TiVo iPad app is out!

[AbMagFab]

My iPad app was working flawlessly for several weeks after turning off Bluetooth on the iPad. Today, it can't find any TiVos on my network. I updated the app, and it finds my Series 4 and tells me it's not a Series 4.

Any fix for THAT?

I have the same problem! Finds my premieres, but says they aren't premiers.

Any advice?:confused:

[TeddS]

I have the same problem! Finds my premieres, but says they aren't premiers.

Any advice?:confused:

Just tried it here and same thing - does not find my premiere box. Looks like the app writers screwed it up.

[morac]

I'm not seeing an update, the latest version I see is 1.1 which works fine for me.

[DaveWhittle]

No problem on this end. Maybe they pulled the update?

[StarmanTHX]

A reboot fixed the iPad app. No idea why, but there it is. Maybe now my TiVo will start recording my web shows again.

[TeddS]

I rebooted, but the app still thinks I don't have a premiere. Maybe I need to delete the app and reinstall?

[Fofer]

1.2 is now out with some welcome improvements and fixes:

http://www.fofer.com/sharedimages//iTunes-20110428-100428.jpg

[innocentfreak]

I like the FSI being in the app.

I still wish they would implement the ability to push or pull shows from TiVo to another or the PC from the App. This way you could transfer a show while watching something else rather than having to exit the show just to queue the transfer.

[Fofer]

I like the FSI being in the app.


Me too.

Especially because otherwise it's only available in the HD UI, which I have turned off because it's so freakin' slow (comparatively speaking) and because it's so annoyingly incomplete. Such an eyesore. The ONLY reason I would toggle it on from time to time is the FSI... and now I don't have to.

[TBoyd]

First, I LOVE the new Tivo iPad app!!

The new 1.2 looks good but I noticed a problem that didn’t occur with the previous version when I was playing a program retrieved to the S4 from Tivo Desktop.

The TOP section of the iPad display shows the current LIVE TV details while the BOTTOM display shows cast, etc from the TivoDtop program. I can remedy this by pressing PAUSE once, and the details of the recorded show will sync up again. -- I should note that this problem doesn’t happen all the time.

Besides noting this here how should I report this to Tivo?

Thanks,
Tim

[morac]

Besides noting this here how should I report this to Tivo?


I believe there is a support link inside the app itself. You could also try TiVo's contact page (http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1279/related/1). E-mail would probably work best since it really doesn't require a response.

[TBoyd]

Thanks, Morac.

I just emailed the support team from the contact page. I thought there may be another point of contact, but that works.

T

[Fofer]

When dragging the slider in the timeline (watching a recorded show) -- I'd have really liked for it to show you the time, as you drag. Not just when you finish dragging. Seems like a very basic UI expectation.

[richsadams]

When dragging the slider in the timeline (watching a recorded show) -- I'd have really liked for it to show you the time, as you drag. Not just when you finish dragging. Seems like a very basic UI expectation.That would indeed be a terrific feature. BIG +1!

[danjw1]

How well does this work with multiple Tivos? Is there anyway to switch between the Tivos you have on the network? Also, has anyone tried to use this over a VPN and if so, how well does that work?

[Fofer]

How well does this work with multiple Tivos?
Pretty well, assuming they are all Premieres.

Is there anyway to switch between the Tivos you have on the network?

Yes, there's a little pulldown menu to switch.

Also, has anyone tried to use this over a VPN and if so, how well does that work?
Yes, folks have tried all sorts of things, here's an informative post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8460931#post8460931) (in this same thread) with links that may shed some light for you. Also, this. (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8463886#post8463886)

[danjw1]

I'm not sure that would work since from what I've read Rendezvous/Bonjour doesn't propagate over VPN, so auto-discovery wouldn't work.

I did find a post on a forum stating that Yazsoft Sharetool (http://yazsoft.com/products/sharetool/) let's you set up Bonjour networking over the Internet, but if that requires installing software on the client computer it wouldn't work with the iPad. The same thing would probably apply to using something like Network beacon (http://www.chaoticsoftware.com/ProductPages/NetworkBeacon.html).


Basically what you need to have happen is have the network broadcast traffic to TCP ports 5353 and 5354 travel across the VPN which is something network broadcasts are designed not to do.

It sounds like someone got it partially working (http://www.joostteam.com/2010/12/11/vpn-activator-with-bonjour-integration-update/), but it's still buggy.

It's definitely not something that's trivial to do as described by this article on setting it up (http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=20090225001154457).

If you look at this page (http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1629), it says Bonjour uses port 5353 as UDP and 5354 as TCP. It also shows 5297 as TCP and 5298 as TCP/UDP.

[tzroberts]

Anyone know if it is possible to control Pandora through the TiVo iPad app?

[innocentfreak]

Anyone know if it is possible to control Pandora through the TiVo iPad app?

Haven't tried but you might be able to if you use the onscreen remote option.

[andyf]

New update on the app store today.

Allows limited functionality for TiVoHD & S3.
Works on iPhone.

That's all I've seen in my 5 minutes of using it.

[windracer]

Allows limited functionality for TiVoHD & S3.
Works on iPhone.
Cool ... looking forward to trying this out tonight.

[innocentfreak]

According to the setup, it allows Guide access, Schedule Recordings, Remote control, and Search.

What it doesn't allow is Start Playback on TV, Info on Current Show, My shows, and Season Pass Manager and To Do list.

[Johnwashere]

Got it! At work now though. I see it does allow me to view my old HD now :up: Since the iphone version is out, hopefully the android one comes out soon too.

[innocentfreak]

Here is the TiVo page on it with comparison of features per model and it mentions series 1 and 2 though it is more just search through the website.

http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/product-features/stay-connected/iphone/index.html

[morac]

New update on the app store today.

Allows limited functionality for TiVoHD & S3.
Works on iPhone.

That's all I've seen in my 5 minutes of using it.

I've already run into an issue in the few minutes I tested this with my S3. The app apparently killed the S3's auto discovery notification. This made the S3 not only disappear from the app, but from the My Shows list on my Premiere. I had to restart the S3 to get it back.

[Fofer]

Very impressed that TiVo followed through with this. I did upgrade to a Premiere late last year (primarily due to the intro of the iPad app) but it is nice to see the S3/HD owners getting some of this love, too.

And the (now universal) app works rather nicely on my iPhone. It's missing some UI that the iPad had (like the timelime scrubber) but that's understandable. I can still check my NP list and tap a show to "watch now" or delete... and I can manage my SP's too. I'll be more likely to use the iPhone over my iPad for TiVo remote control, I think...

Good work, TiVo! Now, fix some of your other long-standing bugs (and finish the incomplete HD UI) and then I'll be really impressed. :D :up:

[richsadams]

Good work, TiVo! Now, fix some of your other long-standing bugs (and finish the incomplete HD UI) and then I'll be really impressed. :D :up:Here, here! :up:

[Riverdome]

Spent a few minutes of my lunch break trying out the app on my S3 and was a little disappointed. Love the access to guide and the interface itself seems very easy to use. Over the ~20 minutes I was home it crashed 3 times and the one attempt to record something airing tonight failed.

I also tried to find my S2 and the app advised it wasn't supported. Not a biggie but I thought there was limited support for S1 and S2 units?

I'll take more time tonight to reboot everything, Tivo, iPad, router, ... but my first experience was pretty buggy.

[shady]

I'm disappointed that I can't manage my todo and now playing list when I'm connected remotely. The information is available at TiVo.com, and it would be very nice to trim unwanted programs while on vacation.

I see the iPad as being great for couch use, but the iPhone, for me, is most likely to be used away from home

[danjw1]

I'm disappointed that I can't manage my todo and now playing list when I'm connected remotely. The information is available at TiVo.com, and it would be very nice to trim unwanted programs while on vacation.

I see the iPad as being great for couch use, but the iPhone, for me, is most likely to be used away from home

I think the key to getting this to work is being able have a VPN to the home network and getting Bonjour broadcasts to be broadcast on the VPN. If you have a home router that supports a VPN, you may be able to get that working.

[weldon]

I also tried to find my S2 and the app advised it wasn't supported. Not a biggie but I thought there was limited support for S1 and S2 units?
No. There was a comment in their marketing about how S1/S2 owners could use the "guest" features, but it doesn't interact with the S2 TiVo in this case.

[jfh3]

I've lost two Premieres that the ap previously saw and I don't see my Series 3. Rebooted all the Tivo's and router. The new version of the ap finds two Premieres, but that's it.

Any ideas how I get the ap to see the missing Premieres and the S3? All the Tivo's see each other.

[DoubleDave]

First off, TiVo is back in my graces after I found out their iPad app supports the S3 unit. I'm sure there was no technical reasons but only marketing why the S3 wasn't supported day one.

I know it's free and I finally have my app but I will note:

First few network scans it didn't find either S2 or S3 TiVos.
Then it found both, I logon to my S3 unit.
Then it crashed.
Another few scans when it didn't find any TiVos.
Then it only saw only the S3 and I got back on.

Note: My IP scanner iPad app ALWAYS sees both S2 and S3 TiVos every time.

Many of the app options are for the Premiere only. I have yet to see a compelling reason to upgrade to the Premiere. Maybe when I get a 1080p TV. Also the app also has a remote feature. I doubt I'll ever use it after the first time but it is there.

Browsing for shows to record is nicer than with the remote or the tivo.com website. I'm happy to have this free app!

[richsadams]

I've lost two Premieres that the ap previously saw and I don't see my Series 3. Rebooted all the Tivo's and router. The new version of the ap finds two Premieres, but that's it.

Any ideas how I get the ap to see the missing Premieres and the S3? All the Tivo's see each other.Sometimes when the app loses our TiVo's I've had to reboot everything, our TiVo's, router/modem, etc. Other times just closing and opening the app seems to do it.

[rainwater]

I'm sure there was no technical reasons but only marketing why the S3 wasn't supported day one.


Clearly there are technical reasons. This is why the S3 doesn't support all the features. My guess is they had a feature set to implement for the premiere and once they completed it, they worked on support for the S3. It seems reasonable to me.

[b_scott]

got the iphone app. It recognizes my Premiere XL fine, but it shows my Premiere regular as a THD/Series 3 and won't let me add it normally. Anyone else have this issue?

[seattlewendell]

I have to say that I am really impressed with the App. If may be the best thing Tivo has done in a really long time. It reminds be of the early days when I would come home to a new update and the DVR would just be "better". Tivo seemed to anticipate exactly what "next" should be and would just roll it out.
Frequent small changes that just made the DVR better all the time. I thought Tivo had forgotten how to do this.
I wonder who they outsourced the App development to...

[wmcbrine]

Clearly there are technical reasons. This is why the S3 doesn't support all the features.The technical reason is that the S3 doesn't have the new iPad port 1413 interface. But there's no technical reason for that limitation. Of course that's just one of many new features on the Premiere that have been held back from the S3 for no technical reason.

(Let me anticipate a hypothetical response from TiVo, though of course they never will respond: The technical reason is that the S3 and Premiere code bases have diverged too far to port the new features back, given the resources available. This is similar to excuses they've made in the past. But all that would mean, would be that their code management is incompetent.)

[SugarBowl]

got the iphone app. It recognizes my Premiere XL fine, but it shows my Premiere regular as a THD/Series 3 and won't let me add it normally. Anyone else have this issue?

I have the same 2 machines (an XL and a regular) and it has worked fine. The only problem i have seen is after using the search, i cannot get the keyboard to go off the screen.

[Test]

I have the same 2 machines (an XL and a regular) and it has worked fine. The only problem i have seen is after using the search, i cannot get the keyboard to go off the screen.

Even using the button in the bottom right of the keyboard?

[b_scott]

I have the same 2 machines (an XL and a regular) and it has worked fine. The only problem i have seen is after using the search, i cannot get the keyboard to go off the screen.

only thing I can figure is the regular was in a b*ta in the past (NTTAAOB), so maybe that screwed it up.

[Fofer]

(NTTAAOB)

What does this acronym mean?

Not That That's Anything... ??? ??? ???

[SugarBowl]

Even using the button in the bottom right of the keyboard?

There is no hide keyboard button on the iphone app.

[innocentfreak]

What does this acronym mean?

Not That That's Anything... ??? ??? ???

Not That There Are Any Other Betas.

[aadam101]

Using the app makes my Tivo lose it's network connection. It still shows connected to the router but if I force a connection I get a "gateway not found" error. I can still see my other TiVo but when I try to browse the shows it says the TiVo doesn't have any shows.

Everything works just fine as long until I run the app.

Both my units are Premieres and this just started happening with the last update.

[danjw1]

Using the app makes my Tivo lose it's network connection. It still shows connected to the router but if I force a connection I get a "gateway not found" error. I can still see my other TiVo but when I try to browse the shows it says the TiVo doesn't have any shows.

Everything works just fine as long until I run the app.

Both my units are Premieres and this just started happening with the last update.

If there is anything in the app that lets you file a bug report, you should do that. If not, you might want to consider contacting Tivo support and letting them know about it.

[Doh]

This article (http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/somerville/2011/07/somerville_rcn_customers_to_ge.html)suggests that RCN customers will be able to watch on demand and some other shows through the tivo app.

If that's really coming it would be great to have it for those of us with non-RCM premieres too.

[Fofer]

That's interesting. Based on what we know about the TiVo Premiere hardware, iOS, and the requirements of TV streaming (both legally and technically...) I have a hard time believing it's streaming these shows from the TiVo hardware itself.

If I were a betting man, I'd say it's streaming the "same show" (but not your own recording of it) from RCN's own servers.

I'd certainly appreciate it either way -- in fact, I'd probably prefer to be able to stream any of "my" recordings from elsewhere, if only because my cable company's upstream bandwidth is going to be better than my own, and that would be a far easier setup, too.

Very interesting, indeed.

[LoREvanescence]

I downloaded it yesterday. Loving it so far, the guide and remote is awesome.

However, i'm stuck in limited functionality. it thinks my premiere is a s3. I have tried rebooting my premiere and unplugging the router for 30 seconds with no luck.

Anyone get stuck in this situation and was able to fix it. I'm not in away mode since I have the working remote. hmm

[Doh]

I downloaded it yesterday. Loving it so far, the guide and remote is awesome.

However, i'm stuck in limited functionality. it thinks my premiere is a s3. I have tried rebooting my premiere and unplugging the router for 30 seconds with no luck.

Anyone get stuck in this situation and was able to fix it. I'm not in away mode since I have the working remote. hmm

I had that problem for a little while but I played around with the app and it rebooted itself, had me log in my MAK again, and was ok, so maybe you should try rebooting the app instead of the tivo?

[DaveWhittle]

I had that problem for a little while but I played around with the app and it rebooted itself, had me log in my MAK again, and was ok, so maybe you should try rebooting the app instead of the tivo?

Same thing here... Rebooting the iPad did the trick.

[LoREvanescence]

I had that problem for a little while but I played around with the app and it rebooted itself, had me log in my MAK again, and was ok, so maybe you should try rebooting the app instead of the tivo?


I have double clicked home to bring up the multitasking bar, then closed the app from there several times already with no luck.

One time though, I was able to get season passes and view the to do list. But the npl and info still said I did not have a premiere. Now the season passes and to do list say I don't have a premiere.

This morning the app said it lost connection with the tivo, and then when I hit reconnect it tells me it can't find my tivo. Rebooted the app and it still can't find the tivo.:(

Edit: I figured out what was wrong.

So, I just rebooted the router since I could not connect to my tivo, that did the trick. However, something new happened this time when it found my permiere. It asked me for my MAK which it never did before. Before it would just immediately go to the guide. And if I went to settings where it says Local MAK it only had a sign out option. It had never asked me to input my MAK which I guess would be the problem.

[aadam101]

If I were a betting man, I'd say it's streaming the "same show" (but not your own recording of it) from RCN's own servers.


Would that be legal? If I record something and it's pre-empted, then the title of my show will be one thing but the content will be another. If I were to go back and watch it, RCN would provide me with the show.

That's not necessarily a bad thing but that's not a DVR.

[Fofer]

Would that be legal? If I record something and it's pre-empted, then the title of my show will be one thing but the content will be another. If I were to go back and watch it, RCN would provide me with the show.

That's not necessarily a bad thing but that's not a DVR.

Comcast's Xfinity app offers video on-demand, as does HBO GO, and Time Warner's app offers live video.... So who knows. The rules are being pushed and changed all the time. All I do know is, the Premiere software/OS (and maybe even hardware) would have to change significantly for it to be able to serve as a server for streaming content to an iOS device. Does the RCN Premiere have what it takes to push that out? and will it work over 3G and external WiFi, or would it be limited to the RCN customers' homes? I guess we'll learn more soon. I'd love to see this feature hit all Premieres.

[danjw1]

Comcast's Xfinity app offers video on-demand, as does HBO GO, and Time Warner's app offers live video.... So who knows. The rules are being pushed and changed all the time. All I do know is, the Premiere software/OS (and maybe even hardware) would have to change significantly for it to be able to serve as a server for streaming content to an iOS device. Does the RCN Premiere have what it takes to push that out? and will it work over 3G and external WiFi, or would it be limited to the RCN customers' homes? I guess we'll learn more soon. I'd love to see this feature hit all Premieres.

There codec would have to be ported to Objective-C and it would need to be able to decode the stream, if it is being done in a secure manner. Porting can take considerable effort, depending on what language the original code is in.

[LoREvanescence]

There codec would have to be ported to Objective-C and it would need to be able to decode the stream, if it is being done in a secure manner. Porting can take considerable effort, depending on what language the original code is in.

Actually, that's not entirely true. There is another means of creating an iOS App that could doe this and several news papers and local news stations have taken advantage of it.

It is now possible to create flash / flex apps and compile them into an ipa (iOS App) format with CS 5 and 5.5.

So as long as you can create a flash app that will play or stream your video, you can compile it for iOS and sell it in the app store provided you are a registered paid apple developer.

That would cut back a lot of time in porting and you can build your security into your flash / flex app.

[Fofer]

This article (http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/somerville/2011/07/somerville_rcn_customers_to_ge.html)suggests that RCN customers will be able to watch on demand and some other shows through the tivo app.

If that's really coming it would be great to have it for those of us with non-RCM premieres too.

I'm reading the article again, and you know what? I think the author simply got it wrong and is reporting incredibly misleading information. We'd have heard more about this streaming capability by now (even if it is just restricted to RCN Somerville customers.) That being said, I'll bet it's the same app we have, and they're just seeing "on demand" choices listed in the guide, and the names of their shows in their Now Playing list. I'm just really skeptical that it's allowing mobile streaming of the video content itself. At least at this time. We wouldn't learn about it from a shady blurb on Boston.com, I don't think.

Just my $0.02.

[morac]

I'm reading the article again, and you know what? I think the author simply got it wrong and is reporting incredibly misleading information. We'd have heard more about this streaming capability by now (even if it is just restricted to RCN Somerville customers.) That being said, I'll bet it's the same app we have, and they're just seeing "on demand" choices listed in the guide, and the names of their shows in their Now Playing list. I'm just really skeptical that it's allowing mobile streaming of the video content itself. At least at this time. We wouldn't learn about it from a shady blurb on Boston.com, I don't think.

Just my $0.02.

I responded to your post in the other thread, but my guess is that it will work the same way viewing programs from Netflix, Amazon, et al work currently work in the app. No where in the article does it say anything about streaming to the app.

[Fofer]

No where in the article does it say anything about streaming to the app.

I wouldn't go that far:

RCN customers in Somervillle pining to see shows on the go can take heart: TiVo has landed on the iPhone and iPad, the company announced.

All of RCN's on demand content is now accessible through a free Tivo app. Also included will be personal picks on customers' "now playing" list.

(emphasis mine)

I agree with you, the article probably got it wrong. But it's clearly suggesting mobile streaming with the way the article is written.

[Tony Chick]

I've been having horrible connectivity problems since the iPad app was released and the same with the iPhone version, I could connect once after an iPad reboot but never again after connection was (quickly) lost. The TiVo is on the wired network. I made a change to my DLink DIR-655 settings that seems to have fixed it:

Advanced > WISH > turn OFF the WISH checkbox

With it on, it attempts to prioritize certain kinds of traffic and Bonjour/UDP seems to suffer because of it.

I also checked "Enable WAN ping" on the Advanced Network page, but I don't think that affected it.

[Doh]

I'm reading the article again, and you know what? I think the author simply got it wrong and is reporting incredibly misleading information. We'd have heard more about this streaming capability by now (even if it is just restricted to RCN Somerville customers.) That being said, I'll bet it's the same app we have, and they're just seeing "on demand" choices listed in the guide, and the names of their shows in their Now Playing list. I'm just really skeptical that it's allowing mobile streaming of the video content itself. At least at this time. We wouldn't learn about it from a shady blurb on Boston.com, I don't think.

Just my $0.02.


Yeah, that thought occurred to me too....

[b_scott]

I had that problem for a little while but I played around with the app and it rebooted itself, had me log in my MAK again, and was ok, so maybe you should try rebooting the app instead of the tivo?

same here.

[Beryl]

I can duplicate a crash on my iPad and my iPhone. Would someone else try it?

1. Bring up app
2. Type "13" (no quotes) in the search box
3. Use your fingers to look for the movie with that name or just minimize the on-screen keyboard.

*Crash*

Sometimes it crashes right away . I've tried other search arguments and it doesn't crash. Just "13".

[Fofer]

Unlucky number, indeed.

[bradleys]

Freaky!!!!

Submit an error report - but that is odd!

[cherry ghost]

I can duplicate a crash on my iPad and my iPhone. Would someone else try it?

1. Bring up app
2. Type "13" (no quotes) in the search box
3. Use your fingers to look for the movie with that name or just minimize the on-screen keyboard.

*Crash*

Sometimes it crashes right away . I've tried other search arguments and it doesn't crash. Just "13".

Mine crashes. Also crashes with "UFC"(no quotes)

[Beryl]

Freaky!!!!

Submit an error report - but that is odd!

Done. Thanks to all for trying it.

[Beryl]

Fell back in love with this app last night.

Was watching a movie with some British actor and started exploring more movies with him featured. Found an acclaimed movie and saw that it wasn't scheduled to air on any of my subscribed channels but it was available on Hulu Plus. I have that free for another 3 months so I clicked on the Hulu icon and it started streaming on my TV.

It was very cool and it would be cooler if the Amazon icon would do the same for Prime content. (Couldn't resist.)

[mrizzo80]

v2.0 of the app seems to offer a nice performance update; many screens feel quicker. Graphics and Cover Art seem a lot faster too.

[falken98]

FYI, 2.0 will not run on a device that is jailbroken.

[windracer]

FYI, 2.0 will not run on a device that is jailbroken.
Yup. :down:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=16917&stc=1&d=1346888510

[spaldingclan]

yep and xCon hasn't been updated yet to block the block

[b_scott]

why? Apple said a long time ago they didn't care if you JB

[Fofer]

Apple has nothing to do with it. This is the resuIt of some Cablecard rule, intended to protect the content. TiVo probably was required to make sure the transfer endpoint was secure.

And for the record, Apple never said they "didn't care if you jailbreak." That statement is absurd, and besides the point anyway.

[falken98]

Apple has nothing to do with it. This is the resuIt of some Cablecard rule, intended to protect the content. TiVo probably was required to make sure the transfer endpoint was secure.

It would be nice if they just would have disabled the ability to stream protected content (or even disable streaming completely if they really felt the need) if the device was jailbroken. To disable the app completely so it can not be used at all is silly.

[spaldingclan]

I ended up just transferring over the old copy from my iphone to itunes and then copying that back over to the ipad

[windracer]

To disable the app completely so it can not be used at all is silly.
I completely agree!

[weldon]

It would be nice if they just would have disabled the ability to stream protected content (or even disable streaming completely if they really felt the need) if the device was jailbroken. To disable the app completely so it can not be used at all is silly.
It might be a tech support issue too. A lot of the developers that I talk to say that jailbreaking is their #1 cause of support calls. I don't know if this is true for TiVo, but a lot of developers feel they need to cut-off jailbroken phones so they can get their support queue under control.

[b_scott]

Apple has nothing to do with it. This is the resuIt of some Cablecard rule, intended to protect the content. TiVo probably was required to make sure the transfer endpoint was secure.

And for the record, Apple never said they "didn't care if you jailbreak." That statement is absurd, and besides the point anyway.

I should've said "it's been legal for 2 years".

[CharlesH]

I should've said "it's been legal for 2 years".There is, of course, a difference between something being illegal, and something that is a violation of a TOS. Companies are perfectly free to make life miserable for violators of the TOS (disable features, cutting off support, etc); they just can't haul you into court.

[Fofer]

Yes, indeed. And again, in this case, it's not Apple that forced this particular hand.

As an jailbreaker, I do also agree that it's very annoying that the whole TiVo app is now not launching, even for users who don't have/use the new Stream. I hold on to faith and optimism that xCon (or something similar) will be updated to allow it to work for us though. Until then I will just keep the previous version installed. Unfortunately, these are the considerations one must take and be aware of, when one takes on the "hobby" of jailbreaking.

[swarto112]

mine worked first time, no issues on sept 5 on both iPad and HD, iPhone 3gs and 4s

[Fofer]

I know this is a minor niggle and we should be happy to have the iPad app at all, but I have to say the timeline scrub bar is a bit of a letdown.

For starters, it doesn't work on shows I've pulled over from my previous TiVo (via MRV.) Seems MRV strips the necessary metadata to make this work? :confused:

Secondly, on shows where the timeline scrubber does work? It's a bit of a mixed bag. It would be sooooo much more useful if the little black stub that shows the time updated dynamically as you scrubbed, so you'd see what exact time you're scrubbing to to. As it stands now, all you can do is make a guess, based on placement.



http://www.fofer.com/sharedimages//skitched-20110130-094244.jpg



I'm not sure when they fixed this, but on the current version of the TiVo app, now scrubbing works exactly as I'd hoped it work! The time display is updated dynamically as you scrub! Huzzah!