ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors

[dieselnutjob]

"Pulling Power" the ITV1 motoring program is always getting the end chopped off. I have had to put +15 minutes on the end for my season pass.

I think the series ended last week though............

[BaggieBoy]

Programme : Spooks (Series 4 Episode 3)
Channel : BBC3
Time : Thursday 15th September @ 10:30PM

Guide data thinks this is a 30 minute programme (should be 60 minutes). Data thinks that the following programme (Desperate Midwives) starts at 11PM and is an hour long, it actually starts at 11:30PM and is 30 minutes long.

[juphill]

Channel: E4 on NTL
Programme: Without a Trace
Date/Time: 21:00 on Tuesday 20th September
Problem: FROSP not picking up the new series

I posted this problem a month ago and it still has not been fixed. I have had to manually record every episode so far. Please fix this.

[woodie]

Most programs on the Community Access channels 26-30 for Menlo Park and Palo Alto
are indicated as 'Community Access', but it seems that the schedule is provided here:
http://www.communitymediacenter.net/watch/schedules/

Maybe they can provide XML. Actually, I could do the work as a Volunteer, I suppose.
Note: I'm currently working to get RSS feed of their On-Demand content:
http://www.communitymediacenter.net/watch/menlo_webcast/

[ozsat]

Most programs on the Community Access channels 26-30 for Menlo Park and Palo Alto
are indicated as 'Community Access', but it seems that the schedule is provided here:
http://www.communitymediacenter.net/watch/schedules/

Maybe they can provide XML. Actually, I could do the work as a Volunteer, I suppose.
Note: I'm currently working to get RSS feed of their On-Demand content:
http://www.communitymediacenter.net/watch/menlo_webcast/We can only dealwith uK TiVo issues here.

[LJ]

Sky
RH10
Problem: The repeat of next weekend's F1 qualifying session has got into the wrong series:

ITV1LON 24 Sep 23:30 "Motor Racing" "Grand Prix Qualifying: Brazil"

..should be in the series called "Formula One Racing".

[sjp]

can't remember if i've checked after this weekends downloads but next Sundays new Top Gear on BBC2 was down as a 30 minute show with a TBA 30 minutes after... best check your existing SP's to see what they've picked up.

[digital_S]

can't remember if i've checked after this weekends downloads but next Sundays new Top Gear on BBC2 was down as a 30 minute show with a TBA 30 minutes after... best check your existing SP's to see what they've picked up.It's not a new series, it's just a "highlights from the last series" (as it says in the discription, on mine) :p

[LJ]

Sky
RH10
BBC4
Wed 28th Sep 2005 21:30
"The Music of the Primes"
Problem: TiVo has the episode as 30 minutes. It's too early for it to be on the BBC web site, but Digiguide has it as 60 minutes.

[JonO]

Callsign: Sky PremPlus (437)
Postcode: SO16
Programme Name: Premiership Football Birmingham vs Liverpool
Date/Time: 24/9 12:30
Problem: Not in programme guide at all.
Last sync 09:45

[ericd121]

Postcode: MK2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: FIVE
Channel Number: 5
Programme: Mega Structures
Date & Time of Airing: 26/09/2005 19:15
Problem: Broken Season Pass

[nexstar]

Postcode : SO32
Channel : BBC1STH(10)
Programme Name: CITY HOSPITAL (SH335054)
Time/Date : 10am Weekdays
Problem: All episodes appear to be seen as the same so will not get recorded as a SP or Wishlist

Actually, all episodes appear to be the same to me as well...but my wife likes it :)

[leejordan]

Title: Elizabeth I
Channel: C4
Date: Thursday 29th September 2005
Time: 21.00
Postcode: KT8
Provider: NTL

There are two Series IDs for this prog, one for "Elizabeth I" and the other for "Elizabeth 1".

Part 1 is on Thursday 29th and is repeated on Saturday 1st Oct.
Part 2 is on Thursday 6th Oct and is repeated on Saturday 8th Oct.

Lee.

[JeromeO'Donohoe]

Hi,

Sky Digital, London area. Unmodified tivo.

My BBC3 & 4 are just showing "BBC3 Television" and "BBC4 Television" for every show. Anyone any idea what is going on?

cheers!

[cwaring]

You're going to have to be a little more specific I think, Jerome. ie for what period are you seeing this problem. If it is within the next week then you may have a problem. However, as with BBCs 1 and 2, schedules are only released two weeks in advance.

For what it's worth, I haven't noticed any problems here, though I'm in Yorkshire AND with Telewest so it's not much help I suppose :D

[JeromeO'Donohoe]

no listings until the end of time, as far as tivo is concerned, just blocks of 4 hours of "BBC3 Telelvision"

[ozsat]

BBC3 and BBC4 listings run up to (and including) 7th October on TiVo - which is correct as the BBC have gone no further.

If you have 'BBC3 Television' or 'BBC4 Television' listing before the 8th October - then you may have a problem with your daily calls.

[JeromeO'Donohoe]

daily call happened at midnight, no other bother. this is extremely annoying!

[JeromeO'Donohoe]

turns out my account was in deficit, thanks to a buggered-up direct debit. weird that those channels went first! Customer Services were FANTASTIC. First time in 3 years i've needed to call them, and they were great. Such a shame I will soon have to bin Tivo for Sky + :-(((

[aerialplug]

Title: Elizabeth I
Channel: C4
Date: Thursday 29th September 2005
Time: 21.00
Postcode: KT8
Provider: NTL

There are two Series IDs for this prog, one for "Elizabeth I" and the other for "Elizabeth 1".

Part 1 is on Thursday 29th and is repeated on Saturday 1st Oct.
Part 2 is on Thursday 6th Oct and is repeated on Saturday 8th Oct.

Lee.

Looking at the metadata, I think someone has gotten really confused with this one. It's been given a 2 star rating, something normally only given to films. How can they given a rating to a drama that hasn't even aired yet? There are quite a few movies and dramas about Elizabeth - I suspect someone has mixed it up with one of these.

[RichieB]

Callsign: Channel 5
Programme Name: Home and Away
Date/Time: 03 Oct 18:00
Problem: Did not record using the season pass last night. No info in the recording history and no previous problems (been running for 5 months now).

Irate wife :)

[cwaring]

It recorded fine here, but then I have my SP set to FR&R not FRO. I think the problem was that the OAD was set to Mon 20th Sep 2004. Did you remember to record the repeat today? If not there's always the Omnibus on Saturday. The rest of this week'd eps are fine, but I would suggest you change your SP :)

[RichieB]

Hi Carl,

Thanks for the info but what is the OAD? Forgot about the repeat but er' indoors may have remembered!!!

We may have changed the SP because we were on 2 weeks holiday and forgot to reset it... You should have seen her eyes by the end of 8 straight episodes!!!

I'll make sure that she records the Omnibus if she's forgotten the repeat.

[cwaring]

OAD = Original Air Date. This is part of the meta-data by which Tivo decides if it should record something or not. Also, see PM.

[ozsat]

Not an error as its a late change - but worth a mention: BBC ONE on 4th October

2235 "...and it's goodnight from him" a tribute to Ronnie Barker.

[ericd121]

Not an error as its a late change - but worth a mention: BBC ONE on 4th October

2235 "...and it's goodnight from him" a tribute to Ronnie Barker.Here is the full list of changes on BBC1 tonight, from
http://www.radiotimes.com/tvscheduleupdates/.

BBC1 schedule changes

10:35pm Ronnie Barker - a Tribute
11:30pm Medium - was 11:05pm
12:15am Film: Dead Heat - was 11:50pm
1:50am Sign Zone: See Hear - was 1:25am
2:35am Sign Zone: Bring Your Husband to Heel - was 2:10am
3:05am Sign Zone: No Waste like Home - was 2:40am
3:35am Sign Zone: Ray Mears's Bushcraft - was 3:10am
4:35am BBC News 24 - was 4:10am

BBC1 Scotland schedule changes

10:35pm Ronnie Barker - a Tribute
11:30pm The Adventure Show - was 11:05pm
12:20am Medium - was 11:55pm
1:05am BBC News 24 - was 12:40
1:50am Sign Zone: See Hear - was 1:25am
2:35am Sign Zone: Bring Your Husband to Heel - was 2:10am
3:05am Sign Zone: No Waste like Home - was 2:40am
3:35am Sign Zone: Ray Mears's Bushcraft - was 3:10am
4:35am BBC News 24 - was 4:10am

BBC1 Northern Ireland schedule changes

10:35pm Spotlight - as scheduled
11:05pm Ronnie Barker - a Tribute
12:00am Medium - was 11:50pm
12:45am Film: Dead Heat - was 12:35am
2:20am BBC News 24
2:35am Sign Zone: Bring Your Husband to Heel - was 2:10am
3:05am Sign Zone: No Waste like Home - was 2:40am
3:35am Sign Zone: Ray Mears's Bushcraft - was 3:10am
4:35am BBC News 24 - was 4:10am

Folks on the Hill at 11:05pm will now be showing tomorrow night.

[RichieB]

Thanks Carl

[sjp]

sticking this in here as I can't be the only one wondering...

when might the more4 channel be added and the listings be downloaded?

tia

[ozsat]

sticking this in here as I can't be the only one wondering...

when might the more4 channel be added and the listings be downloaded?

tiaIt will be added to TiVo when it is added to the EPG.

Freeview and Telewest users already have them.

[cwaring]

I am well aware that this one is three weeks away and may yet be fixed, but thought it worth a heads-up :)

Callsign: SKYONE
Programme Name: Stargate SG1
Date/Time: 25th October, 2005 @ 20:00
Problem: Won't record. Thinks it's same ep as previous week. It's actually S9E3, "Origin"

EDITED TO ADD:
As I suspected, it's been sorted already :D

[cwaring]

when might the more4 channel be added and the listings be downloaded?
It will be added to TiVo when it is added to the EPG.
Available now!

I've just used Tivoweb to set a SP for "The West Wing" on More4 :D:D

(Sorry, just had to share ;))

[ericd121]

Postcode: MK2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: MORE4
Channel Number: 13
Programme: The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Date & Time of Airing: Mon-Thu 8:30pm; Repeated Tues-Fri 3am-ish
Problem: Generic OAD

This is a topical programme broadcasting a different edition four days a week.

It's actually being broadcast a mere 30 minutes after its U.S. airing.

At the moment, only one episode, instead of the expected eight, is being picked up by the SP.

Do I win a prize for posting the first MORE4 error? :p

[nathan]

Postcode: HA8
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: ITV3
Channel Number: 34
Programme: Jeeves and Wooster
Problem: Broken Season Pass - two SPs for the same series are available

[nathan]

Postcode: HA8
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 2
Programme: Elusive Peace
Date: 10/10/2005 9pm
Problem: Broken Season Pass - part 1 of this series of 3 is on a different SP to part 2.

[lcsneil]

Available now!



Not here it isn't despite a forced call about 2 hours ago. :(

Neil

[cwaring]

That's very odd :confused: Here's my SP for "The West Wing" :) It was created just before I posted that message.

[sjp]

not on Sky yet, who knows why - it's being trailed as being on channel 165... i guess carl has his 'cos he's on TeNleTweLst.

this is going to cost me precious sleep. i'll have left for work before it arrives on Mon AM (unless it arrives tomorrow) and I'll have to do a forced download when I get in 14 hours later which is 10 hours before I have to get up and do it all again. by the time the download finishes I'll not be able to get my must have 8 hours sleep.

and carl, no seaon pass for The Sopranos??? get a grip man :)

[cwaring]

not on Sky yet, who knows why - it's being trailed as being on channel 165... i guess carl has his 'cos he's on TeNleTweLst.
I had assumed that all data was downloaded to all platforms at the same time. Wrong again, it seems!

Oh, and how do you pronounce "TeNleTweLst"? :D

[ozsat]

RE: More 4 - it will be in Monday morning's update for NTL and Sky - although it is looking likely that NTL may not have it for launch.

[lcsneil]

Postcode: W12
Platform: Sky
Channel Name: Living (& Living +1)
Channel Number: 112, 113
Programme: Will & Grace

Generic episode listings on nearly every occurrence, causes FRO on the SP to fail.

Neil

[DX30]

My TiVo has the Freeview More4 listings, but on channel 35 rather than 13.

Since 35 is used in Wales I'm guessing there is some confusion between HTV West and HTV Wales. My other channels are correct for my SN5 postcode, so it looks like a problem with More4 only. It may resolve itself anyway as I believe More4 in Wales is to move to 13 with the upcoming Freeview EPG reshuffle.

[blindlemon]

Same here: SN16 has More4 on 35 when it should be 13.

[alphabeta]

Program: From Our Own Correspondent
Channel: BBCR4FM (Sky 854)
Problem: "Original Air Date" has been wrong on several (most?) shows causing recording problems.

[warrenrb]

Postcode: BT4
Platform: NTL Digital
Channel Name: MORE4
Programme: The Daily Show with Jon Stewart

Can I second the previous report for the Daily Show. Having tried (and failed) previously on this thread to get the season pass for the CNN version of this show fixed, can we PLEASE have this one fixed? PLEASE?

Or does someone in Tribune really hate Jon Stewart?

[mrtickle]

I'd like to echo that. I've been trying to get the CNN series fixed for years and never got anywhere. It's good to see the More4 series using the same Season Pass, but please let's have it fixed!

[ericd121]

Heads Up.

As I stated above, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart has been given Generic OADs, and is being broadcast Mon-Thu at 8:30pm and repeated Tues-Fri 3am-ish except there is no 3am repeat in the early hours this Thursday; i.e. the Wednesday 12th Oct 8:30pm show is not being repeated.

This wouldn't matter so much if the Season Pass worked... :rolleyes:

[Edit] I have just checked The Daily Show's listing on TV.com (http://www.tv.com/the-daily-show/show/1293/episode_listings.html&season=10) and it looks like the show is on hiatus, with no new show until Monday 17th Oct.

So...it looks like More4 is broadcasting the repeats also being broadcast in America this week; so if you've already, ahem, downloaded them or seen them on CNN, you don't need to panic till next week. ;)

[mrtickle]

A small correction - the problem is nothing to do with the OAD(s), which only affect very rare "first run only" season passes (ie with old and new series being run concurrently on the same channel eg Simpsons on Sky One).

The problem with this Season Pass is that the Episode IDs are all the same, so the 28-day rule kicks in and decides not to record more than one because they are set as Duplicates. ie Every More4 broadcast is marked as Episode EP5302080174, and every CNN broadcast is marked as Episode EP5302080149.

[Bogget]

Ch166 NTL More 4
ch 167 More 4+
ch 174 Horror ch

all there and working but where is my EPG for them my EPG goes from 145 to 190 nothing in between its there on my Pace but not on my TiVo why?

[cwaring]

Episode Num Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time Mins
The Siege (1/2) Fri 18th Mar 2005 SKYONE Wed 12th Oct 20:00 60
The Siege (2/2) Wed 12th Oct 2005 SKYONE Wed 12th Oct 21:00 60

A FROSP will not the first episode.

On a personal note, can I say that it's great to be able to post stuff like this now that I have Tivoweb :D

[ozsat]

Ch166 NTL More 4
ch 167 More 4+
ch 174 Horror ch

all there and working but where is my EPG for them my EPG goes from 145 to 190 nothing in between its there on my Pace but not on my TiVo why?It sounds as if you have not set up 'Channels I Receive' - what is your postcode?

[mrtickle]

Episode Num Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time Mins
The Siege (1/2) Fri 18th Mar 2005 SKYONE Wed 12th Oct 20:00 60
The Siege (2/2) Wed 12th Oct 2005 SKYONE Wed 12th Oct 21:00 60

A FROSP will not the first episode.


Yes. This is correct. The Seige part 1 and 2 is the last 2 episodes of Season 1, and they were shown earlier this year.

No-one should have a FRO SP for this series; it's not one of the very rare series that needs or benefits from a FRO SP. It's asking for trouble to set a FRO SP, see endless threads going back 3 1/2 years :)

In this case it's actually part 2 which has wrong guide data, because its OAD should be March and not this week, but this will only affect people who haven't read the FAQ and have set up a FRO SP.


On a personal note, can I say that it's great to be able to post stuff like this now that I have Tivoweb :D

Indeed. Have you spotted the one piece of guide data in TiVoweb (with no extra modules) that the TiVo UI never displays? (Hint - it's between the episode title and the OAD).

I realise you were only posting a heads-up so here is my part of that heads-up - please read the FAQ folks and DON'T use FRO SPs except in very very rare cases. :)

[cwaring]

In this case it's actually part 2 which has wrong guide data, because its OAD should be March and not this week.
Indeed.

I realise you were only posting a heads-up so here is my part of that heads-up - please read the FAQ folks and DON'T use FRO SPs except in very very rare cases. :)
So can I use one for SG1 then? (repeats on a weekend!) See, they are useful :)

(Sorry, just got up. Sarcasm is high:D)

[ericd121]

Postcode: MK2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: MORE4
Channel Number: 13
Programme: The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Date & Time of Airing: Mon-Thu 8:30pm; Repeated Tues-Fri 3am-ish
Problem: Generic Episode IDs

This has been partially fixed - hurray! :up:

However, one episode still has a Generic Episode ID
Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time
Sun 23rd Jan 2005 MORE4 Mon 17th Oct 20:30
Sun 23rd Jan 2005 MORE4 Tue 18th Oct 02:30and so will not be recorded.

[sanderton]

Rugby Union
Episode Title Tri-Nations: Great Britain v New Zealand
Episode Description The Tri-Nations match between Great Britain and New Zealand at Loftus Road. Great Britain play their first game in this year's tournament against a side they beat twice in 2004.
Episode Number
Duration 2:00
Original Air Date Sat 29th Oct 2005
Genres Rugby, Sports Event
Type Series
Channel 404 SKYSPX
Showing Date Sat 29th Oct 23:00


This is not rugby union, it's rugby league. Understandable error as there's a union competition called the tri-nations too.

[sanderton]

W.I.T.C.H.
Channel 609 JETIXUK
Showing Date Sat 22nd Oct 09:00 and many others

No episode data for this, so all record. Please save my hard disk from being filled with dozen copies of my daughters favourite.

[andy80085]

Postcode: G4
Platform: NTL
Channel Name: Scottish
Channel Number: 103
Programme: Scotsport SPL
Date: 17/10/2005
Problem: Episode did not record as "previously recorded within 28 days", however this was the first and only showing of this episode.

[cwaring]

Bleak House
This high-profile new series seems to have a broken SP already :(

Episode Num Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time Mins
UNKNOWN (1/15) Thu 27th Oct 2005 BBC1NTH Thu 27th Oct 20:00 60
UNKNOWN (2/15) Fri 28th Oct 2005 BBC1NTH Fri 28th Oct 20:30 30

Edit: Reported this yesterday and was fixed today. I assume the two events weren't related :D

[digital_S]

Nothing major here, just a typo, maybe? :rolleyes:

Postcode: CT2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: ITV1MER
Channel Number: 66
Programme: Nancy McPhee: Warts and All
Date & Time of Airing: Sun 23/10 4:30pm
Problem: The actual program title says 'Nancy McPhee' instead of 'Nanny McPhee'
Although, there's the same program with the correct title, on ITV2 - Sat 22/10 @ 4:15pm
(It says 'Nancy..." again, in the description, aswell)

BTW, I noticed this because I have a WL for "making of * "/"behind the scenes" :D

[browellm]

Platform: Freeview, NG13
Channel: BBC2
Prog: Later with Jools Holland
Date: 21/10 and weekly

Problem: An existing SP is not picking up the new series. Also the OAD for the first episode was wrong.

[browellm]

Platform: Freeview, NG13
Channel: 5
Prog: Fifth Gear
Date: Tuesday repeat, 11:55pm

This is a repeat of the 8pm Monday show. Please alter show id's to reflect this.

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: CNNEU
Programme Name: The Daily Show: Global Edition
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): see below
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates
Previously reported: 23 Sep 2002, 14 Oct 2002, 04 Nov 2002, 24 Feb 2004, 05 Dec 2004 still not fixed

Seeing as how the More4 Daily Show error was fixed within days of it being reported, I thought I'd try this one more time! What the hell, might as well!


No. Channel Date Time TmsId
1 CNNEU Sat 22nd Oct 00:30 EP5302080149
2 CNNEU Sun 23rd Oct 22:30 EP5302080149

3 CNNEU Sat 29th Oct 00:30 EP5302080149
4 CNNEU Sun 30th Oct 12:30 EP5302080149
5 CNNEU Sun 30th Oct 23:30 EP5302080149

6 CNNEU Sat 5th Nov 01:30 EP5302080149
7 CNNEU Sat 5th Nov 21:30 EP5302080149
8 CNNEU Sun 6th Nov 12:30 EP5302080149
9 CNNEU Sun 6th Nov 23:30 EP5302080149


1/2 is the first episode
3/4/5 is a different episode.
6/7/8/9 is a different episode.

Every CNN broadcast is wrongly set to the same Episode EP5302080149.

The 28-day rule and bad data means you only get this programme once every 28 days, instead of once a week.

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Channel Callsign: BBC1 (all regions)
Programme Name: Points of View
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Sundays 17:15
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates

The guide data has Episode EP4075970001 every week.

The 28-day rule and bad data means you only get this programme once every 28 days, instead of once a week.

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Channel Callsign: BBCR4
Programme Name: Money Box Live
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Mondays 15:00
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates

The guide data has Episode EP5129675000 every week. (Unusual to have Episodic data for a radio series, and normally welcome, if all the episodes were set correctly.)

The 28-day rule and bad data means you only get this programme once every 28 days, instead of once a week.

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Channel Callsign: Five
Programme Name: The Wright Stuff
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Weekdays 09:25
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates

The guide data has all the episodes set the same for the 2nd week of data. Sometimes this is fixed in the nick of time, other times it is not and I've missed recordings.

This time:
The guide data has Episode EP3968630451 for all of next week's programmes (Mon 31st Oct-Fri 4th Nov).

The 28-day rule and bad data means you only get this programme on Monday, instead of every weekday.

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Channel Callsign: BBC2 (all regions)
Programme Name: Newsnight
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Weekdays 22:30 (in schedule, in reality deliberately 22:33 by BBC)
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates
Previously reported: 21 Jul 2005 still not fixed

A dog's breakfast of duplicates, this one:


No. Channel Date Time TmsId
1 BBC2 Mon 24th Oct 22:30 EP5790535011
2 BBC2 Tue 25th Oct 22:30 EP5790535011
3 BBC2 Wed 26th Oct 22:30 EP5790535005
4 BBC2 Thu 27th Oct 22:30 EP5790535005
5 BBC2 Fri 28th Oct 22:30 EP5790535005

6 BBC2 Mon 31st Oct 23:30 EP5790535007
7 BBC2 Tue 1st Nov 23:30 EP5790535007
8 BBC2 Wed 2nd Nov 23:30 EP5790535005
9 BBC2 Thu 3rd Nov 23:30 EP5790535005
10 BBC2 Fri 4th Nov 23:30 EP5790535007


They should all be different. Newsnight is never repeated; it's a news programme with agenda set by the day's events, and so doesn't even need to be Episodic!

The 28-day rule and bad data means you only get this programme a random smattering of times every 28 days, instead of every weekday.

[JeFurry]

Channel Callsign: SkyOne
Programme Name: Nip/Tuck
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Sunday 23rd Oct 2005, 22:00
Problem type: Wrong series ID

This episode (season 3 episode 2), and all repeats of it, are not included in the existing Season Pass set up on the first episode of this series. Future episodes appear OK.

[sjp]

Channel Callsign: More4
Programme Name: West Wing
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Friday 28th / Saturday 29th
Problem type: This Fridays West Wing overnight repeat in the wee small hours of Saturday morning is set to record as it is in the listaing as, what seems to be, the wrong episode.

The first showing Friday episode is correctly entitled Liftoff but the overnight episode seems to be completely spurious.

[mrtickle]

My listings for BBC4 run out at the end of this week. I expect they are due real soon now, but a heads-up in case...

Anyone with a SP for "Property Ladder" on C4 watch out - next week's episode (1st Nov) is in the "Property Ladder Revisited" SP. This is not an error but will catch you out if you don't have SPs for both.

[steveroe]

In a similar vein to mrtickle's "Property Ladder" (above), this week's "Grand Designs" (C4) is in the "Grand Designs Revisted" series.

My BBC4 listings also run out 6.00 a.m. on Saturday

[kitschcamp]

My BBC4 listings also run out 6.00 a.m. on Saturday

Same here, Sky, DE74

[browellm]

Channel: FIVE
Platform: Freeview, NG13
Dates: Today, Tomorrow and forseeable future:

Problem: Can someone have a look at the CH5 schedules for the morning kids "milkshake" progs. They are completely out of whack.
E.g. Fifi and the Flowertots is down as 7:45am on TIVO, it's not on until 8am, this is having a knock-on effect with the other programmes e.g. Noddy, Hi-5 etc.
Check Radio Times website for correct times.

[ozsat]

My listings for BBC4 run out at the end of this week. I expect they are due real soon now, but a heads-up in case...I am told these were late from the BBC and are in Wednesday morning's download.

[cbpm]

Call Sign: E4+1
Programme Name: All
Date/Time: 18 October 2005
Problem:
Freeview.
Since the line up change E4+1 which is on Channel 39, where Tivo think is still on Channel 32.
Not all the channels have been upgraded and the Digital Box has been updated with the correct channel line up.

[mjk]

Callsign: BBC2SCD
Programme Name: Rome
Date/Time: November 2nd, 2100
Problem: EPG thinks it starts at 2200

[ozsat]

Call Sign: E4+1
Programme Name: All
Date/Time: 18 October 2005
Problem:
Freeview.
Since the line up change E4+1 which is on Channel 39, where Tivo think is still on Channel 32.
Not all the channels have been upgraded and the Digital Box has been updated with the correct channel line up.On Freeview. E4+1 is on channel 32 - it you have it anywhere else then your set-top-box is wrong!

[ozsat]

Callsign: BBC2SCD
Programme Name: Rome
Date/Time: November 2nd, 2100
Problem: EPG thinks it starts at 22009pm is correct time!

Don't forget that from Sunday morning, the Sky EPG displays all times as being 1 hour later than British time until the clocks change on Sunday morning.

[mjk]

OK, ignore my previous post. It is just an artefact of the impending time change as we come off Summer Time. Clearly it has some scope for confusion of both software and hapless users!!

[Jon DRAPER]

No guide data for either True Movies or Matinee Movies (Digital Satellite). The sky epg gives full listings but Tivo shows nothing.

[ozsat]

Channel: FIVE
Platform: Freeview, NG13
Dates: Today, Tomorrow and forseeable future:

Problem: Can someone have a look at the CH5 schedules for the morning kids "milkshake" progs. They are completely out of whack.
E.g. Fifi and the Flowertots is down as 7:45am on TIVO, it's not on until 8am, this is having a knock-on effect with the other programmes e.g. Noddy, Hi-5 etc.
Check Radio Times website for correct times.I've looked at this and on my TiVo 'Fifi and the Flowetots is down for 8am - and matches the Five listings.

[andy80085]

Postcode: G4
Platform: NTL
Channel Name: Scottish
Channel Number: 103
Programme: Scotsport SPL
Date: 17/10/2005
Problem: Episode did not record as "previously recorded within 28 days", however this was the first and only showing of this episode.

Same probelm this week and next week.

[mrtickle]

I am told these were late from the BBC and are in Wednesday morning's download.

Got it now, thanks.

[erthis]

According to the sky magazine, Threshold is starting at 21:00 on 9th November, tivo lists something else in that slot

Channel - 106 - Sky one
Postcode NE24

[ozsat]

According to the sky magazine, Threshold is starting at 21:00 on 9th November, tivo lists something else in that slot

Channel - 106 - Sky one
Postcode NE24Sky listings say "Sgt Bilko" film

[LJ]

Sky
RH10
BBC4
Mind Games
Thu 3rd Nov 21:30 etc

All episodes have the same details and are being picked up by a FRO SP, but as the OAD says they were first shown in 2001.

[mrtickle]

According to the sky magazine, Threshold is starting at 21:00 on 9th November, tivo lists something else in that slot

Channel - 106 - Sky one
Postcode NE24

The Sky magazine is old fashioned paper media and is printed about 6 weeks in advance so shouldn't be relied upon for listings accuracy. There are often many changes between the magazine's schedule and the final broadcast, even if they are planned to be "pick of the day" programmes way in advance!

I bet that on the day the 9th November EPG listings are visible on the Sky EPG (2nd Nov?) the EPG will match TiVo for that timeslot. :)

[Andy Leitch]

Sky
DG1
Sky News 501
Saturday Live With Martin Stanford

This seems to be the old Technofile programme......but it's not listed. TiVo just has the generic news listing of News On The Hour.....a 7 hour programme!!!!!

EDIT::Searching by Title, the programme is listed but pressing the Live TV Guide doesn't list it.....it's just the standard News on the Hour programme. :confused:

[ericd121]

Postcode: MK2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: Radio 4
Channel Number: 704
Programme: Excess Baggage
Date & Time of Airing: Saturday 10am
Problem: Incorrect OADs
Not being recorded because of the 28 Day Rule, despite there being a new episode each week.
---------------------------
Postcode: MK2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: Radio 4
Channel Number: 704
Programme: Loose Ends
Date & Time of Airing: Saturday 6:15pm
Problem: Incorrect OADs
Not being recorded because of the 28 Day Rule, despite there being a new episode each week.

[steveroe]

Postcode: HU1
Platform: Sky
Channel Name: BBC2 England
Channel Number: 102
Programme: Rough Science
Date and Time of Airing: Wednesday 3/11 19:30
Problem: Existing season pass did not pickup new series, I have now setup a new season pass in addition.

[pmk]

Not that this post will make any difference but Countdown is still not working.

I am not going to write the details as the last 100 times over the past 12 months+ I have posted about it nothing has been done.

The only difference from previous reports is that it also appears a repeat is also on More4 now.

What the hell I might as well repeat myself...

C4 Countdown 15:30 (it is a different showing each weekday)
More4 Countdown ~13:30 (guessing this is a repeat of yesterdays show on C4 at 15:30)
C4 Countdown ~05:30 (if the same pattern as its always been this is a repeat of the show on C4, 36 hours previously)

Currently the shows are being caught by the 28 day rule. If the previous pattern follows the shows look okay up to the main weekend update where all the shows for the following week are broke and only the Monday show works.

[andybev]

My channel listings for BBC1 West Midlands cease early morning on Sat Nov 5th. I use it for local listings (have pegged it to 101 actually) so I'm a bit miffed. ALL the other BBC1 regions are fine!! I've resorted to using 101 BBC1 (listed as British Broadcasting Corp).

Any thoughts?

Cheers,

Andy

[ozsat]

My channel listings for BBC1 West Midlands cease early morning on Sat Nov 5th. I use it for local listings (have pegged it to 101 actually) so I'm a bit miffed. ALL the other BBC1 regions are fine!! I've resorted to using 101 BBC1 (listed as British Broadcasting Corp).

Any thoughts?

Cheers,

AndyI checked all the regions and only WM is missing - I have reported the problem.

[dvdfever]

Tonight's Watchdog on Sky channel 944 (BBC1 London) - for some reason I set it to this as a while back I used to record Eastenders afterwards and didn't want it to change channels from 101 to 101 and then chuck a mental, not finding the channel (stupid aspect of TiVo, that)

Anyway, it's the 28 days thing that catches it out, which is wrong. The only time they repeat it is overnight with the woman throwing her arms about in a bid to be politically correct.

Postcode: SK1
Platform: Sky
Channel Name: BBC1 London
Channel Number: 944
Programme: Watchdog
Date and Time of Airing: Tuesday 1/11 19:00

[bradleyem]

Post Code: E7
Platform: Sky
Channel : BBC4
Programme: The Avengers
Time: first ep 10th November, at 19:00

Bad guide data ahoy here. First, although the (generic) episode data is ok, the actors list suggest that this is the animated series from 99/00 about a group of American superheroes, not the spy series we all love. BBC trailers suggest it's the original 60s one!

Secondly, my Tivo wants to record both the showings (10/11 at 19:00 and 11/11 at 23:30). These are down as separate episodes, but looking at the times I'd say the second one was a repeat.

[ozsat]

Post Code: E7
Platform: Sky
Channel : BBC4
Programme: The Avengers
Time: first ep 10th November, at 19:00

Bad guide data ahoy here. First, although the (generic) episode data is ok, the actors list suggest that this is the animated series from 99/00 about a group of American superheroes, not the spy series we all love. BBC trailers suggest it's the original 60s one!

Secondly, my Tivo wants to record both the showings (10/11 at 19:00 and 11/11 at 23:30). These are down as separate episodes, but looking at the times I'd say the second one was a repeat.The cast has been reported and should be seen correctly in a couple of days.

Both screenings will be recorded at present until the BBC confirm episode details - as the current id is generic and TiVo can not tell the difference.

[lcsneil]

Postcode : W12
Platform Sky
Channel SKY TWO
Programme Nip/Tuck
Date & Time Fri 4th @ 22:00
Series 3 Ep 1 (the current series) starts again and according to sky.com & Digiguide the opening episode is 90 mins. Tivo has 60 mins. Which means you will miss the last 30 mins if that is true!

Neil

[ericd121]

Postcode: MK2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 2
Programme: Backlash
Date & Time of Airing: Saturdays 6:45pm-ish
Problem: Broken Season Pass
Episodes not being picked up each week.

[scoopuk]

Postcode: S2
Platform: Telewest Digital
Channel Name: Living TV
Channel Number: 110
Programme: Increase Your House Price by Ten Grand
Date & Time of Airing: Thurs Nov 10 8.00pm
Problem: Tivo listings show incorrect programme Charmed

Also a problem with Living TV+1 on channel 111

Living tv's website, Radio Times and digiguide show:

20:00 Increase Your House Price by Ten Grand

Property makeover show in which expert Andy Kane and his team of contractors must add ten thousand pounds to the value of a house with only one thousand pounds of the homeowner's money to transform it. The team work in a house in Surrey inhabited by a professional Posh Spice look-a-like.

[cwaring]

Postcode: WF1
Platform: Telewest Digital
Channel Name: BBC1NTH
Channel Number: 101
Programme: Casualty
Date & Time of Airing: Saturday November 12th, 08:25pm
Problem: Orphaned episode. Assuming I'm reading this correctly, this ep has a TmsId of SH891048 instead of SH225322 which every other ep has, includng those other channels (UKTV Gold and UKTV Drama) and thus will not be recorded by a current SP.

Postcode: WF1
Platform: Telewest Digital
Channel Name: BBC1NTH
Channel Number: 101
Programme: Bleak House
Date & Time of Airing: Thurs/Fri 30 min & Sunday 1 hour
Problem: The Sunday 1 hour slot is a repeat of the Thurs/Fri half-hour eps. However, the current SP is picking up every episode. While not a real problem it is, technically, an error :)


Edit: Fixed!

[=CM=]

BBC2 Fridays 19:00
Yup, that old bugbear the Money Programme issue. Last week's entry was on XBox but no hint of it being a Money Prog in the Tivo listings, however newspaper listings had it as Money Programme (Guardian, Metro). Previous week's entry has the words "Money" and "Programme" so a wishlist worked. Next Friday's (on premium phone scams) is back to normal, no mention of MP.

This should really come with a season pass option. I suspect the Beeb is trying to live down any fuddy duddy MP mentions but Tribune should really have better data.

[lcsneil]

[QUOTE=cwaring]Postcode: WF1
Platform: Telewest Digital
Channel Name: BBC1NTH
Channel Number: 101
Programme: Casualty
Date & Time of Airing: Saturday November 12th, 08:25pm
Problem: Orphaned episode. Assuming I'm reading this correctly, this ep has a TmsId of SH891048 instead of SH225322 which every other ep has, includng those other channels (UKTV Gold and UKTV Drama) and thus will not be recorded by a current SP.

Yep, same problem on Sky

Channel Name: BBC1LDN
Channel Number: 101
Programme: Casualty
Date & Time of Airing: Saturday November 12th, 08:25pm

Usual season pass has TmsID of SH225322 and Sat's episode is SH891048

Neil

[digital_S]

Postcode: CT2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC2SE
Channel Number: 56 / 2
Programme: A1 Grand Prix Racing
Date & Time of Airing: Sun 13 Nov - 4:00pm
Problem: Incorrect Program Title

The Sub-Title is correct though... "Grand Prix Masters" but as that should be the program title, then a sub-title of "South Africa" maybe!?

[steveroe]

Postcode: CT2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC2SE
Channel Number: 56 / 2
Programme: A1 Grand Prix Racing
Date & Time of Airing: Sun 13 Nov - 4:00pm
Problem: Incorrect Program Title

The Sub-Title is correct though... "Grand Prix Masters" but as that should be the program title, then a sub-title of "South Africa" maybe!?

The time is also wrong, BBC website shows this starting at 15:00 not 16:00

Motorsport: Sunday Grandstand
Sun 13 Nov, 3:00 pm - 5:20 pm 140mins

Inaugural race of the new Grand Prix Masters from the Kyalami Circuit in South Africa. Former Formula One world champions Nigel Mansell, Emerson Fittipaldi and Alain Prost are among the racers. [S]

Subtitles Stereo Widescreen

Website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/grandstand/

Note: The saturday qualifying is live on Motors TV and the race is live on Sunday (Tivo description is wrong). The BBC showing is "as live".

[digital_S]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_and_radio/grandstand/4404024.stm

According to that, the time is 4pm! But yes... according to the BBC TV Schedules, it's 3pm!

Digiguide says 4pm to 5:20pm http://www.mydigiguide.com/dgx/wbl.dll?h=1&a=2&dt=4376d660

So which is it? :confused:

[ozsat]

I've spoken to BBC Sport scheduling who are looking into why there are two sets of listings. They say that 4pm is correct - but are double-checking.

[andy80085]

Originally Posted by andy80085
Postcode: G4
Platform: NTL
Channel Name: Scottish
Channel Number: 103
Programme: Scotsport SPL
Date: 17/10/2005
Problem: Episode did not record as "previously recorded within 28 days", however this was the first and only showing of this episode.

Same problem last week, this week and next week.

I assume i'm going to have to start a wishlist if i want to record this.

[sanderton]

Won't help; 28 day rule applies to wishlists too.

[aerialplug]

National Geographic have for a while now been trailing a programme that was shown tonight about the original War of the Worlds radio broadcast and how it affected American listners, but TiVo always listed it as a repeat showing of "Seconds From Disaster", about the plane that crashed onto the M5, first shown a month or so ago.

I booked a manual recording tonight just to see what would appear - sure enough, National Geographic's trailers were right and TiVo was wrong.

This is increasingly starting to happen on these channels - Discovery, National Geographic and their subsidiary channels, where brand new keynote programmes are appearing on TiVo listed as repeats of old programmes, rather than what's actually being broadcast.

Are Tribiune not being informed of these changes any more? Is it a matter of the channels not bothering informing them or is it a matter of Tribune not bothering passing them onto TiVo?

I'd be interested to know more...

[JanB]

postcode NE21
channel BBC2 NE

There is no programme guide data for this week ending 18th November, returns at midnight on Saturday 19th.

Reported to Tivo helpdesk on Saturday morning who were to inform Tribune but not yet fixed.

JB

[andy80085]

Won't help; 28 day rule applies to wishlists too.

So scheduled manual recording is the only way?

[mrtickle]

So scheduled manual recording is the only way?

It's 1 of 2 ways. The guide data being corrected is the other way...

[cwaring]

"..and this weeks 'statement of the blatently obvious' award goes to.... :p:D
(Sorry! Only joking ;))

[tartan_haggis]

Postcode: PE16
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: ITV Three
Channel Number: 10
Programme: Framed
Date & Time of Airing: Saturdays 2315 and Sundays 0015
Problem: Should be a Season Pass but all episodes showing as individual films

I originally thought this was a film at 2315 on Saturday as it showed up on guide listings with a 3 star rating etc. but then noticed that there was another one immediately afterwards at 0015 on Sunday. I recorded both programmes, thinking that it might be a single film split for some reason - like the CSI double bill the other night on Channel 5.

If you now do a search by title on "Framed", two programmes appear - one at 2315 next Saturday and the other at 0015 next Sunday. If you look at "upcoming episodes" for each of them, there is only one occurrence. But this is obviously a series, and therefore all these episodes should be linked and bookable with a season pass.

[tartan_haggis]

Postcode: PE16
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: ITV2
Channel Number: 6
Programme: The Xtra Factor
Date & Time of Airing: Various
Problem: Episode Titling means 28 day rule is applied even though episodes are unique

Might have been raised elsewhere, but Xtra Factor has a number of editions, including Xtra Factor 24/7 and Xtra Factor Xcess All Areas which are weekly episodes but since Tribune has titled them as Programme "Xtra Factor" and Episode Title "24/7" or "Xcess All Areas" then the 28 day rule is applied and new episodes are not recorded unless forced manually.

[cwaring]

So, I'm sat in front of my TV waiting for the end of "Medusa's Child" on Sci-Fi and the supposed end-time of 23:35 is fast approaching. "Hmmm... shoulda finished by now. I think I'll go check DG". So I do that, and find that there's another FIFTEEEN MINTES of the show to go!!! Luckily, there's just time to change the end-padding to a hard 15 mins.

Tomorrow night's Part Two looks okay.

I know it's too late for anyone to do anything about but just wanted to vent, and hope that someone might see this and record the later showing (which also looks okay for timing) if they want to catch the end :)

[=CM=]

What the Papers Say, Sat (never the same time!), BBC2.

The presenter changes every week, Tivo almost never gets that right. Minor quibble; major one: last Sat's prog didn't record as a similar was caught by the 28-day rule. Shome mishtake since this nice prog is never repeated.

[lcsneil]

Location London W12
Channel BBC3
Platform Sky
Date Fri 25th Nov

Time 10:30pm onwards

Listings incorrect

Tivo

20:00 The House of Tiny Tearaways with Tanya Byron
21:00 Would You Buy a House with a Stranger?
22:00 EastEnders
22:30 Little Britain (2/6)
23:00 The Comic Side of 7 Days
23:30 Man Stroke Woman
00:00 Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps
01:00 The House of Tiny Tearaways with Tanya Byron
01:30 Would You Buy a House with a Stranger?
02:25 The Comic Side of 7 Days
02:55 Spendaholics
03:55 SIGN OFF


Digiguide
20:00 The House of Tiny Tearaways with Tanya Byron
21:00 Would You Buy a House with a Stranger?
22:00 EastEnders
22:30 Man Stroke Woman
23:00 The Comic Side of 7 Days
23:30 Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps
00:00 Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps
00:30 The House of Tiny Tearaways with Tanya Byron
01:00 Man Stroke Woman
01:30 The Comic Side of 7 Days
02:00 Would You Buy a House with a Stranger?
02:55 Spendaholics
03:55 SIGN OFF



bbc.co.uk
20:00 The House of Tiny Tearaways with Tanya Byron
21:00 Would You Buy a House with a Stranger?
22:00 EastEnders
22:30 Man Stroke Woman
23:00 The Comic Side of 7 Days
23:30 Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps
00:00 Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps
00:30 The House of Tiny Tearaways with Tanya Byron
01:00 Man Stroke Woman
01:30 The Comic Side of 7 Days
02:00 Would You Buy a House with a Stranger?
02:55 Spendaholics
03:55 SIGN OFF



Neil

[Zaichik]

A season pass for Watchdog (ch 22 BBC1WM) lists all the episodes but never records any of them. There is no explanation for the failure to record in Recording History.

[mrtickle]

A season pass for Watchdog (ch 22 BBC1WM) lists all the episodes but never records any of them. There is no explanation for the failure to record in Recording History.

I get the 28-day rule reason in my own recording history.

It's the same error as on loads of other series - every episode is set to the same TmsID, so you only get a programme once a month (because of the 28-day rule to filter duplicates) if you're lucky. I too missed What the Papers Say last Saturday, and I didn't realise I had until I read about it here :( . This error is like a virus spreading through Tribune's database, ruining more and more Season Passes as time goes on. It's been reported many times, yet hardly a week goes by without another Season Pass being infected. Even with my armoury of TiVoweb and checking tools, I still miss recordings! :mad:

This is/was affecting:
What the Papers Say
The Film Programme
Points of View
I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue
Money Box Live
Genius
The Wright Stuff
Airline

...plus more that I haven't spotted. Please be vigilant!

[AENG]

SG17
Freeview 12
UKTV History
Churchill's Bodyguard
Episode 1/13 shown 9.00 p.m. Monday 21 November

My disk seems to be filling up with multiple recordings of the first 2 episodes. Unless the episodes are labelled to allow the 28-day rule to work there's going to be something of a problem shortly.

[Andy Leitch]

DG1
Sky Digital
Sky News 501
Saturday Live with Martin Standford
26/11 10am

I set a manual repeating SP lasting 1 hour from 11am-12noon.
Checked TDL this morning, TiVo had cut this SP to 45 minutes starting from 11:15am.
I cancelled SP, re-set the manual repeating SP to 1 hour again, starting at 11am.
Checked TDL it said 11am start.
I've just played the recording and TiVo has again cut it short to 45 minutes and started recording at 11:15am. :confused:
Why is TiVo not carrying out the SP correctly??
Bad TiVo, bad bad TiVo. ;)

[ndunlavey]

SE3
Freeview 708
BBC7
Code Of The Woosters

Title is given throughout as Code Of The Woodsters

[ndunlavey]

SE3
Freeview 9
BBC4
Night Of Numbers

Tue Dec 9, 9.05 pm

This episode doesn't seem to be linked to the rest of season, so doesn't get included in a season pass.

[ericd121]

Postcode: MK2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: ITV1
Channel Number: 3
Programme: Premiership Football
Date & Time of Airing: Tuesday 6th December, 2005 7:30pm
Problem: Incorrect Programme Title

The match between
Premiership Football club Chelsea and
Premiership Football club Liverpool has been given the programme title
Premiership Football.

The correct title is, obviously, Champions League Live.

[DaveLane]

Callsign: DaveLane
Programme Name: Today on Radio4
Date/Time: 05/12/2005 06:00
Problem:

Can't record every day because the Season Pass info is such that my Tivo thinks the program's already been recorded "in the last 28 days". I am only getting 1 or 2 recordings per week because of this.

[Gavin]

Postcode: CM19
Platform: Ntl
Channel Name: Five
Programme: The Gadget Show
Date & Time of Airing: Mon 7pm or 7-15pm, repeated Wed @ 11pm
Problem: Generic data in the repeats guide data so Tivo records the repeat as well as the 1st showing thinking they are different shows.

This is a long running issue, just to say I've reported it in, it's just started to get on my nerves :)

[mrtickle]

What the Papers Say, Sat (never the same time!), BBC2.

The presenter changes every week, Tivo almost never gets that right. Minor quibble; major one: last Sat's prog didn't record as a similar was caught by the 28-day rule. Shome mishtake since this nice prog is never repeated.

Heads up: a few weeks have gone by so it's time to manually add entries to the To Do list again, because most have still not been fixed.

What the Papers Say (due to fail with a false duplicate this Saturday)
The Film Programme (ditto)
I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue (seems to be spared at the moment)
Money Box Live (due to fail for the next two weeks)
The Wright Stuff (all next week's programmes are duplicates, again)

Also an error for the Sky At Night:

No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC4 Tue 6th Dec 20:35 EP3247925020 True Sun 4th Dec 2005 Yes "Celestial Zoo"
2 BBC4 Wed 7th Dec 01:40 EP3247925020 True Sun 4th Dec 2005 Yes "Celestial Zoo"
3 BBC2 Sat 10th Dec 13:00 EP3247925020 True Sun 4th Dec 2005 Yes "Celestial Zoo"


Entry 2 is in TiVo's guide data as being 90 minutes long instead of 30 minutes, and the following programme "Je T'aime Europe" 02:10-03:00 is missing completely.

[ndunlavey]

SE3
Freeview
BBC4 (9)
Sun 18/12 10.40, Mon 19/12 10:30, Tue 20/12 10:30
The Green Man

From what I remember of when this was first shown in 1991, I think this is a three-part mini-series.

TiVo has none of the episodes linked together as a season. The title appears twice in the alphabetic listigs, the first occurence having just the Sun 18/12 episode, and the second occurrence having the other two (but not even those show as a "season").

[ndunlavey]

SE3
Freeview
BBC4 (9)
Sun 18/12 10.40, Mon 19/12 10:30, Tue 20/12 10:30
The Green Man
Nearly there - only one title in the EPG now, to which all episodes are linked, but still no season pass option.

[Andy Leitch]

DG2
Sky
BBC3 115
Two Pints Of Lager And A Packet Of Crisps
Tue 20/12 10:30pm

Censorship

The Proper episode title is Fags, Shags And Kebabs but TiVo has censored it to Fags, S... And Kebabs.

Two Pints Of Lager And A Packet Of Crisps
Tue 20/12 11:00pm

Censorship

The Proper episode title is Spunk but Tivo has censored it to S....



These programmes are shown after the 9pm watershed and therefore are for an adult audience and should not be censored.

The censorship seems to be from the UK side rather than US.

Fags, Shags and Spunk have different meanings in the US to the UK usage.



The irony is Tribune has listed these programmes in the past uncensored....why the change??

The proper listings from a proper listings provider....




SITCOM: Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps
Channel: BBC 3 115
Date: Tuesday 20th December 2005
Time: 22:30 to 23:00 (starting this evening)
Duration: 30 minutes.
Fags, Shags and Kebabs. Series 1, episode 1.

SITCOM: Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps
Channel: BBC 3 115
Date: Tuesday 20th December 2005
Time: 23:00 to 23:30 (starting this evening)
Duration: 30 minutes.
Spunk. Series 1, episode 2.

Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide

[cwaring]

If you have a FROSP for "CSI: Miami" on five, it won't have scheduled tonight's episode as the OAD is wrong. Only just noticed this yesterday.

Yes, I know I don't really need a "FRO" SP for this, but it saves it picking up repeats whenever they're shown without me touching the SP :)

[tivodavo]

EXTRAs BBC 2 1120pm

Tivo data has this starting on Sunday 18th Dec and it actually started on 19th. All episodes are now one out and I will miss the last one as it is not listed.

useless.

[KevinHopkins]

tivodavo said:
EXTRAs BBC 2 1120pm

Tivo data has this starting on Sunday 18th Dec and it actually started on 19th. All episodes are now one out and I will miss the last one as it is not listed.

useless.

Tivo was correct, though due to the late running snooker on Sunday evening (18th) Extras was about an hour late. Extras is running from Sunday to Friday (6 episodes) according to the BBC web site though the BBC have changed round the order they are being shown - Ross Kemp was on Sunday and Ben Stiller was on Monday. Ben Stiller's was first in the original UK run though I believe the US ordering was different - maybe this way round?

Kevin.

[britcub]

Channel: Paramount Comedy 1
Programme: Just for Laughs
Daily, multiple times!

This programme is incorrectly listed by TiVo as Just For Laughs, Just For Paramount, which is a stand up comedy show.

Just For Laughs is a completely different show (hidden camera).

[ndunlavey]

SE3
Freeview
BBC7 (708)
Don Quixote

Sun 1/1. 1.00 pm, 10.00 pm
Mon 2/1, 5.00 am
Sun 8/1, 1.00 pm, 10.00 pm
Mon 9/1, 5.00 am
and possible others following

Problem: No season pass option

My guess is that is a series, but I don't know how many episodes.

[cwaring]

My pre-existing SP for "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA" is not picking up the new season which, for some inexplicable reason, has been given a completely new TmsId!

Tuesdays at 9pm from Jan 10th

Old: SH697658
New: SH618571

[warrenrb]

BT4
NTL Digital
BBC2 Northern Ireland (102)

I tried to record Match of the Day on BBC2 NI, 29/12 at 9:30am, but the programme didn't show up. Luckily, I can get a 'generic' BBC2 on channel 951, so I turned that on, and got the show I wanted.

Turns out BBC2 NI has BBC24 listings now, and until 2:30pm tomorrow (thurs). More of a heads up to anyone than something that can get fixed, but might be useful for Tivo/Tribune to investigate how this happened and prevent in future.

Cheers,
Warren.

[ndunlavey]

SE3
Freeview
BBC2LDN (33)
Balderdash and Pifle [sic]
Mon 2/1 9.00pm

Problem: Title should be "Balderdash and Piffle"

[AENG]

SE3
Freeview
BBC2LDN (33)
Balderdash and Pifle [sic]
Mon 2/1 9.00pm

Problem: Title should be "Balderdash and Piffle"


That's not so bad. first off, on my machine, it was something like "Pi2le! :rolleyes:

[grannysmith]

Having moved from Sky to Freeview, the wrong BBC1 regional service is listed. Guided setup shows BBC1 South instead of BBC1 East. ITV is correct showing ITV Central and ITV Anglia. Milton keynes is best served by Sandy Heath which broadcasts BBC1 East.

The Digital TV Group website shows:

Oxford
BBC Region: South (Oxford)
ITV Region: Central
Muxes received: 1
Distance: 36 kilometres

Sandy Heath
BBC Region: East
ITV Region: Anglia
Muxes received: ALL
Distance: 40 kilometres

Reported to Tivo Customer Services by phone yesterday, phoned again today, was told to wait 7-10 days.

[ozsat]

Having moved from Sky to Freeview, the wrong BBC1 regional service is listed. Guided setup shows BBC1 South instead of BBC1 East. ITV is correct showing ITV Central and ITV Anglia. Milton keynes is best served by Sandy Heath which broadcasts BBC1 East.

The Digital TV Group website shows:

Oxford
BBC Region: South (Oxford)
ITV Region: Central
Muxes received: 1
Distance: 36 kilometres

Sandy Heath
BBC Region: East
ITV Region: Anglia
Muxes received: ALL
Distance: 40 kilometres

Reported to Tivo Customer Services by phone yesterday, phoned again today, was told to wait 7-10 days.It takes 48 hours to get to you once the amendment is in the system.

It was done today so should be in Saturday's download.

[lcsneil]

Lost
Channel 4
Wed 11/1/06

22:00 (Exodus 2/3)
23:05 (Exodus 3/3)

My Series pass is not picking up the penultimate episode of this 25 part series!!

OAD of 2/3 is down as Mon 26th Sep 2005

Neil

[britcub]

Channel 5
Daily, 7.15pm
World's Strongest Man

Generic data means some episodes not being picked up by season pass

[steveroe]

Sky
BBC2 102
Who do you think you are?
Wed 11/1 21:00
Existing season pass does not pickup new series

E4 163
Smallville
Mon 9/1 21:00
Incorrect OAD (16/10/2001!) so FRO season pass does not record new series

BBC3 116
Tittybangbang
Various times
Generic data leads to each episode being recorded. Radio Times knows each is the same, why doesn't Tribune?

[BaggieBoy]

My pre-existing SP for "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA" is not picking up the new season which, for some inexplicable reason, has been given a completely new TmsId!

Tuesdays at 9pm from Jan 10th

Old: SH697658
New: SH618571

So I set up a new SP and deleted the old one, now I find it isn't finding any episodes. Looks like they changed back to the original ID. So yet another SP created. Grrrrrrr.

[=CM=]

BBC1 weekend kids progs move to BBC2 from this weekend. Those SPs don't work anymore! Warning to any others whose offspring can put up quite a loud whinging wail if Scooby bloody Doo is not recorded :p

[Richws]

Hi,
New TIVO user, just setup in past 3 weeks & away over holiday. ITV3 is on Sky Ireland EPG but not on equivilent TIVO Programme guide. Is this likely to change as prevents selection for recording?

Hapy New Year All

[tim123]

Postcode: RH12
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme: judge John Deed
Date & Time of Airing: Friday 13th
Problem: OAD seems to be set to last year

[ericd121]

Postcode: MK2
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: BBCNews24
Channel Number: 80
Programme: Click Online
Date & Time of Airing: Weekends 8:30 pm, 12:30 am & 4:30 am
Problem: Incorrect Title & Generic Data (possibly)

Click Online has changed its name;
Tivo has changed it to Online
the BBC has changed it to Click.

As reported previously, each episode is broadcast 4 or 5 times each weekend, and Tivo will schedule every one that it can, due to Generic Data.

[juphill]

Postcode: SG1
Platform: NTL
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 144
Programme: ER
Date & Time of airing: Thursday 9:00pm, e.g. 12/1 and 19/1
Problem: FROSP not picking up new series

[pmk]

BBC News 24 (and BBC One when simucasting)

"Click Online" has changed its name to "Click" I think (according to the BBC web site and TV listing). At the moment in my guide data it is called "Online".

As I use a title wish list it is obviously failing. I do not know if people using SPs have been automatically updated.

HTH

[cwaring]

I do not know if people using SPs have been automatically updated.
Just so you know, we have :)

[ndunlavey]

SE3
Freeview
BBC4 (9)
I, Samurai

Mon 9/1, 9.00 pm
Tue 10/1, 1.00 am
Sat 14/1, 12.25 am

Problem: A season pass picks up all the above - I suspect (but don't know) that the 10/1 and 14/1 instances are repeats.

[sjp]

BBC1 - Life On Mars - Mondays at 9pm - 1st 2 episodes on differing Season Passes (as of the 2nd ep. arriving Sat or Sun AM downloads)

edited to add... the 2nd episode's SP is also picking up the repeat broadcast a few days later.

[ozsat]

Postcode: SG1
Platform: NTL
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 144
Programme: ER
Date & Time of airing: Thursday 9:00pm, e.g. 12/1 and 19/1
Problem: FROSP not picking up new seriesIf these have already been shown in the UK on any channel - then that would be correct.

I don't know if they have.

[browellm]

If these have already been shown in the UK on any channel - then that would be correct.

I don't know if they have.

Don't think they have. If we could get this fixed, that would be great - there are currently 35 ER episodes available on C4, E4, E4+1 and MORE4, making it a pain to sort out manually.

[cwaring]

No they haven't. This is the Premier of Season... erm... 12 I think.

[cwaring]

BBC1 - Life On Mars - Mondays at 9pm - 1st 2 episodes on differing Season Passes (as of the 2nd ep. arriving Sat or Sun AM downloads)

edited to add... the 2nd episode's SP is also picking up the repeat broadcast a few days later.
I was just going to report this. However, I will simply clarify :)

LIFE ON MARS (SH895973) - BBC1NTH(1) - Orignal SP from yesterday's show
LIFE ON MARS (SH896792) - BBC1NTH(2) - Next week's ep.

[ozsat]

Life on Mars should have been fixed for Wednesday's download.

[gadgetgaz]

What happened to the "Life On Mars" repeat of the 1st episode? Guide data said BBC1 00:25 Fri 13th TiVo recorded the showing correctly but something about Michael Heseltine was actually aired. That was my last chance to get the 1st episode. Mates at work said it was great and a real blast from the past.

[Furball]

Your joking , thats what mine was due to pick up !!!

[AMc]

Gosh darn it - I'd been relying on that late night repeat but the Beeb deny it existed!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/listings/index.shtml?service_id=4223&day=yesterday

[ozsat]

What happened to the "Life On Mars" repeat of the 1st episode? Guide data said BBC1 00:25 Fri 13th TiVo recorded the showing correctly but something about Michael Heseltine was actually aired. That was my last chance to get the 1st episode. Mates at work said it was great and a real blast from the past.Very late on 11th - the following was sent out by BBC.

00.25: MICHAEL HESELTINE: THE UNCOMMON GARDENER: Unbilled (replacing the billed edition of LIFE ON MARS which has been dropped.)

and for the following week

00.25: LIGHT FANTASTIC (Episode 3 of 4): An hour earlier than billed (replacing the billed edition of LIFE ON MARS which has been dropped).

[Milhouse]

Dragons Den
BBC2 (Sky 102)
Thursday @ 9.50pm

For the 12th and 19th Jan, TiVo is has this as a 10 minute programme when it should be 1 hour.

Oddly enough the Radio Times web site confirms this as a 10 minute showing but after viewing the 10 minute episode form 12th Jan it's pretty obvious it was meant to be a 1 hour showing.

[KevinHopkins]

I also viewed the Dragons Den episode on 12th and it really is meant to be just 10 minutes long. It's subtitled "Best Of" on screen and there are credits at the front and end of the 10 minute program.

In effect it is just one entepeneur's bid from series 1.

Kevin.

P.S. Did you view the whole program of were you a victim of the normal BBC2 evening late running and missed the end?

[Milhouse]

Thanks Kevin - I fell victim to the BBC2 late running, so missed the end too and having skipped the titles thought it was a normal full-length programme!

I reckon it was almost 5 minutes into the 10 minutes before the guy with the baby rocker even entered the Den!!

[Paul555]

Channel - ITV1/ITV2
Platform - Sky
Postcode - GL51
Programme: Surface
Problem - Wrong episode description/Season pass is not picking up properly

It appears that some episodes have been given the episode description for the first episode incorrectly. I cannot tell which are repeats and which are new episodes. I'm lost. Also on Saturday 21 Jan ITV1 shows a repeat and then ITV2 shows the next episode but these overlap by 5 mins so conflict. Can someone with TiVOWeb etc please check this.

[Andy Leitch]

Postcode: DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: BBC1

Channel Number: 101

Programme Name: Watchdog

Time/Date Of Airing: Tues 7pm

Problem Encountered: Broken SP

Won't be recorded due to the 28 day rule....but it's a weekly programme!!



Channel Name: BBCR4FM

Channel Number: 854

Programme Name: You And Yours

Time/Date Of Airing: Weekdays 12 noon

Problem Encountered: Broken SP

Won't be recorded due to the 28 day rule.....but it's a daily weekday programme!!!

[ndunlavey]

Stephen Poliakoff Season

The two Stephen Poliakoff dramas so far in the listings for BBC4's season of his work don't have him named as director, or indeed anywhere in the blurb, so neither a Director nor Keyword wishlist for "Poliakoff" picks them up.

The full season as remains to be aired is:

SHE'S BEEN AWAY (1989) Sunday 22 January 10pm-11.45pm

PERFECT STRANGERS (2001)
Part 1: Sunday 29 January 10pm-11.30pm
Part 2: Sunday 5 February 10pm-11pm TBC
Part 3: Sunday 5 February 11pm-12.30am TBC

CENTURY (1993) Sunday 12 February 10pm-11.55pm TBC

SHOOTING THE PAST (1999) Sunday 19 February 9pm-11.50pm TBC

CLOSE MY EYES (1991) Sunday 26 February 10.45pm-12.25am TBC

STRONGER THAN THE SUN Sunday 5 March TBC

BLOODY KIDS (1980) Sunday 12 March TBC

Postcode: SE3
Platform: Freeview
Channel: BBC4 (9)

[cwaring]

I was just amusing (and amazing ;)) myself by checking my Tivo over the internet when I found the following problem:

Callsign: LIVING
Programme Name: Charmed
Date/Time: Thurs Jan 26, 9pm
Problem: FROSP won't pick it up as OAD is wrong (Thu 21st Oct 1999)
Also, the cast list is out of date but that's a problem with other shows too :)

[sjp]

ditto the above Charmed report... The episode to be broadcast on Feb 9th also seems to be affected.

[aleks]

Postcode: W5
Platform: Sky
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 33
Programme: Smile
Date & Time of airing: Sunday 22 January
Problem: Not recorded as already recorded last week. As this is a new live programme every Sunday I imagine that the programme number has not been incremented.

[digital_S]

Wasn't sure where to post this... Feel free to move, and/or copy to the best place, if it needs to be! (It's on tonight btw!)

Just to let anyone who records Celebrity Big Brother know (if they don't already), that the double eviction show is on as it has been, from 9pm to 10pm - but then there's another half hour, from 11:05pm to 11:35pm! (so add that 2nd show to your TiVo!)

[Listing from Channel4.com]

21:00 Celebrity Big Brother
22:00 Desperate Housewives
23:05 Celebrity Big Brother
23:35 Rock School

[ericd121]

More Celebrity Big Brother alterations.

Tonight's Channel 4 listings as now as follows:-

20:00 Everybody Loves Raymond
20:30 Celebrity Big Brother: The Live Final
21:30 My Name Is Earl
22:00 Celebrity Big Brother: The Live Final
23:05 The Friday Night Project

Quite why Channel 4 didn't issue this schedule last week is anybody's guess. :rolleyes:

[Furball]

Well spotted , and many thanks guys , would have missed both days programs if it wasnt for the forum :up:

Cheers

Fur

[=CM=]

BBC2 Fridays 1900 "Money Programme" - 2 episodes with SP, next is standalone.

20 Jan on Google: SP works, title is MP
27 Jan on female millionaires: SP works, title is MP
3 Feb on computer dating: title is "the Love Bloom", no SP, wishlists won't work.

Doing so well with the first two!

[etrigan]

Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Horizon

Problem: The season pass I have for Horizon on BBC2 has been renamed "Moscow Theatre Siege". This is probably the usual problem of calling the programme by name of the episode - v. common for Horizon on the secondary channels, but wrong.

[Gavin]

Postcode: CM19
Platform: Ntl
Channel Name: Boomerang
Programme: Dangermouse
Date & Time of airing: Frequently (filler material I guess) 3 or 4 a day

OAD is listed as various dates in 2002, and it's blatently wrong..

[Major dude]

Don't think they have. If we could get this fixed, that would be great - there are currently 35 ER episodes available on C4, E4, E4+1 and MORE4, making it a pain to sort out manually.

I agree also the cast listing is way out of date as well which is also irritating :mad:

Is there anyway of properly identifying the new series so it is properly sorted by when 'first showing only' is requested?

[browellm]

I agree also the cast listing is way out of date as well which is also irritating :mad:

Is there anyway of properly identifying the new series so it is properly sorted by when 'first showing only' is requested?

Indeed. The inability to fix the cast list is simply downright laziness on the part of the EPG writers. This week's new episode is showing as a 2002 launch date, making a FROSP even more useless.

The fact that:

1) It's on a major terrestrial channel
2) It's a US series (for which the epg is historically richer and more accurate)
3) Popular programme (subjective opinion, of course)

all means some effort should be given to having a proper tidy up.

[mesaka]

Just a "me too" comment on the subject of ER - its getting harder to keep SWMBO happy on this subject...she even threantened to start using the video recorder.... :eek:

[AENG]

I've given up and just set a repeating manual recording (rather like I had to ensure getting [I]The Money Programme).

[AENG]

SG17
Watchdog
BBC1 Tuesdays 7:00 p.m.

SP not picking up due to 28-day rule. I think this has been posted previously but has obviously not yet been fixed. Next week's episode will go the same way, too, it seems.

[frogster]

"Wake up to money" on BBCRadio5 via Sky Digital is incorrectly listed as being one weekly episode broadcast Monday and repeated every day from Tuesday to Friday.

It is, of course, a new programme daily.

[manolan]

Stephen Poliakoff Season

... snip ...
PERFECT STRANGERS (2001)
Part 1: Sunday 29 January 10pm-11.30pm
Part 2: Sunday 5 February 10pm-11pm TBC
Part 3: Sunday 5 February 11pm-12.30am TBC

... snip ...
Platform: Freeview
Channel: BBC4 (9)

And the second two episodes have a different series id from the first.

[Gavin]

Postcode: CM19
Platform: Ntl
Channel Name: Five
Programme: The Gadget Show
Date & Time of Airing: Mon 7pm or 7-15pm, repeated Wed @ 11pm
Problem: Generic data in the repeats guide data so Tivo records the repeat as well as the 1st showing thinking they are different shows.

This is a long running issue, just to say I've reported it in, it's just started to get on my nerves :)

New Series Same issues

Mondays 7:15 repeats Sat 12:20

Generic guide data means repeats are recorded and bad OAD's are causing problems with season pass's

I'll phone it in later but this is a heads up for people. It's too late to catch the repeat of the 1st of the new series tommorow, but might get it resolved for the rest of the series...

EDIT: Called it in but not sure it will get fixed, it wasn't last time

[nathan]

Callsign: ITV1
Postcode: HA8
Source: Freeview
Programme Name: Agatha Christie's Marple
Date/Time: Sun Feb 5th

Neither of the previous season passes for this programme have picked up the new series.

[cwaring]

Looks like they changed the title. To be fair, that's not Tribune's fault :)

[steveroe]

C4
Sun Feb 12th
Scrappy Races

Problem: Orphaned Season Pass, existing pass does not pickup this episode.

[nathan]

Looks like they changed the title. To be fair, that's not Tribune's fault :)

I've three season passes now, one for Marple and two for Agatha Christie's Marple, one old and one I had to set up yesterday.

The programme is still titled Agatha Christie's Marple.

[Gavin]

Postcode: CM19
Platform: Ntl
Channel Name: E4 ( and I guess E4+1)
Programme: Brat Camp Unseen
Date & Time of Airing: Wed 10Pm, (and 11pm on e4)
Problem: Not season passable. it's down as specials then in reality it's a tag on to the series

[JonnyJackov]

Postcode: L4
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Living & Living +1
Channel Number: 112 & 113
Programme: Americas Next Top Model

Episode descriptions do not match episodes shown, they are either one episode in front or one episode behind, making manual recordings of this prog a nightmate.

Postcode: L4
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: UK Gold
Channel Number: 109
Programme: Wogan Now & Then

No Programme info so tivo is recording EVERY episode - and there are lots of repeats.

[netnode]

Postcode: AL2
Platform: NTL Digital Cable
Channel Name: SKY ONE
Channel Number: 140
Programme: Battlestar Galactica
Date & Time of Airing: Tuesdays 9-10pm
Problem: Broken Season Pass
New Season episodes are not being recorded as the OAD is set back in January
Is was ok till this weeks episode

Lucky there is still a couple of repeats to catch :)

[cwaring]

Callsign: LIVING
Programme Name: Charmed,
Date/Time: Thurs 09/02/06 8pm Ep title: "Kill Billie Vol 1"
Problem: FROSP won't get this weeks episode. OAD is wrong: Thu 1st Nov 2001.
With so many showings of past seasons (171 as of this message) a working FROSP is essential.

The good news is that it looks like only this week's ep is affected :)

[pmk]

Tonights (Friday 10 Feb 06) Masterchef Goes Large on BBC2 is not recording due to 28 day rule. It is on at 17:30 instead of 18:30 due to Olympics coverage. This time change must have confused Tribune.

[rondun]

QI
BBC4
Sky
Thur 09/02/06 11:30pm

Was shown at 11pm

[aerialcaro]

Postcode: WC1
Platform: Telewest Digital Cable
Channel Name: SCIEU
Channel Number: 135
Programme: V
Date and Time of Airing: Fri 10/2 8:00 pm
Problem: Episode title "Liberation Day" and description refers to episode 1 of V: The Series from 1984 but SciFi is showing the original miniseries from 1983. The next 2 episodes in the guide (17th and 24th Feb) are listed as episodes 10 and 3 from the 1984 series so they're also likely to be incorrect.

[Crispin]

Postcode: CB4
Platform: NTL digital
Channel Name: Sky Two
Programme: 24
Date and Time of Airing: All showings, e.g. Wed 15th Feb 21:00
Problem: None of the episodes on SkyTwo seem to have the details as the ones from SkyOne, they don't seem to have correct OADs, so they are always in the Todo list.

[pmk]

Tonights (Friday 10 Feb 06) Masterchef Goes Large on BBC2 is not recording due to 28 day rule. It is on at 17:30 instead of 18:30 due to Olympics coverage. This time change must have confused Tribune.
Just a quick follow up on this (I have manually recorded these episodes now so I can't check if they have been fixed). The last time I looked Masterchef this Friday appears to have the same problem and same for upcoming weeks so be careful. Remember is on at odd times earlier or later than the usual 18:30 due to the Olympics etc.

[JudyB]

Just a quick follow up on this (I have manually recorded these episodes now so I can't check if they have been fixed). The last time I looked Masterchef this Friday appears to have the same problem and same for upcoming weeks so be careful. Remember is on at odd times earlier or later than the usual 18:30 due to the Olympics etc.

This coming Friday (17th Feb) is OK, but it looks like next week's is not:

BBC2
Friday 24th February 2006 (4PM)
Masterchef Goes Large

Will not be recorded due to the 28 day rule.

[=CM=]

Tivo lists ep 7 next Monday 2100 BBC1 but also a Tues 0140 episode with generic data.

Could this be the deferred repeat of ep 1 which was zapped by a Heseltine gardening programme (be still my beating heart)? Needs prog data to know.

[cwaring]

Yes, I do believe it is, albeit with the flippy-flappy-person in-vision :)

[lcsneil]

Looks like it - Digiguide specific data says the same on the 0140 next Tue as it did on Ep 1 from 9/1/06.

As Cwaring says it does have in vision signing though.

Neil

[staffie2001uk]

Postcode: PR2
Platform: Freeview
Channel: E4 / E4+1
Programme: IT Crowd
Date & Time of Airing: All
Problem: Allways get My Name is Earl recorded (listed as IT Crowd in Now Showing)

Using a wishlist to record IT Crowd, when I come to watch it, it has recorded My Name Is Earl. Every time. Starting to get annoying now. C4 showings clash with other progs.

[ndunlavey]

Postcode: SE3
Platform: Freeview
Channel: BBC1LDN (26)
Programme: Gideon's Daughter
Airing: Sun 26/2 9:00pm
Problem: Not picked up by a Director wishlist for Stephen Poliakoff.

[DuncanCorps]

Postcode: SG3 6EA
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Number: 109 (and 110)
Channel Name: UKTV Gold (and UKTV Gold (Plus 1 Hour))
Callsign: UKGLD (and UKGLD1)
Programme Name: Doctor Who/ Doctor Who Omnibus
Time/Date Of Airing: 25 February 06:00 (and 07:00), 26 February 06:00 (and 07:00)
Problem Encountered:

These programmes are incorrectly using the title and ID for Doctor Who (Series Server ID: 82042), but they are compilations of (older) episodes and should be using the title and ID for Doctor Who Omnibus (Series Server ID: 99576). Using the wrong details breaks season passes, invalidates thumbs ratings and complicates searches.

Showings before and after these are set up correctly, but I expect we'll see this problem again soon. As a general rule, showings on UKTV Gold (or UKTV Gold (Plus 1 Hour)) on weekend mornings are Doctor Who Omnibus, and should not be mixed up with individual episodes of Doctor Who. And yes, I know the broken information is coming from UKTV themselves- but surely TiVo/ Tribune can fix it?

I hope the "Series Server ID"s are useful.

[Gavin]

Postcode: CM19
Platform: Ntl
Channel Name: C4 / E4 / E4+1 / More4/ More4 +1
Programme: ER
Date & Time of Airing: Various, 1St showing is usually Thurs @9pm (E4) 10PM (E4+1) Repeats at various times on different of the 4 variants, with the 1st analog terrestrial showing on C4 the following Monday @10pm

Also Older ER is shown a heck of a lot and this makes it hard to spot new ones.


ProblemS: Cast list is almost always wrong, It either is generic or semi right but adds in a few people who are no longer in the show or misses out reoccuring actors. EG Current Series lists Alex Kingston (Corday) as a regular name but she left in 2004. Older series are better but the actors are still frequently wrong (or major guest starts missed) , but I doubt that would be fixed now they've "vintage" episodes

OAD is almost always wrong, next "real" new one (The Human Shield) is right (amazingly or someone has called it in., the following (Two Ships) has a OAD of 19th Sep 1994 (which is actually the OAD of the Pilot ER in the USA!) The following which should be I Do has an OAD of Sun 12th Feb 2006, well we're passed that date and it's not shown in the UK yet.

Typically the OAD is the US OAD NOT the UK OAD which is next to useless for us in the UK.

ER has been a continual pain, we've missed more than we've seen and to be honest it's just not good enough, it amazes me they can get it so different, theres just no consistency to how wrong they get it, if they were all US OAD's that would be fine but there not there a mismash.

This is a long running issue, just to say I've reported it in. Also Ozsat asked me to, it's been mentioned before repeatedly on this thread.

As I've said elsewhere *PLEASE* call tivo and register these errors if they don't get called in they won't get fixed, and if people who posted on here did call them in it would get reported back to Tivo who may do something, Just reporting in here does not count as it's not the official route..

I'll now get off my soapbox...

[UncUgly]

Postcode: SM7
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: CBBC (616)
Programme: Blue Peter
Date & Time of Airing: Everyday at 5:00pm
Problem: Every program has the same generic description, and the OAD is wrong, resulting in none of them being recorded as the all get caught by the 28 day rule

:(

the kids are not happy :(

uu

[ozsat]

Postcode: SM7
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: CBBC (616)
Programme: Blue Peter
Date & Time of Airing: Everyday at 5:00pm
Problem: Every program has the same generic description, and the OAD is wrong, resulting in none of them being recorded as the all get caught by the 28 day rule

:(

the kids are not happy :(

uuThe problem here is that CBBC produce the same info for all Blue Peter episodes on their channel. Only BBC1 screenings get different information from BBC scheduling.

[tartan_haggis]

Postcode: PE16
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC2
Programme: The Apprentice
Date & Time of Airing: Wednesday 2100

I had this set up on Season Pass for the last series (ID 22266) but it did not pick up on the new episodes that start tonight. Had to create a new Season Pass (ID 108761) for the new series.

Thought Tribune would have used the same season pass ID for this?

[=CM=]

Programme: The Apprentice
Date & Time of Airing: Wednesday 2100

I had this set up on Season Pass for the last series (ID 22266) but it did not pick up on the new episodes that start tonight. Had to create a new Season Pass (ID 108761) for the new series.

I can't speak season pass IDs but my SP from the first series picked up this second series, even before the pre-pub began to roll. Sunday's extra on Tim was missed but that's not a surprise (from TiVo POV). Did you use an SP for the BBC3 airings by any chance?

[cyril]

I can't speak season pass IDs but my SP from the first series picked up this second series, even before the pre-pub began to roll. Sunday's extra on Tim was missed but that's not a surprise (from TiVo POV). Did you use an SP for the BBC3 airings by any chance?
My TiVo picked up the Tim episode and the new season. :)

Not sure if it was because of a wishlist. Can check later.

[UncUgly]

The problem here is that CBBC produce the same info for all Blue Peter episodes on their channel. Only BBC1 screenings get different information from BBC scheduling.

Would it not be possible to simply set the OAD as the broadcast date, as they are only shown once ?

uu

[cwaring]

Further to Gavin's previous post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3792136&&#post3792136) about "ER", I have to report that my current Season Pass for the show on E4 - TMSID SH115131 - is now broken and is not showing any upcoming episodes. It looks like the show has now been given a new TMSID of SH899732.

I will, of course, be reporting this tomorrow (0870 calls are cheaper on a weekend ;))

[Mark Bennett]

Further to Gavin's previous

I will, of course, be reporting this tomorrow (0870 calls are cheaper on a weekend ;))

http://www.saynoto0870.com/search.php :up:

[Gavin]

Further to Gavin's previous post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3792136&&#post3792136) about "ER", I have to report that my current Season Pass for the show on E4 - TMSID SH115131 - is now broken and is not showing any upcoming episodes. It looks like the show has now been given a new TMSID of SH899732.

I will, of course, be reporting this tomorrow (0870 calls are cheaper on a weekend ;))


Erm Sorry this seems to be my fault, they've Semi fixed the OAD problem and the wrong actors in the list problems, but they've wrecked the season pass's in the process.. :)

Should the OAD be set to the US OAD or the UK OAD? At the moment they are using the US OAD which menas FRO won't catch any episodes

[cwaring]

Should the OAD be set to the US OAD or the UK OAD? At the moment they are using the US OAD which menas FRO won't catch any episodes
UK. Also, it's not that a FRO isn't picking up any episodes (mine's not set to FRO anyway) but that my current SP is now to showing any upcoming episodes at all on any channel. Hoever, a search for ER in "Pick Progs to record" finds them.

See? Completely broked :(

http://www.saynoto0870.com/search.php :up: Tried it with Tivo:
Your search didn't match any records. :(
BTW, you're not the Mark Bennet on QMR are you?

[Mark Bennett]

Tried it with Tivo:
Quote:
Your search didn't match any records.
:(


Darn - oh well, worth a try (It's useful for calling $ky though) :up:



BTW, you're not the Mark Bennet on QMR are you?

Sorry - I don't think so (I'm not sure what QMR is?)

[cwaring]

Well if you don't know you can't be him, can you :D
www.qmr.fm - MB is on now and I'm on @ 4pm!

[P63B]

Postcode: HP13
Platform: Freeview
Channel: More4

Nick Broomfield's new doc on Eugene Terreblanche, His Big White Self (More4, 9pm Mon 27th Feb) is listed as his earlier film on the same subject, The Leader, The Driver And The Driver's Wife - although the listing gives 2006 as the date.

Also a Nick Broomfield director Wishlist does not bring up all the films in the Broomfield season this week on More4.

[amh15]

The IT Crowd on Saturday 25th recorded as 90 minutes rather than 30 minutes. The extra 60 mins was the end of Captain Corelli's Mandolin!

[dave h-j]

Further to Gavin's previous post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3792136&&#post3792136) about "ER", I have to report that my current Season Pass for the show on E4 - TMSID SH115131 - is now broken and is not showing any upcoming episodes. It looks like the show has now been given a new TMSID of SH899732.

I will, of course, be reporting this tomorrow (0870 calls are cheaper on a weekend ;))

Also, the More4 "ER" Season IDs have changes as well, so an old on this channel season pass will not pick up the daily episodes (which my wife was not happy about).

[cwaring]

Yes. I didn't make it clear enough in my post, but ALL episodes of "ER" had dissapeared from the 'upcoming episodes' list which, as we all know, shows every ep on any channel regardless of what channel the specific SP is for :)

[Gavin]

Yes. I didn't make it clear enough in my post, but ALL episodes of "ER" had dissapeared from the 'upcoming episodes' list which, as we all know, shows every ep on any channel regardless of what channel the specific SP is for :)

:cool: :cool:

I know and I called it in again (I actually got the same woman who remembered my first call) , Sorry, Maybe I should have never tried getting this fixed..

I also mentioned about the OAD being the US OAD too.

[regatta]

Callsign: C4
Postcode: GL2
Source: Sky Digital Platform
Programme Name: No Angels
Date/Time: Tue 28 Feb 2006 @ 22:00

When setting up SP (new episodes) TiVo picks up the new C4 episodes, but fails to detect the even newer episodes on E4 (28/02 @ 23:00) & E4+1 (01/03 @ 00:00).

[sjp]

(noticing your post count of "1") a C4 only SP for No Angels wouldn't pick up the E4 episodes as an SP is channel specific, you'd need a seperate SP for the E4 episodes.

Apologies if I've got the wrong end of your stick

[regatta]

Sorry, I didn't realise that, thanks. All fixed now.

[cwaring]

I know and I called it in again (I actually got the same woman who remembered my first call)
I called yesterday and the chap said that they were well aware of the problem.

I also mentioned about the OAD being the US OAD too.
Oh, I didn't mention that bit :)

Sorry, Maybe I should have never tried getting this fixed..
LOL :p

[ozsat]

There was an error with the ER amendments and all should now be corrected - although you'll have to wait untl Thursday's (2nd Mar) download.

The correct id is SH115131

[Foxy]

There was an error with the ER amendments and all should now be corrected - although you'll have to wait untl Thursday's (2nd Mar) download.

The correct id is SH115131


:eek: Just want to check I understand. I have to wait until after Thursday's download and then deleted the new SPs I've just created and recreate the SPs I've just deleted? :confused:

Also, is there any way that, without TivoWeb, I can see the OAD, IDs, etc. ?

[cwaring]

:eek: Just want to check I understand. I have to wait until after Thursday's download and then deleted the new SPs I've just created and recreate the SPs I've just deleted? :confused:
Basically, yes. I haven't bothered re-doing the SP as I was hoping it might not be necessary.

Also, is there any way that, without TivoWeb, I can see the OAD, IDs, etc. ?
Yes. Highlight a programme and press Select, then press Enter. Voila :)

[Foxy]

Highlight a programme and press Select, then press Enter. Voila :)

:up:

[nathan]

Callsign: ITV1
Programme Name: Formula One Racing
Date/Time: 5th March 2006
Problem: Broken season pass. This is the opening programme, a preview to the new season. My Tivo has a thumbs up for against the programme, but my old season pass from last year no longer picks it up.

[nathan]

Callsign: C4
Programme Name: Dispatches
Date/Time: Monday 6th March
Problem: Broken season pass

[mrtickle]

Callsign: ITV1
Programme Name: Formula One Racing
Date/Time: 5th March 2006
Problem: Broken season pass. This is the opening programme, a preview to the new season. My Tivo has a thumbs up for against the programme, but my old season pass from last year no longer picks it up.

However the old season pass from 2002, 2003 and 2004 does pick it up(*). They have merely corrected the mistake! I've now deleted my 2005 SP which I always considered 'rogue' so I'd rather they didn't change anything :)

Whilst it is nice to have fully working hibernating SPs so that you can catch programmes that return unexpectedly that you would have otherwise missed, this is just a bonus. Things like sporting seasons and Big Brother are not a surprise to anyone so it really isn't a hassle to recreate SPs at the right time of year. They are only intended to last a Season (even though they often work spanning across seasons).

*The 2005 SP which is now dormant was SH721138. This 2006 one is SH497944 which is much older (lower number). I have a saved SP backup file from August 2003 with SH497944 in it!

[mrtickle]

Callsign: C4
Programme Name: Dispatches
Date/Time: Monday 6th March
Problem: Broken season pass

I reported this to the call centre on the phone last Saturday, so fingers crossed that it will be fixed in the next day or so. I also reported the year-long Newsnight problem by voice for the first time too.

[Wonder_lander]

Jimmy's Farm
BBC2
28th Feb

Shows as (2004) and it has original air dates of this but the program covers 2005/2006!

[dave h-j]

There was an error with the ER amendments and all should now be corrected - although you'll have to wait untl Thursday's (2nd Mar) download.

The correct id is SH115131

Thanks - luckily I didn't delete the old season pass just in case is was fixed. The "belts and braces" approach as I think ER racks higher than my wellbeing in my wife eyes :rolleyes:

[ozsat]

Heads up for GP fans really.

Formula One Qualifying is on ITV3 - at 5.30am on Friday 17th March. Original listings may have this as ITV2.

Check your SPs.

[=CM=]

BBC2 Apprentice Wed 2100 repeated Tues 1900

Tivo's picked up the original and repeat, so ep2 this week is listed to be re-recorded next Tuesday. Think it's the usual reason: the "(R)" on the end of the description has fooled the masterbrain at HQ. Still, this is failsafe, 2x the prog instead of 0x.

BBC2 Money Programme is back on Fri 1900 but isn't back if you believed your Tivo. No SPs, terse one-liner description, no hope for a Wishlist (I compared the terse desc for the next few weeks, crystal ball needed). Is it timely to abandon all hope here?

[AENG]

Is it timely to abandon all hope here?[/QUOTE]

I guess so. I set up a repeating record by time quite a while back. It's a pain having to delete programmes that sometimes use that slot but better than missing them altogether.

[ozsat]

The problem with the Money Programme is that BBC Scheduling issue a title and synopsis to everyone - and there is no reference in these listings to indicate it is a part of the Money Programme series.

The separate listings which the BBC directly upload to Sky EPG does refer to 'The Money Programme'.

[=CM=]

The problem with the Money Programme is that BBC Scheduling issue a title and synopsis to everyone - and there is no reference in these listings to indicate it is a part of the Money Programme series.
Thanks for that. Onscreen graphics etc do make it obvious it's a "season" of the MP. Guess this means it need a human to decide if 1900 Fridays + yesterday 2200 + random overnight repeats are MP. Your licence fee money at work - the more you pay, the less they offer. I'd be willing to email any "lost" MP eps but can't easily make phone calls to Tivo HQ.

[Gavin]

There was an error with the ER amendments and all should now be corrected - although you'll have to wait untl Thursday's (2nd Mar) download.

The correct id is SH115131

It's not.

It's still got US air dates as the OAD

Next/ Current Ep is I Do OAD 01 Dec 2005

Following that is All About Chrismas Eve OAD 08 Dec 2005

Next is If Not Now OAD 05 Jan 2006

Is there any chance they might actually get this fixed correctly???? Because there are so many ER's on the c4/e4/m4 family it's kinda really important it's right...

[cwaring]

My SP for the E4 showings is working fine. I don't think it's a FROSP but then there's no other season being shown on E4 at the moment anyway so that doesn't matter :)

[AMc]

Call sign: BBC4 (Channel 107)
Programme name: Charlie Brooker's Screen Wipe
Showing Date: Thur 2nd, Thu 9th Mar 22:30

Problem: Is listed as a special but is a series. Listing means you can't set a season pass.
BTW the programme is very entertaining.

[mrtickle]

My SP for the E4 showings is working fine. I don't think it's a FROSP but then there's no other season being shown on E4 at the moment anyway so that doesn't matter :)

Indeed.

1. Are C4 showing two different seasons concurrently?
2. Are E4 showing two different seasons concurrently?
3. Are More4 showing two different seasons concurrently?

If the answer to any of those is "yes", then this is one of the rare cases where a First Run Only season pass might be useful (like the Simpsons on Sky One), and therefore one of the rare cases when the OADs need to be correct.

Otherwise, the OADs absolutely do not matter. Only a tiny minority of your season passes should be using "First Run Only".

[Gavin]

Indeed.

1. Are C4 showing two different seasons concurrently?
2. Are E4 showing two different seasons concurrently?
3. Are More4 showing two different seasons concurrently?

1. Are C4 showing two different seasons concurrently?

Yes at least 2 series's, Current series (12) and series 10

2. Are E4 showing two different seasons concurrently?

No think they are just showing the current one

3. Are More4 showing two different seasons concurrently?

And Again Yes at least 2 series's (1st series) and series 6

Overall there are 4 series running, a Latest series episode is shown 9 times in total, 8 times on E4 /e4+1 and once on C4

If the answer to any of those is "yes", then this is one of the rare cases where a First Run Only season pass might be useful (like the Simpsons on Sky One), and therefore one of the rare cases when the OADs need to be correct.

Otherwise, the OADs absolutely do not matter. Only a tiny minority of your season passes should be using "First Run Only".

The OAD's matter as Tribune don't seem to be able to tag the series right so I end up relying on them to get new episodes.

I've given up on a season pass for ER and I'm relying on a wishlist to get them, but as the OAD's are wrong it never seems to get them right. I could set a Season pass for E4 but that only works until Tribune break the series ID (again!), or iuntil we come to the end of the current season and E4 starts showing repeats of a prior season.

It's compounded by the fact it's a filler program so having the right data is vital to get new ones and not end up with a tivo full of old ER's . Currently in the next two weeks there are 69 upcoming showings which consists of 21 unique shows (is they are repeated a lot to make up the 69 upcoming). As you say it's like the Simpsons and used a filler everywhere.

[woody]

Gavin, I have the same trouble with my ER SP on C4. I've decided to abandon it at the moment and set a manual auto record every week. simple and works.

[lcsneil]

Programme : No Angels (New Series)
Channel C4, E4 & E4+1

Problem Episode Desciptions

C4 ones are correct - it's the E4 ones that are wrong

E4 Tue 7th March @ 2300

OAD is incorrect and descriuption is wrong. Description is of episode 2 and not episode 3


E4+1 (as above)


E4 Tue 14th March @ 2300
OAD is correct. Episode number and description is incorrect (it should be episode 4/8 not 3/8)

E4+1 as above


Neil

[cwaring]

My Tivo wants to record this weekends Charmed-athon on LivingTV even though I have a SP set to FRO :( Naughty Tivo :p

Probably something to do with their being a choice between two episodes every time.

I don't expect it can be fixed in time but just thought I'd mention it :)

[maubp]

New series "Planet Earth" on BBC1 and BBC2 doesn't list David Attenborough, so my wish list didn't pick it up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/programmes/who/david_attenborough.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/planetearth/

[andyharvey]

Call sign: SKY Sports 1
Programme name: Live Test Cricket, England V India 2nd test
Showing Date: Thu 9/Fri 10/Sat 11/Sun 12/ March 2006, 04:15,

Also I think some of the highlights shows are missing.

[ozsat]

Call sign: SKY Sports 1
Programme name: Live Test Cricket, England V India 2nd test
Showing Date: Thu 9/Fri 10/Sat 11/Sun 12/ March 2006, 04:15,

Also I think some of the highlights shows are missing.For somebody who has no interest in cricket, you'll need to explain what the problem is so it can be looked at.

[andyharvey]

For somebody who has no interest in cricket, you'll need to explain what the problem is so it can be looked at.

It would seem to be fixed by my daily call last night. Sky's website guide was wrong and has been updated, my TiVo now aligns with that so all is OK.
Cheers