ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors

[sanderton]

Channel: ITVWEST
Date: Sunday April 11

Digiguide has:
22:25 2DTV
22:50 Creature Comforts

TiVo has:

22:30 2DTV
22:55 Creature Comforts

Dunno which is right.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by sanderton
Channel: ITVWEST
Date: Sunday April 11

Digiguide has:
22:25 2DTV
22:50 Creature Comforts

TiVo has:

22:30 2DTV
22:55 Creature Comforts

Dunno which is right. The Radio Times (http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsServlet?event=4&jspGridLocation=%2Fjsp%2Ftv_listings_grid.jsp&jspListLocation=%2Fjsp%2Ftv_listings_single.jsp&jspError=%2Fjsp%2Ferror.jsp&searchDate=11%2F04%2F2004&searchTime=22%3A00&channels=93%2C106%2C24%2C132%2C134%2C185) agrees with Digiguide.
However, given ITV's usual Sunday overrun, I think TiVo's timings will be closer to the actuality.

[Toothy]

OAD for Would Like To Meet on Channel 115 BBC3 is wrong.....it`s listed as 2004....it`s a repeat and I think it was first shown in 2003.

[ericd121]

Postcode - MK2
Service Provider - Freeview
Channel Name - BBC1
Programme Name - Messiah 2
Time/Date of airing - Sunday 11 April 2004 10:15pm to 11:15pm

TiVo won't record this as it has the same Prog ID as the 9:00pm to 10:00pm showing earlier the same evening.
To be fair to TiVo, The Radio Times (http://www.radiotimes.com/) states for the 9:00pm to 10:00pm episode, "Second instalment of a two-part thriller".
Messiah 2 is a repeat from last year, when, I suspect, the last episode ran 2 hours.
Still, a bit unfair on poor TiVo that Sunday 4th April 2004's episode was an hour long, and the second 2 hour episode was split, making 3 one hour episodes.

[ericd121]

Postcode - MK2
Service Provider - Freeview
Channel Name - BBC1
Programme Name - Messiah 2
Time/Date of airing - Sunday 11 April 2004 9:00pm to 10:00pm & 10:15pm to 11:15pm

Heads Up.
If you are planning to record this, check your To-Do List.
I checked my To-Do list this morning, and TiVo had removed the 9.00pm recording, presumably because it thought the 10:15pm recording I had set using "Record This Episode Also" was the same.
Now I've done "Record This Episode Also" on both, so fingers crossed. :rolleyes:

[lcsneil]

Shameless

Postcode - London
Service Provider - Sky
Channel Name - C4
Programme Name - Shameless
Time/Date of airing - Tuesday 13th April 2004 23:05

In a rush going away and havent fully checked but looks like my Shameless season pass isn't picking up Tuesday's episode on C4 as it is down as a duplicate.

Sure this can't be the case!

The Radio Times has it down as the last episode in the series as does Digiguide.

Wasn't this the one Tivo missed last time it was shown as well much to the annoyance of a lot of Tivo owners?


Neil

[cwaring]

Which kinda explains the error this time :D

[Adder]

This might not make it into the listings at such a late stage, but it has just been announced that the Champ Car World Series (formerly CART) will air live and exclusive this year on Motors TV (BSkyB 416 MOTORS).

This first broadcast will be:

Sunday 18th April
From 21:00 (full length TBA 2 hrs/2 hrs 30)
Champ Car World Series
"Round 1: Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach"

Announced on their website at www.motorstv.com .

[bobnick]

I was going to post that it'd been a great week for Tribune - I only saw a smattering of errors, and most of my shows taped with no problems!
Such a shame that I lost 10 minutes of Ant and Dec on Saturday night (ITV1) due to the listings being 10 minutes out. Out of the whole series of "Saturday Night Takeaway", I think only one episode has had the right data - it's the last episode in the series this week, so please can you make a special effort?

Also, Have I Got News For You returns, but Tivo thinks there's 2 different episodes a week (on BBC1 and 2), and that Angus Deyton will be hosting(!). The Saturday BBC2 showing is a repeat of Friday's BBC1 showing. Still, makes a change from the god-awful generic "joker in the pack" description that's annoyed me for at least 2 series!

Oh, and American Idol descriptions are all to pot (ITV2), which is really annoying - it's the No 1 US Show! For the last time - episodes which air during the week in the USA (Tuesday and Wednesday) are shown back to back in the UK a couple of days later - not weeks! So this Tuesday's and Wednesday's shows will be shown in the UK on Friday (and repeated over the weekend) - we will see the last 8 constestants sing for survival this week.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by bobnick
Have I Got News For You returns, but Tivo thinks there's 2 different episodes a week (on BBC1 and 2), and that Angus Deyton will be hosting(!). The Saturday BBC2 showing is a repeat of Friday's BBC1 showing. If HIGNFY follows last year's pattern, then Saturday's showing will be a remix of Friday's, with mistakes added, some jokes extended, and other jokes left out.

It's more of a Alternate Version / Director's Cut than a repeat.

It seems to me like the producers expect you to watch both edits, and they are both different enough to be enjoyable if you do.

[OzSat]

The new series is as the beginning of the previous series (the extras can a bit later) - BBC2 is currently a repeat and not a revised repeat.

[sjp]

plus friday nights HIGNFY is not showing up on my wishlist and the OAD is really ancient... have vague memories of this show being a problem in a similar vein in years past :(

edited to correct "data is really ancient" to OAD is... (like 16/5/1997, how's that for accuracy when the programme description states - back for a new series - or something similar (must improve memory beyond a the few seconds it took to get from tv to pc)

[OzSat]

My old SP has picked it up OK.

[sjp]

not got my old SP... if you wouldn't mind... try setting up a wishlist, UKGold eps. by the bucketload along with the 23rds episode but no sign (as of last nights dialup) of this fridays.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Adder
This might not make it into the listings at such a late stage, but it has just been announced that the Champ Car World Series (formerly CART) will air live and exclusive this year on Motors TV (BSkyB 416 MOTORS).

This first broadcast will be:

Sunday 18th April
From 21:00 (full length TBA 2 hrs/2 hrs 30)
Champ Car World Series
"Round 1: Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach"

Announced on their website at www.motorstv.com .

Well done guys, super quick work, this is now showing on UK TiVos! :up:

[OzSat]

Originally posted by sjp
not got my old SP... if you wouldn't mind... try setting up a wishlist, UKGold eps. by the bucketload along with the 23rds episode but no sign (as of last nights dialup) of this fridays. Done a title wishlist on "HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU" with auto-record.

It finds loads on UKG2, A few on UKGLD and it does setup recordings for BBC1 on both 16th and 23rd, and BBC2 on 17th (which really it shouldn't).

Are you sure it isn't clasing with something?

[Toothy]

Postcode : DG1
Service Provider : Sky Digital
Channel Name : BBCR4FM
Channel Number : 854
Programme Name: Money Box Investigates
Time/Date Of Airing : Tue 13/4 8:00pm
Problem: Unable to set SP for this special series of MB...although a SP is set for the regular MB programme.

EDIT: The OAD is also wrong...it`s listed as 2003. A series of programmes regarding topical financial advice and issues is hardly likely to be a repeat.

Channel Name : BBCR4FM
Channel Number : 854
Programme Name : Word Of Mouth
Time/Date Of Airing : Fri 16/4 4:00pm
Pronlem : Guide data is wrong. This 3rd episode of an 8 part series is still showing guide data of the 1st episode.

Of course....the Sky EPG is showing the correct data.......why can`t TiVo. :confused:

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Toothy
Of course....the Sky EPG is showing the correct data.......why can`t TiVo. :confused:

Becuase it was a last-minute schedule change which didn't have tome to make it through the Tribune system? (One possibility)

[bobnick]

Originally posted by cwaring
Becuase it was a last-minute schedule change which didn't have tome to make it through the Tribune system? (One possibility)

Not exactly likely though, is it - have you examined the errors Toothy's reporting? I doubt the BBC were planning to repeat episode 1 after playing the second episode last week :D

[OzSat]

Originally posted by Toothy
Postcode : DG1
Service Provider : Sky Digital
Channel Name : BBCR4FM
Channel Number : 854
Programme Name: Money Box Investigates
Time/Date Of Airing : Tue 13/4 8:00pm
Problem: Unable to set SP for this special series of MB...although a SP is set for the regular MB programme.

Channel Name : BBCR4FM
Channel Number : 854
Programme Name : Word Of Mouth
Time/Date Of Airing : Fri 16/4 4:00pm
Pronlem : Guide data is wrong. This 3rd episode of an 8 part series is still showing guide data of the 1st episode.

Of course....the Sky EPG is showing the correct data.......why can`t TiVo. :confused: The Sky EPG does not carry any radio data - the now banner may have - but there is no advance data for radio on Sky.

[Toothy]

Originally posted by ozsat
The Sky EPG does not carry any radio data - the now banner may have - but there is no advance data for radio on Sky.

My apologies....I meant the banner. :o :o :D

[sjp]

Originally posted by ozsat
Done a title wishlist on "HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU" with auto-record.

It finds loads on UKG2, A few on UKGLD and it does setup recordings for BBC1 on both 16th and 23rd, and BBC2 on 17th (which really it shouldn't).

Are you sure it isn't clasing with something?

nope no clash... just a straight NON AR WL of which the first 2 hits are UKG* and the 3rd hitting the 23rds episode followed by stacks more UKG* repeats.

i thought this was "strange" but as i'd caught it manually (and having seen no other bum data reports) gave it no more thought until ths post above.

[warrenrb]

Upon viewing 'Upcoming Episodes' of Frasier, I see that after maybe a month or so of improved Paramount listings, we are heading back into 'generic description' territory (and my wishlist getting 4 duplicate episodes a day.....)

sigh.... I was good while it lasted I suppose.....

[b166er]

Originally posted by warrenrb
Upon viewing 'Upcoming Episodes' of Frasier, I see that after maybe a month or so of improved Paramount listings, we are heading back into 'generic description' territory (and my wishlist getting 4 duplicate episodes a day.....)That's not good, but slightly better than the situation presently with Seinfeld on paramount. Although the episode info is not generic, the times are wrong. My upcoming episodes list on my Seinfeld SP on Paramount 127 shows that it's shown at 12:30pm, 7:00pm and 11:25pm daily. That's wrong, it's 1:30pm, 8:00pm and there's no late showing.

I've deleted the SP and set a manual recording for 1:30pm every day. It'll look stupid in my "Now Playing" list when it shows I recorded Frasier, I'll just have to ignore that and realize it's Seinfeld :(

I hope one of the Frasier's you record every day is actually Frasier :)

[sdunne]

Yep, Paramount Comedy appears screwed. At the moment, (12:47 on Tuesday 14th) Tivo says Seinfeld 12:30-13:00, and Spin City 13:00-13:30.

Sky says it's a double bill of MASH. Guess who's correct !

In this particular case my Tivo updated itself at 4:27 this morning. I'm now forcing a daily call through to see if any program changes come through or not. Otherwise it looks like a load of changes for Paramount either haven't been passed onto Tribune (but were to Sky), haven't been applied to their database or haven't been redistributed onto us.

Whatever the reason, it's pretty piss poor.

Stephen

[bobnick]

Look what the Americans get!

The Tivo Mail function has been used in the US to warn people that the schedules are wrong, following late changes due to the presidential address.
This was posted in the US area of Tivo Community:
Hi folks,

Just as a heads-up, we're sending a message (below) to all standalone boxes regarding tonight's pre-emptions due to the (currently airing) presidential news conference. Your DVR will receive the message when it next calls in to the TiVo service. However, you won't receive updated program guide data until after tomorrow morning (due to the time it takes us to receive and process program guide data).

For standalone units, we're also resetting the thirty-day rule database entries for American Idol (Tuesday and Wednesday) and tonight's episodes for 24 and Happy Families. That means that as long as you've deleted the incorrect showings for those episodes from Now Playing, they should re-record automatically when they are re-aired. However, as the message says, it's important to check your To Do list to be sure that you get the shows you want. Due to the timing, we do recommend a Manual Recording for Wednesday night's American Idol.


What are the odds that Tivo will reset the 30/28 day rule for Cold Case this Thursday (presuming that they don't replace it with "Rebecca Loos" in time (Sky One, 10pm, Thursday)? And why won't they do it when Tribune screwup by listing the same episode of CSI Miami two weeks in a row?

[the_hut]

Where do all the deleted posts go from this thread as and when it is tidied up? Is there a link to some sort of archive thread?

[bobnick]

something like this, you mean? (It's in the first post) ;)
ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51725)

[bignoise]

Originally posted by sdunne
Otherwise it looks like a load of changes for Paramount either haven't been passed onto Tribune (but were to Sky), haven't been applied to their database or haven't been redistributed onto us.
I think the main reason is that the listings on the Paramount website are all out by an hour. Unfair to blame Tribune for this, really.

[OzSat]

Paramount still have problems providing listings - the one's I have been provided (and I guess the one Tribune also have) are all one-hour out.

[the_hut]

Originally posted by bobnick
something like this, you mean? (It's in the first post) ;)
ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51725)

Duh! Sorry.

Anyway, here's another one which will make its way into the archive eventually:

Programme Title: Little Britain
Channel: BBC 3
Times: Various
Platform: Sky
Postcode: CM13

I have an existing season pass for BBC3/Little Britain which is not picking up currently showing episodes. I have had to set up a second season pass for BBC3/Little Britain which DOES pick up the episodes, so now have two apparently identical SPs on the Season Pass Manager.

Don't know why this should be the case? Some sort of programme ID screw up?

[zz9pa]

Seems to have been wrong this week - 'taping' minder...

If I set it to record Rosanne it seems to to get it - so it seems to be an hour out.
Paramount 2 seems ok..

[cwaring]

Daily from Monday April 26, Sky One are showing re-runs of Season 1 of "Scrubs" in an afternoon slot; 13:45.

At the moment, however, because there is no specific episode data, only a generic programme description, all these episodes are being scheduled to record.

Now, while writing this I have just realised of a way around it. I can simply move my "Neighbours" SP above my one for "Scrubs". This doesn't solve the problem for other, more sensible, people who don't watch stupid Aussie soaps :)

Closer to the time, if Sky does release actual episode data then this problem should disappear but I just thought it worth a mention.

[Zaichik]

Source: Sky
Channel: 124 Bravo

The morning schedules have been wrong for a couple of weeks. TiVo thinks that Gamer.tv is still on at 9am, when in fact it has been moved to 10am, with CHiPs on at 9. This presumably means that other bits of the schedule are wrong too.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by Zaichik
Source: Sky
Channel: 124 Bravo

The morning schedules have been wrong for a couple of weeks. TiVo thinks that Gamer.tv is still on at 9am, when in fact it has been moved to 10am, with CHiPs on at 9. This presumably means that other bits of the schedule are wrong too. I received the new schedules today - although they show it changed two weeks ago.

[cwaring]

Can you tell Tribune that the data for "Buffy" will be seriously out of sync unless they change it as follows.....

The episode that was supposed to be on last night, "The Killer In Me", will now be shown in TWO WEEKS and will carry on from there.

This is due to last week's episode being postponed (pre-empted in US-TV-speak!) and shown last night.

Thanks.

(PS I suppose I should I call Tivo CS for this as well?)

[OzSat]

Is this the 'Sky' or 'BBC' Buffy?

[cwaring]

BBC. Sky aren't showing it at the mo'. For once ;)

I know it won't affect actual recordings 'cos they ain't First-Runs, but would just be nice to have the correct ep descriptions :)

[OzSat]

Paramount and Bravo now seem OK.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by cwaring
Can you tell Tribune that the data for "Buffy" will be seriously out of sync unless they change it as follows.....

The episode that was supposed to be on last night, "The Killer In Me", will now be shown in TWO WEEKS and will carry on from there.

This is due to last week's episode being postponed (pre-empted in US-TV-speak!) and shown last night.

Thanks.

(PS I suppose I should I call Tivo CS for this as well?) According the the current BBC schedules for 30th April - the episode will be 'The First Date'. This are the revised schedules.

Until the BBC amend the schedules - then I suspect Tribune will stick to that.

[the_hut]

Originally posted by cwaring
Can you tell Tribune that the data for "Buffy" will be seriously out of sync unless they change it as follows.....[snip]

(PS I suppose I should I call Tivo CS for this as well?)

As you have continually reminded other users on this forum (in various tones of voice), I suppose you better had. Don't worry, the telephone costs are very reasonable, and if you don't call up, then you have no rights to complain.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51725&perpage=40&pagenumber=72

[cwaring]

Originally posted by ozsat
According the the current BBC schedules for 30th April - the episode will be 'The First Date'. This are the revised schedules.

Until the BBC amend the schedules - then I suspect Tribune will stick to that.

Sounds about right. It's actually "First Date", but close enough :)

[cwaring]

Originally posted by the_hut
As you have continually reminded other users on this forum (in various tones of voice), I suppose you better had.
What's that saying about not telling others to do something you wouldn't do yourself? :)

Don't worry, the telephone costs are very reasonable, and if you don't call up, then you have no rights to complain.
Indeed. However, I forgot to do so before I came here (in Knaresborough again!) but it looks like it's all in hand anyway ;)

Anyway, by politely asking Ozsat (who knows about this stuff) first, I have saved myself a call and some money :D

So :p to you and your sarcasm :eek: :)

[Toothy]

Any ideas on what happened here??

I have a SP for my regional ITV1 news, Lookaround, weekdays at 6:00pm on ITV1BOR.

Today it recorded at 5:00pm, the programme was Catchphrase but was titled Lookaround.

I did a manual recording at 6:00pm and the recording was titled Granada Reports but was actually Lookaround.



:confused:

[cwaring]

It's called a 'guide data error'. There's a thread about it on here somewhere :eek: ;) :D

[Richardr]

On Thursday night, ITV1 will be showing the Newcastle UEFA Cup game.

Several programmes are cancelled, and Murder City is now wrapped around the news, starting at 9:45.

[cwaring]

You beat me to it, Richard :)

The schedule is:
19:00 Emmerdale
19:30 UEFA Cup Semi-final
21:45 Murder City
22:30 ITV News
23:00 Murder City
00:00 Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho

Ozsat! Please remind Tribune that "The Bill" now needs to be put back by one episode. Thanks! :)

[OzSat]

Originally posted by cwaring
You beat me to it, Richard :)

The schedule is:
19:00 Emmerdale
19:30 UEFA Cup Semi-final
21:45 Murder City
22:30 ITV News
23:00 Murder City
00:00 Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho

Ozsat! Please remind Tribune that "The Bill" now needs to be put back by one episode. Thanks! :) As with 'Buffy' - Tribune will only do this if instructed by ITV.

But I'll ask then to check it.

The revised schedules from ITV1 today match the episode listed on TiVo for 28th April - "DC Terry Perkins goes undercover in prison ..."

[bobnick]

Originally posted by ozsat
As with 'Buffy' - Tribune will only do this if instructed by ITV.


Are we all wasting our time telling Tribune then? It seems bizzare that they won't accept any mistakes that have been spotted by end users.

Will they reset the 28 day rule for the Bill episode missed?

[OzSat]

If the BBC and ITV are indicating that episodes are not changing - then you'll complain if TiVo change them and the broadcasters do not!

There is still a week for ITV to decide if they will slot in the missing episode later. BBC may also do this with Buffy.

[pgogborn]

Originally posted by cwaring

00:00 Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho
O.K. I can stick ITV, for marketing purposes, naming a prog "Agatha Christie's Poirot". They put up the money and Poirot is (was) not Christie's most famous creation.

I know that the original posters for the film carried the strap "Alfred Hitchcock's" above Psycho - along with the name of the leading actors

I know that there was a 1998 remake.

However, I think that it is dumbing down too far putting "Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho" into a television listing.

I doubt there are many people who will watch a film because it is by Hitchcock do not know that Psycho was directed by him.

I will be intrigued to know if /when ITV transmit the inferior 1998 remake, it lists it as "Gus Van Sant's Psycho" so that Hitchcock fans tuning in will not be disappointed.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by ozsat
If the BBC and ITV are indicating that episodes are not changing - then you'll complain if TiVo change them and the broadcasters do not!

There is still a week for ITV to decide if they will slot in the missing episode later. BBC may also do this with Buffy.

Yes, but in the cases where ITV say over the air that "the episode will now be shown next week" it would be nice to think that Tribune would respond to our feedback - as there's numerous examples of missed shows due to the time taken for UK schedule changes to make their way over to the US.

As for "Agatha Christie's Poirot", it's nice to see that Tribune stick them all into the original Poirot season pass...

I think Psycho is a one-off; it's part of run of Hitchcock films shown in the same slot each week, and the others (Rope, Shadow of a Doubt) aren't as well known - it's just an easy way to indicate they're not the normal ITV1 late night 'fodder!'

[OzSat]

ITV have now revised their listings and Tribune has the new details.

But the BBC are still running the same episode of Buffy - so perhaps the have dropped the missed one? I know the series follows on - but when has that stopped mis-scheduling?

The next scheduled episode is correctly titled 'First Date' on TiVo - the BBC have it listed as 'The First Date'.

It is also 'First Date' listed in the 20th April update to the BBC's Buffy site.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by ozsat
ITV have now revised their listings and Tribune has the new details.


Does Tivo think the last episode of the Bill was broadcast correctly? If so, will Tribune automatically* reset the 28 day rule so it will tape it 'again' correctly?

*well, without further prompting from end users!

[OzSat]

Originally posted by ozsat
ITV have now revised their listings and Tribune has the new details.

But the BBC are still running the same episode of Buffy - so perhaps the have dropped the missed one? I know the series follows on - but when has that stopped mis-scheduling?

The next scheduled episode is correctly titled 'First Date' on TiVo - the BBC have it listed as 'The First Date'.

It is also 'First Date' listed in the 20th April update to the BBC's Buffy site. And the BBC have now released the following week's schedule which will have 'Get It Done' screened - so still no sign of any re-scheduling.

[manolan]

Originally posted by ozsat
ITV have now revised their listings and Tribune has the new details.

But the BBC are still running the same episode of Buffy - so perhaps the have dropped the missed one? I know the series follows on - but when has that stopped mis-scheduling?

The next scheduled episode is correctly titled 'First Date' on TiVo - the BBC have it listed as 'The First Date'.

It is also 'First Date' listed in the 20th April update to the BBC's Buffy site.

Am I being really dumb? I know the Buffy page has that episode listed for this week, but the BBC2 schedule shows Snooker (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings/programme.shtml?day=friday&service_id=4228&filename=20040423/20040423_2335_4224_32164_50)

[OzSat]

The next episode is due on 30th April.

[cwaring]

I've only just noticed that the times for shows this evening on five are all wrong. Yeah, it's short notice, but at least I tried :)

The schedule is as printed in TV listings guides. If you don't have one, here's a list:

7.00 Charmed
7.50 News
8.05 Martial Law
9.00 CSI: Miami
9.55 Law & Order

From 10.55, Tivo is correct.

[aerialplug]

I'm SO annoyed I've missed the first 10 minutes of CSI Miami ... I don't normally complain about missed starts, but this was something that all the listings seemed to be accurate about... and CSI is something I watch every week without fail *with padding* :( :(

[cwaring]

Yeah. It's been ages since this type of 'total collapse' happened. I always wonder what causes it. I mean, if a listings mag - printed the previous week - can get it right, why not Tribune?

[OzSat]

Originally posted by cwaring
Yeah. It's been ages since this type of 'total collapse' happened. I always wonder what causes it. I mean, if a listings mag - printed the previous week - can get it right, why not Tribune? There has been a problem with FIVE listings updates from Chaqnnel 5 for a few weeks now.

For some reason I get some amendments which Tribune do not - they get some amendments they I do not - so I think it likely that some don't get to either.

Five are aware that recently they have been having some problems with their schedule updates - and they have been changing things around.

The times which TiVo carried were the times issued by FIVE when they changed the 5.30pm film from Madeline to Columbo: Etude in Black. I still have the amendment from FIVE with the times listed as TiVo has them - it was sent out last week.

But the later amendment which changed to the line-up used - seems not to have been actioned. Whether it was missed or not received I would not know.

[andyjenkins]

Anyone notice the incorrect guide data for BTCC on Motors.TV today ? Well, its not wrong - but just plain confusing. Theres abou 5 programmes on today, all with the genre of 'chat', and none have the details of which ones are the actual races.

[dsbowskill]

W4
Freeview
ITV1
Channel 3
2DTV
0115 on Saturday 24th April

On Saturday morning Tivo was adament that '2DTV' was on ITV1 at 0115. It even recorded it for me.

However, as was listed in the Radio Times, what was shown was an episode of 'Undeclared'.

Now how can the Radio Times, printed nearly 2 weeks in advance can get it right, when Tivo's daily EPG can get it so wrong?

And while I'm at it, why is some of the programme data so poor, particularly with BBC Radios 4 and 7? I know the BBC produce this info, because it's on their website, days in advance.

Thanks a bunch Tivo. I've now missed 2DTV What a pointless feature the series pass is in these situations. Can I get a refund on this month's subscription?

[gyre]

Yup, my daughter has been berating me for 2DTV not recording too :)

-- gyre --

[SaintM]

Postcode: SO23
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: ITV
Channel Number: 3
Programme Name: The Premiership
Time/Date of airing: Sat nights/Sun mornings
Problem encountered:
The Premiership is repeated on Sunday mornings in a shorter version.
The season pass for this is picking up both episodes.
Either make it two seperate season passes or stop it from recording the repeat.

This is the third time i have reported this now and still nothing.

Does this thread have any real function, or should I call up the TiVo phone number to report such problems?

At the moment it seems that only selective problems are dealt with via this forum :(

[cwaring]

Originally posted by SaintM
Does this thread have any real function, or should I call up the TiVo phone number to report such problems?

At the moment it seems that only selective problems are dealt with via this forum :(

Though Tribune are aware of this thread and do, supposedly, take note of the comments and errors reported in it, the only official way to report errors is by calling Tivo CS on 0870 241 8486.

I take it you have missed all the numerous previous posts (usually made by me :)) on the subject? :D

[cwaring]

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29736

Mods. You might want to merge this!

BTW, you didn't 'miss' it. It hasn't been on since the 14th :)

[OzSat]

Originally posted by SaintM
The Premiership is repeated on Sunday mornings in a shorter version.
The season pass for this is picking up both episodes.
Either make it two seperate season passes or stop it from recording the repeat.
If you have two SPs - which one would the Sunday and Monday night highlights go with?

The way TiVo is handling it is is one of two different ways possible - either can be seen as correct or incorrect.

It it was split then somebody else would complain.

[SaintM]

Originally posted by ozsat
If you have two SPs - which one would the Sunday and Monday night highlights go with?

The way TiVo is handling it is is one of two different ways possible - either can be seen as correct or incorrect.

It it was split then somebody else would complain.

I currently have two season passes, one for 'The Premiership' and one for 'The Premiership on Monday'.

The episode on Sunday morning however is just 'The Premiership', which is marked as the same series as what is shown on the Saturday night.

So those two season passes get me 3 episodes a week, 2 of the weekend highlights and 1 of the monday night 'chatty' show.

If the weekend season pass was split then people who wanted both the Saturday night and the Sunday morning cut down version (I guess there must be people out there who may theoretically want to do that) would be able to use two Season passes to get both showings.

As it stands there has to be manual involvment to remove the Sunday morning episode every week, which I don't recall used to have to do before the last 6 months or so.

But at the end of the day it is correct as they are both episodes of 'The Premiership' and they are different, it's just that in this situation it is a bit rubbish at the same time. :(

[manolan]

Originally posted by ozsat
There has been a problem with FIVE listings updates from Chaqnnel 5 for a few weeks now.

For some reason I get some amendments which Tribune do not - they get some amendments they I do not - so I think it likely that some don't get to either.

...snip...



Amazing that they cause this number of problems.

For some time now, it seems that the 5 line-up changes on the TiVo almost every single Saturday. Seeing so many cancelled programmes in the Recording History means I've been checking each and every one of them for a while. Unfortunately, Tribune had been on top of it and I had just stopped bothering!

[OzSat]

Originally posted by cwaring
Can you tell Tribune that the data for "Buffy" will be seriously out of sync unless they change it as follows.....

The episode that was supposed to be on last night, "The Killer In Me", will now be shown in TWO WEEKS and will carry on from there.

This is due to last week's episode being postponed (pre-empted in US-TV-speak!) and shown last night. Are you sure of your episode titles?

Just had a call from the BBC and they have checked their transmission details and say that 'The Killer in Me' was transmitted (as rescheduled) at 25.10 on Friday 16th April (25.20 in Wales).

The next episode to broadcast is 'First Date' which was also rescheduled and will now be on 30th April.

[steveroe]

Ozsat, your clock seems to have 25 hours!

[OzSat]

A lot of tv schedules continue to run beyond 2359.

So 2510 on a Friday is 1.10am on a Saturday morning.

Many people get confussed by 1.10am on a Saturday - as it isn't clear if its 1.10am on a Saturday morning or 1.10am on a Saturday night.

2510 on a Friday is always 1.10am on a Friday night.

[steveroe]

Interesting!

At what "time" would they start quoting the Saturday time again?

e.g. 26.10 is 02:10, when do they stop saying 2x.xx and start saying 0x.xx

(If you see what I mean?!)

[OzSat]

Different channels do it different ways.

It is usually only seen in schedule updates to make it really clear where the change has to be.

Most tv channels run their day from 6am to 5.59am.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by ozsat
Are you sure of your episode titles?
Well, I was at the time, but not any more :confused:

[colint]

Charmed on Living

- Postcode - RM1
- Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) - NTL Digital
- Channel Name - Living
- Channel Number - 111
- Programme Name - Charmed
- Time/Date of airing - 11am; 4.15pm; 5.15pm
- Problem encountered - The descriptions for the 4.15 and 5.15 are the wrong way around so tivo will record 11.00am and 4.15pm when it should actually record 11.00an and 5.15pm. The 4.15pm showing is a repeat of the 11.00am showing. The cable epg is showing the correct information. Very frustrating as I am missing an episode a day and I cant do anything about it. This seemed to start last Thursday

[OzSat]

Originally posted by colint
Problem encountered - The descriptions for the 4.15 and 5.15 are the wrong way around so tivo will record 11.00am and 4.15pm when it should actually record 11.00an and 5.15pm. The 4.15pm showing is a repeat of the 11.00am showing. The cable epg is showing the correct information. Very frustrating as I am missing an episode a day and I cant do anything about it. This seemed to start last Thursday The episode titles do not seem to fully match the schedules.

As you say there are editions at 4.15pm and 5.15pm - with 11am currently showing the 4.15pm version.

On 4th May this will change and the 11am programme will be the 5.15pm version. Perhaps the changeover has been misread somewhere?

[manolan]

Originally posted by ozsat
Are you sure of your episode titles?

Just had a call from the BBC and they have checked their transmission details and say that 'The Killer in Me' was transmitted (as rescheduled) at 25.10 on Friday 16th April (25.20 in Wales).

The next episode to broadcast is 'First Date' which was also rescheduled and will now be on 30th April.

This seems right to me.

[panache_blues]

Has no guide information at all.... None! Any ideas?

[panache_blues]

Probably should have mentioned, thats on Telewest channel 501.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by panache_blues
Has no guide information at all.... None! Any ideas? He's right you know! :confused:

[OzSat]

Charmed and 'Premiership Plus' should now be OK.

[aerialplug]

Programme name change: Eariler on in the week, the programme showing on 9:00 on BBC2 7th May was identified as "Peter Ackroyd's London".

Overnight, it's been renamed to" London: The Biography - Fire and Destiny".

The season pass I booked earlier on in the week seemed to have transferred to the new name - but he problem is still the name. Fire and Destiny is the title of the first episode in a 3 part series... This could mean that the seaon pass will only record the first programme.

Postcode: ME6
Sky Digital

[cwaring]

Have you checked the SP for next week's episode? Is it there? Are you lloking for problems that aren't there? :)

[LJ]

Originally posted by aerialplug
Programme name change: Eariler on in the week, the programme showing on 9:00 on BBC2 7th May was identified as "Peter Ackroyd's London".

Overnight, it's been renamed to" London: The Biography - Fire and Destiny".

The season pass I booked earlier on in the week seemed to have transferred to the new name - but he problem is still the name. Fire and Destiny is the title of the first episode in a 3 part series... This could mean that the seaon pass will only record the first programme.I just forced a daily call and listings for the 14th have arrived - the series has been renamed again to "London: Fire and Destiny", but both episodes 1 and 2 are in the same series.

Now why did the Beeb put it on opposite HIGNFY?!

[Adder]

Platform: BSkyB UK
Channel: 432 WRSTL

Times: ALL

Problem:

Many thanks to the listings guys for finally adding The Wrestling Channel, but sadly this weekend the channel drastically changes their schedule and broadcasting times so the listings TiVo has are now wrong. :(

The new schedule is here:

http://www.thewrestlingchannel.tv/schedule.html

NOTE: Teleshopping now airs between 9am and 12 noon.

[OzSat]

The person who was doing the guide for Digiguide gave up as he found the channel was updating the schedule too late for Digiguide to be kept up to date.

[Adder]

Previously there have been small anomalies with the published schedules due to tapes not arriving, and a couple of programmes on the previous schedule swapped slots for ratings reasons.

This new change to the schedule includes a change to the channels running hours to run now from 6am - Midnight rather than 9am - 3am and a lot of shows have been shuffled and this has been a changed planned for some weeks.

If Tribune could use the new template schedule it'd be appreciated as the current TiVo schedule will not be of that much use except where it happens to be the same as the new schedule.

Apparently the channel will be working with Digiguide also to ensure more accurate listings.

[cwaring]

According to my TDL, I had a new (will be recored, double-ticked) episode this Monday at 1:25am. However, in the SP, this ep showed as a repeat of last Thursday's, which is eminently more sensible. Epsecially given the fact that no other episode is currently repeated!

Edited for spelling of "anomaly". (Being a big Sci-Fi fan, you'd think I knew how to spell that, wouldn't you ;))

[bignoise]

Out of interest, why do ITV1 listings for Meridian nearly always have Granada's regional programmes in them? (e.g. Granada Reports)

[OzSat]

Originally posted by bignoise
Out of interest, why do ITV1 listings for Meridian nearly always have Granada's regional programmes in them? (e.g. Granada Reports) When this happens, it is often corrected the next day - but it hasn't this time.

It has been reported!

[steveroe]

The Spanish Grand prix qualifying and race next weekend (ITV) will not currently be picked up by existing "F1" season passes. Tribune in their wisdom have set these as one off shows outside the season pass.

Will call customer services later.

Edit: Called CS, they will pass it on to Tribune, but they cannot guarantee it will be fixed by the weekend.

[Adder]

Of course if you have Sky you could just watch the British Touring Cars live from Silverstone and the Le Mans Endurance Series live from Monza on Sunday on Motors TV rather than watch Schumacher romp of into the distance and score his fourth Spanish GP win in a row. ;)

[kitschcamp]

The Spanish is always the dullest race of the year (at least whilst it's been at Barcelona), it would be tempting... :D Maybe Tribune are doing us a favour ;)

[Lillie]

- SO53
- Sky Digital
- Paramount Comedy channel-
- 127
- King of Queens
- 14:55 03/05/04
- Tivo and Paramount channel are out of sync. Tivo thinks King of Queens is on from 14:55 - 15:25. It's actually on from 14:30 - 15:00. Radio Times and Sky are correct.

This happens continually with Paramount comedy meaning I miss episodes of Seinfeld and King of Queens for about 2-3 weeks at a time while Tivo finally catches up. I have complained to the customer services dept about this just now - they couldn't care less!

[browellm]

NG13
Freeview
BBC R4
74
Desert Island Discs
Sunday/Friday airings

Programme guide stuck on Angela Georghiu every week.

[ingouk]

Postcode: CR2 area
Channel MTVUK (440) on Sky
total f****up today and if i remember the last few days also.
Tivo says Punkd' should be on now for one hour and then Viva La Bam for one hour but mtvuk is showing 1 hour curse of the osbournes and 1 hour i want a famous face.
how many mistakes does tivo have to make with the guidedata to get a refund?

[bobnick]

Originally posted by ingouk
how many mistakes does tivo have to make with the guidedata to get a refund?

It depends how affected you are - if you've missed more than a few shows due to Tribune's mistakes, ring Tivo up and ask for a month's credit to be put on your account. They may refer you to a supervisor, but it can be done - I've had it offered to me (although I didn't bother taking it - but it seems to be the most effective way of getting Tribune's performance tightened up, as Tivo UK can't hide the credits from Tivo USA).

(and when you ring them up, would you mind telling them that American Idol on ITV2 has lots of generic data, so multiple showings are being recorded each week? cheers!)

[cyril]

Formula One Racing Season pass might not pick up saturday/ sunday's Spanish GP!

It's now called F1: Spanish Grand Prix.

[JNLister]

The Wrestling Channel listings are now active and correct, so thank you to anyone reading who had any input :-)

[OzSat]

Originally posted by cyril
Formula One Racing Season pass might not pick up saturday/ sunday's Spanish GP!

It's now called F1: Spanish Grand Prix. I think this has been fixed.

[kitschcamp]

Nope, Sunday is fixed but Saturday is still a separate event. At least it is for ITV Central (DE74).

[bobnick]

Good old Tribune!

Here in London both Saturday and Sunday are in the correct Formula One season pass.
However, the Tuesday night replay is in a seperate season pass called F1 Spanish Grand Prix.
The Monday night highlights are in an entirely different season pass which is also called F1 Spanish Grand Prix. Grr!

[GarySargent]

Originally posted by bobnick
Good old Tribune!

Here in London both Saturday and Sunday are in the correct Formula One season pass.
However, the Tuesday night replay is in a seperate season pass called F1 Spanish Grand Prix.
The Monday night highlights are in an entirely different season pass which is also called F1 Spanish Grand Prix. Grr!

Sounds ideal to me as I want the Sat and Sun races but not the highlights or reruns.

IMHO there should be four seperate season passes: Qualifying (Sat), The race live (Sun), Highlights (Mon), Rerun (Tue).

You could then pick up Season Passes for the bits you are interested in.

[steveroe]

Tribune are having a hard enough time keeping one SP accurate, let alone four!

[OzSat]

Originally posted by GarySargent
Sounds ideal to me as I want the Sat and Sun races but not the highlights or reruns.

IMHO there should be four seperate season passes: Qualifying (Sat), The race live (Sun), Highlights (Mon), Rerun (Tue).

You could then pick up Season Passes for the bits you are interested in. That will mean more Season Passes then winners in the season :)

[bobnick]

Well indeed. The rerun is just a repeat of Sunday's show (it used to have the adverts replaced with the race action) so should have the same episode id. Highlights are on sunday and monday, so should also have the same id.
Whatever the best course of action is, having 3 shows under "Formula One" and another two under two different season passes both entitled "F1 Spanish Grand Prix" is not the way to do it!

And don't get me started on the artifical nature of the competition in BTCC either ;)

[lcsneil]

- W6
- Sky Digital
- Sky One mix
- 24
- 21:00-22:00 08/05/04

Well I seem to be getting multiple recordings of 24 and looking at the description it's not hard to tell why!

Episode Title 1:00AM - 2:00AM
Episode Description Jack tries to determine the reason for a deadly explosion.
Episode Number 102
Duration 1:00
Original Air Date Sun 10th Mar 2002
Channel 107 SKY1MIX
Showing Date Sat 8th May 21:00


Surely even the Yanks know we are on Season 3!!!

Needless to say Digiguide is correct.

Channel: Sky One Mix
Date: Saturday 8th May 2004
Time: 21:00 to 22:00
Duration: 1 hour.
Day 3: 1.00am-2.00am. Series 3, episode 13.

This isnt the first instance of this happening either. I do end up usually with at least 2 copies of each week's 24

Neil

[cwaring]

Next week's finale episode is not being picked up by my FROSP. I think this is a knock-on from the pre-emted episodes a couple of weeks ago. I sugges you check your own SP if you have one.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by bobnick two weeks ago
As for "Agatha Christie's Poirot", it's nice to see that Tribune stick them all into the original Poirot season pass...

If, like me, you were wondering why today's Poirot is neither in Now Showing nor Recording History, it's because Tribune have screwed up again and put the show in a new season pass - "Poirot: The Murder of Roger Ackroyd".
Their consistency knows no bounds as the next episode is back in the normal "Poirot" season pass.
I've missed the first hour, and I'm now more confused than normal!

[Mike B]

I came across this problem, and am now thinking I should have put this issue in here, rather than starting a new thread:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?threadid=174152

Mike

[Toothy]

Postcode: DG1

Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: BBCR4FM

Channel Number: 854

Programme: The Food Programme

Time/Date Of Airing: Mon 10/5 4:00pm

Problem: Wrong guide data

For the past four weeks, the guide data has been identical for this repeated airing of The Food Programme....I presume the data for the FR on the previous day is identical too.

Of course, the Sky banner has the correct details.....why can't Tribune??

[OzSat]

Tribune generally just provide titles for radio series in the UK - unlike in the US where nothing is provide.

So titles are a plus.

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by ozsat
Tribune generally just provide titles for radio series in the UK - unlike in the US where nothing is provide.

So titles are a plus.


Whereas I agree that having listings for BBC Radio 4 and R7 is a huge plus, it would be nice if the listings were as rich as the TV listings. Apparently, according to this post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=1802205#post1802205), the BBC offered the data to Tribune, but they refused to use it.

[sunscreem]

Postcode: AB22

Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: JAZZFM

Channel Number: 917

Programme: Hed Kandi - with Mark Doyle

Time/Date Of Airing: Saturdays 1 - 6 am

Problem: Start time no longer correct

Sadly, the Hed Kandi session on Jazz FM is now an hour shorter - it starts at 2am - but the guide data is still picking it up at 1am.

[aerialplug]

Sky Digital, ME6, Challenge TV.

Who Wants To Be A Millionaire listed on 13:00 on 13th May on Chellenge TV, but not showing. What's more - it RECORDED AS A SEASON PASS, despite me not having a season pass for the programme on this channel (I have one on ITV1 & ITV2).

[ericd121]

Postcode - MK2
Service Provider - Freeview
Channel Name - ITV1
Programme Name - Trouble in Paradise
Time/Date of airing - Now = Thursday 13th May 2004 - 9pm

Replaced at no notice by
Holiday Homes from Hell (A subtle difference!:rolleyes: )

Such short notice that itv.com were still highlighting the orginal listed prog alongside its replacement!
http://www.dixon.ws/art/itv.gif

[Toothy]

Postcode : DG1

Provider : Sky Digital

Channel Name : ITV1

Channel Number : 103

Programme Name : Lookaround

Time Date/Of Airing : Weekdays at 6:00PM

Problem : Wrong start time

TiVo thinks my regional ITV1 news programme starts at 6:05PM, but it starts at 6:00PM.

This all started a few days ago when there was a political party broadcast, from 6:00PM - 6:05PM.

Ever since then my SP has been 5 minutes out.

I have had to manually adjust the SP to start 5 minutes early to catch the start of the programme.

EDIT: On the subject of regional news programmes....is there any reason why my ITV1 regional news programme is listed by its name Lookaround....but my regional news programme on BBC1....Reporting Scotland.....is listed as Regional News And Weather

:confused:

[pmk]

A late heads up. If you record Friends off Channel 4 18:00 tonights episode is not being picked up. It is the 2nd parter of "The One In Barbados". HTH

[OzSat]

Originally posted by Toothy
Postcode : DG1
Provider : Sky Digital
Channel Name : ITV1
Channel Number : 103
Programme Name : Lookaround
Time Date/Of Airing : Weekdays at 6:00PM
Problem : Wrong start time

TiVo thinks my regional ITV1 news programme starts at 6:05PM, but it starts at 6:00PM.

This all started a few days ago when there was a political party broadcast, from 6:00PM - 6:05PM.

Ever since then my SP has been 5 minutes out. According the the official schedules from ITV - the schedules for Border are correct on TiVo with further party polical broadcasts scheduled for most nights over the next two weeks.

Border has them listed at 6pm and Grampian/Scottish at 6.25pm.

The same is listed in the Sky EPG with Lookaround starting at 6.05pm.

And watching Border at 6pm - its ... A Party Politcal Broadcast.

Lookaround seems to start at about 6.03pm - but you'll never get ITV to admit that in their listings.

[Toothy]

Yep...it's recording correctly now. :)

I've just checked View Upcoming Episodes and all but one start at 6:05PM, in the next few days.....I think it's a good idea then, to start it 2 minutes early, if it begins at 6:03PM

This may be where I was confusing a guide error....missing the first 5 minutes...where it was actually the programme starting 2 minutes early.

[digital_S]

:o If anyone is that interested in the New Series of Big Brother... :rolleyes: It's labeled as "Big Brother: Live Launch Show" So, presuming you still have an SP for BB, it won't pick it up! :rolleyes:

[Gavin]

Originally posted by digital_S
:o If anyone is that interested in the New Series of Big Brother... :rolleyes: It's labeled as "Big Brother: Live Launch Show" So, presuming you still have an SP for BB, it won't pick it up! :rolleyes:

Can I get and Anti season pass so it won't record this even if the wife requests it to?

:D

[Toothy]

Postcode : DG1

Provider : Sky Digital

Channel Number : 136

Channel Name : GMM

Programme : Trucks 3

Time/Date Of Airing : 21/5 9:30PM

Problem : No option to set SP for this new series

[pmk]

BBC3
Strictly Come Dancing On Three
Time around 20:00 each night
Repeat 6+ hours or so later in the early hours each morning

I think these programs may have the same ID or something as many of the shows next week say they will not record as there is already a recording in the To Do list or last 28 days. As they are new shows it can't be the 28 day rule and I can find no entries in the To Do.

[kitschcamp]

BBC and ITV listings only seem to go up to this Friday 28th May (DE74). Is there a known problem?

As far as I can tell the daily call is dialling out and connecting, but no listings for BBC or ITV have appeared.

[cwaring]

I'm surprised at you, kit :)
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176578
That said, if people will post in seperate threads, what can we do ;)

[kitschcamp]

I guess I expected that if it was a nationwide problem, that someone would have noticed already and posted here... I've been far too busy digging and planting 700m2 with fruit and veg to spend much time watching the TiVo recently (it's become an Electric Monk) let alone reading about it :D

[OzSat]

There is a nationwide problem - but you should still 'phone CS if you are not receiving any data!

[sanderton]

Bggr; I was going to pull my cachecards out to send to HealyDave, but I can't if the guide data is going to run out.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by ozsat
There is a nationwide problem - but you should still 'phone CS if you are not receiving any data! What happens then? Are we put on a list to be fixed?
He asked, posting to the board rather than actually phoning... :rolleyes:

[steveroe]

Ozsat, please can you clarify:

Do we all need to phone CS even though we know there is a problem?

[OzSat]

Yes - we may know there is a problem - but the more people that call in, the better. Sometimes it is apparent there is a problem - but nobody reports it.

It helps to identify if the problem is related to perticular areas - and reconfirms its a major problem (or not).

[lcsneil]

Originally posted by ozsat
Yes - we may know there is a problem - but the more people that call in, the better. Sometimes it is apparent there is a problem - but nobody reports it.


Sorry being VERY lazy but the number to call, Very Nice Moderator is... ??

I know it's an 0870 number ( why cant they have a normal National one that is far CHEAPER to call - mumble mumble )...


Neil

[OzSat]

Originally posted by lcsneil
Sorry being VERY lazy but the number to call, Very Nice Moderator is... ?? In the FAQ :D

[cwaring]

... and you're usually so helpful, Oz :)

0870 241 8486

[dsloper]

Postcode : GL1

Provider : Telewest Digital

Channel Number : 105

Channel Name : Channel 5

Programme : CSI

Time/Date Of Airing : 25/5 9:00PM

Problem : First Air Date is set to last month, hence first run SP will not work

[cwaring]

Ahhh! For once, I never thought to check the OAD :( Wondered why it was going to record "Angel" instead!!

[andyjenkins]

Postcode : MK6

Provider : Sky Digital

Channel Number : 413

Channel Name : Motors.TV

Programme : All

Time/Date Of Airing : Any

Problem : Since the Sky manouvere of the Sports channels, there has been no schedule listing for Motors.TV.

[Toothy]

Originally posted by cwaring
... and you're usually so helpful, Oz :)

0870 241 8486

SayNoTo0870 (http://www.saynoto0870.com/), unfortunately there is no number for TiVo CS. :(

[Mr 999]

Originally posted by digital_S
:o If anyone is that interested in the New Series of Big Brother... :rolleyes: It's labeled as "Big Brother: Live Launch Show" So, presuming you still have an SP for BB, it won't pick it up! :rolleyes:


Tivo have tried to fix it, but have bodged it! They put it into the wrong Big Brother season pass - 'big brother live'. its a good job i checked it or i would have been well miffed.

i'm in my free trial at the minute, but the listings data is so ****e i can't see me paying for the service.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by Mr 999
i'm in my free trial at the minute, but the listings data is so ****e i can't see me paying for the service. I must admit, I can't recall any progs that I would have missed in the last week due to poor data.

Can you give examples? :confused:

[whitebj]

Comedian and Goodies afficionado Phill Jupitus talks to Graeme Garden, Tim Brooke-Taylor and Bill Oddie about the enduring popularity of The Goodies, more than twenty years after the last episode was made. (Lifted from the Radio 4 listings on the BBC website)
Postcode - GU22
Service Provider - Sky
Channel Name - BBC Radio 4
Channel Number - 854
Programme Name - No Fixed Abode, Cricklewood
Time/Date of airing - Tuesday 1 June 2004, 11:30am - 12:00 noon
Problem encountered - This is the second of a two-part series but Tivo shows it as a repeat of the first part broadcast on Tuesday 25 May

[maubp]

Anyone else seeing a problem with Coupling series four on BBC3 and the Monday/Sunday repeats?

The guide data seems to be getting the descriptions right, but Tivo is recording the repeated showings as if they were different episodes.

[shanew]

Originally posted by pmk
BBC3
Strictly Come Dancing On Three
Time around 20:00 each night
Repeat 6+ hours or so later in the early hours each morning

I think these programs may have the same ID or something as many of the shows next week say they will not record as there is already a recording in the To Do list or last 28 days. As they are new shows it can't be the 28 day rule and I can find no entries in the To Do.

My parents are seeing the same problem.

I've found that they all have the same original air date which is also not allowing us to setup a season pass.

They are having to record them all manually.

[cwaring]

Tivo is currently not listing Part 2 of the "Charmed" Season Finale which DigiGuide has listed correctly for Thursday June 10 @ 8:00pm.

I have just called Tivo CS and they have confimed that the Sky EPG is also showing "The Restaurant" instead of "Charmed".

She said she'd pass it on to be looked at, but I just thought I'd mention it in here also.

Of course, the +1 and Saturday repeats are also affected!

[cwaring]

Also just reported:

Gamer.TV on Bravo
Supposed to be one show per day repeated, not two shows.

Click Online on BBCN24
One show repeated not four shows per week-end
This one's been a problem for *ages* :)

[the_hut]

If anyone from Tribune is reading this thread, you might want to take a look at the three posts on this other thread, commencing with this one.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=1904844#post1904844

As a synopsis, they highlight a problem with Channel Highlights as well as providing the most likely explanation for why the problem arises, although it hasn't been fixed for several months. If you could take a look, then we would be much obliged.

[LJ]

Service Provider - Sky
Channel Name - BBC1
Channel Number - 101
Programme Name - The Sky at Night
Time/Date of airing - Sun 6th June, 23:55
Problem encountered - Showing not being picked up by existing SP

[cwaring]

WF1, Telewest AD

For the second week running, my FROSP for "CSI" (five) is being over-ridden by the lower-proiority FROSP for "Angel" (Sky One) due, I presume, to the OAD being wrong on "CSI". This weeks, for example, is 16/04/04.

Changing the SP to a FR&R sorts the problem :(

[gregh]

anyone managed to work out how to record Touring cars?

I had an SP for British Touring Cars, then ITV called it Speed Sunday, so have an sP for that and deleted touring cars one. Then this Sunday it appears they called the show speed sunday after F1, but the title was BTC!!

cheers,

Greg

[Toothy]

Originally posted by Toothy
Postcode: DG1

Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: BBCR4FM

Channel Number: 854

Programme: The Food Programme

Time/Date Of Airing: Mon 10/5 4:00PM & 31/5 4:00pm

Problem: Wrong guide data

For the past four weeks, the guide data has been identical for this repeated airing of The Food Programme....I presume the data for the FR on the previous day is identical too.

Of course, the Sky banner has the correct details.....why can't Tribune??

As above....I think it has been seven weeks now and the guide data has been identical every time.

:down:

[ericd121]

Originally posted by Toothy
As above....I think it has been seven weeks now and the guide data has been identical every time.

:down: For a while it seemed like this week's Food Programme had next week's programme details. :rolleyes:

I don't see it as a problem, though, as I record it every week anyway.

[sunscreem]

- AB22 8FR
- Sky Digital
- Bravo / Bravo+1
- 124 / 125
- Alias
- Sun 6th 21:00

It seems Bravo are messing around a little with the alias repeats - but more specifically the 21:00 showing on Sunday ( and the following Sunday) seem to have been tagged up with old program data.

[sjp]

re: the above alias... isn't sunday the first showing??? anyhoo it seems to be little worse than bravo "messing around"...

the Sky EPG has a world cup qualifier finishing at 21:15 when alias starts, Tivo has the footy up to 22:00 (iirc) and sky and tivo have differing matches. DigiGuide agrees with the Sky EPG (on timings and teams) so it looks like the problem may be with tribune.

and, according to DigiGuide, part 2 of sundays alias is on at 18:00 on Monday 7th June, 19:00 has been the first repeat (as opposed to any first showing of part 2) showing in the recent past.

confused??? yup, well everthing's normal then.

and, if i could jump in on the Radio4 info above... the data for Desert Island Discs seems to be a little squiffy atm. by my reckoning recordings could be missed (i've had to force on recording so far) as opposed to getting too many recordings.

[OzSat]

The Brazil v Chile match was moved on Bravo from Sunday to Monday - but TiVo listings haven't been updated yet.

[the_hut]

Service Provider - Sky, but relevant to all platforms
Channel Name - Channel 4, E4, E4+1
Channel Number - 104, 163, 164
Programme Name - Bollywood Star
Time/Date of airing - All, commencing 01 June 2004, 21.00
Problem encountered - No description and no season pass option, despite this being a series.

[aerialplug]

Sci-fi channel have been trailing a new programme called "The Invisible Man" for weeks now - but so far, no sign on the TiVo schedule.

According to their web site, it started today at 1pm and 7pm. This reads as Quantum Leap and Outer Limits respectively on my TiVo. Digiguide shows the same, as does Radio Times.

Have Sci-fi made a large error in forgetting to publicise a new series in *all* their schedule guides? Sounds pretty far fetched to me - but then it is the sci-fi channel...

[cwaring]

Did you happen to watch the channel at either of those times to check if it was on? :) (or, if you couldn't, did you set your Tivo to record?)

[aerialplug]

I didn't check until much later, when I watched an episode of the new Twilight Zone series last night, which had an advert for the show burnt into the first few seconds after each commercial break. I realised that it was advertising a show that was on the same day.

when this happened last week, I had a look at the schedules. When I didn't find it then, I figured that this was a glitch that would be fixed - but obviously not! As mentioned previously, none of the schedules that I have list it.

I've set up a wish list a while ago - but if it's not in the schedule, the wishlist is bound to fail! I still don't know whether the new series started yesterday or whether it was mis-advertised!

[xxxx]

Click Online on BBCNews24 is also mixed up with Gate24. Or perhaps I should say that when Tivo lists Gate24 the actual programme is a 15 minute cut-down version of Click Online.

Another source of myriad errors is the Travel Channel on Sky Digital 181. It's hard to know where to start with that one.

[threadkiller]

Originally posted by aerialplug
I didn't check until much later, when I watched an episode of the new Twilight Zone series last night, which had an advert for the show burnt into the first few seconds after each commercial break. I realised that it was advertising a show that was on the same day.

when this happened last week, I had a look at the schedules. When I didn't find it then, I figured that this was a glitch that would be fixed - but obviously not! As mentioned previously, none of the schedules that I have list it.

I've set up a wish list a while ago - but if it's not in the schedule, the wishlist is bound to fail! I still don't know whether the new series started yesterday or whether it was mis-advertised! according to the SciFi website, it started, and digiguide now has it listed but I can't set a season pass :(

[OzSat]

There appear to be two SPs for The Twilight Zone - one for the original and one for the new.

But the data seems correct.

[aerialplug]

Originally posted by threadkiller
according to the SciFi website, it started, and digiguide now has it listed but I can't set a season pass :(

SciFi eventually got back to me. They said:
>>
I apologise for the confusion around the broadcast times of this series. I have checked and it appears that not all listings were updated in time for the Pilot episode.

I hope you manage to catch the rest of the series and that you can enjoy the new series that we are showing on Sci-Fi
<<

No sign of it on TiVo yet though.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by aerialplug
SciFi eventually got back to me. They said:
>>
I apologise for the confusion around the broadcast times of this series. I have checked and it appears that not all listings were updated in time for the Pilot episode.

I hope you manage to catch the rest of the series and that you can enjoy the new series that we are showing on Sci-Fi
<<

No sign of it on TiVo yet though. Can you provide an example of where it is not on TiVo - so I can check?

TiVo is correct here on the examples I have looked at.

[aerialplug]

Weird....

I've just forced a download and it still doesn't appear on my schedule. Here's next tuesday for me:

01:30 The Twilight Zone The Last Night of a Jockey
02:00 Farscape We're So Screwed Trilogy: Part III: La Bomba (3/3)
03:00 The Outer Limits In Our Own Image
04:00 Millennium Siren
05:00 Arc the Lad Oath of Vengeance - Part 3
05:30 Gasaraki Wails
06:00 Ray Bradbury Theater Touched With Fire
06:30 Ray Bradbury Theater The Black Ferris
07:00 Teleshopping UNKNOWN
10:00 Farscape Into the Lion's Den: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing (2/2)
11:00 Tremors: The Series Flora or Fauna
12:00 Tracker The Beast
13:00 Quantum Leap Leap of Faith: August 19, 1963
14:00 Farscape Dog With Two Bones
15:00 FreakyLinks Subject: Live Fast, Die Young
16:00 Tremors: The Series Hit and Run
17:00 Tracker Without a Trace
18:00 Quantum Leap One Strobe Over the Line: June 15, 1965
19:00 The Outer Limits In Our Own Image
20:00 FreakyLinks Subject: Police Siren
21:00 The Outer Limits Blank Slate
22:00 Urban Ghost Story Urban Ghost Story
23:40 Supernova Supernova

As you can see, in the 7pm slot, I've got The Outer Limits.

[kogs]

W5 3JN
NTL digital cable (ex Cable & Wireless)
Channel name B4U movies ,and ALPUN channel
channel nos 203 and 906
All programmes
All times/dates
There is no guide data for these channels. All I get is B4U movies every 2 hours as the description and ATNAP television as the description on the 2nd channel. The channels are in the programme guide. These appear to be the only channels affected in the programme line-up.
NTL now/next bar does give full programme listings for both channels as does their EPG (which is a poor EPG).

Thankyou.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by aerialplug
Sci-fi channel have been trailing a new programme called "The Invisible Man" for weeks now - but so far, no sign on the TiVo schedule.

This (http://www.tvtome.com/InvisibleMan/) series?

Not exactly 'new'; it was on Bravo last year :)
Same thing with "Quantum Leap". It seems to move every couple of years between Sci-Fi and UKTV Gold.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by aerialplug
As you can see, in the 7pm slot, I've got The Outer Limits. I see the problem now!

There were two versions of the schedules - I have forwarded the correct one to Tribune.

[wadadli]

My 5-year-old son is besotted with Pop+ on Sky channel 620. Unfortunately, the TiVo channel lineup for this channel (and also Pop channel 619) bears no resemblance to anything being shown, at any time. Would you please take time to correct it or at least give a reason why it's apparently not possible. I can't currently record individual programs for him so I have to let him watch it all live! Not good! Many thanks

[OzSat]

Originally posted by wadadli
My 5-year-old son is besotted with Pop+ on Sky channel 620. Unfortunately, the TiVo channel lineup for this channel (and also Pop channel 619) bears no resemblance to anything being shown, at any time. Would you please take time to correct it or at least give a reason why it's apparently not possible. I can't currently record individual programs for him so I have to let him watch it all live! Not good! Many thanks Pop promised to provide schedules and updates.

They provide a schedule which was added - the end.

Same story with a lot of small channels.

It is more likely to be removed than updated.

[bobbymobile]

Service Provider - Sky
Channel Name - GMM
Channel Number - 136
Programme Name - Camping It Up and Caravan Sights
Time/Date of airing - All,
Problem encountered - No Episode Title/ Episode Description for Camping It Up and not complete for Caravan Sights

[spellmaster]

Service Provider - Sky
Channel Name - History
Channel Number - 561
Programme Name - The Royal navy
Time/Date of airing - 08/jun/04 7pm to 8,
Problem encountered - not the correct program data

also Discovery wings
556
vulcans, victors & cuba
08/jun/04 7pm to 8,
again wrong data.

this is seemingly getting worse and worse fist national Geo now it all the channels in the 55* range! grr.
Is sky trying to get us all to get sky pluss or somthing. I aready have one + box 2 tivos and sat recieves!

[spellmaster]

Service Provider - Sky
Channel Name - History
Channel Number - 561
Programme Name - The Royal navy
Time/Date of airing - 08/jun/04 7pm to 8,
Problem encountered - not the correct program data

also Discovery wings
556
vulcans, victors & cuba
08/jun/04 7pm to 8,
again wrong data.

this is seemingly getting worse and worse fist national Geo now it all the channels in the 55* range! grr.
Is sky trying to get us all to get sky pluss or somthing. I aready have one + box 2 tivos and sat recieves!

[threadkiller]

Originally posted by ozsat
I see the problem now!

There were two versions of the schedules - I have forwarded the correct one to Tribune. Ozsat any sign of this appearing in the listings, My TIVO is geting sooo confused :(

[OzSat]

Originally posted by threadkiller
Ozsat any sign of this appearing in the listings, My TIVO is geting sooo confused :( I've no idea - I have forwarded the listings and that's all I can do. :(

[threadkiller]

Originally posted by ozsat
I've no idea - I have forwarded the listings and that's all I can do. :( okey dokey just have to keep checking, Thanks

[digital_S]

Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: ITV1
Channel Number: 3
Programme Name: Speed Sunday "Le-Mans Special"
Time/Date of airing: Sat 12/6 - 2:40pm, Sun 13/6 - 1:15am and Sun 13/6 - 1:30pm.
Problem encountered: Season Passes will pick up the 1st and 3rd showings of the Le-Mans Special, but not the 2nd because TiVo thinks it's a repeat of the 1st showing.
All 3 showings are "Live" coverage of the Le-Mans 24 hour race!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have a SP for "Speed Sunday" - Then either wait to see if Tribune can change the SP in time, or just add the 2nd showing, to be recorded!

[sunscreem]

- AB22 8FR
- Sky Digital
- Bravo / Bravo+1
- 124 / 125
- Alias
- Mon 21st June

Alias problems again! Bravo are repeating the entire series of Alias over about 12 nights - in the lead up to the Ricky Gervais episode. As they are currently showing season 3 - it make no sense that the listings show repeats of season 1. Can someone check that these repeats are incorrectly labelled as season 1 (they should be season 3)?

[threadkiller]

Sky
FXUK

JAG

From Fri 18th 22:00

Listings show old series episodes. Series 9 ep 1 starts at 22:00 following last episode of series 8 ep 24 @ 21:00

all subsequent repeats also list wrong episodes

This may well be missinformation from FX, but they are pushing the new series.

[warrenrb]

Just a heads-up to say that Tivo/Tribune have decided to change the name of Fantasy Football Euro 2004 to just 'Fantasy Football' so anyone who set up a season pass early on (like me) will not be getting tonights (or any) recordings unless you re-set up the season pass.

HTH,
Woz.

[cyril]

Not a listing error really, but today's Formula one has the post race analysis at 7pm on ITV2.

[alexb]

Where do i start with scheduling problems:

1) tonights new alias (and its repeats) wrongly identified as old season 1 episodes
2) new kingdon hospital episodes not automatically selected for recording (manually selected ok)
3) new scrubs episodes not automatically selected (manualyy selected ok)
4) Gamezville - 90% of recorded episodes are repeats!
5) cold case new episodes not selected - had to manually select

This is getting a joke, i am very close to cancelling my tivo subs and investing in sky+ instead...

[cwaring]

Originally posted by alexb

3) new scrubs episodes not automatically selected (manualyy selected ok)
My FROSP works fine.

4) Gamezville - 90% of recorded episodes are repeats!
They probably are :)
Is your SP set to FRO? If so, then this could indeed indicate a problem.

5) cold case new episodes not selected - had to manually select
Again my FROSP works fine.

Can't understand why yours doesn't :confused:

This is getting a joke, i am very close to cancelling my tivo subs and investing in sky+ instead...
What makes you think Sky+ will be any better?
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29745
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141223

[DazBarber]

- RM17
- Sky Digital
- E4/E4+1
- 163 / 164
- Big Brother

It appears that the repeats of the previous night's C4 showing of BB are marked with the wrong dates when shown on E4 (and E4+1) the following afternoon.

IE the repeat of the Monday 14th ep shown on Tuesday 15th is marked as the 15th June episode.

Have I made that clear???

Daz

[OzSat]

Originally posted by alexb
Where do i start with scheduling problems:

2) new kingdon hospital episodes not automatically selected for recording (manually selected ok) There are two new Kingdom Hospital episodes in the system which are correctly selecting on BBC3 on Sunday night. As they are back-to-back then one will be lost if you have padding set. The BBC2 episode is a repeat.

Rather then listing the names of programmes your system is not recording - perhaps you could indicate why by reporting what is stated in the recording log?

btw: in the last two weeks - four 'series links' have termininated on my Sky+ - although all four series continue. That is over 70% of failures on my BBC1 recordings on Sky+.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by DazBarber
- RM17
- Sky Digital
- E4/E4+1
- 163 / 164
- Big Brother

It appears that the repeats of the previous night's C4 showing of BB are marked with the wrong dates when shown on E4 (and E4+1) the following afternoon.

IE the repeat of the Monday 14th ep shown on Tuesday 15th is marked as the 15th June episode.

Have I made that clear???

Daz Is it really a repeat - or an amended highlights programme?

I don't know as I don't watch it!

[OzSat]

Just a reminder that you should really report these errors to TiVo UK CS - to ensure that the errors are logged.

This thread is not an official reporting system.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by ozsat
There are two new Kingdom Hospital episodes in the system which are correctly selecting on BBC3 on Sunday night. As they are back-to-back then one will be lost if you have padding set. The BBC2 episode is a repeat.


Having thought about it, I presume that padding is the reason for your "Scrubs" and "Cold Case" problem too; seeing as how mine worked fine and I have the same data as you and FRO set for both series :)

[cwaring]

Originally posted by ozsat
Just a reminder that you should really report these errors to TiVo UK CS - to ensure that the errors are logged.
This thread is not an official reporting system.

IANAM*, but I would add that you not think that "someone must already have done so" as this might not be the case, ergo the problem will go un-reported and will not get changed :eek:


*I Am Not A Moderator

:)

[sunscreem]

OzSat - As suggested I've reported the Alias and Big Brother Repeats to Tivo CS. The helpful lady filled out a sheet and said she'd get that processed for me.... I'll post again when I notice the (alias) problem has been fixed.

[OzSat]

Originally posted by sunscreem
OzSat - As suggested I've reported the Alias and Big Brother Repeats to Tivo CS. The helpful lady filled out a sheet and said she'd get that processed for me.... I'll post again when I notice the (alias) problem has been fixed. :)

[ccwf]

Originally posted by ozsat
I've no idea - I have forwarded the listings and that's all I can do. :( Note that people can also submit lineup error reports directly to Tribune Media Services (http://www.zap2it.com/index/feedback) following the directions at that link, which indicates it can be used for non-US reports, too.

However, I'd be curious to know how effective submitting corrections to TMS is (directly, through Oz and through TiVo) for you UK folks. I've personally had mixed results submitting corrections directly to TMS for U.S. problems. For example, this post (http://com1.runboard.com/bcjkdramasincalifornia.ftechforum.t4|offset=12) and the one following include an actual email with several corrections I sent to TMS. In that case, they made most of the corrections I listed but misread one line. I've also sent correction emails that have seemingly been ignored by TMS.

[OzSat]

Channel line-up errors and programme/schedule data errors are dealt with in different ways - and so are likely to have different issues which could delay amendments.

[Toothy]

My SP for Regional News and Weather on BBC1SCO, 6:30pm weekdays, has been failing to record any programmes recently.

Upon investigation....somebody has changed the programme title to Regional News; Weather....so this breaks the SP.

Which clever-dick thought that one up. :rolleyes: :down: :(

As mentioned in my previous post about this programme.....if it had been given its proper title....Reporting Scotland.......this error would never have happened.

Quoting myself from 18/05/2004....
On the subject of regional news programmes....is there any reason why my ITV1 regional news programme is listed by its name Lookaround....but my regional news programme on BBC1....Reporting Scotland.....is listed as Regional News And Weather

[threadkiller]

Originally posted by threadkiller
Sky
FXUK

JAG

From Fri 18th 22:00

Listings show old series episodes. Series 9 ep 1 starts at 22:00 following last episode of series 8 ep 24 @ 21:00

all subsequent repeats also list wrong episodes

This may well be missinformation from FX, but they are pushing the new series. actually, looking at the listings on my TiVo, they are a week out. TiVo have the new series episodes starting on the 25th instead of tonight

[sjp]

Paramount (Sky Digital ch. 127) are trailing Two and a Half Men as starting on Monday July 5th at 9pm.

Tivo has Rosanne as being shown at this time.

[Rob Nespor Bellis]

Originally posted by sjp
Paramount (Sky Digital ch. 127) are trailing Two and a Half Men as starting on Monday July 5th at 9pm.

Tivo has Rosanne as being shown at this time.

Hi Stuart,

I just spotted this too, ( we must've been watching the same adverts! )

To be fair, DigiGuide doesn't have listing this far ahead yet, nor does Paramount's own website.

Until the listings are correct ( and out! ) you could try an autorecord wishlist.

Rgds,

R.

[sjp]

Hi Rob

I'd checked DigiGuide as well but Paramount isn't a "more than 2 weeks" channel so i'd figured on checking back in a couple of days and updating.

this is one for the upcoming series thread me thinks...

how you doing?

stuart

[occitan]

My wife noticed a problem in the listings for the ITV channels

From the Radio Times web site:


Tue 29/6/04: 7:00pm : 7:30pm : 8:00pm

ITV1 London: Emmerdale : Boot Sale Challenge : The Vault


ITV1 Carlton: Emmerdale : Guinness in the Garden : The Vault
Central

ITV1 Meridian: Emmerdale : Glorious Gardens : The Vault

i.e at 7:30, Carlton and Meridian have different programs to that on ITV London (our 103 channel via Sky).

However on the TiVo, the listings for each of these channels, which are available independently on Sky (9xx), are all identical to ITV1 London, which means it is impossible to set up proper season passes.

My wife would like to subscribe to 'Guinness in the Garden', but not Boot Sale Challenge. We've set up a manual recoding for the moment, but it would be much nicer to be able to set season passes and auto record wishlists.

Is this a common problem for the ITV regions via Sky ?

[OzSat]

Originally posted by occitan
My wife noticed a problem in the listings for the ITV channels

From the Radio Times web site:

Tue 29/6/04: 7:00pm : 7:30pm : 8:00pm

ITV1 London: Emmerdale : Boot Sale Challenge : The Vault

ITV1 Carlton Central: Emmerdale : Guinness in the Garden : The Vault

ITV1 Meridian: Emmerdale : Glorious Gardens : The Vault

i.e at 7:30, Carlton and Meridian have different programs to that on ITV London (our 103 channel via Sky).

However on the TiVo, the listings for each of these channels, which are available independently on Sky (9xx), are all identical to ITV1 London, which means it is impossible to set up proper season passes.

My wife would like to subscribe to 'Guinness in the Garden', but not Boot Sale Challenge. We've set up a manual recoding for the moment, but it would be much nicer to be able to set season passes and auto record wishlists.

Is this a common problem for the ITV regions via Sky ? I've looked on my TiVo - and all the regional programmes are correctly listed at 7.30pm on 29th June.

I don't see any problem :confused:

[occitan]

Just checked again, and I see that indeed all is now fixed. I promise it wasn't like that yesterday ! Must have been in the last schedule update. Great work Tribune/TiVo !

Cheers
Guy

[cwaring]

Tonight's "Tru Calling" (Sky One, 8pm) was pre-empted due to "recent news events". Unless their schedule is updates, Tivo will now be a week out and, even if they are updated in time, next weeks ep might not be recorded due to the 28-day rule.

Just thought it worth a mention :)

(Oz, can you deal with this or should I call Tivo CS?)

[OzSat]

Originally posted by cwaring
Tonight's "Tru Calling" (Sky One, 8pm) was pre-empted due to "recent news events". Unless their schedule is updates, Tivo will now be a week out and, even if they are updated in time, next weeks ep might not be recorded due to the 28-day rule.

Just thought it worth a mention :)

(Oz, can you deal with this or should I call Tivo CS?) Sky should alert Tribune of this - but it should really be called in if you can confirm how Sky are handling it.

Tribune are not likely to act unless Sky confirm the one-week shift. Sky may slot it into the schedule before then (or just ditch it).

[cwaring]

Originally posted by ozsat
Tribune are not likely to act unless Sky confirm the one-week shift. Sky may slot it into the schedule before then (or just ditch it).
It was confirmed on-air that it would be shown next week. I'll call it in anyway :)

[the_hut]

New series of Wife Swap kicks off on Tuesday night on C4. No worries, I thought, I've got a season pass set up for that.

Check the to do list and it isn't there.

Check on the season pass - "0" upcoming episodes.

Check the listings - Wife Swap is there.

Find the prog in the EPG and set up a new season pass and it works.

So now I have two season passes for Wife Swap, one of which works and one of which doesn't.

Just a heads up in case you were relying on season passes to automatically record every episode of your favourite programmes (or, in this case, SWMBO's favourite programmes.)

[johala_reewi]

Same here :(

Package: Freeview
Region: SO45
Channel: C4
Date: Tue 29 June
Time: 21:00
Programme: Wife Swap

Problem: Existing season pass from last series on C4 is not picking up the new episodes.

[kitschcamp]

A heads-up as Tivo hasn't had time to update the listings... I've just double checked on the Sky box planner and there are changes tonight on Sky One.

Sky One, Thursday (ie tonight)

24 is not on at 9pm - it's now on at 10pm.
As a result Cold Case has been bumped to an 11pm start. Grrr.

[cwaring]

Well I never knew that :)
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=181586

(Sorry! You should know all about me and sarcasm by now. It's an affliction, I tell you :p)

[kitschcamp]

Yeah, well... As fewer and fewer people are visiting the forums regularly, it appears, I thought it was better reported here where people are more likely to see it.

[Rob Nespor Bellis]

Originally posted by sjp
Paramount (Sky Digital ch. 127) are trailing Two and a Half Men as starting on Monday July 5th at 9pm.

Tivo has Rosanne as being shown at this time.

This is now showing correctly in the schedules....

But according to the TiVo the episode first shown on Thursday 8 July is being repeated on Friday 9 July - I suspect this is an error already ( especially given that Paramount listings on the TiVo are complete pants. )

The other interesting thing is that episode titles and descriptions are given on the TiVo, none are listed on the Paramount website ( but their listings are normally complete pants too, ) or in Digiguide.

So you can now set a season pass, but I would keep a close eye on it.

Rgds,

R.

[sjp]

Originally posted by the_hut
New series of Wife Swap kicks off on Tuesday night on C4. No worries, I thought, I've got a season pass set up for that.

Check the to do list and it isn't there.

Check on the season pass - "0" upcoming episodes.

Check the listings - Wife Swap is there.

Find the prog in the EPG and set up a new season pass and it works.

So now I have two season passes for Wife Swap, one of which works and one of which doesn't.

Just a heads up in case you were relying on season passes to automatically record every episode of your favourite programmes (or, in this case, SWMBO's favourite programmes.)

my recently created SP for the new run of Wife Swap fell apart either overnight last night or Thu/Fri night... Recreating the SP using the first of the 2 upcoming programmes did the trick.

it looks like they've reverted to the old show info and blown away any new SPs created against the data available in the last week or so (since my WL hit the first episode over a week ago).

stuart

[OzSat]

There were two different SPs running - you must have had the one they cancelled.

[sjp]

i hope that those that set up an SP based on the new programmes (the first of which appeared a couple of weeks ago) realise that they most probably now have an SP that does not do anything useful.

[the_hut]

It wouldn't be the first time this has happened; presumably users are now in the habit of regularly checking up on these things.

[dallardice]

ITV1 London
Sky
Postcode N1
Tuesday 29th June

The South Bank Show: Ian McKellan
currently shown on TiVo as 11pm - 11.35pm
currently listed on Digiguide as 11pm - 12.15am
South Bank Shows are normally an hour long so I'm more inclined to trust them on this occasion...

[dsbowskill]

W4
Freeview
BBC 7 - Channel 78
After Henry
Fri 25 June, 0630

This is a half hour programme and always has been, though for some strange reason TiVo thought it was 15 minutes this week.

I've noticed that radio programmes are frequently wrong on Tivo's EPG, although I have no idea why, as the details are correct in both the Radio Times and on the BBC's website.

Why don't they just take the data from there?

---
DSB

[cwaring]

Originally posted by dsbowskill
Why don't they just take the data from there?
I hope you're not serious? If they had to pay enough people to trawl through web sites to collect the data they need, I think that the subs might just double :) They use an automated system that takes data provided to them either directly from the channel or from agents for those channels. I think!

[iankb]

Tribune/TiVo may well be banned from using EPG data from some websites, since they are a commercial user who subsequently charge end-users for use of that data. I doubt that Digiguide would allow Tribune to use their data without payment of some hefty fee. Even the BBC might prevent the use of validated and enhanced data, such as that published in the Radio Times.

[TechnoNumpty]

Originally posted by ozsat
Pop promised to provide schedules and updates.

They provide a schedule which was added - the end.

Same story with a lot of small channels.

It is more likely to be removed than updated.

My kids love these channels as well. I just record programmes by time - they like CyberChase for example, so I record it every day when CyberChase is on (once I've figured out when that is!) and they time-shift it so they can watch it after their tea.

[dsbowskill]

Originally posted by cwaring
I hope you're not serious? If they had to pay enough people to trawl through web sites to collect the data they need, I think that the subs might just double :) They use an automated system that takes data provided to them either directly from the channel or from agents for those channels. I think!

There's a whole unit at the BBC which produces EPG data, which then goes to places like Sky and Freeview. Tivo don't have to hire anyone to trawl through websites, they just have to plug into the source data and it comes in for nothing.

Far from subs increasing ... they might just be able to lose a few people!

A source at the beeb told me that Tivo are currently manually re-keying a lot of programme data precisely because they don't have automated systems. That explains a lot of the errors.

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DSB

[dsbowskill]

W4
Freeview
BBC7, Ch78
Knowing Me, Knowing You
Thu 24 June 0330

Programme data says it's Knowing Me, Knowing you. It was actually 'Bristow'

[dsbowskill]

W4
Freeview
BBC News 24, Ch 40
Click Online
Sun 27 June, 0430

Programme data says it's Click Online. It was actually Simpson's World.

[johnbatty99]

SW18
BBC2, Ch 33

MotoGP

MotoGP motorobike racing is shown on a regular basis (approx every 2 weeks). However, the programme titles are different for each one (includes the location), which makes it impossible to book a Season Pass to record all races.

For example, Sunday 27th June 1:35pm "Moto GP Live: Holland".
Please please change the title to "Moto GP Live" and allow me to book a Season Pass!

[the_hut]

In this case you could consider setting up an auto-record wishlist for MotoGP Live* which would record all the shows for you.

[Andy C]

GU14
Sky One (140)

It appears all the original air dates are incorrect for Tru Calling (saying mostly Feb 2004) and Las Vegas (all say Jan 2004). So if you have a 'First Run Only' SP set up then keep an eye on the ToDo list.

[pallooma2]

Just recently there seems to be alot of errors on Terrest tv
BBC1 is showing Silent Witness 2nd part tonight at 10.35 but tivo is only showing the first part (9.00pm). There have been other issues, unfortunately I can't remember them now but its a bit worrying! any help or whatever ta.

[cwaring]

My Tivo is showing the correct schedule; part two @ 9pm. Part 1 was on last night. This is also correctly shown in Tivo's EPG.
There may have been a last-minute schedule change that your unit might not have picked up. When was your last succesful daily call?

EDIT: Unless, of course, they didn't show part one last night and have re-arranged tonights schedule to show both parts; in which case there is no way that Tivo could change their EPG fast enough. (Three days is the minimum notice TMS needs!)

However, DigiGuide does not show this schedule change either.

[pmk]

Due to the Tennis Part 1 of Silent Witness was not shown yesterday. An announcement was made to say both parts would be shown today. As this was a very late change I suspect both Digiguide and certainly TiVo would not be updated in time.

[cwaring]

A good guess from me, then :)

[steveroe]

The Original Air Dates for "24" on Sky One (106) and Mix seem to have reverted to the American dates so First Run only Season passes no longer select anything to record.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by steveroe
The Original Air Dates for "24" on Sky One (106) and Mix seem to have reverted to the American dates so First Run only Season passes no longer select anything to record.

When was your last daily call, Steve? Mine was around 8:40am today. The only reason I ask is that the OADs for "24" on my Tivo are correct.

[JNLister]

The Wrestling Channel
Sky Digital (Channel 427)

Broadcasting hours have now changed (as of 1st July). The shows previously airing from 6am to 9am have now had a straight swop with the Teleshopping which previously aired from 9am to noon. The old schedule is still showing on Tivo listings.

[lcsneil]

Sky
London
Tue 4th July

Not sure if this is a line up or schedule error but my Tivo is constantly recording a program on both the normal channel and the +1 (delayed by an hour) channel.

Example:-

Sun 04 Jul

13:20 UKGold - Allo Allo

14:20 UKGold+1 Allo Allo

So the same episode but the Tivo picks up both.

OK I admit I do have a season pass set for it on both the normal & +1 channel but surely Tivo should spot this?

The details seem to be the same with the exception of the series number in Tivo web on Gold it is 1237083 and +1 it is 1237084

Should these be the same?

Neil

[johnh]

Service Provider - NTL
Channel Name - BBC Radio4
Channel Number - 862
Programme Name - The Archers
Time/Date of airing - 08/Jul/04 7pm to 7.15pm,
Problem encountered - Original air date set to 10/Jun/04 instead of 08/Jul/04

Noticed it was missing from the To Do List.

John

[sjp]

while we're on the Radio4 trail...

the next few Desert Island Discs seem to be confused, this mornings had some female actress listed (who was actually on last week I think) but it turned out to be Michael Howard (might not mean much to you folks in the US but I nearly messed myself).

[Bones]

Postcode : SS5
Sky Digital, Channel 4 (104)
Programme: Bo'Selecta!
Problem: New episodes are shown at 2230 on Fridays, and repeated at 0000 on Sundays. FRO SP is recording both showings when I believe it should only be picking up the Friday airing.

[pmk]

Guide data for channel "FTN" is totally wrong.

For example:

Tonight Show With Jay Leno is usually on at 10:00 and 01:40 (and this is what TiVo thinks) but it is actually totally different programmes showing at these times.

Comparing TiVo to my TV Guide it looks like FTN has had a total schedule change so no programme is correct on the TiVo for this channel.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by pmk
Guide data for channel "FTN" is totally wrong.
You'd think that Flextech would have given TMS an updated schedule well before-hand, wouldn't you? :(

[OzSat]

Originally posted by pmk
Guide data for channel "FTN" is totally wrong.

For example:

Tonight Show With Jay Leno is usually on at 10:00 and 01:40 (and this is what TiVo thinks) but it is actually totally different programmes showing at these times.

Comparing TiVo to my TV Guide it looks like FTN has had a total schedule change so no programme is correct on the TiVo for this channel. The listings I have for FTN seem match TiVo.

Jay Leno seems to have moved to an earlier slot on Monday - and my TiVo shows the new times.

[pmk]

re Jay Leno.

My TiVo is still showing Jay Leno on tonight at 22:00 and at 01:40. It is actually Meet My Folks or something. It has been like that for all this weeks episodes.

Looking ahead for next week it is not correct for me yet (still doing 22:00 01:40). Unless it will be sorted in the next guide data update over night (I am up to date 05:00 this morning my last call).

Whatever has happened it has still been wrong this week for me as it has not even been shown at these times.

I wait and see what happens during the update overnight.

Thanks

[OzSat]

Originally posted by pmk
re Jay Leno.

My TiVo is still showing Jay Leno on tonight at 22:00 and at 01:40. It is actually Meet My Folks or something. It has been like that for all this weeks episodes.

For tonight my TiVo says 24.50 only - I think you need a daily call to get updated.

[pmk]

The update overnight has corrected Jay Leno now. Pity they were wrong for a week however.

[Automan]

If you want to record "The Invaders" dont try doing with a wishlist for Roy Thinnes who was the star of this cult series.

The episode description list no actors whic I think is strange since its an American program.

I've now missed the first two episodes :mad:

I also note "The Prisoner" has no actors - Are Tribune / Tivo cutting down on the EPG data to reduce the length of the daily phone calls?

P.S.
The Invaders and The Prisoner both have series links

Automan.

[JNLister]

The Wrestling Channel
Sky Digital 427

New schedule starts tomorrow (Monday 12 July). Sky EPG has been updated. Schedule is listed at http://www.thewrestlingchannel.tv/schedule.html

[Gavin]

Postcode: CM19
Service Provider NTL
Channel Name Five
Channel Number Aerial
Programme Name The Gadget Show
Time/Date of airing All see below
Problem encountered Duplicates recorded

Season pass with FRO + repeats set

It's on Monday at 7:30PM, and then repeated twice more, (wednesday and then friday or saturday). TiVo says there is "No Infomation Available" and the listing says the first airdate was 28/6/04 but it keeps recording all three episodes a week. I'm guessing this is because there is generic guide data. I'll call it in tommorow but thought I'd post it here see if anyone else is seeing it (as I thought Tivo prople are likely to be gadget people) Also the original air date is wrong, which is probably going to stuff tivo up if I set it to FRO...

Fives website has pretty generic descriptions, but they are different each week and does not which are new and which are repeats, ie Mondays says..

Entertainment show devoted to boys who love their toys. Suzi Perry tries out the latest in robot technology, while Adrian Simpson tests the iPod.

The next mondays says..

Entertainment show devoted to boys who love their toys. Jason Bradbury investigates flight simulators and watches nervously as a computer pilot with no experience of real flying for real tries to land an aircraft. Suzi Perry looks around Europe's leading automated house show, Cedia 2004. Jon Bentley delves into the black art of making the perfect espresso at home with machines costing up to three thousand pounds.

[cwaring]

"The Ultimate Ad Show"
Bravo, 7pm
from 20th July

Problem: Can't set a Season Pass.

[AENG]

Gavin is right about the Gadget Show repeats. Guess I've just learned to accept it, the same as I have with similar problems affecting most of the radio season passes I use, e.g. Discovery, I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, Garrison Keillor and many others. C'est la Vie! Difficult to avoid the feeling that we are the last outpost of a dying civilisation.

[MikeC]

Sky Digital
BBC3
115
Swiss Toni
21:30 13/7/04

TiVo is incorrectly listing Monkey Dust as showing.

BBC website lists schedule as

Swiss Toni - Troubleshooter: In a last ditch effort to try and save his ailing showroom, Swiss hires a troubleshooter. It's not a success. Followed by 60 Seconds.