So I've started Supernatural (possible spoilers)

[photoshopgrl]

It's so cute watching you jump to conclusions.

The ones you get right, the ones you get wrong...

:D

Yeah well.... I like to think I'm smart so hopefully even when I'm wrong it's not because the theory is stupid. :D

[photoshopgrl]

And I'm not reading comments on this review but I had to see what others thought and I'm very satisfied that my feelings are accurate.
From Tim at TV.com on the Season 6 premier
The episode had all the familiar faces, yet it was totally unrecognizable. There was no humor, no snappy dialogue, no everything else that made Supernatural such an incredible show. This reunion between Sam and Dean totally destroyed everything the show had built up for five seasons; it was cold, nonchalant, and just another ordinary day (to them) when it clearly was not.
Entire review:
http://www.tv.com/news/supernatural-is-it-already-time-to-worry-24070/

[photoshopgrl]

And a quote from Episode 2 that took the words right out of my mouth!
We've dealt with Sam and Dean keeping secrets from one another (Dean remembering his time in Hell) and not trusting one another (after Sam buddied up with Ruby) in past seasons, but this season's tension between the brothers just doesn't work yet. And with the Campbells in the picture, we have our first glimpse that Sam doesn't need Dean like he did in the past. Under creator Eric Kripke, the idea that the two brothers were meant to be together and HAD to be together propelled the story. That feeling just isn't yet here in Season 6.
Full review here:
http://www.tv.com/news/supernaturals-two-winchesters-and-a-baby%0D-24152/

[Rob Helmerichs]

And again, all I'll say is they know what they're doing; they just didn't have the chance to spend years setting it up.

[photoshopgrl]

And again, all I'll say is they know what they're doing; they just didn't have the chance to spend years setting it up.
I gotcha! I'm watching Episode 4 now. :)

[photoshopgrl]

Okay so that was different. But at least this was in a good way. I didn't get much of Dean and Sam so didn't have much to analyze on their behavior. Wow, Bobby really does EVERYTHING, doesn't he? At first I was annoyed that he was putting Dean on hold but then when he started ranting, I actually thought about it and was like "wow, yeah he's right!". I also liked he was smart enough to make sure Crowley didn't take his legs back in the deal!

So Crowley is the king of Hell. Interesting. I guess there really is a story to be told after the whole Apocalypse thing. But him impersonating Bobby was hilarious. "Idjit" and then Bobby and his "balls!" every 5 seconds had me smiling a lot.

[Rob Helmerichs]

Yeah, my old .sig was Crowley as Lord of Hell. Something like "This is Hell, not Wall Street...we have this little thing called integrity!"

[photoshopgrl]

Yeah, my old .sig was Crowley as Lord of Hell. Something like "This is Hell, not Wall Street...we have this little thing called integrity!"
Is that an actual quote? I'd be sad if I missed that.

[crowfan]

It is, but you haven't watched that ep yet. You didn't miss it. :)

[photoshopgrl]

It is, but you haven't watched that ep yet. You didn't miss it. :)
Gotcha. Debating on attempting another episode. It's Monday, everyone is in meetings. I got caught up on my stuff last week so I could have the holiday week easy so I have time to do what I want.

[photoshopgrl]

Hahaha! I'm cracking up at them totally poking at Twilight!

[photoshopgrl]

Okay what the FFFFFFFFFFF. Sam just stood there and allowed that vamp to feed Dean his blood?!?! Did he half smile?!?! Oh yeah, he definitely has no soul. This is about to piss me off!!!

[photoshopgrl]

So Dean actually saw Sam stand there and smirk? This is not Sam. Yeah this needs sorted out now. I'm already over this. My stomach is in knots watching and not in the good way of previous seasons. Ugh.

[photoshopgrl]

Okay I'm going to just keep on talking. :D

The more I think about this, after this last episode. That wasn't just souless Sam. That was evil. I think having Lucifer inside him left part of that when he was brought back. That smirk was pure nasty. It reminded me of how Jared played Lucifer. That can't be a coincidence.

So there's my new theory. Now to figure out what would have made Bobby go along with not telling Dean. And figure out WTF is up with the rest of the hunters with Skinner. They are all way too suspect.

[photoshopgrl]

Oh and for the first time since starting this series, I heard that Kansas song on my way home. Someone please tell me why I'm singing along with it and suddenly felt my throat tighten up. I mean, really Cristina?? Ugh. http://seekup.org/smileys/uploaded/youcrazy.gif

[Rob Helmerichs]

Ah, the possibilities. So many possibilities!

(I suspect the reason that nobody wants to talk to you now is that nobody wants to inadvertently spoil anything.)

[robojerk]

And figure out WTF is up with the rest of the hunters with Skinner. They are all way too suspect.

I wouldn't wast much time with that. Some would call it a
(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)
dead end.
Yeaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

ps. that is a guy putting sunglasses on...

[robojerk]

Oh and for the first time since starting this series, I heard that Kansas song on my way home.I love that Kansas song now thanks to Supernatural.

[photoshopgrl]

I wouldn't wast much time with that. Some would call it a
(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)
dead end.
Yeaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

ps. that is a guy putting sunglasses on...

Ha! Trust me, that is far behind figuring out Sam and Bobby. Was it a trick of light or my viewing on the iPad or did they actually show something when Crowley gave Bobby back is soul? I don't recall that happening before. Almost like a breeze of sorts. I can't explain it. Does that mean Bobby was actually without his soul for a year? What does that mean exactly as we know the same deals have been made before and people [Dean] didn't act that OOC during that year. Maybe I'm reading too much into the Bobby thing. Maybe Sam convinced him it was better for Dean. I can't imagine it. The entire universe knows what Sam means to Dean and how hard he had to be taking his brother being gone that entire time. I just cannot imagine anyone for any reason agreeing to that. :(

[photoshopgrl]

I love that Kansas song now thanks to Supernatural.
I've always liked it but never a favorite. And never had any meaning for me before. Now it will forever exemplify Supernatural.

[photoshopgrl]

Ah, the possibilities. So many possibilities!
But then why did someone here specifically say something was missing? That's why I jumped on his soul being gone.
Okay must stop before I start tailspinning again. :p

[Rob Helmerichs]

But then why did someone here specifically say something was missing? That's why I jumped on his soul being gone.
Okay must stop before I start tailspinning again. :p
Do you remember the many conversations we've had concerning thinking you know something but knowing something doesn't mean you know what you think you know?

We're kinda in one of THOSE zones.

:D

[photoshopgrl]

Do you remember the many conversations we've had concerning thinking you know something but knowing something doesn't mean you know what you think you know?

We're kinda in one of THOSE zones.

:D
Ah rats. I wish I could just stop analyzing every detail but my OCD will not allow it.

[photoshopgrl]

Okay well I may find out sooner rather than later. I'm about to watch the next and the synopsis looks good!
I really need this resolved so this train can get back on the correct track before I freak.

[danterner]

Okay well I may find out sooner rather than later. I'm about to watch the next and the synopsis looks good!
I really need this resolved so this train can get back on the correct track before I freak.

I've lost track - which episode are you on now?

[photoshopgrl]

I've lost track - which episode are you on now?
Just finished 06x06 where Dean thinks he's going to get the truth out of Sam because of the curse of Veritas. Now I'm even more confused than ever. Sam was able to lie? HOW? And I assume Dean at the end started wailing on him because of what Bobby said that maybe this was just Sam and he stopped caring. Either Jared is too good of an actor or Sam is telling the truth because I believed it when he said he didn't understand what was going on. Maybe whatever it is has affected his memory too. They wiped his brain of [for a lack of better term and not trying to sound like TVD] humanity. Maybe that's why he's such a good hunter now. He isn't scared and he doesn't care. Or maybe that describes a lack of soul now that I'm typing it out.

Okay I'm just going to weeble on this fence between the two things. He's either souless Sam or part of Lucifer is still in him. Either way, this is not good. FIX HIM CAS!

[JYoung]

You have to admit, it's a shocker when Dean starts pummeling Sam.

[Vendikarr]

Ha! Trust me, that is far behind figuring out Sam and Bobby. Was it a trick of light or my viewing on the iPad or did they actually show something when Crowley gave Bobby back is soul? I don't recall that happening before. Almost like a breeze of sorts. I can't explain it. Does that mean Bobby was actually without his soul for a year? What does that mean exactly as we know the same deals have been made before and people [Dean] didn't act that OOC during that year. Maybe I'm reading too much into the Bobby thing. Maybe Sam convinced him it was better for Dean. I can't imagine it. The entire universe knows what Sam means to Dean and how hard he had to be taking his brother being gone that entire time. I just cannot imagine anyone for any reason agreeing to that. :(

This is Weekend at Bobby's? My favorite quote in this episode was:

Bobby Singer: [On the phone with a hunter] Doesn't sound like our kind of thing. Better drop a dime to the FBI.
[Hangs up. His "FBI" phone rings. Bobby answers]
Bobby Singer: Willis, FBI.
[pause]
Bobby Singer: No, Garth, not me the FBI, the *real* FBI! How are you still alive?

Dean gets to meet Garth later... It's a fun time.

[photoshopgrl]

You have to admit, it's a shocker when Dean starts pummeling Sam.
Honestly, the look on his face gave no indication that was about to happen. It just totally came out of left field. I almost thought he was going to just sigh and say something like "well then we'll figure it out" and then BAM. So yeah, that gave me a start, I think I even said "what the hell!"

[photoshopgrl]

This is Weekend at Bobby's? My favorite quote in this episode was:

Bobby Singer: [On the phone with a hunter] Doesn't sound like our kind of thing. Better drop a dime to the FBI.
[Hangs up. His "FBI" phone rings. Bobby answers]
Bobby Singer: Willis, FBI.
[pause]
Bobby Singer: No, Garth, not me the FBI, the *real* FBI! How are you still alive?

Dean gets to meet Garth later... It's a fun time.

Ha! Yes, that was quite funny! I also liked when he was yelling at the boys something like "I know you two have issue. God knows, I know!"

[photoshopgrl]

Okay so 7 episodes in. This synopsis better not by toying with me. I'm ready to be done with this nonsense!
Castiel confirms what has happened to Sam, and the brothers go to Samuel for answers. He's busy leading a hunt against the Alpha Vampire, and the Winchesters insist on going. However, the hunt goes horribly awry, and Dean and Sam learn what Samuel is up to.

[photoshopgrl]

Well they wasted no time! Soulless Sam it is!

[photoshopgrl]

Well that episode was all kinds of informative. Finally. So my first theory was pretty darn close. I don't know if that makes me happy or not. Are we really going to spend the season with "RoboSam" searching for a way to get his soul from Crowley? So basically the boys are back but they aren't really back and might not be for some time. Ugh. I miss puppy eye Sammy.

[danterner]

Well that episode was all kinds of informative. Finally. So my first theory was pretty darn close. I don't know if that makes me happy or not. Are we really going to spend the season with "RoboSam" searching for a way to get his soul from Crowley? So basically the boys are back but they aren't really back and might not be for some time. Ugh. I miss puppy eye Sammy.

I didn't think the scene with his puppy eye collection was until much later in the season?

[photoshopgrl]

I didn't think the scene with his puppy eye collection was until much later in the season?
I don't understand this post. There was no scene with puppy eyes. That's my point! I miss Sam with feelings! RoboSam is accurate. Or actually maybe it should be StepfordSam instead.

[Rob Helmerichs]

Well that episode was all kinds of informative. Finally. So my first theory was pretty darn close. I don't know if that makes me happy or not. Are we really going to spend the season with "RoboSam" searching for a way to get his soul from Crowley? So basically the boys are back but they aren't really back and might not be for some time. Ugh. I miss puppy eye Sammy.
Do not forsake the possibility that there is more going on here than you think...or that what is going on is not exactly what you think.

Of course, that should be a generic warning when dealing with this show!

[photoshopgrl]

Do not forsake the possibility that there is more going on here than you think...or that what is going on is not exactly what you think.

Of course, that should be a generic warning when dealing with this show!

You do realize you are the king of tailspin enabling here right? :)

[Rob Helmerichs]

You do realize you are the king of tailspin enabling here right? :)
Hey, Mark Pellegrino can't have ALL the fun...

:D

[photoshopgrl]

Hey, Mark Pellegrino can't have ALL the fun...
:D
Ha!

Just finished 06x08. I am 100% over this crap now. That conversation at the end was just ugly. UGLY. I do not enjoy that kind of emotional trampoline fun time. That just made me sick for Dean. The look on his face when Sam said "I don't even really care about you.... except that I need your help". I'm just over. it. This is taking far too gd long to play out. We get it, he's a heartless prick because he has no soul. Can we go ahead and fix that now and give them something new to tackle. I'm seriously seriously losing patience. I WANT MY BROTHERS BACK!

Remember when I said I hated Mystery Spot because it was so damn good even though I hated every second of it? Well this I just am hating. :down:

[JYoung]

I'm sorry, but did you expect me just to give Sam back his soul?
I'm a businessman and I have expenses, quotas, and profits to worry about.

I'M NOT RUNNING A BLOODY CHARITY WARD HERE!



Of course, the fact that this upsets you so much means the writers are enjoying torturing you.

[photoshopgrl]

I'm sorry, but did you expect me just to give Sam back his soul?
I'm a businessman and I have expenses, quotas, and profits to worry about.

I'M NOT RUNNING A BLOODY CHARITY WARD HERE!



Of course, the fact that this upsets you so much means the writers are enjoying torturing you.

I get it. I do. But I think they are playing with fire. If I wasn't sure this ended soon I would bail. I would not go 22 episodes waiting. An entire season of this Sam with zero bonding moments with Dean? No pass. Others might not have even had my patience or the luxury of watching like I am with other people assuring them it ends soon.
I just think it was a mistake to do this from the season opener after that finale and then drag it out like this. That's all.

I'm telling you right now they better give me the BEST brother moment of the series when this comes to a head. They better make the payoff worth this.

[danterner]

Ha!

Just finished 06x08. I am 100% over this crap now. That conversation at the end was just ugly. UGLY. I do not enjoy that kind of emotional trampoline fun time. That just made me sick for Dean. The look on his face when Sam said "I don't even really care about you.... except that I need your help". I'm just over. it. This is taking far too gd long to play out. We get it, he's a heartless prick because he has no soul. Can we go ahead and fix that now and give them something new to tackle. I'm seriously seriously losing patience. I WANT MY BROTHERS BACK!

Remember when I said I hated Mystery Spot because it was so damn good even though I hated every second of it? Well this I just am hating. :down:

So, the spoiler below hides an image from a few episodes away from where you are. The image is a plot spoiler, but I think you may need it if you are feeling this frustrated:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i57/danterner/05c1d742.jpg

[photoshopgrl]

So, the spoiler below hides an image. The image is a plot spoiler for an upcoming episode, but I think you may need it, if you are feeling this frustrated:

* SPOILER *

Yes I did need that. Thank you!!!

[Lillian Nyx]

Yes I did need that. Thank you!!!

Christina wasn't the only one that needed that! ;)

[photoshopgrl]

Well I just finished 06x12. I had to get to it. I just trudged through all the ones before 11. It was a chore, I'm not going to lie. I'm not sure the payoff was worth it but it was really nice to see Sam again. And the hug was great! And Cas is so naive for being an angel. So thank GOD my show is back. It only took half the season! I'll post more tomorrow. I'm dead.

[photoshopgrl]

There's my Sam. :)

http://i49.tinypic.com/2ug0010.jpg

[steve614]

If I wasn't sure this ended soon I would bail.
I don't believe you.
How many 'addicts' have you heard of that have the same sentiments, but fail to follow through? :D;)

[Rob Helmerichs]

"I can quit Supernatural any time I want."—Cristina

[photoshopgrl]

Hush it you two! Clearly we know I'm full of it. I am, after all, Supernatural's bitch. ;)

I still hated 80% of the fist half of the season but I'm past it and things seem to be getting back on track. Just finished 06x13. Working from home today so about to watch one or two more before a conference call at 8am.

I can already see that Sam is going to end up scratching that wall too much. I just hope when it comes down he's able to deal with it. This is going to be so much worse than Dean's ride in Hell. Wow. Would not have thought that possible. Yikes!

And soulless Sam was pretty evil. Yikes again.

[photoshopgrl]

Okay watched 06x15 The French Mistake. Wow, talk about your meta! So much funny I don't even know where to start! This episode was just what this season needed!! No wonder it's a favorite.

So many quotes!!!

Sam: For whatever reason, our life is a TV show.
Dean: Why?
Sam: I don't know.
Dean: No, seriously, why? Why would anybody want to watch our lives?
Sam: Well, I mean, according to the interview, not very many people do. Look, I'm not saying it makes sense. I'm just saying we.. we've landed in some dimension where you're Jensen Ackles, and I'm something called a "Jared Padalecki."
Dean: So what, now you're Polish?

Misha: You guys! You really punked me! I'm totally going to tweet this one. "Hola, Mishamigos. J-Squared got me good. Really starting to feel like one of the guys."

Dean: I want to go home. I feel like this whole place is bad touching me.

Dean: Oh, come one. Look at these male modeling sons of bitches. Nice blue steel, Sam.

Sam: So the character in the show, Bobby Singer...
Dean: What kind of a dbag names a character after himself?
Sam: Oh, that's not right.

Dean: Nice modest digs, Jay-Z.
Sam: Wow, I must be the star of this thing.

Kevin Parks: We’d have to blow off the scene where they sit on the Impala and talk about their feelings.
Bobby Singer: Ha, right. You answer the hate mail.

And their attempt at acting the scene was GOLD! They are fantastic at acting badly!
Sam: If there’s a key, then there has to be a lock. And when we find the lock we can get the weapons and then we can have the weapons. And the lock, also, we’ll have the lock I imagine because we opened it and of course the initial key.
Dean: We need to get all three of that crap.

[billypritchard]

We finally started watching again! Of course, you'll be past me in like two days, but still. Just finished 6-17 and 6-18. I can say that those two feel very old school Supernatural, but I agree with you that the beginning of Six is rough.

Man, I'm good. You're very much going to pass me today!

[photoshopgrl]

Man, I'm good. You're very much going to pass me today!
I can't help it. I kept saying just get through Season 5 arc! Then it was just getting to the old Sam! Now I'm so close that I might as well just finish it while I can. Then I can sit around being mad that I have months in between finishing and the new season. :D

[Rob Helmerichs]

Well, there's still Season 7...

[danterner]

Okay watched 06x15 The French Mistake. Wow, talk about your meta! So much funny I don't even know where to start! This episode was just what this season needed!! No wonder it's a favorite.


I found this page (http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=6.15_The_French_Mistake) to have the most complete run-down of all the meta stuff and in-jokes that happened during the episode. I thought I caught much of it while watching the episode, but there's actually so much more.

As I mentioned upthread (but in a spoiler so you probably didn't read it), when Misha (playing Misha) tweeted during the episode, Misha (the real actor) actually tweeted those same tweets simultaneously to twitter, during the airing of the episode. So if you happened to be on twitter while watching the episode as it aired, and you were following Misha Collins, when Misha tweeted on screen the tweets actually showed up in your stream. Happened to me, and it made the episode for me.

[photoshopgrl]

I found this page (http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=6.15_The_French_Mistake) to have the most complete run-down of all the meta stuff and in-jokes that happened during the episode. I thought I caught much of it while watching the episode, but there's actually so much more.

As I mentioned upthread (but in a spoiler so you probably didn't read it), when Misha (playing Misha) tweeted during the episode, Misha (the real actor) actually tweeted those same tweets simultaneously to twitter, during the airing of the episode. So if you happened to be on twitter while watching the episode as it aired, and you were following Misha Collins, when Misha tweeted on screen the tweets actually showed up in your stream. Happened to me, and it made the episode for me.
That would have been awesome! Obviously I wasn't watching so I wasn't following him but I am now. I guess Jared is on Twitter too but not Jensen.

[photoshopgrl]

I found this page (http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=6.15_The_French_Mistake) to have the most complete run-down of all the meta stuff and in-jokes that happened during the episode. I thought I caught much of it while watching the episode, but there's actually so much more.
That page has a few more quotes I didn't add that I loved!

Dean: I said hey.
Balthazar: You did, twice. Good for you.

Dean: Oh, crap. I'm a painted whore.
and
Dean: They put makeup on us. Those bastards!

Dean: Misha? Jensen? What's up with the names around here?

[photoshopgrl]

Well, there's still Season 7...
I meant finished through Season 7. I'll be done long before October even if I watch 1 a day and we all know that's not happening. :)

[Rob Helmerichs]

I found this page (http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=6.15_The_French_Mistake) to have the most complete run-down of all the meta stuff and in-jokes that happened during the episode. I thought I caught much of it while watching the episode, but there's actually so much more.
Interesting stuff.

I was amused that not only did they botch the meaning of "hanging a lampshade," but they accidentally posted it twice. :D

[photoshopgrl]

I'm also curious. Did the fans not like Lisa either? I know it got away from Dean hitting on women everywhere but I liked them. I didn't want him with her full time, obviously but when she said "Let's break the rules" and for him to come and call when he could, I thought that was awesome. I know Dean doesn't have the life that could ever make that work but I feel like we didn't even get any time for them to try. It could have been a cute role reversal if he had tried to make that work more and Sam maybe strayed a bit out of his norm and hit on women for a change (unlike Souless Sam though).... Maybe it's just me.

Also I hated that they had him go there when he was vamping out and shove Ben and I thought it was really sad that Ben told him "You say family's so important, but what do you call people who care for you? Who love you even when you're a dick? You know you're walking out on your family, right?" That had to really hit home. It's not family that means everything to Dean, it's just Sam. Plain and simple. These two brothers cannot be without each other. And I'm fine with that, it's how things should be (on this show anyhow).

[DreadPirateRob]

"The French Mistake" is such a classic episode. To me it completely made up for the first half of S6 (which I disliked as much as Cristina at the time).

[Rob Helmerichs]

"The French Mistake" is such a classic episode. To me it completely made up for the first half of S6 (which I disliked as much as Cristina at the time).
She's lucky, though...she didn't have to wait months to see it all, without having us to reassure her that it gets its footing back.

Those were pretty grim days for Supernatural freaks!

[DreadPirateRob]

Yeah, watching shows on a compressed schedule really smooths out some of the rough spots. The first time I rewatched Buffy I was surprised at how relatively short some of the (very few) tedious plot lines really were, compared to when I first watched them. But when you watch it in real time on a normal broadcast network schedule with various repeats mixed in with new eps, 2-3 eps can take 6 weeks to air.

[Rob Helmerichs]

The first time I rewatched Buffy I was surprised at how relatively short some of the (very few) tedious plot lines really were, compared to when I first watched them.
Another problem with Buffy, I think, is that Whedon was too smart for his own good. I remember re-watching the Initiative season, and being surprised at how good it was knowing what was going on. Sometimes, he had a habit of burying the main story for the season until halfway through, and I think that made it look a lot more aimless the first time through than perhaps he intended. But when you see (and recognize) the seeds of what's coming, it's a lot more enjoyable.

Here, of course, there's the opposite problem...no seeds at all, since the earlier material was intended to be the LAST material. Shows that come back from their series finalés always have that problem, and rarely survive it (Miami Vice and Magnum PI were two classic examples). Supernatural, at least, DID survive, and even eventually thrived.

[JYoung]

That page has a few more quotes I didn't add that I loved!

Dean: I said hey.
Balthazar: You did, twice. Good for you.

Dean: Oh, crap. I'm a painted whore.
and
Dean: They put makeup on us. Those bastards!

Dean: Misha? Jensen? What's up with the names around here?

Dean: Dude, we're not even in America!

[photoshopgrl]

Ugh Buffy talk in my thread again. :cool:

"The French Mistake" is such a classic episode. To me it completely made up for the first half of S6 (which I disliked as much as Cristina at the time).
It certainly did help. The show was already on its way back to what I felt was so great and this was like a cherry on top for me. I'm happy again. I'm sure that'll change because they obviously like to put their fans through the emotional ringer on full cycle spin.. but for now, I'm good.

She's lucky, though...she didn't have to wait months to see it all, without having us to reassure her that it gets its footing back.
Those were pretty grim days for Supernatural freaks!
That's why I said if it had been a full season, even watching compressed I would have seriously been considering not watching. When I say I forced myself through those last couple of episodes, I mean it was a friggin chore to get through. Not knowing that about episode 11 was where it turned around... I just don't know. Then I look at the original air dates and realize that after I was seriously unhappy at the end of the first episode it was literally 11 weeks until episode 11 aired. HOLY CRAPOLA. Can you even imagine having to listen to me during that entire time if I was freaking for just a few days now?? Trust me, you can't.

[photoshopgrl]

Oh and nobody answered my post about Lisa.

[Rob Helmerichs]

Oh and nobody answered my post about Lisa.
I don't think it's that people didn't like her per se, just that she didn't fit in the dynamic of the show. It was way too obvious that she and Dean couldn't last (although I'm not convinced the writers realized that at first, at least consciously). Once Sam & Dean were Sam & Dean again, there'd be no room for her.

[DreadPirateRob]

Ugh Buffy talk in my thread again. :cool:

We all know it's the next show that you are watching after you finish this one. ;)

[photoshopgrl]

I don't think it's that people didn't like her per se, just that she didn't fit in the dynamic of the show. It was way too obvious that she and Dean couldn't last (although I'm not convinced the writers realized that at first, at least consciously). Once Sam & Dean were Sam & Dean again, there'd be no room for her.
I know it would never work but I just didn't like how it was written. I thought it could have been better and instead of so many episodes of souless Sam, I'd have taken them at least attempting to give her and Dean a shot. I guess I'd have just taken ANY storyline over souless Sam.

We all know it's the next show that you are watching after you finish this one. ;)
That will never happen.

[photoshopgrl]

I don't know why this made me laugh as hard as it did.

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[Enrique]

I know it would never work but I just didn't like how it was written. I thought it could have been better and instead of so many episodes of souless Sam, I'd have taken them at least attempting to give her and Dean a shot. I guess I'd have just taken ANY storyline over souless Sam. I don't get the hate over soulless Sam. I think it would have been utter BS to pull him out of Hell all happy go lucky. The way I thought of the story line is what happens when you pull something through a cheese grater, something is always left behind which in this case was sam's soul. I wasn't in love with the story line, but I think I would have stopped watching over it(Now if it was the main season plot).

[crowfan]

Man oh man. Just watched 7x10.

That will never happen.Remember when you thought Supernatural was just some cheesy WB show? :p

[DreadPirateRob]

That will never happen.

Honestly, if you love Supernatural, you will *love* Buffy. I have no doubt about that, after following your running commentary in this thread.

[zordude]

We all know it's the next show that you are watching after you finish this one. ;)

It better be f'ing deadwood that all there is to it.:mad:

[photoshopgrl]

Remember when you thought Supernatural was just some cheesy WB show? :p
Honestly, if you love Supernatural, you will *love* Buffy. I have no doubt about that, after following your running commentary in this thread.
No I won't. I could never get past two of the leads being people I dislike immensely.

[photoshopgrl]

It better be f'ing deadwood that all there is to it.:mad:
It is. I will have to take a break before starting it though. This series isn't going to leave the forefront of my brain easily.

[photoshopgrl]

So from what I see, it does seem that the fangirls love Sam more than Dean. Must be the puppy thing.

[billypritchard]

So from what I see, it does seem that the fangirls love Sam more than Dean. Must be the puppy thing.

My wife is definitely in the Dean camp.

[photoshopgrl]

My wife is definitely in the Dean camp.
I think character overall I'd have to say Dean just because he's someone that you would think they'd portray as an jackass yet he never is. Although I think each season I do go back and forth between who my favorite is.
As far as the actors go, on a superficial level, I get the appeal of Jared and in certain shots I think "damn!" but overall he doesn't really do it for me. Jensen ... always does.

[photoshopgrl]

Okay almost caught up with work stuff so in a bit going to watch 06x16. Is it just me or does this synopsis sound eerily similar to X-Files episode 'Ice'.
Eve, the Mother of All, unleashes a new monster upon the world: a black worm-slug that can enter the brain and force people to kill. Sam and Dean join forces with Bobby and Rufus and track it to a cannery, only to discover that Gwen and Samuel are also there looking for the monster... and none of them know who the monster is inside.

[Enrique]

Okay almost caught up with work stuff so in a bit going to watch 06x16. Is it just me or does this synopsis sound eerily similar to X-Files episode 'Ice'.:oOops.:o:D

[photoshopgrl]

:oOops.:o:D
I take that as a yes! :p

[Enrique]

I take that as a yes! :pNo, I Spoiled this episode for you in my rant on post 571 so the oops was for that. I deleted that part of it before I think you saw it.

[photoshopgrl]

No, I Spoiled this episode for you in my rant on post 571 so the oops was for that. I deleted that part of it before I think you saw it.
I somehow totally missed that post!

I don't get the hate over soulless Sam.
I think I've been as clear as possible the reasons why I hated this. I get that they had to do something, and if this had to be their choice, it just went on far far FAR too long for me.

[Enrique]

I somehow totally missed that post!


I think I've been as clear as possible the reasons why I hated this. I get that they had to do something, and if this had to be their choice, it just went on far far FAR too long for me.I get that, but I think sometimes it just gets more hate of it's share then needed. I get that the show is about the bond between the two of them and when that's broken then what show are you watching. I just don't think it was as bad and strung out as made out, but now it's over and we can get back to the real fun.:up:

[photoshopgrl]

I get that, but I think sometimes it just gets more hate of it's share then needed. I get that the show is about the bond between the two of them and when that's broken then what show are you watching. I just don't think it was as bad and strung out as made out, but now it's over and we can get back to the real fun.:up:
Okay but I have to ask how you think half the season isn't too long??

Watching Ice .... err I mean And Then There Were None now. :D

[photoshopgrl]

I really liked this one. Sad for Rufus but finally got gramps out of the way. Loved that the second Dean saw him he goes right for him saying "welcome to next time" pointing his gun at him. Dean is so awesome. I wish he had been the one to kill him though. And how true and wise was this line from Dean comforting Sam about it "Just because you're blood doesn't make you family. You got to earn that."

And Hahaha

Dean: I'm not in the mood. I just had a 12" herpes crawl out of my ear.
Sam: What?
Dean: You heard me.

Followed by

Dean: Hey there, you little herpes.
Sam: Why do you keep talking about herpes?
Dean: What? I don't. Shut up. Shut up!

[photoshopgrl]

Oh my god. I just literally spit my tea all over my clean throw on my chaise
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Balthazar: Sorry, you have me confused with the other angel. You know, the one in the dirty trench coat who's in love with you. I don't care.

It was the delivery as much as the line. Sebastian Roche and his smarmy accented angel self.

[billypritchard]

Well, you are officially caught up with me, so I must respectfully withdraw from this thread, lest I get spoiled. I'll probably go back and read it in about six months when I finish season 7. Keep it real!

[Vendikarr]

Your quickly approaching 06x20, which contains one of my all time favorite Supernatural quotes.

Get your ears ready for

Denin Wrapped Nightmares

[Lillian Nyx]

I had a lot of trouble getting through the first half of the season as well. But after a few months I went back and rewatched season six, and it was a lot better because I knew where it was heading, and I could catch a lot more of set-ups. Not my favorite storyline, and I hated the lispy-voiced actress playing Eve, but better than the first time through.

[Lillian Nyx]

I think character overall I'd have to say Dean just because he's someone that you would think they'd portray as an jackass yet he never is. Although I think each season I do go back and forth between who my favorite is.
As far as the actors go, on a superficial level, I get the appeal of Jared and in certain shots I think "damn!" but overall he doesn't really do it for me. Jensen ... always does.


Not really spoilery - episode 6x18 has some serious eye-candy.

[photoshopgrl]

I had a lot of trouble getting through the first half of the season as well. But after a few months I went back and rewatched season six, and it was a lot better because I knew where it was heading, and I could catch a lot more of set-ups. Not my favorite storyline, and I hated the lispy-voiced actress playing Eve, but better than the first time through.

I can see that although if I rewatch any it would probably be the end of Season 2 through end of Season 5 but we'll see how I feel when I'm all finished.
Watching 06x18 the western episode. Trying to slow down a bit now that I'm not in panic mode.

[photoshopgrl]

Not really spoilery - episode 6x18 has some serious eye-candy.
Well. Not sure I'm a fan of the ending but I'll hand wave it since the episode overall was pretty good. Who'd a thought Jensen would not only pull off the western gear but look really that hot in a cowboy hat. I'm usually not a fan of the look. Not sure why I'm surprised though heh.
Two things that made me laugh

Dean: You know what this means?
Bobby Singer: Yeah, I didn't get a soulenscopy for nothing.

Dean: I'm Marshall Eastwood. Clint Eastwood. This here's Walker. He's a TexasRanger.

[photoshopgrl]

Oh crap how could I have forgotten the line that cracked me up most?!

Dean: Candygram for Mongo!
Hahaha!

[photoshopgrl]

Just finished 06x19. Now that's what I'm talking about! This show is 100% back to original fantabulous Supernatural! Another quotable episode too!

Bobby: I'm thinking maybe it's time you made a call.
Dean: Why's it always got to be me that makes the call, huh? it's not like Cass lives in my ass. The dude's busy.
Dean: Cass, get out of my ass!
Cas: I was never in your...<looks around> HAHA

This entire exchange had me in stitches!!
Cas: I'll search the town. Give me a minute.
Dean: Cass, we can still see you.
Cas: Yeah, I'm still here.
Dean: Okay, well, you don't have to wait on us.
Dean: Well, now it just looks like you're pooping.
Cas: I'm powerless.
Dean: You're joking.
Cas: Something in this town is, uh.. it's affecting me. I assume it's Eve.
Dean: So, wait. Mom's making you limp?
Cas: Figuratively, yes.
Dean: How?
Cas: I don't know, but she is.
Dean: Oh, well, that's great, cuz without your power, you're basically a baby in a trench coat.
Sam: I think you hurt his feelings.

followed shortly after with:
Cas: I'm fairly unpracticed with firearms.
Dean: You know who whines? Babies.

Dean: The question is why? What does she want with a... what do you call these?
Bobby: Well, congrats, you discovered it, you get to name it.
Dean: "Jefferson Starships." Huh? Because they're horrible, and hard to kill.
And they did indeed refer to them as Starships the rest of the episode. HA!

So that brings me back to the actual episode. WTF is going on here? I thought they burned Crowley's bones? I assume now that was some kind of parlor trick between Cas and him. But why the F would Cas be working with him? Is the civil war in Heaven going so badly that he's enlisted the help of Hell? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of winning upstairs?? I'm confused. I do not want them to turn Cas into a bad guy. He's way too awesome as he is.

So that was it for the entire Eve plot? Huh. I somehow thought she was going to be a bigger story than that. I'm not sure what to make of that just yet. 3 episodes left and now I can only guess that instead of it being about Eve and Purgatory that it's about Cas and Crowley and why they are working together. The plot thickens!

No brother bickering or any kind of issues on that front at all. This was my kind of episode! We are on a huge upward swing. Three left until the end of the season.

[JYoung]

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I'm shocked at how many sites there are just dedicated to making these little gifs. TONS of them!

Also found this quote and I see I am far from alone on this thought. So this is why they are so stingy with the hugs. :)
The fans are very sensitive. They have a very barometric relationship to the relationship the boys have, so every time they hug, it’s an amazing thing. Every time they’ve been apart for awhile and then they come back, we all feel great. —Ben Edlund

[photoshopgrl]

Your quickly approaching 06x20, which contains one of my all time favorite Supernatural quotes.

Get your ears ready for

* SPOILER *

Haha!

Cas: Don't worry about them.
Crowley: Don't worry about... what, like Lucifer didn't worry? Or Michael, or Lilith, or Alistair, or Azazel didn't worry? Am I the only game piece on the board who doesn't underestimate those denim-wrapped nightmares?!?

Wow! Big time revelation! Cas once again is the Hell resserecter. Why didn't he tell them fom the start? Now they think he brought Sam back with no soul on purpose! Cas isn't a bad guy but Dean is right, he's made the wrong choices. How does one live as long as Cas without knowing making deals with Demons is always always the wrong move? I kept wanting him to at least tap Dean on the forehead and show him what we were seeing so he could understand better and try to help him out of this mess. Now I'm fearing the worst for this friendship come finale time.

[Vendikarr]

Haha!

Cas: Don't worry about them.
Crowley: Don't worry about... what, like Lucifer didn't worry? Or Michael, or Lilith, or Alistair, or Azazel didn't worry? Am I the only game piece on the board who doesn't underestimate those denim-wrapped nightmares?!?

Wow! Big time revelation! Cas once again is the Hell resserecter. Why didn't he tell them fom the start? Now they think he brought Sam back with no soul on purpose! Cas isn't a bad guy but Dean is right, he's made the wrong choices. How does one live as long as Cas without knowing making deals with Demons is always always the wrong move? I kept wanting him to at least tap Dean on the forehead and show him what we were seeing so he could understand better and try to help him out of this mess. Now I'm fearing the worst for this friendship come finale time.

Look at it this way

Unless you were an archangel, your job was to follow orders. Castiel was just a regular angel who was part of the charge into hell and freed Dean. Early Cas was like this. His exposure to the Winchesters and friendship with Dean taught him how to make his own choices. But given that his role models in making choice were Sam and Dean, you have to know he was gonna screw it up from time to time.

[Rob Helmerichs]

Or look at it this way (in addition to that other way): When you create beings whose only purpose is to obey your orders, and you stop giving orders, how is that gonna end well?

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Look at it this way

Unless you were an archangel, your job was to follow orders. Castiel was just a regular angel who was part of the charge into hell and freed Dean. Early Cas was like this. His exposure to the Winchesters and friendship with Dean taught him how to make his own choices. But given that his role models in making choice were Sam and Dean, you have to know he was gonna screw it up from time to time.Or look at it this way (in addition to that other way): When you create beings whose only purpose is to obey your orders, and you stop giving orders, how is that gonna end well?
Yeah I totally get both of these thoughts. Also add in his relationship with "flawed" humans and yeah.

I'm going to a cookout with family today so I left the final 2 for later tonight just in case there's the usual build up and cliff hanger. Have a great holiday all!

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[photoshopgrl]

Okay. Wow. Right to the temple once again. Just finished the final 2 episodes of Season 6. Did not see that coming, although maybe I should have.

Is it just me that thinks Dean was an ass for not trusting in Cas more?? He practically begged him. Dean assumes he knows what's better for the universe than an angel? I kept yelling at Cas to give him more information! Maybe a touch to the forehead so he could better understand just why he felt it necessary to team up with Crowley. This right here broke my heart:

Cas: I thought you said we were like family? Well I think that too. Shouldn't trust run both ways?
Dean: Cas, I just can't...
Cas: Dean, I do everything that you ask. I always come when you call. And I am your friend. Still, despite your lack of faith in me and now your threats, I just saved you yet again. Has anyone other than your closest kin ever done more for you? All I ask is this one thing.
Dean: Trust your plan to pop Purgatory?
Cas: I've earned that, Dean. I came to tell you that I will find Lisa and Ben and I will bring them back. Stand behind me the one time I ask.

I was yelling at Dean to say yes, he would stand behind him even if he didn't not agree with his plan and beg him to look for another in the meantime. I mean, come on!!

And even after Dean tells him to kiss his ass, he STILL shows up at the hospital, saves Lisa's life and wipes their memory FOR DEAN. Just like last season when he kicked the crap out of Dean saying he's done everything for him. He truly has. Now we find out that he's the one that pulled them both from Hell. I mean, WTF more can you ask of him??

The look on Cas' face was clear how hurt he was. Then you top that off with Balthazar betraying him and him saying "First Sam and Dean and now this. I'm doing my best in impossible circumstances. My friends, they abandoned me, plot against me.. it's difficult to understand." right before killing him. So that right there shows his feeling toward Dean. He killed Balthazar for one betrayal yet he's continuing to save Dean and Sam. Well until the end of the episode, that is.

I dunno. I know he was heading down a bad path with it all but like he said he had no other choices. God has left the building. If he doesn't do whatever it takes to stop Rafael from winning (a fight he knows he cannot win fair and square) then everything that happened in Season 5 will have been for nothing. I totally get where he's coming from.

My only problem with Cas is him messing with Sam. I'm not sure he can redeem himself after that. Everyone knows you don't mess with Sammy. Dean will never forgive that and next season if there are other consequences to that wall being taken down (and let's face it, we know there has to be more than we have seen), Dean is going to wig the F out. I think they made a bad move on that. I was all aboard Team Cas until that moment.

What a great ending to the season though. I am totally excited to start Season 7 in a few minutes and see how this plays out on all fronts.

[Church AV Guy]

Wow, just WOW! I take four or so days off, and there are PAGES in this thread to catch up on. Going back a few pages, yes, you were correct about the last seal to open Lucifer's cage. I was REALLY impressed thatyou had correctly guessed that. And again, I was impressed that you deduced that Sam was soulless. Maybe there is something to watching them in a compressed fashion, rather then one a week as they are broadcast.:)

I actually think that there is a good chance that there are more posts in this thread than in the original threads of the show.

A while back I worked on a fake spoiler for you coming up with something so outrageous that it was obviously false. I couldn't think of anything, because they have done so much stuff that is so over the top, and THEY GET AWAY WITH IT! Yeah, they both die, goto heaven, and have to break out to return to the earth. Yeah, the release the devil, but they recage him before he can completely unleash the apocalypse. Yeah, they defeat three of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, and the forth one just surrenders (his ring) to them. All outrageous, and it happened in the show WITHOUT it jumping the shark. No other show has gotten away with this much and kept it together!

Your posts have been extremely entertaining, and have reminded me again just how good this show has been. There is a purpose, even to the stuff I didn't like.

[photoshopgrl]

Wow, just WOW! I take four or so days off, and there are PAGES in this thread to catch up on. Going back a few pages, yes, you were correct about the last seal to open Lucifer's cage. I was REALLY impressed thatyou had correctly guessed that. And again, I was impressed that you deduced that Sam was soulless. Maybe there is something to watching them in a compressed fashion, rather then one a week as they are broadcast.:)

I actually think that there is a good chance that there are more posts in this thread than in the original threads of the show.

A while back I worked on a fake spoiler for you coming up with something so outrageous that it was obviously false. I couldn't think of anything, because they have done so much stuff that is so over the top, and THEY GET AWAY WITH IT! Yeah, they both die, goto heaven, and have to break out to return to the earth. Yeah, the release the devil, but they recage him before he can completely unleash the apocalypse. Yeah, they defeat three of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, and the forth one just surrenders (his ring) to them. All outrageous, and it happened in the show WITHOUT it jumping the shark. No other show has gotten away with this much and kept it together!

Your posts have been extremely entertaining, and have reminded me again just how good this show has been. There is a purpose, even to the stuff I didn't like.
Feel free to be impressed I figured out the last seal. I was uber impressed with myself. I think I pulled something patting myself on the back. ;)
However, the souless Sam thing, I only guessed based on responses here about something was missing right after watching episode 3 centering around souls. I think had nobody said anything, I might have just came to the conclusion that he still had Lucifer inside him and even after that I waffled a bit on that theory.

Even now, watching Episode 1 of Season 7. They bound Death in an effort to kill Cas aka new God. So yeah, pretty much no storyline is out of the question with this show. :)

[photoshopgrl]

And WTF with this info on my TVRage synopsis for 07x01:
As of this episode, Misha Collins is no longer listed as a series regular.
I am not pleased.

[steve614]

And WTF with this info on my TVRage synopsis for 07x01:

I am not pleased.

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[Church AV Guy]

Feel free to be impressed I figured out the last seal. I was uber impressed with myself. I think I pulled something patting myself on the back. ;)
However, the souless Sam thing, I only guessed based on responses here about something was missing right after watching episode 3 centering around souls. I think had nobody said anything, I might have just came to the conclusion that he still had Lucifer inside him and even after that I waffled a bit on that theory.

Even now, watching Episode 1 of Season 7. They bound Death in an effort to kill Cas aka new God. So yeah, pretty much no storyline is out of the question with this show. :)
Yup, that was one I mentioned (spoilerized). What other show could have the main characters attempt to kill God, without people screaming JUMP THE SHARK TIME, but somehow or other, they manage to pull it off. I wouldn't have guessed it was possible, but they have done it.

My, we have come along way from the yellow-eyed demon being the big bad, haven't we?

[photoshopgrl]

I'm curious to read what you guys thought about the Dean/Cas rant I posted. I'm also curious what the main audience thought at the time. Do we automatically always side with Dean/Sam on everything? :D

[photoshopgrl]

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I trust them, I really do. Doesn't mean I have to like it when I see things like this and that Bobby Singer dies apparently in Season 7. I would assume they both have to be back, right?? I think it would be a huge mistake not to. They have both, IMO, become an integral part of the show.

[Rob Helmerichs]

I trust them, I really do. Doesn't mean I have to like it when I see things like this and that Bobby Singer dies apparently in Season 7. I would assume they both have to be back, right?? I think it would be a huge mistake not to. They have both, IMO, become an integral part of the show.
Ah, Bobby Singer... [chews own tongue off]

[danterner]

Tee hee. :D

[photoshopgrl]

Okay stop messing with me and reply to my Cas/Dean post, damn you! :D

[photoshopgrl]

My, we have come along way from the yellow-eyed demon being the big bad, haven't we?
I really thought he would be the series bad guy and end up being the devil. Hee! You all must have had fun watching me spin my wheels.... not that I'm done doing that. I have the entire Season 7 to watch now. I did watch Episode 1 and I'm going to attempt to sneak in Episode 2 here at work.

Speaking of episode 1, am I the only person that was yelling "HYPOCRITES!" at my TV when they called on Crowley to conspire against Cas? Oh so they can work with him but if Cas does, they turn their back on him. pfffft :down: Was not happy about that at all.

Couple of things that made me laugh on this episode though. Dean asking the guard if he had any Grey Poupon. HA!

Bobby: I got all kinds of feelers out. So far, diddly.
Dean: And what exactly are you looking for?
Bobby: Exactly. What? Miracles, mass visions, trenchcoat on a tortilla, I don't know what I'm looking for.

Dean: Death is our bitch. We ain't going to die even if God pulls the trigger.
Death: Annoying little protozoa, aren't they?

[Rob Helmerichs]

I haven't enjoyed Death so much since Sandman. :D

[photoshopgrl]

I haven't enjoyed Death so much since Sandman. :D
He's pretty cool, that's for sure. I liked his btw, great pickle chips comment on the way out too. Ha!

[photoshopgrl]

Well never doing that again. CW's iPad app is HORRID! The commercials are in all the wrong places and I think it skipped ahead a few seconds a couple of times because I didn't know what was going on when it came back on. BS! So I'm going to watch again when I get home. Bottom line is Bobby is missing? House torched? NOOOOO!!!!!

Sam is messed up! At least he realizes now that Lucifer isn't real. That was starting to freak me out that he couldn't tell which was true. This isn't going to go away anytime soon is it? Damnit Cas!

So is Cas gone? For good?? Is that why he's not listed as main cast?? ARGH! I'm going to be one unhappy girl if he is. I'm tempted to google if he's in Season 8 but I'm afraid to spoil myself on something for Season 7 so I won't. But prepare to deal with my rantings if he's gone.

[Wil]

The look on Cas' faceI haven't been able to thoroughly follow this thread, so maybe this is a smeek, but I enjoyed what you wrote about Cas here. I was only a fair weather fan of the series, but I thought the Cas character added immensely. I wanted Bobby to be that kind of character, because I kinda know Jim Beaver and admire him greatly, but they nailed it with Cas.

Have you seen the "TV series universe" episode yet? Not great, but some Cas bits there were priceless!

[danterner]

I'm curious to read what you guys thought about the Dean/Cas rant I posted. I'm also curious what the main audience thought at the time. Do we automatically always side with Dean/Sam on everything? :D

I'll take a crack at commenting.

If Supernatural were Facebook, the characters would all post "It's complicated" as far as their relationships go. But Supernatural is not Facebook. Rather, it is a grandfather clock. Each character is a gear in the clock. Each gear turns and does its own thing, and each gear also interacts with the other gears. At different points, the gears may match up in a way that seems inelegant or confusing or just plain wrong. But it is intentionally done, and it is all part of making sure that the grandfather clock functions as a whole. Certainly there are times when Dean seems in the wrong and Cas seems right. And other times when Cas seems wrong and Dean seems right. There are times when they treat each other well, and times when they treat each other poorly. Same thing, with Dean and Sam. It seems to me, though, that picking at particular exchanges is potentially as counter-productive as Sam picking at his wall. Sure, we may find things to rant about if we do. But really, there's so much more enjoyment to be had if you take a step back and admire the clock and the movement of the gears as a whole rather than focus in on the way the gears are arranged at any one particular point in time.

[photoshopgrl]

I'll take a crack at commenting.

If Supernatural were Facebook, the characters would all post "It's complicated" as far as their relationships go. But Supernatural is not Facebook. Rather, it is a grandfather clock. Each character is a gear in the clock. Each gear turns and does its own thing, and each gear also interacts with the other gears. At different points, the gears may match up in a way that seems inelegant or confusing or just plain wrong. But it is intentionally done, and it is all part of making sure that the grandfather clock functions as a whole. Certainly there are times when Dean seems in the wrong and Cas seems right. And other times when Cas seems wrong and Dean seems right. There are times when they treat each other well, and times when they treat each other poorly. Same thing, with Dean and Sam. It seems to me, though, that picking at particular exchanges is potentially as counter-productive as Sam picking at his wall. Sure, we may find things to rant about if we do. But really, there's so much more enjoyment to be had if you take a step back and admire the clock and the movement of the gears as a whole rather than focus in on the way the gears are arranged at any one particular point in time.
Well your analogy was very eloquent but I hope you don't actually think I can sit back and just admire the series without nit picking each episode/interaction that happens. That's part of the fun of it! :)

[photoshopgrl]

So I'm rewatching 07x02 and I just realized that last season Mark Pellegrino wasn't given enough to do... or at least didn't get to utilize his awesomeness at being pure evil like I had anticipated when I learned he would play Lucifer. This episode he was pure gold taunting Sam. Although I feel really bad for Sam, I am enjoying Mark's performance. :)

[danterner]

So I'm rewatching 07x02 and I just realized that last season Mark Pellegrino wasn't given enough to do... or at least didn't get to utilize his awesomeness at being pure evil like I had anticipated when I learned he would play Lucifer. This episode he was pure gold taunting Sam. Although I feel really bad for Sam, I am enjoying Mark's performance. :)

Yes, it was great seeing him on both this and LOST simultaneously. As much as I enjoy him on both Supernatural and LOST, he'll always be Paul (from Dexter) to me.

[photoshopgrl]

Yes, it was great seeing him on both this and LOST simultaneously. As much as I enjoy him on both Supernatural and LOST, he'll always be Paul (from Dexter) to me.
I had to stop and think about who that was! I had totally forgotten him as Rita's ex. He's been a guest on a bunch of shows I watch. He's always such a great bad guy.

[Rob Helmerichs]

The weird thing is, he played a flamboyantly gay lawyer on The Closer...and now he always looks gay to me!

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but... :D

[photoshopgrl]

Okay just watched 07x03. Dean, Dean, Dean. You know that is going to come back to bite you in the ass and cause a rift between you and Sam. Ugh. Not looking forward to that. Although I do agree with her having to die. There was no guarantee she wouldn't kill later. Just look at Lenore and her vamps. How many lives were lost by them after Sam & Dean let them go?? But Sammy is going to go off the rails when he finds this out none the less.

And a heeled broken leg in under 4 weeks. Is that even possible?

[photoshopgrl]

Just finished 07x04. I need to get things done so that's going to be all for now. (plus I'm really trying to spread these out or I'll be rewatching the series before Oct).

This episode would not have been all that great if it hadn't followed The Girl Next Door. I'm so concerned always with the state of these brother's relationship that this episode truly had me holding my breath through a large part of it. I kept (as Dean would say) waiting on the shoe to drop. I actually had to pause to go to the episode page and see if Jewel Staite was listed in the credits. I know, I cheated! Whew. I know it's going to come back eventually but I was hoping not this soon!

And Dean's guilt is going to eat him alive. That's why he should have never done it. Haven't you learned your lesson yet, Dean? You always do things you have to know is going to cause you massive amounts of guilt and cause major issues with the person you care most about. Is it worth it?? Jeeesh.

[danterner]

If I recall, The Girl Next Door (7x03) was a Jensen-directed episode. He did a good job, I thought. I remember being a bit disappointed, though, because I went into the episode knowing only the episode title and that "Amy Pond" was in it. Visions of a Doctor Who crossover danced through my head, but nope.

I wasn't a fan of 7x04.

[photoshopgrl]

If I recall, The Girl Next Door (7x03) was a Jensen-directed episode. He did a good job, I thought. I remember being a bit disappointed, though, because I went into the episode knowing only the episode title and that "Amy Pond" was in it. Visions of a Doctor Who crossover danced through my head, but nope.

I wasn't a fan of 7x04.

Never watched Dr Who so I didn't get that.
I thought 07x04 was an okay stand alone, they always have quite a few of them in between the season arc.
I miss Cas already.

[danterner]

Never watched Doctor Who? Knowing your taste in other shows from your posts on TCF, I'm pretty confident you'd love it (at least beginning with the 2005 reboot). The stories are exciting and intelligently written, and there are strong season-long arcs with lots of twists and surprises along the way, with a deft mix of action, horror, and comedy, but when you get right down to it, it is all about the very deep and complex characters and their interactions and relationships and their love and loyalty and bond with each other. I know Deadwood is next on your list (it's next on my list too, as soon as I finish The Wire - I'm 5 episodes in to season 4 of 5), but you really should check out Doctor Who. No Buffy alum are in it. (Well, except for Giles, for one episode). At least do this: spend the hour it takes to watch the episode "Blink." It is a standalone and is available on Netflix streaming. Watch it and see what you think. It holds up to any episode of Supernatural (and feels quite similar to one, in some respects).

[photoshopgrl]

Never watched Doctor Who? Knowing your taste in other shows from your posts on TCF, I'm pretty confident you'd love it (at least beginning with the 2005 reboot). The stories are exciting and intelligently written, and there are strong season-long arcs with lots of twists and surprises along the way, with a deft mix of action, horror, and comedy, but when you get right down to it, it is all about the very deep and complex characters and their interactions and relationships. I know Deadwood is next on your list (it's next on my list too, as soon as I finish The Wire - I'm 5 episodes in to season 4 of 5), but you really should check out Doctor Who. No Buffy alum are in it. (Well, except for Giles, for one episode). At least do this: spend the hour it takes to watch the episode "Blink." It is a standalone and is available on Netflix streaming. Watch it and see what you think.
Okay I'll add it to the list.

[photoshopgrl]

I'm sure you have all seen this but just in case, I found it interesting. The quality sucks but it's Jared's original audition for the part of Sam.

BJRWxp8CZ6U

[JYoung]

What?
You're not up to 7x13 already?

;)

[steve614]

What?
You're not up to 7x13 already?

;)

Cristina needs to wean herself and ease her way through Season 7.
Otherwise the result will be major withdrawal waiting until Season 8 starts (BTDT between S6 & S7). :p

[photoshopgrl]

Cristina needs to wean herself and ease her way through Season 7.
Otherwise the result will be major withdrawal waiting until Season 8 starts (BTDT between S6 & S7). :p
This. I am dreading getting to the finale because they always have some crazy cliff hanger and then I'll have months to wait! I'll have to just start from the pilot again. ;)

[photoshopgrl]

And now that I'm really getting closer to being caught up, I am cautiously checking out more youtube stuff. I love this - it's 4 parts. (and somewhere in there a fan asks them about fanfic and says she doesn't mean the dirty kind and Jensen looks seriously irritated and says as far as he's concerned that doesn't exist!) I love how fun they are and seeing their chemistry off the show makes is clear how they are so great on it.

DejWzV6mOpA

[photoshopgrl]

Okay so I watched 07x05 with the witches. So the boys end up allowing them to live. I get it because they didn't kill them with whatever instructions Bobby gave them. Then Don saves their lives from the Leviathan dude.......but still. I don't like that Dean kills Amy but let's 2 witches live. Isn't the same principle? Makes me all the more annoyed that he killed Amy behind Sam's back. I'm just waiting on it to come to light.

So is that it for Sam's mental issues?? Just like that he's fine and back to normal? I really thought they'd stretch the seeing Lucifer thing out more. Huh.

And the LOL for me was:
"There were hearts in my cupcakes. Hearts in my cupcakes. That's never happened before, hearts in my cupcakes!"

[robojerk]

So the boys end up allowing them to live. I get it because they didn't kill them with whatever instructions Bobby gave them.

It's been awhile since I watched that episode, but IIRC Sam and Dean were seriously outmatched when it came to the witch couple, and it was more that the witches allowed them to live than the other way around. Correct me if I'm wrong, like I said it's been awhile since I've seen the episode..

[JYoung]

Okay so I watched 07x05 with the witches. So the boys end up allowing them to live. I get it because they didn't kill them with whatever instructions Bobby gave them. Then Don saves their lives from the Leviathan dude.......but still. I don't like that Dean kills Amy but let's 2 witches live. Isn't the same principle? Makes me all the more annoyed that he killed Amy behind Sam's back. I'm just waiting on it to come to light.

So is that it for Sam's mental issues?? Just like that he's fine and back to normal? I really thought they'd stretch the seeing Lucifer thing out more. Huh.

And the LOL for me was:
"There were hearts in my cupcakes. Hearts in my cupcakes. That's never happened before, hearts in my cupcakes!"

Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh.
:D

BTW, I'm about to dive into Game of Thrones this week.

[madscientist]

Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh.
:D

BTW, I'm about to dive into Game of Thrones this week.So, then it will be Cristina's turn to chuckle at you I suppose. GoT gives at least as many opportunities as Supernatural--if not more.

Just remember, turnabout is fair play! :D

[photoshopgrl]

It's been awhile since I watched that episode, but IIRC Sam and Dean were seriously outmatched when it came to the witch couple, and it was more that the witches allowed them to live than the other way around. Correct me if I'm wrong, like I said it's been awhile since I've seen the episode..
When has that ever stopped them?? :D

Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heh.
:D

BTW, I'm about to dive into Game of Thrones this week.
You and your heh heh heh's. :mad:

You haven't watched any GoT yet?

[photoshopgrl]

Hahaha! I'm sorry but this made me almost spit tea.

http://i46.tinypic.com/34ozm7t.jpg

[photoshopgrl]

And it drops!! Watching 07x06 and the Dean Laviathan just told Sammy he killed Amy. I had to pause to say OH NO!
More thoughts later.

[photoshopgrl]

Okay knew there would be brother issues over this. Been smooth sailing on that front too long now. Ugh. But how is it smart to continue to separate? Now how the F long is this gonna go on? Cripes. These writers just loooooooove to torture me.
So is this Dick Roman the Laviathan leader? Is he one that was also in Cas? I know I know.... Cue another round of "heh heh heh" ;)

[Rob Helmerichs]

I think it's safe (i.e., not spoilery; remember what Death told them) to say that Cas had all of Leviathan (as well as all the other souls in Purgatory) inside him. When he put the souls back into Purgatory, Leviathan (plural) stayed behind, hence the reservoir explodey. Leviathan then spread, well, wherever the water supply took them. Dick is a part of what escaped via Cas.

What all that means, well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we, heh heh heh. :D

[photoshopgrl]

I think it's safe (i.e., not spoilery; remember what Death told them) to say that Cas had all of Leviathan (as well as all the other souls in Purgatory) inside him. When he put the souls back into Purgatory, Leviathan (plural) stayed behind, hence the reservoir explodey. Leviathan then spread, well, wherever the water supply took them. Dick is a part of what escaped via Cas.

What all that means, well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we, heh heh heh. :D

I guess I didn't phrase that very well. I know all the Laviathan were in him. I just wasn't 100% sure that Dick Roman was a Laviathan.

[crowfan]

You're gonna pass me any minute now. My next ep is 7x13.

Brace yourself for 7x10.

[photoshopgrl]

You're gonna pass me any minute now. My next ep is 7x13.

Brace yourself for 7x10.

I'm trying to take it slow. I just watched 07x07 and I'm gonna stop. Shocked they made up so fast! (but very very happy!!)
Dean was hilarious. From threatening the waiter guy if he gave him another affirmation to his "I can't believe he was boning her" crack.

Why brace myself?? Don't scare me!

[Rob Helmerichs]

Do prepare yourself for some Dick jokes.

Maybe they should have resisted, but was there any chance that they could? :D

[photoshopgrl]

Do prepare yourself for some Dick jokes.

Maybe they should have resisted, but was there any chance that they could? :D
Well knowing the character of Dean, there's no way he would be able to resist, so the writers are keeping true to his nature. :)

[crowfan]

Why brace myself?? Don't scare me!It's a powerful episode.

I've found season 7 so far to be pretty good. I especially liked the Buffy alum duking it out.

[crowfan]

Oh and a word of advice: don't watch 7x9 unless you are going to have time to watch 7x10 right after it. 7x9 ends with a cliffhanger and you're going to want to watch 7x10 right after it.

7x12 was great. :up:

[photoshopgrl]

Oh and a word of advice: don't watch 7x9 unless you are going to have time to watch 7x10 right after it. 7x9 ends with a cliffhanger and you're going to want to watch 7x10 right after it.
Good to know, I'll do that maybe tomorrow then.

[photoshopgrl]

And there's the quote from Crowley. It was pretty easy to figure out witchery was involved with Sam being in love with Becky. Haha still it was a pretty fun episode. So not sure I should watch more since I'll want to watch 09 and 10 together. I'm so dreading getting caught up and it's very very difficult not to keep watching so I'm fighting myself on this.

Good news is I got my BFF agreeing to watch the show. I sent her the Eye of the Tiger video and some panel Q&A vids where nothing revealed about the show. She thinks they seem really fun and the show sounds good so yay another viewer come Season 8 time.

[photoshopgrl]

Okay one thing that's bugging me now. If the brothers are thought to be dead again, why are they still driving random cars instead of the Impala?? Why isn't Dean bitching about it every time they get into said other random car?

[robojerk]

Okay one thing that's bugging me now. If the brothers are thought to be dead again, why are they still driving random cars instead of the Impala?? Why isn't Dean bitching about it every time they get into said other random car?

Human law enforcement thinks their dead, the Leviathan know better and are looking for the impala.

[photoshopgrl]

Human law enforcement thinks their dead, the Leviathan know better and are looking for the impala.
Okay that makes sense then. I miss it already though. Boo.

And from my friend just now:
Julie
Happy to report almost done watching the pilot as we speak. Not sounding any alarms or anything but I do believe I'm already hooked.

:D

[robojerk]

Human law enforcement thinks their dead, the Leviathan know better and are looking for the impala.They're.
I'm sure some of you were going crazy. :D

[photoshopgrl]

They're.
I'm sure some of you were going crazy. :D

I wasn't going to say it. ;)

[fmowry]

This thread would have 10 posts if some ugly dude started it. :) Just sayin'!

[Rob Helmerichs]

This is the Internet! Maybe she IS some ugly dude! :D

[Vendikarr]

Okay that makes sense then. I miss it already though. Boo.


It bothered me too. The Impala is part of the family.

[robojerk]

It bothered me too. The Impala is part of the family.Especially with the way they made the car to be a big deal to help Sam to momentarily gain control while possessed by Lucifer and throw himself/Lucifer and Michael/Adam into the cage. It felt really important.

[photoshopgrl]

Especially with the way they made the car to be a big deal to help Sam to momentarily gain control while possessed by Lucifer and throw himself/Lucifer and Michael/Adam into the cage. It felt really important.
Along with the entire voice over from Chuck talking about it being the most important car in the world.

Does this mean it's gone all season? Say it ain't so!!!

[robojerk]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OUR5oBSMQEM/Te7tFKPMGPI/AAAAAAAAOII/U3pSMtr2e7c/s1600/FGcarexplode.gif
Just kidding...... :D

[photoshopgrl]

Ha! Wouldn't matter, Dean would totally rebuild that!

[photoshopgrl]

My favorite SPN moment of the series.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7991/spn401brotherhug.gif

But I must say, Dean lip syncing Air Supply is really up there. Between his face expressions and Sam's, that was hi-larious!!!

[danterner]

I (missed/miss) the Impala, too.

[JYoung]

You haven't watched any GoT yet?

No, I don't get HBO anymore.

I will peruse your thread in a bit but I did watch the first two episodes last night.

Wasn't quite seeing the appeal until the last couple of minutes of the first episode.

[photoshopgrl]

DAMN YOU Supernatural! Don't you get tired of making people cry??? Gah! RIP Bobby. I'm so not happy. First Cas and now Bobby. This season is pissing me off killing all my characters!!

[madscientist]

No, I don't get HBO anymore.

I will peruse your thread in a bit but I did watch the first two episodes last night.

Wasn't quite seeing the appeal until the last couple of minutes of the first episode.

Heh heh heh heh :D :p

Seriously, it does take a bit of staking out positions and relationships before they can start moving. But they do definitely move.

[Rob Helmerichs]

DAMN YOU Supernatural! Don't you get tired of making people cry??? Gah! RIP Bobby. I'm so not happy.
Heh heh heh.

:D

[photoshopgrl]

Heh heh heh.

:D

And Damn you too!

[photoshopgrl]

Watched through 07x12. Seems like 11 and 12 were pretty much filler. Not bad episodes. I kind of liked the girl in 11. Cute and tough. Dean is surprisingly good with kids I've noticed. Even when he's trying his best not to be. And Jody was back for the 1944 episode. That was kind of cool. I was wondering how Dean was going to leave a note for Sam that nobody else would find in that house. Clever. I liked it. And umm on a more superficial note.... Dean in 40s dress complete with fedora and a tommy gun? ....... words fail.

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/8488/sn712b0206b.jpg

[JYoung]

DAMN YOU Supernatural! Don't you get tired of making people cry??? Gah! RIP Bobby. I'm so not happy. First Cas and now Bobby. This season is pissing me off killing all my characters!!

Balls!

[phox_mulder]

DAMN YOU Supernatural! Don't you get tired of making people cry??? Gah! RIP Bobby. I'm so not happy. First Cas and now Bobby. This season is pissing me off killing all my characters!!

Balls!

Idgits!


phox

[Rob Helmerichs]

Idgits!
That's spelled "idjit," you...er... :D

[Vendikarr]

Watched through 07x12. Seems like 11 and 12 were pretty much filler. Not bad episodes. I kind of liked the girl in 11. Cute and tough. Dean is surprisingly good with kids I've noticed. Even when he's trying his best not to be. And Jody was back for the 1944 episode. That was kind of cool. I was wondering how Dean was going to leave a note for Sam that nobody else would find in that house. Clever. I liked it. And umm on a more superficial note.... Dean in 40s dress complete with fedora and a tommy gun? ....... words fail.

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/8488/sn712b0206b.jpg

I always wondered if Ness's helper lady was related to Bobby. She just had that same personality, and her use of Bobby's favorite word. He had to get it from somewhere.

[photoshopgrl]

I always wondered if Ness's helper lady was related to Bobby. She just had that same personality, and her use of Bobby's favorite word. He had to get it from somewhere.
I just took that as it was one of those words used in that era. Bobby's old school. But I suppose you could be on to something. That kiss she planted on Dean was hilarious too.

[photoshopgrl]

Haha!! My friend watched the first 8 episodes yesterday. She's hooked!

[photoshopgrl]

Okay so I watched 07x13 and 07x14. Wow. For stand alone episodes they sure both packed a punch. Dean fathers a monster and then what a great moment when Sam confronts him about not being able to kill her after the whole Amy thing. And the casting on the teenage Emma was amazing. She looked exactly like what you would expect a kid from Sara Canning to look like. Creepy!

And all I have to say about the other is this Sam with glitter clown remains giving Dean a giant slinky was weirdly sweet. Dean genuinely laughing for once was nice too. Oh and this:


http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1937/normalpluckypennywhistl.jpg
I had to pause I was laughing so hard.
:up:

[photoshopgrl]

So I saw some on set photos from them filming the new season. They really just don't want Sam to be attractive at all, do they? That hair is horrid and sloppy looking.
http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/balaban-supernatural/liane-balaban-supernatural-set-02.jpg

[photoshopgrl]

So all my SPN people have abandoned my thread. :(

[zordude]

So all my SPN people have abandoned my thread. :(

You shouldn't have spread that butterface rumor. :p

I think people just weren't that excited about this season.

I'm just glad that we'll have weekly threads when the show comes back :)

[photoshopgrl]

Well I'm not not excited about the season but they are pissing me off killing all my characters. Frank is okay but a Bobby Singer he is not! I'm going to try to get to 07x15 tonight. I'm catching up on all the side work I put off while I was in a Supernatural trance!

[danterner]

So all my SPN people have abandoned my thread. :(

I'm still here! And I liked S7 better than S6. Just staying quiet so as to avoid spoiling what's yet to come.

[JYoung]

So all my SPN people have abandoned my thread. :(

Nope, I'm just sitting here biting my tongue.

[photoshopgrl]

Okay I have time to watch now. Synopsis is puzzling for 07x15 though. :confused::confused:
Sam and Dean return to the town where they tortured a demon for information four years earlier and then exorcised it. Now the demon is apparently back and taking up its old trade: killing woman. Meanwhile, Sam tries to cope with his visions of Lucifer.
Umm what? So all of a sudden after all these episodes/all this time, he's having issues dealing with Lucifer in his brain again? I don't get it. Guess I'll be watching and find out. I hope it doesn't come out of thin air after he's been so good at coping.

[Church AV Guy]

So all my SPN people have abandoned my thread. :(
Still here, but havn't much to say. Your comments are still very entertaining. As others have said, and is now very apparent to you, the last two seasons were a bit of a letdown compared to the ones before them. Oddly enough, they are really good, but fall short of rivetingly outstanding. I was very unhappy when they allowed Bobby to get shot, and the change of cars was another loss of a character, AND what has happened to Cas? There are answers though still coming up.

[photoshopgrl]

Still here, but havn't much to say. Your comments are still very entertaining. As others have said, and is now very apparent to you, the last two seasons were a bit of a letdown compared to the ones before them. Oddly enough, they are really good, but fall short of rivetingly outstanding. I was very unhappy when they allowed Bobby to get shot, and the change of cars was another loss of a character, AND what has happened to Cas? There are answers though still coming up.

Yes. That's it in a nutshell. 3 main, very important characters gone. Not to mention the near lack of demons this season. It just feels empty-ish. I still love it but it's certainly not quite as great. Oddly enough, my love of Dean and Sam has not even slightly diminished though.

[photoshopgrl]

Okay watched 15 & 16 last night. I guess I see what they did with Lucifer. He was always there but they just didn't focus on it because Sam was doing his little hand thing. (which is funny if you think about that... how often they get the crap kicked out of them but never have marks/scars days later yet Sam still has that on his hand after how long? :D) Episode 15 was a good example of what a demon possession can do to a person. Oh and not to pick because I did like the episode okay but really, Supernatural? You think that hair on Sam from supposedly 4 years ago was even remotely accurate? :D

Episode 16 was good as well. I'm just not all that impressed with the Laviathans. They are supposedly the baddest creatures ever yet they are just kind of blah for me. I did like George though. I don't suppose they allowed him to live, but they should have let him eat that bitch first. I was seriously scared for Sam for a minute when he was driving and almost fell asleep! Yikes!

And RIP Frank. Didn't love him but it's just another character death!

I made the mistake of reading the synopsis for 17 before I went to bed and now I'm both disappointed the surprise is ruined and so happy I could cry at the same time! :D

http://images.tvrage.com/episode_galleries/6/5410/33067.jpg
When Sam's worsening mental condition puts him into a psych hospital, Dean goes looking or a healer and finds one man seemingly blessed of God: a man who bears a striking resemblance to Castiel.

CAS IS BACK!!!! Did not see that coming!!! YAY!
Now if we can just have Cas fix Sam and go retrieve Bobby as well, I'll be all set.

[steve614]

I made the mistake of reading the synopsis for 17 before I went to bed and now I'm both disappointed the surprise is ruined and so happy I could cry at the same time! :D

http://images.tvrage.com/episode_galleries/6/5410/33067.jpg
When Sam's worsening mental condition puts him into a psych hospital, Dean goes looking or a healer and finds one man seemingly blessed of God: a man who bears a striking resemblance to Castiel.

CAS IS BACK!!!! Did not see that coming!!! YAY!
Now if we can just have Cas fix Sam and go retrieve Bobby as well, I'll be all set.

And the next roller coaster ride begins! :D:p

[photoshopgrl]

And the next roller coaster ride begins! :D:p
Ha! That shouldn't make me happy but at least it's not boring!

[photoshopgrl]

Okay WHAT?!?!? :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Did you all know this? How did I miss this??
At what point did you know where your character was going?

COLLINS: At the very beginning of Season 6, they gave me a pretty good indication of the arc of the character, but I didn’t know that I was going God, at that point. They actually originally planned to make Castiel God at the end of Season 5. That’s a little tidbit for you. But instead,
Chuck was God.
From this interview:
http://collider.com/misha-collins-supernatural-interview/116473/

[IndyJones1023]

It was right in that last episode with Chuck. One of my favorite reveals.

[photoshopgrl]

It was right in that last episode with Chuck. One of my favorite reveals.
I'm going to rewatch the second I get home. I assume I missed something in the voice over he was doing??

[IndyJones1023]

I don't remember the details anymore. :( Maybe I should have been rewatching with you.

[Vendikarr]

I'm going to rewatch the second I get home. I assume I missed something in the voice over he was doing??

In the voiceover at the end of the episode, Chuck just fades away. This led most people to believe he was God. It's good to see it in writing.

[danterner]

In the voiceover at the end of the episode, Chuck just fades away. This led most people to believe he was God. It's good to see it in writing.

I think there might have been some discussion back and forth here on the episode thread about whether the scene meant he was God or not. I agree, it is good to see confirmation.

[Vendikarr]

Talking about Chuck...

Cas told the boys that Chuck's books would become the gospel of Winchester. I have always wondered how they make the transition from cheesy fiction to religious lore. The end of the world went without notice, so who would ever believe it.

[danterner]

The actor who plays Chuck has become one of those actors I see everywhere but can never place where I know them from. Most recently, I saw him while watching an old episode of Alias. (He played a fellow agent who met Sydney in a bar in Shanghai. He started out in a suit and tie but she took him into a bathroom and quickly disguised him as a goth, including stapling an earring onto his ear). It wasn't until days later that I realized who had played the part.

[IndyJones1023]

That's weird to me, because I always recognize actors in other roles.

[photoshopgrl]

In the voiceover at the end of the episode, Chuck just fades away. This led most people to believe he was God. It's good to see it in writing.I think there might have been some discussion back and forth here on the episode thread about whether the scene meant he was God or not. I agree, it is good to see confirmation.

Okay so maybe I didn't miss anything then. I know his voiceover just kind of faded but I just took that to be the end of the story as far as Chuck the profit knew (and because the original 5 season arc had concluded). In the crazy wedding episode, he was mentioned but only because he dumped crazy superfan99 girl. I have wondered why he hasn't been brought back since Season 5 though.

[photoshopgrl]

Okay so I'm a dork. I just ordered this shirt.
http://www.riptapparel.com/graveyard/hunters-choice-salt/

and there are many I want on this site!!
http://www.redbubble.com/explore/supernatural

[danterner]

Okay so maybe I didn't miss anything then. I know his voiceover just kind of faded but I just took that to be the end of the story as far as Chuck the profit knew (and because the original 5 season arc had concluded). In the crazy wedding episode, he was mentioned but only because he dumped crazy superfan99 girl. I have wondered why he hasn't been brought back since Season 5 though.

It wasn't that his voiceover faded -- he himself faded. In a "beam me up, Scottie" sort of way that seemed to imply (to some) he was God. If was a definite WTF moment.

http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=God#Is_Chuck_God.3F

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/supernatural/supernatural-is-chuck-shurley-36567.aspx

[photoshopgrl]

It wasn't that his voiceover faded -- he himself faded. In a "beam me up, Scottie" sort of way that seemed to imply (to some) he was God. If was a definite WTF moment.
OH WOW I just rewatched that. He did fade. I must have missed that through my sad sad tears the first time around!!

[JYoung]

Okay WHAT?!?!? :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Did you all know this? How did I miss this??

From this interview:
http://collider.com/misha-collins-supernatural-interview/116473/

Uh, yeah..... you missed the big clue.

It's one of the reasons I wonder why the Fundies aren't up in arms over this show.

[photoshopgrl]

It's one of the reasons I wonder why the Fundies aren't up in arms over this show.
And this is why it's so SO shocking to me that MY MOM watches this show. She is really the most ridiculously religious person I've ever known.

ETA: growing up we had a sticker on the glove box of the car that said "Jesus is coming at any moment. Driver will disappear" and do you know how upsetting that is for a child to read everyday?? LOL

[JYoung]

And this is why it's so SO shocking to me that MY MOM watches this show. She is really the most ridiculously religious person I've ever known.



Do you know why this is the case?

I'd think that this show is chock full of stuff that should be getting Wildmon and the AFA on their case but I've heard nary a peep about it.
I'm kind of surprised by that.

[photoshopgrl]

Do you know why this is the case?

I'd think that this show is chock full of stuff that should be getting Wildmon and the AFA on their case but I've heard nary a peep about it.
I'm kind of surprised by that.

Honestly I have no idea. She says she watches it for the brothers. When I asked how she could watch the other stuff about angels and Lucifer and such and she just said "oh I know. I don't like that part of it" LOL that's MOST of it. I think she liked the more stand alone eps about ghosts and such and probably does a FFW through things that offend her precious religion. I really can't explain it fully. This is a woman that wouldn't even let me watch Three's Company as a kid because he lived with two girls.

Anyhow just watched the return of Cas. Now I'm mad again. So Cas is just going to have to deal with Lucifer in his head forever?? They best not leave him rot in there!

[IndyJones1023]

How long has "forever" ever lasted on this show?

[photoshopgrl]

How long has "forever" ever lasted on this show?
Well if it's more than 2 episodes it might as well be forever! There aren't that many left! I need more Cas in my life.

[IndyJones1023]

Buy a trenchcoat.

[photoshopgrl]

Buy a trenchcoat.
Haha

[photoshopgrl]

BOBBY FRIGGIN SINGER!!! Oh show, you tricksters! You had me! They have proven to be able to twist any reality around so i fully expect ghost Bobby to be seen and helping out the boys before ya know it. First Cas and now Bobby!! Now can we get the Impala back too? Maybe Dean's necklace that I just know Sam retrieved from the trash can way back when. I know I know not trying to push my luck here. I'm pretty happy right now.

Also speaking of the episode itself, that was super creepy and funny just like many of the season 1 episodes. That Grudge looking thing will never not freak me out. I might have nightmares now. Yikes! Remind me not to get drunk at my concert tomorrow. ;)

On to the next. I'm getting sad only 5 left. Then what will I do until October??

[Vendikarr]

On to the next. I'm getting sad only 5 left. Then what will I do until October??

You will find yourself on Youtube watching clips of episodes, and the gag reals again and the music videos.

And you'll wait...

[steve614]

BOBBY FRIGGIN SINGER!!! Oh show, you tricksters! You had me! They have proven to be able to twist any reality around so i fully expect ghost Bobby to be seen and helping out the boys before ya know it. First Cas and now Bobby!! Now can we get the Impala back too? Maybe Dean's necklace that I just know Sam retrieved from the trash can way back when. I know I know not trying to push my luck here. I'm pretty happy right now.
Can't really say much here, other than you're almost caught up with the rest of us. I think come seasons end, you'll be http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/spotman.gif, http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/swear.gif, and http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/dizzy.gif all at the same time. :p

On to the next. I'm getting sad only 5 left. Then what will I do until October??

Suffer with the rest of us. :D

[zordude]

On to the next. I'm getting sad only 5 left. Then what will I do until October??

http://www.bolumrehberi.com/images/logo/Deadwood.jpg

[photoshopgrl]

http://www.bolumrehberi.com/images/logo/Deadwood.jpg

Haha! I know I know. I just don't know if I want another new show on my brain yet. We'll see. But I do promise you I will not watch anything else new before Deadwood!

I'm going to be gone today and most of tomorrow so maybe before the weekend is over I'll watch the last 4 of this. My friend is already on Season 2 Episode 4. She's so hooked and her responses to me are so similar to what my earlier responses where in here. I love it.

[Church AV Guy]

My friend is already on Season 2 Episode 4. She's so hooked and her responses to me are so similar to what my earlier responses where in here. I love it.
Get her to post her thoughts on line here. Yours have been plenty entertaning. While we all wait until next season starts, we can enjoy her reactions to the previous ones, like we did yours.

[photoshopgrl]

Get her to post her thoughts on line here. Yours have been plenty entertaning. While we all wait until next season starts, we can enjoy her reactions to the previous ones, like we did yours.

I don't want her reading the thread and being spoiled or I would. Plus she's not quite as chatty as me. For example her response to the scarecrow episode:
"what in THE frick....just watched the scarecrow episode...what's with the girl talking to the goblet full of blood at the end??? Crazy ****!! That bitch better leave my boys alone!!!"
Haha

[IndyJones1023]

Deadwood sucked.

[Rob Helmerichs]

Deadwood sucked.
Ah, but WHAT did it suck, Mr. Wu?

[zordude]

Ah, but WHAT did it suck, Mr. Wu?

I never should have taught him that word

[photoshopgrl]

Okay I'm about to watch the final 4. I read the synopsis for them all so I'm sure I won't be able to stop. I'm guessing these last 4 are pretty much all tied together as they all talk about Dick Roman and the Laviathans.

Is there no gag reel for Season 7? I can't seem to find anything on Youtube. Was going to watch that when I finished. Or maybe it's with the bluray that hasn't been released yet so that's why it's not on there?

[photoshopgrl]

Nevermind, I answered my own question by searching the Wiki. And now I'm extra super duper excited for this:
The Season 7 DVD and Blu-Ray will be released in the US on 18th September. Among the special features will be three episode commentaries, an interview with seven Supernatural directors and Jensen singing "All Out Of Love" from 7.06 Slash Fiction. Expect a preview of the gag reel at Comic Con 2012!

[photoshopgrl]

Okay wow. Where to begin on those last 4 episodes!! Let's just start with my reaction to the ending.

Purgatory! Dean is alone? Where the F did Cas disappear to? He can't have his angel vanishing abilities there, can he?? Did God pull him out? And leave Dean? WTF!! I hate cliff hangers!

Those red eyes were creeeeepy. How on earth are they getting Dean out of this? They've gone to great lengths to show how next to impossible it's been to open the door to purgatory!

Poor Sam! He was so confused and helpless looking there at the end all alone not knowing what the hell just happened. I'm sure he'll figure it out but that was hard to watch. Jared just owns it when they need you to really feel his pain/confusion.

The Impala!! But no no no no no with Meg driving it. That's like sacrilegious! Poor baby crashed. Sam get to rebuilding that so she's back to pristine condition for Dean when he gets back. Oh and no iPod this time. ;)

Speaking of Cas. He had some LOL moments with his simpleness but I was starting to get annoyed with it so I'm glad he pulled his crap together at the end to help Dean get the job done. Now can we not limit him to barely being in 5 fraking episodes next season??

Do ghosts go to Purgatory? I'm trying to figure out if that really was it for Bobby. If so what was the point in the ghost thing? He really had no purpose and I don't want that to be it. Maybe he can help Dean and Cas down there.

Oh and I have a comment about Season 8 spoiler I read:

Sam is getting a love interest. I swear to GOD they better not have him up here living his life with some new chick while Dean is fighting in Purgatory. First of all, we already have had them both hooking up while the other was away. Can we not for once show them actively fighting to get the other out. Kind of like what we saw in Mystery Spot?? I don't want to hear about how hard Sam tried after the fact, I want to see him going mad with anguish. Jared is SOOO good that that, why not allow him to show off his chops?
I cannot wait for the brother moment when they are reunited too. They seem to get better each time. :)

But really, guys, can we cut Jared's hair?? No, really. It's starting to look like Fabio. And what FBI agent have you ever seen look that sloppy? I'll deal with it for a few but every season it gets worse and worse. Just when I was accepting of this look:

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/supernatural-padalecki-comic-con.jpg
they go and let it grow out over the summer into that mop I posted earlier. Ugh.

But aside from my minor complaints I think the season ended on a very high note and I cannot wait for the premier to see where they go with it. Seriously, I can't wait. It needs to start now.

[danterner]

I've watched the first 2 episodes. I have to say so far so good. I've already recognized quite a few faces in just two episodes. I have a long way to go though, don't I? :o

It blows me away that in just over a month you have watched the entirety of the series and are now caught up. Holy cow.

Very interesting thought there, about Bobby perhaps continuing on next season as a ghost in Purgatory. They could be playing it coy, but my impression was really that he is now off the show. The ghost episodes were meaningful in that they were like a final swan song for the character.

So now you can go back and read some of the hidden spoilers we posted in this thread along the way, if you want.

[photoshopgrl]

It blows me away that in just over a month you have watched the entirety of the series and are now caught up. Holy cow.

Very interesting thought there, about Bobby perhaps continuing on next season as a ghost in Purgatory. They could be playing it coy, but my impression was really that he is now off the show. The ghost episodes were meaningful in that they were like a final swan song for the character.

So now you can go back and read some of the hidden spoilers we posted in this thread along the way, if you want.

I can't believe I actually got anything else in my life accomplished with how obsessed I am with this show! And Comic-Con is happening this weekend so there should be lots of stuff soon online from interviews/panels. I can't wait to watch. Hee!

I plan to read this thread again just to laugh at myself. Wasn't even thinking of all the spoilers but yeah, I'll be reading those too. :)

[photoshopgrl]

Reading this thread from the beginning and realizing some things. Quote post from hell sorry!

This is not a show that just drops things in for the (ahem) hell of it..
So funny how that didn't click when you typed it but reading it back now I actually laughed at you.

That may switch back and forth a few times over the course of the series. They are both fairly complex, evolving characters.
They have switched back and forth but I think they've done their best to keep Sam in the unlikable role moreso than Dean. First the demon blood thing and then souless Sam.

Don't worry about the voices. It's a gradual change, I doubt you'll notice. It's like when you get a pet and you don't really notice it growing until you find some old pictures of when it was small.
OH WOW! You are so right. How did they do that? I just went back to Hell House from season 1 cuz I loved it so much and they sound hilarious.

OT, but let me know how you like your Roku. I've got a Logitech Review, but we just finished our basement and I might in the market for another "media box".
FYI Roku is awesome for streaming but not downloaded torrents. I grabbed Season 7 mkv files and Roku wouldn't recognize the media. So I had to plug them onto a flash drive and play via my bluray player instead.

Dude. I just finished Mystery Spot. That is a favorite of yours???? I absolutely hated hated hated that episode! Stupid Trixter! Poor Sam. That was not right at all!!! They really have to save Dean. Sam is not going to be okay without him. Not at all! The only good thing about this episode was another brother hug.I loved Mystery Spot..I hated it because it was so good. Such great acting. Gut wrenching. I did not want to keep watching Dean die! It was killing me. I'm so in love with these characters it is ridiculous.
Now that I'm caught up I have fond memories of Mystery Spot. It's actually one of my favorites. If only I knew then how many times I'd have to watch both character's demise, it wouldn't have bothered me so much. :D

It seems this show goes like this: One is always dying and the other is always sacrificing themselves. One is always lost and the other is always searching for them. One is always lying and the other is always finding out and feeling deceived.
Wow, I had this pegged early on. Still true. They still can't figure out keeping things from each other will always end badly. Stupid boys! ;)

I too was trying to come up with a fake spoiler for fun, but really can't think of anything far out enough... (Don't read.)
Like when they tried to kill God, or when they themselves were killed and had to break out of Heaven to get back to earth. Both of these situations sound like good over-the-top comic "boasts" about the show, but in a sense, they both really happened in the show. It seems amazing that ANYONE could pull off anything THAT outragous and ambitious, but they did it!
This show really just delivers the goods, as it were.
Ha! Yes, those do seem like they should be fake spoilers and I probably would have thought you were messing with me had I read them at the time.

I know, right? I gave up on coming up with fake spoilers after thinking about it and realizing that the real show has featured things like

A giant suicidal porn-loving stuffed teddy bear

How can you top something like that?!

She'll be hitting that episode soon. Talk
About things coming suddenly out of left field, if I recall that episode also includes

Sam suddenly being killed by a bolt of lightning
Again! I would have totally thought you made them up. Especially the teddy bear!!

You know how we keep saying "____ is a complicated, evolving character"? Cas makes that statement seem silly in relation to other characters. :D
Wow. You were so not kidding. Complex doesn't even cover Cas.

And the finale episode title makes it pretty clear they are going to fail on the keeping Lucifer from getting out thing. So all this will have been for nothing. Ugh. My heart is broken. :o
I swear I got all teary eyed just reading my own emotions spilled into this thread along the way. Wow, this show is just simply amazing.

I had a lot of trouble getting through the first half of the season as well. But after a few months I went back and rewatched season six, and it was a lot better because I knew where it was heading, and I could catch a lot more of set-ups. Not my favorite storyline, and I hated the lispy-voiced actress playing Eve, but better than the first time through.
I might rewatch now that I'm caught up just to see if I hate it as much the second time around.

[JYoung]

Damn.
No more torturing Cristina


;)

[photoshopgrl]

Haha! Sorry but you had plenty of fun doing it! Now I expect you all to be in my episode threads every week. I best not be in there talking to myself. I will not be pleased.

[steve614]

I can't wait! :up:

[photoshopgrl]

I can't wait! :up:
Well I now know far too much about Season 8 after interviews/videos from Comic-Con over the weekend. :eek:

[photoshopgrl]

Oh and I take back what I said about Jared's hair. :o Saw him on NerdHQ panel and he looked amazing.

[Vendikarr]

Cristina,

If you are looking for a similar show to help pass the time until the return of Supernatural, let me suggest Teen Wolf.

It's got a great werewolf lore building, hunters and a great relationship between the two main characters, Scott and Stiles. Forget anything you know about the 80s movie, this isn't a wacky comedy.

And don't let the fact that it airs on MTV sway you. I was very surprised at how good it was. My preconceived notions about MTV almost kept me from giving it a chance.

Yes it has some teen romance, but it became less important towards the end of the first season. And even less during the second season.

It's not Supernatural good, but it is a good little show, and it only had a 12 episode first season, and is half way through it's second season.

I think you might like it.

[madscientist]

Looks like Amazon has a great deal (60% off) on Supernatural seasons 1-6 on BluRay (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005NFJAXU/ref=pe_164490_24908150_pe_vfe_dt1). Still expensive at $157 but if you want to own the series...

[photoshopgrl]

I think I'm just going to rewatch SPN with my friend :)

[photoshopgrl]

Looks like Amazon has a great deal (60% off) on Supernatural seasons 1-6 on BluRay (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005NFJAXU/ref=pe_164490_24908150_pe_vfe_dt1). Still expensive at $157 but if you want to own the series...

That's a good price. That's why I was considering it.

[robojerk]

Free shipping with Prime too..

[photoshopgrl]

Free shipping with Prime too..
I know. I have that. But I was told I should wait.

[danterner]

Cristina,

If you are looking for a similar show to help pass the time until the return of Supernatural, let me suggest Teen Wolf.

It's got a great werewolf lore building, hunters and a great relationship between the two main characters, Scott and Stiles. Forget anything you know about the 80s movie, this isn't a wacky comedy.

And don't let the fact that it airs on MTV sway you. I was very surprised at how good it was. My preconceived notions about MTV almost kept me from giving it a chance.

Yes it has some teen romance, but it became less important towards the end of the first season. And even less during the second season.

It's not Supernatural good, but it is a good little show, and it only had a 12 episode first season, and is half way through it's second season.

I think you might like it.

I gave up on Teen Wolf with about 4 episodes to go in Season 1, but I've been meaning to get back to it - I agree that it is worth checking out. From what I heard, it came into its own in Season 2, and it was recently picked up with an order of 24 episodes for Season 3.

[photoshopgrl]

I honestly have no desire to try it. And right now I have zero desire to start a new series period. I'm still in major Supernatural mode. I don't see that changing anytime soon. ;)

[Church AV Guy]

Well, you burned through the series in record time. Contact Guinness! :D You are now in the same position as the rest of us, waiting for the next season to start.

Getting out of purgatory can't be easy, especially since apparently NO ONE knows where it is.

I hope they bring back Death. He was a great character. "You're right, the pickle chips are excellent." Ya gotta laugh...:D

Now that I think about that whole exchange, their guess at his interest in food was Dean speculating after Death talked about how good the pizza was in Chicago. This show never ceases to amaze...

[crowfan]

/must not look upthread....

I dropped out of this thread once Cristina passed me. I have 5 eps left in the season. Just read a spoiler today (accidentally, on another site :grumble: ) about the end of the season. Can't wait to see how they get there.

[photoshopgrl]

Well, you burned through the series in record time. Contact Guinness! :D You are now in the same position as the rest of us, waiting for the next season to start.

Getting out of purgatory can't be easy, especially since apparently NO ONE knows where it is.

I hope they bring back Death. He was a great character. "You're right, the pickle chips are excellent." Ya gotta laugh...:D

Now that I think about that whole exchange, their guess at his interest in food was Dean speculating after Death talked about how good the pizza was in Chicago. This show never ceases to amaze...
Did you see any of the panels/interviews from Comic-Con this past weekend?

Yes, I hope they bring back Death too, he's a fantastic character!! I'm also highly advocating Chuck's return and maybe Gabriel/Trickster returning from the dead. If they can keep bringing everyone else back why not? :)

[photoshopgrl]

/must not look upthread....

I dropped out of this thread once Cristina passed me. I have 5 eps left in the season. Just read a spoiler today (accidentally, on another site :grumble:) about the end of the season. Can't wait to see how they get there.
What was the spoiler?

[crowfan]

It was something along the lines of Dean being in purgatory at season's end. Can't say I'm surprised. :)

[photoshopgrl]

Haha you didn't have to spoiler that but yeah, sorry that got spoiled for you. I found that when things got spoiled for me (aka Bobby's death earlier in the season), it didn't dampen my enjoyment (or lack thereof on this subject) or the emotional response from me one bit so you should be okay. :)

[photoshopgrl]

I'm just going to randomly bump this thread to remind you all how awesome this show is. :D
And for this:

http://i49.tinypic.com/289lxsx.jpg

[Rob Helmerichs]

That's funny. [/Sandy from Seinfeld]