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angelsix
08-15-2011, 10:10 PM
I'm looking at getting a TiVo box for use with Comcast. Formerly, On Demand was disabled for TiVo users, which was a deal breaker for me (and seems like it should have been an anti-trust violation, but I digress). Now, apparently, Comcast is no longer imposing that limitation. But, I'm worried that I'm missing something. I don't find on either the Comcast or the TiVo sites a statement that all of the Comcast/Xfinity TV services are now available to TiVo users. Of course, apparently the Comcast TV Guide wouldn't be available, because that's what the TiVo monthly service charge is for. Other than that, anybody know what (if any) benefits I'd be giving up by taking back Comcast's cable box, and getting a TiVo box instead?

P.s. I'd have posted the link to the Comcast TIVO FAQ page, except that this forum precludes people who have not already done at least 5 posts from including a URL.

angelsix
08-15-2011, 10:17 PM
I was just told that the link I would have posted is misleading, in that it referred to using the TiVo service through a Comcast cable box -- and the Comcast continues to disable On Demand for people using TiVo boxes. Grrrrr (not at TiVo, but at Comcast)
:mad:

JoeTaxpayer
08-16-2011, 06:18 PM
The on-demand is what you give up.
You gain space (Comcast boxes I think are still 160GB, TiVo up to 2TB)
You gain ability to transfer shows from one TiVo to another or to PC or iPad, etc.
You gain ability to transfer show TO the TiVo. Like home movies or your iTunes library.

angelsix
08-17-2011, 02:37 AM
Comcast boxes go up to 500mb, although getting those is very difficult. 320mb is more common.

aadam101
08-24-2011, 03:15 PM
I'm not sure why you are upset with Comcast. Comcast is under no obligation to provide OnDemand content on a Tivo box. They don't even have the technical capability unless they work with Tivo.

That being said, what you are asking for is being worked on. Comcast will begin providing Premiere's to customers and OnDemand will be available on those boxes (you should assume that Amazon, Netflix, etc will NOT be available on the boxes received from Comcast directly so you will be at a disadvantage).

This box was announced a few months ago. Just keep in mind that the last time Tivo and Comcast worked on something they announced it in 2005. We didn't see a product until 2008 and they gave up on it almost immediately. It was implemented in one test market and never expanded. Let's hope things are different this time around.

SNJpage1
08-24-2011, 04:16 PM
I have found that going with a triple play deal from Comcast includes a comcast HD box as part of the price. At the time I also needed a second Comcast HD box for another TV set. It was only about $1 more to get one of their DVR box's instead of the straight HD box. I put the straight box that came as part of the package on the second TV and have their DVR and my TivoHD so I can switch back and forth between them on the main TV.

erfisch
09-12-2011, 02:55 PM
Here's my beef and everyone is dancing around the issue. Comcast advertised "on-demand" service and if you inquire with anyone in customer service it is "included in your monthly charge". THEREFORE, we are all paying for something that we are not and can not receive.

That, my fellow frustrated Comcast/TiVo fans is the gist of the problem. Comcast should cease and desist the false advertising. Ok, they'll put some disclaimer in the ads in font size no one can read, but the way I see it they owe all of us for the past amounts we paid for a service we didn't get.

angelsix
09-13-2011, 11:30 AM
.... Comcast advertised "on-demand" service ... "included in your monthly charge". ... we paid for a service we didn't get.
Good point. What I don't understand is why Comcast seems to want us to be unhappy customers, by not making it easy for us to get full TIVO and Comcast services bundled together, for some reasonable price. Yesterday an ATT door-to-door salesman came by, telling us we now have fiber optic service available, and would also get one of ATT's much better DVR's (giving us DVR access through every other set in the house, for merely $7 / set). Didn't quite convince us to go through the hassle of a changeover, but we were much more interested than Comcast should have wanted us to be.

PrimeRisk
09-26-2011, 11:20 AM
In this thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=469329) Morac provides information and links that Comcast has committed to provide OnDemand access on the TiVo Premier series of DVRs and this is going to be rolled out to areas in waves.

I guess I'd have to say I'm even impressed that the Premier will even be able to handle the OnDemand service. Keep in mind that the OnDemand technology that Comcast provides is unique to their product, just like you can't use a Premier with Dish or DirecTV. I believe it is about the technology, not about Comcast not wanting to provide you the service.

I like the TiVo functionality so much better than the standard Comcast DVR that I wouldn't mind paying $8/month for a basic receiver to get the OnDemand until it's available on the Premier.

Sharon R.
09-26-2011, 09:36 PM
I just bought a new 3d tv, joined this forum, and spent about an hour on the phone with comcast... so my head is exploding with trying to absorb new technology, but what PrimeRisk just said is consistent with what I'm understanding. If I want to continue to be able to use the on-demand services, I need to get a comcast box. I think I can continue to use my Tivo as my main interface, with the menues etc. that I know and love, but can switch over to the comcast remote and interface if I decide to watch On-demand content. I just have two pieces of equipment, whereas if I got the HD DVR box from Comcast both functions would be combined.

My problem is I have a series 2 Tivo and I don't think it works with HD. So my decision is should I buy a new Tivo for $99 and continue to pay the Tivo annual fee, or should I pay the extra $5.99/month to Comcast and be assimilated?

PrimeRisk
09-26-2011, 09:54 PM
Hi Sharon, welcome to the forum. You are correct, your Series 2 only handles standard definition. To get a HD picture via TiVo you'd have to upgrade to a Series 3, HD, or Premiere. I think you'll find that after a little while with the Comcast DVR you'll be longing for your TiVo interface.

Sharon R.
09-26-2011, 10:43 PM
Hi Prime,

Thanks for the welcome. Yeah, I've been reading a little more, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to just buy a Premiere. It seems like a small price to pay for not only the Tivo interface, but with this new TV and the dark rainy winter ahead, I'm going to want to stream more stuff from Netflix and other web sources. I'm already missing my Season Passes to all the new shows...

jrtroo
09-27-2011, 01:25 PM
Lets be clear here.

Comcast makes its on-demand materials available online to customers through a PC, and this service is not disabled by your having a TiVo. There is just no way to access this content, at this time, through your TiVo.

Sharon R.
10-03-2011, 10:38 PM
Just a note, I will not be upgrading to a Premiere after all. Maybe it was an unreasonable expectation, but still having half a year of subscription left on the old Tivo series 2, I thought there would be some way to credit some amount of my payment toward a month or two of service on the new Tivo. After three frustrating e-mail exchanges with customer support, it's clear I'm out of luck. I'm finding this comcast box isn't too terrible after all. If TiVo isn't interested in a token credit back to someone who was willing to buy a new TiVo and even a lifetime subscription for it, I'm not so interested in forking over my money.

PrimeRisk
10-04-2011, 09:33 AM
Sharon,
Actually they're giving you a $100 credit automatically. Since you already have a subscribed TiVo, the lifetime subscription is only $399 instead of $499. I'm not sure what your subscription plan is at, but even if you are at the $19.95/month price, the $100 discount makes up for most of your remaining 6 months.

The way I look at it, Comcast charges $15.95/month to have their HD DVR. If you buy a Premiere for $99 + $399 lifetime sub, your break even point is under 3 years. If you take a monthly TiVo subscription at $19.95/month, then you're only paying $4 more per month to have the TiVo functionality; even less if you want more than 1 Premiere. For me, that's a good deal to get all of the additional TiVo functionality.

Sharon R.
10-05-2011, 09:21 AM
yeah, I see your point, financially, it's really more of a feel-good thing right now. In a few months when I'm heartily sick of Comcast I'll probably relent!

rick430
10-22-2011, 09:56 PM
will Tivo ever have a on Demand function with any cable card. hopefully soon

PrimeRisk
10-23-2011, 07:26 PM
will Tivo ever have a on Demand function with any cable card. hopefully soon

Comcast has committed to deliver On Demand to its TiVo Premiere customers.

Check out this article for more info:

http://news.cnet.com/tivo-to-add-comcast-video-on-demand-support/8301-17938_105-20061069-1.html

TiredRetired
11-21-2011, 09:47 AM
Comcast Tivo Premiere Ad (http://www.tivo.com/products/source/cable/tivo-comcast/index.html)

Kham007
11-22-2011, 11:08 PM
I just bought the TiVo 2 DVR at a garage sale
And was wondering if I need Tivo service to
connect to my Comcast cable and record programs?

Als, do I need a TiVo remote control to operate the
TiVo DVR?

Thanks

MagiMike
11-23-2011, 05:09 PM
I just bought the TiVo 2 DVR at a garage sale
And was wondering if I need Tivo service to
connect to my Comcast cable and record programs?

Als, do I need a TiVo remote control to operate the
TiVo DVR?

Thanks

Yes to both of your questions Kham007

1080p guy
12-07-2011, 10:10 AM
I could care less about On Demand (I have a much higher quality (my Premiere) tuner/DVR & a WD terabyte extender) I don't need it. I am a boxing fan , so the only way to see the top fights these days is through PPV. My Premiere/Comcast on screen guide lists PPV channels at various places on the guide but when selected the dreaded "searching for signal on this cable channel" message appears & will remain indefinitely unless the channel is changed. Any hope that I can receive PPV from Comcast? Has anyone explored this ?

blackngold75
12-12-2011, 07:47 PM
Pretty sure you can order and watch pay-per-view on the Tivo. But, you can't order through the remote - you probably have to call in to order.

Lrembrey
12-13-2011, 12:29 PM
Sharon,
Actually they're giving you a $100 credit automatically. Since you already have a subscribed TiVo, the lifetime subscription is only $399 instead of $499. I'm not sure what your subscription plan is at, but even if you are at the $19.95/month price, the $100 discount makes up for most of your remaining 6 months.

The way I look at it, Comcast charges $15.95/month to have their HD DVR. If you buy a Premiere for $99 + $399 lifetime sub, your break even point is under 3 years. If you take a monthly TiVo subscription at $19.95/month, then you're only paying $4 more per month to have the TiVo functionality; even less if you want more than 1 Premiere. For me, that's a good deal to get all of the additional TiVo functionality.

FYI - Comcast will also hit you with a $6.00/month Cable card fee (Actually 8.50/month but they give you a $2.50/month credit for customer owned equipment.) Maybe that is waived for the 1st card? My comcast bill has Comcast DVR and Card fee(for our premier in another room). Is a 1st cable card free?

PrimeRisk
12-13-2011, 12:43 PM
FYI - Comcast will also hit you with a $6.00/month Cable card fee (Actually 8.50/month but they give you a $2.50/month credit for customer owned equipment.) Maybe that is waived for the 1st card? My comcast bill has Comcast DVR and Card fee(for our premier in another room). Is a 1st cable card free?

There appears to be variation around this. My first bill from Comcast did NOT match what I was promised at all. I got a horror bill that was well over $200. After an hour or so on the phone with them we got it back to what I was promised on the phone.

Comcast is only charging me $1.50/month for Card #2 and #3 (#1 is included) and I'm getting the $2.50/month credit...so in the long run it's only costing $.50/month + $10/Month for HD which is included in your first HD receiver fee (total $10.50) to have the TiVos and I'd be paying $47.85/month ($15.95 x 3) if I used their sorry excuses for HD DVRs. I'm saving over $40/month when considering the taxes for having TiVos. Pretty good payback rate IMHO.

Lrembrey
12-14-2011, 02:24 PM
There appears to be variation around this. My first bill from Comcast did NOT match what I was promised at all. I got a horror bill that was well over $200. After an hour or so on the phone with them we got it back to what I was promised on the phone.

Comcast is only charging me $1.50/month for Card #2 and #3 (#1 is included) and I'm getting the $2.50/month credit...so in the long run it's only costing $.50/month + $10/Month for HD which is included in your first HD receiver fee (total $10.50) to have the TiVos and I'd be paying $47.85/month ($15.95 x 3) if I used their sorry excuses for HD DVRs. I'm saving over $40/month when considering the taxes for having TiVos. Pretty good payback rate IMHO.

I am hearing tha Comcast is very inconsistent on how they charge/bill... My local seems to hit for the $6 "outlet" fee. This is how my bill looks now with a Comcast DVR, Tivo premier and 2 DTA boxes.
Hd/dvr Service(includes HD Technology Fee) $9.95This to me looks like thier $15.95charge - $6.00 "free device" included in triple play package.

Digital Additional Outlet Service (includes Equipment) $8.00
(elswhere on bill)->Customer-owned Equipment Adjustment -$2.50 So there is a $6.00 outlet fee for cable card.

Then I have 2 lines with $0.00 for my DTA's

So if I look at this right I could cancel my HD DVR which saves me $9.95, get a free cable card to put into another Tivo Premier? So a second premier in essence is only $5.00 more than I pay now? (14.95/month sub for second unit from Tivo)

PrimeRisk
12-14-2011, 03:43 PM
I am hearing tha Comcast is very inconsistent on how they charge/bill... My local seems to hit for the $6 "outlet" fee. This is how my bill looks now with a Comcast DVR, Tivo premier and 2 DTA boxes.
Hd/dvr Service(includes HD Technology Fee) $9.95This to me looks like thier $15.95charge - $6.00 "free device" included in triple play package.

Digital Additional Outlet Service (includes Equipment) $8.00
(elswhere on bill)->Customer-owned Equipment Adjustment -$2.50 So there is a $6.00 outlet fee for cable card.

Then I have 2 lines with $0.00 for my DTA's

So if I look at this right I could cancel my HD DVR which saves me $9.95, get a free cable card to put into another Tivo Premier? So a second premier in essence is only $5.00 more than I pay now? (14.95/month sub for second unit from Tivo)


I'd be challenging them about the $8 for the additional outlet "with equipment"...that's what they charge to put their HD cable box on a set. You own your equipment and shouldn't have to pay that. Sometimes it just takes getting to the right person that understands how to setup your account correctly.

Silvester
01-25-2012, 11:17 AM
Is anybody able to access Comcast "on-demand" with a TiVo Premiere?

aadam101
01-27-2012, 02:20 AM
Is anybody able to access Comcast "on-demand" with a TiVo Premiere?

No. This is not yet an available option. This forum is for a dead product that is no longer available. It was only made available in one test market. It is a Motorola box with Tivo software running on it. That box can access OnDemand.

Tivo and Comcast have made an announcement several months back that they would be offering Premieres.

To put things in perspective. Tivo and Comcast made their first deal in 2005. We didn't see a product until 2008. They only released the product in one market and in 2011 they killed it off completely. Part of me expects them to call my mom and ask for it back. There can't be more than a few thousand units out there. I'd love to see actual sales figures. It was a total failure.

TooMuchTime
01-30-2012, 11:17 PM
Comcast makes its on-demand materials available online to customers through a PC, and this service is not disabled by your having a TiVo. There is just no way to access this content, at this time, through your TiVo.

This is why I have a computer attached to my TV as well as my TiVo. I just switch to the computer, go to Comcast, and view any On Demand contect I wish. Much easier (and less costly) than having both a Comcast DVR and a TiVo.

Silvester
01-31-2012, 08:36 AM
This is why I have a computer attached to my TV as well as my TiVo. I just switch to the computer, go to Comcast, and view any On Demand contect I wish. Much easier (and less costly) than having both a Comcast DVR and a TiVo.

I would like to do that. How do you access the Comcast on-demand channels on your computer? Do you have a TV tuner card in it? If so what brand?

aadam101
02-01-2012, 12:13 PM
I would like to do that. How do you access the Comcast on-demand channels on your computer? Do you have a TV tuner card in it? If so what brand?

It is all available when you login at Comcast.com. There is also an iPad/iPhone app. I'm not sure if the apps include the full library or not.

ZobVA
02-21-2012, 10:00 AM
Yes to both of your questions Kham007

That's not entirely accurate. A Series 2 TiVo box can be used in VCR mode without a subscription. It will not have the TV Guides or searchable programming functions of course, but it can still be set to manually set up recordings by time and date.

aadam101
02-21-2012, 09:33 PM
That's not entirely accurate. A Series 2 TiVo box can be used in VCR mode without a subscription. It will not have the TV Guides or searchable programming functions of course, but it can still be set to manually set up recordings by time and date.

I don't believe any Series 2 units can do this except the ones with Tivo Basic.

Some very old Series 1 units can do this.

ajwees41
03-05-2012, 11:46 PM
I was just told that the link I would have posted is misleading, in that it referred to using the TiVo service through a Comcast cable box -- and the Comcast continues to disable On Demand for people using TiVo boxes. Grrrrr (not at TiVo, but at Comcast)
:mad:

tivo's don't have the necessary 2way hardware, but Comcast and Cox my cable provider are going to use something called ip back channel for it.

replaytv
03-06-2012, 01:27 AM
I don't believe any Series 2 units can do this (record without a subscription) except the ones with Tivo Basic.

Some very old Series 1 units can do this.

All the Series 1 and SEries 2 Tivos all can do it, as long as the account shows 'in good standing' on the system info page. (i.e. the box was disconnected from the box before the service was discontinued ) But 'yes', buy a Tivo Pioneer or Toshiba TiVo for $50 on ebay and get Tivo Basic instead. Really worth the price over a VCR like Tivo. But I myself can't even stand using a Tivo basic box. I just miss too much the full lifetime features of season pass, wish list, and the search option. I do like the DVD burner player in the full lifetime DVD recorder Tivos. Maybe I will buy another one.

But Tivo sees using a TiVo box like this in violation of the user agreement.

Oh, and the clock with be off too with a Tivo without a sub, so you have to allow for that in all recordings. Why bother with it? Go ahead and get a lifetime on eBay.

JulienPDX
03-07-2012, 06:02 PM
i have filed an fcc complaint against comcast for this practice and name the following reasons for doing so

1) M-Cards are capable of upstream/downstream communication; therefore there is no technological reason for this to be "blocked;" comcast is simply not enabling this because no one has called them out on it
2) ONDemand is a "free service"that is supposed to be available to all subscribers of digital cable. Advertising in my market does not include any provisos
3) ONDEMAND is available through Comcast's website and the XFINITY MOBILE app for Android and iOS BUT STILL REQUIRES that you have a "qualifying cable box" on your account to grant you access. This is further proof that Comast is INTENTIONALLY blocking access to ONDEMAND if you don't use their hardware.
4) Comcast is violating the "Spirit of the law" philosophy by intentionally disabling certain features (including those stupid copy flags that don't seem to exist on their own boxes) on CableCard accounts by creating unfair and unnecessary competition between their hardware and third-party hardware; which they are required to provide equal access.

Further, if they are so g******d worried that allowing third party hardware on their network will "hurt" their business; then maybe its time they improve what they currently offer!

ajwees41
03-07-2012, 07:00 PM
i have filed an fcc complaint against comcast for this practice and name the following reasons for doing so

1) M-Cards are capable of upstream/downstream communication; therefore there is no technological reason for this to be "blocked;" comcast is simply not enabling this because no one has called them out on it
2) ONDemand is a "free service"that is supposed to be available to all subscribers of digital cable. Advertising in my market does not include any provisos
3) ONDEMAND is available through Comcast's website and the XFINITY MOBILE app for Android and iOS BUT STILL REQUIRES that you have a "qualifying cable box" on your account to grant you access. This is further proof that Comast is INTENTIONALLY blocking access to ONDEMAND if you don't use their hardware.
4) Comcast is violating the "Spirit of the law" philosophy by intentionally disabling certain features (including those stupid copy flags that don't seem to exist on their own boxes) on CableCard accounts by creating unfair and unnecessary competition between their hardware and third-party hardware; which they are required to provide equal access.

Further, if they are so g******d worried that allowing third party hardware on their network will "hurt" their business; then maybe its time they improve what they currently offer!


the hardware also has to be 2way

aadam101
03-10-2012, 08:03 PM
3) ONDEMAND is available through Comcast's website and the XFINITY MOBILE app for Android and iOS BUT STILL REQUIRES that you have a "qualifying cable box" on your account to grant you access. This is further proof that Comast is INTENTIONALLY blocking access to ONDEMAND if you don't use their hardware.


I didn't realize this. What does the box have to do with any of it? Streaming from an app doesn't involve your box in any way does it?

JulienPDX
03-12-2012, 01:50 PM
I have tried multiple times to use ONDemand via the new iOS app for iPad and on an Android tablet. You are asked to log in with your Comcast.net credentials. I do that and even though I subscribe to at least one digital package and one premium; the app CHECKS to see if I have a cable box. Since I don't, it doesn't allow me access. Further, I can't access the independent HBO2Go app either because Comcast doesn't "validate" my subscription to them.

aadam101
03-17-2012, 12:12 AM
I have tried multiple times to use ONDemand via the new iOS app for iPad and on an Android tablet. You are asked to log in with your Comcast.net credentials. I do that and even though I subscribe to at least one digital package and one premium; the app CHECKS to see if I have a cable box. Since I don't, it doesn't allow me access. Further, I can't access the independent HBO2Go app either because Comcast doesn't "validate" my subscription to them.

I would post this over in the main Tivo forum and see if anyone has any advice. Nobody reads this forum but me. I am one of the few people on this forum that has actually seen a Comcast/Motorola/Tivo.

LisaJaco
03-22-2012, 07:11 PM
I called Comcast earlier this month to inquire about OnDemand for TiVo, and they told me the function would be available in April. Is this true or were they BSing me?

aadam101
03-22-2012, 10:02 PM
I called Comcast earlier this month to inquire about OnDemand for TiVo, and they told me the function would be available in April. Is this true or were they BSing me?

It's going to be available in San Francisco soon. Not sure about April. No idea if/when they will ever roll it out nationwide.

greyrock
03-24-2012, 01:43 PM
All the Series 1 and SEries 2 Tivos all can do it, as long as the account shows 'in good standing' on the system info page. (i.e. the box was disconnected from the box before the service was discontinued ) But 'yes', buy a Tivo Pioneer or Toshiba TiVo for $50 on ebay and get Tivo Basic instead. Really worth the price over a VCR like Tivo. But I myself can't even stand using a Tivo basic box. I just miss too much the full lifetime features of season pass, wish list, and the search option. I do like the DVD burner player in the full lifetime DVD recorder Tivos. Maybe I will buy another one.

But Tivo sees using a TiVo box like this in violation of the user agreement.

Oh, and the clock with be off too with a Tivo without a sub, so you have to allow for that in all recordings. Why bother with it? Go ahead and get a lifetime on eBay.

My series one has long been off contract but to set the clock, I just plug the phone line in and select test connection, it updates the clock. I use it as a repeating schedule manual recording DVR.

emkorial
04-05-2012, 08:56 PM
I called Comcast earlier this month to inquire about OnDemand for TiVo, and they told me the function would be available in April. Is this true or were they BSing me?

They made an announcement saying it's coming, but I am not holding my breath. While I would love to be wrong, I'm betting it gets rolled out in the SF market and then nowhere else until they kill it in a few years.

There's no reason to have a "test" market. Comcast doesn't have to do anything their equipment is not already doing to enable it. They could so an instant nationwide roll out tomorrow if they wanted too.

"test market" is code for "We're just doing this to get the FCC off our back and we're not putting one iota of effort beyond the minimum we need to". I will honestly be shocked if this ever see's the light of day outside SF.

Bighouse
04-10-2012, 11:57 PM
My series3 is starting to act up and crashing sometimes twice a week. I swear I think TiVo has the best interface but I also feel they build their devices to ultimately fail. They really should rename theirs"lifetime" service to "five to ten years service max". I'm reading this thread because, though I've been a loyal TiVo customer for many years and have owned a 1, 2 and 3 I am now seriously considering getting off the "TiVo lifetime" bandwagon and going with a comcast dvr. I am going into my local cable store tomorrow to look at the offerings.
It makes me kind of sad to have to walk away from TiVo...but I don't like the limited lifetime of their products.

jrtroo
04-11-2012, 12:40 PM
Hard drives always, eventually fail, it is just a matter of time. Tivo buys hard disks, they don't make them.

Just replace it now before it fails completely, and only for the cost of the drive.

TiredRetired
04-15-2012, 05:11 PM
They made an announcement saying it's coming, but I am not holding my breath. While I would love to be wrong, I'm betting it gets rolled out in the SF market and then nowhere else until they kill it in a few years.

There's no reason to have a "test" market. Comcast doesn't have to do anything their equipment is not already doing to enable it. They could so an instant nationwide roll out tomorrow if they wanted too.

"test market" is code for "We're just doing this to get the FCC off our back and we're not putting one iota of effort beyond the minimum we need to". I will honestly be shocked if this ever see's the light of day outside SF.

I was told last week by the New England Regional Rep that it will be available here in Vermont in two months. Not sure where you are located but we are usually the last ones to get anything new from Comcast.

seattlewendell
04-17-2012, 01:34 AM
My series3 is starting to act up and crashing sometimes twice a week. I swear I think TiVo has the best interface but I also feel they build their devices to ultimately fail. They really should rename theirs"lifetime" service to "five to ten years service max". I'm reading this thread because, though I've been a loyal TiVo customer for many years and have owned a 1, 2 and 3 I am now seriously considering getting off the "TiVo lifetime" bandwagon and going with a comcast dvr. I am going into my local cable store tomorrow to look at the offerings.
It makes me kind of sad to have to walk away from TiVo...but I don't like the limited lifetime of their products.

5-10 years to average life of a hard drive. That has nothing to do with TiVo. Don't be unrealistic. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to consider other options. This rather ridiculous reason is not one of them.

Arcady
04-17-2012, 03:57 AM
Buy a new hard drive and put it in the TiVo. The comcast garbage will have a hard drive failure just as fast, and it will eat your brain as it fails.

bobster954
04-25-2012, 02:26 PM
comcast told me and offered me a free regular box as part of the normal package, even with the tivo.
this free box is not a dvr but IS INCLUDED in your monthly fee...it can get ondemand.

However...never got around to figuring out where to plug it in (a/b switch or something?)
I imagine a second outlet, which is supposed to be free, should work.
I only have one line in the house, so I guess I would have to split it though. (or pay big fee for them to do so and make a second outlet.)

jrtroo
04-26-2012, 02:52 PM
Comcast packages either provide a free box or digital outlet, but not both. So, if you were to return the box you should not have to pay for the cablecard/digital outlet fees (though many times they do this with a credit).

If you want to use both, you just need to split the cable and put one to the tivo and the other to the comcast thing. Both can connect to the tv and work independently.

By outlet, you mean power? I hope you have a ups that you use with some protections against line disruptions and don't just plug into the wall.

Is that what you are looking for?

Silvester
06-09-2012, 12:11 PM
:D Finally able to watch any of the Comcast OnDemand via Xfinity TV app on the Apple iPhone 4 or iPad Gen 3 both on IOS 5.1.1. Works good on each device independently. Easy to search, pause and even filter out just FREE stuff. Only issue is with the Apple TV interface products that I tried. First the HDMI iPad connector and the output was REAL BAD. Very blurry. Did not show xfinity video with the iPhone 4 but Youtube videos displayed OK. Next I got an Apple TV (GEN 3) to get the full 1080 experience and it had some connection issues and kept stopping. Good news thought for the Android. Works GREAT from an ASUS T300 Android IOS 4.0.3 running the new Xfinity TV PLAYER app (avail for Android ONLY) and connected to a TV via a Micro HDMI cable. Perfect audio - Very clear with full 1080p. As of right now I will not upgrade my lifetime Series 3 HD's to Premiere XL models since I will be able to get what I want from the Android tablet. Plan to buy the new ASUS Transformer Infinty TF700 in July/August just for this interface option.
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/ :up: