the quality (or otherwise) of the data and any manager worth his salt is going to want to know how well his staff are performing, whether their mistakes were rumbled in time to be corrected or not.
I, and I hope others, will continue to flag guide errors that affect us whenever we come across them. To pretend that we're satisfied when we are not is no way to encourage the needed, continuing improvement of the guide data.

[HX|]

Originally posted by GarySargent
I'm sure you are not happy but there is little point reporting errors that are in the past as they can't be fixed ;)

I assume you are talking to AENG - but with my Daignosis murder error it's not just in the past (well it is, but I expect the same to happen again tomorrow), I was giving the information so that maybe it would be fixed for future episodes, else I'll miss Dick Van Dyke and that makes me angry, and when I'm angry I cry, like a baby, whilst watching Mary Poppins.

[irrelevant]

Hmm. Had a season pass for "Shinzo" on Fox Kids earlier in the week that recorded Jackie Chan from that channel instead.

request: I'd like to see TiVo listings for Channel M, Ch#39 MANSTV (available in central Manchester/Salford only). Listings are available at http://www.channelm.co.uk/ but I always forget to look there.. how do I request them added?

[DavidFuller]

Postcode N15
Sky Digital
C104
Channel 4

Several C4 problems with tomorrow (Saturday) and Monday

There is a TBA in the afternoon - and the Robbie Williams movie is listed as Monday at 9pm, rather than Saturday at 9pm.

David

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by DavidFuller
Several C4 problems with tomorrow (Saturday) and Monday


Problems still there. Also:

ntl:
Eurosport (112)
Saturday 30th March. 19:00
Shows "Road to the World Cup", should be F3000 19:00 - 20:00

[ozsat]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
Eurosport (112)
Saturday 30th March. 19:00
Shows "Road to the World Cup", should be F3000 19:00 - 20:00TiVo seems to be carrying the 'Eurosport International' schedules and not those of 'Eurosport GB'.

[djrowley]

The Tivo shedule for Channel 4 this evening 30/3 is completely different from my Radio Times and C4's 4TEXT listings. I've set a manual recording for a progamme I want to see.

Does a posting here get fed back to Tribune/Tivo? If not, where do I send the message?

David

[ozsat]

Tribune do read this thread!

The C4 schedule tonight does seem very different to the normal Saturday schedule - but the TiVo listings are unique!

[Brownedger]

I posted on this thread 5 days ago that the Premiership Plus match this evening on Sky Digital 433 Middlesborough v Tottenham was not in the guide, it still isn't.

There are going to be some dissapointed people returning from their holidays expecting to watch this match on their Tivo's only to find Zilch!!!

No one is more dissapointed than me for wasting my time posting it here if nothing is going to done!!

I know Tribune have been busy correcting guide data errors but wouldn't you expect that they would give some priority to correcting Whole ommisions from the guide especially when it affects the most popular sport in this country?

[AENG]

It's just a week, now, since I posted a Ch4 error affecting a programme trailed on-air and billed in RT as due at 2.15 p.m. tomorrow (Sunday). Even after last night's download EPG still shows it on the wrong day. I've set a manual recording - talk about having a dog and barking yourself!

Of course, since the death of the Queen Mother today, it might be wrong anyway but that's no excuse.

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by ozsat
Tribune do read this thread!

The C4 schedule tonight does seem very different to the normal Saturday schedule - but the TiVo listings are unique!

Careful... Else you'll end up with 'unique' becoming the Ozsat equivalent of Gary's 'soon'. ;-)

Seriously, though, it seems a bit amazing to get one of the 5 major telly channels so desperately wrong. Or are all other schedules desperately wrong? In light of events, I'd hazard a guess that I'll never know.

[Richardr]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
Seriously, though, it seems a bit amazing to get one of the 5 major telly channels so desperately wrong.

Well they also managed it last week for BBC1 as well.

One can only guess that they are working on a very early draft schedule, and are not currently bothering to correct it.

[to be fair having said that, for a long time they had BBC1 wrong last week for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. They eventually corrected Thursday and Friday].

[Richardr]

Postcode AL3
Sky Digital
C103
ITV (Carlton)
Programme - The Premiership
Time Every Sunday at 9:25am

The description for this is wrong every week.

I have finally realised what is happening!

The description being used is for the programme of the same name (and nature) on Irish TV, not the UK's ITV.

[AENG]

Just had a thought. I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, but do you suppose that there might be an element of intent in networks not keeping Tribune up to date with their schedules? As has been aired elsewhere, it may not be in networks' best long-term interest for PVRs (or whatever generic term is now used) to get too good at the job. As I say, just a thought.......