ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors

[mccalli]

Using NTL's BBCR4FM channel (862) for Saturday, 17th July 10:30am.

Listing shows: The Roundhouse.
TV times and Radio 4 website shows "Britain In A Box: episode 3/4: A Still Tongue Makes A Happy Life".

It's a documentary about The Prisoner, which I'm quite interested in hearing.


Link to Radio 4 schedule listing is here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/daylist.cgi?tmp=whatson%2Fsdk%2Fradio4%2Fdaylist_radio4.tmpl&service_id=49700&DAY=Saturday&GO.x=17&GO.y=5

Cheers,
Ian

[lcsneil]

Sky Digital
BBC2
102
Working Lunch
14/7/04 (today)

Tivo shows it incorrectly listed as 1:30-2pm

It is actually 2:15pm-2:45pm (EPG & BBC Web Site (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings/index.shtml?service_id=4224) )

Manual recording time!

Neil

[AENG]

mccalli - thanks for the heads up on that Prisoner-related prog. on BBC R4FM. I've put in a manual request for it, confirmed by RT that turned up yesterday. I didn't really get into the series when it first appeared but now realise what a ground-breaker it was in its time.

[cwaring]

I have a FROSP for "Charmed" and a FROWL for "Will * Grace" ('Will & Grace' of course!)

From 2nd August, due no doubt to the generic listing for all episodes of both programmes, none of my other SPs (Buffy, Early Edition, Neighbours, etc) are scheduled to or will be recorded because they all clash with episodes of either Charmed or W&G.

Ozsat, can I assume that, as the dates draw closer, the generic data will be replaced by actual episode data and therefore none of them will be recorded? (IYSWIM!)

Thanks.

(Yes, I *could* re-order my SP/WL but, generic data excepted, they work perfectly as they are :))

[OzSat]

Originally posted by cwaring

Ozsat, can I assume that, as the dates draw closer, the generic data will be replaced by actual episode data and therefore none of them will be recorded? (IYSWIM!) I've noticed it often gets updated after a few days - I would complain when it hasn't and its less than 14 days to air.

[spamdrew]

Postcode G3
NTL Digital
BBC3 channel 126
Program "the smoking room"
Tivo can not tell what is a new episode.
i.E. it has recorded every single broadcast, even though i have a first showing only SP.
there appears to be one new episode a week, on a Tuesday, and repeats of this for the week.

[Gilesx]

Anybody else noticed that listings for MTV seem to have disappeared?
All I get is "MTV Music" listed every 2 hours for as far as the listings go - calls are going through without any problems, and every other channel has no problems updating


GL52 - Telewest Broadband

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by spamdrew
Postcode G3
NTL Digital
BBC3 channel 126
Program "the smoking room"
Tivo can not tell what is a new episode.
i.E. it has recorded every single broadcast, even though i have a first showing only SP.
there appears to be one new episode a week, on a Tuesday, and repeats of this for the week.

Tivo shows the same description for every episode on BBC3 but Radio Times shows it as

Sun 2/7 - RIP
Mon 3/7 - Pantballing
Tue 4/7 - Light My Fire
Wed 4/7 - Light My Fire
Sat 4/7 - Light my Fire


Neil

[Psioneer]

Postcode PE6
Provider Sky
Channel E4+1 (164)
Program - ALL AFTER SATURDAY MIDNIGHT

My TiVo's calls seem to be effective and uptodate, I have programme info until 9th of Aug except for E4+1

Very Odd.

Further investigation also reveals I too am missing MTVUK (ch440) data, GilesX.

Is this a glitch? Wonder what else might be gone?

[CarlWalters]

Postcode RG4
NTL Digital
BBC3 channel 126
Program "the smoking room"

Same description for evey single episode.

[aerialplug]

Postcode ME6
Service: Sky Digital
Channel: BBC Radio 4
Program: Engineering Solutions

This new series starts presented by Adam Hart-Davis, starts next week according to Radio Times (special feature on page 26), but TiVo lists Melvyn Bragg: In our Time.

On a general note - Radio 4 listings are really going down hill. It's never been as good and informative as the main TV listings, but more and more programmes are losing their episode titles and synopses.

Case in point: I have a season pass for Book of the Week, which is broadcast 9:45am and 0:30 the following morning. Up until recently the season pass worked fine, recording the 9:45am broadcast only, with the book's name being used as the episode name.

The last couple of weeks, there have been no titles and the isSeries flag is now incorrectly set, causing TiVo to record both broadcasts.

Can we see a tightening up of the Radio 4 metadata please? I record a lot from Radio 4 and the degradation in the service data is quite noticeable over the last month or so.

In fact, having typed this far, I've just done a quick comparison with Radio Times (and BBC What's On) for today and the TiVo schedule is APPALLING! Here are the differences:

Format: time tivo name - actual programme

11:00 From Our Own Correspondent - should be Crossing Continents, Crossing Europe
11:30 Voicing the Piano - The Bix Beiderbecke Story
15:00 Questions, Questions - More or Less
15:30 Getting Away From It - Island Tales
15:45 In Drovers' Boots In Drovers' Boots - Blood is Thicker than Water
16:00 Bookclub - Open Book
18:30 Revolting People - The Right Time
19:45 A Whole New Me - The God of Small Things
20:00 It's My Story - On the School Beat
20:30 In Business - Analysis
21:00 Leading Edge Devout Sceptics
21:30 Melvyn Bragg: In Our Time - Devout Sceptics
23:00 Radio 9 - The Storyman with Andrew Glover

That's over half the schedule being completely wrong - it looks like a listing that's well over a month out of date.

[groovyclam]

BBC Radio 7 listings are very wrong at the moment - missed listings for "Little Britain" yesterday and TiVo says "Knowing Me, Knowing You" is on when it is, in fact, a programme called "Bristow"

Come on - get the BBC Radio programme titles accurate, if not the descriptions.

[groovyclam]

Weekday mornings Channel 4 are currently showing the 60's Spider-Man cartoon.

It's series ID *was* correct until today.

The series ID now and for future episodes has been mutated into the modern Spider-Man cartoon that is shown on FoxKids channel.

Please change back to the 60's cartoon Spider-Man series ID.

[aerialplug]

I've flagged this (radio 4/7 problem) up with CS, who are going to flag it up as a problem with Tribune - hopefully things should improve soon.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by aerialplug
I've flagged this (radio 4/7 problem) up with CS, who are going to flag it up as a problem with Tribune - hopefully things should improve soon. I, too, have noticed R4's data has gone all to ****.

I have an SP for Routemasters, a series that ended a month ago; TiVo is still recording it!

Mind you, this did enable me to hear a great documentary about the British Army setting up VW production in Post-War Germany. :cool:

[AENG]

Thanks Aerialplug - I had realised BBCR4FM was a bit lacking (I posted a mis-described new series on the relevant thread yesterday) but hadn't realised quite how bad it was. I've just managed to put my threepenn'orth in with CS even tho' it took two calls and a total wait of over 20 mins. I must say that Billy dealt with the complaint in a very courteous way - I just hope he gets a result.

[dsbowskill]

W4
Freeview
BBC7, Ch78
Knowing Me, Knowing You
Thu 22 July 0330

Programme data says it's Knowing Me, Knowing you. It was actually 'Bristow'.


This is wrong *again* after me reporting it nearly a month ago. Come on guys, get it together!

[Toothy]

Formula Woman
ITV1 All Regions
Sundays 1510, may also be incorporated into Speed Sunday.


ITV1 and Tivo both list this programme as Formula Women, the SP is still working but it's these type of silly errors that can easily break a SP.

[lcsneil]

Postcode: W12
Service Provider $ky
Channel Name UKFood
Programme Name Rick Stein's Food Heros
Time/Date of airing Mon 26th July - Fri 30th July
8am, noon, 15:30 & 21:00
Problem encountered Duplicates recorded

Each day this week UKFood is showing the above programme and the same prog. isbeing shown 4 times during the course of the day. Season Pass is picking up and trying to record all 4 episodes every day.

Neil

[lcsneil]

.... and another thing.....

Postcode: W12
Service Provider : $ky
Channel Name : Living
Programme Name : Queer Eye for the Straight Guy UK (Tivo title)
Time/Date of airing
Tue 27th Jul 00:00
Wed 28th Jul 20:00
Tue 3rd Aug 00:00
Wed 4th Aug 20:00
Sat 7th Aug 14:00
Sat 7th Aug 16:00


Problem encountered : This episode(s) is the AMERICAN version of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy not the UK version according to both Digiguide & Living TV Website (http://www.livingtv.co.uk/schedule/index.html) so it should not have the UK on the end of the title!

Neil

[aerialplug]

Update on Radio 4 situation.

I've done some checking, and it seems the schedule information for BBC Radio 4 is exactly 7 weeks behind on what it actually should be. In other words, the shedule being displayed for R4 today (26th July) is actually the one meant for 7th June (thanks for this accurate info go to the huge pile of old Radio Times that reside under my desk and haven't yet gone to the recycling bin!).

This explains why old season passes are still recording programmes that have long since disappeared.

On saturday, I spoke to Customer Services again about the fact that Radio 4 appears to be in a time warp. After checking on their own TiVo and confirming that indeed there was a problem, an email is being sent to the head of TiVo and the head of the company that does the schedule (Tribune I presume, though this wasn't mentione by name).


I'll post here if I hear anything further.

[Sparky007]

Lost detailed guide data for MTV UK ?!? Rarely anything good on, and with the repeats was pretty useless anyway, but it would still be nice to have. All it shows now is 4 hour chunks with 'unknown' title. MTV2 is still ok.

Anyone else missing this?

[cwaring]

Originally posted by cwaring
I have a FROSP for "Charmed" and a FROWL for "Will * Grace" ('Will & Grace' of course!)

From 2nd August, due no doubt to the generic listing for all episodes of both programmes, none of my other SPs (Buffy, Early Edition, Neighbours, etc) are scheduled to or will be recorded because they all clash with episodes of either Charmed or W&G.

Ozsat, can I assume that, as the dates draw closer, the generic data will be replaced by actual episode data and therefore none of them will be recorded? (IYSWIM!)

Thanks.

(Yes, I *could* re-order my SP/WL but, generic data excepted, they work perfectly as they are :))


Originally posted by ozsat
I've noticed it often gets updated after a few days - I would complain when it hasn't and its less than 14 days to air.

Ozsat.

I had completely forgotten about this :(
I will be calling Tivo CS this evening, but would appreciate your mentioning it too, to whoever you tell about this stuff :)

The problem, as described above, is still affecting next weeks listings.

[AENG]

BBCR4FM Chaos

It's 6 days since aerialplug and I (and I hope a few others) complained to CS about the chaotic state of the EPG for this channel. Billy did say that it was down to Tribune and it would take up to 5 days to fix.

Well, I've forced another update and it's still nearly all (apparently 7-week old) rubbish. But perhaps I'm being unreasonable and what they really need is 5 *working* days to get it sorted. :rolleyes:

AENG

[aerialplug]

I actually contacted CS yesterday afternoon about the matter. Apparently, they've had no contact from Tribune about it since my last call (Sunday), and all they can do is send another email to Tribune.

I was also told that there really wasn't much point in phoning again as the problem is being monitored (though I hope that if more people call, some more urgency may be applied).

I just forced a daily call today - no change.

[groovyclam]

This is either very poor service from Tribune or the beginning of the end for radio listings ( i.e. hoping generic radio listings can be rolled on week on week which we know won't work at all for Radio4 and BBC7, and for the other BBC stations either to varying degrees )

[Ollie]

BBC7 listings seem to have gone already, or rather, come to an end at 6am this coming Saturday. Maybe this is Tribune's idea of a solution - i.e., no listings are better than bad listings. Whatever, it doesn't bode well.

[aerialplug]

I've just forced a daily load and...

Good news about Radio 4 - as of tomorrow (Saturday) it looks like Radio 4 is back on track. On comparison with Radio Times, tomorrow's (and the rest of the week's) schedule looks good. Book of the Week still doesn't have a title or synopsis and records both broadcasts, but the rest of the schedule looks mostly fine.

Bad news about BBC 7 - as of 6am tomorrow morning there are still no programmes in the schedule.

Speaking of Book of the Week - if you're interested in the history of television, next week's Book of the Week is entitled "Television and Me" - John Logie Baird's memoirs - could be interesting.

[pahunt]

No listings for BBC7 is a disaster :eek: Still at least they're nice and consistent so manual recordings shouldn't be too bad, but I hope this is just a temporary problem.

[AENG]

Thanks for your efforts towards getting BBCR4FM going again, aerialplug - much appreciated.

AENG

[aerialplug]

Hmmm... I don't know if this is bad or something to ignore for now as it'll rectify later, but the Radio 4 schedules look like they go back to the 7 week time warp the week after next.

It's BAD that BBCR7 is completely schedule-less tomorrow. Does anyone know what time of the day the data on the servers is updated, or possibly is it constantly updated?

[lcsneil]

So do we know if this is duff data coming through from BBC listings or is it Tribune mangling it?

Neil

[aerialplug]

The BBC publish their schedule to many different organisations possibly directly or indirectly - most of which seem to accurately represent the schedule...

[sjp]

Originally posted by aerialplug
Hmmm... I don't know if this is bad or something to ignore for now as it'll rectify later, but the Radio 4 schedules look like they go back to the 7 week time warp the week after next.


I wondered if Desert Island Discs was an isolated incident yesterday when the listings stated that the Friday repeat was Prof. A H Halsey when it was a repeat of Emmylou Harris, an easy mistake to make... I always get those two mixed up :)

They also don't seem to know the Sunday first broadcast, Friday repeat pattern of the show. In fact, I'm not even sure if they know the programme is even broadcast on a Sunday at all.

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Service Provider : Sky
Channel Name : Parcom2
Programme Name : Best of the Comedy Store
Problem: From 3rd August all the OADs are the same and TiVo wants to record every episode.

[JohnYoung]

I posted separately before reading this thread - Have spoken to CS about the lack of Radio listings this morning. The operator I spoke to said they "hadn't heard of this problem before".

I guess TiVo and Tribune have decided to save the time & effort of including these listings for a minority of users, to see if anyone notices or draws it to attention.

[OzSat]

The problem with BBCR4FM and BBCR7 has now been resolved!

[djrowley]

Originally posted by ozsat
The problem with BBCR4FM and BBCR7 has now been resolved!

Excellent - BBC7 is back, thanks.

David

[rilian]

- CW3 9HN
- Sky
- Playhouse Disney
- 616
- Jo Jo's Circus
- Daily, 6:30 (Except Tivo thinks it's really at 7:30)

Playhouse Disney schedules have been messed up for weeks. A season pass for Jo Jo's Circus infallibly produces 'Book of Pooh' instead (and a cross child...).

The error seems to be an assumption that the 6pm-7pm schedule is the same as the 7-8pm schedule (it isn't).

(Digiguide gets this right)

[ericd121]

Originally posted by ozsat
The problem with BBCR4FM and BBCR7 has now been resolved! The BBCR4FM listings for this week (up to Friday 6th August) are correct.
The BBCR4FM listings for next week (up to Friday 13th August) are incorrect.
They are the same as they were before the fix.

It could be that Tribune is employing the Just-In-Time delivery system, and that the listings will be fixed nearer the time.

[Mike B]

- RG6
- Freeview
- Radio 1 (BBCR1)
- 70
- 'Edith Bowman'
- 13:00 - 16:00

TiVo do not seem to have updated for Radio 1's new schedule - 'JK and Joel' and now on 13:00-16:00 on Sundays.

Also, TiVo is reporting the weekday listings incorrectly:

04:00 - 07:00 'The Blue Room' - wrong show
13:00 - 15:00 'Colin & Edith' - wrong times
15:00 - 17:45 'Scott Mills' - wrong show
18:00 - 20:00 'Dave Pearce' - completely wrong
20:00 - 22:00 'Lamacq Live' - wrong times
22:00 - 00:00 'Mary Anne Hobbs' - wrong times

The correct listing is here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/daylist.cgi?service_id=49697&day=Monday

[aerialplug]

Although we now do have a correct Radio 4 schedule for this week, there are still issues.

New series aren't being flagged up as series, so I can't book season passes for them.

Also, the synopsis/genre etc. is completely wrong for some programmes.

An example which illustrates both of these is a new series which starts tomorrow on Radio 4: We Interrupt This Programme, on at 11:30am.

TiVo describes the programme as "Living with and staying alive in the current AIDS crisis", giving it the genres "Health and Fitness, Special".

Radio Times however correctly describes the programme as "Mark Thomas Profiles the first of four American comedy acts, who used the convention of radio for their own subversive ends". It's also a 4 part series, and I can't book a season pass for it as it's listed as a special, not a series.

Most other series seem to be described correctly, but many are incorrectly described as being not series.

[ericd121]

ITV2
Freeview
Wednesday 4th August 2004 5:10am
Late Show With David Letterman

My TiVo failed to record last night's Late Show With David Letterman :( set for 5:10am this morning.

It doesn't even appear in Recording History, and looking at the ITV2 listings within TiVo, everything before 6:00am is in two hour slots of ITV Entertainment.

Does anyone else record this programme?
Or does anyone have any idea WTF happened? :confused: :(

[Mike B]

Yeah, I noticed this last night as well (also on Freeview, postcode RG6), but didn't bother posting it as the data for today onwards seems correct.

[cwaring]

Hallmark (HALLMK, 190 on Telewest)
"Early Edition"
11am/7pm M-F

Apparently, "all this week" they're showing two episodes. Not *too* surprisingly, no one has told Tribune as my Tivo is only showing the one at 11am, mentioned above, so I'm missing 50% of the shows :(

Not that bothered and I might even deleted the SP, but worth a mention!!

[bigarbel]

- Postcode: KA30
- Service Provider: Sky Digital
- Channel Name: UK TV Documentary/People
- Channel Number: 564/566
- Programme Name: Lots
- Time/Date of airing: Since 03/08 (I think)
- Problem encountered: Schedule on these two channels seems to be completely wrong since the beginning of this week.

[csansbury]

- Postcode: AB10
- Service Provider: Sky Digital
- Channel Name: ITVGMP
- Channel Number: 103
- Programme Name: Scotsport First / Scotsport SPL
- Time/Date of airing: 08/08/04 12.00 / 09/08/04 23.00

- Problem encountered: These are two separate shows (though they arew both about football) lumped into one (Scotsport). There is NO episode information so a wishlist won't work, and despite both these shows being live, their original airing date is 24th march 2002.

[whitebj]

Postcode GU22
Chanel E4P1

The guide lists the programme starting at 03:25 on Mon 9 Aug as 'Faking It' but it looks like it is in fact 'Faking It USA'

[whitebj]

My Tivo kindly informs me that there are some 160 or so upcoming episodes of Will & Grace (it's a funny show but not that funny!) and Tribune have entered the details for very many of these.

However, there are quite a number that have no details and so have been picked up by my 'First run only' season pass so I've just spent a happy quarter of an hour deleting the ones I think will be repeats.

Hopefully this means that some shows that we would have otherwise missed will be re-entered into the to do list as the Tivo reorganises itself.

As I understand the new episodes are on Living (Sky channel 112) on Wednesdays at 9pm.

HTH

[cwaring]

As reported (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=2122195#post2122195) by me last week. Not fixed yet :(

[Adlopa]

Does anyone know what's happening with "Surviving Nugent"..? It's supposed to be showing on VH2 at 11pm this Friday but my (Telewest) TiVo only has it on MTVUK on 31st August at midnight.

[bradleyem]

- Postcode: E7
- Service Provider: Sky Digital
- Channel Name: Sky Sports 1 & Xtra
- Channel Number: 401 & 404
- Programme Name: Soccer AM's All Sports Show
- Time/Date of airing: All - every Friday
- Problem encountered: Tivo attempts to record pretty much every showing of this show, even though the episodes on Friday nights and Saturday mornings are repeats of the 6pm Friday showing.
This was also the case last year. OAD are set to 23rd Aug 2002 for all episodes.

[bradleyem]

Postcode: E7
- Service Provider: Sky Digital
- Channel Name: Sky Sports (all)
- Channel Number: 401 - 404
- Programme Name: Football League Review
- Time/Date of airing: Often
- Problem encountered: Tivo attempts to record pretty much every showing of this show,
All OADs are set to 21st Dec 1998

On the whole, there's one episode that runs sunday and Monday, and then assuming midweek games, a second episode on Thursday and Friday.

[Richardr]

A somewhat immediate issue for those who want any of this morning's football programmes on terrestrial.

Here (London, DTT):

BBC 1 (101) doesn't have Match of the Day in the schedule (should be 9:45 fpr a revised repeat of last night's show).

ITV London (103) has The Championship at 10:30, but it won't record, as it shows as a repeat of last week's programme.

[Nevets]

- Postcode: SL3
- Service Provider: Analogue Terrestrial
- Channel Name: CH4
- Programme Name: That'll Teach 'Em
- Time/Date of airing: Every Tuesday
- Problem encountered: New series of That'll Teach 'Em is not being picked up by my SP.

[falcon44]

Just checked my to do list and my FRO season pass wasn't picking up the new Sopranos tomorrow (Tues) night on E4

It is showing an OAD of sometime in April.

Is anyone else seeing this problem?

[firestarterUK]

DE1
Sky Digital
BBC Radio 1
Annie Nightingale

As reported earlier, the new Radio 1 schedule has not been updated & Annie's show is still (incorrectly) being displayed as being on Sunday mornings at 04.00. Should be early Friday morning at 01.00 (I think)

[Adder]

Postcode : GU2
Provider: BSkyB UK
Channel: MOTORS 413

Issue:
No listings for a week, and no listings in the future.

Pretty please can someone prod Motors again if they've got lax in sending the listings as most things I watch at the weekend are on Motors.

I'm off now to set about a dozen manual recordings... :(

[the_hut]

Originally posted by falcon44
Just checked my to do list and my FRO season pass wasn't picking up the new Sopranos tomorrow (Tues) night on E4

It is showing an OAD of sometime in April.

Is anyone else seeing this problem?

I hadn't had this problem, but I am not using the FRO option. Presumably the OAD is wrong because it was shown earlier in the Republic of Ireland.

Might be best to switch of FRO for now - the SP isn't picking up duplicates due to the 28 Day rule.

[Adder]

Thumbs up for the swift return of Motors TV listings! ;)

[Major dude]

Postcode: BR2
- Service Provider: NTL
- Channel Name: ITV1
- Channel Number: 3
- Programme Name: The Block
- Time/Date of airing: 23.00 Mon 23/08
- Problem encountered: Misdescription as 'Footballers Wives' was run in this slot

[bigarbel]

Anyone know what's up with TIVO messing up the shedule for UK TV People for a few weeks in a row now?

I keep on getting something with Tattoos or Sex in the Street instead if Have I got 1992/3 for you

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by bigarbel

I keep on getting something with Tattoos or Sex in the Street instead if Have I got 1992/3 for you

Personally I think I'd prefer..... eer did I just say that out loud?

:o

Neil

[SimonG]

Postcode: RH10
- Service Provider: BSKYB
- Channel Name: MOTORS TV
- Channel Number: 413
- Programme Name: All
- Time/Date of airing: All
- Problem encountered: No listing available for this channel!

[sjp]

Postcode: SM3
- Service Provider: BSKYB
- Channel Name: Hallmark
- Channel Number: 190
- Programme Name: Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
- Time/Date of airing: start of season 5
- Problem encountered: Tivo showing the first 3 episodes as being broadcast before they are... Both the Hallmark listings page and DigiGuide have the first 3 eps on Sept 1st, 2nd and 3rd respectively. Tivo has them on a couple of days earlier... If recorded earlier then the proper broadcast will not be recorded under the 28 day rule.

what a way to start a new (uk premiere) season.

[Adder]

Originally posted by SimonG
Postcode: RH10
- Service Provider: BSKYB
- Channel Name: MOTORS TV
- Channel Number: 413
- Programme Name: All
- Time/Date of airing: All
- Problem encountered: No listing available for this channel!

There are listings on my TiVo, but they end this Saturday at 11am.

can we have some more before then please?

[yonderblue]

Postcode: EH9
- Service Provider: Telewest Active Digital
- Channel Name: MTVDANCE
- Channel Number: 309
- Programme Name: European Dancefloor Chart Show
- Time/Date of airing: All
- Problem encountered: No Season Pass option available, The shows are on Sunday and Tuesday but the times can vary.

[Typhoid]

Postcode: CT16
- Service Provider: NTL-exC&W
- Channel Name: Nickelodeon & Nic Replay
- Channel Number: 72 & 827
- Programme Name: Gilmore Girls
- Time/Date of airing: 1800:Sunday 5th Sept and 1900 for replay
- Problem encountered: Not in listings - new series is in digiguide, on the Nick website and they're broadcasting trails for it.

(but then Nicks listings have been in the toilet for a couple of weeks - its been recording half hours of Kate and Ashley movies on the basis Tivo thinks that 'What I like about you ' is on - but that didnt annoy me enuff to report)

Webpage Listing (http://nick.co.uk/whatson/nick/NickSchedule.aspx?required_date=632300051059062500&sched=)

[Adder]

Originally posted by Adder
There are listings on my TiVo, but they end this Saturday at 11am.

can we have some more before then please?

There are still no listings for channel 413 MOTORS on BSkyB UK, please can we have them back? :(

[aerialplug]

This looks to be only a cosmetic error - but the 3 part BBC drama "The Grid" that's on BBC 2 on 7th, 8th and 9th September appears to have episode names Episode 1, Episode 3 and Episode 4!

[bobc292001]

Why does the Tivo service have so many problems with schedule errors?
Isn't it all provided electronically to Tribune so they simply have to turn it into TiVo code?
Considering that the EPG is the heart of the Tivo service, it seems astonishing to me that this is the best we can get. If it were any other industry, they (Tribune) would be out of business if they continually provided duff / missing / inaccurate output.

[sanderton]

Yes and no. They are often provided with incorrect or incomplete information, and they have to add extra data in order for SPs and the 28-day rule to work so it's not just a matter of loading up a disk from the BBC.

The system is vulnerable to late changes, but that's a system design issue, not Tribune's fault.

[bobc292001]

I'm not really talking about late schedule changes as I can see how Tivo cannot cope with this.
It's more about the sort of challenges we see in this thread, which seems to house a plethora of mistakes or channels having inaccurate/missing schedule information.
If Sky can get it right most of the time, why can't Tivo?

[OzSat]

It isn't Sky that get it right - it the broadcasters.

The Sky EPG information comes direct from the broadcasters as a part of the EPG contract.

Many channels do not provide schedule updates at all - some not even schedules.

If the schedule changes - then TiVo can do nothing unless they are advised of the change.

A lot of the problems you see reported are 'season passes' which have nothing to do with the schedule data provided.

[bobc292001]

Thanks for the replies. things are a bit clearer now.
However, without wanting to sound like a stuck record, I still think the service leaves a lot to be desired. Please don't get me wrong ... I love my Tivo to bits, but I can't help thinking that sometimes these forums become clouded with a paternalistic desire to shield Tivo's shortcomings and make excuses for it. This against a backdrop of a service that simply doesn't do what it should. It shouldn't matter to us as users whether it's the broadcasters fault, or a mistake by a Tribune employee entering SP data.
The result is the same ... a service that is not cutting edge and people missing programs they want to record... and personally I think that's unacceptable in todays service orientated marketplace.

[sanderton]

There is no 100% reliable EPG - even the Sky one goes wrong sometimes. I find the failiure rate (as opposed to "false positives" where extra things are recorded) to be extremely low from the channels and shows I am interested in. I realise that if you record a lot from some of the less mainstream digital channels, in particular the music channels, that you might not have the same experience.

[Toothy]

Postcode: DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: ITV1 ALL REGIONS

Channel Number: 103

Programme Name: Von Trapped

Time/Date Of Airing: Sat 4/9 8:45pm

Problem: Almost everything!!!

Von Trapped is the name of this episode....the correct programme name is Trapped.

Actor Wishlist for Caroline Quentin is not picking up this new series due to an incomplete episode description.

Also unable to set SP for this 3 part series.




Channel Name: ITV1 ALL Regions

Programme Name: Blue Murder

Time/Date of Airing: Mon 6/9 9:00PM

Problem:

Actor Wishlist for Caroline Quentin is not picking up this new series due to incomplete episode description.



Channel Name: GMM

Channel Number: 136

Programme Name: High Octane 2

Time/Date of Airing: All airings

Problem: Wrong Category description.

Listed as Adult, should actually be Motoring.

Also the previous episode broadcast on 31/8, had US TiVo data!!!

Was listed as an adult Pay-Per-View programme complete with pricing in US dollars.


:confused: :confused:

[ericd121]

Originally posted by Toothy
Postcode: DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: ITV1 ALL REGIONS

Channel Number: 103

Programme Name: Von Trapped

Time/Date Of Airing: Sat 4/9 8:45pm

Problem: Almost everything!!!

Von Trapped is the name of this episode....the correct programme name is Trapped.

Actor Wishlist for Caroline Quentin is not picking up this new series due to an incomplete episode description.

Also unable to set SP for this 3 part series.

:confused: :confused:
According to last week's Radio Times, this is a series of three plays, all on the theme of Trapped.
Von Trapped is the name of this week's play, and it is listed as such by the Radio Times.
I agree it ought to be SP-able, tho'

[Toothy]

My listings mag has it listed as Trapped, and I distinctly remember the ITV trailer from a few weeks ago, again listing it as Trapped....although the ITV website listings as it has Von Trapped. :confused:

Next error.

Programme Name: Five Live Formula One

Channel Name: Radio Five Live

Channel Number: 855

Time/Date of Airing: Each Fri 9.30pm

Problem: SP not catching every episode.

I have a SP for this, although TiVo doesn't list every airing as it's incorporated into Sport on Five. Tonight I set a manual recording just in case it was being aired....and I was right....it's being broadcast as I type.

The Sky banner has the correct details...but TiVo just has the generic Sport On Five programme data.

This is something that happens regularly with radio programmes within radio programmes......e.g. Talking Technology which is incorporated into the mammoth 4 hour broadcast of Up All Night on 5 Live on Monday mornings.

The Sky banner lists the programme correctly.....but TiVo doesn't. :mad: :(

The real problem is that sometimes Talking Technology & Five Live Formula One are sometimes moved to different time-slots...so setting up a manual recording, (when the SP fails), is a blind stab in the dark. :(

[pmk]

Does anyone know when TiVo will populate the listings for Ch15 on Freeview (ABC1)?

I have gone through and added ARWishLists for the programmes I want but I want to check they are picking up the programmes.

TIA

[OzSat]

Originally posted by pmk
Does anyone know when TiVo will populate the listings for Ch15 on Freeview (ABC1)?

I have gone through and added ARWishLists for the programmes I want but I want to check they are picking up the programmes.

TIA The channel doesn't start until 27th Sept - so based on the fact that TiVo has 20 days of schedules you will not see anything before 7th Sept.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Adder
There are still no listings for channel 413 MOTORS on BSkyB UK, please can we have them back? :(

There have now been no listings on Motors for a week and I've just missed most of the German Touring Car Qualifying session. :(

[OzSat]

Originally posted by Toothy
Von Trapped is the name of this episode....the correct programme name is Trapped.

All the schedules I have for each ITV region from ITV have Von Trapped as the only title. No episode details except in the synopsis which says First of three one-off dramas.

Trapped is the theme for each drama - but as they are "one-off dramas" they will not be linked.

Should carry cast info though.

[Toothy]

Maybe a better and more sensible way to list Trapped would be.....Trapped: Von Trapped for the first programme, then Trapped: Beauty for the second and then Trapped: King Of Fridges for the third. Just as ITV have done tonight.

http://www.btinternet.com/~mil1401/Pix/trapped.jpg

I'll wager that the other programmes will be trailed in this way in the following two weeks. :p

I knew this series was coming up, so a few weeks ago, I set a Title Wishlist for Trapped and as I already have an Actor Wishlist for Caroline Quentin, I was confident TiVo would catch all episodes in this series.

Having both methods fail really isn't acceptable. :( :(

[cwaring]

Why are you all blaming Tribune? They can only work off the data they're given. To me it looks like it's ITV's "fault", or your own for "assuming" a non-existant (at the time!) title for a WL; however sensible that title might have been :D

[sanderton]

Actor Wishlists for UK series are VERY unreliable. It is unusuall for Tribune to code the actors of a British series into the data.

Much better to set a keyword wishlist for the actor's name.

[Toothy]

Strangely enough, I've found Actor Wishlists to be VERY reliable. :confused: :cool:

I have 8 separate AW, (all are for UK series), and they all record without fail.....providing the episode data has a cast-list. ;)

I have an AW for Reece Dinsdale and tonight TiVo recorded Threads on UKTVDoc....I didn't even know he was in it!!!, and it was a programme I haven't seen since 1985....so a double :up: :up: for that one. :D

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Toothy
....so a double :up: :up: for that one. :D
What, for the film itself or the fact that Tivo recorded it? :D

(Sorry, humour mode not brilliant on a Sunday morning when I've just got up! :))

[cwaring]

DRAMA: Third Watch
Channel: Channel 4 104
Date: Friday 17th September 2004
Time: 11:05 to 12:00 (starting in 10 days)
Duration: 55 minutes.
Snow Blind. Series 4, episode 13.

Tivo has the previous days episode - "Castles Of Sand" - listed again and therefore it will not be recorded.

[Toothy]

Postcode : DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: ITV2

Channel Number: 175

Programme Name: Gone In 60 Seconds

Time/Date Of Airing: Mon 6/9 9:00pm

Problem: Wrong version of film

TiVo has listed the 1974 original version of this film.....it's actually the 2000 remake which will be broadcast tonight.....which is a shame....I wouldn't mind seeing the original again.

[groovyclam]

Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: LivingTV ( and also LivingTV+1 )
Channel Number: 112 and 113
Programme Name: Will and Grace
Time/Date Of Airing: Mon 6 - Fri 10 Sept

Problem: Living TV schedules do not match Sky EPG or DigiGuide for this week.

Specifically Will and Grace episodes are on at 14:20 and 18:35 but TiVo says other programmes are on instead.

[britcub]

Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101 and others
Programme Name: Jack Dee Live at the Apollo
Time/Date Of Airing: Mondays from 6 Sept onwards, 10:35

Problem: Does not appear to have a season pass.

[Mike B]

Originally posted by Toothy
Postcode : DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: ITV2

Channel Number: 175

Programme Name: Gone In 60 Seconds

Time/Date Of Airing: Mon 6/9 9:00pm

Problem: Wrong version of film

TiVo has listed the 1974 original version of this film.....it's actually the 2000 remake which will be broadcast tonight.....which is a shame....I wouldn't mind seeing the original again.

This was incorrect on Freeview / Channel 6 / Postcode RG6 as well.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by pmk
Does anyone know when TiVo will populate the listings for Ch15 on Freeview (ABC1)?

I have gone through and added ARWishLists for the programmes I want but I want to check they are picking up the programmes.

TIA The first two days are now listed.

[scoopuk]

Postcode: S1
Channel: BBCR4FM
Service: Telewest cable 904
Day: Tuesday 21st September
Time: 6-30pm - 7PM


Radio 4 listings may not be up to date.
Tivo has "The In Crowd", but it should be the new series of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

see here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/newseries.shtml

This also affects the repeat on Thursday nights from the 23rd...

[technograndad]

- Postcode RG41
- DTT
- Channel name: BBCR1
- Channel Number: 70
- The Essential Mix
- 02:00-04:00 every Sunday (should be 01:00-03:00)

The Essential Mix moved it's slot from 2am to 1am a few weeks ago, yet the TiVo listings still show it as 02:00.

I missed Dave Seaman's mix last night's due to a phantom clash with John Digweed on Kiss at 3:00 :(

John

[Foxy]

Postcode ML8
- DTT
- Channel name: BBC1
- Channel Number: 40
- Silent Witness
- 21:00 Sunday & Monday

I set up a Season Pass based on last week's Sunday program and it correctly picked up the Monday program.

I have just noticed that it has NOT picked up tonight/tomorrow night's showings or next week's.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by Foxy
Postcode ML8
- DTT
- Channel name: BBC1
- Channel Number: 40
- Silent Witness
- 21:00 Sunday & Monday

I set up a Season Pass based on last week's Sunday program and it correctly picked up the Monday program.

I have just noticed that it has NOT picked up tonight/tomorrow night's showings or next week's. Check you recording history to see why.

The episodes are correct and are listing here - SP has worked here and OADs are correct.

[Foxy]

Originally posted by ozsat
Check you recording history to see why.

The episodes are correct and are listing here - SP has worked here and OADs are correct.

Hi OzSat,

I've now put them in as manual recordings, but they weren't showing as "Won't Record", they weren't showing at all. And if I take them out now, they'll just show as "someone... deleted...". Right?

I realised that I didn't specify, in my original post, that the channel is BBC1SCO, so maybe someone up here could check?

[leejordan]

Service Provider: NTL
Postcode: KT8
Channel Name: Animal Planet
Channel Number: 135
Programme Name: Kindred Spirit
Time/Date Of Airing: 15/09/04 8pm

This is the start of a new series but doesn't have a Season Pass available.

Thanks,

Lee.

[jarob10]

- Postcode SK7
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) Freeview
- Channel Name BBCR1
- Channel Number 70
- Programme Name Essential Mix
- Time/Date of airing Weekly Sunday 1AM-3AM
- Problem encountered The programme time has changed from 2-4 to 1-3. The listings have not been updated.

EDIT - sorry, someone has already posted this error.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by scoopuk
Postcode: S1
Channel: BBCR4FM
Service: Telewest cable 904
Day: Tuesday 21st September
Time: 6-30pm - 7PM


Radio 4 listings may not be up to date.
Tivo has "The In Crowd", but it should be the new series of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

see here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/newseries.shtml

This also affects the repeat on Thursday nights from the 23rd... Next week's Radio 4 listings have been wrong for a few months now.
This week's listing usually prove to be more correct.
Wait until next week and you'll see what I mean...:rolleyes:

[davisa]

- Postcode - UB10 8UN
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) - Telewest
- Channel Name - BBC Radio 4
- Channel Number - 904
- Programme Name - Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy
- Time/Date of airing - 18:30 on Tuesday 23rd Sept
- Problem encountered - Series "The In Crowd" Episode "Unknown" listed. Should be "Hitch Hikers Guide - Episode 1 of 6" every Tuesday at 18:30pm for 6 weeks - repeated Thursdays at 11pm.

Edited to add: Oh ******, I didn't spot the above post!

[OzSat]

The BBC radio listings seem to get updated after the tv stuff - and seem to be done by Wednesday.

The listings were updated today - so 'Hitchhikers Guide ...' is now there.

[cwaring]

It's take me a couple of mins, but I finally figured out what was wrong with the Tivo's "West Wing" E4 listings.

My SP for this is set to FR&RSP.

The imminent repeat (1245, Thurs) of last Tuesday's episode is WRONGLY listed as the first showing of the NEXT episode in the season. This means that it is NOT picking up the actual "first run" wp next Tuesday.

Manual changes to SP & TDL is probably the best idea!

[ericd121]

Originally posted by ozsat
The BBC radio listings seem to get updated after the tv stuff - and seem to be done by Wednesday.

The listings were updated today - so 'Hitchhikers Guide ...' is now there. Postcode MK2
Service Provider FreeView
Channel Name BBC Radio 4
Channel Number 74
Programme Name Five Shapes
Time/Date Tuesday 14 September 9:30am to 9:45am

This didn't record because it wasn't listed, possibly because it was on a Tuesday...:rolleyes:

And no, there was no mention of it in Recording History.

That episode's shape was The Sphere so my response is, appropriately,
Balls!

(Next week's episode does appear in the Guide Data)

[Adder]

Postcode: BR8
Provider BSkyB UK

Channel: 413 MOTORS

No listings for the last few days and no future listings again.

Can I have my £10 back for the last month of almost no listings aside from about 4 days a week and a half ago?

[OzSat]

Motors are the problem - not providing the schedules soon enough to be useful.

[Toothy]

Originally posted by ozsat
Motors are the problem - not providing the schedules soon enough to be useful.
Or is it more likely that Tribune are too slow in converting the supplied data into TiVo-friendly code.....if Sky can provide accurate listings....why can't Tribune?? :confused:

Quoting myself...

Channel Name: ITV1 ALL Regions

Programme Name: Blue Murder

Time/Date of Airing: Mon 6/9 9:00PM

Problem:

Actor Wishlist for Caroline Quentin is not picking up this new series due to incomplete episode description.

This still hasn't been fixed. :(

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Toothy
Or is it more likely that Tribune are too slow in converting the supplied data into TiVo-friendly code.....if Sky can provide accurate listings....why can't Tribune?? :confused:

Because Sky's listings aren't controlled by Sky. They are controlled by the individual channels themeslves. I believe there are also heavy fines for incorrect EPG information.

I tend to believe Ozsat as, if anyone would know, he should :)

If MotorsTV can't supply the correct listing, don't blame Tribune.

[Toothy]

Originally posted by Toothy


Programme Name: Five Live Formula One

Channel Name: Radio Five Live

Channel Number: 855

Time/Date of Airing: Each Fri 9.30pm

Problem: SP not catching every episode.

I have a SP for this, although TiVo doesn't list every airing as it's incorporated into Sport on Five. Tonight I set a manual recording just in case it was being aired....and I was right....it's being broadcast as I type.

The Sky banner has the correct details...but TiVo just has the generic Sport On Five programme data.

This is something that happens regularly with radio programmes within radio programmes......e.g. Talking Technology which is incorporated into the mammoth 4 hour broadcast of Up All Night on 5 Live on Monday mornings.

The Sky banner lists the programme correctly.....but TiVo doesn't. :mad: :(

The real problem is that sometimes Talking Technology & Five Live Formula One are sometimes moved to different time-slots...so setting up a manual recording, (when the SP fails), is a blind stab in the dark. :( [/B]

I have missed yet another episode of Five Live Formula One due to a SP not catching all episodes. :mad:

As I mentioned above 5LF1, is regularly moved around but poor data from Tribune is breaking this SP.

It's normally broadcast on Fridays...but this weeks airing, (according to a paper listings mag), was moved to the previous day. :(

TiVo is only catching one airing a month.....which really isn't acceptable.

[Toothy]

Originally posted by cwaring
Because Sky's listings aren't controlled by Sky. They are controlled by the individual channels themeslves.
That doesn't make any sense. :confused:

If Sky listings are provided by each channel/broadcaster and Tribune gets their listings direct from each channel/broadcaster....why are Sky listings correct and TiVo listings wrong??? :confused:

[AMc]

If I understand it correctly on sky the channels include their listings with their broadcast stream - sky don't do anything but send whatever the channel provides.

[cwaring]

Sorry :( That's what I meant.

Originally posted by Toothy
That doesn't make any sense. :confused:

If Sky listings are provided by each channel/broadcaster and Tribune gets their listings direct from each channel/broadcaster....why are Sky listings correct and TiVo listings wrong??? :confused:
Because, if MotorsTV's Sky EPG was wrong it would cost them a lot of money. Not so with TMS. Just my guess and not base on anything :)

[scoopuk]

Postcode: S2
Service: Telewest Digital
Channel 138 Bravo
Date: 20/9/4
Time: 10:30 - 11pm

TiVo listings show "Downloaded" - but Bravo's own website, and digiguide show a programme called "Premiership Diaries"

See: http://www.bravo.co.uk/schedule/index.html?offset=2

[sanderton]

Originally posted by Toothy
That doesn't make any sense. :confused:

If Sky listings are provided by each channel/broadcaster and Tribune gets their listings direct from each channel/broadcaster....why are Sky listings correct and TiVo listings wrong??? :confused:

Becuse the system they use to upload the listings to the EPG, and the system they use to send listing to Tribune are evidently not the same.

The channels upload their listing directly to the EPG themselves, not via giving a set to Sky.

[lcsneil]

Postcode: W62
Service: SkyDigital
Channel 854 BBCR4FM
Date: 21st Sep
Time: 18.30 - 19.00

Originally posted by ozsat
The BBC radio listings seem to get updated after the tv stuff - and seem to be done by Wednesday.

The listings were updated today - so 'Hitchhikers Guide ...' is now there.

But still not correct as I thought this was meant to be a new series?

Original Air Date Mon 3rd Mar 2003
Genres Comedy, Science Fiction
Type Series
Channel 854 BBCR4FM
Showing Date Tue 21st Sep 18:30


Neil

[scoopuk]

Postcode: S2
Service: Telewest Digital
Channel 515 Sky Sports News
Date/Time: All

The listings are very out of date, I appreciate the channel mainly just shows nonstop sports news and hardly changes, but there are programmes like Soccer Saturday and Sky Sports News at Ten.

All Tivo's references to "Euro 2004 Report" are months old.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by lcsneil
Postcode: W62
Service: SkyDigital
Channel 854 BBCR4FM
Date: 21st Sep
Time: 18.30 - 19.00



But still not correct as I thought this was meant to be a new series?

Original Air Date Mon 3rd Mar 2003

Neil

The OAD there is only ever used by TiVo for a "First Run Only" season pass (to separate out old and new episodes both being broadcast concurrently, eg Simpsons on Sky One). So in this case it doesn't matter, only a tiny tiny fraction of your SP's need to be "First Run Only" and check the OAD. 3rd Mar 2003 would be the date Tribune first added this series to their master database, perhaps there was a run of repeats of the earlier episodes on BBC7 at that time.

I have the same problem with Five Live Formula One. I know it's not a solution for everyone but I download (yes download using a freeware tool called Net Transport, not stream) the episodes from the BBC's listen again website instead.

(Hi).

[cwaring]

Welcome back MrT! Where've you been? How've you been? etc :)

[mrtickle]

Busy. ok ta. Back to business!

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: The Film Programme
Time/Date of airing: Saturdays 17:30-17:54


This programme used to be called "Back Row" but it has been re-branded/re-launched by Radio 4 as "The Film Programme". Back Row is no more! Sat 4th Sep was the last ever "Back Row". (I've only just discovered this)

For the last two weeks "Back Row" has been in my ToDo list and then removed at the last minute, and the recording history says "no longer in programme guide". There is another series "Film Programme" which has no upcoming episodes.

To fix this please can you either
a) rename the "Back Row" series to "The Film Programme", or
b) rename the "Film Programme" series to "The Film Programme" and fix the guide data so that the Back Row series isn't being scheduled.

Ta.



Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: Just a Minute
Time/Date of airing: Until Sunday 26th Sep: Mondays 18:30-19:00, repeated the following Sundays 12:00-12:30


The Sunday re-run of each episode is missing from the Season Pass. TiVo has "I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue" in that timeslot instead which isn't right.

NB: Monday 20th / Sunday 26th is the last in the current season on Radio 4. This error has been here since the start of the season on July 12th - no-one else noticed? ;)



Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue
Time/Date of airing: From Mon 27th Sep: Mondays 18:30-19:00, repeated the following Sundays 12:00-12:30


See above - the Sunday 26th episode should not be here, it should be an episode of "Just a Minute".

The template for 27th Sep/3rd Oct is correct.


============
Are we any closer to Episodic guide data for (some) radio series? It could be pretty much automated with the Monday/Sunday repeats having the episode title of Monday's date. It just seems a shame that some Episodic data is being supplied (the description of every Just A Minute is currently "Nicholas Parsons hosts this verbal duel from Edinburgh", which was the Monday 6th Sep episode), but because the Season Pass isn't set as episodic it always overwrites the description of all the other showings (including the BBC7 archive episodes).

[sjp]

Originally posted by mrtickle

============
Are we any closer to Episodic guide data for (some) radio series? It could be pretty much automated with the Monday/Sunday repeats having the episode title of Monday's date. It just seems a shame that some Episodic data is being supplied (the description of every Just A Minute is currently "Nicholas Parsons hosts this verbal duel from Edinburgh", which was the Monday 6th Sep episode), but because the Season Pass isn't set as episodic it always overwrites the description of all the other showings (including the BBC7 archive episodes).



i think it's getting to the stage that we should consider ourselves lucky if radio4 listings are anywhere near accurate. if they are corrected it's no more than a few days in advance.

for example... the next 2 sundays have no mention of desert island discs whatsoever and the friday repeat episode data is the guest from august 1st. i fully expect next sundays episode to appear but with how many/few days before the broadcast?

again, if digiguide can get it right why can't tribune.

ENTERTAINMENT: Desert Island Discs
Channel: BBC Radio Four 854
Date: Sunday 19th September 2004
Time: 11:15 to 12:00 (Already shown)
Duration: 45 minutes.
Sue Lawley's castaway this week is the mountaineer and author Joe Simpson.
(New Series, Repeated Friday)

ENTERTAINMENT: Desert Island Discs
Channel: BBC Radio Four 854
Date: Friday 24th September 2004
Time: 09:00 to 09:45 (starting in 4 days)
Duration: 45 minutes.
Sue Lawley's castaway this week is the mountaineer and author Joe Simpson.
(Repeat)

ENTERTAINMENT: Desert Island Discs
Channel: BBC Radio Four 854
Date: Sunday 26th September 2004
Time: 11:15 to 12:00 (starting in 6 days)
Duration: 45 minutes.
Sue Lawley's castaway this week is wildlife campaigner Virginia McKenna.
(Repeated Friday)

ENTERTAINMENT: Desert Island Discs
Channel: BBC Radio Four 854
Date: Friday 1st October 2004
Time: 09:00 to 09:45 (starting in 11 days)
Duration: 45 minutes.
Sue Lawley's castaway this week is wildlife campaigner Virginia McKenna.
(Repeat)

Excerpt(s) taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.digiguide.com. Copyright ©1999-2003 GipsyMedia Ltd. Information copied from DigiGuide cannot be re-distributed, sold or used without prior written consent from GipsyMedia Ltd. All rights reserved.

p.s. welcome back, hope you haven't been in jail/hospital/iraq/manchester ;)

[aerialplug]

Postcode: ME6
Sly Digital

BBC Radio 7 - many programmes listed this week as "To Be Announced". Specific example - Day of the Triffids serialisation - I've now missed several episodes because of this.

[mrtickle]

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC Radio 4 (BBCR4FM)
Channel Number: 854
Programme Name: Quote Unquote
Time/Date of airing: From Mon 27th Sep: Mondays 18:30-19:00, repeated the following Sundays 12:00-12:30

Whoops, sorry. Please allow me to correct myself from the other day - this should be a new series of Quote Unquote, and not I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue.


============

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC 7 (BBCR7)
Channel Number: 881
Programme Name: The Harpoon
Time/Date of airing: Thursdays 14:00-14:30, repeated 21:00-21:30

This programme is missing from the guide data. The guide data has "The Sunday Format" which finished its run on 5th Aug so has been wrong since 12th Aug :(

[cwaring]

Originally posted by mrtickle
Whoops, sorry. Please allow me to correct myself from the other day - this should be a new series of Quote Unquote, and not I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue.

Now now! You really can't complain about TMS making mistakes if you can't even get the info right yourself :p :rolleyes: :eek: ;)

[mrtickle]

Indeed. I am hanging my head in shame as I speak. I stress that I'm not pointing the finger at Tribune, it is often something else in the chain. Just want to enable them to check with the source and end up with correct data!

(Hmm. Checking guide data is much less painful with a cachecard :D )

There are a few stations that seem to have little or no guide data - just wanted to check that this is known about?

On the Sky Digital lineup,
166 OVRLD - no guide data (Ah. Just looked. This probably doesn't need guide data!)
247 CLASSIC - Classics TV - no guide data
413 MOTORS - Motors TV (already posted about in this thread)
423 GOLFTV - Golf channel - no guide data
853 BBCR3 - BBC Radio 3 - the guide data runs out after Friday 1st Oct, same as BBC TV One/Two/Four. This is good! Personally I much prefer having no guide data in the third week than the system used for Radio 1/2/4/5/6/7 - guide data based on templates which are then overwritten (or not! :( ) with hundreds of updates closer to the broadcast date.

[Gadgeteer]

BL8 1JW
SKY DIGITAL
UK LIVING
Show: CHARMED
Date/time: ONGOING & FREQUENT (SEVERAL TIMES A DAY)

I have a season pass for this, for first runs only.

The data does not have any specific show information and so it gets treated as a first run.
Big problem, its on 4 times a day during the week and at weekends 7 times a day!!
I just seem to spend all my time deleting it out of my guide.

Latest ones I am deleting now are for Fri 8/10/04, Sat 9th, Sun 10th and Mon 11/10/04.
There were obviously earlier ones, but they have already been taken out.
If I don't catch it, Tivo misses a whole load of other season passes having a lower priority.

[cwaring]

I have previously reported this problem.

Have you tried just leaving them there. You might find that the correct programme's are removed nearer the air-date as the schedule is filled in with the correct info :)

[sanderton]

British Isles: A Natural History
BBC1
Wednesdays from the 29th

Not season passable. This is the most heavily promoted new BBC series of the new season!

[Adder]

Re: MOTORS TV

I've badgered in their web forums that their Head of Programming frequents, but further pursuasion/reminders to whoever normally supplies the listings at Motors might be useful.

I've not really used my TiVo since the Motors listings went as I really don't have the time to set up about 10 manual recordings a week... :(

Motors may have struggled for listings for a bit as they had a contractual dispute with a programme provider, this has now been resolved with the result that they will not be showing anymore Australian Motorsport this year. :(

Now they know this they should be able to firm up their schedules.

[Toothy]

Postcode : DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: BBC1 Scotland

Channel Number: 101

Programme Name: Reporting Scotland

Time/Date Of Airing: Weekdays @ 6:30pm

Problem: Generic Programme Title

I first listed this error months ago.......but nothing's been done about it. :(

TiVo has it listed as Regional News; Weather, the proper programme title is Reporting Scotland.

Digiguide has it listed correctly. :up:

[cwaring]

Postcode WF1
Platform: Telewest

Just checked mine and it's showing the same except it should be "Look North".

[c-h]

Originally posted by ozsat
The first two days are now listed.

Great, it is good to see the abc1 listing - now complete for two weeks. :)

DigiGuide (which is often ahead of the TiVo listings) doesn't have any details yet which is really poor. :( (If I'm wrong then please correct me.)

[Toothy]

Originally posted by Toothy
TiVo just has the generic Sport On Five programme data.

This is something that happens regularly with radio programmes within radio programmes......e.g. Talking Technology which is incorporated into the mammoth 4 hour broadcast of Up All Night on 5 Live on Monday mornings.


Talking Technology isn't listed as a separate programme, (although it is a separate 25 minute programme in its own right), DigiGuide lists it as follows......

SPORT: Up All Night
Channel: BBC Radio Five Live 855
Date: Monday 27th September 2004
Time: 01:00 to 05:00 (starting in 1 day)
Duration: 4 hours.
Stories from around the world. Including at 2.35 Tech Update with Phil Elliott; 4.50 Show Business with Peter Bowes in Los Angeles.


Why can't Tribune do the same???.....at least it gives me an indicator when it's being broadcast, (so I can set a Manual recording......last weeks edition was moved...so the Manual recording was duff :( ), even if it's not specifically listed as a separate programme.

I'll also include this as another example of poor guide data from Tribune.....

SPORT: Up All Night
Channel: BBC Radio Five Live 855
Date: Wednesday 29th September 2004
Time: 01:00 to 05:00 (starting in 3 days)
Duration: 4 hours.
Stories from around the world. Including at 2.35 The Cash Peters USA TV Slot; 3.05 Russian Round-Up.

Again, the Tribune listings don't list this info :( .....Cash Peters is always singing TiVo's praises, (albeit the US version), .....set a Manual Recording for that guy. ;) \0/

[SaintM]

Postcode : SO22
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 1
Programme Name: Match of the Day
Time/Date Of Airing: Sat 22.30 & Sunday AM
Problem: Repeats not being marked as such. A Season pass for MoTD is recording both episodes. This is exactly the same problem that The Premiership had (and which I reported twice with it not being resolved). Again, either mark the repeated Sunday morning episode as a repeat, or put it on another season pass. I am getting fed up with having to go into the 'To Do' list and delete the extra one. In fact I forgot to do it last night and so this morning the F1 GP was not recorded as TiVO was too busy recording the repeat of MoTD.

I'm not asking for a miracle here, just a way to get this silly and tedious problem resolved.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by SaintM
Postcode : SO22
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 1
Programme Name: Match of the Day
Time/Date Of Airing: Sat 22.30 & Sunday AM
Problem: Repeats not being marked as such. A Season pass for MoTD is recording both episodes. This is exactly the same problem that The Premiership had (and which I reported twice with it not being resolved). Again, either mark the repeated Sunday morning episode as a repeat, or put it on another season pass. I am getting fed up with having to go into the 'To Do' list and delete the extra one. In fact I forgot to do it last night and so this morning the F1 GP was not recorded as TiVO was too busy recording the repeat of MoTD.

I'm not asking for a miracle here, just a way to get this silly and tedious problem resolved. This was discussed at great length last season.

Tribune are right as 'Match of the Day' and 'The Premiership' are different versions in the repeat.

Perhaps you should complain to the broadcasters and ask them to change the title?

[Mike B]

Postcode: RG6
Platform: Freeview
Channel Name: ABC1
Channel Num: 15
Programme: (All programmes)

All showings of all programmes on this channel seem to have the OAD set for every episode to be the same as the first episode. This makes getting a SP to work for anything on this channel very hard, as each programme is shown 2 or 3 times per day. A first-run-only SP clearly won't work, and getting the SP to record repeats as well then that leaves 2 episodes of each every weekday needing to be manually deleted.

[pmk]

Originally posted by Mike B
A first-run-only SP clearly won't work, and getting the SP to record repeats as well then that leaves 2 episodes of each every weekday needing to be manually deleted.

Theres me hoping they were all different episodes if its the same programme repeated all day I hope they can stop repeats from recording otherwise I am going to be removing many duplicates from the To Do list.

[Mike B]

Originally posted by pmk
Theres me hoping they were all different episodes if its the same programme repeated all day I hope they can stop repeats from recording otherwise I am going to be removing many duplicates from the To Do list.

I've just had to remove about 30 duplicates of Sports Night from my ToDo list (2 per day x 5 days per week + Saturday repeats). There is no episode title, description or number for these.

:(

Lets hope this gets fixed asap...

[pmk]

Mike, Can you tell me how you know they are repeats? Is there a web site with the listings that confirm this? Cheers.

[Mike B]

To be honest, I'm guessing. I figured that they wouldn't show three new episodes per day and then another two back-to-back on saturday. Taking Sports Night as an example, that'd be 17 new episodes per week (and there's only 23 in a series).

I conceed that the Saturday episodes could be "new" ones though, as that'd make only 7 per week, meaning 3+ weeks to get through a series.

[OzSat]

'abc1' don't seem to have released any episode detail.

Even the Freeview EPG only has generic info.

[SaintM]

Originally posted by ozsat
This was discussed at great length last season.

Tribune are right as 'Match of the Day' and 'The Premiership' are different versions in the repeat.

Perhaps you should complain to the broadcasters and ask them to change the title?

I agree that they are not repeats. But that does not solve the problem with them being messed up for the end user.

I do not pay the broadcasters £10 a month for the data, I pay TiVO, and if given a choice between better usability or absolute accuracy I know what I would choose.

Please tell me who in their right mind would want both episodes recording?
As it stands the season pass for MoTD is flawed.

Accuracy is good, but not in exchange for usablilty!

[cwaring]

Originally posted by SaintM
I do not pay the broadcasters £10 a month for the data, I pay TiVO

Technically, you actually pay Sky Subscriber Services Ltd :p ;) :D

/me gives MrT his hat back

[Gavin]

Postcode: CM19
- Service Provider: NTL
- Channel Name: Sky One
- Channel Number: 140
- Programme Name: Brainiac :sciene abuse 2
- Time/Date of airing: Thurs 8pm Repeat 7pm Sat
- Problem encountered: Tivo records the first showing and the repeat on saturday. Will call into Tivo but thought I'd post here too.

[pmk]

Freeview ABC1 Channel 15

50% of the programmes are listed incorrectly can someone confirm they are having the same problem?

The information was gathered in a hurry reviewing the first 5 mins or so of the program as ABC1 seem to play intros to other programs before starting the actual program please check. Note shows are not always repeats throughout the day.

What TiVo Thought Was On, Time, What Was Actually On
The Sinbad Show 0600 Unhappily Ever After
Soul Man 0630 Nurses
Thunder Alley 0655 Sinbad
Brotherly Love 0720 Correct
8 Simple Rules 0745 Correct
Home Improvement 0810 Correct
Daddio 0835 Ellen
Nurses 1010 Correct (same as 0630)
Empty Nest 1010 Moonlighting
Unhappily Ever After 1100 Moonlighting (cont)
Home Improvement 1125 Unhappily Ever After
Daddio 1150 (box failed to changed channel - went to five instead)
8 Simple Rules 1215 Correct (different episode)
Home Improvement 1620 Correct (different episode)
8 Simple Rules 1645 Correct (same as 12:15)
Sports Night 1735 Correct

If anyone knows for sure what should be showing and what is a repeat of what could they post so I can manually fix my To Do list?

TIA

[NickDvl]

Yep, got the same problem with ABC1 here. The morning scheduling is bad - I missed the first Moonlighting episode yesterday, and Home Improvements was not shown at the correct time either :(

[OzSat]

ABC1 don't seem to have released any reliable schedules for publishers - and have changed the only list they did release.

Perhaps last minutes rights problems?

[whitebj]

When recording a problem, please provide all the following information:

- Postcode
GU22

- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.)
Sky

- Channel Name
BBC1

- Channel Number
101 (and terrestrial too)

- Programme Name
What Not To Wear

- Time/Date of airing
Weds 29 Sept 2004, 8pm

- Problem encountered
This is the start of a new series but wasn't picked up by my Season Pass. The text description for the programme on 29 Sept says 'new series'.

Note that there are repeats on UK Style (and +1) being broadcast too so I had set a first run only SP.

[sjp]

Originally posted by whitebj

- Channel Number 101 (and terrestrial too)

- Programme Name
What Not To Wear

- Time/Date of airing
Weds 29 Sept 2004, 8pm



fwiw, just in case you have a clash... BBC1 Scotland is broadcasting this at 7pm on a Monday (or TiVo thinks it is... haven't checked the recording yet).

my new BBC1 - way up north SP is doing OK.

late agreement with toothy... wife (honest) watched WNTW last night, Sky Digital ch 941

[Toothy]

Originally posted by sjp
fwiw, just in case you have a clash... BBC1 Scotland is broadcasting this at 7pm on a Monday (or TiVo thinks it is... haven't checked the recording yet).

TiVo recorded WNTW correctly from BBC1Scotland. :up:

[LJ]

Postcode: RH10
Service Provider: Sky
Channel Name: BBC1
Channel Number: 101
Programme Name: Rolf on Art
Time/Date of airing: Sun 3rd Oct 18:15
Problem encountered: Details listed are the ones for last week's show. (Tracker wants to cancel it because it thinks I've seen it before! Yeay Tracker! :) )

[pmk]

Originally posted by ozsat
ABC1 don't seem to have released any reliable schedules for publishers - and have changed the only list they did release.

Perhaps last minutes rights problems?

Done more digging on this and Radio Times seem to have got a much more accurate schedule (not 100% but certainly a good 90%!)

People have been referring to it since 21 Sep 04 http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=155461 so the data was available well in advance of launch.

Guess I need to hope that the data will get better as my guide data is still very poor for this channel it is recording programmes that are not even on.

TIA

[cwaring]

Programme: "Sex and the Settee"
Channel: five 105
Date: Thursday 30th September 2004
Time: 00:10 to 00:35
Duration: 25 minutes.
Five smart, sexy women gather in our luxury apartment to discuss their personal lives and give us their take on sexual likes and dislikes, their dreams and disasters.

Tivo has the wrong programme synopsis (something about a furniture factory) and the wrong programme length (20 mins).

Too late to do anything about it; just thought I'd mention it.

[cwaring]

Oh yes.. and the Celebrity Awards on ITV1 are scheduled until 9pm on Tivo and 9:30pm everywhere else :)

[JonO]

Programme: "Sex and the Settee"
Channel: five 105
Date: Thursday 30th September 2004
Time: 00:10 to 00:35
Duration: 25 minutes.

Duration is up to date in my TV guide, synopsis isn't - and now in my to do. So thanks for the heads-up ;)

[cwaring]

Mine *should* update in a bit then. Next call due 11:30pm :)

Edited to add:

Nope. Still showing same, wrong, time-slot. Very odd! How's that then? :confused:

[OzSat]

ABC1 listings should now be better - as long as your daily call was after around 7am today.

[KateP]

- Postcode ME16
- Service Provider Telewest
- Channel Name British Eurosport
- Channel Number 521
- Programme Name Motorcycling
- Time/Date of airing 1st October 10.45, 11.15, 12.00, 17.30
2nd October 9.00, 9.30, 10.00, 11.15, 12.30, 14.00, 15.00, 17.30, 21.45
- Problem encountered The programme guide has most of this schedule listed as To be announced or lists something else. Eurosport's uk website has up to date information. It would be good if this was corrected before the running of the Qatar motoGP on Saturday. I am not so worried about Friday's practice.

[pmk]

Originally posted by ozsat
ABC1 listings should now be better - as long as your daily call was after around 7am today.

Forced a daily call and listings are much better now. Many thanks.

[swuk]

Originally posted by KateP
- Postcode ME16
- Service Provider Telewest
- Channel Name British Eurosport
- Channel Number 521


I have pretty much the same issues. Last night checking TiVo's Eurosport listings for today, it had "To be announced" for most time slots, with a few programmes here and there. I'm in Telewest SW area.

A magazine TV guide that the misses had, had reasonably accurate information, so this data must have been available for at least a week.

[tefster]

No Hitchhikers Guide on R4 ?

Postcode: E4
Service: SkyDigital
Channel 854 BBCR4FM
Date: 5th October and 7th October
Time: 18.30 - 19.00 and 23.00 - 23.30

I've let 3 daily call updates run through, and I have guide data through the 20th, but the new series of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy seems to have disappeared from my guide data. On the Tuesday slot I have "The In Crowd", and on the Thursday slot I have "Radio 9 - Unknown".

Are others missing guide data for this week's episodes or just me ?

[Mike B]

Its not just you - its wrong on Freeview (postcode RG6) as well.

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by tefster
No Hitchhikers Guide on R4 ?

Postcode: E4
Service: SkyDigital
Channel 854 BBCR4FM
Date: 5th October and 7th October
Time: 18.30 - 19.00 and 23.00 - 23.30

I've let 3 daily call updates run through, and I have guide data through the 20th, but the new series of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy seems to have disappeared from my guide data. On the Tuesday slot I have "The In Crowd", and on the Thursday slot I have "Radio 9 - Unknown".

Are others missing guide data for this week's episodes or just me ?

Needless to say Digiguide is correct!

I suppose now that the BBC has sold its Technology (http://www.bectu.org.uk/news/bbc/nb0228.html) & infrastructure to Siemens I bet it is bound to get worse!

Neil

[yadda]

- Postcode - HG2
- Service Provider - NTL
- Channel Name - Channel 5
- Channel Number - 45
- Programme Name - All! - Tonight it was The Shield
- Time/Date of airing - 2nd October
- Problem encountered - Seems to have moved Channel 5 from 45 to 55 so poor TiVo is lost now!

Can we get an update to move Channel 5 from 45 to 55 please?

Ta muchly :D

[cwaring]

No-one seems to have mentioned that "The Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy" has disappeared from Tivo's BBC Radio 4 schedules. (904 on Telewest). As I'm going away for a while now, I have had to resort to a manual recording of something called "The In Crowd" as a way of recording it!!

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by cwaring
No-one seems to have mentioned that "The Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy" has disappeared from Tivo's BBC Radio 4 schedules. (904 on Telewest). As I'm going away for a while now, I have had to resort to a manual recording of something called "The In Crowd" as a way of recording it!!

*cough*

eeer try 2 posts or 4 posts up. OK it isn't Telewest but seems consistent across the platforms.


Neil
(actually the Beeb website ***ked up and put all 6 episodes on line so I have all 6 in Real Media format if anyone is interested.)

:)

[cwaring]

Knew I probably missed it :rolleyes:

[tefster]

I gave TiVo support a call this morning to report it also.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by tefster
No Hitchhikers Guide on R4 ?

Postcode: E4
Service: SkyDigital
Channel 854 BBCR4FM
Date: 5th October and 7th October
Time: 18.30 - 19.00 and 23.00 - 23.30

I've let 3 daily call updates run through, and I have guide data through the 20th, but the new series of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy seems to have disappeared from my guide data. On the Tuesday slot I have "The In Crowd", and on the Thursday slot I have "Radio 9 - Unknown".

Are others missing guide data for this week's episodes or just me ? I have, for several months now, had a Manual Recording for 6.30pm - 7.00pm, Mon - Fri.
There's usually something worth listening to in that slot, and it's easier (and more reliable) than setting up a dozen SP's.

[koogydelbbog]

Radio 1 (Freeview ch70) is still showing the old schedule - Peel, for instance, is still down as 10-midnight this wednesday but has been 11pm-1am for months.

(postcode W12)

[lcsneil]

Oh p**s flaps - all this talk of Hitchhikers and I forgot to set a manual recording (finishes in 1 minute!)

Bah - will have to grab the repeat on Thur.

Any idea when this is likely to be fixed?

Neil

[aerialplug]

Oh plonk. Hitchhiker's. Say no more. Next task - set up manual recording.

[roger_phillips]

Any chance TIVO could sort out it's Radio 4 listing for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, currently on at 18:30 on Tuesdays and 23:00 on Thursdays? What the heck is Radio 9 anyway. That is what is in the TIVO schedule!

Yes, I do use TIVO to record radio shows. I transfer them to cassette and play them in the car. It makes long journeys much more bearable.

[c-h]

Originally posted by roger_phillips
Any chance TIVO could sort out it's Radio 4 listing for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, currently on at 18:30 on Tuesdays and 23:00 on Thursdays? What the heck is Radio 9 anyway. That is what is in the TIVO schedule!

Yes, I do use TIVO to record radio shows. I transfer them to cassette and play them in the car. It makes long journeys much more bearable.

The first two episodes did show up in the guide (and I set a Season Pass). The first one only appeared a couple of days before it was broadcast. The second episode also worked OK, but tonight's episode was not recorded as it is no longer showing in the Radio 4 listings. Thursday night's repeat is also wrong! :mad:

I've set TiVo to manually record the repeat.

For reference:
- Postcode: NR10 4TB
- Platform: Freeview
- BBC Radio 4
- Channel 74
- Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- 18:30 06/10/2004
- Not in guide.. Episodes 1 & 2 (21/09 & 28/09) were!

[peterdgray]

Why are football programmes now listed with "American Football" as one of their genres? This is very annoying if you like American football but hate our football. :mad:

Episode Title
Episode Description
Episode Number
Duration 2:30
Original Air Date Sat 1st Jan 1994
Genres American Football, Sports Event
Type Series
Channel 908 BBC5LX
Showing Date Sat 2nd Oct 14:45

Episode Title Studio Show
Episode Description Checking on the celebrities after three days of training.
Episode Number
Duration 1:00
Original Air Date Wed 6th Oct 2004
Genres American Football, Reality, Sports Non-Event
Type Series
Channel 120 SKYONE
Showing Date Wed 6th Oct 21:00

[sanderton]

Series: Battlestar Galactica
Channel: Sky One/Sky One Mix

The guide data is in a right old mess with this one, with the series doubly orphanned, ie there are three series listed, all of which are actually the same one.

A single SP will not record all episodes.

Edit: the Saturday one looks like it might be an omnibus of the two earlier in the week? Hard to tell!

[cwaring]

Originally posted by sanderton
Edit: the Saturday one looks like it might be an omnibus of the two earlier in the week? Hard to tell!
Correct :)

[mrtickle]

It still needn't be a separate SP.

(edit: see comments below in a later post)

[sanderton]

Omnibuses should be separate IMHO.

But in this case there is a third entry!

[tefster]

(Ref HitchHikers)

>The first two episodes did show up in the guide (and I set a Season Pass).
>The first one only appeared a couple of days before it was broadcast. The
>second episode also worked OK, but tonight's episode was not recorded as
>it is no longer showing in the Radio 4 listings. Thursday night's repeat is also
>wrong!

It seems to have been fixed for next week (both days) but not for this
Thursday's repeat. Manual-recording time again I guess :(

[lcsneil]

Postcode: W
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: Radio 4 FM
Channel Number: 74
Programme Name: All

I don't seem to have any guide data after today (Wed 6th) for R4 all the others are OK though! e.g. R2, R3 etc

Is anyone else on Freeview suffering this problem?

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by lcsneil
Postcode: W
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: Radio 4 FM
Channel Number: 74
Programme Name: All

I don't seem to have any guide data after today (Wed 6th) for R4 all the others are OK though! e.g. R2, R3 etc

Is anyone else on Freeview suffering this problem?

Don't worry - you're not missing out much. The guide data on Sky Digital is very inaccurate this week and looks like we're back to the "6 week old data" problem that Radio 4 & 7 suffered from a couple of months back.

Obviously something's gone wrong at Tribune again.

[mrtickle]

I think I've worked out what is happening with Battlestar G.

Series 935481 contains only MV1464860000, which looks the TV-Movie shown on Sky Movies earlier this year. It's a standalone movie and shouldn't really be Season Passable any more than the TV Movie "Babylon 5: In the Beginning" would appear as an episode of B5.
Series 925577 (type "Miniseries") contains EP6185710001 and EP6185710002.
Series 935486 (type "Series") contains EP6976580001 episode title "33", (Mon 18th Oct 20:00) + repeats.

(Those series IDs are from my own TiVo, I can't remember which set of numbers are unique to me and which are universal! You can see the IDs with TiVoweb in the URL or with backdoors in the normal TiVo interface on the "Enter" key details screen.)

It may be that EP6185710001 and EP6185710002 are the same as MV1464860000 for people who don't subscribe to Sky Movies and who would otherwise never have seen the Miniseries, which is crucial to the plot. So you could set one-off recordings for those few, and a SP for the series proper starting on the 18th. According to http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/documents/bgepisodeguide.php , "33" is the first episode.



On the subject of orphaned SPs, I forgot to mention that very rarely it is correct to have two different SPs. There is a series on the Spanish channel TVEi (835 in the Sky EPG) called "Panorama". It's different to the BBC series of the same name and has a separate SP.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by mrtickle
I think I've worked out what is happening with Battlestar G.

Series 935481 contains only MV1464860000, which looks the TV-Movie shown on Sky Movies earlier this year. It's a standalone movie and shouldn't really be Season Passable any more than the TV Movie "Babylon 5: In the Beginning" would appear as an episode of B5.
Series 925577 (type "Miniseries") contains EP6185710001 and EP6185710002.
Series 935486 (type "Series") contains EP6976580001 episode title "33", (Mon 18th Oct 20:00) + repeats.

It may be that EP6185710001 and EP6185710002 are the same as MV1464860000

Correct, mrt. I said as much in another thread somewhere around here :)

[leejordan]

Postcode: KT8
Service Provider: NTL
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 2
Programme Name: Who do you think you are?

This Series is incorrectly listed as "This is my family" with a duration of 90 mins when it should be called "Who do you think you are?" for 60 mins.

Thanks,

Lee.

[leejordan]

Originally posted by leejordan
Postcode: KT8
Service Provider: NTL
Channel Name: BBC2
Channel Number: 2
Programme Name: Who do you think you are?

This Series is incorrectly listed as "This is my family" with a duration of 90 mins when it should be called "Who do you think you are?" for 60 mins.

Thanks,

Lee.

Sorry! I forgot to mention that the series starts on Tuesday Oct 12th.

Lee.

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by cwaring
It's take me a couple of mins, but I finally figured out what was wrong with the Tivo's "West Wing" E4 listings.

My SP for this is set to FR&RSP.

The imminent repeat (1245, Thurs) of last Tuesday's episode is WRONGLY listed as the first showing of the NEXT episode in the season. This means that it is NOT picking up the actual "first run" wp next Tuesday.

Manual changes to SP & TDL is probably the best idea!

Agggh have just spotted this post as I have discovered I don't have Episode 10 of Series 5 (The Stormy Present) but two copies of the previous episode as Tivo recorded this (incorrectly) and then didn't bother getting the proper one!

Anyone still have West Wing Series 5 Ep 10 - The Stormy Present or know when it might be repeated? (Does E4 do a batch catch up every month ?? - I kow it has multiple repeats during the week but it's too late for this now :( )


Neil

[Toothy]

FOR INFO ONLY

Postcode: DG1
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Motots TV
Channel Number: 413
Programme Name: Inside Grand Prix
Problem: Inaccurate programme description.

Someone at Tribune doesn't know their F1 or their geography. :rolleyes:

http://www.btinternet.com/~mil1401/Pix/jap.jpg

Of course DigiGuide has the correct programme details. :up:

DOCUMENTARY: Inside Grand Prix
Channel: Motors TV 413
Date: Saturday 9th October 2004
Time: 23:00 to 23:30 (starting in 53 minutes)
Duration: 30 minutes.
Inside Grand Prix is the perfect preview for the next Grand Prix on the schedule,
and this episode features the Grand Prix of Japan at Suzuka.

[lcsneil]

Postcode: W12
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: BBC2 102
Date Tue 12th Oct
Problem: Incorrect afternoon listings

Tivo listings are incorrect between 13:30 and 16:30

(I noticed this as my Tivo was intending to record 2 episodes of Working Lunch)

Tivo claims

13:30 Working Lunch
14:30 The Daily Politics
16:30 Ready Steady Cook


Digiguide, Radio Times & bbc.co.uk claims

13:30 The Phil Silvers Show
13:55 Film Doctor in Clover
15:30 Animal Park
16:30 Ready Steady Cook


Both back in sync by 16:30

Neil

[OzSat]

Originally posted by lcsneil
Tivo listings are incorrect between 13:30 and 16:30

(I noticed this as my Tivo was intending to record 2 episodes of Working Lunch)

Tivo claims

13:30 Working Lunch
14:30 The Daily Politics
16:30 Ready Steady Cook


Digiguide, Radio Times & bbc.co.uk claims

13:30 The Phil Silvers Show
13:55 Film Doctor in Clover
15:30 Animal Park
16:30 Ready Steady Cook I would check your daily calls are up-to-date - my TiVo lists the 'Phil Silvers' version of events!

[KevinHopkins]

Postcode: NG4
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: ITV1CEN
Channel number: 61
Programme name: Formula One Racing
Date: Sunday 10th October
Problem: Incorrect (?) description

Previously the live coverage of each Grand Prix itself had the word live in the description, e.g. British Grand Prix live, so a Wishlist could catch just the race itself. For both the Chinese and Japanese GPs the word "live" was missing. Can it return for the Brazilian Grand Prix which i think is on 24th October?

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by ozsat
I would check your daily calls are up-to-date - my TiVo lists the 'Phil Silvers' version of events!

Well 05:02 Sun 10th seems pretty up to date by me and it's still showing it incorrectly! (What time did yours update then?)

I'll check it again tomorrow morning to see if it corrected itself.

Neil

[OzSat]

Originally posted by lcsneil
Well 05:02 Sun 10th seems pretty up to date by me and it's still showing it incorrectly! (What time did yours update then?)

I'll check it again tomorrow morning to see if it corrected itself.

Neil That was too early for today's update - so you should see it in the next one.

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by ozsat
That was too early for today's update - so you should see it in the next one.

I've peaked too soon! :)

(Update - having forced a daily call and it has now updated it as per Ozsat's post along with the new BBC2 series - "Who do you think you are" - the highlighted programme of this week's schedule. (BBC2 9pm Tue).

Which bizarrely enough has an identical name to a 'make-over' programme on UKStyle. )



N.

[B33K34]

Postcode: SW2
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC2London
Channel number:2
Programme name: Who do you think you are
Date: Tuesday 12th October
Problem: different programme listed in Tivo Schedules

(edited for channel number to confuse the post below).

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by B33K34
Postcode: SW2
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC1London
Channel number:1
Programme name: Who do you think you are
Date: Tuesday 12th October
Problem: different programme listed in Tivo Schedules

Isn't that because it's on BBC2? (as per my post above yours.)

:D

(Ok so it wasn't shown on BBC2 either until the forced call on Sunday ;) )

Neil

[lcsneil]

Postcode: W12
Service Provider: Sky
Channel Name: Sky 1
Channel number:106
Programme name: Mile High
Date: Sunday 10th October (last night)
Problem: well not exactly a schedule problem....

.. but for those of you using Season passes and not got round to watching last night's episode Sky overran by 30 mins so unless you have a lot of endpad I suggest you make sure you grab one of the repeats during the week!

Otherwise you will miss 50% of it.

Neil

[lcsneil]

Postcode: W12
Service Provider: Sky
Channel Name: BBC1London
Channel number:101
Programme name: Have I Got News For You
Date: Friday 15th October
Time: 21:30
Problem: New series not being picked up

A new series of HIGNFY starts this Friday but last year's SP isn't picking it up - looks like it has a different Series number to others. I can only assume this is why it hasn't?

Neil

[the_hut]

This happens all the time. Be very careful what you do here, as if you set up a new season pass, Tribune often subsequently revise the programme id so that it shows up under the old season pass. The only way to reliably tell if it is going to record is to check the To Do List after your last daily call before the programme comes on

I have lost lots of programmes through this sort of error: Wife Swap and Survivor come to mind immediately

[sanderton]

BBC2 HIGNFY SP working fine here.

And the BBC 1 and BBC2 series have the same ID.

I think this is a case of Tribune fixing a split SP - maybe last series BBC 1 was on a different ID. I have a vague recollection that there was a series where the BBC 1 and BBC 2 showings were edited differently with BBC 2 extended, so they became two series in TiVos eyes.

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by sanderton
I have a vague recollection that there was a series where the BBC 1 and BBC 2 showings were edited differently with BBC 2 extended, so they became two series in TiVos eyes.

Yes you are right there Sanderton. The BBC2 Sat night repeat was supposedly more 'risqué' and of slightly longer duration.

So create a new SP and leave the old one in the list seems to be the recommendation!

(More SPs than I can shake a stick at - just hit 100 again having had a clear out recently)

Neil

[mrtickle]

Yes they were two series. The BBC called them by different names too, and the content was different - so in this case it was correct to have two separate SPs.
The 40-min? version was called "Have I Got a Little Bit More News for You".

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by Toothy
FOR INFO ONLY

Postcode: DG1
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Motots TV
Channel Number: 413
Programme Name: Inside Grand Prix
Problem: Inaccurate programme description.

Someone at Tribune doesn't know their F1 or their geography. :rolleyes:


True, but that is a little bit unfair given the history of this series! Some background: The guide data for Motors TV is generally patchy. This isn't Tribune's fault - it was often supplied too late if at all.

Many series don't have "episodic" data - so TiVo can't tell with series like Inside Grand Prix which episode is which. The 28-day no-rerecord rule, which normally filters duplicates, can't operate. So you'd get all the showings of the Japanese episode (and there were quite a lot!). Again, this is Motor TV's fault for not supplying good enough data.

Last week, for the first time ever, this series had episodic data! A major improvement, no need to manually go through and delete all the duplicates. This is so useful I can live with the odd typo :)

[Toothy]

Postcode: DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: BBC3

Channel number:115

Programme name: The Body Of Marilyn Monroe

Time/Date Of Airing: Mondays 9:00pm

Problem: Unable to set SP

Unable to set SP for these series of medical documentaries, presumably because of the title format.

If it was The Body Of...... then maybe a SP would work. Other programmes in the series are about JFK and Adolf Hitler.

[sanderton]

Tribune - thanks for fixing Hitchikers and British Isles A Natural History. Eventually. :)

[steveroe]

Postcode: HU1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: BBC3

Channel number:115

Programme name: Little Britain

Time/Date Of Airing: Tuesdays 9:00pm

Problem: This has now been retitled to New Little Britain so existing session passes will not record it.

[pahunt]

Originally posted by steveroe
Postcode: HU1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: BBC3

Channel number:115

Programme name: Little Britain

Time/Date Of Airing: Tuesdays 9:00pm

Problem: This has now been retitled to New Little Britain so existing session passes will not record it.

<Optimism mode>
Don't suppose they've got the OAD right have they
</Optimism mode>

[sanderton]

Originally posted by sanderton
Series: Battlestar Galactica
Channel: Sky One/Sky One Mix

The guide data is in a right old mess with this one, with the series doubly orphanned, ie there are three series listed, all of which are actually the same one.

A single SP will not record all episodes.

Edit: the Saturday one looks like it might be an omnibus of the two earlier in the week? Hard to tell!

Apologies to Tribune; they had it right:

Series 1: The mini series
Series 2: The mini series omnibus
Series 3: The new regualr series

[osd1000chiark]

Programme: The Archers
Postcode: CB4
NTL Channel 862, BBCR4FM

My Season Pass for The Archers has started recording the daily repeats as well as the first airing of each episode. It used to know which episodes were repeats of which and only record the repeat if I'd recorded something else when the original aired.

[sanderton]

Are you sure? Mine has never worked properly, so I have it set to Keep Only One.

[osd1000chiark]

Yes. It definitely used to manage to record each episode only once.

[c-h]

Postcode: NR10
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: five
Channel number:5
Programme name: Angel
Time/Date Of Airing: Tues 12 Oct 23:35
Problem: Seaon pass missed last episode in series

DigiGuide had Angel as 00:25 - 01:10. TiVo had 23:35 - 00:25 so I got Drastic Plastic instead.:mad:

[noel-pilot]

Postocde AL10
Service Provider freeview
Channel name Sky Travel
Programme name Baywatch Hawai

Regular airings showing in tivo listings however programmes recorded not baywatch hawai. having checked sky travel listings on their site and no episodes are shown

[Toothy]

Postcode: DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: PARCOM 2

Channel number: 128

Programme name: The New Statesman

Time/Date Of Airing: Mon 18 Oct 9:30pm

Problem: Wrong programme title

TiVo has this listed as New Statesman, which breaks an old SP I have.

The proper title is The New Statesman.

DigiGuide has the correct title. :up:

[Ian_m]

Postcode: SO50
Service: Freeview
Channel name: BBC1
Programme Name: Eastenders

My season pass for Eastenders is not going to record next weeks as it is a different season pass. Also a wishlist of "eastenders" fails to spot it as well. Programme guide data for next week only downloaded this morning.

[sanderton]

Probably not indexed yet - Eastenders looks OK here.

[Ian_m]

Probably not indexed yet - Eastenders looks OK here.
I will look tonight, as I will be dead if Eastenders doesn't record.

[lcsneil]

Easternders SP working OK here on BBC1LDN up to and including Fri 29th Oct

(All series 3358)

Neil

[Ian_m]

Eastenders is now correct, Sanderton was right, leave for an hour or two and it re-indexed OK.

[Toothy]

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Toothy


Programme Name: Five Live Formula One

Channel Name: Radio Five Live

Channel Number: 855

Time/Date of Airing: Each Fri 9.30pm

Problem: SP not catching every episode.




Still no nearer in getting a working SP for Five Live Formula One. :(
Tonight's broadcast of 5LF1 is not in my TDL :( so I've had to set a manual recording.

It's in the BBC website listings and several paper mag listings, so why is this SP always broken? :confused: :( :(

[steveroe]

After being called "New Little Britain" this week, the series has now reverted back to "Little Britain" for next week.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by steveroe
After being called "New Little Britain" this week, the series has now reverted back to "Little Britain" for next week. I think the BBC promoted the 'New' title to highlight the programme - the BBC listings have been changed around.

[Mr 999]

I think the BBC promoted the 'New' title to highlight the programme - the BBC listings have been changed around.

It's a good job that our subscriptions are funding a crack team of people to enter and edit listings, rather then a couple of monkeys with a copy of TV Quick and a OCR-supported scanner.

Oh.

[sjp]

Originally posted by Mr 999
It's a good job that our subscriptions are funding a crack team of people to enter and edit listings, rather then a couple of monkeys with a copy of TV Quick and a OCR-supported scanner.

Oh.

;) :up:

[VaguelyBarming]

Postcode: RG4

Service Provider: NTL

Channel Name: BBC4

Channel Number: 127

Programme Name: Tanner 88

Date/Time: Saturday 23rd October at 11pm, then Sunday 24th October - Thursday 28th October at 11pm and 11:35pm.

Problem: This is a series, and each showing is a separate episode, but the guide thinks it's one programme that's being repeated. Consequently I can't set a season pass.

[Toothy]

Originally posted by Mr 999
It's a good job that our subscriptions are funding a crack team of people to enter and edit listings, rather then a couple of monkeys with a copy of TV Quick and a OCR-supported scanner.

Oh.

At least if they did use a paper listings mag and a scanner....they would get the SP of Five Live Formula One correct, as it's listed every week in every mag I've seen.

Tribune....you suck. :rolleyes: :down:

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by Toothy
At least if they did use a paper listings mag and a scanner....they would get the SP of Five Live Formula One correct, as it's listed every week in every mag I've seen.

Tribune....you suck. :rolleyes: :down:

That makes the listings mags worse than Tribune, then. F1 aint on every week.

[Toothy]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
That makes the listings mags worse than Tribune, then. F1 aint on every week.
Indeed....but Five Live Formula One is always on every week during the F1 season......it's a discussion/chat show.

According to Tribune...there are no upcoming episodes.
http://www.btinternet.com/~mil1401/Pix/fivelive1.jpg

But look over here at a paper listings mag....it's on next week.

http://www.btinternet.com/~mil1401/Pix/papermag.jpg

But it doesn't exist according to Tribune. :rolleyes:

http://www.btinternet.com/~mil1401/Pix/fivelive.jpg

And finally, to shut-up all the Tribune fanboys...here's the guide data from DigiGuide. :up:


MOTORING: Five Live Formula One
Channel: BBC Radio Five Live 855
Date: Friday 29th October 2004
Time: 21:30 to 22:00 (starting in 6 days)
Duration: 30 minutes.
A look back at the highlights of a season in which Michael Schumacher and Ferrari retained their dominance.

[Mr 999]

If you've still got the TV guide or Digiguide to hand, would you mind telling me what programme is going to be on Channel 4 at 9.10 this evening? There's a 2hr 15 min gap in the schedules. I even did a manual call this afternoon to check I had the up to date data

It's bad enough to have gaps in the BBC 4 schedules, but to have missing data on the main 5 channels? Beggars belief.

PS I do apologise if it's a film called "To Be Announced" ;)

[Toothy]

Sorry I'm a wee bit late. ;)


FILM: K-PAX
Channel: Channel 4 104
Date: Saturday 23rd October 2004
Time: 21:10 to 23:25 (1 hour and 55 minutes left)
Duration: 2 hours and 15 minutes.
A new inmate in a New York mental hospital begins to demonstrate remarkable powers that seem to support his claim to be from a distant planet he calls K-Pax. The doctor responsible for his care is intrigued but believes there is a more credible explanation and that he must unravel to prevent his patient hitting a crisis. Based on a novel by Charles Brewer.
Director: Iain Softley
Starring: Kevin Spacey, Jeff Bridges, Mary McCormack, Alfre Woodard, David Patrick Kelly
(Premiere, Widescreen, Subtitles, 2001, 3 Star)

[Toothy]

FOR INFO ONLY

Postcode: DG1
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Motors TV
Channel Number: 413
Programme Name: Inside Grand Prix
Time/Date Of Airing: Sun 24/10 5:00am
Problem: No Guide Data

No guide data for MotorsTV means I can't set recording for Inside Grand Prix. :(

Yet again....DigiGuide provides the correct listings. :up:


DOCUMENTARY: Inside Grand Prix
Channel: Motors TV 413
Date: Sunday 24th October 2004
Time: 05:00 to 05:30 (starting in 5 hours and 7 minutes)
Duration: 30 minutes.
Inside Grand Prix is the perfect preview for the next Grand Prix on the schedule, and this episode features the Brazilian Grand Prix at Sao Paolo.

[Toothy]

Originally posted by Toothy
Postcode : DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: BBC1 Scotland

Channel Number: 101

Programme Name: Reporting Scotland

Time/Date Of Airing: Weekdays @ 6:30pm

Problem: Generic Programme Title

I first listed this error months ago.......but nothing's been done about it. :(

TiVo has it listed as Regional News; Weather, the proper programme title is Reporting Scotland.

Digiguide has it listed correctly. :up:

One month later....and still no proper programme title. :(

If Coronation Street or Eastenders where simply listed as Soap Opera instead of their proper titles....there would be an almighty row.

From DigiGuide..... :up:

NEWS: Reporting Scotland; Weather
Channel: BBC 1 Scotland 101
Date: Monday 25th October 2004
Time: 18:30 to 19:00 (starting in 1 day)
Duration: 30 minutes.
Regional news bulletin.
(Subtitles)

[orvi-wan]

Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: EX1
Channel name/callsign: CBBC
Channel Number: 616
Programme Name: Dick & Dom in da bungalow
Time/Date of airing: Sunday 10am

Tivo missed the recording as it was listed as "Chucklevision" from 8am til 11am, luckily I started recording manually 20 minutes after the start, otherwise my 6yr old girl would be chucking the Tivo out of the window.

[LJ]

Is it just my TiVo or are there only a week's worth of listings for BBC1, BBC4, BBCR3 and FIVE? Last successful call was 5am this morning. I've got Sky.

There also seem to be quite a few "To Be Announced"s on BBC4:

Tue 26th Oct 21:30 30
Fri 29th Oct 21:00 60
Fri 29th Oct 23:00 60
Sat 30th Oct 02:00 60
Sat 30th Oct 03:00 60

The Beeb website has programmes listed in those slots. Is it a BBC or a Tribune problem?

[OzSat]

Originally posted by LJ
Is it just my TiVo or are there only a week's worth of listings for BBC1, BBC4, BBCR3 and FIVE? Last successful call was 5am this morning. I've got Sky.

There also seem to be quite a few "To Be Announced"s on BBC4:

Tue 26th Oct 21:30 30
Fri 29th Oct 21:00 60
Fri 29th Oct 23:00 60
Sat 30th Oct 02:00 60
Sat 30th Oct 03:00 60

The Beeb website has programmes listed in those slots. Is it a BBC or a Tribune problem? FIVE and BBCR3 does seem to be short - but others have 13 days here.

I agree with 'To be announced'

[lcsneil]

Fine here as well.

You machine isn't still 'indexing' is it?

Neil

[cwaring]

'Casualty' started around 4 mins late yesterday. "No problem", says I (to myself as usual!) "I'll add five mins padding". Thing is, I turn to Live TV after Tivo stops recoding and it's still on!! So I record the next programme - 'Strictly Come Dancing' vote result, 10 mins - then come back to it. Huh? It's still on!! What the heck? End up having to record the first few mins of the next show too.

Finally, I check the EPG. 'Casualty', FORTY MINUTES???? Damn you Tribune!!! Good job I was in!!! :(

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by cwaring

Finally, I check the EPG. 'Casualty', FORTY MINUTES???? Damn you Tribune!!! Good job I was in!!! :(

Oh great! So those of us that werent in miss the ending. It's ALWAYS 50 mins what are the bunch of muppets playing at?

I am convinced the guide data is getting worse!

Neil

[lcsneil]

Provider: Sky Digital
Postcode: W12
Channel name: MTVUK
Channel Number: 440
Programme Name: ???????????????
Time/Date of airing: Mon 25/10 9pm

Digiguide says Straight Plan for the Gay Man
Tivo say Celebrity Breakups
MTV UK website doesn't bother itself with inconsequential details such as schedules afaics

Any idea what TV Quick and the cheap scanner says?

Update - OK it's a fair cop, TRIBUNE got it right; Digiguide was WRONG. Credit where credit is due!

[Toothy]

Looking through my SPM, I seem to have two SP for Wife Swap on C4. :confused:

http://www.btinternet.com/~mil1401/Pix/wifesp.jpg

One has no upcoming episodes, the other has four.....presumably one is for an old series, the other for the current series.

How is it possible to have two SP's for the same programme on the same channel?? And why didn't the old SP catch the new series??

:confused: :confused:

[steveroe]

Because internally they will have different series identifiers, it's wrong but it happens.

[pmk]

Not really an excuse for poor guide data but to stop this problem I converted to Wish Lists (either Title / Keywords / Advanced) many months ago. Most programmes have a unique title it is only the smaller ones that need a SP.

Title Wish List
"Wife Swap" (use quotes)

Still Use Season Pass as Title Wish Lists bring up many other programmes
24
ER
Friends

Probably not advisable if you have Sky as wish lists are cross channels but for Terrestial / Freeview you do not get many problems most can be sorted in 2 minutes on a Saturday/Sunday after new guide data arrives.

Its a long process going through all your old SPs but for my usage I never use SP as 99 times out of 100 the programme title is correct so you do not need to rely on the identifiers being correct behind the scenes for SP's to work.

Another advantage of wish lists is you can combine like programmes together and make them descriptive

e.g. Advanced Wish List for (set to OR i.e. either will be recorded, include the quotes):

"Top Gear"
"5th Gear"
"Fifth Gear"

Can all be handled in one Wish List entry.

HTH

[Mike B]

Provider: Freeview
Postcode: RG6
Channel name: BBC2
Channel Number: 2
Programme Name: Top Gear
Time/Date of airing: 25/10/04 23:20

I think the OAD for this is wrong as the description matches what was originally shown last night I assume it should be 24/10/04. Instead it is 09/11/99. The OAD for last nights original showing is correct.

[LJ]

Top Gear's showing the same symptoms on Sky too.

Looks like someone's updated the generic episode details (TmsId ends in 0000) with details of the first in this new series. All the episodes on UKTVPPL now say "New Series..." too.

Next Sunday's BBC2 showing is correct, but the Tuesday repeat is incorrect too.

[ramriot]

Hi,

This is definately not me, I really like watching Mythbusters but for the last week or so Discovery channel on TiVo has been getting the wrong times for this program. All I get is Great Biker Buildoff, and its not even an in terchange as GBB is not listed.

I have Telewest cable and their listings are correct for the program. Please Please would someone tell TiVo to get their finger out and correct the error.

[the_hut]

Originally posted by ozsat
I think the BBC promoted the 'New' title to highlight the programme - the BBC listings have been changed around.

Tribune obviously understood this... hence the season pass has been broken. The New Little Britain season pass will not now catch the rest of the series.

(Pity those without access to t'internet.)

[ponto]

- GL7
- Freeview
- BBC4
- 10
- Tanner 88
- Sat 23rd Oct 11.00pm -12.05 am daily till Thursday 28th
- Guide states all episodes are episode 1, in fact it is a series with 11 parts

[JonnyJackov]

Postcode: L4 7TQ
Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name: Discovery/discovery+1
Channel Num: 551/552
Programme: Mythbusters

As Mythbusters is one of my favourite programmes, I am a bit peeved that the last 4 weeks episode have all been missed due to incorrect guide data.
I have had 4 programmes about motorbikes instead.
Tivo just turned over about 15 minutes ago to record this weeks episode, once again it's a motorbike programme. On checking digiguide, I see it was actually on an hour ago, so that is five mythbusters tivo has now missed. Even the repeats in the TiVo listings are wrong.

Without wishing to go off on a moan, and as I cannot receive bbc, itv, ch4 or ch5, I rely on many of the other, less popular channels on sky. Over the last year, the guide data for these channels has got steadily worse, resulting in about 20 per cent my of recordings being incorrect, and many more being missed or recorded sometimes five or six times due to incomplete episode data. This really is quite annoying, and whilst I am grateful to recieve any listings at all, I, like most people pay 10 pound per month for a service, that, if it wasn't tivo, would not have been acceptable, and would have been cancelled a long long time ago.

I have to manually check around 50 per cent of my todo list on digiguide everyday now, and this kind of defeats the object of TiVo.

Sorry, just realised I am indeed moaning, and I really do love my TiVo, I also realise it's not all tribunes fault, but the way things are at the moment, the far inferior Sky+ is looking more and more attractive.

Cheers,
Jon

Sorry, first post and I thought I was putting it in the listing errors thread, maybe a moderator can move it for me - Thanks.

[Chris T]

Postcode: LE12
Platform: NTL
Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Num: 104
Programme: Green Wing

Tivo thinks this coming Fridays Green Wing is a duplicate of last week’s episode, although Saturdays repeat that has been removed from the listings would have had the correct description.