ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors

[sanderton]

Yet at 3.05pm today (Sunday June 5th) on Sky channel 103 at 3.05pm there is a correct series name listed for FIA World Rally Championship. But if I View Upcoming Episodes for this program I find that in addition to a correctly listed repeat showing of the World Rally Championship program on ITV2 on 7th June that Tribune have also managed to link the quite separate British Eurosport coverage of the World Rally Championships to this series. This is clearly nonsense as I might well want to record both the separate Eurosport series and ITV series coverage of the world rally championship without wishing programs not to be recorded under the 28 day rule etc as is likely to happen here because of this mistaken cross channel linking and identical Tivo series and episode names on ITV1 and British Eurosport..

Worry ye not. The episode name may be the same, but teh all important ID is not - the 28 day rule won't interfere as TiVo sees the Europsport and ITV2 programmes as different episodes of the same series.

[Captain Scarlet]

Worry ye not. The episode name may be the same, but teh all important ID is not - the 28 day rule won't interfere as TiVo sees the Europsport and ITV2 programmes as different episodes of the same series.

But surely the two still shouldn't be linked in any way as these are a completely different program by a different program maker that just happen to cover the same event.

I would no more expect these programs to have any linkage than the General Election program on BBC 1 and the general election program on ITV1. The only thing that should be able to link them together in View Upcoming Episodes is a Keyword or Title Wishlist with the right Keyword or Title.

Surely Season Passes are only mean to link the Upcoming Episodes on different channels under the 28 day and first run and repeats rule etc if they are actually the same program being shown on a different channel. But these aren't the same program or same program maker, they just happen to have similar program names due to the subject material covered.

Given the hash that Tribune have made of the GP2 and World Touring Car Championship program names almost anything seems to be possible.

[cwaring]

I've looked through the guide data for 2 Pints and can't see any issues at all. There are four episodes in the data, all of which appear to be properly set up.
Seems to have corrected itself over-night :) Also, I now realise why it wasn't picking up the ep on 10/06; it was because of the SP I set to get S1 of "24" on BBC1 at the same time :) I should have known that RH wouldn't give the right reason :(

Edited to add:
Okay. I now feel suitably stupid. I was just going through the NP list and what did I find? Yep. A previously-recorded ep of "Ugly Babies" :( Seems like the RH is sometimes correct after all :o :p

[sanderton]

But surely the two still shouldn't be linked in any way as these are a completely different program by a different program maker that just happen to cover the same event.

Indeed, but as they are on different channels, and the epiode IDs are different, there is no actual problem beyone neatness.

[bradleyem]

Channel: UKDrama (Sky 147)
Programme: Dalziel and Pascoe.

The epsode on 23rd June at 9pm (and repeated at 1am) is not being caught on the existing SP, but is marked as a separate one-off program (i.e. no new SP can be set)

[sjp]

More of a heads up than anything else...

Sci Fi
Medical Investigation - Half Life Ep17 June 20th & 24th (only these two showings according to DigiGuide, not the usual three)

Ep 17 is not being picked up by my SP as it claims to have already been recorded on May 23rd.

Half Life (a Third Watch cross over) is being shown out of sequence (according to DigiGuide it has never been shown). The final episode started showing last night (further showings on the 10th and 12th)

This might be explained as there was an actual episode broadcast/ tivo data mismatch in the last week or two, I think ep19 part 1 was recorded with the data for ep18. Perhaps there was a reason for the late swapping though the synopsis doesn't ring any current news related bells.

For those that missed this... It looks to be starting again towards the end of June - It wasn't that bad but did tend to be a bit "how many ways can you tell the same story" - Don't get too attached though, chopped after one season.

[Mizake]

Postcode: HG2
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme: Going to Extremes
Date & Time of Airing: 06/06/05 - about 9pm

Different programme on at this time on Sky listing, TiVo had Going to Extremes

[Mizake]

Postcode: HG2
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme: University Challenge
Date & Time of Airing: 06/06/05 8.30pm

Different programme on at this time on Sky listing, TiVo had Uni Challenge

[cwaring]

Postcode: HG2
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 104
Programme: Going to Extremes
Date & Time of Airing: 06/06/05 - about 9pm

Different programme on at this time on Sky listing, TiVo had Going to Extremes

DigiGuide lists "ER" in that slot.

Postcode: HG2
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme: University Challenge
Date & Time of Airing: 06/06/05 8.30pm

Different programme on at this time on Sky listing, TiVo had Uni Challenge
DigiGuide lists "Traffic Cops" in that slot.

My Tivo agrees. I'm guessing Sky was wrong :)

[AMc]

Mizake - I'm not sure if you're listing what Tivo thought it recorded or what Sky said was on?
FWIW University Challenge used to be on Tuesday at 8.30pm on BBC2 (usually 102).
If you're Tivo hasn't been updating properly it may have the 'generic' templates for BBC1,2 etc. and be trying to record the generic show.
I would double check your last daily call was successful from "Phone and Recorder settings".

[Andy Leitch]

postcode - DG2
provider - Sky
programme - Bollocks To Cancer
channel - 104
time - 9:00pm 9/06

Tribune has taken it upon themselves to censor the title to B.... To Cancer.

That is *not* the programme title!! :down:

Bollocks to Tribune. :up:

[cwaring]

So, you have a wishlist for the word "Bollocks"? Exactly how many programmes do you expect that to pick up? :rolleyes:

[kitschcamp]

To be fair to Tribune, that's how it's advertised in The Radio Times

[Andy Leitch]

So.....the BBC have censored the title too :( .....the proper title is advertised on the Channel 4 website and on Digiguide.

cwaring....it is none of your business what I have as a wishlist.

[cwaring]

cwaring....it is none of your business what I have as a wishlist.
I couldn't give a damn about what WLs you have.

I was trying to make the point that the only problem with censoring this particular show's title would be if you had a WL for that particular word; which is highly unlikely.

Whether Tribune should or should not be censoring anything, I hardly think it worthy of being listed as a scheduling error.

[DazBarber]

If I had children with access to my TiVo, I'm sure I wouldn't want them to see the word b******s. Good on you Tribune!

[kitschcamp]

So.....the BBC have censored the title too :( .....the proper title is advertised on the Channel 4 website and on Digiguide.
But not in Channel 4's *press* advertising, either...

[Gavin]

postcode - CM19
provider - NTL
programme - The Real Da Vinci Code
channel - Discovery (Standard discovery channel) 600 (I think)
time - 9:00pm Friday 10th and 17th June

This is Part 1 and then part 2 next week, is a 2 parter but you cannot set a season pass as they are not marked as a series,

For a change I won't call it in, I only noticed the thing was on this morning so not enough time for tribune to change it. (Heck we only got discovery again last week when NTL re-jigged channels to put this back in the basic line up)

Actually I will call it in, knowing Discovery they'll repeat it many times and hopefully Tribune will tag it a s a seris for subsequent showings.

[pmk]

From today, you should no longer see the generic titles for the five major channels based on a previous schedule. Instead you should just get a repeating channel name for the period where schedules have not been release.
Be assured that Tribune are receiving (and noting) your comments.
A few more annoying programmes that are always appearing. I know you said just the major 5 channels but I am sure I read you were including others in this also but the following programmes have been off air for months and they are still appearing in the recording history many times (times are approx).

3rd Rock From The Sun ITV2 09:25, 09:55, 19:00, 19:30, 00:20, 00:50
Masterchef Goes Large BBC2 18:30
Comic Relief Does Fame Academy CBBC 08:15, 14:15

TIA

[OzSat]

From 8am on Sat 18th June to 6am on Sun 19th June - only the "BBC One" is listing on BBC1WEST, BBC1NW, BBC1STH, BBC1SW.

It has been reported.

[Richardr]

Channel ITV 2
Sunday 12 June
Time 23:50
Programme The Vice

The current set of Vice repeats are two parters. Tivo is only recording the first episode, believing that the second is a repeat of the first, rather than the second episode of two.

Examples are tonight and two weeks ago.

[tefster]

Channel: L!veTV (via Sky Digital)
Date: Pretty much ongoing
Program: Why Files

If possible, could we get the listings for L!ve TV (you can all stop looking at me with
disdain, its for "The Why Files" for SWMBO - no really, honest it is!) updated so that they
are in synch with the schedules. Sky seems to have them correct, TiVo has them generally
incorrect (as does L!veTV's own site!).

More specifically, for herself :-

Why Files is listed on Sky EPG as being on at, 6.30am, 11am, 4pm, 9.30pm. These appear
to be the correct broadcast slot times.
TiVo guide date lists it as being on at 5.30am, 9am, 3pm.
And just for kicks, Livetv.co.uk lists it as being on at 6.30am, 9am.

In terms of a resolution, I appreciate that this is going to be a pretty low priority. But if
it can be fixed that would be great as it would stop me having to have a bunch of manual
recordings and re-jigging them when the schedule changes every few weeks, and also
mean that I don't have a "Now Playing" list with incorrect titles which makes people think
that I'm addicted to "Body Heat", "Strip Masterbrain" and "Orgasmatron"..... :)

[Milhouse]

Oh ffs, can it get any worse...

Episode Title: Barca - The Inside Story
Episode Description: The new board, under the leadership of the charismatic Joan Laporta, attempt to turn an old fashioned Catalan family affair into a global football business.
Duration: 1:30
Original Air Date: Sun 12th Jun 2005
Actors: Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Donovan, Alan Price, Albert Grossman, Allen Ginsberg
Directors: D.A. Pennebaker
Genres: Anthology
Type: Series
Channel: 12 BBC2LDN
Showing Date: Sun 12th Jun 22:30

No, this programme is not the portrait of an artist as a young man, as Pennebaker follows Dylan around England during a 3 week tour (Don't Look Back, 1967). Rather it is about a football team with a board of directors willing to blame the referees for 10 lost points rather than their own team...

Too late to fix it now, but what's going on with this nonsense?

[Captain Scarlet]

Too late to fix it now, but what's going on with this nonsense?
Tribune know that most of the UK customers have paid up front and/or can't go anywhere else so have to take whatever s**t they are shovelled.

[Captain Scarlet]

Channel: L!veTV (via Sky Digital)
Date: Pretty much ongoing
Program: Why Files
you can all stop looking at me with disdain, its for "The Why Files" for SWMBO - no really, honest it isare They also continue to show incorrect program listings for the classic Spanish Archer program on this channel which sadly no longer exists and has been replaced by something altogether much less titillating. ;) :down:

This is an example of the rolling American grid formula Tribune program guide format, with no regular updating, at its worst.

[OzSat]

Channel: L!veTV (via Sky Digital)
Date: Pretty much ongoing
Program: Why Files

If possible, could we get the listings for L!ve TV (you can all stop looking at me with
disdain, its for "The Why Files" for SWMBO - no really, honest it is!) updated so that they
are in synch with the schedules. Sky seems to have them correct, TiVo has them generally
incorrect (as does L!veTV's own site!). L!ve TV are one of those channels that will provide schedules very occasionally - even if you ask you don't usually get them.

They are contracted to provide schedules to Sky EPG - but nobody else.

[Captain Scarlet]

They are contracted to provide schedules to Sky EPG - but nobody else.

Do Sky make Live TV pay a royalty if they supply their EPG data to another EPG distributor like Tribune or Digiguide then?

Otherwise I can't think of any reason for them behaving this way as they clearly have to do all the hard work of putting the data together for Sky's benefit.

And copying someone else into an email doesn't take much time or effort these days.

[OzSat]

Live Tv just don't provide listings to anyone on a regular basis.

The Sky EPG is usually a file transfer - not a supply of listings. So nobody has to retype anything. The files I've seen include information about programme encryption etc.

As it is a file designed by Sky - they may be unhappy for others to have this file.

Lots of channels will not provide listings - I have no idea why.

[Captain Scarlet]

The Sky EPG is a file transfer - not a supply of listings.

Couldn't they transfer that file somewhere else with no extra effort? I say that as one familiar with specifically such technology from several years working for a company that centrally collated daily data from financial services companies and started collecting daily data files sent previously only to the Financial Times.

I bet you will find that Sky have a restrictive agreement in place preventing the EPG data file intended for them from being sent to anyone else. If I know Sky as well as I think I do I bet they have even patented the data format of the file.

[cwaring]

Tribune know that most of the UK customers have paid up front and/or can't go anywhere else so have to take whatever s**t they are shovelled.

Or, as has now been clarified, Tribune can only work with what they are given. It is not their fault if the listings the cahnnel provides are not accurate; but we've deja'd this vu before :)

[Gavin]

Can we try and keep discussions out of this thread (as per the title) unless they are directly related to an error. I suspect most people check here often and it's a a pain having to read all these discussion comments just to find errors.

[Captain Scarlet]

Can we try and keep discussions out of this thread (as per the title) unless they are directly related to an error. I suspect most people check here often and it's a a pain having to read all these discussion comments just to find errors.
The discussion here was directly related to an error in the Tivo EPG.

Specifically the reasons why the Tivo program guide contains months out of date template listings for Live TV, as opposed to a genuinely accurate representation of what is in any case a very formulaic and predictable set of daily content that only changes very occasionally. Yet Tribune have not caught up with that one off very occasional change. Also if the channel won't provide any EPG listings but its in the Sky 7 day EPG in my opinion it is Tribune's duty to try to match any channel listed in the Sky EPG by whatever means it can use to source the data. To say the channel isn't playing ball is not good enough.

If this sort of discussion is not allowed here then it should be made impossible to subscribe to this thread so that one then knows when further messages have been posted in the thread reporting program errors. If the thread worked that way there would be no chance at all of any discussion breaking out here.

It would only be a mere posting ground for program error reports.

Anyhow in an attempt to be helpful Ozsat has already set precedent by sometimes being prepared to enter into a discussions here as to why listings are not accurate for such and such a channel.

[cwaring]

Yet Tribune have not caught up with that one off very occasional change.
I think it would be more accurate (or should that be simply 'accurate') to say that LiveTV have got told Tribune (or anyone else other than Sky!) of the schedule changes.

Also if the channel won't provide any EPG listings but its in the Sky 7 day EPG in my opinion it is Tribune's duty to try to match any channel listed in the Sky EPG by whatever means it can use to source the data. To say the channel isn't playing ball is not good enough.
Whereas I believe that, if a channel does not want to tell people what they're showing, they only have themselves to blame when no-one watches their channel :D

[Captain Scarlet]

Whereas I believe that, if a channel does not want to tell people what they're showing, they only have themselves to blame when no-one watches their channel :D

I suspect that Live TV and True Movies may actually want us to have accurate EPG information (all other things being equal which they are definitely not here) but that the machiavellian nature of the EPG arrangements with Sky may mean that small channels cannot afford whatever royalties are required to send the data file prepared for Sky to other parties as well.

Bigger channels are prepared to duplicate labour and resources to come up with a different data format in order to avoid the Sky EPG stranglehold issue but for a very small channel with few viewers that may unfortunately not be at all cost effective.

I don't just pay Tribune to dumbly accept whatever data they are given. If they did that for all their program listings we Tivo users would all be in a lot of trouble.

Instead I expect that they are program channel listings professionals and will use their professional expertise to deliver us they very best possible service within their professional capabilities.

[sanderton]

I too may have discussed things on this thread, but you have been asked nicely to stop.


It would only be a mere posting ground for program error reports.


is the idea.

[bradleyem]

*sigh*

Doctor Who Confidential has been split into two SP's for the week - the showing on Sunday at 7:45pm is a separate SP.

At least it's the last ep.


Oh, while I'm on the topic - Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide is on BBC 1 at Sat 6:15pm immediately before CE gets it...

Now, do I get rid of the 1 minute padding on Dr Who, or record DW:TUG with 45 minutes padding???

Oh, wait, no 45 min option. Bugger.

TiVo must not miss that one. Half a million Daleks and I'm at a wedding.

:mad:

mine :p

[Captain Scarlet]

I too may have discussed things on this thread, but you have been asked nicely to stop.

That was by a gentleman called Gavin I believe. Not by Ozsat or by Gary (speaking of which where is Gary is he on his own Long Way Round world tour or something?).

But Stuart doesn't your own post here continue the problem of us deviating from the program listings posts?

But as I said make it impossible to subscribe to this thread for subsequent post notifications and there is no danger of any discussion getting going.

Better still replace this thread with a database entry type screen where one plugs in program name, date, time, type of problem and then freehand box for comments that are seen only by Ozsat.

I might stay subscribed to this thread for now to see if you respond to this but any moment soon I am going to unsubscribe.

[ArwelP]

Channel: Five
Date: Pretty much every night for the next fortnight.
Programme: Poker

Five is showing the European Poker Tour every weeknight this week and next, starting sometime between midnight and 1.20 am, and wouldn't you know, they all have the description '"Pokerstarscom European Poker Tour" (2005) (Stereo)'. Tribune, please pull your finger out, this is only the fastest-growing spectator sport in the country!

[OzSat]

*sigh*

Doctor Who Confidential has been split into two SP's for the week - the showing on Sunday at 7:45pm is a separate SP.

There are actually different editions - with Sunday's being cut down to 15 minutes.

Really - it should say "cut" in the title or synopsis.

[Captain Scarlet]

There are actually different editions - with Sunday's being cut down to 15 minutes.

Really - it should say "cut" in the title or synopsis.

I have had to set up a manual recording for the first three and three quarter hours of the Le Mans 24 Hours (instead of the full 4 hour program) on TopUpTv Eurosport Ch49 because the last quarter of an hour overlapped with the Dr Who special program. It seems strange there is no option in the normal program selection methods to ask a program one is recording to underrun at the start or end rather than merely being forced to choose between recording one or the other. Interestingly the manual recording is still showing as being Le Mans in the to do list and not just as a manal recording on Ch49.

I can't understanding them cutting some showings of Dr Who Confidential in half in the final and most dramatic week of the series. Surely with BBC's One to Four and the Interactive channels available these days they can't really be that short of air time space?

[OzSat]

I can't understanding them cutting some showings of Dr Who Confidential in half in the final and most dramatic week of the series. Surely with BBC's One to Four and the Interactive channels available these days they can't really be that short of air time space?For the past 2-3 weeks, Saturday Confidentials have been 30 minutes - Sunday Confidentials have been 15 minutes.

[sanderton]

Channel: Sky Sports

The coverage of the British Lions and the other summer rugby tours has dissolved into utter chaos in the EPG. :(

There are no less than six series to which games are seemingly randomly allocated: International Rugby Union (x2) and Rugby (x4)

The following "episodes" should ALL be under a single SP entitled "International Rugby Union":

Wellington v British & Irish Lions - 2nd Test (NOT the second test; this is an error)
New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 1st Test & Australia/Italy & Sth Africa/France
Churchill Cup - 3rd and 4th Place Play-Off and Final
New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 2nd Test & Australia v France
International League -- Otago v British & Irish Lions (Union not League)
International League - 1st Test - South Africa v France (Union not League)
International League -- Otago v British & Irish Lions and South Africa v France (Union not League)
International Union - Southland v British & Irish Lions
International Union - Churchill Cup - USA v Argentina & England v Canada
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 1st Test Preview
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 1st Test
International Union - Australia v Italy
International League - 2nd Test - South Africa v France (Union not League)
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 1st Test & Australia/Italy & S Africa/France
International Union Churchill Cup - 3rd & 4th Play-off and Final (Duplicate of the one above)
International Union - Australia v France
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 2nd Test
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 2nd Test & Australia v France

As thes game go out at 8am UK time most will be being recorded, so this is a big issue! Any rugby fans would be well advised to set up manual recordings.

[Captain Scarlet]

Channel: Sky Sports

The coverage of the British Lions and the other summer rugby tours has dissolved into utter chaos in the EPG. :(


I am beginning to tend towards the view that Tribune may in fact have cut the staffing that is deployed to maintaining and especially troubleshooting the uk EPG listings.

Nothing scientific or factual you understand but purely the result of the number of unhappy punters making reports of serious errors in this thread of late.

[groovyclam]

Plea to ozsat -> some people seem incapable of sticking to the "no conversation" and insist on jumping in with inane excuses for Tribune or totally off topic whinging etc.

Can I suggest you edit this thread and if the post isn't an "error on channel X with programme Y" you just delete their post.

If people see their posts deleted they will soon get the hint what this thread is for.

[OzSat]

If its not a report or correction to a report - perhaps everyone can start a new thread.

[pmk]

This one is unbelievable!

Doctor Who 19:00 BBC1 is not recording with my Auto Recording Wish List. The programme name (yes name) on at this time is called "BBC One" so this it why my Title Wish List is not picking it up.

I am up to date with daily calls.

I suggest you double check your To Do list if the series finale of Doctor Who is important.

Looking at the guide date all programmes after 08:00 on Saturday are set to the name "BBC One" in 4 hour chunks. Perhaps we do not get the guide data for this yet but I have never seen it cutting it this fine. Sunday from 06:00 seems to have some data so I can only think its a problem with Saturday.

HTH

[OzSat]

This one is unbelievable!

Doctor Who 19:00 BBC1 is not recording with my Auto Recording Wish List. The programme name (yes name) on at this time is called "BBC One" so this it why my Title Wish List is not picking it up.

I am up to date with daily calls.

I suggest you double check your To Do list if the series finale of Doctor Who is important.

Looking at the guide date all programmes after 08:00 on Saturday are set to the name "BBC One" in 4 hour chunks. Perhaps we do not get the guide data for this yet but I have never seen it cutting it this fine. Sunday from 06:00 seems to have some data so I can only think its a problem with Saturday.

HTHI reported this in post #126 above (unfortunatly its got lost in too much discussion). There was a problem which should be resolved in Wednesday's download.

[Zaichik]

If it's not, then try BBC Wales on Sky 942 - that has correct guide data.

[DuncanCorps]

Postcode: SG3 6EA

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: Toonami

Channel Number: 621

Programme Name: various

Time/Date Of Airing: 22:40 on 15 June 2005 to 06:00 on 16 Jun 2005 (and every night?)

Problem Encountered:
As a thirty-something, I'm nostalgiac about Transformers and have a season pass on Toonami. I've thus noticed that various programmes have incorrect start and/ or finish times;

22:40 - Megas XLR
23:50 - Transformers Energon - Sky EPG has 23:55
01:00 - Samurai Jack - Sky EPG has 01:10
02:20 - Beyblade
03:30 - Transformers Energon - Sky EPG has 03:35
03:50 - Megas XLR - Sky EPG has 03:55
05:00 - Samurai Jack - Sky EPG has 05:15
06:00 onward is correct

I compared TiVo and Sky guide data in case Sky's own web site could be used as a reliable free source (for Tribune or the general public). Interestingly, TiVo agrees with Sky's web site (except for titles of Pokemon, Dragonball and Justice League programmes) but Sky's EPG has different guide data which seems to be correct (apart from title of Teen Titans). To put it another way, Sky's web site (incorrect) has different guide data from Sky's EPG (correct). I know it's not our place to debug other companies' procedures, but how can two parts of Sky disagree?

It's a shame Tribune can't scrape http://www.sky.com/skycom/tvguide to reliably check or populate their guide data.

[lcsneil]

MILE HIGH

Sky 1
NOW - 15th June
10pm - 11pm Tivo shows Mile High but in fact Road Wars is on.

(Digiguide is correct but sky.com agrees with Tivo!)

Mile high is actually on an hour later 11pm-midnight according to the EPG

As this is the first showing of the week for this new episode you wont automatically get it recorded later on in the week because of the 28 day rule.

(I only spotted it by chance as it was recording being 2 episodes behind).

Neil

[swuk]

BBCR1
Fri 18:00-21:00
The Essential Selection with Pete Tong
Telewest Devon

I recently set a Season Pass for this, but it has only recorded the first programme. In the recording history it lists the following programmes as "Won't Record", because the programme has already been recorded.

[steveroe]

MILE HIGH

Sky 1
NOW - 15th June
10pm - 11pm Tivo shows Mile High but in fact Road Wars is on.

(Digiguide is correct but sky.com agrees with Tivo!)

Mile high is actually on an hour later 11pm-midnight according to the EPG

As this is the first showing of the week for this new episode you wont automatically get it recorded later on in the week because of the 28 day rule.

(I only spotted it by chance as it was recording being 2 episodes behind).

Neil

Everything was bumped back an hour at short notice from 9 pm due to a Michael Jackson special

[kitschcamp]

Late change to ITV2 schedules for Saturday night, just being reported by Atlasf1.com:

"[F1 qualifying for Indianapolis] ITV will now show Saturday's action on their ITV2 channel - starting from 18:50 British time."

[MarkR]

Tonights Big Brother on CH4 is only scheduled 22:00 - 22:50 but it now finishes 23:05

[sanderton]

Channel: Sky Sports

The coverage of the British Lions and the other summer rugby tours has dissolved into utter chaos in the EPG. :(

There are no less than six series to which games are seemingly randomly allocated: International Rugby Union (x2) and Rugby (x4)

The following "episodes" should ALL be under a single SP entitled "International Rugby Union":

Wellington v British & Irish Lions - 2nd Test (NOT the second test; this is an error)
New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 1st Test & Australia/Italy & Sth Africa/France
Churchill Cup - 3rd and 4th Place Play-Off and Final
New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 2nd Test & Australia v France
International League -- Otago v British & Irish Lions (Union not League)
International League - 1st Test - South Africa v France (Union not League)
International League -- Otago v British & Irish Lions and South Africa v France (Union not League)
International Union - Southland v British & Irish Lions
International Union - Churchill Cup - USA v Argentina & England v Canada
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 1st Test Preview
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 1st Test
International Union - Australia v Italy
International League - 2nd Test - South Africa v France (Union not League)
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 1st Test & Australia/Italy & S Africa/France
International Union Churchill Cup - 3rd & 4th Play-off and Final (Duplicate of the one above)
International Union - Australia v France
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 2nd Test
International Union - New Zealand v British & Irish Lions 2nd Test & Australia v France

As thes game go out at 8am UK time most will be being recorded, so this is a big issue! Any rugby fans would be well advised to set up manual recordings.

Now largely sorted, thanks!

[ericd121]

Channel ITV1
Programme Celebrity Love Island
Date/Time Monday 20th June 9:00pm
Problem Incorrect Start Time and Duration

Radio Times (http://www.radiotimes.com/) has start time as 9:00pm, duration as 90 minutes.

TiVo has start time as 9:30pm, duration as 60 minutes.

It's the live finale.

The previous programme, Coronation Street, has been stretched by TiVo to 60 minutes;
its duration should be 30 minutes.

[kitschcamp]

Late change to ITV2 schedules for Saturday night, just being reported by Atlasf1.com:

"[F1 qualifying for Indianapolis] ITV will now show Saturday's action on their ITV2 channel - starting from 18:50 British time."

Many thanks for changing the listings! My bacon is saved.

[Mal]

For the last few weeks the TiVo schedule for BBC News 24 has differed from the actual schedule (that the BBC publish on their website). For example, I get it to record: Fast Track, Click Online and Talking Movies in the early hours of Saturday but there's always something else on instead of what the TiVo expects.

[peteroddan]

Had a quick search for this thread, couldn't see this one...

5ive days to midnight, the sci fi two parter on Channel 4 at the moment and concluded tomorrow night seems to have a problem with the season pass.

It's listed in the schedule as two seperate programs, so both will need to be manually recorded.

[cwaring]

This "problem" has been brought up before. Does a one-off 2-parter really *need* a SP?

(Mods.. can we have a "Special Thread" for discussion of posts in here? :))

[cwaring]

... more like an anomoly that I can't figure out.

Platform: Telewest
Channel: Sky One
Programme: "Star Trek: Enterprise"
Day: Sunday
Date: 19/06/05
Time: 4:00pm

I have a FROSP for this programme, yet my Tivo had this scheduled to record. The OAD given is back in 2003 so it should know it's not a new ep. Am I missing something?

[sanderton]

The OAD for that episode is "Wed 19th May 2004".

[cwaring]

Hmmm.. Mine definately says "9th April 2003". Guess it really is a rougue ep :)

Unless you're referring to the actual UK OAD and not the Tivo (US?) OAD?

[sanderton]

I'm referring to the TiVo OAD as shown in my guide data.

[lcsneil]

Apologies for the 'discussion' but mine also says OAD as 9th April 2003 - same as cwaring - in the guide data looking via Tivoweb.

(And that is SkyOne direct off satellite)

Neil

[pahunt]

More of a heads up than anything else as it's a bit short notice and I can't find any definite confirmation, but DigitalSpy are reporting that the second part of tomorrows (Friday) Big Brother has been extended to an hour rather than the scheduled 35 minutes.

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7958.html

Interestingly the Channel 4 website is currently still showing it as 35 minutes.

[sfalvey]

20th June - Sci Fi Channel on Sky 10pm - Salem's Lot

Tivo description was showing it as the 1979 original movie starring James Mason and Savid Soul. However it was actually the TV miniseries from 2004 starring Rutger Hauer and Donald Sutherland.

I have not checked to see if pt 2 is also similarly mis-listed.

[ericd121]

More of a heads up than anything else as it's a bit short notice and I can't find any definite confirmation, but DigitalSpy are reporting that the second part of tomorrows (Friday) Big Brother has been extended to an hour rather than the scheduled 35 minutes.

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7958.html

Interestingly the Channel 4 website is currently still showing it as 35 minutes.The Radio Times (http://www.radiotimes.com/) site confirms this.

10:00pm - 11:05pm Big Brother Live (The one with Davina)
11:05pm - 12:15am Johnny Vegas: 18 Stone of Idiot (Funny Fat Bloke being unfunny)
12:15am - 2:55am Big Brother Live (Streaming and screaming)

[cwaring]

DigiGuide has it as well. Just being thorough ;)

[LJ]

Gardeners' World
BBC2
Fri 8th July 8pm

This episode has been given a new series as it's titled "Gardeners' World Live".

[LJ]

Are there still problems with the database at Tribune? I've just spotted a few more mutated SPs:

Britains Best Buildings - BBC2
Pulling Power - ITV1
The Apprentice - BBC2/3
Style World - DTRAV

[sanderton]

The Apprentice is the US edition, so should be on a separate SP to the UK one, if that's the issue.

[scrowe]

Seems to be a dead season pass here, even though it's showing again on Sun after a 1-week hiatus. I've had to recreate my season pass and delete the old one.

[cwaring]

My SP is working okay. Not sure if it's the original or the re-created one from a few weeks back though :confused:

[Mr 999]

The Apprentice is the US edition, so should be on a separate SP to the UK one, if that's the issue.

But the UK one sat in the SP that belonged to US Series 1.

[cwaring]

Callsign: SKYONE
Programme Name: 24
Date/Time: 04-July-05, 11:00pm
Problem: OAD wrong

Can someone please tell the idiot that changed the OAD (to the date given above) to please set it back again to 30-Jan-05 so that the a FROSP will work as it's supposed to.

Did that make sense?

Yes, I am going to call CS about it ;)

[sanderton]

Or you could just cancel the SP as it's finished now. I have some sympathy for Tribune as it requires you to know that "6am-7am" and "7am-8am", shown on sucessive Mondays on Sky 1, are not actually sequential episodes!

[cwaring]

Yes I could, but wouldn't that defeat the idea that SPs can pick up the next Season when it starts without my having to bother with it?

Also, as Sky have already shown "Day 4" (last 2 eps tomorrow!) then surely they can tell it's a repeat?

[sanderton]

Only if you know "Day 4: 7-8am" comes BEFORE "Day 4: 6-7am". If you don't watch 24, you wouldn't know that.

[cwaring]

Fine, but surely they can see that they've had "24: Day 4" in their Sky One listings data for the last 23 weeks? Would that not be a clue?

[sanderton]

They are building the EPG not watching the TV!

[cwaring]

Well surely the EPG would know? :) (Okay, no more. "This is turning into a discussion now!" :D)

[Richardr]

A bit late, but yesterday's CD:UK had an original air date of 26/5/05 - hence did not record. This was the same for the two ITV1 showings.

Today's ITV2 repeat (of yesterday's show) has a 5/2/05 original air date.

Going back to a previously reported problem, tonight's edition of The Vice on ITV3 (midnight) won't record, as the guide thinks it is a repeat of last week's rather then the second in a two parter.

[groovyclam]

Generic future data for BBC Radio 7 has default programme details and cast for "Round the Horne" instead of just saying something like "BBC 7 programme"

My ToDo list is full of BBC7 until the data is filled correctly nearer to transmission.

[browellm]

Programme: Poker (World Heads-up championship)
Channel: Sky Travel (11)
Platform: Freeview
When: Now and the next couple of weeks.

Problem: This programme is on every day at various times, sometimes more than once a day. Tivo isn't recording them because of the 28 day rule, but they are all discreet progs.

[pmk]

Obvious changes to the schedule due to recent events (from C4 web site):

Channel 4

Thursday 30th June 2005
15:00 Countdown (Semi Final 1)
15:45-16:30 Countdown (Semi Final 2)

Friday 31st June 2005
14:30 Richard Whiteley - Television Man
15:15 Countdown Grand Final
16:00-16:30 Mr Countdown: A Tribute to Richard Whiteley

[UncUgly]

Platform: Sky
Channel: Sky One & Sky Mix
Programme: Long Way Round
Day: Various
Date: Various
Time: Various

This is a revised repeat of the Ewan McGregor travel-documentary thing, but a SP is getting all episodes in one week, even if they are the same - so the 28day rule is borked on them.

Off to kill the duplicate to-do items now !

uu

[pahunt]

More of a heads up than anything else as it's a bit short notice and I can't find any definite confirmation, but DigitalSpy are reporting that the second part of tomorrows (Friday) Big Brother has been extended to an hour rather than the scheduled 35 minutes.

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7958.html

Interestingly the Channel 4 website is currently still showing it as 35 minutes.

Channel 4 have done the same again this week

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds8043.html

[lcsneil]

Platform: Sky
Channel: Sky One
Programme: Mile High
Date: 6th July
Time: 22:00

A word of warning , this week's episode of Mile High is shown as having an original on air date of 16th Feb 03 and so any First Run Season pass (as mine is) WONT pick up this week's episode.

Obviously the OAD date should be 6th July 05

Neil

[randap]

The problem with The Tonight Show is that all episodes have been given one specific episode's TMSId, EP0043973381, instead of the generic ID they should have been given of SH0043970000 - easy for Tribune to fix. Even better would be a real epiode ID for each one of course.

Tonight Show
CNBC Europe - Sky 510
Daily 10pm

I too would like this fixed. I have to watch live TV...

<-----slinks off to punish oneself :o

[=CM=]

prog: Mock the Week
station: BBC2
when: first show Sunday 22:00, repeat Thursday 23:20ish

problemo: TiVo thinks each airing is new and doesn't detect a repeat. This happened 2 weeks ago, last week worked properly, next week is listed in the ToDo to record both Sunday's and Thursday's transmissions.

[sjp]

Heads Up Time

If you're relying on BBC3 for tonights Murrayfield Live 8 gig the data (before todays download) seems to be a bit lacking.

IIRC TiVo has it on at 21:45 for an hour and a half (as does DigiGuide)

This morning the SKY EPG was showing it as being on for 3 hours from 21:45 (as listed on the BBC3 schedule page at bbc.co.uk)

SKY users can get a live (?) feed from BBC2 Scotland if you're interested

enjoy

stuart

[dallardice]

The Live 8 Murrayfield schedules only changed last night. The full feed is on BBC2 Scotland from 8pm to 10.30pm and then on BBC1 Scotland from 10.45pm to 11.15pm (although, given Saturday's concert, it could well overrun)

[cwaring]

I know some people are subscribed to this thread so, Taken from here (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds22366.html):

5pm: BBC confirms primetime schedule changes: 6pm bulletin to last one hour; regional news shunted to 7pm. EastEnders to air as normal at 7.30pm, with news updates at 8pm (30 minutes) and 9pm (10 minutes). Elephant Diaries and Ground Force: Mandela Special to air at 8.30pm and 9.10pm respectively. 10pm news bulletin to continue as normal, with Question Time shifting its agenda accordingly for a 10.40pm broadcast. News 24 will begin at 12.25am after This Week.

5.15pm: ITV1 will continue its news special through 7pm, before breaking for Emmerdale, local programming and The Bill. A two-hour news special will blanket primetime from 9pm. Channel 4 has pencilled in an additional news special following Big Brother at 10.50pm, while Five intends to stick with its intended primetime lineup.

[cwaring]

"The Hampton Court Flower Show" and "Bank Of Mum And Dad" have been swapped around so the former is now on @ 8pm and the latter on @ 9pm.

Hope this is in time to help someone :)

[NickDvl]

Not sure what's happening today, but I've spotted three errors so far:

The Siege (ITV1LON) at 22h15 is not being show. Gone in 60 Seconds appears to have been broadcast instead?

Earlier today, I also noticed that "The Basil Brush Show" was actually on BBC2 at 10h30 instead of BBC1. And mysteriously, "Saturday Kitchen" was on BBC1 instead of BBC2 at the same time. What's going on? Surely the guide data hasn't gotten this bad?!?

[cwaring]

Clue: Something happened on Thursday :)

CBBC was moved to BBC2 on Saturday for an extra news programme on BBC1 and you really think anyone would let ITV show a film like that after what happened? Okay, well, I would but then I wasn't directly involved!

[pmk]

>The Siege (ITV1LON) at 22h15 is not being show. Gone in 60
>Seconds appears to have been broadcast instead?

I suspect The Siege was totally inappropriate after what happened Thursday morning! Use this URL http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2005/london_explosions/default.stm

For others I guess with all the changes to the schedule it can be expected programmes may appear on other channels etc as it takes TiVo 3 days to populate updated guide data any "last minute" changes do not make it into the system.

My paper based TV guide has Basil Brush on BBC1 and Saturday Kitchen on BBC2 so the TiVo schedule was correct at some point. My best guess was Weekend 24 on BBC2 over ran 30 minutes so Saturday Lunch was put on BBC1 and BBC2 then took on some programmes that were going to be on BBC1.

[lcsneil]

Channel: Sky One
Programme: Is Harry on the Boat
Date: 10th / 17th & 24th July
Time: 00:55 / 01:00 / 01:55

Series pass is broken last time it was on the Series ID was 20983 and it is now showing as 1950721.

The OAD are also showing as July 2005 despite the fact they are repeats and first shown in 2002 or 2003 (I cant remember exactly which year)

Neil

[Mark Bennett]

Season 4 of "24" was scheduled to start again this last week, but each Episode 1 (hour 1) showing has been Start Trek Next Gen instead. (Both on Sky 1 and SkyMix).

I'm guessing the happenings on Thursday have been the cause (please don't post "yes it's because xyz happens on the show" - I haven't seen it yet! (Was out of the country when it was first shown) and had it scheduled...

Wonder if it's just Episode 1, or if they've postponed the whole thing?

[NickDvl]

Didn't realise The Seige would be inappropriate. Ah well... Not sure what happened to the second episode of Arrested Development on BBC4 either, probably also something to do with Thursday's events?

[Smid]

Callsign: FIVE on telewest digital
Programme Name: Joey
Date/Time: 10/7/05
Problem: Joey's season pass is utterly borked.

I thought someone did something about it three weeks ago when first complained about. The original Joey season pass I have has no upcoming episodes, the Sunday showing is unlinked to the Monday season pass, and in general, its kind of messed up.

[Smid]

Callsign: ABC1 on telewest digital
Programme Name: Scrubs
Date/Time: 10/7/05 and in general
Problem: Scrubs isn't where it says it is.

Recorded 2 different programmes yesterday

[cwaring]

Callsign: FIVE on telewest digital
Programme Name: Joey
Date/Time: 10/7/05
Problem: Joey's season pass is utterly borked.

I thought someone did something about it three weeks ago when first complained about. The original Joey season pass I have has no upcoming episodes, the Sunday showing is unlinked to the Monday season pass, and in general, its kind of messed up.

Mine's intact. Not sure whether it's a new SP or the old one though, but try re-creating it. The ep data *is* correct!

[mark.stringer]

On Saturday BBC1 and BBC2 seemed to swap their programmes around for some reason. My NTL guide knew about this but Tivo did not so missed Saturday Kitchen!

This morning, Monday, Tivo thinks BBC1NI is BBC NEWS from 09:00 through to 18:30! The other BBC1 variants in the 920 range seem ok. I tried another daily call to no avail.

[cwaring]

On Saturday BBC1 and BBC2 seemed to swap their programmes around for some reason. My NTL guide knew about this but Tivo did not so missed Saturday Kitchen!
Check Posts #202-204 :)

This morning, Monday, Tivo thinks BBC1NI is BBC NEWS from 09:00 through to 18:30! The other BBC1 variants in the 920 range seem ok. I tried another daily call to no avail.
No idea :)

[pmk]

This morning, Monday, Tivo thinks BBC1NI is BBC NEWS from 09:00 through to 18:30! The other BBC1 variants in the 920 range seem ok. I tried another daily call to no avail.

Check post 152/153 this has happened before. Hopefully Tribune will fix / Ozsat will give them a poke it not like its a minor channel probably too late to sort now anyway unless other days have the same problem!

[Smid]

Mine's intact. Not sure whether it's a new SP or the old one though, but try re-creating it. The ep data *is* correct!

(On Joey problems)

Well, ok, I can recreate the season pass, but for the third week in a row the Sunday showing has no "Upcoming episodes" and isn't linked to the Monday showing. Are you sure yours is Telewest? Is it possible to have a problem on Telewest but for it to be ok on normal terrestrial?

[cwaring]

(On Joey problems)

Well, ok, I can recreate the season pass, but for the third week in a row the Sunday showing has no "Upcoming episodes" and isn't linked to the Monday showing.
Strange :confused:

Are you sure yours is Telewest?
Well, I've been paying TW for years and have all their stuff in my place so I think I'm with them ;) I'm on their Digital service though, not analogue.

Is it possible to have a problem on Telewest but for it to be ok on normal terrestrial?
I would presume not, but have no real idea. Ozsat'll know :D

[cwaring]

Before I get too worried, could I just ask if anyone else's EPG data for BBC3 stops this Saturday, the 16th? Thanks!

[mark.stringer]

Hi Carl. My BBC3 listings are running ok up to Sat 23rd FYI.

[cwaring]

Turns out that it couldn't connect for the daily call yesterday. That said, I would have thought that the listings would have downloaded earlier than now. :)

[bradleyem]

Although not a Tivo error, todays double CSI has been posponed until next week. Those with a SP should be aware that this will most likely mess up their season pass. Manual recordings may be needed.

[Logan]

Eurosport listing error .
Cycling on Brit Eurosport has a pre and post discussion programme.
eg today
11am live cycling
11:15 Live cycling - the actual race
4:30pm Live cycling ( till 5:00pm)

The list is OK, it's the program length that appears to be wrong.
I have a season pass set & the second programme is not being recorded.
The 11am programme was showing in to do as overlapping the second 11:15 programme & so the main race at 11:15 doesn't record.
The programme is correct in the listing though & just shows 11:00 - 11:15. ??
If you record each episode manually it is OK !
This was happening every day. (workaround - have just set a manual recording for 6 hrs every day)

postcode SW6
provider homechoice
channel Eurosport
channel no 560

[juphill]

Channel: E4 (144)
Provider: NTL
Postcode: SG1
Programme: One Tree Hill
Date/Time: 21:00 on Thursday 21st July
Problem: FROSP not picking up the new series

[sjp]

Although not a Tivo error, todays double CSI has been posponed until next week. Those with a SP should be aware that this will most likely mess up their season pass. Manual recordings may be needed.

the Sky EPG is now showing the 2 episodes - same time next Tuesday

[cwaring]

As it should, seeing as each channel is responsible for it's own EPG and is fined if it is incorrect. I sometimes think that Tribune should adopt a similar policy ;) :D

Re CSI... I was disappointed too, but this (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds22549.html) article explains it.

WARNING: ABOVE ARTICLE CONTAINS PLOT-LINE SPOILER!!

The double-length episode, directed by Quentin Tarantino, included a storyline involving a suicide bomber.

[tartan_haggis]

Tried to record "Spooks" on UK Gold 2 +1 the other night - what I got was "Friday Night with Jonathan Ross" .... interesting substitution.

[kitschcamp]

Given Spooks fairly consistent storyline (terrorism...) do you think it may have been something to do with last week?

[etrigan]

Channel: C5 (144)
Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: M15
Programme: CSI
Date/Time: 21:00 -2300 on Tue 19th July
Problem: EPG not showing that last week's postponed double ep has been rescheduled

[OzSat]

Channel: C5 (144)
Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: M15
Programme: CSI
Date/Time: 21:00 -2300 on Tue 19th July
Problem: EPG not showing that last week's postponed double ep has been rescheduledSeems your calls are not up-to-date - my TiVos show the reschedule episode.

[etrigan]

Seems your calls are not up-to-date - my TiVos show the reschedule episode.

Hmm. Could be - my Tivo seems to try get guide data at really odd times just now. Have scheduled a daily call and will report back.

[cwaring]

Seems your calls are not up-to-date - my TiVos show the reschedule episode.
Well, my last call was today (Friday) @ 0419 but my Tivo is still showing the originally scheduled repeats too, not the re-scheduled eps. Maybe tomorrow?

[kitschcamp]

After about 8am UK seems to be the cut-off time

[bradleyem]

Rock Star: INXS
Channel: TMF (448) and VH1UK (441)
Time: Various, stars Sunday at 8pm

Tivo seems to think that all episodes are correct. I don't actually know the full schedule, but at the moment only one episode will get recorded.

[cwaring]

Well, my last call was today (Friday) @ 0419 but my Tivo is still showing the originally scheduled repeats too, not the re-scheduled eps. Maybe tomorrow?

It's now in the EPG but you may have to select it yourself as Tivo may think the 28-day rule applies; ie it thinks it recorded it last week :)

[Mr 999]

It's now in the EPG but you may have to select it yourself as Tivo may think the 28-day rule applies; ie it thinks it recorded it last week :)

But if Tribune go to the bother of updating the EPG, they'll surely update the hidden episode code as well.

[Obligatory Guide Data Error to avoid being told off for discussion]
Top Gear repeats on Tuesday are again being flagged as new episodes, which means Tivo misses the Tour de France. Please can these repeats be given the same codes as the Sunday episodes? Cheers?

[cwaring]

Well they haven't yet ;)

[OzSat]

On my TiVo - CSI is set to record First Runs only and for Tuesday episode it is set to record.

Please keep discussions of of this thread as I do not have time to read through everything trying to pick out genuine errors - and so some will (have) got missed!

[lcsneil]

Channel: Sky1 & SkyMix
Postcode: W12
Programme: Mile High
Date/Time:
22:00 Wed 20th July - Sky 1
23:00 Fri 22nd July Skymix
23:00 Sat 23rd July Sky1

Problem: OAD 24th Sep 2004! So FRO not picking up the Series Finale!!!


Neil

[AENG]

SG17
Freeview
BBC2
Monday 25 July 9.00 p.m.
"The New Al-Qaeda"
This 3-parter does not allow the setting of a series pass.

[Gavin]

Channel: Five
Postcode: CM19
Programme: House
Date/Time: 21/7 10PM and 28/7 10PM

Episodes have the same episode title but different descriptions, judging by the time they are different, the 21st seems right the 28th should be called "Poison" The only thing I don't want happening is someone at Tribune thinking they are the same and merging the description or saying it's a repeat and I miss an ep.

[sjp]

further to the above House error... Hallmark are having a couple of multi episode per day "catch-up" weekends over the 23rd/24th and 30th/31st weekends.

the Saturday eps are not being picked up while the Sunday eps are. this weekend eps do not seem to fall within the bounds of the 28 day rule. the next new episode is on Sun 31st at 21:00. better to have too many recordings than too few I suppose.

more of a heads up than anything but it is interesting that the Sat eps are not being picked up by a working current SP while the Sun eps are.

[AMc]

I think that Fidelity (the next five showing of House) is a 2 parter as the Hallmark showing 2 episodes back to back with the same title.
We spent ages trying to fit Hallmark and five showings of House around Alias on Bravo and Absolute Power on BBC2.

FWIW Absolute Power appears to have been given a new series ID as an existing SP for Absolute Power on BBC2 is not showing any episodes but the listings entry for this week is SP able. There's also something weird that Tivo is showing a BBC4 1 hour episode for the same title as the 1/2 hour BBC2 showing AT THE SAME TIME. My Guardian TV Guide has totally different listings for BBC4 that evening.
I'm afraid I haven't the time or inclination to find out who has the right data.

[shanew]

Channel: ITV1 (103)
Postcode: tq7
Programme: The Guru
Date/Time: 20/7/2005 9pm & 11pm

This is showing as two separate programmes (split by the news) - anyone recording the 9pm programme will miss the concluding part later on if they don't manually set it to record!!

The same problem is going to occur with james bond on saturday:

Channel: ITV1 (103)
Postcode: tq7
Programme: You only live twice
Date/Time: 23/7/2005 4.50pm & 6.35pm

Shown as two separate programmes separated by news instead of one.

[cwaring]

Well that's different. They don't normally include the news-break like that! Not sure whether it's an improvement or not ;) :D

[groovyclam]

Carl - for God's sake stop posting crap little asides and other rubbish. How many times have you been told about this ?

This thread is for error reports only.

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: BBC3
Programme Name: My Penis and I
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Fri 22nd Jul 00:25, Sun 24th Jul 00:40, Thu 28th Jul 23:00, Fri 29th Jul 01:55
Problem type: Incorrect title

TiVo has this as "My P... and I". This is wrong (either a mistake or deliberate censorship, which would be worse). The correct title is "My Penis and I".


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Channel Callsign: FXUK
Programme Name: Penn & Teller: ********!
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Saturdays at 01:40
Problem type: Incorrect title

TiVo has this as "Penn & Teller: Bulls...!". This is wrong (either a mistake or deliberate censorship, which would be worse). The correct title is "Penn & Teller: ********!".


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Channel Callsign: BBC2
Programme Name: Newsnight
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Mon-Fri 22:30
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates

There should be one different Episode every day - in fact as a news programme which is never ever repeated, this should really be set to generic data.

The data currently has EP5790535007 being "repeated" 3 times (tommorrow, Wed, Thur) and EP5790535009 being "shown twice" on Mon/Tues. Newsnight has been wrong for a long time :(


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Channel Callsign:
Programme Name: The Daily Show: Global Edition
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Weekends, see below.
Problem type: 28-day rule not working/duplicates

Every showing is set to the same episode id, so unless you intervene you only get 1 recording per month instead of 1 every week.

Current data:


No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 CNNEU Sat 23rd Jul 00:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)
2 CNNEU Sat 23rd Jul 20:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)
3 CNNEU Sun 24th Jul 11:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)
4 CNNEU Sun 24th Jul 22:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)


5 CNNEU Sat 30th Jul 00:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)
6 CNNEU Sat 30th Jul 20:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)
7 CNNEU Sun 31st Jul 11:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)
8 CNNEU Sun 31st Jul 22:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)


9 CNNEU Sat 6th Aug 00:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)
10 CNNEU Sat 6th Aug 20:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)
11 CNNEU Sun 7th Aug 11:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)
12 CNNEU Sun 7th Aug 22:30 EP5302080149 True Sat 27th Nov 2004 No (no title)


5,6,7,8 should be a different TmsID.
9,10,11,12 should be different again.
This pattern repeats every week, and this has been wrong for months also :(


========================
Now a load of split SPs. In general, the one with the lowest TmsID is the correct one, as that was set up first and downloaded to us all first and will be present on more UK TiVo Season Pass Manager lists than the higher numbered TmsIDs.
========================

Channel Callsign: UKGLD, UKGLD1, UKG2, UKG2P1, BBC2
Programme Name: Room 101
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This is split over TmsIds SH326141 & SH874775.

SH326141 has 30 upcoming showings.
SH874775 has 2 upcoming showings, and is rogue.

(the ORIGINAL was SH501906 ...)

First reported on 20 Dec 2002.


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Channel Callsign: SKYONE, BBC2
Programme Name: Malcolm in the Middle
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This is split over TmsIds SH351374 & SH881235.

SH351374 has 20 upcoming showings and is the correct series.
SH881235 has 1 upcoming showing (SKYONE Sun 31st Jul 19:00) and is rogue. (It is also marked as a First Run which is wrong too.)


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Channel Callsign: BBC2, UKDOC, UKDOC1, UKHSTY, UKHSTY1
Programme Name: Horizon
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This is split over TmsIds SH545231 & SH195418

SH195418 has 22 upcoming showings
SH545231 has 2 upcoming showings
However there have been so many SPs for this series I've lost track of which one is correct. Please can you just pick one and stick to it!

First reported on 21 Nov 2002.


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Channel Callsign: BBC3
Programme Name: Doctor Who Confidential
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This is split over TmsIds SH878199 & SH861567

SH861567 has 1 upcoming showing (Sat 23rd Jul) and is the correct series.
SH878199 has 4 upcoming showings and is rogue.


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Channel Callsign: UKGLD, UKGLD1
Programme Name: Alistair McGowan's Big Impression
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This is split over TmsIds SH333281 & SH862571 & SH862572!

SH333281 has 12 upcoming showings and is the correct series.
The other two are rogues.


========================


Channel Callsign: MOTORS
Programme Name: Inside Grand Prix
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This has been SH648225 originally, and then it changed to SH859160, and at the moment is it on SH868600 (when Motors TV can be bothered to supply guide data to Tribune). I can't keep up!

Please can you confirm you won't change it again and it is safe to delete my Season Passes for SH648225 and SH859160?


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Channel Callsign: BBC2, BBC4
Programme Name: Absolute Power
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

My original SP (for the TV series, which this is) was SH620819. This is currently empty.

A new rogue series SH880967 has appeared containing 3 episodes. Everyone with a SP set up last year will have missed today's new series unless they noticed in time...


========================

Channel Callsign: ITV1CEN (and many ITV regions), ITV2
Programme Name: Airline (UK version)
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This is split over SH016767 (my blank SP) and SH000169 (new SP with 6 episodes on ITV2). Which is correct?

[sjp]

and to add to Mr Tickles Absolute Power notification... the data for this is sadly lacking, my Stephen Fry wishlist failed to find this. I knew i was on again as i'd noticed the trailers but it took the the upcoming new series thread to alert me.

I find it hard to believe that the BBC failed to supply cast members details with the rest of the prog info.

[AMc]

Channel Callsign: BBC4
Programme Name: Absolute Power
Date: 22nd July (in the past) 10-11pm
TeleWest Cable N16

This show was flagged as a 1 hour show but when I switched over at 10.30 (following the first episode on BBC2) the programme wasn't being shown. I had thought this might be the 1st and 2nd episodes back to back but this is clearly not the case so I suspect the programme was not shown on BBC4 at all.
It would be unusual for a comedy programme to be shown on BBC2/BBC4 in this way - normally shows are done Episode 1 on BBC2 followed by Episode 2 on BBC3.

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: UKBRID
Programme Name: House in France
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Mon-Fri 10:00 from Mon 1st Aug
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This is split over SH393289 (probably original SP, 1 upcoming episode) & SH405330 (7 episodes).

[etrigan]

Channel Callsign: FIVE & LIVING & LIVIN1
Programme Name: House

Sky M15

There are several episodes in the guide that are incorrectly titled - 'sports medicine' and 'poison' are used to refer to eps not called that. Only way of telling them apart from eps actually called that is that the descriptions are correct.

[Raisltin Majere]

Channel: TalkSport
Programme Name: Ian Collins/Mike Dickin
Date/Time: Daily 10am-1pm/10pm-1am

Problem: TiVo EPG transposes the two shows. It says Ian collins is on at 10pm and Mike Dicken is on at 10am. It's actually the other way round. Has been for at least 5 months.

That's both the time of the shows and the problem have existed for 5 months.

[shanew]

The following are split season passes (found by mrtickle's new gd checker module :up: ) - I'm guessing that the lower number in each case is the real tmsid

Channel: BBC2
PostCode: tq7
Programme: Extras
Time: Thursdays @ 21:00

TmsIds: SH880962 & SH881734



Channl: BBC1SW
PostCode: tq7
Programme: Animal Park
Time: Weekday mornings @ 09:15

TmsIds: SH521346 & SH205830

[nathan]

Multiple season passes for "New Al Qaeda":

Channel: BBC2 (London) on Freeview
Programme Name: New Al Qaeda
Episode: Jihad.com
Date/Time: Monday 25 July 2005, 2100

and then another season pass for:

Channel: BBC2 (London) on Freeview
Programme Name: New Al Qaeda
Episode: The Drug Dealer, The Estate Agent and The Telephone Man
Date/Time: Monday 1 August 2005, 2100

[mrtickle]

Channel Callsign: BBC2, UKDOC1
Programme Name: Science Shack
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): See below
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

This is split over SH225374 (5 upcoming episodes) & SH473045 (10 episodes).

SH225374:

No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 BBC2 Sat 30th Jul 05:00 EP2253740440 True Mon 5th Aug 2002 No (no title)
2 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 11:30 EP2253740432 True Sat 27th Jul 2002 No (no title)
3 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 12:30 EP2253745017 True Sat 18th Jun 2005 No (no title)
4 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 14:30 EP2253740432 True Sat 27th Jul 2002 No (no title)
5 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 15:30 EP2253745017 True Sat 18th Jun 2005 No (no title)


SH473045:

No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 10:00 EP4730450026 True Tue 13th Jul 2004 No "Walking on the Ceiling"
2 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 10:30 EP4730450022 True Mon 12th Apr 2004 No "When the Oil Runs Dry"
3 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 11:00 EP4730450027 True Thu 15th Jul 2004 No "Human Power"
4 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 12:00 EP4730450029 True Mon 19th Jul 2004 No "Paper Planes"
5 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 13:00 EP4730450026 True Tue 13th Jul 2004 No "Walking on the Ceiling"
6 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 13:30 EP4730450022 True Mon 12th Apr 2004 No "When the Oil Runs Dry"
7 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 14:00 EP4730450027 True Thu 15th Jul 2004 No "Human Power"
8 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 15:00 EP4730450029 True Mon 19th Jul 2004 No "Paper Planes"
9 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 18:00 EP4730450026 True Tue 13th Jul 2004 No "Walking on the Ceiling"
10 UKDOC1 Sat 13th Aug 18:30 EP4730450022 True Mon 12th Apr 2004 No "When the Oil Runs Dry"

[pmk]

1ig Brother (a 1 instead of B) should be Big Brother one episode either today / tomorrow on C4, E4 and E4+1. Bit wierd this one it only appears to be wrong in the Search By Title and similar when you view the episode it lists it correctly as Big Brother.

[cwaring]

Channel: Sky One
Prog: Stargate SG1
Episode: "Chimera" (S7E15)

This programme was shown yesterday at 1800 and 0000.

The episode description sounds like something from Yu-Gi-Oh or something. Whatever, it is, it's certainly not from any ep of SG1 I've ever seen, and I've seen them all :)

Not too much of a hurry as it won't be on again for a while, but it needs sorting :D

[cwaring]

Channel: five
Time/Date: 26/07/05 @ 2100
Prog. Name: CSI: Miami
Problem: Wrong OAD

My FROSP is picking up tonight's ep as someone has changed the OAD to today. I think this may be because someone has also changed the ep. title!

It should be "MIA/NYC - Nonstop" however, it is simply "Nonstop".

Still, better that it record an old one than miss a new one :D

[AENG]

SG17
Freeview
Channel 4 C4
Thursday 4 Aug 9.00 p.m.
The Cult of the Suicide Bomber

Problem: This 2-parter doesn't allow SP to be set.

[bradleyem]

Postcode E7
Channel Sky Sports 1-3+X, 401-404
Problem Again.
When Friday 12th August from 6pm
Programme Title Soccer AM's All Sports Show

Problem: Once again, (this is the third year I've highlighted this). TiVo wants to record every episode of this show.

Message to tribune: This show is on at the rate of ONE EPISODE PER WEEK, first showing Friday at 6pm. ALL other showings are REPEATS !!!

[bradleyem]

Postcode E7
Channel Sky Sports 1-3+X, 401-404
Programme Football League Review
Problem Again.
TiVo wants to record every episode of this show.

Actual schedule:

First showing of any episode is SUNDAY Evening - this week, it's 7/8@6pm
Any episode on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday is a REPEAT of the Sunday show.

A Second NEW episode is on THURSDAY -this week, 11/8 @ 7pm
Any episode on Thursday or Friday is a REPEAT of the THURSDAY Show.

[mrtickle]

1ig Brother (a 1 instead of B) should be Big Brother one episode either today / tomorrow on C4, E4 and E4+1. Bit wierd this one it only appears to be wrong in the Search By Title and similar when you view the episode it lists it correctly as Big Brother.

Good, glad it's not just me - I thought it was a disc error on my TiVo!

There is also an episode of Coronation Street called "doronation Street" (don't know which one any more sorry, I edited my guide data to fix it on my tivo).

This is quite worrying. Are Tribune sending out corrupted data?

[lcsneil]

1ig Brother - yes I noticed that as well!

Anyway bit short notice but wrong episode data.

Tue 26th July
BBC 4 (116 on Sky)
23:55-00:35 A Digital Picture of Britain


From Digiguide, Sky EPG AND the Radio Times (printed a couple of weeks in advance) the description is

5/6. The South East.
Images of landscapes near Gatwick Airport, digital collages of London and the strange beauty of Dungeness are captured by three eminent photographers.

but from Tivo

The North
Photographers Ian Berry, Dan Chung and Joe Cornish travel across northern England to capture the passion of grassroots football in Liverpool, the rise of new service industries in Sheffield, and a spectacular stretch of shoreline on the Yorkshire coast.


...... are we sure the guide data is compiled in the UK? :rolleyes:

Neil

[=CM=]

Prog: The Apprentice [US version]
Station: BBC3 Wed 21:00 first showing, repeat Sat 20:25 (also BBC2 Wed)

Prob: Wed 27 July entry is correct and recorded, next Wed is also filled in and correct. But the Sat repeat shows up in TiVo with a generic entry so it is also marked to be recorded when it should be discarded as a reshow of Wed's. Minor problem since the result is a double recording and nothing missed.

[mrtickle]

Science Shack, which I reported split into two SPs on Monday, has now been fixed (properly - merged into the original SP). Thanks very much!

Now, what about all the others... :)

An update:
Channel Callsign: SKYONE, BBC2
Programme Name: Malcolm in the Middle
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): See below
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme/Orphaned episodes

Last week's report:
>This is split over TmsIds SH351374 & SH881235.
>SH351374 has 20 upcoming showings and is the correct series.
>SH881235 has 1 upcoming showing (SKYONE Sun 31st Jul 19:00) and is rogue. (It is also marked as a First Run which is wrong too.)

Today, this is split over THREE TmsIDs. :(.
SH351374 (34 upcoming showings - correct series)
SH881235 has 1 upcoming showing, reported before, not fixed yet
SH859177 has 1 upcoming showing, a new error

SH351374:

No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 SKYONE Sat 30th Jul 17:00 EP3513740063 True Sun 28th Apr 2002 No "Clip Show"
2 SKYONE Sun 31st Jul 13:00 EP3513740063 True Sun 28th Apr 2002 No "Clip Show"
3 SKYONE Sun 31st Jul 19:30 EP3513740021 True Sun 19th Nov 2000 No "Casino"
4 BBC2 Sun 31st Jul 19:35 EP3513745033 True Wed 6th Apr 2005 No "Forwards Backwards"
5 SKYONE Sun 31st Jul 20:00 EP3513745075 True Sun 31st Jul 2005 Yes "Houseboat"
6 SKYONE Sun 31st Jul 20:30 EP3513745029 True Thu 31st Mar 2005 No "Zoo"
7 SKYMIX Mon 1st Aug 19:00 EP3513745071 True Sun 9th Jan 2000 No "Waterpark"
8 SKYMIX Mon 1st Aug 19:30 EP3513740021 True Sun 19th Nov 2000 No "Casino"
9 SKYONE Sat 6th Aug 09:00 EP3513745071 True Sun 9th Jan 2000 No "Waterpark"
10 SKYONE Sat 6th Aug 13:30 EP3513745075 True Sun 31st Jul 2005 Yes "Houseboat"
11 SKYONE Sat 6th Aug 17:00 EP3513745065 True Sat 6th Aug 2005 Yes "Reese's Party"
12 SKYONE Sun 7th Aug 09:00 EP3513740021 True Sun 19th Nov 2000 No "Casino"
13 SKYONE Sun 7th Aug 13:00 EP3513745065 True Sat 6th Aug 2005 Yes "Reese's Party"
14 SKYONE Sun 7th Aug 13:30 EP3513745029 True Thu 31st Mar 2005 No "Zoo"
15 SKYONE Sun 7th Aug 19:00 EP3513745031 True Fri 1st Apr 2005 No "Humilithon"
16 SKYONE Sun 7th Aug 20:00 EP3513745032 True Mon 4th Apr 2005 No "Family Reunion"
17 SKYONE Mon 8th Aug 11:00 EP3513745075 True Sun 31st Jul 2005 Yes "Houseboat"
18 SKYONE Tue 9th Aug 11:00 EP3513745076 True Tue 9th Aug 2005 Yes "Emancipation"
19 SKYONE Wed 10th Aug 11:00 EP3513745077 True Wed 10th Aug 2005 Yes "Book Club"
20 SKYONE Thu 11th Aug 11:00 EP3513740045 True Wed 28th Nov 2001 No "Malcolm's Girlfriend"
21 SKYONE Fri 12th Aug 11:00 EP3513745078 True Sun 9th Jan 2000 No "Charity"
22 SKYONE Sat 13th Aug 09:30 EP3513745075 True Sun 31st Jul 2005 Yes "Houseboat"
23 SKYONE Sat 13th Aug 11:30 EP3513745076 True Tue 9th Aug 2005 Yes "Emancipation"
24 SKYONE Sat 13th Aug 13:30 EP3513745077 True Wed 10th Aug 2005 Yes "Book Club"
25 SKYONE Sat 13th Aug 17:00 EP3513745066 True Sat 13th Aug 2005 Yes "Future Malcolm"
26 SKYMIX Sat 13th Aug 19:00 EP3513745031 True Fri 1st Apr 2005 No "Humilithon"
27 SKYMIX Sat 13th Aug 19:30 EP3513745032 True Mon 4th Apr 2005 No "Family Reunion"
28 SKYONE Sun 14th Aug 09:30 EP3513740045 True Wed 28th Nov 2001 No "Malcolm's Girlfriend"
29 SKYONE Sun 14th Aug 13:30 EP3513745078 True Sun 9th Jan 2000 No "Charity"
30 SKYONE Sun 14th Aug 14:00 EP3513745066 True Sat 13th Aug 2005 Yes "Future Malcolm"
31 SKYONE Sun 14th Aug 20:00 EP3513745033 True Wed 6th Apr 2005 No "Forwards Backwards"
32 SKYONE Mon 15th Aug 11:00 EP3513740048 True Sun 3rd Nov 2002 No "Health Scare"
33 SKYONE Tue 16th Aug 11:00 EP3513740047 True Sun 10th Nov 2002 No "Christmas" (1/2)
34 SKYONE Wed 17th Aug 11:00 EP3513745053 True Wed 17th Aug 2005 Yes "Poker"


SH881235:

No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 SKYONE Sun 31st Jul 19:00 EP8812355000 True Sun 31st Jul 2005 Yes "Waterpark"


SH859177:

No. Channel Date Time TmsId IsEp Oiginal Air Date 1stRun Episode title
1 SKYONE Sun 14th Aug 19:00 SH8591770000 False Tue 5th Apr 2005 No (n/a)


NB: NONE of the above should be/are "First Runs" for any episode on any channel at the moment. The OADs have been replaced, why?

[cwaring]

Don't know why or when it happened, but tonights BBC1 episodes of "24" are now due to start at 23:20 (11:20pm), a full THIRTY MINUTES earlier than listed in the Tivo EPG!!

Start: 23:20
End: 0130 (by BBC schedule; DG has it @ 0135 :))

Edit: Just done a daily call and the start time has not changed. Nice one, Tribune :(

[ericd121]

Channel BBC2
Programme Top of the Pops
Date/Time Sunday 31st July 7:00pm
Problem Broken Season Pass

This wasn't picked up by my SP...

[tartan_haggis]

Postcode: PE29
Channel: Sky One
Time/Date: 30/07/05 @ 1900-1930 and 1930-2000
Prog. Name: Father of the Pride
Problem: Brainiac Science Abuse broadcast instead - which was scheduled in the guide for 2000-2100

According to sky.com schedule, Father of the Pride should have been broadcast at 2000-2030 and 2030-2100, but was actually Kirsty's Home Videos 2000-2100??!

[aerialplug]

Package: Sky Digital
Channel: Channel 4
Programme: House of Obsessive Compulsives

No season pass can be booked for this series. It appears twice in the search for this reason. Until a season pass is allocated, you have to book each programme separately.

[Edit: I see there are only 2 episodes in this series - I can understand why it hasn't been alocated a season pass - but it would have made booking a recording easier if it had]

[BaggieBoy]

Channel BBC2
Programme Extras
Date/Time Thursday 4th August
Problem Broken Season Pass

Season pass (which was fine for episode 1 & 2) is not seeing episode 3; I had to manually set a recording. It sees episode 4 however!

[tartan_haggis]

Postcode: PE29
Channel: Sky One
Time/Date: Saturdays 20.00 and 20.30
Prog. Name: Father of the Pride
Problem: Season Pass says "No Upcoming Episodes" but if you search on the programme title, you can see that there are 4 upcoming episodes scheduled.

Episode Num Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time
Catnip and Trust Sun 20th Mar 2005 SKYONE Sat 6th Aug 20:00
Possession Sun 10th Apr 2005 SKYONE Sat 6th Aug 20:30
Rehabilitation Sun 24th Apr 2005 SKYONE Sat 13th Aug 20:00
The Thanksgiving Episode Sun 1st May 2005 SKYONE Sat 13th Aug 20:30

I deleted the season pass and set it up again, but same problem.

[OzSat]

Postcode: PE29
Channel: Sky One
Time/Date: Saturdays 20.00 and 20.30
Prog. Name: Father of the Pride
Problem: Season Pass says "No Upcoming Episodes" but if you search on the programme title, you can see that there are 4 upcoming episodes scheduled.

Episode Num Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time
Catnip and Trust Sun 20th Mar 2005 SKYONE Sat 6th Aug 20:00
Possession Sun 10th Apr 2005 SKYONE Sat 6th Aug 20:30
Rehabilitation Sun 24th Apr 2005 SKYONE Sat 13th Aug 20:00
The Thanksgiving Episode Sun 1st May 2005 SKYONE Sat 13th Aug 20:30

I deleted the season pass and set it up again, but same problem.I'm not seeing a problem here - SP setting OK.

[cwaring]

Just to second Ozsat. I can set an SP fine as well :)

[sjp]

thanks to http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3110239#post3110239 I now know that Lost starts next Wednesday.

Wondering why my 3 keyword wishlists (seperate WLs for Lost Pilot and Lost Abrams and Lost Naveem - reason being that a straight title WL for Lost came back with 42 hits) I was not really that surprised to find the data does NOT contain...

Episode Titles, Cast names or Directors name and that Tribune seem to think that at least 1 of the first 3 epsiodes is in the Game Show and Reality genres. The DigiGuide episode data must contain 10 times as much info as we've been provided with.

Par for the course I suppose but it's not as if this is a little show on a little channel.

edited to add... and yes I've just spent the best part of 5 shillings reporting it to that lot in Fife.

[sanderton]

My data is showing the first two episodes as unknown title parts one and two and the third ep as "Tabula Rasa". As far as I can see a see a normal SP would work perfectly for Lost, so I'm not clear what the error was worth reporting?

However the OAD for Tabula Rasa is wrong. There is no reason to set a FRO season pass for new show, but if you did it would not record the third ep.

[sjp]

given that this is a US show for which Tribune must have decent data, possibly not in Holland but somewhere in the world, I'd hope that we'd get a little more than the bare bones info we seem to have...

compare digiguides offering of...

DRAMA: Lost
Channel: Channel 4 104
Date: Wednesday 10th August 2005
Time: 20:30 to 21:30 (starting in 6 days)
Duration: 1 hour.
Pilot (Part 1 of 2). Series 1, episode 1.
Action-packed US adventure smash hit Lost comes to Channel 4. A man awakes in a jungle, bruised, bloody and lost. He forces himself up and winces in pain, leaning against a tree. Recognition of where he is begins to float across his face. He winces with the pain and begins to run through the trees to a beautiful beach. Jack is one of 48 survivors of a mid-Pacific plane crash. They have landed on an island of harsh terrain, cruel weather and dark secrets, including a frightful creature that stalks the jungle. Strangers all, the survivors' pasts - their ethics, religions, politics and attitudes - threaten to jeopardize the group's ability to endure. But thanks to Jack's calm leadership and quick-thinking, and level-headed Kate, they have a chance of survival and rescue. There's more high-octane adventure after Big Brother.
Starring: Matthew Fox, Evangeline Lilly
(Subtitles, Audio Described, PG, 5 Star)

Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.digiguide.com. Copyright ©1999-2004 GipsyMedia Ltd. Information copied from DigiGuide cannot be re-distributed, sold or used without prior written consent from GipsyMedia Ltd. All rights reserved.

with the line and a half that is currently on my tivo and convince me that what we have isn't worth complaining about. I don't think I've seen so little data (extended or otherwise) for such a well promoted show.

conversation over

[Andy Leitch]

Programme - You And Yours
Channel - BBCR4FM Ch854
Provider - Sky Digital
Time - Daily weekdays @12pm

Broken SP...progamme won't be recorded due to the 28 day rule.....but it's a DAILY programme!!

But I have dozens of other programmes, which DO break the 28 day rule....but are never fixed!!

Who is the clown at Tribune who thinks it's a good idea to mess with perfectly good, working guide data? :confused:

[spid3r]

Ricky Gervais' Extras did not record for me tonight, despite being at number 1 in the Season Pass list. I only noticed this ****-up at around 9:25 as I could see the red light was not on. I looked at the Live TV Guide and it was showing as the Catherine Tate Show. I'm foaming at the mouth as I type this. There's so little TV I actually care about (my girlfriend mostly uses our TiVo). Did others have this problem?

[mrtickle]

Yes, reported in this thread by shanew on Mon 25th July. (link (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3081994&&#post3081994)). It wasn't fixed :-(

There are a couple of things you can do for the future, assuming Season Passes continue to be split like twigs:
1) Subscribe to this thread so that you get emailed whenever someone reports an error, then check the errors against your own To Do list
2) Use my Guide Data Checker module in TiVoweb to check your own Season Pass list every day

I know this doesn't solve the problem but it is a way of dealing with the symptoms. If everyone with tivoweb did this then we'd be able to alert each other of errors and cover most of the popular programmes.

[Mr 999]

Yes, reported in this thread by shanew on Mon 25th July.

Extras has been in three different season passes so far; a record shared with the other excellent BBC2 show Coast (which is in three season passes as we speak). How can they let this sort of data get out?

[sanderton]

No, Extras is 9pm-9.30pm on my machine. Check your call status.


20:00 Bank of Mum and Dad UNKNOWN
21:00 Extras UNKNOWN
21:30 The Catherine Tate Show UNKNOWN

[Mr 999]

The problem is that Tribune are putting episodes of certain shows into different series IDs; There's been three series IDs for extras so far, and it looks like spid3r didn't have all three set up. Tivo knew Extras was scheduled for 9pm, but the live tv guide that spid3r looked at at 9.25 would automatically show Catherine Tate, as that was on in less than five minutes time.

[sanderton]

Of course, sorry.

[Adlopa]

Same problem, same set-up here. No forthcoming episodes listed either. Setting up a new season pass picks it up fine. I now have two Extras BBC2 season passes in my list, though...

Might I suggest www.isohunt.com for missed the missed episode..?

[mrtickle]

The problem is that Tribune are putting episodes of certain shows into different series IDs; There's been three series IDs for extras so far, and it looks like spid3r didn't have all three set up. Tivo knew Extras was scheduled for 9pm, but the live tv guide that spid3r looked at at 9.25 would automatically show Catherine Tate, as that was on in less than five minutes time.

That's the only part that confused me - I would have thought that if you looked at the live tv guide at 9.25 it would still show "Extras" (the orphaned episode that didn't get recorded) with CT following it.

I have not seen a 3rd SP for Extras on my TiVo, only 2. The original was TmsID SH880962. Between the 21st and 25th July, SH881734 appeared for episode 4th August only. Then the data for next week was added, back on the original SH880962. Checking now, 4th/11th/18th August all say they are in the series SH881734 - so we may as well infer that nothing more will be added to the original SP now.

Apologies for extending the discussion here, best get back to just reports in this thread. We know something is wrong with Tribune's processes and it's been happening ever since the Amsterdam office opened. There's, nothing we can do about it, just report as much here as possible for each other and subscribe to this thread for email updates.

[sanderton]

Programme: Super League Rugby
Channel: Sky Sports 1/2/3/Extra

This Season Pass is including games that not only are not part of the Super League competition, but are actually an entirely different sport and in one case on the wrong continent!

The showings entitled "North Harbour vs Aukland" and "Middlesex 7s" are rugby union, not rugby league and certainly not part of the Super League.

[leejordan]

Programme - Coast
Channel - BBC1
Provider - NTL
Postcode - KT8
Time - Friday & Sunday 9pm

3 Different series IDs!

Lee.

[juphill]

Channel: E4 on NTL
Programme: Without a Trace
Date/Time: 21:00 on Tuesday 16th August
Problem: FROSP not picking up the new series

New series started today which I had to manually setup to record. Future episodes are also not getting picked up.

[ericd121]

Channel ITV1
Programme Bad Lads' Army Officer Class
Date/Time Thursday 18th Aug 9:00pm
Problem Broken Season Pass ??

Not in the To Do List,
Recording History says This prog no longer in program guide.
but the Season Pass/Upcoming Episodes shows a double tick next to the next two episodes after this. :confused:

[aerialplug]

Channel: Discovery Channel
Programme: Comet Impact
When: 18:00, 13th August

Discovery Channel have been heavily promoting this programme for over a week now yet the TiVo listings still show Battlefield Detectives in this slot. Since it's a key programme for the channel, surely the listings should have been updated by now?

[=CM=]

Prog: Lost
On: C4 & E4
When: Wed 220:00/22:55

Categories are Drama, Game Show and Reality. Drama is good but the other 2 are just plain odd and wrong. Now my Tivo thinks I'm into game shows and reality tv :-(

[aerialplug]

Prog: Lost
On: C4 & E4
When: Wed 220:00/22:55

Categories are Drama, Game Show and Reality. Drama is good but the other 2 are just plain odd and wrong. Now my Tivo thinks I'm into game shows and reality tv :-(

They're confusing it with another series called Lost on Adventure One which is a reality show where they drop a bunch of Americans somewhere remote in the world and they have to find their way home. They only ever did 2 - it bombed.

Channel 4 used the format a few years ago - I think the C4 show was also entitled lost.

[mrtickle]

URGENT! All guide data for Motors TV runs out the day after tomorrow (Saturday 13th Aug).


Anyone with Season Passes on this channel needs to set up manual recordings for next week just in case.

[OzSat]

URGENT! All guide data for Motors TV runs out the day after tomorrow (Saturday 13th Aug).


Anyone with Season Passes on this channel needs to set up manual recordings for next week just in case.OK now!

[ndunlavey]

Channel BBCWS (Freeview 80)
Programme Masterpiece - second Don Quixote programme
Date/Time Thu 23 Aug 9.05/13.05/7.05, Thu 24 Aug 1.05
Problem Incorrectly flagged as same content as previous week

Masterpiece is a weekly programme. W/c 16/8 and 23/8 is an unusual double-header, with a programme about Don Quixote being split into two installments.
They have identicial content in the guide, and a season pass picks up only one of them as a distinct episode.

[pmk]

"Balls of Steel" is appearing as "B... of Steel"
Channel 4
22:30

Will someone please switch off this stupid censor on the guide data! It is advertised on TV as "Balls Of Steel" it is in my paper based TV guide as "Balls of Steel" why the hell is it "B... of Steel" on my TiVo?

This would have meant my Title Wish List would have missed this programme if I had not noticed. Stop spending time messing about with the titles of programmes and concentrate on getting the actual data correct so for example duplicates are not recorded etc!

[Andy Leitch]

This censorship of programme titles was has now crept in is just underlines the crass stupidity of the people in charge of the listings. :down:

I have complained before about it, but my complaints have apparently went unheeded.

Thankfully, when Sky launch the HD service in a few months time....I'll be rid of Tribune for good. :up:

Anyway.....

Programme : Carnage
Channel : M&M
Channel Number : Sky 136
Time : Most Weekdays @ 5:00pm

The episode guide data is from the previous series, when it had presenters.

Now it is just a collection of clips....such as the Gumball Rally, street-racing and drifters from Japan.

Interestingly, Digiguide has it listed as Gumball 2003.....which is also wrong. :eek:

[cwaring]

Platform: Telewest Digital
Postcode: WF1
Problem: There is a gap in my listings for five on Wednesday 24th August. Days either side are fine, but nothing on that actual day.

To clarify...

The final listing before the gap is:
Title: "Euro Seniors Golf"
Time: 12:45am
Date: Wednesday 24th August
Duration: 50mins

Then, from 4am in four-hour blocks is generic "five" until:
Title: "Football"
Time: 05:00am
Date: Thursday 25th August
Duration: 60mins

Sorry, Oz. I thought it as you typed it ;)

[OzSat]

Platform: Telewest Digital
Postcode: WF1
Problem: There is a gap in my listings for five on Wednesday 24th August. Days either side are fine, but nothing on that actual day.

Can you provide details of the two programmes either side of the missing data?

My FIVE looks fine at first glance - and I set a record on for the football at 7.15pm a few days ago.

[OzSat]

Platform: Telewest Digital
Postcode: WF1
Problem: There is a gap in my listings for five on Wednesday 24th August. Days either side are fine, but nothing on that actual day.

To clarify...

The final listing before the gap is:
Title: "Euro Seniors Golf"
Time: 12:45am
Date: Wednesday 24th August
Duration: 50mins

Then, from 4am in four-hour blocks is generic "five" until:
Title: "Football"
Time: 05:00am
Date: Thursday 25th August
Duration: 60mins

Sorry, Oz. I thought it as you typed it ;)I have V8 Supercars at 1.35am on Wednesday 24th Aug.

It seems to be a problem between your TiVo and TiVo - listings are fine.

[kitschcamp]

"Balls of Steel" is appearing as "B... of Steel"
Channel 4
22:30

Will someone please switch off this stupid censor on the guide data! It is advertised on TV as "Balls Of Steel" it is in my paper based TV guide as "Balls of Steel" why the hell is it "B... of Steel" on my TiVo?


It's also a split season pass... The showings on the 19th and 26th August are on different season passes as of 9am this morning.

[Andy Leitch]

Programme : You and Yours
Channel Name : BBCR4FM
Channel : Sky 854
Time : Weekdays @ 12:00pm

Broken SP

Programmes failing to be recorded and no mention whatsoever in Recording History, as to why.

[browellm]

Programme: On the Hour
Channel Name: BBCR7
Platform: Freeview
Time: Tuesdays 11pm, repeated Wednesday 4am

Tivo SP is recording both episodes.

[cwaring]

It seems to be a problem between your TiVo and TiVo - listings are fine.
Well, I've just noticed that I have the same "problem" this Friday; ie no data for five.

Some others have the same problem; as noted in the uk.tv.media.misc newsgroup.

Also noted in there is that re-running GS does not fix it. I'll still give it a go, though :)

[OzSat]

Well, I've just noticed that I have the same "problem" this Friday; ie no data for five.

Some others have the same problem; as noted in the uk.tv.media.misc newsgroup.

Also noted in there is that re-running GS does not fix it. I'll still give it a go, though :)
Can you provide the "either side" programmes again?

[cwaring]

Sure thing!

Last programme before gap:
Title: Dutch Football
Date: Friday 19th August 2005
Time: 00:50

First programme after gap:
Title: Russell Grant's Postcards
Date: Saturday 20th August 2005
Time: 04:20

Platform: Telewest
Postcode: WF1

[OzSat]

Sure thing!

Last programme before gap:
Title: Dutch Football
Date: Friday 19th August 2005
Time: 00:50

First programme after gap:
Title: Russell Grant's Postcards
Date: Saturday 20th August 2005
Time: 04:20

Platform: Telewest
Postcode: WF1Again, both my TiVo are complete.

[LJ]

Sky: DTrav
Program: Style World
Problem: Two SPs for the same series.

As far as I can tell the 4am showings (which are in the 2nd SP and all have generic data at the moment) are the same episode as the previous day.

P.S. Thanks for fixing the naming of "Balls of Steel".

[GarySargent]

P.S. Thanks for fixing the naming of "Balls of Steel".

If there are other programmes that have been inappropriately censored then please report them.

[steveroe]

Platform: Sky
Channels: 106 Sky One and 107 Sky Mix
Programme: Brainiac: Science Abuse
Problem: New series starts next Thursday at 8 pm. All showings of this programme seem to have generic data so I can't tell what's new and what's a repeat. TiVo wants to record them all.

[cashew1970]

SKY
All BBC1 (101)
Programme: Messiah
Problem: 3 part series on next weekend. Part 1 is on 1 SP and part 2 and 3 are on another

[mrtickle]

If there are other programmes that have been inappropriately censored then please report them.

I'm still waiting for this to be fixed (reported 21st July):

Channel Callsign: FXUK
Programme Name: Penn & Teller: ********!
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Saturdays at 01:40
Problem type: Incorrect title

TiVo has this as "Penn & Teller: Bulls...!". This is wrong (either a mistake or deliberate censorship, which would be worse). The correct title is "Penn & Teller: ********!".

Also, it's not in the guide data yet but I'd like to put in a pre-emtive report for this one:

Channel Callsign: BBC3
Programme Name: Who The f*** is Pete Doherty?
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Sun 28th Aug 2005 22:00
Problem type: Incorrect title

Correct title is "Who The **** Is Pete Doherty". BBC3 is a channel aimed at adults and censorship of the title is not appropriate here.
[edit: I can't enter the title in this forum either :rolleyes: . However I expect you can guess which F-word it is :) ]

Ta.

[OzSat]

Also, it's not in the guide data yet but I'd like to put in a pre-emtive report for this one:

Channel Callsign: BBC3
Programme Name: Who The f*** is Pete Doherty?
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Sun 28th Aug 2005 22:00
Problem type: Incorrect title

Correct title is "Who The **** Is Pete Doherty". BBC3 is a channel aimed at adults and censorship of the title is not appropriate here.
[edit: I can't enter the title in this forum either :rolleyes: . However I expect you can guess which F-word it is :) ]

Ta.The listings from the BBC say F***

[mrtickle]

I expect they are applying the same censorship, as will the Radio Times, Digiguide, and the Sky EPG, and I'm swimming against the tide on that programme - I wanted to mention it though.

However "Penn & Teller: ********!" is definitely called that, the continuity announcer speaks the title on-air, it's in the title sequence, etc. If we can win that one it'll be good!

[sanderton]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/pete_doherty.shtml

[iankb]

However "Penn & Teller: ********!" is definitely called that, the continuity announcer speaks the title on-air, it's in the title sequence, etc. If we can win that one it'll be good!For some reason, like public nudity and public sex, anything to do with animals is far more acceptable than the same thing in relation to humans. :p

[mrtickle]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/pete_doherty.shtml

http://www.filter-mag.com/news/interior.2537.html
http://www.advalvas.be/fr/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=2049&Itemid=
http://www.music-news.com/ShowNews.asp?nItemID=7224

[Andy Leitch]

Programme : Scunnered
Channel : BBC1Scotland
Channel Number : Sky 101
Time : 22ng August 10:35pm

Wrong Programme Name

The correct name is Scunnered which is part of the BBC Voices season, TiVo has it listed as Voices and Scunnered is in the episode description.


Digiguide also has it wrong....possibly because of the way they are both implementing the BBC Voices season.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/listings/programme.shtml?day=monday&service_id=4220&filename=20050822/20050822_2235_4220_12167_35

Edit: On second thoughts, maybe TiVo is right.

If, for example, there was a season of programmes on the works of George Lucas.

The programme would perhaps be called 'The works of George Lucas', with the subject, say THX1138, in the episode description.

Or should it be 'THX1138' as the title and have 'Part of the Works of George Lucas Season' in the description. :confused: :confused:

Anyway, BBC have trailed it on air as Scunnered...so I'll go with that I suppose.

[sanderton]

Programme: Horizon
Channels: UKHSTY, UKHSTY1, UKTVDOC, UKDOC1 (and BBC2, BBC4)

Programmes are split into two SPs, TmsIds SH545231 & SH195418. This is one series.

[TiVoDataGuy]

Just wanted to give you all a couple updates:

* Holes in the data have been filled in. See here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3165073#post3165073) for more details
* We've seen your complaints and are looking into the censorship issue. FYI, we've got the Penn & Teller program title censored here in the US, as well. That one's going to be a hard sell to get changed (IMO)
* We're working with our data provider to resolve the season pass issues

Sorry I don't have more for you at this time.


Cheers,
Marcel

[Andy Leitch]

Programme : Classic Albums
Channel Name : The Biography Channel
Channel Number: Sky 229
Time : Friday 26th Aug @ 10:00pm

This programme is about the Never Mind The Bollocks album by The Sex Pistols, but only The Sex Pistols is mentioned in the episode description....the album title is missing. I wonder why?? :rolleyes: So a Keyword Wishlist for Bollocks would not catch this programme.

MUSIC: Classic Albums
Channel: Biography Channel 229
Date: Friday 26th August 2005
Time: 22:00 to 23:00 (starting in 5 days)
Duration: 1 hour.
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks.
These boys weren't pretty but they weren't vacant either, as John Lydon, Steve Jones and Malcolm McLaren explain.

Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide

http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/new_site/biography.php?id=1363&showgroup=1553

[bradleyem]

of course, one could ask who would have a wishlist for bollocks??

Anway, so this is not a discussion,

Format: sky
Channel: Sky Sports
Program: The best of Soccer AM
Time: Various

It's recording each showing of this episode. There is only one episode per week. The rest are all repeats!

[Andy Leitch]

Maybe I wish to record this.....http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0208739/

What I have as a wishlist is absolutely none of your business.

The issue here is the censorship of guide data which has crept in by the backdoor.
What if I had a wishlist for bastard?

Due to the censorship it would not record.....

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0115633/

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0440484/

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0391461/

As to not turn this into a discussoin......


Programme : Cybil
Channel Name : Paramount
Channel Number : Sky 127
Time : Various

Has a date of 2005, which is wrong.

[bradleyem]

hey, wasn't having a go, just commenting on the fact it'd an odd one to have!

[gadgetguy]

Channel:ITV Scotland
Channel Number - 103
Programme:Scotsport SPL
Time 2300 - 0015 Mondays

This Mondays programme is wrongly called Scotsport First!

[browellm]

Channel: FIVE (Freeview)
Programme: Ultimatepoker.com showdown
Time: 00:05 Sunday 21st August, 9 weekly shows in total

TiVo thinks the following week's episodes are repeats. Please amend.

[Karnak]

I seem to have all the guide data missing for ITV1 and Channel 5 from 4am this morning to 4am tomorrow morning :/

[AENG]

Karnak - you don't say where you are or who provides your service but there's no problem on Freeview in SG17.

[cwaring]

No probs with Telewest Digital either :)

[Karnak]

I'm just on standard terrestrial in NE6 but I've spoken to Tivo Data Guy about it and it seems it's likely my tivo having a little fit as noone else is having a problem :/

[cwaring]

Well, a few of us did have this problem (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=254886) but it was solved a while ago :)

Whoops! Sorry. Forgot which thread this was. I'll shut up now before the non-Mods start having another go!

[Andy Leitch]

Programme - You And Yours
Channel - BBCR4FM Ch854
Provider - Sky Digital
Time - Daily weekdays @12pm

Broken SP...progamme won't be recorded due to the 28 day rule.....but it's a DAILY programme!!


This SP is broken...again!!

Also I have only 7 days of data for ITV2...but have 14 days for ITV1.

DigiGuide has ITV2 data until 1st October!!

:confused:

EDIT: Checking my TDL...it seems the You And Yours SP is only broken for next week..the programmes from 29/8 to 2/9 will NOT be recorded due to the 28 day rule....BUT the programmes for the following week WILL be recorded. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Tribune....stop mucking about with the guide data...this is the third time in three weeks that this SP has broken. :down:

[LJ]

SkyD, postcode RH10.

853: BBCR3
Sat 27th Aug 14:00
Discovering Music: TiVo has data from 2nd July. Correct data is here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/discoveringmusic/pip/jn1ve/).

507: BBC24
Sun 28th Aug 04:30 etc
Click Online: TiVo has generic data. From the bottom of this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/4187818.stm) page:
Click Online is broadcast on BBC News 24: Saturday at 2030, Sunday at 0430 and 1630, and on Monday at 0030. A short version is also shown on BBC Two: Saturday at 0645 and BBC One: Sunday at 0730

115: BBC3
Fri 2nd Sep 02:50
Bionic Buildings: TiVo has generic data. Correct data is here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tvlistings/programme.shtml?day=thursday&filename=20050901/20050902_0250_4288_16476_60).

[LJ]

SkyD, postcode RH10.

555 DISSCI
Sun 28th Aug 09:00 - 21:00
TiVo has showings every half hour of "How It's Made". The schedule here (http://discoveryscience.co.uk/_listings/) is completely different!

Maybe DISSCI postponed a "How It's Made" season, because Monday does have "How It's Made" on for most of the day! About a third of the episodes on TiVo are showing generic data, whereas the Discovery website seems to have all the details.

[Andy Leitch]

Programme: Brandeth Rules: Party Conferences
Channel : BBCR4FM
Channel Number : Sky 854
Time : Wed 7/9 8:45pm

This three-part series is not SP-able.

POLITICAL: The Brandreth Rules: Party Conferences
Channel: BBC Radio Four 854
Date: Wednesday 7th September 2005
Time: 20:45 to 21:00 (starting in 9 days)
Duration: 15 minutes.
Conquering: Second of three programmes in which former MP Gyles Brandreth explains the rules for successfully negotiating the Party Conference season.
(Repeat)

Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide


Programme : Place Your Bets
Channel : BBCR4FM
Channel Number : Sky 854
Time : 10/9 4:06am

This four-part series is not SP-able.

Programme : Hell's Kitchen USA
Channel : ITV2
Channel Number : Sky 118
Time : 5/9 9:00pm

Wrong programme title, Tivo has it listed as Hell's Kitchen, that would it make it the UK version......this is the USA version.

http://www.itv.com/listings/Programme.aspx?itvregion=london&itvpackage=ds&itvgenre=4&prognum=76465&episode=764145&scheduleid=3175208&channeldate=05/09/2005&channelid=ITV2

[xxxx]

Just wondering if I'm the only person who has no EPG data for Channel Five on Sky Digital from midnight tonight (Tuesday) until midnight tomorrow? I can't see any mention of it anywhere.

IIRC the same happened a week or so ago.

[LJ]

Channel 5 looks fine here in RH10.

[cwaring]

No problems in WF1 :) IIRC it was something to do with new server hiccups.

[xxxx]

Looks like I better move house before midnight then. :down:

[mrtickle]

Just wondering if I'm the only person who has no EPG data for Channel Five on Sky Digital from midnight tonight (Tuesday) until midnight tomorrow? I can't see any mention of it anywhere.


I don't have any problem either I'm afraid. Do you have placeholder data for that day, (ie series "Five" on at 04:00, 08:00, 12:00, 16:00 and 20:00) or is there a complete gap that jumps a day?

[xxxx]

I have:

04:00 Five No Episode Title
08:00 Five No Episode Title
12:00 Five No Episode Title
16:00 Five No Episode Title
20:00 Five No Episode Title

My updates function perfectly over broadband and I had a service message (about ABC1 IIRC) just yesterday.

[mrtickle]

Hope it fixed itself.

A new, and exemplary, Split Season pass has appeared on Radio 4:

Channel Callsign: BBCR4FM
Programme Name: The Armando Iannucci Charm Offensive
Date/Time (shown on TiVo): Thu 15th Sep 23:00, Thu 8th Sep 23:00

TmsIds SH875607 & SH875608 - come on! :mad:

[mccg]

Programme: Wonderfalls
Channel : SkyOne
Time : Thu 1/9 00:00 - 01:00

More of a head-up really.

Possibly not actually a TiVo error... I suspect Sky's schedule changed at the last minute for hurricane related stuff...
I went to watch my recording, and it was something about the 80s.

It is on again tonight (2/9) at 20:00 on Sky Mix.

HTH,
Mike

[DuncanCorps]

Callsign: UKGLD / UKGLD1
Programme Name: Doctor Who / Doctor Who Omnibus
Date/Time: Weekend mornings
Problem:

The guide data for these showings on UKTV Gold regularly swaps between using Doctor Who's ID and Doctor Who Omnibus's ID. The difference is that Doctor Who Omnibus, shown in the mornings on UKTV Gold and UKTV Gold+1, is made up of several individual episodes edited together. It's distinctly different from a series made up of individual episodes and shouldn't be using its ID. This was merely very annoying, but now that Doctor Who is being shown as individual episodes again (and 2005's season is coming soon to UKTV Gold) it's important that the two series are not confused.

As an example, the following (copied and pasted from TiVoWeb) are down as Doctor Who, but should be Doctor Who Omnibus because they're not individual episodes;

Battlefield - UKGLD Sun 11th Sep 07:00
Battlefield - UKGLD1 Sun 11th Sep 08:00
Ghost Light - UKGLD Sat 17th Sep 07:00
Ghost Light - UKGLD1 Sat 17th Sep 08:00
The Curse of Fenric - UKGLD Sun 18th Sep 07:00
The Curse of Fenric - UKGLD1 Sun 18th Sep 08:00

And while I'm at it, Batman (starring Kevin Conroy - http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0103359 ) and The Batman (starring Rino Romano - http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0398417 ) are two different programmes which share a number of concepts but are otherwise not connected (even the titles are different). One is a "re imagining" of the other, much like Battlestar: Galactica (which I believe has separate IDs for the original series, the TV movie, the mini series and the new series despite sharing an identical title).

As an aside, I see many posts with glamourous, exciting and useful-looking TMSIDs in them (ep###, sh### and so forth). Are these useful for Tribune? And if so, how would get them via TiVoWeb 1.9.4 without installing the guide data checker? I can easily see the ID TiVoWeb provides (e.g. 10708 for Doctor Who and 286502 for Doctor Who Omnibus) but I don't see how, or even if, these map to the TMSID. Googling and searching hasn't helped me yet...

[OzSat]

Callsign: UKGLD / UKGLD1
Programme Name: Doctor Who / Doctor Who Omnibus
Date/Time: Weekend mornings
Problem:

The guide data for these showings on UKTV Gold regularly swaps between using Doctor Who's ID and Doctor Who Omnibus's ID. The difference is that Doctor Who Omnibus, shown in the mornings on UKTV Gold and UKTV Gold+1, is made up of several individual episodes edited together. It's distinctly different from a series made up of individual episodes and shouldn't be using its ID. This was merely very annoying, but now that Doctor Who is being shown as individual episodes again (and 2005's season is coming soon to UKTV Gold) it's important that the two series are not confused.The problem is with automated systems - and the fact that it is UKTV who keep switching the titles of this programme.

[mrtickle]

As an aside, I see many posts with glamourous, exciting and useful-looking TMSIDs in them (ep###, sh### and so forth). Are these useful for Tribune?

I trust they are (TMS=Tribune Media Services) but haven't actually heard either way :). Those IDs are the only ones common across all our TiVos and the servers at their end. The series IDs you post below are created by your own TiVo when it downloads data and won't be the same on anyone else's unless by fluke.


And if so, how would get them via TiVoWeb 1.9.4 without installing the guide data checker? I can easily see the ID TiVoWeb provides (e.g. 10708 for Doctor Who and 286502 for Doctor Who Omnibus) but I don't see how, or even if, these map to the TMSID. Googling and searching hasn't helped me yet...

I modified the UI module on my setup to display them for Episodes (GD checker only displays the Series parts - in a TMSID, the first 6 digits are the series no. The remaining 4 digits are the episode number). I posted it recently (*here - if you do use it and have any problems, please add to that thread).

Alternatively in TiVoWeb replace /showing/ in the URL with /object/ and then follow the "program" link.

Without using TiVoWeb you can always go to the programme description screen of any episode in the main TiVo user interface, press Enter to see all the meta-data, and the TmsID is included there.

[LJ]

SkyD, RH10

The Sky at Night:
TiVo has these four showings with the same TmsId:
BBC4 Sun 4th Sep 19:00 30 mins
BBC1 Mon 5th Sep 00:40 25 mins
BBC4 Tue 6th Sep 00:25 30 mins
BBC2 Sat 10th Sep 11:10 10 mins

The Beeb says (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/spaceguide/skyatnight/proginfo.shtml) 'Broadcast on BBC1, repeated on BBC2, with an extended repeat on BBC4' - so surely the two BBC4 showing should have a different TmsId as they are a different programme?

Also the BBC1 and BBC2 showings are listed as 20 minutes: details here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/advance_search.cgi?keyword=sky+at+night).

[sjp]

the new season of Hex on Sky One seems to, already, have a fractured SP. Episode 1, without an episode title, is all my new SP is picking up. OK if you're aware but somewhat damaging if folks are expecting last years SP to work properly.

[cwaring]

All is okay here. Three eps currently in SP and no double-entry in the "Pick Progs. to record" list. Curiously though, the second episode is titled "Hex 202" but "202" refers to the episode title as it appears there also :confused:

[sjp]

Last dialin 6:10 this morning so possible correction overnight (?)

Only 2 eps in my data, Hex at the top of my SP list so no conflict but deleting the SP and recreating did pick up both eps that I currently have.

[=CM=]

BBC2 22:00 Sundays all platforms
Prog: Dead Ringers

First shown is set to the date of this showing - so 4 Sept for the last one, 11 Sept for next Sunday's showing.

In the programme body there is a clear (R) to show repeat, the description confirms this is from earlier this year but a First Showing Only is causing these to be recorded.

[cwaring]

Last dialin 6:10 this morning so possible correction overnight (?)
Possible but unlikely. My last call was only around 80 mins after yours.

[mrtickle]

BBC2 22:00 Sundays all platforms
Prog: Dead Ringers

First shown is set to the date of this showing - so 4 Sept for the last one, 11 Sept for next Sunday's showing.

In the programme body there is a clear (R) to show repeat, the description confirms this is from earlier this year but a First Showing Only is causing these to be recorded.

It's highly automated - I wouldn't be surprised the different synopsis ("(R)" added) has caused Tribune's system to think "ah, this is something I haven't seen before, must be new".

[stevelup]

Hi

Two weeks running now, my TiVo has failed to record Holby City.

Last week, the reason given was "no longer exists in the programme guide"

This week, it simply didn't record it at all. There is no entry at all in the recording history.

The season pass doesn't show any forthcoming episodes either. I guess I need to delete it and recreate it?

Steve

[mrtickle]

It probably got split into two and you set a SP on the "other" series. The only Holby City series currently on my TiVo is the one with showings on UKGold/+1, BBC1 Scotland (which is Thurs at 21:00, a repeat of the one you missed?), the other BBC1 regions next Tuesday and then the same pattern again.

IIWY I wouldn't delete it, just create another one and put them next to each other in the SP manager priority list. Series like this can often flip-flop from ID to ID each week; keeping both increases your chances of getting a recording. (My record is having 4 Season Passes for the same series running concurrently)

[stevelup]

Hi

Great hint about BBC Scotland - I had no idea their schedule was so different to BBC South.

I've added a second season pass now - should definitely catch them.

Many thanks,

Steve

[xxxx]

And once again I have no guide data at all for Channel5 on Sky Digital from midnight last night till midnight tonight. I also have a complete 24hrs missing on the same channel next Wednesday.

That makes 4 times in less than one month, always with Channel5. I don't understand why no one else seems to have this.

[cwaring]

This isn't in the schedules yet.

Title: Shelter From The Storm
Channel: Sky One 120
Date: Saturday 10th September 2005
Time: 04:00 to 05:00
Duration: 1 hour.
Descr: Alicia Keys, Paul Simon, Rod Stewart and Sheryl Crow are expected to perform in this special charity concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Repeated @ 10am

[Andy Leitch]

Programme : Cruise With Stelios
Channel : Sky One 106
Time : Mondays @ 8pm

Not able to set SP.



REALITY SHOW: Cruise With Stelios
Channel: Sky One 106
Date: Monday 12th September 2005
Time: 20:00 to 21:00 (starting in 1 day)
Duration: 1 hour.
Follow the crew and passengers of easyCruiseOne as they make waves on the Med.
(New Series, Part 2 of 9, Widescreen, Subtitles, 2005)

Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from