ARCHIVE THREAD: Old TiVo Programme Listings/Schedule Errors

[smartdave]

- RM14 2EW
- NTL Digital Cable
- Sky One and Mix
- 30 and 930
- Keen Eddie
- Sundays 8:00pm Mix and 2:00pm Sky One
- Sky listings also seem to be in error, but I have contacted their customer relations and they have assured me that Sunday 8:00pm on Sky One Mix is the first showing and the following Sunday at 2:00pm on Skyone is a repeat of this.

Tivo thinks every showing is a new episode. I recorded both episodes on Sunday and found I had recorded a repeat of the previous Sunday's episode.
1, Eddie 2, Horse Heir 3, Achtung Baby 4, Eddie Loves Baseball
5, Sucker Punch 6, The Amazing Larry Dunn 7, Black Like Me
8. Who Wants To Be In A Club That Would Have Me For A Member?
9, Keeping Up Appearances 10, Citizen Cecil 11, Sticky Fingers
12, Inciting Incident 13, Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite

David Clark

[warrenrb]

Seinfeld - Paramount Comedy Channel

The first series of Seinfeld has come around again on Paramount and I am keen to complete my collection. However, the episode titles seem to be out of sync.

Series (Season?) 1 begins with 'The Stakeout', but there is a pilot episode which Paramount showed (Called 'The Seinfeld Cronicles') which Tivo called 'The Stakeout'. I assume from here on in (looking at my to-do list) that we are going to be 1 episode out, titles-wise from here on.

Dunno if this is Paramounts fault for what they supplied, and it probably only matters to anally-retentive geeks like me (with my episode guide list), but I thought I'd point it out. :)

looks like even the Paramount website got it wrong, so can't blame Tribune for this one! :D

Warren.

[daveh]

Postcode : GL52
- Service Provider : Sky
- Channel Name : Five
- Channel Number : 5
- Programme Name : Hollow Man movie
- Time/Date of airing : Thursday 13th Nov at 22.10.

- Problem : The Guide shows wrong movie title Scarred City, which is actually showing next week on 20th Nov (and is correctly shown in the guide).

[cwaring]

Where do the people who supply your Guide data actually get that data from?

TITLE: "Just Cause"
Channel: Hallmark 190 (HALLMK)
Time: 12:00 & 7:00 Weekdays
"Drama series about an ex-con working as a paralegal. Alex investigates the threatened adoption of a young boy.
Starring: Elizabeth Lackey, Richard Thomas, Shaun Benson"

I thought there was something wrong when I read this and a quick look at the titles on the show confirmed it. It's LISA Lackey :rolleyes:

I know it's not your fault, Jim, but can you fix it? Do you want to? Do you care? :D

EDIT: Don't worry about it. According to the IMDB she is "sometimes credited as...". Note to self: RESEARCH!!! :rolleyes: :(

[youddiph]

Being a spanish speaker it's great that Sky have included TVEi in their lineup but Tivo's listings seem to be for TVEi latin america not Europe; thus all the programming through the night is totally out.

I've been trying to catch the Operation Triumph (& Gala's) on Monday Tuesday night; but the Tivo listings are recording some 1800's soap opera and miss the TVEi Europe showing of OT:(

what's happening who do I complain too?:)

J*

[steford]

Program guide episode title is 1 episode ahead of the one shown. I assume the pilot was slipped in without anyone knowing as we started the run again. What with the timing messup last month and now this - just 1 season all the way through correctly would be great!

[groovyclam]

As someone trying to learn Spanish can I also echo the call to get the TVEi listings correct.

[Ashley]

Originally posted by dazla
Two mistakes spotted in EPG;

- postcode - DA11 7BN
- provider - aerial
- chan name - ITV1LON
- chan num - 23
- prog name - Grandad's Army
- time - Wed 12/11 7:30pm
- problem - Should be Coronation Street at this time

* and *

SNIP



I missed this message and as a result missed Corrie:( :(
Thank goodness I can record the repeat on ITV2:)

Because this is a very popular programe there will be a lot of unhappy people!

How could Tribune make such a terrible error and not correct it!

Edit
Just found out that the TiVo recorded 'Grandads Army' as a suggestion so I've now got a recording of Corrie. :D

Perhaps my TiVo is cleverer than I thought!

[Leif_Davidsen]

Dont know if this has been pointed out yet, but the scheduling for Alias on Channel 5, in its new Sunday night/Monday morning slot, currently has it starting at 12:15 on Monday (17th) morning for only 20 minutes when the five website says it should last 50 minutes (until 0105).
I hope tribune can get this fixed.

I also missed 5th gear this week as Tivo thought it was an episode that was already scheduled - no VBH this week - life's not fair!

[Ashley]

ITV1's listing tonight seems even more screwed up!

News at Ten (well, 11!) was listed as 'From Hollywood to Borhamwood'!

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Ashley
ITV1's listing tonight seems even more screwed up!

News at Ten (well, 11!) was listed as 'From Hollywood to Borhamwood'!

Must just be your region. FYI, listings here in Yorkshire (ITV1YOR) are correct. (Specifically "News At When" and "Coronation Street, as mentioned earlier.)

[Adlopa]

Postcode: N21
Service Provider: TW
Channel Name: E4
Channel Number: 144
Programme Name: Smallville
Time/Date of airing: 19.00/01.25 - 13/14 November 2003
Problem: Incorrect guide data -- listed as part 1; should be part 2*

*Smallville at 7pm on E4 tonight ("The Calling") is listed as part 1 of 2, when in fact it is part *2* of 2. This means TiVo has picked it up as a duplicate showing and so won't record it.

It's a bit late now but the episode is repeated on E4 at 01.25 tonight if anyone failed to spot this before tonight's 7pm showing.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by youddiph
Being a spanish speaker it's great that Sky have included TVEi in their lineup but Tivo's listings seem to be for TVEi latin america not Europe; thus all the programming through the night is totally out.

I've been trying to catch the Operation Triumph (& Gala's) on Monday Tuesday night; but the Tivo listings are recording some 1800's soap opera and miss the TVEi Europe showing of OT:(

what's happening who do I complain too?:)

J* This should be corrected over the weekend

[cwaring]

Title: The Dead Zone
Channel: Sci-Fi 135 (SCIEU)
Date: Thursday 27th November 2003
Time: 21:00 to 22:00 (starting in 12 days)
Episode Title: The Hunt for Osama.
(or just "The Hunt" according to Tivo's EPG)
Problem: FRO SP not scheduling this ep due (I think) to wrong OAD. Should be set to date as above but is currently set to a date in April, 2003.

[cwaring]

Title: The Dead Zone
Channel: Sci-Fi 135 (SCIEU)
Date: Thursday 27th November 2003
Time: 21:00 to 22:00
Episode Title: The Hunt for Osama.
(or just "The Hunt" according to Tivo's EPG)
Problem: FRO SP not scheduling this ep due (I think) to wrong OAD. Should be set to date as above but is currently set to a date in April, 2003.

[cwaring]

Title: The Dead Zone
Channel: Sci-Fi 135 (SCIEU)
Date: Thursday 27th November 2003
Time: 21:00 to 22:00 (starting in 12 days)
Episode Title: The Hunt for Osama.
(or just "The Hunt" according to Tivo's EPG)
Problem: FRO SP not scheduling this ep due (I think) to wrong OAD. Should be set to date as above but is currently set to a date in April, 2003.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by youddiph
Being a spanish speaker it's great that Sky have included TVEi in their lineup but Tivo's listings seem to be for TVEi latin america not Europe; thus all the programming through the night is totally out.

I've been trying to catch the Operation Triumph (& Gala's) on Monday Tuesday night; but the Tivo listings are recording some 1800's soap opera and miss the TVEi Europe showing of OT:(

what's happening who do I complain too?:)

J* TiVo now has the correct listings for the European version.

Interesting to see the evening that TiVo has the correct listings, while the Sky EPG is incorrect.

[groovyclam]

E4 and E4+1 schedules run out on the 22nd November. Shouldn't we have more data by now ?

[digital_S]

Originally posted by Leif_Davidsen
the scheduling for Alias on Channel 5, in its new Sunday night/Monday morning slot, currently has it starting at 12:15 on Monday (17th) morning for only 20 minutes when the five website says it should last 50 minutes (until 0105). The schedules on the FIVE (http://www.five.tv/home/frameset/?content=98887&) Website shows that "ITU Triathalon" shouldn't be there. So an extra 30 mins padding will probably be needed!

[groovyclam]

E4 and E4+1 schedules now go up to 28th Nov but with lots of gaps of "To be announced"

Please can this be looked at quickly - DigiGuide has no gaps in it's listings upto the 28th.

UK TiVo owners are in danger of missing out on the next series of Oz because of this.

[Azrikam]

Postcode: W10
Service Provider: Sky
Channel Name: Paramount
Channel Number: 127
Programme Name: Saturday Night Live
Time/Date of airing: All
Problem: Incorrect guide data

It looks as if the guide data for Saturday Night Live is being taken from the new American shows, as it lists the new cast. Since these Paramount episodes are all classic episodes (Eddie Murphy, etc), the actor list is misleading.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by groovyclam
E4 and E4+1 schedules now go up to 28th Nov but with lots of gaps of "To be announced"

Please can this be looked at quickly - DigiGuide has no gaps in it's listings upto the 28th.

UK TiVo owners are in danger of missing out on the next series of Oz because of this. Can you provide some examples?

OZ is listing on my TiVo E4 listings.

[sanderton]

The Adventure of English (ITV1, Sunday) is showing as ao ne-off not a series, and is not being pricked up be an exsting SP.

[groovyclam]

Can you provide some examples?

Every night of 23rd-27th on E4 for me has "To be announced" at 11:05pm and also again around about the last programme of the night before closedown until the next day.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by groovyclam
Every night of 23rd-27th on E4 for me has "To be announced" at 11:05pm and also again around about the last programme of the night before closedown until the next day. Suggest you try a daily call and wait a couple of hours.

I have full schedules for these times.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by ozsat
Suggest you try a daily call and wait a couple of hours.
I have full schedules for these times.

Whan was your last call, Oz? Mine was 2:19am today (Sunday) and I still have the gaps as listed; around 11pm and 3am 23-27/11.

[ozsat]

My data says "To: Saturday 6th December" - which is the latest possible.

[sjp]

next Sundays Sky One Mix 8pm-10pm (Keen Eddie and RHD/LA iirc) data does not match what is currently on the Sky EPG... digiguide has the same info as TiVo which is more than a little confusing.

stuart

[browellm]

It was pointed out by digital_S on page 4 of this thread but 5th gear (Sunday, 8.30pm Ch5) is still showing as "Eighties Special" every week.

Oh, and What Not to Wear seems to be totally borked, I can't make head nor tail of what records and doesn't in the season pass options. We keep getting the same one over and over and over........

[kitschcamp]

The same problem seems to exist on Sky+, too, so it looks like bad data from BBC...

[ozsat]

The BBC data hasn't been too good recently.

BBC1 Wales has its own coverage of their football for Wednesday (and last Saturday) - but this was never in the schedules.

[sanderton]

My Digiguide listings checking module finally found an error!

Or at least, a difference of opinion. :)

TiVo has Thursday morning's RWC 3rd place playoff on ITV; Digiguide has it on ITV2. ITV's website agrees.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by sanderton
My Digiguide listings checking module finally found an error!

Or at least, a difference of opinion. :)

TiVo has Thursday morning's RWC 3rd place playoff on ITV; Digiguide has it on ITV2. ITV's website agrees. My Digiuide only updated this today - Sky's EPG currently has it on ITV1 and ITV2.

[sanderton]

So there is hope that my TiVoWeb module might be useful then! Digiguide just OK'd my releasing it (I checked with them as it's against their T&C to access Digiguide programatically) so I'll tidy up and release it shortly.

[pahunt]

The latest series of Britain's Worst Driver on Channel 5 is a celebrity version. The first episode was listed as "Britain's Worst Driver" but I've just noticed that all subsequent episodes are showing as "Britain's Worst Celebrity Driver" so my SP wasn't picking them up. I realise that it was probably the first episode that had the problem and the later ones that were correct but the fact that it recorded the first one made me think it would record all the others as well.

I can feel a "Britain's Worst * Driver" wishlist coming on :D

[Jon UK]

Postcode E13
- Service Provider Sky Digital
- Channel Name Sky One
- Channel Number 106
- Programme Name Angel
- Time/Date of airing 01:50
- Problem encountered

I have an SP for Angel, and have noticed that although Angel is listed daytimes as an hour long at night it is 50 mins. Im recording the 11:00 version but i am still missing 5 mins or so at the end. I have padded with 5 mins extra, now im looking to pad with 15mins extra.
Is this the best course of action?


Thanks, hope this is the right thread for this?

Jon

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Jon UK
I have an SP for Angel, and have noticed that although Angel is listed daytimes as an hour long at night it is 50 mins.

This is not a mistake. Sky One, as well all other commercial broadcasters are, by law, only allowed to show around 12 mins of ads per hour averaged out over any given 24-hour period. They do this by showing more ads during the day and less ads through the night. This is why most 1-hour shows in peak time only last 50 mins when repeated during the night. That said, I always pad Sky One shows over-night as they usually do over-run :D

[Jon UK]

Originally posted by cwaring
This is not a mistake. Sky One, as well all other commercial broadcasters are, by law, only allowed to show around 12 mins of ads per hour averaged out over any given 24-hour period. They do this by showing more ads during the day and less ads through the night. This is why most 1-hour shows in peak time only last 50 mins when repeated during the night. That said, I always pad Sky One shows over-night as they usually do over-run :D


Thanks, pretty new to this, Love TiVo.. I'll pad my season passes with 15mins.

J

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Jon UK
Thanks, pretty new to this, Love TiVo.. I'll pad my season passes with 15mins.

FIVE minutes will suffice. Honestly! No need to go overboard :)

[Furball]

PO11
NTL digital
Sky 1 , channel 30


Season pass is not picking up tonights Brainiac: Science Abuse

Also how come I have been able to set another SP for this program , it appears to be treating them as two seperate programs ??, surely you cant have two SP's for the same program ???

Fur

[cwaring]

Both problems are symptoms of guide data error :) In other words, it thinks tonight's is a seperate programme, which means that or original SP won't pick it up but a seperate, new SP will, and only that one episode will be available. If you see what I mean :)

[pmk]

Originally posted by Furball

Season pass is not picking up tonights Brainiac: Science Abuse
Also how come I have been able to set another SP for this program , it appears to be treating them as two seperate programs ??, surely you cant have two SP's for the same program ???


Title Wish Lists avoid many issues like this with guide data - i.e. out of my 150 SPS, I think 98% of them are Title Wish Lists.

I do not get Sky|One but a title wish list of "brianiac" is how I would set it up - the only time this would not work is if TiVo thought it had already recorded the episode.

If the program is repeated you may get issues of multiple recording however but as I only have Freeview not much of an issue for me.

HTH

[sjp]

sky digital - biography channel - 563

the "biography" programmes currently in the data do not match up with the Sky EPG... one instance from today and several this coming Sunday.

doubt it's only today & sunday that are wrong though.

stuart

p.s., fwiw, digiguide *seem* to have it right

[Gavin]

Postcode cm19 5nt
Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) Aerial
Channel Name five
Channel Number N/A
Programme Name Robot Wars
Time/Date of airing Sat 12:50 Sun 19:00
Problem encountered The Saturday show is repeated on sunday, but it's being recorded as a new show.

This has been posted here TWICE by johala_reewi but Tivo still thinks they are seperate showings. Can this PLEASE be sorted out, C5's web site even says the're repeats on Sunday, Digiguide doesn't seem to but I don't have a paid subscription to it.

[Toothy]

SP for Single on ITV1 did not catch last nights episode. :(

According to the Recording History...it wasn`t recorded because it was no longer in the guide data. :(

[Gavin]

Postcode cm19 5nt
Service Provider (aerial, Sky Digital, etc.) NTL Cable
Channel Name Discovery Wings
Channel Number 805
Programme Name Airshow World 100
Time/Date of airing It's discovery so *lots* Usually Saturday
Problem encountered : I suspect this is Discovery's problem but it's got generic guide data:

Gulf War veteran John Nichol introduces this year's air show action from Old Warden, Cosford, Air Atlantique, Waddington and Paris.

But it's not, that more of a series data ie yesterdays (sat 22nd) was the Air Atlantique one, The next one will be another Airshow, but as they all have the same data Tivo thinks it's just on show being repeated a lot (as Discovery do)

[bobnick]

Originally posted by Toothy
SP for Single on ITV1 did not catch last nights episode. :(

According to the Recording History...it wasn`t recorded because it was no longer in the guide data. :(

Have you ever considered that it might have been removed from the guide data as it was removed from the schedules?
"Last night's" episode is being broadcast on Thursday night - ITV are now pitching the show at the insomniac market.

Tribune make enough mistakes without us having to scare them with incorrect reports :(

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Toothy
SP for Single on ITV1 did not catch last nights episode. :(

According to the Recording History...it wasn`t recorded because it was no longer in the guide data. :( When reporting errors you need to list the channel name and intended transmission time. Otherwise it takes a while to locate the error.

In this case there was no error as there was no episode to catch!

[alanjrobertson]

Anyone else finding that the Season Pass isn't properly recording the new series of Monkey Dust on Tuesday nights on BBC3? I keep finding that it's selecting ALL episodes on BBC3 rather than just the new ones each week (I think it's repeated at 1am later that night and later in the week) - surely it should be automatically ignoring these repeats?

Cheers

Alan

[kitschcamp]

BBC3 season passes are truly awful at the moment, this weekend I had the same problem with Dreamspaces.

[woody]

I have a dual setup (Freeview & Sky)

All my SP's that were set for Ukhistry 12 on freeview have been reassigned to 582 Ukhistry on Sky, but I don't have 582 selected as a channel I receive.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by woody
I have a dual setup (Freeview & Sky)

All my SP's that were set for Ukhistry 12 on freeview have been reassigned to 582 Ukhistry on Sky, but I don't have 582 selected as a channel I receive. Make sure that UKhisty on 12 is assigned - as TiVo defaults to the best and/or highest number if neither or both are selected.

[joni]

Paramount
Frasier
6.00pm/9.30pm nightly

Differing programme description from early to late showing despite same episode. One is peculiar to the episode in question whilst the other is generic and repeated daily. This results in both recording on SP. Solution would be to apply the same criteria on both showings.

[groovyclam]

Channel 4
Sky channel 104 ( and other palatforms )
Sunday 7th December 8:30 a.m.

This episode of the 1960's Spider-Man cartoon fails to be picked up by a season pass for the previously shown episodes. It can be made to have a season pass of its own.

[sanderton]

Inconsistencies between TiVo data and Digiguide picked up by my TiVoWeb module. Don't know which is right!

Wed BBC2 20:30
Tribune: 5 Things I Hate About You then What Not to Wear 30mins long each
Digiguide: What Not to Wear 60 mins long

Thu SKYSP1 18:30
Tribune: Rugby Club
Digiguide: Sports Awards: Sunday Times Sportswoman of the Year

Mon SKYONE 00:30
Tribune: Scrubs
Digiguide: Sex on the Beach

[ozsat]

Originally posted by sanderton
Inconsistencies between TiVo data and Digiguide picked up by my TiVoWeb module. Don't know which is right!

Wed BBC2 20:30
Tribune: 5 Things I Hate About You then What Not to Wear 30mins long each
Digiguide: What Not to Wear 60 mins longMy TiVo and Digiguide both have the 60 min version of What Not to Wear
Thu SKYSP1 18:30
Tribune: Rugby Club
Digiguide: Sports Awards: Sunday Times Sportswoman of the Year

Mon SKYONE 00:30
Tribune: Scrubs
Digiguide: Sex on the Beach [/B] These do not seem to have been updated on TiVo - but it could be they are in the system.

[sanderton]

Thanks - on checking my TiVo had not dialled out since Sunday. Bizarrely it had not dialed out and failed (which I'd have noticed from the DailyMail email) - it just hadn't tried! How odd.

[sjp]

well these posts had me checking... TiVo dialled up at 1am this morning and still has the 30 minute What Not To Wear.

thanks for posting and having me check.

[woody]

Thanks Ozsat. Didn't realize this, and when I deselected channel 12 as one I wish to use, thats when all the SP's changed to 582, even though this wasn't selected either. I just thought the SP's would remain dormant.

[ozsat]

SPs will continue to work on unselected channels - you have to remove them to ensure they will not record.

The 'channels I receive' is really a display filter.

[bobnick]

Just checked, my Tivo dialled in this morning and I too missed the first WNTW.

[ozsat]

Guide Data To Tuesday 16 December is the latest version.

[sjp]

next wednesdays WNTW is also an hour according to the Sky EPG.

will check tomorrow to see if TiVo data has been corrected.

stuart

[SaintM]

Originally posted by alanjrobertson
Anyone else finding that the Season Pass isn't properly recording the new series of Monkey Dust on Tuesday nights on BBC3? I keep finding that it's selecting ALL episodes on BBC3 rather than just the new ones each week (I think it's repeated at 1am later that night and later in the week) - surely it should be automatically ignoring these repeats?

Cheers

Alan

Yes I have noticed this too, so...


Postcode: SO23
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC3
Programme Name: Monkey Dust
Time/Date of airing: Various
Problem encountered: As described above, all screenings of episodes are being recorded rather than just the one, meaning about 5 recordings of the same episode per week!


Also...

Postcode: SO23
Service Provider: Arial
Channel Name: BBC1 South
Programme Name: Body Snatchers
Time/Date of airing: Wed 9pm
Problem encountered: This is not listed as being part of a series when it should be. There are currently two more episodes listed in my guide data, neither of them are linked.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by ozsat
Guide Data To Tuesday 16 December is the latest version.

Oh, I have Sunday 14th on mine - and a call this morning at 03:48. Wonder what time it was updated!

[sanderton]

More DigiGuide inconsistencies:

Thu ITV1WE 22:30
TiVo: Follow the Fans
DigiGuide: Harry Hill's TV Burp

Fri ITV1WE 20:00
TIVo: House of Horrors
Digiguide: Jonny Wilkinson - He's Done It!

Sat BBC3 00:45
TiVo: Top of the Pops
Digiguide: Jerry Hall's Gurus

Fri SKYTRVD 23:00
TiVo: 24 Hours in Soho
Digiguide: Naked Angels in Beach Paradise

Fri SKYTRVD 23:30
TiVo: Manhattan on the Beach
Digiguide: Naked Angels in Beach Paradise

[manolan]

Originally posted by bobnick
Just checked, my Tivo dialled in this morning and I too missed the first WNTW.

Both my TiVos also had the old guide data. Interestingly, the continuity announcer commented "in a change to the schedule advertised in some sources" or words to that effect, so it must have been quite a last minute change.

[sanderton]

Another one:

Thu SKYSP3 23:00
TiVo: Rugby Club
Digiguide: Football League Review

[sanderton]

Some more. Once again, I don't know which is right.

Fri PARCOM2 14:00
TiVo: Minder
Digiguide: Rendez-View

Sat PARCOM2 02:30
TiVo: Taxi
Digiguide: Rendez-View

Sat PARCOM2 14:00
TiVo: Minder
Digiguide: Taxi

Sun PARCOM2 14:00
TiVo: Minder
Digiguide: Taxi

Sun PARCOM2 17:00
TiVo: Ellen
Digiguide: What about Joan

Sun PARCOM2 22:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: What about Joan

Mon PARCOM2 12:00
TiVo: Rhoda
Digiguide: Taxi

Mon PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Roseanne

Tue PARCOM2 12:00
TiVo: Rhoda
Digiguide: Taxi

Tue PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Roseanne

Fri SKYM9 22:20
TiVo: Heist
Digiguide: Dangerous Liaisons

Mon SKYM9 07:45
TiVo: Legend of the Lost Tomb
Digiguide: Down to Earth

Mon SKYM9 14:40
TiVo: Legend of the Lost Tomb
Digiguide: Down to Earth


Fri ITV1WE 20:00
TiVo: House of Horrors
Digiguide: Jonny Wilkinson - He's Done It!


Fri SKYSP1 05:00
TiVo: Premier League Preview
Digiguide: Tennis: Davis Cup Final

Fri SKYSP1 05:30
TiVo: Gillette World Sport
Digiguide: Tennis: Davis Cup Final

Fri SKYSP1 07:30
TiVo: You're on Sky Sports
Digiguide: Sports Awards: Sunday Times Sportswoman of the Year

Sat SKYSP1 05:00
TiVo: Premier League Preview
Digiguide: Tennis: Davis Cup Final

Sat SKYSP1 05:30
TiVo: Gillette World Sport
Digiguide: Tennis: Davis Cup Final

Sun SKYSP1 19:00
TiVo: Spanish Football
Digiguide: German Football: Bundesliga

Mon SKYSP1 03:30
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Spanish Football


Tue SKYSP1 03:30
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: You're On Sky Sports!

Fri EURGB 18:15
TiVo: UEFA Champions League
Digiguide: Live Youth Football

Fri EURGB 19:15
TiVo: Ski Jumping
Digiguide: UEFA Champions League Football

Sat EURGB 18:15
TiVo: Olympic Games
Digiguide: Live Youth Football

Sat EURGB 18:45
TiVo: Alpine Skiing
Digiguide: Mission to Athens

Sat EURGB 19:15
TiVo: Alpine Skiing
Digiguide: Italian Football Live

Sat EURGB 20:30
TiVo: Alpine Skiing
Digiguide: Italian Football Live

Sat EURGB 21:15
TiVo: WATTS
Digiguide: Italian Football Live

Sat EURGB 21:45
TiVo: Youth Only Zone Magazine
Digiguide: All Sports

Sat EURGB 23:00
TiVo: Youth Football
Digiguide: British Eurosport News Report

Sun EURGB 07:30
TiVo: WATTS
Digiguide: All Sports

Sun EURGB 09:00
TiVo: Bobsledding
Digiguide: Snooker

Mon EURGB 10:00
TiVo: Bobsledding
Digiguide: Live Snooker

Mon EURGB 10:30
TiVo: Skeleton
Digiguide: Live Snooker

Mon EURGB 15:30
TiVo: UEFA Champions League
Digiguide: Youth World Championships Today

Tue EURGB 10:00
TiVo: WATTS
Digiguide: Bobsleigh

Tue EURGB 10:30
TiVo: Euro 2004 Football
Digiguide: Bobsleigh

Fri SKYSP2 16:00
TiVo: Rugby Club
Digiguide: Freeze Sports

Fri SKYSP2 17:00
TiVo: Freeze Sports
Digiguide: NFL Weekly Review

Fri SKYSP2 17:30
TiVo: Boat Racing
Digiguide: NFL Weekly Review

Mon SKYSP2 02:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Golf: Nedbank Golf Challenge

Tue SKYSP2 03:30
TiVo: World Football Show
Digiguide: Test Cricket

Fri SKYSP3 00:30
TiVo: ATP Tennis
Digiguide: Honda Formula 4 - 130 Class Powerboats

Fri SKYSP3 13:00
TiVo: Rugby Club
Digiguide: Sports Awards: Sunday Times Sportswoman of the Year

Fri UKHRZ 23:00
TiVo: The 11th Hour
Digiguide: Jeremy Clarkson Meets the Neighbours

Sun PARCOM 18:30
TiVo: Roseanne
Digiguide: Frasier

Sat TRBLE 12:05
TiVo: That '70s Show
Digiguide: '70s X-Cess

Sat TRBLE 21:00
TiVo: That '70s Show
Digiguide: '70s X-Cess
Sun TRBLE 00:10

TiVo: That '70s Show
Digiguide: '70s X-Cess

Sun TRBLE 12:05
TiVo: That '70s Show
Digiguide: '70s X-Cess

Sun TRBLE 21:00
TiVo: That '70s Show
Digiguide: '70s X-Cess

Sat DHL 16:00
TiVo: A Passion for Angling
Digiguide: Hooked on Fishing

Sat TCMUK 05:00
TiVo: The Miniver Story
Digiguide: Damon and Pythias

Sun TCMUK 05:00
TiVo: Green Dolphin Street
Digiguide: The Miniver Story

Sun TCMUK 21:00
TiVo: Mad Max 2
Digiguide: The Road Warrior

Mon TCMUK 05:00
TiVo: Bridge to the Sun
Digiguide: Green Dolphin Street

Sat SKYM1 16:30
TiVo: Bonus: Master & Commander
Digiguide: Meeksville Ghost

Mon SKYM1 17:50
TiVo: Bonus: Master & Commander
Digiguide: It's A Very Merry Muppet Christmas

Fri HISTY 14:00
TiVo: Planes of Fame
Digiguide: Battle Stations

Mon HISTY 19:00
TiVo: Rorke's Drift: Against All Odds
Digiguide: Line of Fire

Tue HISTY 11:00
TiVo: Rorke's Drift: Against All Odds
Digiguide: Line of Fire

Tue HISTY 17:00
TiVo: US Carriers in the Pacific
Digiguide: Battle Stations

Fri NATGEO 01:00
TiVo: Hippos of the Zambezi
Digiguide: Building Big

Fri NATGEO 11:00
TiVo: Hippos of the Zambezi
Digiguide: Building Big

Fri NATGEO 14:00
TiVo: Battle of the Hood and the Bismark
Digiguide: Search For Battleship Bismarck

Fri NATGEO 16:00
TiVo: Hippos of the Zambezi
Digiguide: Building Big

Fri NATGEO 20:00
TiVo: Search for Battleship Bismarck
Digiguide: War Secrets: Italy's Forgotten Invasion

Sat NATGEO 09:00
TiVo: Search for Battleship Bismarck
Digiguide: War Secrets: Italy's Forgotten Invasion

Sat NATGEO 14:00
TiVo: Search for Battleship Bismarck
Digiguide: War Secrets: Italy's Forgotten Invasion

Mon NATGEO 11:00
TiVo: Riddles of the Dead
Digiguide: Search for the Afghan Girl

Mon NATGEO 16:00
TiVo: Riddles of the Dead
Digiguide: Search for the Afghan Girl

Mon CHALL 21:00
TiVo: Guinness World Records
Digiguide: Takeshi's Castle

Mon CHALL 21:50
TiVo: Monkey Business
Digiguide: Takeshi's Castle

Tue CHALL 21:00
TiVo: Guinness World Records
Digiguide: Takeshi's Castle

Tue CHALL 21:50
TiVo: Monkey Business
Digiguide: Takeshi's Castle

[groovyclam]

sanderton - your DG comparison is very useful but surely they need to be posted here with the date rather than just "Mon" "Tue" etc ?

In their current form they are hard to know which exact day has the wrong programme.

[Samstan]

Postcode: NP19
Postcode: SO45
Service Provider: Sky Digital
Channel Name: MTV
Programme Name: Made
Time/Date of Airing: Multiple inc. 27/11 6:00pm

I've got Made set as a season pass but although Tivo is showing Made as on, MTV is showing various other shows, some an hour long filling the slot, some 30 min shows. These tie up with what Sky has listed as on. This has happened for the last 2 or 3 weeks and my EPG is upto date.

[sanderton]

Originally posted by groovyclam
sanderton - your DG comparison is very useful but surely they need to be posted here with the date rather than just "Mon" "Tue" etc ?

In their current form they are hard to know which exact day has the wrong programme.

I only run it for the upcoming four days, but I take your point.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by sanderton
Some more. Once again, I don't know which is right.

Sun PARCOM2 22:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: What about JoanThis will be Police Squad - all other SKYM1, PARCOM, PARCOM2, DHL and TCMUK details are correct on TiVo
Mon PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Roseanne

Tue PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Roseanne
These will both be Robin's Nest.

The CHALL, NATGEO, HISTY, SKYM9, SKYSP and UKHRZ errors seem to be correct on Digiguide.

Sat TRBLE 12:05
TiVo: That '70s Show
Digiguide: '70s X-Cess'70s X-Cess is actually back-to-back episodes of That '70s Show - so both are correct.

Doing a quick check on Sky EPG

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by sanderton
I only run it for the upcoming four days, but I take your point.

Yep. Also as it's automated (is it?), it should be possible to make it produce the best format for Jim:
Channel Name & Callsign:
Channel Number:
Programme Name:
Time/Date of airing:
etc

I think it's a great piece of work and something I've wanted to do for ages! I have the native digiguide so don't want to pay them again for the website version in order to use it, but then again it only needs one person to cross-check and post alerts here :)

[ozsat]

Originally posted by mrtickle
Yep. Also as it's automated (is it?), it should be possible to make it produce the best format for Jim:
Channel Name & Callsign:
Channel Number:
Programme Name:
Time/Date of airing:
etc The channel number actually means nothing to the program(me) editors - but the rest is required.

[aalanl]

Incorrect lineup entries for Paramount, Nick, TCM and Cartoon:

Recently set up a TiVo as a present for my mother who lives in BT47 (Northern Ireland: TiVo has it as NTL - Londonderry Tyrone in the lineup section, I seem to recall). By the way this guided setup was carried out several times, including once at the specific request of TiVo customer service when this problem was initially reported to them. The results were always the same.

Having previously set the box up in WD23 (another NTL area) I noticed that the channel listings for BT47/NI NTL had assumed her analogue service had dedicated/all-day versions of Paramount, Nickelodeon, TCM and Cartoon. I had seen the shared versions previously listed correctly in WD23/NTL as UKPANI and TCMTOON.

However it turned out that BT47/NI NTL were just providing duplicates of the shared Paramount/Nick service and the shared TCM/Cartoon service (they also waste bandwidth on duplicating Living and E4 but at least the guide listings for those seem correct).

The current BT47/NI NTL guide entries for these channels are as follows:

31 PARCOMA
35 NICK

32 TCMUK
34 CARTOON

Of course I first asked NTL if they planned to use the bandwidth they'd already allocated to providing all day versions of the channels, as that would be clearly preferable. You can probably guess that (a) they claimed no awareness of duplication and then (b) it was 'OK because we didn't have to pay twice'. Impressive :-(

So, my request is for at least one of the duplicate entries for each shared service 31/35 Paramount/Nick and 32/34 TCM/Cartoon to get the correct shared service guide entries as UKPANI and TCMTOON respectively. This would help my other's TiVo make far fewer useless recordings based on incorrect lineup/programme info. Thanks in advance for anything you can do to help.

[ozsat]

It is unlikely that any bandwidth is being wasted as it is normal for a single transmissions to be available across more than one channel on the set-top-box.

I suspect that the intention was that the set-top-box would blank out either channel 31 or 35 at the required time - although Paramount/Nick would still be on a single transmission.

The chaning of the services to fulltime share services is being looked at.

[maubp]

Has anyone else noticed any problems with X-Men Evolution, weekday mornings on ITV2 on freeview?

It seems ITV2 have been broadcasting repeats, and tivo is still recording them.

I have only been watching the series for about a month (I think), so the 28 day rule should be stopping this...

[youddiph]

Channel Name & Callsign: BBC3
Channel Number: 115
Programme Name: Celebdaq/Ab Fab
Time/Date of airing: 21:30 28/11/2003

Tivo schedule had Celebdaq running from 21:00 to 22:00

But celebdaq was actually on for 1/2 hour and Ab Fab was on at 21:30

Freeview and Sky had this listed correctly.

Will this be fixed it's happened twice now?

J*

[sanderton]

Comparison of TiVo guide data to DigiGuide data fro this week (I haven't altered the code yet to show dates, but all are this week).

Just because there's a difference doesn't mean TiVo is wrong!

Wed E4P1 03:40
TiVo: The Bronx Bunny Show
Digiguide: Daisy Daisy
Wed E4P1 04:10
TiVo: Daisy Daisy
Digiguide: The Bronx Bunny Show

Thu E4P1 01:30
TiVo: Hollyoaks
Digiguide: The Salon

Sat E4P1 16:00
TiVo: Hollyoaks Omnibus
Digiguide: The Salon: Reappointment

Tue PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Robin's Nest

Tue PARCOM2 22:05
TiVo: Frasier
Digiguide: Live at Jongleurs

Wed PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Robin's Nest

Thu PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Robin's Nest

Fri PARCOM2 01:30
TiVo: Becker
Digiguide: Bill Plympton's Shorts

Fri PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Robin's Nest

Wed SKYM9 20:00
TiVo: Children of a Lesser God
Digiguide: Bend It Like Beckham

Wed SKYM9 22:00
TiVo: Bend It Like Beckham
Digiguide: Children of A Lesser God

Sat SKYM9 00:00
TiVo: Bridget Jones's Diary
Digiguide: Blow Dry

Tue ITV1WE 17:30
TiVo: I Want That House
Digiguide: The Christmas Show

Wed ITV1WE 00:50
TiVo: Running the Gauntlet
Digiguide: Great Escapes

Wed ITV1WE 01:20
TiVo: Running the Gauntlet
Digiguide: Great Escapes

Wed ITV1WE 23:30
TiVo: Great Escapes
Digiguide: Running the Gauntlet

Fri SKYSP1 03:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: The Rugby Club

Tue EURGB 10:00
TiVo: WATTS
Digiguide: Bobsleigh

Tue EURGB 10:30
TiVo: Euro 2004 Football
Digiguide: Skeleton

Wed EURGB 00:15
TiVo: Boxing
Digiguide: Rally

Thu EURGB 15:30
TiVo: Badminton
Digiguide: Biathlon

Thu EURGB 18:30
TiVo: Biathlon
Digiguide: Football - UEFA Champions League

Fri EURGB 15:30
TiVo: Badminton
Digiguide: Biathlon

Fri EURGB 19:30
TiVo: Fitness
Digiguide: Alpine Skiing

Fri EURGB 20:30
TiVo: World's Strongest Man Competition
Digiguide: Fitness

Fri EURGB 21:30
TiVo: British Eurosportnews Report
Digiguide: Strongest Man

Fri EURGB 21:45
TiVo: Youth World Cup Today
Digiguide: British Eurosport News Report

Fri EURGB 23:45
TiVo: Endurance Racing
Digiguide: Drive

Tue SKYSP2 03:30
TiVo: World Football Show
Digiguide: Test Cricket

Tue SKYSP3 06:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Kiteboarding

Thu SKYSP3 02:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: European Seniors Tour Golf

Thu SKYSP3 06:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Thai Boxing

Fri SKYSP3 02:30
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Thai Boxing

Fri SKYSP3 06:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Thai Boxing

Fri SKYSP3 11:30
TiVo: Freeze Sports
Digiguide: Aerobics: Oz Style

Wed BBC3 21:30
TiVo: Absolutely Fabulous
Digiguide: Little Britain

Tue UKHRZ 23:00
TiVo: The 11th Hour
Digiguide: Sins of the Flesh: The Secret History of Porn and Crime

Wed UKHRZ 23:00
TiVo: The 11th Hour
Digiguide: Sins of the Flesh: The Secret History of Porn and Crime

Thu UKHRZ 23:00
TiVo: The 11th Hour
Digiguide: Orgy

Wed E4 03:10
TiVo: Daisy Daisy
Digiguide: The Bronx Bunny Show

Thu E4 00:30
TiVo: Hollyoaks
Digiguide: The Salon

Sat E4 15:00
TiVo: Hollyoaks Omnibus
Digiguide: The Salon: Reappointment

Tue SKYONE 20:30
TiVo: The Simpsons
Digiguide: Futurama

Wed SKYONE 20:00
TiVo: Kirsty's Home Videos
Digiguide: The Simpsons

Wed SKYONE 21:00
TiVo: Temptation Island
Digiguide: Kirsty's Home Videos

Wed SKYONE 22:00
TiVo: Celebrity Boot Camp
Digiguide: Road Wars

Tue PARCOM 22:00
TiVo: The Frank Skinner Show
Digiguide: Time Gentlemen Please

Tue PARCOM 22:35
TiVo: Saturday Night Live
Digiguide: Drop The Dead Donkey

Wed PARCOM 22:00
TiVo: The Frank Skinner Show
Digiguide: Time Gentlemen Please

Wed PARCOM 22:35
TiVo: Saturday Night Live
Digiguide: Drop The Dead Donkey

Thu PARCOM 22:35
TiVo: Saturday Night Live
Digiguide: Drop The Dead Donkey

[pahunt]

Originally posted by sanderton

Tue UKHRZ 23:00
TiVo: The 11th Hour
Digiguide: Sins of the Flesh: The Secret History of Porn and Crime

Wed UKHRZ 23:00
TiVo: The 11th Hour
Digiguide: Sins of the Flesh: The Secret History of Porn and Crime

Thu UKHRZ 23:00
TiVo: The 11th Hour
Digiguide: Orgy


I can't say for sure whether these are genuine differences or not but UK Horizons seem to have a general title of "The 11th Hour" for programs that are on at 23:00 regardless of what they are. Seems stupid to me but that's what they do :)

[Ollie]

It's worse than that - the schedule sometimes has a 3-minute programme called "The 11th Hour" at 11pm, followed at 11:03pm by the actual programme which begins at 11pm. Utterly idiotic.

[Gavin]

As in my other thread the Sky one listings are hopeless at the moment. I noticied it as It was trying to record temptation island, but Big was on, Sky are trailering another film this sunday coming but Tivo thinks it's temptation island at 9pm.

Can Jimm99 explin why this is, bad data from Sky or a gremlin somewhere?

[cwaring]

Sky changing their mind, I would guess. It happens :)

[AMc]

In the past but
"100 Greatest Sexy Moments"
Saturday 29 November 9pm
Channel 4

This programme ran 30 minutes longer than Tivo/tribute had it listed and so I missed the top 9 :(
Listings in The Guardian Guide were correct.
If anyone else missed it the results are here
http://www.channel4.com/film/newsfeatures/microsites/S/sexy/results_10-1_1.html

[bobnick]

Had the same problem as I was wanting Sex and The City which was on after the programme. Digiguide was correct.
If you'd said earlier I'd have sent you my unwanted half hour!

[Gavin]

Originally posted by cwaring
Sky changing their mind, I would guess. It happens :)

I accept that, but Some places (digiguide) seem to have know about the change, and some didn't.

What started this was Big on at 9pm Sunday 30th, instead of Temptation Island. Sky changed the schedules and my tivo only got the change after it sialed in saturday night so it didn't know the difference. I accept Tivo cannot cope with last minute changes, but now however it's still showing as on on the 7th (this sunday), Sky's web site says it's Kirsty's Home Videos,

Digiguide doesn't list it as on Sunday ( I don't subscribe to it and thats on a program search so it might have missed it, but probably not as the rest seem to match OK) saying it's Kirsty's Home video's too. I cannot check NTL as the online EPG checker is not working and Tivo is taping End of Days

Now Either Sky is having a laugh and cannot decide what to show, or as seems to be the case the updates are not getting to Tribune.

Can Jim99 shed any light on this, and if Updates are not right for Sky Can Sanderton tell us which ones.

[sanderton]

Channel: E4
Progamme: The West Wing
Times/dates: various

The OAD of WW is set to what looks like the US OAD, so First Run SPs don't work.

[Azrikam]

Platform: Sky Digital
Channel Name & Callsign: FriendlyTV
Channel Number: 268
Programme Name: Various
Time/Date of airing: 7:00-8:00 and 19:00-20:00 weekdays.

This is more of a "heads-up" for TiVo owners who are wrestling fans, but The Wrestling Channel is testing on FriendlyTV at 7 AM and 7 PM weekdays in anticipation for a March launch. This test is only running for the month of December, so I doubt it'll show up in the TiVo guide data.

Schedule Here (http://www.thewrestlingchannel.tv/)

[groovyclam]

Channel: E4 and E4+1
Progamme: The Bronx Bunny Show
Times/dates: 3rd Dec

Last night had incorrect listings for The Bronx Bunny Show on E4 and E4+1, instead "Daisy Daisy" was shown - please check and correct E4 and E4+1 listings as a matter of urgency.

[groovyclam]

Channel: E4 and E4+1
Date: Saturday 6th Dec
Programme: Oz

Following on from above the Channel4 web-site and the Sky EPG show TWO episodes for Oz this coming Saturday on E4 and E4+1.

TiVo and DigiGuide show only one episode but with the wrong episode details for the position in the season 6 we are at in the UK. The Channel4 web-site and the Sky EPG show the correct episode names for the current position in season 6. This, coupled with the fact we had 2 back to back episodes last saturday leads me to suspect that DigiGuide and Tribune are wrong and need to get correct E4 and E4+1 schedules A.S.A.P.

For the record, the Sky EPG has episode "Sonata de Oz" at 23:55 on Saturday the 6th followed at 00:55 by episode "A Failure to Communicate" that runs until 1:55 on E4.

The same schedule is repeated one hour later on E4+1

[sanderton]

Differences of opinion between TiVo and Digiguide for next week:

Mon PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Robin's Nest
Mon PARCOM2 17:00
TiVo: Ellen
Digiguide: Mad About You

Tue PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Robin's Nest

Wed PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Robin's Nest

Thu PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Robin's Nest

Fri PARCOM2 01:30
TiVo: Becker
Digiguide: Bill Plympton's Shorts

Fri PARCOM2 13:30
TiVo: To Be Announced
Digiguide: Robin's Nest

Mon DISCOV 07:00
TiVo: Coltrane's Planes and Automobiles
Digiguide: Diggers, Tractors and Trucks

Mon DISCOV 09:00
TiVo: Copter Warfare
Digiguide: Wings

Mon DISCOV 11:00
TiVo: American Chopper
Digiguide: Daytona Bike Week

Tue DISCOV 07:00
TiVo: Classic Plant
Digiguide: Diggers, Tractors and Trucks

Wed DISCOV 07:00
TiVo: Classic Plant
Digiguide: Diggers, Tractors and Trucks

Wed DISCOV 16:00
TiVo: Weapons of War
Digiguide: Extreme Machines

Wed DISCOV 20:00
TiVo: Fallen God
Digiguide: Fall of a Tsar

Mon EURGB 00:30
TiVo: WATTS
Digiguide: Ski Jumping

Mon EURGB 01:00
TiVo: British Eurosportnews Report
Digiguide: Ski Jumping

Wed EURGB 00:15
TiVo: Rally Raid
Digiguide: Adventure

Tue SKYSP2 02:30
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: International Bowls

Mon SKYSP3 04:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: European Rugby Special - Weekend Review

Mon CBEEB 15:40
TiVo: Fimbles
Digiguide: Tweenies

Tue CBEEB 15:40
TiVo: Fimbles
Digiguide: Tweenies

Wed CBEEB 15:40
TiVo: Fimbles
Digiguide: Tweenies

Thu CBEEB 15:40
TiVo: Fimbles
Digiguide: Tweenies

Fri CBEEB 15:40
TiVo: Fimbles
Digiguide: Tweenies

Mon PARCOM 00:40
TiVo: Monty Python's Flying Circus
Digiguide: Live at Jongleurs

Mon PARCOM 01:15
TiVo: Caroline in the City
Digiguide: Monty Python's Flying Circus

Tue PARCOM 01:15
TiVo: Bill Plympton's Shorts
Digiguide: Married With Children

Tue LIVING 22:00
TiVo: Jane Goldman Investigates
Digiguide: Talking to the Dead

Fri NATGEO 21:00
TiVo: Nova
Digiguide: Battle of X-Planes

Mon ADVONE 12:00
TiVo: Lost Worlds
Digiguide: The Story of Archaeology

Mon ADVONE 16:00
TiVo: Lost Worlds
Digiguide: The Story of Archaeology

Tue SKYCN2 01:25
TiVo: Portrait of a Mobster
Digiguide: The Changeling

Wed SKYCN2 05:10
TiVo: Baby, the Rain Must Fall
Digiguide: Dante's Inferno

Wed SKYCN2 22:45
TiVo: A Streetcar Named Desire
Digiguide: Moscow on The Hudson

Thu SKYM4 11:20
TiVo: Bonus: Family Crackers
Digiguide: Secrets of The Bermuda Triangle

Wed SKYM8 03:45
TiVo: Movie
Digiguide: Robocop: Crash and Burn

Fri SKYM7 04:20
TiVo: Prince Charming
Digiguide: Sinbad: Beyond The Veil Of Mists

Wed DCI 11:00
TiVo: Great Books
Digiguide: Malcolm X

Wed DCI 17:00
TiVo: Great Books
Digiguide: Malcolm X

Thu DCI 01:00
TiVo: Great Books
Digiguide: Malcolm X

Wed DTRAV 21:00
TiVo: Ellen Macarthur
Digiguide: America's Favourite Haunted Places

Mon DWINGS 00:00
TiVo: John Nichol Flies
Digiguide: Planes That Never Flew

Thu DHEALTH 22:00
TiVo: A Trash Can of Skin
Digiguide: Made For Each Other

Mon HISTY1 18:00
TiVo: History Undercover
Digiguide: Bataan Death March

Thu DISPLY 09:58
TiVo: Story Garden
Digiguide: Jasper

Fri MOTORS 05:30
TiVo: Trefle Lozerien
Digiguide: Nations Cup

Mon UKGLD1 07:00
TiVo: Eldorado
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 07:40
TiVo: Neighbours
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 08:10
TiVo: Neighbours
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 08:45
TiVo: Doctors
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 09:20
TiVo: EastEnders
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 10:00
TiVo: The Bill
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 11:00
TiVo: Lovejoy
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 12:00
TiVo: Monarch of the Glen
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 13:00
TiVo: All Creatures Great & Small
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 14:00
TiVo: The Weakest Link
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 15:00
TiVo: Goodnight Sweetheart
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 15:40
TiVo: EastEnders
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 16:20
TiVo: Doctors
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon UKGLD1 17:00
TiVo: The Bill
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 07:00
TiVo: Eldorado
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 07:40
TiVo: Neighbours
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 08:10
TiVo: Neighbours
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 08:45
TiVo: Doctors
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 09:20
TiVo: EastEnders
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 10:00
TiVo: The Bill
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 11:00
TiVo: Lovejoy
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 12:00
TiVo: Monarch of the Glen
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 13:00
TiVo: All Creatures Great & Small
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 14:00
TiVo: The Weakest Link
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 15:00
TiVo: Goodnight Sweetheart
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 15:40
TiVo: EastEnders
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 16:20
TiVo: Doctors
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Tue UKGLD1 17:00
TiVo: The Bill
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 07:00
TiVo: Eldorado
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 07:40
TiVo: Neighbours
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 08:10
TiVo: Neighbours
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 08:45
TiVo: Doctors
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 09:20
TiVo: EastEnders
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 10:00
TiVo: The Bill
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 11:00
TiVo: Lovejoy
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 12:00
TiVo: Monarch of the Glen
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 13:00
TiVo: All Creatures Great & Small
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 14:00
TiVo: The Weakest Link
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 15:00
TiVo: Goodnight Sweetheart
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 15:40
TiVo: EastEnders
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 16:20
TiVo: Doctors
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Wed UKGLD1 17:00
TiVo: The Bill
Digiguide: Quantum Leap

Mon REALITY 21:00
TiVo: Impact TV
Digiguide: Rescue 911

Tue UKHSTY 14:00
TiVo: Liberty! The American Revolution
Digiguide: Ancient Apocalypse

Thu UKHSTY 10:00
TiVo: What the Romans Did for Us
Digiguide: Great Historical Britons

Thu UKHSTY 16:00
TiVo: What the Romans Did for Us
Digiguide: Great Historical Britons

Thu UKHSTY 22:00
TiVo: What the Romans Did for Us
Digiguide: Great Historical Britons

Mon FTN 05:00
TiVo: Get the Edge
Digiguide: Sheer Cover

Mon LIVING1 01:00
TiVo: Wild Orchid 2: Two Shades of Blue
Digiguide: Cold Squad

Tue LIVING1 01:00
TiVo: Unsolved Mysteries
Digiguide: Most Haunted

Tue LIVING1 01:30
TiVo: Unsolved Mysteries
Digiguide: Most Haunted

Tue LIVING1 01:55
TiVo: Montel Williams
Digiguide: Most Haunted

Tue LIVING1 23:00
TiVo: Jane Goldman Investigates
Digiguide: Talking to the Dead

Wed LIVING1 01:00
TiVo: Unsolved Mysteries
Digiguide: Most Haunted

Wed LIVING1 01:30
TiVo: Unsolved Mysteries
Digiguide: Most Haunted

Wed LIVING1 01:55
TiVo: Montel Williams
Digiguide: Most Haunted


Thu LIVING1 01:30
TiVo: Unsolved Mysteries
Digiguide: Scream Team

Thu LIVING1 01:55
TiVo: Montel Williams
Digiguide: Scream Team

Tue SKY1MIX 01:30
TiVo: Sky One Mix Previews
Digiguide: Greece Uncovered

Tue SKY1MIX 22:00
TiVo: Kirsty's Home Videos
Digiguide: Celebrity Boot Camp

Thu SKY1MIX 01:50
TiVo: Sky One Mix Previews
Digiguide: Relic Hunter

Fri SKY1MIX 03:20
TiVo: Sky One Mix Previews
Digiguide: Relic Hunter

[SaintM]

Originally posted by SaintM
Postcode: SO23
Service Provider: Freeview
Channel Name: BBC3
Programme Name: Monkey Dust
Time/Date of airing: Various
Problem encountered: As described above, all screenings of episodes are being recorded rather than just the one, meaning about 5 recordings of the same episode per week!


This is still not working correctly.

[pahunt]

Originally posted by SaintM
This is still not working correctly.

Similar story for most shows on BBC3. According to Tribune the BBC isn't giving them the information they need to distinguish between episodes.

[rscott4563]

Channel Name & Callsign: Toonami
Channel Number: 903
Television Provider: NTL Digital
Programme Name: Dragonball Z
Time/Date of airing: 9:00am till 3:00pm and various others

Tivo's guide data has been continually wrong this week for Dragonball Z on Toonami, last week it was on back to back from 9am till 3pm on I think Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. This week it was scheduled on Tivo to be on 9am till 3pm on Monday and Wednesday but it wasn't and wasn't sheduled as such on NTL's guide data, also it is incorrect at other times quite randomly as well.
My other problem is that a SP seems to be impossible as Tivo dosen't seem to be able to recognise the order of the episodes or when it has already recorded an episode.

[aalanl]

TV3 as received in (Northern) Ireland

- Postcode BT47
- Service Provider aerial/analogue broadcast
- Channel Name TV3 IRL
- Channel Number 29

- Problem encountered:

The listings for TV3 are all given in the generic form "TV3 Programming" in about 2 hour blocks. This channel carries lots of good programming and it would be nice to have its individual programmes listed as already is available with the other terrestrial RoI channels (RTE1, RTE2, TG4) that are receivable by many TiVO users in NI. Newspapers and listings magazines in NI and RoI all carry the usual advance listings for this channel, as for all the other UK and RoI channels, so I assume they should also be available to those who prepare the TiVo epg material. Thanks.

[alanjrobertson]

BBC1 Scotland this evening - Judge John Deed programme info wrong - was put as the same as last week and hence TiVo didn't record it under the 28 day rule - just realised at 10pm :(

[scoopuk]

I see the BBC7 listings, which should now be 24 hours/day from the 15th Dec, still have overnight "sign off" and "sign on" marks from the 21st onwards.

Full details here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/daylist.cgi?service_id=18112&DAY=Today

[sanderton]

My listings from the 16th have no sign off; I guess they'll get updated nearer the time.


00:00 Space Force UNKNOWN
00:30 Ladies of Letters Make Mincemeat UNKNOWN
00:45 The First Church of the New Millennium UNKNOWN
01:00 Little Women UNKNOWN
01:30 Peter Pan UNKNOWN
02:00 The Stone Diaries UNKNOWN
02:45 Nicholas Nickleby UNKNOWN
03:00 Four Joneses and a Jenkins UNKNOWN
03:30 Radio Active UNKNOWN
04:00 The Now Show UNKNOWN
04:30 Steven Appleby's Normal Life UNKNOWN
04:45 Stand-Up Great Britain UNKNOWN
05:30 I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue UNKNOWN
06:00 The Goon Show Operation Christmas Duff
06:30 Dad's Army The Royal Train
07:00 The Little Toe Radio Show UNKNOWN
08:00 The Hole in the Wall Gang UNKNOWN
08:30 On the Hour UNKNOWN
09:00 Ladies of Letters Make Mincemeat UNKNOWN
09:15 The First Church of the New Millennium UNKNOWN
09:30 King Street Junior UNKNOWN
10:00 Little Women UNKNOWN
10:30 Peter Pan UNKNOWN
11:00 The Stone Diaries UNKNOWN
11:45 Nicholas Nickleby UNKNOWN
12:00 The News Quiz UNKNOWN
12:30 Hancock's Half Hour UNKNOWN
13:00 Before the Party UNKNOWN
13:30 Paul Temple and the Conrad Case UNKNOWN
14:00 A Look Back at the Nineties UNKNOWN
14:30 Steptoe and Son Crossed Swords
15:00 The Little Toe Radio Show UNKNOWN
16:00 The Big Toe Radio Show UNKNOWN
18:00 Space Force UNKNOWN
18:30 Ladies of Letters Make Mincemeat UNKNOWN
18:45 The First Church of the New Millennium UNKNOWN
19:00 The News Quiz UNKNOWN
19:30 Hancock's Half Hour UNKNOWN
20:00 Before the Party UNKNOWN
20:30 Paul Temple and the Conrad Case UNKNOWN
21:00 A Look Back at the Nineties UNKNOWN
21:30 Steptoe and Son Crossed Swords
22:00 On the Hour UNKNOWN
22:30 The Hole in the Wall Gang UNKNOWN
23:00 Steven Appleby's Normal Life UNKNOWN
23:15 Stand-Up Great Britain UNKNOWN

[scoopuk]

Yep those are the same as mine - but from the 21st they revert back to overnight sign off sign ons.

[Fatbloke]

Not an error - more of a heads up.

If anyone has Film 2003 on season pass, check your listings since the LOTR episode tomorrow has a changed title 'Return of the king Special'. It's also on a lot later than normal. My Season pass missed this, so I needed to pick it up from the channel listing instead.

[Toothy]

A SP for 5thGear on CH5 does not catch The Best Of 5th Gear, which is broadcast Mon 22/12 8:00pm.

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by Fatbloke
Not an error - more of a heads up.

If anyone has Film 2003 on season pass, check your listings since the LOTR episode tomorrow has a changed title 'Return of the king Special'. It's also on a lot later than normal. My Season pass missed this, so I needed to pick it up from the channel listing instead.

Thanks for that, I would have missed it. I can't find the Saturday repeat though, it seems to have gone this week :-(

Here's another one:

Scrapheap Challenge Christmas Special
C4, Sun 21st Dec 17:15

This will not be picked up by the "Scrapheap Challenge" SP.

(I thought we had a thread set up for posting these alerts, but can't find it?)

[pahunt]

Originally posted by mrtickle
Here's another one:

Scrapheap Challenge Christmas Special
C4, Sun 21st Dec 17:15

This will not be picked up by the "Scrapheap Challenge" SP.


Thanks for pointing that one out I would have been gutted to miss it :)

[Crispin]

Far too late to do anything about it for tonight, but the BBC1 schedule has changed for tonight due to late changes yesterday:

8pm - 9pm: DIY SOS
9pm - 10pm: Crimewatch

[mrtickle]

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC2 + variants, UKG2
Channel Number: 102, 111
Programme Name: Room 101
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

This has been split into two Season Passes; it should be one. They are the same show.

The original Season Pass currently contains:

Episode Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time TmsId
(no title) Mon 15th Dec 2003 * BBC2 Sat 20th Dec 23:35 EP5019060014
(no title) Wed 24th Dec 2003 * BBC2 Wed 24th Dec 23:40 EP5019060015
"Bruce Forsyth" Thu 1st Jan 2004 * BBC2 Thu 1st Jan 21:00 EP5019060016
(no title) Mon 11th Aug 2003 BBC2 Fri 2nd Jan 23:00 EP5019060006
* = "First Run"


The new rogue SP currently contains:

Episode Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time TmsId
(no title) Mon 11th Mar 2002 UKG2 Fri 19th Dec 21:00 EP3261410013
(no title) Mon 11th Mar 2002 UKG2 Fri 19th Dec 21:40 EP3261410015
(no title) Mon 11th Mar 2002 UKG2 Sat 20th Dec 00:10 EP3261410013
(no title) Mon 11th Mar 2002 UKG2 Sat 20th Dec 00:50 EP3261410015
(no title) Mon 11th Mar 2002 UKG2 Sat 20th Dec 03:10 EP3261410013
(no title) Mon 11th Mar 2002 UKG2 Sat 20th Dec 03:50 EP3261410015
"Jonathan Ross" Mon 28th Jul 2003 BBC2 Thu 25th Dec 23:20 EP3261410004
(no title) Wed 6th Aug 2003 BBC2 Fri 26th Dec 22:50 EP3261410023
"Bill Bailey" Thu 17th Apr 2003 BBC2 Sat 27th Dec 23:40 EP3261410006
(no title) Mon 11th Mar 2002 BBC2 Sun 28th Dec 23:00 EP3261410013
(no title) Sun 23rd Jun 2002 BBC2 Mon 29th Dec 23:30 EP3261410021
(no title) Tue 7th Jan 2003 BBC2 Tue 30th Dec 23:55 EP3261410012
"Will Self" Fri 2nd Jan 2004 * BBC2 Fri 2nd Jan 00:10 EP3261410003
"Caroline Quentin"_ Sun 4th Jan 2004 ** UKGLD Sun 4th Jan 23:00 EP3261410031
"Caroline Quentin"_ Sun 4th Jan 2004 ** UKGLD1 Mon 5th Jan 00:00 EP3261410031
* = "First Run"
** = marked as "First Run", but SHOULD NOT be!


Please can you remove the rogue SP and put the episodes back into the original Season Pass!


=====================

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC2 + variants, BBC3
Channel Number: 102, 115
Programme Name: Little Britain
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

This has been split into two Season Passes; it should be one. They are the same show.

The original Season Pass currently contains:

Episode Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time TmsId
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Thu 18th Dec 23:00 SH6250070000
"22 December"_ Mon 22nd Dec 2003 BBC2 Mon 22nd Dec 22:00 EP6250070004
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Wed 24th Dec 01:00 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Fri 26th Dec 00:20 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Fri 26th Dec 03:15 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Fri 26th Dec 23:35 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Sat 27th Dec 01:35 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Sat 27th Dec 03:05 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Sun 28th Dec 23:35 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Mon 29th Dec 03:35 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Wed 31st Dec 01:00 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Wed 31st Dec 03:30 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Wed 31st Dec 22:30 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Thu 1st Jan 00:00 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Thu 1st Jan 00:30 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Thu 1st Jan 01:00 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Thu 1st Jan 01:30 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Thu 1st Jan 02:00 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Thu 1st Jan 03:00 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Thu 1st Jan 03:30 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Thu 1st Jan 23:00 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Fri 2nd Jan 01:00 SH6250070000
(info) _ Thu 4th Dec 2003 BBC3 Fri 2nd Jan 03:30 SH6250070000
"2 January"_ Fri 2nd Jan 2004 BBC2 Fri 2nd Jan 22:30 EP6250070005
"5 January"_ Mon 5th Jan 2004 BBC2 Mon 5th Jan 22:00 EP6250070006


The new rogue SP currently contains:

Episode Num Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time TmsId
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Sun 21st Dec 00:10 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Sun 21st Dec 02:10 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Mon 22nd Dec 22:30 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Tue 23rd Dec 01:30 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Tue 23rd Dec 03:30 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Tue 23rd Dec 22:30 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Wed 24th Dec 03:00 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Mon 29th Dec 22:30 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Tue 30th Dec 01:00 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Tue 30th Dec 03:30 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Tue 30th Dec 22:30 SH5547110000


Please can you remove the rogue SP and put the episodes back into the original Season Pass!

Also, there are no Episode details for any of the BBC3 showings. Normally this is because the BBC don't provide the data - but they are providing it for BBC2, so they should be able to provide it for BBC3 as well. Please ask them again?

[mrtickle]

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: Sky One (SKYONE)
Channel Number: 106
Programme Name: Malcolm in the Middle
Time/Date of airing: Sun 21st Dec 19:00


Tivo has this as a repeat of the old episode "Clip Show" from Series 3.

It should be "Clip Show #2", which is a new FIRST RUN (for UK) episode in the current new series 4 on Sundays on Sky One.

Warning: "First Run only" Season Passes will miss this episode!

(Digiguide wrongly also calls it "Clip Show", but correctly marks it as a New Episode.)

[cwaring]

Provider: Telewest Digital
Channel name/callsign: Channel 4/C4
Channel Number: 104
Programme Name: Review of the Year
Time/Date of airing: Sun 28th Dec 13:25
Problem: Programme Description is wrong.

I know it is because it is excatly the same as the "Review Of The Year" that was on BBC1 today @ 12:30pm! The "correct" description should be "A look back at some of the best moments from the past year on T4.", as givin in DigiGuide :)

[cwaring]

Provider: Telewest Digital
Channel name/callsign: LivingTV (LIVING)
Channel Number: 129
Programme Name: Charmed
Time/Date of airing: Sun 4th Jan, 2004 12:00 and 12:55
Problem: Wrong OAD

A FRO SP is picking up the above episodes as the OAD has been set to the date of broadcast and not the O(UK)AD which was sometime last year. The two episodes being shown are the last two from S5 "Oh My Godess Pt1 & 2".

[cwaring]

Okay, this is a strange one, although it's much too late to do anything about it :)

There's a feature-length "Diagnosis Murder" on BBC1 today at 1:00pm. However, SP or AWL for the show will not pick it up as it has been called "Diagnosis OF Murder". However, this same 'error' is shown in DigiGuide too, so I'm wondering if the title is actually correct? :confused:

The point about SPs and AWL still stands, though :)

Addendum:
My printed TV mag has it as "Diagnosis Murder", though.

[pahunt]

Originally posted by cwaring
Okay, this is a strange one, although it's much too late to do anything about it :)

There's a feature-length "Diagnosis Murder" on BBC1 today at 1:00pm. However, SP or AWL for the show will not pick it up as it has been called "Diagnosis OF Murder". However, this same 'error' is shown in DigiGuide too, so I'm wondering if the title is actually correct? :confused:


The point about SPs and AWL still stands, though :)

Addendum:
My printed TV mag has it as "Diagnosis Murder", though.

Just seen the opening credits and it definitely says Diagnosis OF Murder

[Cams]

Postcode EH47
Service Provider Freeview
Channel Name BBC2SCD
Channel Number 2
Programme Name Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Time/Date of airing 22December 2003 19:15
Problem encountered Not On schedule BBC2SCD schedule is in fact BBC2 for rest of UK

[Cams]

I know I've posted in the wrong place

MOD EDIT: merged with correct thread

[AENG]

SG17
Freeview
Ch4 Channel 4
Monday 22 Dec 7.30 pm
Galileo's Daughter

Just noticed this is classified as "Chat show" - Don't know what my recording this is going to do to future suggestions!

[cwaring]

Certainly in England, "Buffy" finished last Thursday; Wednesday in Scotland.

[warwick]

I'm an AB postcode, but tivoweb for BBC2SCD on my freeview Tivo lists the following for 22/12 evening:

6:00 pm Never So Few Never So Few
8:00 pm University Challenge UNKNOWN
8:30 pm The Good Life Silly, but It's Fun
9:00 pm Dead Ringers Christmas Special
9:30 pm The Kumars at No. 42 UNKNOWN
10:00 pm Little Britain 22 December
10:30 pm Newsnight UNKNOWN
11:20 pm The British Seaside The British Seaside

My sky tivo reports exactly the same schedule.

I can only suggest forcing a daily call after which I believe tivo rebuilds it's guide data.

[cwaring]

Nice one, Tribune :(

Please can you inform your suppliers that all showings of "The One" currently scheduled to air on the Sky Movies channels are not the Jet Li film, but another one with the same name.

Some airings have the correct info but some (like the one currently showing, see below) do not!

FILM: The One
Channel: Sky Movies 6 406
Date: Monday 22nd December 2003
Time: 13:50 to 15:25 (32 minutes left)
Duration: 1 hour and 35 minutes.
Romantic comedy about a daydreaming chef who longs to meet the 'perfect' girl - but when he thinks he has found her, he finds himself hired to cater at her wedding to an ice-hockey hunk. However, he refuses to abandon hope of winning her heart.
Director: Ron Lagomarsino
Starring: Richard Ruccolo, Meredith Monroe, Gabriel Hogan, Jenny Levine, Adam Cabral
(Subtitles, 2003, PG)

Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.digiguide.com. Copyright ©1999-2003 GipsyMedia Ltd. Information copied from DigiGuide cannot be re-distributed, sold or used without prior written consent from GipsyMedia Ltd. All rights reserved.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by warwick
I'm an AB postcode, but tivoweb for BBC2SCD on my freeview Tivo lists the following for 22/12 evening:

6:00 pm Never So Few Never So Few
8:00 pm University Challenge UNKNOWN
8:30 pm The Good Life Silly, but It's Fun
9:00 pm Dead Ringers Christmas Special
9:30 pm The Kumars at No. 42 UNKNOWN
10:00 pm Little Britain 22 December
10:30 pm Newsnight UNKNOWN
11:20 pm The British Seaside The British Seaside

My sky tivo reports exactly the same schedule.

I can only suggest forcing a daily call after which I believe tivo rebuilds it's guide data. Just checked the schedules supplied for BBC2 Scotland and the analogue version has 'Buffy' listed at 7.15pm - but the digital version does not.

So it would seem that the BBC have not been too good with their data. Some listings have been provided with the wrong digital schedule.

Buffy is listed on BBC2SCO, but not BBC2SCD.

[sanderton]

Christmas inconsistencies between DigiGuide and Tivo:

Tue BBC2 23:20
TiVo: Time Shift
Digiguide: Children's News

Tue DISCOV 04:00
TiVo: Bilbo & Beyond
Digiguide: 21st Century War Machines

Fri SKYSP1 22:00
TiVo: WWE Late Night Raw
Digiguide: World Darts Championship

Tue SKYSP2 02:30
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: International Bowls

Tue SKYSP2 19:00
TiVo: Sports Unlimited
Digiguide: Pool

Tue SKYSP2 20:00
TiVo: Andy Roddick Special
Digiguide: Tennis

Wed SKYSP2 00:00
TiVo: Andy Roddick Special
Digiguide: Tennis

Wed SKYSP2 03:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Show Jumping

Wed SKYSP2 13:00
TiVo: Equestrian
Digiguide: Grand Prix Sailing

Wed SKYSP2 14:00
TiVo: Andy Roddick Special
Digiguide: Tennis

Thu SKYSP2 03:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Watersports World

Tue SKYSP3 03:30
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Gravity Games

Tue SKYSP3 06:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Northern Masters

Wed SKYSP3 05:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Northern Masters

Wed SKYSP3 06:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Sports Unlimited

Wed SKYSP3 09:30
TiVo: Andy Roddick Special
Digiguide: Tennis

Thu SKYSP3 05:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Football: Midland Masters

Thu SKYSP3 06:00
TiVo: What's On
Digiguide: Aerobics Oz Style

Thu BBC4 00:40
TiVo: Profile
Digiguide: The Brief: Ian Duncan Smith

Fri UKSTY 11:30
TiVo: House Invaders
Digiguide: Trading Up

Fri BBC1 01:05
TiVo: Christmas Message
Digiguide: Where's the Brass?

Fri BBC1 01:05
TiVo: Christmas Message
Digiguide: Where's the Brass?

Tue LIVING 23:00
TiVo: Scream Team
Digiguide: Almost Famous

Thu FXKIDS 13:30
TiVo: Goosebumps
Digiguide: Black Hole High

Sat BLOOMUK 05:00
TiVo: Market Movers
Digiguide: World Financial Report

Sat BLOOMUK 05:30
TiVo: City Diary
Digiguide: World Financial Report

Sat BLOOMUK 08:15
TiVo: Bloomberg on Sport
Digiguide: Food for Thought

Sat BLOOMUK 10:45
TiVo: Money, Media and More
Digiguide: Bloomberg Style

Sat BLOOMUK 11:45
TiVo: Bloomberg on Sport
Digiguide: Food for Thought

Sat BLOOMUK 14:15
TiVo: Money, Media and More
Digiguide: Bloomberg Style

Sat BLOOMUK 15:45
TiVo: Bloomberg on Sport
Digiguide: Food for Thought

Sat BLOOMUK 16:15
TiVo: Money, Media and More
Digiguide: Bloomberg Style

Sat BLOOMUK 19:45
TiVo: Money, Media and More
Digiguide: Bloomberg Style

Sat BLOOMUK 20:45
TiVo: Bloomberg on Sport
Digiguide: Food for Thought

Wed TCMUK 05:00
TiVo: The Secret Partner
Digiguide: Ringo and His Golden Pistol

Thu TCMUK 05:00
TiVo: Spartan Gladiators
Digiguide: The Secret Partner

Fri TCMUK 05:00
TiVo: Cairo
Digiguide: The Spartan Gladiators

Sat TCMUK 05:00
TiVo: Green Dolphin Street
Digiguide: Cairo

Wed SKYM1 06:25
TiVo: Barbie in the Nutcracker
Digiguide: It Runs in the Family

Tue DISC1 05:00
TiVo: Bilbo & Beyond
Digiguide: 21st Century War Machines

Thu DISC1 08:30
TiVo: He's Gotta Have It
Digiguide: Life on Mars With Alex James

Thu DISC1 18:00
TiVo: He's Gotta Have It
Digiguide: Life on Mars With Alex James

Thu HISTY 23:00
TiVo: History Undercover
Digiguide: Airship Disasters

Fri HISTY 16:00
TiVo: History Undercover
Digiguide: Airship Disasters

Thu NATGEO 22:00
TiVo: Nova
Digiguide: Mars

Tue CHALL 22:25
TiVo: What's That All About?
Digiguide: Kenji's Video Letter Home

Wed CHALL 19:00
TiVo: Incredible Edible Challenge
Digiguide: Kenji's Video Letter Home

Wed CHALL 22:25
TiVo: What's That All About?
Digiguide: Kenji's Video Letter Home

Thu CHALL 19:00
TiVo: Incredible Edible Challenge
Digiguide: Kenji's Video Letter Home

Thu CHALL 19:25
TiVo: What's That All About?
Digiguide: Kenji's Video Letter Home

Fri CHALL 22:25
TiVo: What's That All About?
Digiguide: Kenji's Video Letter Home

Sat CHALL 19:00
TiVo: Incredible Edible Challenge
Digiguide: Kenji's Video Letter Home

Sat CHALL 22:25
TiVo: What's That All About?
Digiguide: Kenji's Video Letter Home

Thu NICKJR 13:00
TiVo: The Little Bear Movie
Digiguide: Dora the Explorer

Thu SKYM4 20:35
TiVo: Sky Shorts
Digiguide: Standing Room Only

Thu SKYM3 00:25
TiVo: Speaking of Sex
Digiguide: Stuart Little 2

Thu SKYM3 17:00
TiVo: Bonus: Peter Pan
Digiguide: Movie News

Sat SKYM7 22:15
TiVo: Bonus: Top Ten Winners Weekend
Digiguide: The Mean Machine

Thu FXKID1 14:30
TiVo: Goosebumps
Digiguide: Black Hole High

Thu NATG1 23:00
TiVo: Nova
Digiguide: Mars

Wed SKYSPX 00:00
TiVo: Sailing
Digiguide: Fastrax

Tue DISSCI 01:00
TiVo: Mend It Like Beckham
Digiguide: The Science of Christmas

Fri DISSCI 17:30
TiVo: Discover Magazine
Digiguide: Wonders of Weather

Fri DISSCI 22:30
TiVo: Discover Magazine
Digiguide: Wonders of Weather

Wed DTRAV 21:00
TiVo: Ride the Wild Surf
Digiguide: America's Most Haunted Places

Wed DWINGS 22:00
TiVo: Extreme Machines
Digiguide: Ultimate Space Machines

Thu DWINGS 01:00
TiVo: Extreme Machines
Digiguide: Ultimate Space Machines

Sat DISNEY1 07:25
TiVo: Timon & Pumbaa
Digiguide: 101 Dalmatians

Tue DISPLY 08:23
TiVo: Music Time
Digiguide: Classic Toon

Tue DISPLY 09:58
TiVo: Story Garden
Digiguide: Jasper

Wed DISPLY 08:23
TiVo: Music Time
Digiguide: Classic Toon

Wed DISPLY 09:58
TiVo: Story Garden
Digiguide: Jasper

Thu DISPLY 09:58
TiVo: Story Garden
Digiguide: Jasper

Thu DISPLY 14:53
TiVo: Music Time
Digiguide: Classic Toon

Thu DISPLY 16:28
TiVo: Story Garden
Digiguide: Jasper

Fri DISPLY 08:23
TiVo: Music Time
Digiguide: Classic Toon

Fri DISPLY 09:58
TiVo: Story Garden
Digiguide: Jasper

Sat DISPLY 08:23
TiVo: Music Time
Digiguide: Classic Toon

Sat DISPLY 09:58
TiVo: Story Garden
Digiguide: Jasper

[ozsat]

Originally posted by sanderton
Christmas inconsistencies between DigiGuide and Tivo:

Tue BBC2 23:20
TiVo: Time Shift
Digiguide: Children's NewsIt's the same programme - Time Shift: Children's News

Fri SKYSP1 22:00
TiVo: WWE Late Night Raw
Digiguide: World Darts ChampionshipWWE Late Night Raw is on at 22:00 on SKYSP2 according to Digiguide and at 21:00 on SKYSPX according to Sky's EPG. So who knows?

[cwaring]

Originally posted by sanderton
Christmas inconsistencies between DigiGuide and Tivo:
Tue BBC2 23:20
TiVo: Time Shift
Digiguide: Children's News

Originally posted by ozsat
[B]It's the same programme - Time Shift: Children's News

Indeed it is. In fact, according to my "TV Choice" printed listings guide, there are two programmes from 2330-0035, both under the programme name "Time Shift".

DOCUMENTARY: Children's News
Channel: BBC 2 North 102
Date: Tuesday 23rd December 2003
Time: 23:20 to 00:05 (starting in 1 day)
Duration: 45 minutes.
A look at the history of children's TV news, from the early newsreels of the 1950s to the hard-hitting programmes of today. Contributors include John Craven, Jon Snow and Liza Mzimba.
(Subtitles)

then

DOCUMENTARY: Heath Robinson: Suburban Subversive
Channel: BBC 2 North 102
Date: Wednesday 24th December 2003
Time: 00:05 to 00:35 (starting in 1 day)
Duration: 30 minutes.
Michael Rosen investigates the quietly subversive world of cartoonist William Heath Robinson, whose crazy contraptions send up the 20th century's blind faith in machines and technology. From his extraordinary cartoons of World War One which expose the absurdity of the technology of war to his mocking illustrations of middle class life-style and etiquette, Rosen reveals Heath Robinson as a suburban visionary.
(Subtitles)

[cwaring]

Can someone please confirm this is correct. From Sat 3/1/04 I have data for all channels except ITV1 (103 on TW Cable). Just seems a little odd. Should that appear this weekend?

[b166er]

I understand that in a lot of situations Tribune can't get more info out of the broadcasters, so this can result in generically marked episodes because they have no idea what episode it is. The following is unacceptable though.

I woke up this morning to find that TiVo had recorded an episode of a show for me from E4 (Sky 205), then an hour later it recorded the very same episode from E4+1 (Sky 206). Even without any information at all from the broadcaster surely they realize when producing the listings that everything on the +1 marked channels is the same as it's sister channel but shifted by an hour.

I would have thought that if you have the program's specific information, then mark it in the description and TiVo will not have done what I described above. If however you have no information, then mark the E4 episode generically, and then mark the E4+1 show one hour later as being first broadcast one hour earlier on the other channel. Is this logical? They'd only do it when they have no other information about the episode.

[SteveA]

Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 4, 104 etc
Television Provider: All
Programme Name: Rather Good Videos
Time: Usually Wednesdays, various times between 11pm and 4pm

As far as I can tell, every time this show is shown, its new. However, TiVo Guide Data just treats them as repeats, so will only record one a month if left unattended!

[kitschcamp]

Channel Name: Eurosport
Channel Number: 412
Provider: Sky
Programme Name(s):
World Rally Championship Raid
World Rally Championship
Dates: From 1st January, daily for three weeks.

The Paris Dakar Rally is being lumped into two difference series (the latter is especially inappropriate) and with two different episode titles "Dakar Rally" and "2004 Dakar Rally".

Can they put into one or the other (or even better a new series as it is on every year) with just one title, please?

[Richardr]

Postcode AL3
BBC1LDN

Outtake TV (7:30 tonight) isn't going to record as TIVO thinks it is a repeat of yesterday's Weakest Link blooper show.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Richardr
Postcode AL3
BBC1LDN

Outtake TV (7:30 tonight) isn't going to record as TIVO thinks it is a repeat of yesterday's Weakest Link blooper show. It didn't record on my Sky+ either - as the BBC N&N triggers were stuck - which seems happens quite often during the evenings.

Anyway - it was a repeat of all the bloopers you see on BBC shows - just a different presenter.

[tivodavo]

Postcode CH44

Morcambe and Wise CH5 listed as 2030 - 2130 and was actually 2100 - 2200

[Toothy]

Not really sure if here is the best place for this...or the channel errors thread. :o


Postcode: DG1

Service Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: MTV Dance

Channel Number: 444

Programme Name: All

Time/Date Of Airing: Anytime

Problem: It`s impossible to record this channel via the remote Record button. TiVo tries and does record Channel 440 instead. See pic. It is MTV Dance I`m viewing, see channel ID on top left of picture.

http://www.btinternet.com/~mil1401/Pix/dance.jpg

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Toothy

Problem: It`s impossible to record this channel via the remote [b]Record button. TiVo tries and does record Channel 440 instead. See pic. It is MTV Dance I`m viewing, see channel ID on top left of picture. It seems like a problem with your TiVo setup - I can not reproduce the problem here (without messing about).

Ensure the 'Channels I Receive' has the correct details and does not have an old MTVDANCE selected on 440.

Your TiVo either thinks 440 is the default MTV Dance - or is already on 440 due to a mistype send of 440 comnig out as 444.

[threadkiller]

not sure if this is premature or not, Digiguide lists The Handler starting on Sky1 Jan 24th 20:00, Tivo has this listed as being Kirsty's Home Video's

[ozsat]

Originally posted by threadkiller
not sure if this is premature or not, Digiguide lists The Handler starting on Sky1 Jan 24th 20:00, Tivo has this listed as being Kirsty's Home Video's I would like to know how you have managed to get TiVo to show you the schedules for Jan 24th - today being 28th Dec and you only having 21 days max. listings.

[threadkiller]

I used the digiguide module for inserting recordings, set a season pass for Jake 2.0 on the 14th, and when trying to do The Handler, it came up with a conflict for Kirsty's home vids.

Did a search on Kirsty from Tivoweb & it listed it as an episode on the 24th.

I'll post some screen shots when I get home.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by threadkiller
I used the digiguide module for inserting recordings, set a season pass for Jake 2.0 on the 14th, and when trying to do The Handler, it came up with a conflict for Kirsty's home vids.

Did a search on Kirsty from Tivoweb & it listed it as an episode on the 24th.

I'll post some screen shots when I get home. Sounds like a bug (or feature) of the module - as TiVo has not yet provided the listings that far ahead.

Perhaps the module assumes a previous week's schedule until the correct version is available.

[pahunt]

Obviously this change was far too late for Tribune to have done anything about it but BBC2 are showing Room 101 with Bob Monkhouse tonight at 11.30pm.

[threadkiller]

Originally posted by ozsat
Sounds like a bug (or feature) of the module - as TiVo has not yet provided the listings that far ahead.

Perhaps the module assumes a previous week's schedule until the correct version is available. you were right. A search through the TIVO listings stops at the 17th,

however looking at the 14th, the listings for Sky1 look correct, except for 20:00 which again shows Kirsty, when according to Sky mag, should be the first episode of Jake 2.0.

Being extremely new to this, is this too soon for the listings to be correct? am I jumping the gun?

[ozsat]

Originally posted by threadkiller
you were right. A search through the TIVO listings stops at the 17th,

however looking at the 14th, the listings for Sky1 look correct, except for 20:00 which again shows Kirsty, when according to Sky mag, should be the first episode of Jake 2.0.

Being extremely new to this, is this too soon for the listings to be correct? am I jumping the gun? The original listings from Sky have Jake 2.0 on 14th January - I don't have time to wade through their amendments anymore.

It may have been replaced - but if it had then Digiguide would normally be correct. I guess it is most likely an error at Tribune.

However, Digiguide still has "TBA" at 9pm - and this was updated by Sky to 'Sister Act 2' a long time ago.

So I would say it is too early to accept either a reliable. :(

[threadkiller]

Cheers Ozsat, They say patience is a virtue, & I have no virtues ;)

[cwaring]

For anyone who wondered what happened to the above show that was supposed to be on today, I have just received the following reply from the someone at channel. Quoted verbatim:


The Hollywood Machine is scheduled for and will transmit on UK Horizons
at the following dates/times:

Ep 1: 02/01/04 @ 1900
Ep 2: 01/01/04 @ 1230
Ep 3 02/01/04 @ 1230

If you wish to watch these programmes on Horizons Plus 1 they will be at
2000, 1330, 1330 each day.

Episode 1 was due to go out today at 1230 (UK Horizons) but we had some
compliance problems so regrettably the schuduler had to make some last
minute changes yesterday afternoon.

Please accept our apologies and I hope it didn't inconvenience you too
much. Enjoy the series tomorrow and Friday and Happy New Year.

[pmk]

Do not know if TiVo sorts this or not but Dawsons Creek new series is on FIVE not C4 on Sat 3rd 2004 at 13:55. My old SP still had C4 listed but it may still have recorded off FIVE.

Check out the New Series thread for more new programmes etc. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81956

I still think this is one of the most useful threads and would be best in the main TiVo UK forum instead of hiding away in the UK Chit Chat forum where 99% of people never look and therefore making it impossible to keep up to date and useful.

HTH

[cwaring]

SPs are channel-specific and therefore a new one will be required for DC on Five.

[pahunt]

Originally posted by pmk
Do not know if TiVo sorts this or not but Dawsons Creek new series is on FIVE not C4 on Sat 3rd 2004 at 13:55. My old SP still had C4 listed but it may still have recorded off FIVE.

This is why I prefer wishlists to season passes as then it doesn't matter if the program moves channel.

[Toothy]

I think I`ve figured this out, as I`ve been able to reproduce this bug several times. :(

Channel surfing with TiVo is too slow (selecting Live TV Guide to select the next channel), so I press AUX and select channels with the Sky remote.

When I find a music channel say, I want to record, I press Record on the Tivo remote, TiVo changes channels to the new channel...but the Onscreen banner is the original channel I started from...say six channels back.

So the recording is from the correct channel but the listings/episode details in Now Playing are all wrong.

To correct this, I have to input the channel number manually, effectively changing the channel twice.


OzSat: due to a misskey - it says I've edited this post - but it should still be the same - sorry

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Toothy

I think I`ve figured this out, as I`ve been able to reproduce this bug several times. :(
Sorry Toothy, but that is not a bug. That is User Error. Tivo canot be held responsible if you change the channel using your Sky remote and not Tivo's own. Use it as it was intended and it will work fine :)

Channel surfing with TiVo is too slow (selecting Live TV Guide to select the next channel), so I press AUX and select channels with the Sky remote.
You shouldn't be doing it that way.

When I find a music channel say, I want to record, I press Record on the Tivo remote, TiVo changes channels to the new channel...
No it doesn't. It simply starts recording from the channel it last seletected; ie the one it thinks it's on. How is it to know that you've changed the channel with your Sky RC?

...but the Onscreen banner is the original channel I started from...say six channels back.
Yes. This is correct. Tivo still thinks it's on the other channel and so displays the info for that channel.

So the recording is from the correct channel but the listings/episode details in Now Playing are all wrong.
Due to the fact that you changed the channel with the Sky RC and not Tivo's!

To correct this, I have to input the channel number manually, effectively changing the channel twice.
Which you wouldn't have to do it you used Tivo correctly in the first place.

Next time you want to change the channel on Live TV, try putting in the channel number directly, then press [enter]. This will change the channel instantly.

Why are you still watching Live TV anyway? :confused: :p :eek:

Edits for grammar and punctuation

[yonderblue]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
Channel Name: Eurosport
Channel Number: 412
Provider: Sky
Programme Name(s):
World Rally Championship Raid
World Rally Championship
Dates: From 1st January, daily for three weeks.

The Paris Dakar Rally is being lumped into two difference series (the latter is especially inappropriate) and with two different episode titles "Dakar Rally" and "2004 Dakar Rally".

Can they put into one or the other (or even better a new series as it is on every year) with just one title, please?

Channel Name:Eurosport
Channel Number: 521
Provider: Telewest
Programme Name(s): World Rally Championship

It's not called World Rally Championship it should be either Dakar Rally or 2004 Dakar Rally.

And go for it Colin McRae :)

[kitschcamp]

Nah, I'm sticking with my usual charge - Jutta! Jutta! Jutta!

[Azrikam]

Originally posted by cwaring
Next time you want to change the channel on Live TV, try putting in the channel number directly, then press [enter]. This will change the channel instantly.

Cheers, I didn't know about using Enter to speed up channel changing. (learn something new about TiVo every day)

[cwaring]

I only discovered it by accident myself :)

[woody]

an old one come back.

A SP set on 101 (BBC1) for eastenders as priority, a second SP set on 115 (BBC3) will also get recorded for all of next week.

I guess it also applies to freeview/cable users as well ask sky.

[Toothy]

Originally posted by cwaring
Why are you still watching Live TV anyway? :confused: :p :eek:

Edits for grammar and punctuation

Picture Quality...the picture through TiVo is atrocious. :(

EDIT: One question. :)

Why is the ToDo list dynamic??

Sometimes I have 3 weeks worth of data, then a few minutes later...only a few days worth. Sometimes my lasped/no upcoming SP appears as None Scheduled, then sometimes they don`t appear at all.

:confused:

[sanderton]

Originally posted by Toothy
Picture Quality...the picture through TiVo is atrocious. :(

EDIT: One question. :)

Why is the ToDo list dynamic??

Sometimes I have 3 weeks worth of data, then a few minutes later...only a few days worth. Sometimes my lasped/no upcoming SP appears as None Scheduled, then sometimes they don`t appear at all.

:confused:

Atrocious is a tad strong, Toothy. Unless you have a very big TV you'd be hard pressed to tell you were watching a TiVo without A/B switching. And IIRC your original question was about surfing the music channels - hardly a high quality video source!

Re the To Do List rebuilding - short answer is "it isn't" - I've never seen the kind of behaviour you describe. You may have a hardware problem of some kind, with disk errors forcing rebuilds?

Some TiVo screens are limited to 200 entries, could that explain the "missing" blank SPs?

[pahunt]

I have seen the To Do list become very short on occasion and then sort itself out again half an hour later. I've always assumed it was because the daily call had just finished and the guide data was being re-indexed.

[sjp]

i get the "short to do list" glitch quite a lot... i'd figured i was beating the lists compilation (a db select???) when "fast page downing" to get to the bottom of the To Do List (something i do regularly to see if any SP's have died off, something that has, on occassion, uncovered listings errors). it usually returns to normal length if given a few seconds before hitting the page down button.

try it sometime, it happens more than you'd expect.

stuart, the anally retentive one who likes seeing the bottom of his TDL.

[mrtickle]

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC2 + variants, UKG2
Channel Number: 102, 111
Programme Name: Room 101
Time/Date of airing: various, see below


Previously reported 18th December, still not fixed :(



This has been split into two Season Passes; it should be one. They are the same show.

The original Season Pass currently contains no episodes.

The new rogue SP currently contains:

Episode Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time TmsId
"Caroline Quentin"_ Sun 4th Jan 2004 ** UKGLD Sun 4th Jan 23:00 EP3261410031
"Caroline Quentin"_ Sun 4th Jan 2004 ** UKGLD1 Mon 5th Jan 00:00 EP3261410031

[plus many other episodes.]

* = "First Run"
** = marked as "First Run", but SHOULD NOT be!


Please can you remove the rogue SP and put the episodes back into the original Season Pass.


=====================

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC2 + variants, BBC3
Channel Number: 102, 115
Programme Name: Little Britain
Time/Date of airing: various, see below


Previously reported 18th December, still not fixed :(



This has been split into two Season Passes; it should be one. They are the same show.

The original Season Pass currently contains:

Episode Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time TmsId
"5 January"_ Mon 5th Jan 2004 BBC2 Mon 5th Jan 22:00 EP6250070006

[plus many other episodes.]


The new rogue SP currently contains:

Episode Num Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time TmsId
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Mon 5th Jan 22:30 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Tue 6th Jan 01:15 SH5547110000
(info) _ Thu 2nd Jan 2003 BBC3 Tue 13th Jan 01:25 SH5547110000


Please can you remove the rogue SP and put the episodes back into the original Season Pass.

Also, there are no Episode details for any of the BBC3 showings. Normally this is because the BBC don't provide the data - but they are providing it for BBC2, so they should be able to provide it for BBC3 as well. Please ask them again?


=====================

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC 3 (SKYONE), BBC News 24 (BBC24)
Channel Number: 115, 507
Programme Name: Liquid News
Time/Date of airing: various, see below

Yet another one! This has been split into two Season Passes, with a new rogue Season Pass called "Liquid News With Claudia and Paddy". This is wrong. The programme is called "Liquid News" and it's the same show; it should be put back into the original Season Pass please.


The original Season Pass currently only contains News 24 episodes - all the BBC3 episodes have been stripped out:

Episode Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time IsEp TmsId
(info) Tue 30th May 2000 BBC24 Sun 4th Jan 06:30 False SH3814460000
(info) Tue 30th May 2000 BBC24 Sun 4th Jan 21:30 False SH3814460000
(info) Tue 30th May 2000 BBC24 Sat 10th Jan 06:30 False SH3814460000
(info) Tue 30th May 2000 BBC24 Sun 11th Jan 06:30 False SH3814460000
(info) Tue 30th May 2000 BBC24 Sun 11th Jan 21:30 False SH3814460000
(info) Tue 30th May 2000 BBC24 Sat 17th Jan 06:30 False SH3814460000
(info) Tue 30th May 2000 BBC24 Sun 18th Jan 06:30 False SH3814460000
(info) Tue 30th May 2000 BBC24 Sun 18th Jan 21:30 False SH3814460000


The new rogue SP currently contains:

Episode Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time IsEp TmsId
"5 January" Mon 5th Jan 2004 BBC3 Mon 5th Jan 19:30 True EP6237460012
"5 January" Mon 5th Jan 2004 BBC3 Tue 6th Jan 00:15 True EP6237460012
"5 January" Mon 5th Jan 2004 BBC3 Tue 6th Jan 03:15 True EP6237460012

"6 January" Tue 6th Jan 2004 BBC3 Tue 6th Jan 19:30 True EP6237460013
"6 January" Tue 6th Jan 2004 BBC3 Tue 6th Jan 23:55 True EP6237460013
"6 January" Tue 6th Jan 2004 BBC3 Wed 7th Jan 03:25 True EP6237460013

"7 January" Wed 7th Jan 2004 BBC3 Wed 7th Jan 19:30 True EP6237460014
"7 January" Wed 7th Jan 2004 BBC3 Wed 7th Jan 23:50 True EP6237460014
"7 January" Wed 7th Jan 2004 BBC3 Thu 8th Jan 03:15 True EP6237460014

"8 January" Thu 8th Jan 2004 BBC3 Thu 8th Jan 19:30 True EP6237460015
"8 January" Thu 8th Jan 2004 BBC3 Fri 9th Jan 00:00 True EP6237460015
"8 January" Thu 8th Jan 2004 BBC3 Fri 9th Jan 03:25 True EP6237460015

"12 January" Mon 12th Jan 2004 BBC3 Mon 12th Jan 19:30 True EP6237460016
"12 January" Mon 12th Jan 2004 BBC3 Tue 13th Jan 00:00 True EP6237460016
"12 January" Mon 12th Jan 2004 BBC3 Tue 13th Jan 03:25 True EP6237460016

"13 January" Tue 13th Jan 2004 BBC3 Tue 13th Jan 19:30 True EP6237460017
"13 January" Tue 13th Jan 2004 BBC3 Wed 14th Jan 00:00 True EP6237460017
"13 January" Tue 13th Jan 2004 BBC3 Wed 14th Jan 03:25 True EP6237460017

"14 January" Wed 14th Jan 2004 BBC3 Wed 14th Jan 19:30 True EP6237460018
"14 January" Wed 14th Jan 2004 BBC3 Thu 15th Jan 00:00 True EP6237460018
"14 January" Wed 14th Jan 2004 BBC3 Thu 15th Jan 03:25 True EP6237460018

"15 January" Thu 15th Jan 2004 BBC3 Thu 15th Jan 19:30 True EP6237460019
"15 January" Thu 15th Jan 2004 BBC3 Fri 16th Jan 00:00 True EP6237460019
"15 January" Thu 15th Jan 2004 BBC3 Fri 16th Jan 03:25 True EP6237460019


The guide data is good, but it's all in the wrong series. Please can you remove the rogue SP and put the episodes back into the original Season Pass. Ta.

[dazla]

Channel Name: Channel 4
Channel Number: 4, 104 etc
Television Provider: All
Programme Name: The Salon
Time: Monday to Friday 7am and 6pm

From 12th Jan onwards, my Season Pass is showing the repeat episode as the 6pm show. This should be the 7am show (which is a repeat of the previous nights episode).

Dazla

[alphabeta]

Folks,

As per this thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=151811) here is a post to raise the problem of the category used for "Radio 4" programmes

- SL6 5DD
- Sky
- Radio 4
- Channel 854
- All programmes
- All times
- Problem: Wrong category

All Radio 4 programme listings currently show "Chat Show" as the category. Could the category either be set to match the programme content or set to some "unknown" default value.

For people (eg outside the UK) who are not familiar with Radio 4's output it in fact broadcasts a huge range of material including drama, comedy, news, game shows etc.

[sanderton]

Property People
BBC 2
Wed 7th
9pm

New series, but not set up as a series so can't set SP.

[sanderton]

Property People
BBC 2
Wed 7th
9pm

New series, but not set up as a series so can't set SP.

[Azrikam]

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but here's a partial list of channels with no guide data at all. Personally, I'd really like to see the foreign channels filled in, along with Classics TV.

Postcode: W10
Platform: Sky Digital

238 - BIGENT
247 - Classics TV
265 - Rapture
271 - AFCTV
277 - Nation 277
280 - OBE
283 - Game in TV
431 - iSports
634 - TV Shop
635 - Ideal World
636 - Price Drop TV
638 - Travel Deals
642 - Simply Entertainment
648 - Thomas Cook
651 - Auction World
663 - FActory Outlet 2
664 - JML Direct
666 - Auction World
667 - Goldshield Vitality
669 - Going Places
670 - Factory Outlet TV
695 - Create and Craft
696 - Exchange and Mart
807 - Muslim TV
824 - Abu Dhabi TV
827 - Asia TV
828 - Vectone Urdu
829 - SAB TV
830 - Record Internacional
831 - Vectone Hindi
832 - Vectone Tamil
833 - Vectone Bangla

[bobnick]

Do you think many people wish they could set up a season pass for JML Direct and price drop TV then?

[RPG]

Im not sure if its been covered, but one thing annoys me is a lack of Shedules for The Amp.

They have a 30min program on all about new music from XFM, and i usually always miss it :( thats why i bought a tivo in the first place!

[ozsat]

Originally posted by Azrikam
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but here's a partial list of channels with no guide data at all. Personally, I'd really like to see the foreign channels filled in, along with Classics TV. TiVo provides schedules for most of the channels which can be bothered to provide up-to-date schedules on a regular basis.

It is a contractual agreement that channels provide Sky the EPG infomation - but some of the channels now don't even bother to provide Sky with updated data.

If the channels want their schedules provided - then they can release them through the usual companies who provide the listings to Tribune, Digiguide, etc.

As they don't - we must assume they do not want their schedules listed.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by ozsat
If the channels want their schedules provided - then they can release them through the usual companies who provide the listings to Tribune, Digiguide, etc.

As they don't - we must assume they do not want their schedules listed.

In other words, stopo blaming Tivo/Tribune :rolleyes: :)

[mrtickle]

Originally posted by ozsat
It is a contractual agreement that channels provide Sky the EPG infomation - but some of the channels now don't even bother to provide Sky with updated data.


I'd like to see these channels booted off the Sky EPG for every day they don't provide listings - or perhaps even just for the duration of each programme where the broadcast doesn't match the EPG! Perhaps that would be a first step to them waking up and smelling coffee.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by mrtickle
I'd like to see these channels booted off the Sky EPG for every day they don't provide listings - or perhaps even just for the duration of each programme where the broadcast doesn't match the EPG! Perhaps that would be a first step to them waking up and smelling coffee. I think some of them do not know what they are going to show in about 2-3 days time.

Sky have no control over who goes into the EPG - as long as the bills are paid.

Throwing such channels off will cause lost entries for BBC and (even more so) ITV - during times of late changes. ITV do not provide up-to-the-hour EPG info.

[Fatbloke]

I noticed that this evenings episode of 'Down To Earth' (BBC1) is not in my ToDo list, despite the season pass being set up.
I checked the upcoming episodes and it shows next week's ep. but no todays. Manual setup required folks.

DRAMA: Down to Earth
Channel: BBC 1
Date: Sunday 4th January 2004
Time: 20:00 to 21:00 (starting this evening)
Duration: 1 hour.
Still Waters.
Bittersweet drama series following a family adjusting to rural life. Frankie accuses an inspector of racism when their organic certificate is knocked back. A car chase leads Matt to uncover the truth behind their mysterious B&B guest. Newly installed pub landlord, Tony Murphy, is in for the biggest shock of his life.
Starring: Ian Kelsey, Angela Griffin, Ricky Tomlinson, Denise Welch, Inga Brooksby, Charlotte Redpath
(New Series, Widescreen, Subtitles, 4 Star)

[bignoise]

Erm.. This is odd. For some reason a number of the BBC Radio listings for January 22nd contain programmes from Christmas and New Year's Eve. At first I thought Radio 2 were just being wacky and repeating their new year's show, but as I noticed this appearing more and more throughout the schedules (including the 'Loose Ends Christmas Special' apparently on Thursday 22nd Jan at 10am on Radio 4) I started to suspect that the TiVo data is not all that it should be..

[Azrikam]

Originally posted by ozsat
If the channels want their schedules provided - then they can release them through the usual companies who provide the listings to Tribune, Digiguide, etc.

I know TiVo owners aren't exactly a large percentage of the market, but when you consider how low the ratings for some of these channels are, you think they'd want every viewer they can get. Guess not.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by bignoise
Erm.. This is odd. For some reason a number of the BBC Radio listings for January 22nd contain programmes from Christmas and New Year's Eve. At first I thought Radio 2 were just being wacky and repeating their new year's show, but as I noticed this appearing more and more throughout the schedules (including the 'Loose Ends Christmas Special' apparently on Thursday 22nd Jan at 10am on Radio 4) I started to suspect that the TiVo data is not all that it should be.. My guess is the database is defaulting to a previous week before the new data (which has only just been released) overwrites it.

[cwaring]

Not sure whether this is faulty data. Can someone else check it for me. I'll explain in a minute.


- Postcode: WF1
- Service Provider: Telewest
- Channel Name: E4
- Channel Number: 144
- Programme Name: ER
- Time/Date of airing: Thurs 15/1/04, 9:30pm & 10:30pm (2 eps)
- Problem encountered: Won't schedule to record

Now, in my case, this could be due to clashes as "Red Cap" and "Charmed" are both also on around that time. However, there is no entry in the "Recording History" for either episode. The OADs given are both 12/03 (7th & 14th to be exact) so this is probably the reason. (Is that the US or Irish OAD?)

Anyway, if someone (who is recording neither "Red Cap" or "Charmed") could just confirm this for me, thanks.

[mrtickle]

Those OADs mean that it isn't marked as a First Run - there are more than 30 days between the OAD and broadcast. If you have a FRO Season Pass, you won't get it scheduled and you won't get an entry in Recording History.

[cwaring]

Yep. That's what I thought. Hopefully Tribune can fix it before too long. I'll call them later today :)

[Smid]

Postcode: WV6
Service Provider: Telewest Digital
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 132
Programme Name: Seinfeld
Time/Date of airing: 05 Jan 2003, scheduled: 10:00am real time: 1:30pm
Problem encountered: Tivo schedule not updated to new Paramount Comedy
lineup. Seinfeld has moved from 10am to 1:30pm.

[AENG]

SG7
Freeview
Ch 10 BBC4
15 January 10:00 p.m.
The Alan Clark Diaries

This is not flagged to enable a series pass (it's the first of 6 episodes).

[Adder]

Postcode: GU2
Provifder: BSkyB UK
Channel: 416 MOTORS
Time: 6 Jan 2.30pm and various this month onwards
Name: Thoroughbred Grand Prix 2003

Genres listed are "Equestrian, Sports Event" should be "Motor Racing, Sports Event" this is a series about old Formula 1 cars not horses! Don't want to thumb it up as I am not a fan of horses, but I do like old F1 cars. ;)

[bobnick]

That's great!

Perhaps whilst they're fixing that error, they can put some accurate OADs into Rail Cops on BBC1 - the series is being repeated at present, but even though Tribune had the data last year, they've given the episodes new OADs.

[LJ]

- Postcode: RH10
- Service Provider: Sky D
- Channel Name: BBC1
- Channel Number: 101
- Programme Name: "BBC News; Weather; Regional News"
- Time/Date of airing: Weekdays 13:00
- Problem encountered: A season pass for the 1 o'clock News has now started recording the 15:20 bulletin as well. Please can the 15:20 News be removed. Thanks.

[steford]

Postcode: W5
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 105
Programme Name: Seinfeld
Time/Date of airing: 05 Jan 2003, scheduled: 10:00am real time: 1:30pm
Problem encountered: Tivo schedule not updated to new Paramount Comedy lineup. Seinfeld has moved *again* from 10am to 1:30pm daily. Thank god for Paramount2 repeats.

[ozsat]

Originally posted by steford
Problem encountered: Tivo schedule not updated to new Paramount Comedy lineup. Seinfeld has moved *again* from 10am to 1:30pm daily. Thank god for Paramount2 repeats. It seems that Paramount haven't distributed the new schedule to listings companies. :(

[sanderton]

Alan Clarke Diaries
Channel 10 BBC4
Showing Date Thu 15th Jan 22:00
Episode Description Adapted from his best-selling diaries, John Hurt as Alan Clark lays bare personal and political landmarks of the time with unique wit and candour in the first of a major six part drama.

Not set up as a series so can't set Season Pass.

[sanderton]

Property People
Channel 2 BBC2
Showing Date Wed 14th Jan 21:00

Still not set up as a series so can't set SP.

[steford]

Postcode: W5
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: UK Living
Channel Number: 111
Programme Name: Queer Eye for the Straight Guy
Time/Date of airing: All
Problem encountered: Names in programme episode titles do not relate to actual programme.

[Bones]

Postcode : SS5
Service Provider : Sky Digital
Channel Name : Granada Men & Motors (GMM)
Channel Number : 139
Programme Name : Bikes Aloud

Time/Date of airing : Various

Problem encountered : SP picks up the occasional "new" episode and most if not all repeat showings of the same episode - I presume Tivo thinks every showing is a different episide, as opposed to the numerous daily repeats GMM are airing...

TiVo programme guide shows all episodes as having an OAD of 1/11/03

Date Time Repeat & 1st Run SP Record?
07/01 18:30 Yes
08/01 12:30 Yes
08/01 20:30
09/01 15:30 Yes
10/01 18:30
11/01 12:30 Yes
14/01 18:30 Yes
15/01 12:30 Yes
15/01 20:30 Yes
16/01 15:30 Yes
17/01 18:30 Yes
18/01 12:30 Yes
21/01 18:30 Yes
22/01 12:30 Yes
22/01 20:30 Yes
23/01 15:30 Yes
24/01 18:30 Yes
25/01 12:30 Yes

I don't know the GMM schedule, but the last few episodes Tivo recorded were identical :(

[manolan]

Star Trek: Enterprise
Ch 4

Upcoming episodes don't identify the mid-week repeats as being the same episodes as the weekend ones, so they're all showing up in To Do List.

[cwaring]

When I called Tivo CS to report the problem with the OADs for "ER", I was told that they were aware of it and were in the process of fixing it.

Well, it's still not been fixed :(

As there are currently no old episodes scheduled, I know I could change it to a FR&R SP, but that defeats the object of a FR SP :)

(Yeah! I know! "Shut up and change the [expletive deleted] SP" ;))

[mrtickle]

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC2 + variants, UKG2
Channel Number: 102, 111
Programme Name: Room 101
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme


Previously reported 18th December 2003, 3rd Jan 2004, still not fixed. :(


The new rogue SP still has guide data, with more and more episode being added to it.
The correct SP currently has no episodes in it.

=====================

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC2 + variants, BBC3
Channel Number: 102, 115
Programme Name: Little Britain
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme


Previously reported 18th December, 3rd Jan 2004, still not fixed :(


The new rogue SP still has one episode in it:
BBC3 Tue 13th Jan 01:25 False SH5547110000

The good news though is that there are some episodes after 13th Jan being added to the correct SP:
BBC3 Tue 13th Jan 21:00 False SH6250070000
BBC3 Wed 14th Jan 01:25 False SH6250070000
BBC3 Fri 16th Jan 23:00 False SH6250070000
BBC2 Mon 19th Jan 22:00 True EP6250070008

However there is still no episodic information for the BBC3 episodes.


=====================

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC 3 (SKYONE), BBC News 24 (BBC24)
Channel Number: 115, 507
Programme Name: Liquid News
Problem type: Multiple Season Passes for same programme


Previously reported 3rd Jan 2004, still not fixed :(

[mrtickle]

Provider: Sky Digital (England setup)
Channel name/callsign: BBC2 + variants, BBC1 + variants
Channel Number: 102, 101
Programme Name: Film 2004 With Jonathan Ross
Problem type: 28-day rule not working

The episodes on Saturday on BBC2 are repeats of the episode which aired the previous Tuesday on BBC1.
Currently if you have SPs on both channel you will get duplcates being recorded.

eg these two should be the same:

Episode Num Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time IsEp TmsId
"13 January" Tue 13th Jan 2004 BBC1LDN Tue 13th Jan 23:35 True EP6335960001
(no title) Sat 17th Jan 2004 BBC2 Sat 17th Jan 13:00 True EP6335960003


Please can you fix so that BBC2 above is EP6335960001, thanks.

[kitschcamp]

Programme: Jake 2.0
Channel: Sky One and Sky One Mix
Platform: Sky

Problem is if you've set up a season pass on the episodes that appeared earlier this week, they've now gone. There are no upcoming episodes of Jake 2.0 listed at all. Digiguide lists them on

24/1 Sky One 17:00
25/1 Sky Mix 20:00
28/1 Sky One 20:00
...

[CarlWalters]

Postcode: RG4
Service Provider: NTL Digital
Channel Name: Paramount Comedy
Channel Number: 400
Programme Name: Seinfeld
Time/Date of airing: 09 Jan 2003, scheduled: 10:00am real time: 1:30pm
Problem encountered: Tivo schedule not updated to new Paramount Comedy lineup.


This problem is still not fixed. Now someone remind me what the £10 a month is for? :(

[sjp]

Originally posted by kitschcamp
Programme: Jake 2.0
Channel: Sky One and Sky One Mix
Platform: Sky

Problem is if you've set up a season pass on the episodes that appeared earlier this week, they've now gone. There are no upcoming episodes of Jake 2.0 listed at all. Digiguide lists them on

24/1 Sky One 17:00
25/1 Sky Mix 20:00
28/1 Sky One 20:00
...

been keeping an eye on this as I don't believe Sky would be trailing it to the extent they are if they'd decided to start it off in a non-primetime slot... Until it's in the Sky EPG I don't think we'll really know what is happening as even DigiGuide is a little confused over the episode order, Sat 24th = S1E2, Wed 28th = S1E3, Sat 31st = repeat of S1E3 and Thu Feb 12th = S1E1.

my guess, Wednesday 21st at 8pm though I do wonder if DG is partially correct with S1E1 on Feb 12th.

confused, join the club

edited to add

further sky sourced waffle... this needs a good looking at as any bad OADs may screw up the recording of the actual episode when it eventually arrives

http://www.skyone.co.uk/programmes/features.asp?fID=Jake2.0_feature&prog=14

[LJ]

Yeay for WishLists! :D

[cwaring]

Originally posted by CarlWalters
This problem is still not fixed.
It was only reported on the 7th!!! Please remember that any changes take three (working) days to come through after the database has been updated and that they can't do every update at once.

Now someone remind me what the £10 a month is for? :(
SP and Wishlist functionality and a mostly accurate EPG :)

I am not saying your comments aren't valid, I'm just saying give them enough time before jumping on them. Also, did you actually report the error to Tivo CS? (0870 241 8486) AFAIK, that is the official way that error should be reported.

[kitschcamp]

Originally posted by LJ
Yeay for WishLists! :D

Foolish me deleted the wishlist when the series appeared...

[mrtickle]

Sky have issued an amendment on their corporate listings website. Amendment 140 says
Wednesday 14 January
20.00 Delete: JAKE 2.0 - Pilot
Insert: KIRSTY'S HOME VIDEOS *New Episode*
Kirsty Gallacher fronts an outrageous video clips show packed with saucy footage and embarrassing moments sent in by the shameless public.

So I think it is correct that it isn't on this Wednesday.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by cwaring

Please remember that any changes take three (working) days to come through

What? Database propagation shuts down on weekends and bank holidays? Their computers must belong to a great union! The worst case scenario seems to be a 72 hour delay between updating the listings in the US and our Tivo units dialing in.

Saying that, there don’t seem to have been a great deal of action to correct listing errors – one of them on this page has been outstanding for nearly 4 weeks.
I’m quite annoyed, as I’ve missed programs that Tivo should have recorded. Grr!

[cwaring]

Originally posted by bobnick
What? Database propagation shuts down on weekends and bank holidays?
I have no idea. I would presume that they (the humans who input the data) only do a basic 9-5 job, though.

The worst case scenario seems to be a 72 hour delay between updating the listings in the US and our Tivo units dialing in.
Yes, and a "best case" is three days, as I (and others previously) have mentioned.

[bobnick]

Originally posted by cwaring

I have no idea. I would presume that they (the humans who input the data) only do a basic 9-5 job, though.


Don't forget we're talking about how long changes take to come through, not how long it takes them to be noticed and manually changed.

[occitan]

Originally posted by AENG
SG7
Freeview
Ch 10 BBC4
15 January 10:00 p.m.
The Alan Clark Diaries

This is not flagged to enable a series pass (it's the first of 6 episodes).

Despite being posted here five days ago, the listings have still not been corrected, and this program is still not configured as a series.

Furthermore, future episodes have now started to appear in the BBC4 listings, but they contain the identical description as the first program, including the the phrase "the first in a six part series".

Please correct this ASAP...

[cwaring]

Originally posted by bobnick
Don't forget we're talking about how long changes take to come through, not how long it takes them to be noticed and manually changed.

I assume they'll "come through" as soon as they're changed, but it's the changing that takes the time.

Speaking of which....

Originally posted by occitan
Please correct this ASAP...
So you want this to be given a higher priority than every other change reported on here? That's nice of you :)

That's what I'm talking about with bobnick. You report something on here and it gets added to the bottom of the list. So, assuming that it's not a short list (as opposed to a short-list!) the changes might take some time to do.

[bobnick]

Indeed - I imagine it's quite a long list with all the errors about at the moment. Occitan did say please though, and it is one of the main shows that the BBC is promoting this week - I don't think he was wanting other people's problems to put on the back burner :)

Once the change has been made, there seems to be a delay between the change at Tribune and the server at Tivo being updated, and then there's the delay between changing the server data and your Tivo checking for data. That's why there's a 72 hour worst case scenario - but weekends don't affect it!

We've never been told how long the person who looks after our listings works on UK stuff - I doubt they're spending 40 hours a week on us.

[cwaring]

Indeed. I only quoted the "three day" thing as that is what Jim has always said in the past. I would also be interested to know what happens in a little more detail. Don't suppose we'll ever find out :)

[ozsat]

Remember that you have not officially reported a schedule problem until you have telephoned it to TiVo CS.

This thread is NOT an official way of reporting such problems - although is checked regularly by Tribune - on an unofficial basis.

[Toothy]

Postcode: DG1

Provider: Sky Digital

Channel Name: ITV1BOR

Channel Number: 103

Programme Name: The Premiership On Monday

Time/Date Of Airing: Mon 12/1 11:30 PM

Problem:

A SP for The Premiership broadcast on Saturdays, doesn`t pick up the Monday edition. Unless of course, I set up a wishlist, which defeats the whole object of SP`s. :p

Also the categories are wrong.......the Monday airing is listed as Chat Show, Sports, Non-Event....is should be Sports, Football, Non-Event.

The Saturday airing is different again.....it is listed as Football, Sports Talk, Chat Show...when again, it should probably be Sports, Football, Non-Event.

An 90min programme with probably only 12-17 minutes of `chat`, can hardly be described as a Chat/Talk Show.

Also using Search By Title, then Sports, Football, it lists the Saturday airing.....but NOT the Monday edition. :confused: :confused:

Oh and I don`t fancy calling TiVo CS, to report that lot. Would they understand the subtle differences in Categories?? :D

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Toothy
Oh and I don`t fancy calling TiVo CS...

Just don't complain if it's not fixed, then :)

[bobnick]

Shouldwe have to pay a national rate number (charged at a premium rate on my mobile) to dictate errors in our listing data - that's costing us 18 dollars a month already for? I don't think so!

[cwaring]

That's an easy one. Don't call them from your mobile!

[bobnick]

So don't call them from my mobile, and don't post errors here? What else am I supposed to do - pop up to Scotland and tell them, or write them a letter ;)

[Steve_K]

A new season description error

Tribune have issued a new series code for BBC Neighbours from Jan 19th so any current season pass will not record any episodes from then on.

A worry here would be this is probably a process or training error that may have occurred in any number of season passes.

steve

[cwaring]

You sure? My current SP has scheduled the episode on the 19th. No eps listed after that, so can't check them yet of course!

I have noticed that Tribune have started (since new year) putting the date in the episode "title" spot, though. Wonder why?

[kitschcamp]

Didn't even realise Neighbours was still around, still in the interests of science, tivoweb says there are two series called Neighbours, one with a series ID of 3191 and one 12356

3191 is, indeed, on BBC1x till 19th January.
12356 appears on UKGOLDx from 14th Jan, and BBC1x from 20th Jan.

Steve K is therefore correct that the Neighbours season pass will break in a week or so. I find in favour of Steve K ;)

[cwaring]

Never doubted him for a minute. :) I simply found it odd that, if it changes on the 19th, why is that episode scheduled to record. Maybe the change hasn't hit my Tivo yet. Or something.

Anyway, thanks for the warning. I'll keep an eye on it!

[kitschcamp]

19th is the *last* day on the old season pass. New episodes with new season pass are from the 20th. They are available now, otherwise I couldn't have confirmed it.

[cwaring]

Ahh. ISWYM. I need to "search for programmes to record" and set up a new SP :) <annoyed grunt>

[Steve_K]

yep I probably got the actual change date 19th/20th wrong but my real worry is this: why create a new series identity for an existing series? The only answer I can come up with is a procedural mistake and that could be happening to all sorts of series. Neighbours is less than vital but there are some series like Stargate that even a missed minute let alone an episode leads to all sorts of distress.

Bottom line is I'm hoping Tribune will investigate and fix the root cause.

[cwaring]

I presume it is because they want to align the BBC1 series with the UK Gold series; ie they're the same programme so they should have the same record number.

Seems like a fair enough kind of thing to do, but it would have been better had it been acheived transparently with no user intervention required.

Imagine all the phone calls to Tivo CS on the 20th when the current SP stops working :)

[LJ]

If you're running TiVoWeb, mrtickle's Guide Data Checker module (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97041) has an option that checks your season passes for multiple series with the same name.

[ericd121]

Originally posted by Toothy
Programme Name: The Premiership On Monday

Time/Date Of Airing: Mon 12/1 11:30 PM

Problem:

A SP for The Premiership broadcast on Saturdays, doesn`t pick up the Monday edition. Unless of course, I set up a wishlist, which defeats the whole object of SP`s. :p

Also the categories are wrong.......the Monday airing is listed as Chat Show, Sports, Non-Event....is should be Sports, Football, Non-Event.

The Saturday airing is different again.....it is listed as Football, Sports Talk, Chat Show...when again, it should probably be Sports, Football, Non-Event.

An 90min programme with probably only 12-17 minutes of `chat`, can hardly be described as a Chat/Talk Show.

Also using Search By Title, then Sports, Football, it lists the Saturday airing.....but NOT the Monday edition. :confused: :confused:

Hhmm...
These are two slightly differing programs.
The Premiership On Monday has at least 50% chat, and none of the game highlights last longer than 5 minutes.
Saturday's The Premiership usuallly has highlights of 3 matches lasting 15-20 minutes each.

I believe ITV has given the Monday prog a different title to emphasise it's different nature, which is to offer analysis and an overview of the weekend's events. Indeed, there are sometimes editions of The Premiership on Wednesdays, which have a similar format to the Saturday editions. It isn't called The Premiership on Wednesday because it's main aim is the same as the Saturday prog, to show longer highlights of a couple of games.

I thnk the catagory of The Premiership On Monday should be changed from Sports to Football, but otherwise, is spot-on.

[Furball]

BBC 1

16-01-04

8.30 pm

NTL digital cable

Portsmouth area

Prog details :- Victoria Woods Big Fat Documentary.

Problem :- No season pass option available, this is in its second week now, didnt have one for the first week either.


Mrs's nearly missed it :D

[bobnick]

Originally posted by cwaring
I presume it is because they want to align the BBC1 series with the UK Gold series; ie they're the same programme so they should have the same record number.

Seems like a fair enough kind of thing to do, but it would have been better had it been acheived transparently with no user intervention required.



As season passes only work on one channel, I wouldn't have thought that getting the show under 1 record number would be Tribune's top priority right now (especially considering the recent explosion of this thread!).
If they were doing it deliberately, then surely they would give the UK Gold series the code from BBC1, so fewer machines would be screwed up.

[Steve_K]

Originally posted by bobnick
As season passes only work on one channel,
Do they? I've found that Season Passes will pick up alternate showings on other Sky channles (eg Sky One/Sky Mix) but not moves between differnent terrestial channels. And the new series pass for Neighbours post 19th brings up both UK Gold and BBC showings (it's good though as it correctly identifies first runs)

My theory still is that a new employee has seen the UK Gold coverage and unthinkingly set up a new series ID to cover all showings. If unchecked this could happen to any series.

I still regularly check the To Do list, you can only rely on human driven computers so much.

[pahunt]

Originally posted by Steve_K
Do they? I've found that Season Passes will pick up alternate showings on other Sky channles (eg Sky One/Sky Mix) but not moves between differnent terrestial channels. And the new series pass for Neighbours post 19th brings up both UK Gold and BBC showings (it's good though as it correctly identifies first runs)

My theory still is that a new employee has seen the UK Gold coverage and unthinkingly set up a new series ID to cover all showings. If unchecked this could happen to any series.

I still regularly check the To Do list, you can only rely on human driven computers so much.

Nope, season passes will only record programs on the channel they were created for. If you view upcoming programs in a Season Pass it will show upcoming episodes on all channels though.

[Zaichik]

Originally posted by pahunt
Nope, season passes will only record programs on the channel they were created for. If you view upcoming programs in a Season Pass it will show upcoming episodes on all channels though.

But until now, Neighbours has always been an exception. View upcoming episodes would only show BBC1 episodes.

[pahunt]

Originally posted by Zaichik
But until now, Neighbours has always been an exception. View upcoming episodes would only show BBC1 episodes.

So it sounds like Tivo are trying to correct the fact that Neighbours on BBC was not the same as Neighbours on UK Gold.

[groovyclam]

Date: Sun 18th Jan 2004 onwards
Channel Name: BBC4
Platform: Sky Digital ( but probably all platforms )

The listings for BBC4 on Sunday 18th Jan and for the coming week do not agree with current paper listings guides or DigiGuide and also contain far too many "To Be Announced" slots.

[occitan]

Originally posted by occitan
Despite being posted here five days ago, the listings [for Alan Clark Diaries] have still not been corrected, and this program is still not configured as a series.

Furthermore, future episodes have now started to appear in the BBC4 listings, but they contain the identical description as the first program, including the the phrase "the first in a six part series".

Please correct this ASAP...

Error becomes incompetence. Thank you Tribune for fixing the original error and making the Alan Clark Diaries on BBC4 a series. We can now create a Season Pass for this series.
Unfortunately, none of the episodes have the isEpisode flag set, nor are the episode number.

Before the change the description said First in a Six part series. That has been replaced with a generic description which is identical for all showings (five in my current guide data), including different episodes( 2/5), so it is not even possible to work out which one is which from the text.

Getting it wrong first time is understandable, these things happen. Mucking up the correction is appalling.

Here are the real details and times for this series.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/cinema/alanclarkdiaries/episodes.shtml

[bobnick]

House Doctor on Five is still screwed up.

I have a FR SP, but it's catching all showings, even though they have correct OADs - should be easy to fix, surely?

[mrtickle]

The only First Run marked for that series currently is the episode on Five on Mon 26th Jan (which of course is wrong).
What concerns me more is the lack of any episode details for the hundreds of UK Style and UK Style+1 showings - this has definitely been on UK Style before, with good episode data so it'll already be in the Tribune database.

Unfortunately if (as I suspect) UK Style haven't given Tribune any episode details for all of these, Tribune has no choice but to set them as generic (ie not Episodes). In so doing, a FRO season pass for UK Style or +1 will get every single damn broadcast, because FRO only filters out proper Episodes which aren't First Runs.

[bobnick]

Sure, but my point is that a FRO season pass picks up all showings on Five, even though they have old OADs.

Listings are also wrong for children's ITV1 in the afternoons - a season pass for "Thomas the Tank Engine" in 5 minutes out, which as it's only 10 minutes in length is a bit of a problem! Needless to say, Digiguide has the correct data.

[sanderton]

Channel: Discovery
Program: Castle

From Jan 21st, this seems to change title in the EPG to "Castles", which is, I think, a different show?.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by bobnick
As season passes only work on one channel, I wouldn't have thought that getting the show under 1 record number would be Tribune's top priority right now (especially considering the recent explosion of this thread!).
If they were doing it deliberately, then surely they would give the UK Gold series the code from BBC1, so fewer machines would be screwed up.

Well I don't know what they're doing, but they're doing it wrong :mad:

My original SP (the one that does not show UKG eps) lists the folllowing as 'upcoming eps': 19th and 26th-30th. All other eps (ie 21st to 25th) are, luckily, being caught by the other newly-set-up SP which does include the UKG eps.

What anyone who doesn't frequent these forums is going to think, I don't want to guess:)

[mesaka]

BBC3
17/1
Eastenders special "Xmas"edition

Was listed just as Eastenders and I missed Dlaziel and Pascoe because of a season pass clash. 'er indoors was not best pleased especuially as the eastenders was a 15 minute "best of" (i.e. a repeat...)! Its too late now but could similar specials be marked as such in the future?

[tim123]

I have a season pass for First Run Only of Smallville on E4. Last Monday (12/1/2004) it correctly recorded 'Pheonix' on its first UK showing.

Last night and again this morning it re-recorded the same episode off the same channel. So now I have 2 copies of the episode I watched and deleted a few days ago, and since it's set for 2 at most it wouldn't have recorded tonight's new episode :(

- RH12
- Sky Digital
- E4
- 205
- Smallville - Superman the early years
- 9pm Mpndays (first showing) repeated Sunday pm/Monday am

Tim

[mccg]

-PO16
-ntl cable
-ITV1 Meridian
-3
-23.01.2004 Friday
-00:35 - 01:00
-World Rally Championship Preview

This is on Digiguide, but not on TiVo.

I guess it's a late change to the schedule, since ITV only recently won the rights to the WRC.

itv.com and radiotimes.beeb.com don't mention it either, so I can't confirm that it is actually going to be on.
Digiguide is usually OK, but it's the only place I could find reference to this.

Cheers,
Mike

(Edit: Date corrected to 23rd! - Thanks ozsat)

[ozsat]

Originally posted by mccg
-PO16
-ntl cable
-ITV1 Meridian
-3
-24.01.2004 Friday
-00:35 - 01:00
-World Rally Championship Preview

This is on Digiguide, but not on TiVo.

I guess it's a late change to the schedule, since ITV only recently won the rights to the WRC.

itv.com and radiotimes.beeb.com don't mention it either, so I can't confirm that it is actually going to be on.
Digiguide is usually OK, but it's the only place I could find reference to this.

Cheers,
Mike You mean Friday 23rd Jan!

It is listed in the latest schedules I have - so should be on!

[cwaring]

Originally posted by tim123
I have a season pass for First Run Only of Smallville on E4. Last Monday (12/1/2004) it correctly recorded 'Pheonix' on its first UK showing.

Last night and again this morning it re-recorded the same episode off the same channel.

Same here. I realise that is was due to the showings you mention haveing only a 'generic' programme description.

[bobnick]

The state of UK listings is really getting on my nerves now. It's getting beyond a joke.

BBC1 London News and BBC 6 o'clock News - This SP should pick up the regional news at 1:30pm for 10 minutes, at 6.30pm for 30 minutes and at 10.30pm (weeknights) for 5 minutes.

Previous screw-ups by Tribune means that I have a 'Regional News and Weather' season pass as well as a 'BBC London News; Weather' SP (they flit between the two titles as they see fit), but neither SP picks up local BBC1 news at the minute. I don't want to set 3 different SPs to pick up one showing!

I'm getting nothing recorded at 1.30 and 10.30, and Tivo is recording BBC1 from 6 to 6.30, not 6.30 to 7.


Also, it'd be nice if Tribune could get accurate listings for BBC1 weekday mornings from 9 - 10, like Digiguide have.

[cwaring]

Originally posted by bobnick
Also, it'd be nice if Tribune could get accurate listings for BBC1 weekday mornings from 9 - 10, like Digiguide have.

Of course, that sentence should read

"Also, it'd be nice if the BBC supplied Tribune with accurate listings for BBC1 weekday mornings from 9 - 10, like they do with Digiguide."

Okay, it's possible that they have and Tribune just hasn't implemented them, but I can't say for certain. Can you? :)

[bobnick]

Are you telling me that if Mr Tibune rang up the BBC and said "Hello, please can you tell me what is on at 9.30 am this week" that they're not going to get an answer?

It's quite possible, as you suggest, that the BBC have supplied Digiguide, The Radio Times, The Sun, The Times, The Mirror, The Independent, The Guardian, The Star, The Express, Metro, The Evening Standard et al, but have "forgotten" or "refused" to send their data to Tribune. If this is the case, then quite frankly I expect some action on Tribune's part - we are giving Tivo 18 dollars a month.
Let's be honest, the BBC aren't the problem here.

[LJ]

Originally posted by bobnick
BBC1 London News and BBC 6 o'clock News - This SP should pick up the regional news at 1:30pm for 10 minutes, at 6.30pm for 30 minutes and at 10.30pm (weeknights) for 5 minutes.

Previous screw-ups by Tribune means that I have a 'Regional News and Weather' season pass as well as a 'BBC London News; Weather' SP

Surely each timeslot should have its own SP, otherwise you'd never be able to record say just the 1:30pm news every day without also getting all the other Regional Newses throughout the day.

Reminds me... the SP for the BBC 1 o'clock news is still picking up the 15:20 News too as I reported recently. It never used to! Please can the 1 o'clock News go back to the way it used to be and pick up only the 1 o'clock news. Thanks.

[bobnick]

My errors have been reported to CS - they guy suggested that I try to force a daily call (even though my daily call log was shown on his screen (even though I use Airnet??)) and I wasn't too patient with him after that!

After hearing about your error reporting LJ, how much hope should I hold out for Tribune to fix the guide data by Friday? The data is correct next week, but Tivo thinks local news is on in London at 6pm on BBC1 this week.

[Adder]

Originally posted by bobnick
After hearing about your error reporting LJ, how much hope should I hold out for Tribune to fix the guide data by Friday? The data is correct next week, but Tivo thinks local news is on in London at 6pm on BBC1 this week.

It does indeed doesn't it, just on BBC1 London though, I never realised that all the other regions have their correct titles rather than a generic title like we get on BBC1LDN of "Regional News; Weather".

Lets report this one properly then:

Platform: BSkyB UK
Callsign: 101 BBC1LDN

Times 6pm - 6.30pm Monday to Friday should be listed as "BBC News" NOT "BBC London News; Weather"

6.30pm - 7pm Monday - Friday SHOULD be listed as "BBC London News; Weather".

[cwaring]

There is a show on E4 this week (Thurs, 9pm @ 11:30pm) which is wrongly named in the Tivo EPG.

Tivo EPG Title: "Before They Were Famous"*
Actual Title: "The One Before They Were Friends"

(*Not to be confused with the BBC show of the same name)

[pgogborn]

Dear Mr Tribune,

Currently a UK government regulator is conducting a consultation on the regulation of Electronic Programme Guides. The deadline for comments is 25 March 2004.

It is possible that Tribune have interests to defend and may wish to make a submission.

For example, in the future Sky could use their own-brand EPGs to start and stop recordings on their own brand DVRs with a high degree of accuracy. This would put Tribune at a competitive disadvantage if it had to rely on 'to the nearest five minutes' schedules currently supplied >
http://www.radioauthority.org.uk/consultations/current/epg/

[bobnick]

Originally posted by Adder

Lets report this one properly then:

Platform: BSkyB UK
Callsign: 101 BBC1LDN

Times 6pm - 6.30pm Monday to Friday should be listed as "BBC News" NOT "BBC London News; Weather"

6.30pm - 7pm Monday - Friday SHOULD be listed as "BBC London News; Weather".

I don't think Tribune bother to monitor this thread anymore - I've reported the error above to Tivo and they'll escalate it to Tribune direct. But to be complete, the error above also affects showings at 1.30pm and 10.30pm.

[Steve_K]

Originally posted by bobnick
I don't think Tribune bother to monitor this thread anymore

Dunno, they have (sort of) fixed the Neighbours series definition fault I reported here last week and they did it before the first recording erros would have been reported by phone.

steve

[cwaring]

Originally posted by Steve_K
Dunno, they have (sort of) fixed the Neighbours series definition fault I reported here last week and they did it before the first recording erros would have been reported by phone.

As I reported here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=1665092#post1665092), it's still broken. Episodes on the 26th to 30th inclusive will not be picked up by the new SP so I hope you haven't deleted the old one yet :(

Addendum: Oh, was this what you meant by "sort of" :)

[Crispin]

The lineup for BBC 1 tomorrow evening has been changed, the following program replaces quite a few others:

Channel: BBC1
Program: Panoroma - a Fight to the Death
Time: Wed 21st Jan, 20:30 -> 21:55

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3413361.stm

This is a special edition of Panorama, looking at the Hutton enquiry.

[Steve_K]

Originally posted by cwaring
Oh, was this what you meant by "sort of"
yep, not my most precise communication though

I'm being optimistic and assuming Tribune read this thread, realised they'd made a mistake and then (a) decided that reassigning episodes back to the correct series might cause problems and (b) have suitably retrained their operative so that really important series (Stargate etc) never get so damaged

yeah I know: pigs fly

steve

[pgogborn]

Originally posted by bobnick
I don't think Tribune bother to monitor this thread anymore - I've reported the error above to Tivo and they'll escalate it to Tribune direct. But to be complete, the error above also affects showings at 1.30pm and 10.30pm.
How long have you been noticing the problem?

Is it possible that Tribune rely on being subscribed to this thread to know about new postings and some error detached them last time it was archived (20th December 3003)

[bobnick]

The problem with the regional news started on Monday.

As for the e-mail notifications, do you really think there's a bank of people at Tribune twiddling their thumbs who think the data is 100% correct as they haven't had an e-mail :) :) :)
It's more likely that their inbox collapsed under the weight of all the postings!

As for the Neighbours 'fix' - it means that there's more trouble next week as all Neighbours watchers no doubt missed Monday's episode, then thought their machine was broken so deleted the old SP and set a new one - which will then miss the episode on the 26th :(