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royfox

12-31-2010, 01:28 PM

Hi all,

Firstly., Happy New Year.

As some may know, I've been in talks with VM to grab all us Series 1 supporters a special offer in January.

They have asked me to gather information of interested parties so they can discuss internally the deal etc.

I have a website up and running where you can register your interest in the new VM Tivo. I'm keeping the website open until the 14th Jan, I will then send all data I've collected to my contact who has advised they should make contact before the end of January.

PLEASE NOTE: Im not an employee of VM or TiVo and I have no interest other than to get myself and everyone else a good deal.

I would encourage anyone with an interest to register.

here we go:::::eek::D:eek:

https://vmtivo-s1registration.co.uk/vmtivo/Home.html

Rules of registration:
Only 1 submission per user
Entry must be made no later than the 1st of Feb 2011
You MUST have your series 1 registered
You must already be a customer or be willing to be contacted by & sign up to Virgin Media if you aren’t one

Please post in as many places as possible so that we can get as much data and interest as we can.

Apologies for the basic site, it's not one of my skills.. i was working till 4am this morning to get it to this stage... It is safe 128bit encryption and full dedicated SSL certificate.

Any questions ask....there is an email address on the site.

VM are telling me that they intend to start shipping to S1 owners end of January, so register quickly please.

I will be in China from the 10th Jan till the 20th Jan, so any questions may be answered with a delay.. but I will close this registration site down on the 14th as planned so you only have 2 weeks to lodge your information.....

Roy

Tony Hoyle

12-31-2010, 01:57 PM

Nice.. (Reading between the lines this implies no Tivos before end of Jan?).

royfox

12-31-2010, 02:08 PM

I think end of Jan for s1 owners is feasible.

mrwhizzard

01-01-2011, 04:27 AM

They are beginning their general staff rollout from end of Jan/early Feb so not entirely unfeasible ;)

memememe

01-01-2011, 04:31 AM

I for one, thank you very much for all your efforts, appreciated

I am registering. I have 3 S1's and not sure which if not all are registered with Tivo but will detail, this on the form too.

Can't wait!

cwaring

01-01-2011, 04:50 AM

frobozz

01-01-2011, 05:24 AM

Thanks for your efforts. I'll register in a couple of days when I get back home.

S1 Tivo (lifetime sub) is currently in the loft. I assume I will be able to retrieve my Tivo service number by powering it up and searching through the menus, is there any other way (other than searching for a poorly files 10 year old letter!)?

mrwhizzard

01-01-2011, 05:52 AM

Will be interesting to see how they handle the tv package bit seeing as having XL package is a pre-requisite for anyone wanting to take a TiVo box from VM initially.

mikerr

01-01-2011, 05:57 AM

S1 Tivo (lifetime sub) is currently in the loft. I assume I will be able to retrieve my Tivo service number by powering it up and searching through the menus, is there any other way (other than searching for a poorly files 10 year old letter!)?
It's printed on the back of your Tivo box near the PSU.
- assuming you have never swapped the motherboard of course.

Also in the menu Messages & Setup / System Information

childe

01-01-2011, 06:06 AM

katman

01-01-2011, 07:10 AM

Had to type "na" in the Virgin field as I dont currently have Virgin and it wont allow that field to be blank, also as Carl said, only the top edge of the buttons was visible

royfox

01-01-2011, 08:20 AM

Could you add an "M" option to the TV packs list as that's the one my parent's are on.

Also, you need to make the form slightly larger as I an only just see the buttons at the bottom of it! (IE8 on Win7Pro)

Thanks.

Added the "m".. I'm trying to increase the size but struggling.. Will ask my it guy to take a look in a couple of days when I return to work..

Just use a real browser like Safari ;)

royfox

01-01-2011, 08:23 AM

Roy

Thanks for sorting this out for us. I have 2 questions which I hope you can answer.

I definitely want the new Virgin Tivo in my main viewing room (to replace my V+ box), but as I have 2 outlets in my house I want to keep using my old Series 1 in the other room as it is more than adequate for the type of viewing in that room. At least until it packs up or Tivo stop supporting lifetime subscriptions...

If I sign up, via your website, to the special deal that Virgin are going to give us will this result in the immediate termination of my lifetime subscription to my series 1 Tivo once I get the new box? I hope not.

Also, my mother is a Virgin customer and has a series 1. If the deal is good she may also want to move to the new Virgin Tivo. Does she need to register on this forum to qualify for the deal? Also, like Carl's Mum, she only has Medium TV - will she be eligible for the new Tivo?

Thanks

Eric

Nope.. This will have ZERO impact on any contracts you have right now.. Please remember this is not Virgin or Tivo supported.. this is little old me trying to get us a bargain..
So sign up and let me submit the data to them.. you can then discuss any issue or concerns with them when they make it clear how this thing will move forward..
As for S1 continuation, like you and everyone else. I have no idea how Tivo / Virgin intend to continue support in the UK..

royfox

01-01-2011, 08:24 AM

Had to type "na" in the Virgin field as I dont currently have Virgin and it wont allow that field to be blank, also as Carl said, only the top edge of the buttons was visible

Sort of sorted.. I couldn't find a way to have a drop down choice, so put an information bit underneath. thanks...

cwaring

01-01-2011, 08:34 AM

Added the "m".. I'm trying to increase the size but struggling.. Will ask my it guy to take a look in a couple of days when I return to work..
Should just be a matter of changing the height of the form or something. I did have a quick look at the source code but couldn't make any sense out of it :confused:

Just use a real browser like Safari ;)
No excuse for sloppy programming ;):p:D

royfox

01-01-2011, 08:35 AM

Should just be a matter of changing the height of the form or something.

No excuse for sloppy programming ;):P:D

Fixed I think.. seriously, could you just view it for me as I don't have IE...

katman

01-01-2011, 10:18 AM

Looks ok now

cwaring

01-01-2011, 10:49 AM

Fine here.

childe

01-01-2011, 12:14 PM

Quick request for help please - I'm trying to register my Mum's account and can't tell if the first character of the final string in her tivo service number is a 0 (zero) or a ;etter O. It looks like a 0 zero, but for my Tivo it is a C, so I know it could be a letter O. Does anyone know if it is possible to have a zero as the first character of the final string?

Thanks

mikerr

01-01-2011, 12:43 PM

It's hexadecimal ... so no letter Os, just 0123456789ABCDEF

sjp

01-01-2011, 01:44 PM

thanks Roy, now I owe you beer as well ;)

childe

01-01-2011, 03:51 PM

It's hexadecimal ... so no letter Os, just 0123456789ABCDEF

doh!

Thanks

childe

01-01-2011, 04:02 PM

In case anyone was wondering, the injunction "Only 1 submission per user" is being enforced. I just tried to register for my Mum, but the web site detected I had already registered once, even though I used a different email address and phone number this time round. Does it recognise my IP address? Or are you using cookies? Crafty... Now I'll have to go round to her place to do it from her PC. No big deal, but I thought I was being clever, and it turns out I was not:rolleyes:

royfox

01-01-2011, 04:32 PM

Ovit-UK

01-02-2011, 04:20 AM

Signed up, thanks.

staffie2001uk

01-02-2011, 04:50 AM

I'm on holiday so can't physically get to my TiVo. Does anyone know if I can find the service No. via TiVoWeb?

Cheers,

Colin.

royfox

01-02-2011, 05:25 AM

I'm on holiday so can't physically get to my TiVo. Does anyone know if I can find the service No. via TiVoWeb?

Cheers,

Colin.

Colin..
Sign up and I can add your missing detail later..
Roy

mikerr

01-02-2011, 05:42 AM

You can find it in the tclient logs in tivoweb:

http://tivoip/logs/tclient or http://tivoip/logs/0tclient

Look for a line like this:
01/02:05:27:04 /tvbin/TClient: tcdId: 023000060201234

staffie2001uk

01-02-2011, 06:00 AM

Thanks Mikerr.

Royfox, I've pm'd you with my service No to add to the registration.

Thanks,

Colin.

nektar

01-02-2011, 06:17 AM

Is there a risk for me here entering my TIVO subscription number - I am a lifetime sub and worry that my number could be used on someone else's box?

cwaring

01-02-2011, 08:25 AM

In here yes, though highly unlikely as we're all pretty honest and respectible - as far as I know, anyway ;)

There's no problem using the form linked to in the first post.

royfox

01-02-2011, 10:13 AM

Is there a risk for me here entering my TIVO subscription number - I am a lifetime sub and worry that my number could be used on someone else's box?

Not too sure that could be done anyway. I though the registration number was linked to the actual chip on board the pcb.. I could be wrong..

Anyway.. I'm not here to do things like that.. but I do appreciate your concern..

Tony Hoyle

01-02-2011, 11:04 AM

It's relatively easy to subvert (it reads it off the motherboard, then sends it using easily editable TCL), but I doubt there's any particular reason to do so... Subs aren't being charged for anyway at the moment and anyone who wanted an S1 probably already picked up a lifetime subbed one already.

That's always assuming royfox snafu'd and the list of subscription numbers got out, which is presumably unlikely anyway.

royfox

01-02-2011, 11:57 AM

Major dude

01-03-2011, 05:29 AM

Just wanted to add my thanks to Roy.
Great initiative on your part even if it does not pay off, it was well worth a try.
If you do not ask you do not get and we all want TiVo to succeed this time and take it's rightful place as the best gadget of all time in the UK.

AENG

01-03-2011, 05:45 AM

Great initiative, Roy. Thank you. I've signed up - it's certainly worth a try. :up:

AndyW

01-03-2011, 05:53 AM

Just adding my thanks too Roy - fingers crossed!

royfox

01-03-2011, 05:56 AM

Thanks for the praise, but in all honesty there is a little self indulgence, I like you just want TiVo to succeed and have a better option than I currently have.

hokkers999

01-03-2011, 06:07 AM

You MUST have your series 1 registered

Please define "registered" ? All lifetime units are obviously registered with Tivo.

I bought lifetime units for my father-in-law and youngest daughter. Both are interested in upgrading.

F-I-L : is old school and likes to get "everthing from one place" if he can.
Y-D : "likes the look" of the new model.

Both S1's were bought off ebay and like many people we never bothered to ring up Tivo and "change the ownership".

Are those units eleigible for the upgrade (both are on vm, both have M telly).

fysmd

01-03-2011, 06:17 AM

Done, fingers crossed for a great offer from Virgin.

deshepherd

01-03-2011, 08:55 AM

Can't come quickly enough for me ... returned from 5 days away visitng parents etc last night to discover halfway through first day it botched a channel change and ended on the dreaded 110 "You do not subscribe to LiveHD, phone xxxxx to subscribe, press OK to remove this screen" display which was what the next 4 days worth of recordings all contained as in recent power cyclings of STB to get it restart during the day then I seem to have left the time switch on "always on" rather than the "turn off 2:00-2:01 every day" setting!

royfox

01-03-2011, 10:19 AM

Please define "registered" ? All lifetime units are obviously registered with Tivo.

I bought lifetime units for my father-in-law and youngest daughter. Both are interested in upgrading.

F-I-L : is old school and likes to get "everthing from one place" if he can.
Y-D : "likes the look" of the new model.

Both S1's were bought off ebay and like many people we never bothered to ring up Tivo and "change the ownership".

Are those units eleigible for the upgrade (both are on vm, both have M telly).

Just need to show on the registration that you are an owner of a series 1 unit. As the offer we will ultimately get is for current S1 owners and users.

Hope that is a little clearer?

nbaker

01-03-2011, 10:20 AM

Both S1's were bought off ebay and like many people we never bothered to ring up Tivo and "change the ownership".

Are those units eleigible for the upgrade (both are on vm, both have M telly).

Well I have filled in the details of my ebay Lifetime subbed machine, so I hope so:o

Bought this machine a few years back replacing my original broken S1.

Once again many thanks to Roy:up:

royfox

01-03-2011, 11:03 AM

Well I have filled in the details of my ebay Lifetime subbed machine, so I hope so:o

Bought this machine a few years back replacing my original broken S1.

Once again many thanks to Roy:up:

That will be fine

deshepherd

01-03-2011, 02:53 PM

Expect its ok but I registered in my name but for "technical reasons" (mainly due to the length of a call to, as was then, Telewest customer support to get our account reinstated when after renting out our house for a couple of years while I was on a work assignment to Silicon Valley we discovered our tenants had transferred our cable connection to their new address and it took them so long to sort out that I had to go somewhere else and hand the phone to my wife) our VM account is actually in my wife's name and Telewest used to refuse to talk to me citing "data protection"

dja1971

01-04-2011, 09:21 AM

royfox

01-04-2011, 09:52 AM

Help! All of my furniture and possessions - including my S1 Tivo - is currently in storage as I am having my house renovated. Its not due to be completed until the end of March, and I can't get to my Tivo to access the info I'll need until then. Is there a way I can still register? I am after all a current S1 owner...

Hi,

Unfortunately the only way to prove ownership is by a tivo service number.. one stipulation VM gave to me was, it has to be current S1 ownership that is rewarded..

By all means you can add your info to the list but as I've said to about 5 other people today, I'm can't guarantee VM will take the registration.. sorry this bit is out of my hands..

childe

01-04-2011, 10:17 AM

Roy - When we reach the registration deadline, would you mind letting us know how many registrations you have had? I'm just curious to know how many of us there are, even if this is only owners in a Virgin area. Do we number in the tens or the hundreds, or possibly the thousands? Thanks.

royfox

01-04-2011, 10:28 AM

Yes no problems.

EdGillett

01-04-2011, 11:09 AM

royfox

01-04-2011, 11:45 AM

I assume that my S1 currently languishing under a desk without an active monthly sub (non lifetime) means I don't get to play?

I'm still a registered owner, if not currently active user - can I add my details to the list anyway :)

If I were you, I'd power it up and see if there is a service number in the settings. If there is, that seems acceptable to me and I'm sure it will to them.

cwaring

01-04-2011, 01:47 PM

Or just look on the back ;) (Am I wrong? I thought the number was on there. It's been a while :p)

velocitysurfer1

01-04-2011, 02:34 PM

I'm just curious to know how many of us there are, even if this is only owners in a Virgin area. .

I've signed up even though I'm not in a Virgin area. One reason for doing this is to show Virgin that there is interest out there in their product.

Well done to Roy for getting us this far.:up:

netnode

01-04-2011, 03:24 PM

Done and thanks for trying to help us all out

UncUgly

01-05-2011, 06:05 AM

done - and going to try and talk the MiL through getting the service number so I can register her, as she lives in a Virgin Area it would be IDEAL !

qwiki

01-05-2011, 06:48 AM

Done.

Thanks Roy

hornist

01-05-2011, 07:42 AM

Help! All of my furniture and possessions - including my S1 Tivo - is currently in storage as I am having my house renovated. Its not due to be completed until the end of March, and I can't get to my Tivo to access the info I'll need until then. Is there a way I can still register? I am after all a current S1 owner...
I'm in exactly the same situation as dja1971. My S1 is in a storage facility in the south of France, and is due to reach me in the UK about the 17th Jan. It's lifetime subbed. Is there no way that we (or VM) can find out the subscription information some other way?
And before you ask, the computer that I used to use for remote admin of the TiVO is also in the same storage!
Paul

royfox

01-05-2011, 12:56 PM

I'm in exactly the same situation as dja1971. My S1 is in a storage facility in the south of France, and is due to reach me in the UK about the 17th Jan. It's lifetime subbed. Is there no way that we (or VM) can find out the subscription information some other way?
And before you ask, the computer that I used to use for remote admin of the TiVO is also in the same storage!
Paul

Please remember that S1 TiVo really has nothing to do with Virgin at all.
Unfortunately I have to have a cut off date and the 14th suited me as I'm away in China and will have some spare time to close it all down and send the data to them.

I suggest you register and then fire me an email just to remind me to add a note on the list that you will update your service number later..

royfox

01-05-2011, 12:58 PM

done - and going to try and talk the MiL through getting the service number so I can register her, as she lives in a Virgin Area it would be IDEAL !

Just remember that the registration is IP + cookie based so you will ideally have to use a different IP and clear out the cookie... otherwise it won't register

hokkers999

01-05-2011, 02:52 PM

Just remember that the registration is IP + cookie based so you will ideally have to use a different IP and clear out the cookie... otherwise it won't register

What is this obsession with tying an "interest" to a specific ip address? Talk about absolutely pointless crap.

Just proxy it or even better use Tor.

Bloody amateur web apprentices.

royfox

01-05-2011, 03:32 PM

What is this obsession with tying an "interest" to a specific ip address? Talk about absolutely pointless crap.

Just proxy it or even better use Tor.

Bloody amateur web apprentices.

If you had any clue how long I have spent setting this up for your benefit you wouldn't make comments like that.

You really are an obnoxious, rude tit.
Guess who is on my blocked list

nbaker

01-05-2011, 03:37 PM

royfox

01-05-2011, 04:18 PM

Zaichik

01-05-2011, 04:30 PM

I want to register and I am comfortable with supplying all the info except my Virgin account number. Can I still register?

royfox

01-05-2011, 04:38 PM

I want to register and I am comfortable with supplying all the info except my Virgin account number. Can I still register?

Only supply what you are comfortable with.

ghstone

01-05-2011, 06:21 PM

Roy, many thanks for going to the trouble of doing this, but I guess if I'm in a none cabled area I and my friends and relatives can't take advantage ? A pity, as we have 10+ Lifetimes actively being used at the moment, and i have a 'few' others in the cupboard...

cwaring

01-06-2011, 04:00 AM

As previously mentioned, add your details anyway. If only to show them that an non-cable Tivo would be a good idea.

hokkers999

01-06-2011, 04:56 AM

Yes definitely a most unwelcome comment. :mad:

Think hes just sore cause he will be stuck with a S1 when we have shiny new boxes :p

I for one appreciate your time & effort Roy and I am certain many others do :up:

1. It's data gathering just for the sake of it. It's quicker & easier NOT to gather the ip addy and tie it to a cookie.

2. I'm in a VM area, so it's my choice to stay on S1. As I said Father-in-Law and Youngest Daughter both want to change.

steveroe

01-06-2011, 05:58 AM

Zaichik

01-06-2011, 10:50 AM

Only supply what you are comfortable with.

Thanks - I'll sign up tonight. :up:

royfox

01-06-2011, 01:59 PM

Can we clarify please: Do you want those of us with a series 1 who cannot get a Virgin Tivo as we don't live in a cabled area to sign up (without Virgin account details) so they have an idea of interest or not? Will it skew your data?

You can do that as I can filter the data afterwards. I think it would prove to VM that there could be an install base for non cabled people also.

royfox

01-06-2011, 02:01 PM

warrenrb

01-06-2011, 03:53 PM

Will the extended submit date mean we'll have to wait longer to find out what the offer is then? (How impatient am I?) ;)

Zaichik

01-06-2011, 04:08 PM

royfox

01-06-2011, 04:48 PM

I'm having trouble registering. First I tried in IE9 and got an error that "form spam" had been detected and my submission had been aborted. I then tried in Google Chrome and the submit button is completely missing. :confused:

EDIT: Finally managed it using Firefox.

Sorry about that. I don't use Microsoft so haven't tried it with IE. It did work with osx chrome thou. I will recompile in the site in the morning just in case there is a gremlin.

royfox

01-06-2011, 04:52 PM

Will the extended submit date mean we'll have to wait longer to find out what the offer is then? (How impatient am I?) ;)

Yes unfortunately. I've had a few requests from people that are either away on holiday or haven't got there Tivos set up. So I thought the extension would be a good idea. Sorry.
Just to give you an indication on results so far.

There have been 100 registrations as of 7pm today.

I would have thought there would have been more. What does everyone else think?

mikerr

01-06-2011, 04:58 PM

I'll stick a link up on my site & twitter it in a minute

- see if that inflates your numbers ;)

royfox

01-06-2011, 04:59 PM

I'll stick a link up on my site & twitter it in a minute

- see if that inflates your numbers ;)

Thanks

TCM2007

01-06-2011, 06:50 PM

100 seems like a a very good number, given the number of people on this board and the relative small proportion who live in a Virgin areas. Good job.

cwaring

01-07-2011, 02:44 AM

Sorry about that. I don't use Microsoft so haven't tried it with IE. It did work with osx chrome thou. I will recompile in the site in the morning just in case there is a gremlin.
Worked fine with Win7 and IE8 :)

mikerr

01-07-2011, 03:54 AM

100 seems like a a very good number, given the number of people on this board and the relative small proportion who live in a Virgin areas. Good job.
Only a tiny minority of TiVo owners read this board - most of us visited when we had a problem and hung around. Far more just pass through, or never even look here.

Wondering whether to send an email to all past customers ?

Much as I hate spam - I'd say many (most!) are unaware even that Virgin are releasing a new TiVo.

A large amount are only just discovering that TiVo can record anything other than the five analogue aerial channels !

royfox

01-07-2011, 03:59 AM

Only a tiny minority of TiVo owners read this board - most of us visited when we had a problem and hung around. Far more just pass through, or never even look here.

Wondering whether to send an email to all past customers ?

Much as I hate spam - I'd say many (most!) are unaware even that Virgin are releasing a new TiVo.

A large amount are only just discovering that TiVo can record anything other than the five analogue aerial channels !

I know VM are getting a list of current S1 owners from TiVo. So they should cover that side.
Our / my registration will be smaller, as you rightly say, not everyone will visit the forum.
Vm are quite happy with the results so far, I suppose it's just my own personal expectations that were dented. Easily done thou lol.

AMc

01-07-2011, 04:11 AM

I know VM are getting a list of current S1 owners from TiVo. So they should cover that side.
I suspect that Tivo owner list will contain a lot of errors for lifetime machines. I only updated my details because I was helping my parents with a problem on their eBay lifetime machine and Sky wanted a valid service number. If I hadn't made that call it would be an old address from 2006.
For a long time the advice on here was to avoid re-registering lifetime subscriptions as the close old account/open new one process was prone to problems that resulted in LT Tivos that reported "account closed".
I'm sure the monthly subs will be a bit more reliable as those people were making regular payments in their names but I can still imagine a lot of old addresses.
I don't think Tivo/Sky collected email addresses when you registered.
Wondering whether to send an email to all past customers ?
I wouldn't mind if I got a single email from an old supplier with that kind of information, though I bought my stuff from Tivoheaven.

AMc

01-07-2011, 04:24 AM

You can do that as I can filter the data afterwards. I think it would prove to VM that there could be an install base for non cabled people also.
I'm outside a cable area but I AM a Virgin Media Broadband customer using their ADSL and phone services over a BT rented line - there seemed to be no option to add that but I've registered as a non Virgin customer with my service ID & postcode.

I'd be happy to continue with that and a Tivo based Freeview/Freesat + VOD based box like BT Vision.

warrenrb

01-07-2011, 04:31 AM

Yes unfortunately. I've had a few requests from people that are either away on holiday or haven't got there Tivos set up. So I thought the extension would be a good idea. Sorry.

Oh No! Damn you, out-of-the-country people! ;)

deshepherd

01-07-2011, 08:51 AM

I know VM are getting a list of current S1 owners from TiVo. So they should cover that side.

In any case given the message a couple of months agao I'm sure there'll be a "TiVo now available from VM" message when its available.

Also, perhaps they might even fire-up "Dossa and Jo" facility to send the VM-TiVo demo to everyone!

OzSat

01-07-2011, 09:06 AM

The "Dossa and Jo" situation isn't really any different to the Sky Anytime system where they download unwanted content to your Sky box.

laurence@key2.co

01-07-2011, 09:33 AM

There have been 100 registrations as of 7pm today.

I would have thought there would have been more. What does everyone else think?

I haven't got around to registering yet - partly just finding the time to and partly because I was a little apprehensive about entering personal details. But, I'm definitely up for the new tivo. I wonder how many others have delayed for the same reason. Not having to put in the service number certainly encourages me to get on with it!

laurence@key2.co

01-07-2011, 09:46 AM

Ive had talks today with VM.. from those talks I've extended the submit date to the 1st Feb. I've also removed the virgin account number section from the form as they didn't feel this was necessary..

Roy

Just re-read that. So you do still need us to enter the tivo service number?
Presumably, they could confirm that we are existing customers from the data they get from tivo.

TCM2007

01-07-2011, 05:54 PM

In any case given the message a couple of months agao I'm sure there'll be a "TiVo now available from VM" message when its available.

Also, perhaps they might even fire-up "Dossa and Jo" facility to send the VM-TiVo demo to everyone!

Nice idea! Shame they don't own their own channels any more to let them broadcast it.

abuelbanat

01-08-2011, 04:35 AM

Can I just add my thanks.

I've been a TiVo user since Oct 2002 (ebay 5 minutes after landing from a holiday in Arizona) - and used this forum off and on for a couple of years later.

I've loyally stuck by my trusty TiVo in the face of advancements everywhere else - the interface and features still imo beating pretty much everything else around.

Lately tho it started to fade, a few reboots here and there and I could swear the pixelation was getting worse, a really noticeable difference between the standard sky picture and the tivo one......more reboots becoming common - and then I came home from work yesterday to find it dead. No picture, no live TV, it still plays recordings and tries to change channels etc but nothing I've tried gets it to a picture.

I thought I'd check on here for any tips and wow - even better, tivo from virgin, and someone's been kind enough to consider us loyal tivo types.

i'm signed up.

thanks very much.

Fatbloke

01-08-2011, 04:47 AM

I'll add my details today :-)

ptruman

01-08-2011, 05:55 AM

Apologies if posted elsewhere, but https://tivo.virginmedia.com/public/interest is now taking pre-registration.

http://tivo.virginmedia.com/ has the adverts.

(for clarity, I've registered on both - can't hurt!)

Only thing I'm miffed about is that I've already paid for an HD box.

mikerr

01-08-2011, 06:10 AM

Apologies if posted elsewhere, but https://tivo.virginmedia.com/public/interest is now taking pre-registration..
Yep - but that's for all potential virgin media customers

The one in this thread is for us existing TiVo customers who'll (possibly) get a special deal if we're on the list:
https://vmtivo-s1registration.co.uk/vmtivo/Home.html

deshepherd

01-08-2011, 08:51 AM

Nice idea! Shame they don't own their own channels any more to let them broadcast it.

Yes, that would have been a good idea. I remember when sky+ came out realizing that TiVo would never be able to compete when going on holiday to somewhere with sky and seeing how whenever a channel was off air the simply broadcast a continuous loop of a sky+ promo program.

ptruman

01-08-2011, 09:39 AM

Yep - but that's for all potential virgin media customers

The one in this thread is for us existing TiVo customers who'll (possibly) get a special deal if we're on the list:
https://vmtivo-s1registration.co.uk/vmtivo/Home.html

Bzzzzt, I'm afraid you're wrong there. :)

I got the email as I AM a VM customer (part of their "Electric" e-mag) and if you subscribe for info, it asks if you are already a customer and to add your area billing code and account number.

royfox

01-08-2011, 10:30 AM

royfox

01-08-2011, 10:37 AM

Bzzzzt, I'm afraid you're wrong there. :)

I got the email as I AM a VM customer (part of their "Electric" e-mag) and if you subscribe for info, it asks if you are already a customer and to add your area billing code and account number.

The registration at www.vmtivo-s1registration.co.uk is not a Virgin run site. It's independent. Us S1 owners "will" get a special offer from Virgin, that I can say.

I personally have registered on both sites, as I'm sure the majority of people on this forum have.

Royalflush

01-08-2011, 10:54 AM

Details added, thx :up:

nbaker

01-08-2011, 11:56 AM

Apologies if posted elsewhere, but https://tivo.virginmedia.com/public/interest is now taking pre-registration.

No worries, but I guess most people here registered there interest when that site was lauched, early December if I remember correctly.

ptruman

01-08-2011, 02:03 PM

The registration at www.vmtivo-s1registration.co.uk is not a Virgin run site. It's independent. Us S1 owners "will" get a special offer from Virgin, that I can say.

I personally have registered on both sites, as I'm sure the majority of people on this forum have.

Hopefully everyone has read the posts properly :)

I never said the URL at the start of THIS thread wasn't anything to do with Virgin - I posted a new link (emailed out this morning to me) FROM Virgin. Someone in thread stated that was for "new customers only", which it is not (click the tickybox, add your account details).

I'd recommend you add both, in case any details differ - at best we get all the prices available for comparison.

HTH

And back we go :)

Fred Smith

01-09-2011, 08:52 AM

Details added. Thanks to Roy for his time and effort.

abuelbanat

01-10-2011, 04:41 PM

haha - my situation has just become dire!

first TiVo packs in..... although that was on the cards for a few months now. unfortunately the old sky box feeding it has now packed in.....works for an hour or so and then the picture goes, followed by the sound (!). Turning it all off at the wall for half an hour lets you repeat the cycle......checked all the connections etc however it's probably 10 years old so it's probably also had it's chips.

dilemma. got virgin V+ box in back of house and was simply going to get another sooner rather than later for the living room....obviously now going with VM TiVo but need to wait......arrgh.

Furball

01-11-2011, 02:54 AM

Done and will pass on the link to others

Furball

royfox

01-11-2011, 03:43 AM

Hi All...

Jut to advise that I travel to China today, back on the 20th, so I will be out of contact for the next couple of days whilst I settle into my new home in Dongguan province..

I will be keeping track of the forum and answer any questions as soon as I can..

roy

Furball

01-11-2011, 04:52 AM

Not that it matters really but my confirmation e-mail still says a closing date of 14th Jan

Thank you for taking the time to register your details.

This information will be redirected to Virgin Media on or before the 14th January 2011. Virgin Media will then be in touch directly with you.

Once again, thank you.

Furball

royfox

01-11-2011, 04:56 AM

Not that it matters really but my confirmation e-mail still says a closing date of 14th Jan

Furball

Corrected.. thanks for the heads-up..

EdGillett

01-12-2011, 10:34 AM

And I added my details over the weekend too :) and Yes Carl, the sticker on the back had the Service Number on it, thanks for the heads up.

Once again, thanks for your efforts on this royfox - pillar of the community!

And if anyone can enlighten me as to how to block the troll, that would be great - what an ungrateful swine! Hokkers can hok off - pay no mind roy, not worth the effort.

Remember all - don't feed the admittedly very tempting to feed troll :|

steveroe

01-12-2011, 10:41 AM

And if anyone can enlighten me as to how to block the troll, that would be great - what an ungrateful swine! Hokkers can hok off - pay no mind roy, not worth the effort.

Just click on this link: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=132769 :up:

cwaring

01-12-2011, 01:43 PM

I'm not going to 'ignore' him as he's good for a laugh :D

randap

01-12-2011, 02:17 PM

Nice one! Registered my details. Thanks for your efforts...

Paul.

andyfoxccp

01-12-2011, 06:21 PM

Thanks Roy, and lets look forward to a lovely offer from VM to us all :-)

deesee

01-12-2011, 06:46 PM

You can get your tivo service number from inside the back page of your tivo viewers guide, simples:)

Hornet

01-13-2011, 06:22 AM

Hi Roy,

Just wanted to add my thanks, I don't post here too often but really appreciate your fine efforts in organising this for us S1 owners.

Hornet.

VirginMediaPhil

01-14-2011, 02:44 PM

I don't post here too often

You haven't posted since 2002. That's a bit of an understatement IMO;):p

cwaring

01-14-2011, 04:01 PM

But factually accurate, none-the-less :D

royfox

01-16-2011, 11:12 PM

Hi All,

Im now back in HK and just wanted to let you know that I've sent an email to my contact for an update.. As soon as I know anything, I will post..

Roy

shozoku

01-17-2011, 02:47 AM

I have a quick question. My non-subbed (yes i know!) S1 Tivo has been retired for 2 years now and while it is registered to me i have never changed my address with tivo/sky/virgin cs. Will this affect me registering for this offer?

cwaring

01-17-2011, 04:33 AM

I'm sure Roy will correct me if I'm wrong but no, I don't think it will. As long as you have a valid S1 serial number, you'll be fine.

jonphil

01-17-2011, 06:33 AM

Have registered my details on the site (well both) and hopefully when someone hears what the 'special offer' will be they will post the details.

I'm just concerned that I registered with Virgin too so depending which list they work through first how will we know if it's the special offer we are getting?

I have only had SkyHD+ for a year and getting sick of not being able to find shows to record and worse still it randomly just forgetting to record something or not being able to set a series link.

My other half was always against moving to Virgin, but since discovering how rubbish the Sky HD box is and Virgin getting Tivo we maybe switching.

Our series 1 is still working on freeview in the bedroom :)

royfox

01-17-2011, 08:26 AM

I'm sure Roy will correct me if I'm wrong but no, I don't think it will. As long as you have a valid S1 serial number, you'll be fine.

Thanks Carl.. yes you are right

tankstage

01-17-2011, 11:28 AM

Just a quick question, what about multiple TiVo S1 owners who might want multiple Virgin TiVo's ?

(I would like to have 2, to replace my 3 lifetime subbed units).

DaveMax

01-17-2011, 12:47 PM

Only just found this thread ..... and duly signed up! Not sure how I'd get out of my existing contract though? Let's see what's on offer.

Tony Hoyle

01-18-2011, 02:31 AM

VM are always happy for people to extend their contracts to upgrade.. the minimum term really only matters if you try to cancel.

jonphil

01-18-2011, 04:12 AM

I'm just hoping whatever the offer is we can sign up online, as a few sites offer a large cashback amount for signing up to Virgin :)
I really can't wait for Tivo to come back to the UK.

hokkers999

01-18-2011, 10:39 AM

... since discovering how rubbish the Sky HD box ...

I had Sky for 18 years (original sky pioneer contract) in all that time the box just worked.

Only been on vm telly since September, since that time, the vm box has rebooted itself in the evening 5 times...

So this new box

h/w - bog standard off the shelf cisco unit, that should work ok

tv - delivered over cable as has been for years, as good as vm's network is and we all know that it struggles even now to deliver tv reliably. We were watching catch up (SD) this morning - picture froze then message came up - on demand not available! WTF???

Check nthellworld.co.uk and the numerous threads on there about vod being as unreliable as hell. Then factor in the extra traffic of 3 HD channels at the same time...

s/w - well, it was the rock sold Tivo s/w then vm started hacking it around to change the skins, add flash support (christ knows why, pile of crap), add a 3rd tuner - with all the +1 channels now I defy anyone to really NEED to access 3 channels at the same time.

Wonder what bugs vm have introduced INTO the Tivo code???

cwaring

01-18-2011, 10:47 AM

tv - delivered over cable as has been for years, as good as vm's network is and we all know that it struggles even now to deliver tv reliably.
No such problems here; ever.

We were watching catch up (SD) this morning - picture froze then message came up - on demand not available! WTF???
Nothing is ever perfect in this world. Probably just a glitch. These things happen. How much true VOD does Sky have, again?(Clue: none.)

Check nthellworld.co.uk and the numerous threads on there about vod being as unreliable as hell.
A minority I'm sure. People who are happy with their services will hardly ever post to tell about it.

s/w - well, it was the rock sold Tivo s/w then vm started hacking it....
Really? You sure?

...change the skins...
So? Has to look like VM product, doesn't it?

.....add flash support...
WRONG!! The Tivo Premier UI is based on it so it was already there.

...add a 3rd tuner - with all the +1 channels now I defy anyone to really NEED to access 3 channels at the same time.
Actually it's so that you can record two while watching something else back at the same time. (Sky+ is, of course, only "record one, watch one".)

Wonder what bugs vm have introduced INTO the Tivo code???
Given that it will be Tivo that has written the code (and made any changes that VM have wanted) then I suspect the answer is "none at all."

browellm

01-18-2011, 11:06 AM

Stop feeding the troll.

And most of all, stop quoting the troll so I don't have to see its stupid e-face after blocking it.

Cheers.

CeeBeeUK

01-18-2011, 12:08 PM

Given that the troll has vowed not to take up the offer of a shiny new VM Tivo box, why doesn't he stick to his S1 forum and leave us in peace?

jonphil

01-18-2011, 12:25 PM

All I will say is SkyHD = missed / clashed recordings non working series links
Never had a problem with Sky itself, but a new HD Tivo box is very tempting
Tivo upstairs = remembering to record things even when we haven't bothered to put anything in to record for MONTHS!! :)

That is my book is why Tivo will always be better to anything else on the market :)
I'm almost certain that VM won't be allowed to play around with the Tivo code.

hokkers999

01-19-2011, 04:20 AM

Really? You sure? (code has been altered?)"

Yes, none of the existing Tivo code supports three tuners, presumably at least part of the year+ delay in introducing back into the UK is due to the code rewrite.

hokkers999

01-19-2011, 04:23 AM

Given that the troll has vowed not to take up the offer of a shiny new VM Tivo box, why doesn't he stick to his S1 forum and leave us in peace?

Ho hum - personal insults now is it? A sure sign that you've lost the arhument :)

I am sticking to my S1 but as I've stated earlier father-in-law and oungest daughter want one.

hokkers999

01-19-2011, 04:23 AM

I'm almost certain that VM won't be allowed to play around with the Tivo code.

3rd tuner support?

cwaring

01-19-2011, 07:26 AM

Yes, none of the existing Tivo code supports three tuners, presumably at least part of the year+ delay in introducing back into the UK is due to the code rewrite.
There has not been any such delay. Was announced as "end of 2010", but then they even hit that with their 500 'soft-launch' last month. So nowhere near a year's delay.
I'm almost certain that VM won't be allowed to play around with the Tivo code.
3rd tuner support?
Added by Tivo on request; as I already stated. Maybe even as part of the contract.

CeeBeeUK

01-19-2011, 04:55 PM

Ho hum - personal insults now is it? A sure sign that you've lost the arhument :)

I am sticking to my S1 but as I've stated earlier father-in-law and oungest daughter want one.

What argument, I haven't posted in weeks. I just find you argumentative and irritating. This thread (and forum) is for the people that want to sign up for this service that royfox is providing, you do not; therefore I don't see what you are adding to this thread apart from strife.

I am sure your Father in law and youngest daughter would be welcomed to the discussion with open arms.

TCM2007

01-19-2011, 05:27 PM

I'm almost certain that VM won't be allowed to play around with the Tivo code.

Er, TiVo are writing the code specially for VM!

jonphil

01-20-2011, 05:03 AM

Royfox do you know if your sign up page will bypass this?

Will TiVo be available to existing customers first?

Yes, TiVo will be offered to existing customers before any new customers are offered the service. We launched it to our staff first, current Virgin Media customers will be next and then we’ll offer it to new customers.

I'm not really wanting to sign up to Virgin now without a Tivo box to then have to have another engineer come along a few months later to stick in the Tivo box.
I'm really keen to get the Tivo :)

Hmmm topcashback limited time £100 back offer is very tempting to sign up before Tivo is available?

royfox

01-20-2011, 07:36 AM

A quick update.

The registration on my site has now died in terms of new people, so I've decided to close this down as from tomorrow.

The next process will be for me to send your data to VM (securely). I know (;)) that all S1 users will receive a message VERY VERY shortly from Tivo via the messaging system on Tivo. This message should be self explanatory.. All I will say is the people that have registered on my site need not do anything about this message, your details are at the front of the queue and you will all be contacted by VM very soon.

I think it terms of dates.. by the end of January you should see the message pop up on your Tivo and then early Feb a phone call from CS... good luck everyone.. I really do not know what the offer is.. I've not been told. All I know, "WE" should be, if not the first, then amongst the first to get the new units and I've been reliably informed, the deal we are getting, really is a very good one.....

Unfortunately for me.. I won't be here in the UK when calls are being made as I'm away in the USA.. so it seems you lot will beat me to it.. let me know how they are....
Roy

jonphil

01-20-2011, 07:53 AM

Thanks Roy

I'm really looking forward to seeing the message appearing on my Tivo.
I really do hope the offer is a good one, as for Virgin I would be switching from Sky completely so they would be gaining someone for Broadband, Phone, TV and Tivo :)
I know it's going to cost me a little more, but it's hard to compare 3.5mb I get for my Sky Broadband to the 20Mb I'm looking at hopefully getting with Sky, plus a dedicated 10Mb connection for the Tivo itself :)

It's been a long time coming, but we really can't wait to get Tivo back into our lounge instead of it being stuck recording just freeview stuff upstairs :(

okonski_uk

01-20-2011, 09:32 AM

There has not been any such delay. Was announced as "end of 2010", but then they even hit that with their 500 'soft-launch' last month. So nowhere near a year's delay.

You're right. It's nowhere near a year's delay. Since the press release it is already 14 months. Any announcement for the 'end of 2010' was certainly not in 2009 when they 'revealed' the TiVo deal. As for this soft launch - staffers don't count I'm afraid - it isn't commercially available, so no clock has started.

Best of all - the bint in the promo flash presentation on Virgin's own website with her "Oh, Hello... we've not even launched yet..." appears not to convince you, despite this video arriving in January 2011! By all means join your equivalent of the 'flat earth' society, but for those who look at the bigger picture are in no doubt of the actual situation. No paying customers = no service launch.

So it might be February if us S1 owners are lucky. Good. My V+ box is OK, but not a TiVo, and I'll not miss it when it goes. The new free Ipad App for controlling your TiVo remotely is stunning so the innovation of 2000 is still with us.

On a tangent, 20Mb BB users were advised on the V site they could upgrade NOW to the 30Gb service for no increase in cost, except for a £30 charge for a new integrated modem/router. My order went in, only for an email to phone them the next day. The 30Mb service won't be launched until March. But strangely, if I selected the 50Mb option, I could!

Nothing changes! :)

swanny

01-20-2011, 12:52 PM

I think it terms of dates.. by the end of January you should see the message pop up on your Tivo and then early Feb a phone call from CS

Hi Roy,

My TiVo is no longer used, I got my service number off the back of the unit. Will I need to get it up and running again to see the message or will the phone call from CS suffice?

Cheers for all your efforts to date :)

royfox

01-20-2011, 01:04 PM

No. I will be given a link at the end of Jan by vm for people like yourself. I will post that link on the forum.

PeteM

01-20-2011, 01:14 PM

Hi Roy,

Just wanted to add my thanks, I don't post here too often but really appreciate your fine efforts in organising this for us S1 owners.

Hornet.

Just want to echo that :up:.

But as a member of the "don't post much" club, this is really a gratuitous post to get my postcount to 10, so I stop seeing the silly messages! :)

swanny

01-20-2011, 01:44 PM

No. I will be given a link at the end of Jan by vm for people like yourself. I will post that link on the forum.

Thank you sir :up:

cwaring

01-20-2011, 03:04 PM

You're right. It's nowhere near a year's delay. Since the press release it is already 14 months.

Any announcement for the 'end of 2010' was certainly not in 2009 when they 'revealed' the TiVo deal.
Well, they certainly mentioned 2010.

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=205406&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1359178&highlight=
Virgin Media currently anticipates its first TiVo co-branded product in 2010.

As for this soft launch - staffers don't count I'm afraid - it isn't commercially available, so no clock has started.
They do if they're actually paying customers and not beta testing it. Which they are.

On a tangent, 20Mb BB users were advised on the V site they could upgrade NOW to the 30Gb service for no increase in cost, except for a £30 charge for a new integrated modem/router. My order went in, only for an email to phone them the next day. The 30Mb service won't be launched until March. But strangely, if I selected the 50Mb option, I could!
Nothing changes! :)
Yes. I think that was simply a genuine error as the page was pulled rather quickly :)

hokkers999

01-20-2011, 06:38 PM

There has not been any such delay. Was announced as "end of 2010"

Deal announced in 2009, now 2011 and nothing shipping, I'd call that MORE than a year's delay actually.

spitfires

01-21-2011, 02:42 AM

...and then early Feb a phone call from CS.
That's going to be amusing for all those people who bought a lifetime unit on fleece-u-bay but, following the advice given on here, didn't change their registration details from the original owner! :eek:

I can see it now...

CS: Good evening Mr Bloggs I have a wonderful offer for you to upgrade your Tivo

MrB: I ain't got no Tivo - I got rid of it 5 years ago.

CS: Ok we'll cross that unit off the list. Sorry to have troubled you. Goodbye.

< effects> Lights out.

cwaring

01-21-2011, 03:38 AM

Deal announced in 2009, now 2011 and nothing shipping, I'd call that MORE than a year's delay actually.
Lots of companies announce things well ahead of time. The point still stands and is still true.
That's going to be amusing for all those people who bought a lifetime unit on fleece-u-bay but, following the advice given on here, didn't change their registration details from the original owner! :eek:
Not really because the list they will be using is the one RoyFox gave them :) I think the DPA prevents them from seeing the details previously held by Sky of all the S1 box owners.

Babylon

01-21-2011, 09:49 AM

Too late :-(
Only found this today, still got an S1 in use and looking forward to the new model.

ixi

01-21-2011, 11:48 AM

Oh No! is it really too late to send you my details! I thought the deadline had been extended to the end of the month. Oh Dear

mhopley

01-22-2011, 02:29 AM

I was also waiting for the end of the month before registering. As a non cable customer I was wondering if Virgins offer was going to be better than the £100 cash back offered by Quidco.

laurence@key2.co

01-22-2011, 04:50 AM

Arghh,
Haven't got round to looking up TiVo service number! Thought I had a few more days!
Is there any way you can add me please? Promise I'll look it up today if you can!

okonski_uk

01-22-2011, 01:26 PM

I would think anyone who is a non cable customer will have a long wait. Tivo is heavily dependant on VM's IP infrastructure. Trying to make TiVo work as the S1 did (as a stand alone) will not be a good advert for anyone - look at BT Fusion, which is the closest anyone has got, not only does this suck, it is BB intensive for the non-Freeview delivered content. As much as I love TiVo, expecting it to work seamlessly across all platforms is going to create problems for the brand, and VM.

Oh, and Roy - I tip my hat to you for your sterling efforts to date to keep VM and S1 users in the loop. It is very much appreciated!

hokkers999

01-22-2011, 07:08 PM

Trying to make TiVo work as the S1 did (as a stand alone) will not be a good advert for anyone

Why? All it needs is a picture signal?

Freeview box - scart - Tivo ??

Please don't assume that this "walled garden" where you only get to run vm approved flash apps is of any appeal to those of us who simply want a Tivo powered pvr.

oh yes, best of luck trying to navigate the internet using the remote control...

TCM2007

01-23-2011, 05:42 AM

[QUOTE=hokkers999;8339763
Freeview box - scart - Tivo ??[/QUOTE]

Awww, SCART, how quaint. Not in 2011,

It would be perfectly possible to make a great TiVo with twin FreeviewHD tuners. But I can't see Virgin doing it. And they are now the only ones who can.

Virgin are interested in subscription revenues, and making a FreeView TiVo which did not require a subscription would not benefit them.

cwaring

01-23-2011, 07:14 AM

Awww, SCART, how quaint. Not in 2011
Unfortunately, that's how I will be connecting mine. No HD here yet!

jonphil

01-23-2011, 07:41 AM

TCM2007

01-23-2011, 08:04 AM

Unfortunately, that's how I will be connecting mine. No HD here yet!

You're still on a CRT TV?

cwaring

01-23-2011, 08:31 AM

Yes indeed. Unemployed = not much money :)

TCM2007

01-23-2011, 08:50 AM

Fair enough.

frobozz

01-23-2011, 09:03 AM

just been reading on another forum about scart and hdmi and how Virgin boxes normally only output one or the other.
Is this really the case and hope the Tivo box won't be the same.

From the Virgin Tivo FAQ http://bit.ly/g2rOsU

Does it connect via HDMI/are other connections available?

The STB has 1x HDMI, 1x Scart which will both run in parallel

hokkers999

01-23-2011, 09:04 AM

Awww, SCART, how quaint.

and how the vast majority of people in the uk connect up their equipment. Tens of millions of tv's that don't have hdmi, and won't be either until the set breaks as they haven't bought into the hd con

jonphil

01-23-2011, 09:14 AM

From the Virgin Tivo FAQ (http://help.virginmedia.com/system/selfservice.controller):

Does it connect via HDMI/are other connections available?

The STB has 1x HDMI, 1x Scart which will both run in parallel

Cheers. I was hoping for an excuse to convince the other half to replace the analogue cat5 sender with a HDMI one :( lol The senders have come down in price loads and yes you have to run a cat5 cable between rooms but the picture quality is far better than 'digisenders' that went in the bin due to unwatchable pictures.
Oh well I may get HDMI upstairs eventually ;)

cwaring

01-23-2011, 09:51 AM

Have attached a text file of the FAQs. Did try a PDF and a JPG but they were both too large! :(

TCM2007

01-23-2011, 11:05 AM

and how the vast majority of people in the uk connect up their equipment. Tens of millions of tv's that don't have hdmi, and won't be either until the set breaks as they haven't bought into the hd con

I suspect you're wrong with "vast majority". Every TV and STB in the shops has been HDMI for what, 5 years, maybe more.

Certainly if you're in the market for cutting edge PVR (which is what we were talking about), no-one will be connecting that with a SCART.

big_dirk

01-23-2011, 11:44 AM

what is the offer? Have I missed it? I'm a S1 TiVo owner and VM customer...

cwaring

01-23-2011, 01:20 PM

Certainly if you're in the market for cutting edge PVR (which is what we were talking about), no-one will be connecting that with a SCART.
Erm.... :o

okonski_uk

01-23-2011, 01:33 PM

Why? All it needs is a picture signal?

Freeview box - scart - Tivo ??

You think? There is no conventional RF input (as far as I'm aware) so how is this 'all it needs' going to work then? It is going to require explicit enablement and its MAC addressed registered on VM's servers. Without which it will be a rather futuristic-looking door stop.

BT Vision has the closest to what you describe, and that ain't no TiVo. As for wanting the web on my TV, no thanks. Perhaps for IPTV, but I'm not going to be surfing the web when I have existing technology that does it better.

big_dirk

01-23-2011, 01:58 PM

Erm.... :o

lol I thought that too, you just told him of someone!

Does anyone know what the details of the offer are yet please? I only visit these parts infrequently and want to know what I have missed!

mikerr

01-23-2011, 02:09 PM

Why? All it needs is a picture signal?

Freeview box - scart - Tivo ??
All modern multi tuner PVRs record the digital stream - the days of re-encoding an input like our S1 TiVos do is long gone.

Yes, it made for a very flexible system at the time, and made it capable of using sky/freeview/freesat even now - but its not the best way to design a system in 2011.

A freeview/freesat PVR doesn't really fit VM's subscription business model
- they sell channels/services - not boxes.
Does anyone know what the details of the offer are yet please?
Noone knows yet - just that "there will be an offer for registered Tivo owners" - wait and see.

hokkers999

01-23-2011, 07:50 PM

You think? There is no conventional RF input (as far as I'm aware) so how is this 'all it needs' going to work then?

[snip]

As for wanting the web on my TV, no thanks. Perhaps for IPTV, but I'm not going to be surfing the web when I have existing technology that does it better.

Oh dear CW, looks like without a digital HDMI interface you're SOL for using the new box.

I completely agree about the waste of time & effort into providing a cut down highly vm sanitised "internet" on a pvr.

hokkers999

01-23-2011, 07:55 PM

I suspect you're wrong with "vast majority". Every TV and STB in the shops has been HDMI for what, 5 years, maybe more.

Certainly if you're in the market for cutting edge PVR (which is what we were talking about), no-one will be connecting that with a SCART.

A quick search turns up about 60 million telly's in the UK. Are you seriously trying to claim that the majority of those have been sold in the last 5 years?

martink0646

01-24-2011, 03:51 AM

just been reading on another forum about scart and hdmi and how Virgin boxes normally only output one or the other.
Is this really the case and hope the Tivo box won't be the same.
I only ever have one TV on at a time lounge TV connected via HDMI and then a scart connected to a video over cat5 to upstairs.
I know it's too soon to tell about the Tivo boxes, but wondering if I will need to get a HDMI over cat5 sender instead as I'm only ever going to be interested in watching what I already have recorded so I don't think I would really want another box for upstairs.

Hi Jonphil,

I recently moved into a house with a multiroom system (badly) installed. I got an HDMI over CAT5 sender for about £20.00 & it works perfectly. I haven't got a 1080p tv so I can't vouch for transmission of full HD but 1080i is perfect. The only drawback is that you need 2 CAT5 cables to use it. You can get single run HDMI over CAT5 senders but they start at £80+ pounds on ebay & go up from there. I hope whoever installed your system didn't do something utterly stupid like only run 1 CAT5 cable to the bedrooms & only 3 to the living plus wire the rear speakers into a seperate sub-zone so surround sound is off the menu:mad::mad::mad: D*ckheads!!

Martin

cwaring

01-24-2011, 04:41 AM

Oh dear CW, looks like without a digital HDMI interface you're SOL for using the new box.
Really? How so?

ETA: I'm so glad I un-hid you as you are about to make yourself look really, really stupid; again :D

jonphil

01-24-2011, 05:23 AM

Hi Jonphil,

I recently moved into a house with a multiroom system (badly) installed. I got an HDMI over CAT5 sender for about £20.00 & it works perfectly. I haven't got a 1080p tv so I can't vouch for transmission of full HD but 1080i is perfect. The only drawback is that you need 2 CAT5 cables to use it. You can get single run HDMI over CAT5 senders but they start at £80+ pounds on ebay & go up from there. I hope whoever installed your system didn't do something utterly stupid like only run 1 CAT5 cable to the bedrooms & only 3 to the living plus wire the rear speakers into a seperate sub-zone so surround sound is off the menu:mad::mad::mad: D*ckheads!!

Martin

I tend to do most things myself, I work in IT so tend to be a little confident in things. I already have a single Cat5 cable run and it should be fairly easy to run another cable. I'll go with the double cat5 as it's the only system which seems to give the IR feedback.
Already found the HDMI splitters on Amazon are far cheaper than anywhere else :)
Nice to know someone else is using HDMI over cat5 with no problems.

Now the question is how to convince the other half of the need to run the HDMI signal upstairs lol.

TCM2007

01-24-2011, 10:56 AM

A quick search turns up about 60 million telly's in the UK. Are you seriously trying to claim that the majority of those have been sold in the last 5 years?

Yes. TV sales are roughly 10m units a year.

TCM2007

01-24-2011, 11:00 AM

Erm.... :o

The exception that proves the rule!

Must say, seems odd to spend all that money and then attach it via analogue to an old TV. I think I'd have spent the money on a better telly instead!

cwaring

01-24-2011, 11:07 AM

Meh! It's only TV. I'm not a big fan of HD and I'd only be getting the same 32" screen anyway. I'm trying to save up :p

TCM2007

01-24-2011, 01:05 PM

Should be some decent second hand HD sets coming round by now.

hokkers999

01-24-2011, 08:08 PM

Yes. TV sales are roughly 10m units a year.

Sky & VM between them have waht 14m customers, let's be generous and say 50% have hd.

That's still only about 15% of all telly's. My point stands.

Even it is ALL of them still only 30%.

Next

laurence@key2.co

01-25-2011, 12:31 AM

Sky & VM between them have waht 14m customers, let's be generous and say 50% have hd.

That's still only about 15% of all telly's. My point stands.

Even it is ALL of them still only 30%.

Next

Don't quite understand your logic. Your original argument was that most wouldn't be connecting with hdmi as the majority of tvs in use wouldn't have it. Perhaps I've missed something.

Anyhow, returning to the original thread, does anyone know if there's a way to get myself added to Roy's list? I managed to miss it. But, I'm hoping to get the new TiVo (and connect it with HDMI).

martink0646

01-25-2011, 03:40 AM

I tend to do most things myself, I work in IT so tend to be a little confident in things. I already have a single Cat5 cable run and it should be fairly easy to run another cable. I'll go with the double cat5 as it's the only system which seems to give the IR feedback.
Already found the HDMI splitters on Amazon are far cheaper than anywhere else :)
Nice to know someone else is using HDMI over cat5 with no problems.

Now the question is how to convince the other half of the need to run the HDMI signal upstairs lol.

Hi Jonphil,

I wasnt trying to suggest you were stupid. You obviously install what you need at the time & have the capacity to add more. The 'installers' who did mine only put in the bare minimum for the sysytem they were installing & then only for analog, composite at that. It is all sealed up now & if I wanted to install anything I would need to rip out the walls in every room - yes, they didn't even rope the ducts!!!!!!!! This wasn't done 5 or 10 years ago it was done in 2009 when HD was already the standard.

I was in the business about 13 years ago & even then I would have flooded the ducts with CAT5e/CAT6 to future proof given the low cost of the cable.

Martin

okonski_uk

01-25-2011, 03:43 AM

And what about the need to abandon CRT due to the analogue switch off? A look down my street revealed everyone with their curtains open (90%!) had a flat panel ranging from 20-40", possibly more, if the CRT was dumped and not relegated to a second set.

Hopefully, they won't get fooled with the radio equivalent they're trying to foist upon us...

jonphil

01-25-2011, 03:57 AM

Hi martink0646

I didn't think that at all :)
If you ever do decide to have a go at replacing it yourself D-link trunking seems very good... we have cables hidden away that just looks like part of the skerting board or laminate floor edging.

cwaring

01-25-2011, 03:57 AM

And what about the need to abandon CRT due to the analogue switch off?
Really? Since when? Or were you referring to the myth that you have to do this?

I've had digital TV since Telewest first launched it in Wakefield; where I was then living, back in .... erm... 2002-ish I think.

Next
That would be me (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8341417#post8341417). I await your answer with interest :)

TCM2007

01-25-2011, 06:39 AM

Sky & VM between them have waht 14m customers, let's be generous and say 50% have hd.

That's still only about 15% of all telly's. My point stands.

Even it is ALL of them still only 30%.

Next

10m a year x 5 years = 50m TVs sold since HDMI was introduced as standard.

So the "vast majority" of the 60m TVs (your figure) in this country are HDMI enabled.

You can (and should) connect SD equipment over HDMI; HDMI has nothing to do with HD.

TCM2007

01-25-2011, 06:43 AM

And what about the need to abandon CRT due to the analogue switch off?

The millions the Government have spent on info on the digital switchover clearly wasn't well spent!

CRTs work just fine with digital TV, just as they always have.

cwaring

01-25-2011, 07:12 AM

...HDMI has nothing to do with HD.
Really? Pretty sure it does. Well, in as much as it stands for High Definition Multimedia Interface :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

okonski_uk

01-25-2011, 07:35 AM

Really? Since when? Or were you referring to the myth that you have to do this?

No myth - the majority of CRT's were not digital - by that I meant no 'Freeview' tuners. I had a Freeview Sony CRT, and was one of the early adopters - but it was limited to scanning for 30 channels (max) and had to have 2 in-house Sony engineer visits to fix (unspecified) issues. If you mean CRTs can be kept going by the addition of a STB, not many can be bothered with 2 remotes and I'm aware of countless pensioners who will not countenance the arrival of two remote controls simpyl to continue to watch TV.

I've had digital TV since Telewest first launched it in Wakefield; where I was then living, back in .... erm... 2002-ish I think.

You probably didn't. As an NTL customer my boxes were analogue, even the off-air channels fed through were the analogue feeds and they stayed that way until 2006 or so - this was in tandem with the promotion of the so-called 'red button' services.

The real myth - that Virgin has/had to switch to 'digital' because the Govt ordered them to is laughable. This only affected terrestrial transmissions, a cable co could just as easy keep radiating the basic 1-5 via RF (as they did for the unsupported FM rebroadcast service) but there's little point explaining this to a customer service droid if their middle managers don't know either.

okonski_uk

01-25-2011, 07:40 AM

The millions the Government have spent on info on the digital switchover clearly wasn't well spent!

CRTs work just fine with digital TV, just as they always have.

Not without a conversion box they don't!

And let's not forget, there's no 'digital switchover' it's an analogue shut-off. Even the terminology is designed to make it all feel positive, when in fact you're being strongarmed to change something that wasn't broke. The existing analogue system was enhanced to include colour, teletext, nicam stereo and if you didn;t want to upgrade to it, you didn't have to.

Hopefully the radio equivalent will have a much harder ride - DAB is crap, and the more folk realise this, the better! :)

cwaring

01-25-2011, 08:09 AM

..arrival of two remote controls simply to continue to watch TV.
That's what multi-remotes are for :D

You probably didn't.
Yes. Sorry. My mistake. I was thinking of my switch to Broadband in 2001. I have the work order here to prove it.

The real myth - that Virgin has/had to switch to 'digital' because the Govt ordered them to is laughable.
Never actually heard that one. If I had, I would probably agree with you.

TCM2007

01-25-2011, 01:12 PM

Not without a conversion box they don't!

And with a Freeview box they do! Took that as being obvious.

TCM2007

01-25-2011, 01:16 PM

If you mean CRTs can be kept going by the addition of a STB, not many can be bothered with 2 remotes and I'm aware of countless pensioners who will not countenance the arrival of two remote controls simpyl to continue to watch TV.

I think you undersell the versatility of pensioners. All of the ones I know seem to have coped just fine with two remotes.

TCM2007

01-25-2011, 01:17 PM

Really? Pretty sure it does. Well, in as much as it stands for High Definition Multimedia Interface :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

That's about the size of it - the name. You can connect an SD source via HDMI just fine.

TCM2007

01-25-2011, 01:20 PM

And let's not forget, there's no 'digital switchover' it's an analogue shut-off. Even the terminology is designed to make it all feel positive, when in fact you're being strongarmed to change something that wasn't broke. The existing analogue system was enhanced to include colour, teletext, nicam stereo and if you didn;t want to upgrade to it, you didn't have to.

Hopefully the radio equivalent will have a much harder ride - DAB is crap, and the more folk realise this, the better! :)

Ten times as many channels and three in HD - that's the kind of strong-arming I can cope with!

Went off here in the south west and where my mother lives in the north west without a murmur.

royfox

01-25-2011, 02:06 PM

jonphil

01-25-2011, 02:48 PM

Just to advise, the first Tivo messages should appear on or just after the 27th of Jan.. CS will be calling / contacting people from the 27th onwards..

Please let me know what offer you are getting as I said, I'm away to the USA so won't be in a position to take the offer up immediately. (i think that is called sods law)...

good luck everyone.. I really hope this works for you all and you get a good offer.. if not.. you may not see me on here again.. :D

I'm hoping it will be a link to a part of the website or something, I would prefer to be able to call them than being called when I'm in the middle of something.
But still this is to get Tivo so I can't wait. :)

cwaring

01-25-2011, 03:02 PM

That's about the size of it - the name. You can connect an SD source via HDMI just fine.
Well yeah, I know that; but SCART works just fine for SD too :)

Tony Hoyle

01-25-2011, 03:03 PM

Yeah a discount code or something would be nice.. I've instructed SWMBO to say yes to anything Tivo related if we get called next week.. but not sure VM will allow that as I'm the account holder (or it's even safe.. 'do you want 25 Tivos?','Yes').

okonski_uk

01-25-2011, 03:39 PM

I think you undersell the versatility of pensioners. All of the ones I know seem to have coped just fine with two remotes.

I'm on call to 2 neighbours one aged 84 and the other 87. Their biggest problem is with the volume, either the TV volume is down and they cannot hear, or it is where it should be (and showing on screen as such) BUT they have the STB volume down at zero.

Just as I was back for the nth time (with a smile) to explain this, one had a partly removed SCART, that gave picture, but no sound. Push it in and all's well. They don't like this, and it affects their confidence. A TV and 1 volume control is perfect.

okonski_uk

01-25-2011, 03:41 PM

Ten times as many channels and three in HD - that's the kind of strong-arming I can cope with!.

What! Ten times the carp? And +1's, and the shopping channels for the brain dead? Quantity was never an assurance of quality, and we certainly don't get much of the latter!

djb2002

01-25-2011, 03:43 PM

Just to advise, the first Tivo messages should appear on or just after the 27th of Jan.. CS will be calling / contacting people from the 27th onwards..

Please let me know what offer you are getting as I said, I'm away to the USA so won't be in a position to take the offer up immediately. (i think that is called sods law)...

good luck everyone.. I really hope this works for you all and you get a good offer.. if not.. you may not see me on here again.. :D

Is this TiVo message just regarding upgrading existing users to Virgin Media ?? - Or is it related to what options are available (if any) to existing users who cannot get Virgin Media ?

Thanks
Daniel

cwaring

01-25-2011, 04:09 PM

Seeing as there are no options available to non-VM customers, I'd say the former is more likely ;)

big_dirk

01-25-2011, 04:39 PM

I hope it's not a TiVo Message only as mine gave up the ghost today (2 days before the message is due!!) stuck on the Welcome. Powering Up screen :( :(

royfox

01-25-2011, 04:49 PM

I hope it's not a TiVo Message only as mine gave up the ghost today (2 days before the message is due!!) stuck on the Welcome. Powering Up screen :( :(

Don't worry. If you registered with my site, your contact info you gave is now safely with VM and they will contact you. If you are still worried, i will post the link on here to the site they are creating for the rest of the S1 owners that didn't register with me. Just means your details are ahead if the que.

TCM2007

01-25-2011, 05:03 PM

What! Ten times the carp? And +1's, and the shopping channels for the brain dead? Quantity was never an assurance of quality, and we certainly don't get much of the latter!

True, there is much crap, but

BBC HD
BBC three
BBC four
BBC news
Film4
More4
E4
Channel 1
Cbbc
Cbeebies
Sky News

Plus HD versions of C4 and BBC1 are well worth having.

Plus iirc analogue isn't even 16:9.

djb2002

01-26-2011, 01:03 AM

Seeing as there are no options available to non-VM customers, I'd say the former is more likely ;)

I was thinking of options such as suspending existing services, continuing free of charge, or starting to charge £10 per month again for those on monthly subscriptions....

jonphil

01-26-2011, 02:29 AM

Seeing as there are no options available to non-VM customers, I'd say the former is more likely ;)

Hope not as I'm not with VM but willing to switch in order to get Tivo.
Just hope it's not going to be too complicated canceling Sky phone and broadband while not going days / weeks without anything.

cwaring

01-26-2011, 03:35 AM

I was thinking of options such as suspending existing services, continuing free of charge, or starting to charge £10 per month again for those on monthly subscriptions....
Sorry. I was referring to the chances (at the moment) of getting a non-cable version of Tivo.

Hope not as I'm not with VM but willing to switch in order to get Tivo.
I'm sure there will be offers/prices. There is one at the moment, but VM have said they will be letting non-XL customers (ie those on lower packages) have it in due course.

TIVO_YORK99

01-26-2011, 05:00 AM

What's happened to your links Carl? Says you've got 0 posts?

hokkers999

01-26-2011, 05:59 AM

hokkers999

01-26-2011, 06:02 AM

And with a Freeview box they do! Took that as being obvious.

and a VM box, or a Sky box, or a Tivo box......

hokkers999

01-26-2011, 06:08 AM

That's about the size of it - the name. You can connect an SD source via HDMI just fine.

Really?

Come round to my house then and connect up the following with hdmi please

S1 Tivo - SOL
DVD Player - SOL
32" 6 year old telly - SOL

:p

You may be able to send SD pictures over the HD connection, but only if the box and the telly both have them in the first place :D

Muttley1900

01-26-2011, 06:44 AM

Just to advise, the first Tivo messages should appear on or just after the 27th of Jan.. CS will be calling / contacting people from the 27th onwards..

Just wanted to add my thanks for both the update re when messages will be appear and for the work you've put in to get the "deal" what ever it may turn out to be.

J.

cwaring

01-26-2011, 07:05 AM

What's happened to your links Carl? Says you've got 0 posts?
Well I'm seeing "Posts: 7,475" here :) Now +1 more of course ;)

cwaring

01-26-2011, 07:07 AM

You may be able to send SD pictures over the HD connection, but only if the box and the telly both have them in the first place :D
Yes. Again that's so bleedin' obvious that there was really no point in mentioning it :rolleyes:

Still no response as to why I will not be able to use the new VM Tivo then?

okonski_uk

01-26-2011, 07:30 AM

Why do you think CRT's won't work when analogue gets switched off? As long as they have a scart input....

So a SCART input is all they need? Did you forget to mention they also need a STB, PVR or other gubbins to make it do anytrhing useful? This is the tail wagging the dog!

I'm old enough to remember STB's for the introduction of ITV back in 1956 - all that needed was an RF aerial input, but 2 wall sockets and the ability to remember to turn it on before you get anything.... so nothing new there.

TCM2007

01-26-2011, 07:49 AM

You may be able to send SD pictures over the HD connection, but only if the box and the telly both have them in the first place :D

In the interests of every post not starting "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" and going on for a few million lines, I tend to assume the blindingly obvious.

hokkers999

01-26-2011, 10:37 AM

Yes. Again that's so bleedin' obvious that there was really no point in mentioning it :rolleyes:

Still no response as to why I will not be able to use the new VM Tivo then?

post #168, where the poster implies it's digital or nothing. Hope he's wrong though else I'm going to have a very disappointed youngest daughter, she's still got a CRT.

hokkers999

01-26-2011, 10:39 AM

So a SCART input is all they need? Did you forget to mention they also need a STB, PVR or other gubbins to make it do anytrhing useful? This is the tail wagging the dog!

I'm old enough to remember STB's for the introduction of ITV back in 1956 - all that needed was an RF aerial input, but 2 wall sockets and the ability to remember to turn it on before you get anything.... so nothing new there.

You do realise that ALL of the services from both Sky & VM come from an external box don't you? :p

As for multiple remote controls, for years people have had remotes for tv, sky or vm, dvd player....

big_dirk

01-26-2011, 11:50 AM

Don't worry. If you registered with my site, your contact info you gave is now safely with VM and they will contact you. If you are still worried, i will post the link on here to the site they are creating for the rest of the S1 owners that didn't register with me. Just means your details are ahead if the que.

I didn't, I missed it. Therefore I'm in a real pickle (or at least I thought i was).

I contacted VM independently yesterday who told me they'll release their own official micro site/survey thing for S1 owners which the helpful VM chap promised to automatically add my TiVo's details to for me. I'm now a bit gutted that my TiVo has died! Ah well, 12 years later I'll be finally getting it's upgrade just as it's died :D

royfox

01-26-2011, 04:03 PM

I didn't, I missed it. Therefore I'm in a real pickle (or at least I thought i was).

I contacted VM independently yesterday who told me they'll release their own official micro site/survey thing for S1 owners which the helpful VM chap promised to automatically add my TiVo's details to for me. I'm now a bit gutted that my TiVo has died! Ah well, 12 years later I'll be finally getting it's upgrade just as it's died :D

Yep you are correct. As I said, my list just sticks those that registered at the front. Anyone that missed the registration on my site will still get a chance to register with VM. For those who haven't got a working TiVo. I will post a link to register on this site. Hopefully that covers everyone then.

cwaring

01-26-2011, 04:16 PM

post #168, where the poster implies it's digital or nothing. Hope he's wrong though else I'm going to have a very disappointed youngest daughter, she's still got a CRT.
That post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8340508#post8340508) mentions absolutely nothing about the Tivo being "digital only"! Stop writing a load of nonsense will you please! :confused: :rolleyes:

jonphil

01-27-2011, 02:33 AM

Noooooo.... I'm not sure if my Cachecard in my Tivo is acting up.
I'm having trouble getting my Tivo to update and also noticed it's refusing to respond to ping's. Rebooted everything, Tivo router, switched to the wired connection from the wifibridge and still getting problems.
Has anyone else had a Cachecard fail before, or loose the network config.
Any hints and tips on how to get it back again?
It's been so long since I installed the cachecard I can't even remember how I setup the cachecard in the first place (do suspect it was sent already configured) But I'm certain it's not as simple as just plugging in a phone connection to update over the phone again?

HELP!!!! :( My details are registered and Tivo is up and running, I just can't seem to get Tivo to see the network :(

frobozz

01-27-2011, 02:46 AM

Noooooo.... I'm not sure if my Cachecard in my Tivo is acting up.(

I don't want to start a conspiracy theory but a lot of people seem to be reporting S1 problems or deaths just as VM are about to launch the new box! :rolleyes:

beara

01-27-2011, 02:50 AM

I don't want to start a conspiracy theory but a lot of people seem to be reporting S1 problems or deaths just as VM are about to launch the new box! :rolleyes:

I'm sure its a coincidence...but I fired mine up at the weekend after getting it out of the loft, and it just went into a 'nearly there' then reboot loop;)

big_dirk

01-27-2011, 03:02 AM

I'm sure its a coincidence...but I fired mine up at the weekend after getting it out of the loft, and it just went into a 'nearly there' then reboot loop;)

this is the order of events of my TiVo death.

1) Booted up the TiVo for the first time in 2 or 3 years, powered on and booted absoultely no problems at all, I could browse the recorded shows, it showed me my messages etc fine, I could connect to it's static IP and FTP to and from it.

2) left it switched on for 12 hours or so, and rather than the Now Showing screen I saw the grey "Welcome. powering on" screen.

3) Rebooted a couple of times and got no video output whatsoever

4) left it for 30 mins and booted up, stuck on the "Welcome. Powering on" screen again

5) left it 24 hours, booted it up and the Silicon Dust cachecard screen stuck part way through the caching process and said "Suspected HDD failure, check kernel log" and didn't get any further.

the HDD sounds in good health, no cilcking or odd noises.

I wonder if perhaps people are dusting off their old TiVos after a long time of not using them, and the HDDs are taking exception?

jonphil

01-27-2011, 03:59 AM

Yes HDD won't like having been sat for sometime and getting powered up, especially if they have been in the loft and not left to reach room temp. After all they are IDE 'old tech' drives.

I think my cachecard may have just somehow lost it's static IP address for some reason :( I think I may have to open the box up and see if I have a connection / activity light. The router itself sure seems to show connection and activity so 'something' looks to be happening.
Whoever gets the message first needs to post it on here :)

warrenrb

01-27-2011, 04:23 AM

So this is "TiVo Message Day" right? Everyone doing their daily call once every 30 mins? :D

big_dirk

01-27-2011, 04:24 AM

Yes HDD won't like having been sat for sometime and getting powered up, especially if they have been in the loft and not left to reach room temp. After all they are IDE 'old tech' drives.

what confused me was how it booted up absiolutely fine first time though, *then* it died a while after it connected to the web.. I'm not trying to fuel a conspiracy theory here lol, but that is how it happened in my case.

I think my cachecard may have just somehow lost it's static IP address for some reason :( I think I may have to open the box up and see if I have a connection / activity light. The router itself sure seems to show connection and activity so 'something' looks to be happening.
Whoever gets the message first needs to post it on here :)

:( good luck with your cachecard issue, and yes totally agreed!!! Especially seeing as I can't read my TiVo messages now! :(

Tavis75

01-27-2011, 04:44 AM

Getting quite excited now! Waiting for the call or for the message to turn up on here (TiVo is not connected up anymore). Wonder how the calls will be organised, hoping for alphabetical order (for purely selfish reasons)! Though guess it could be by Virgin Media region or something, depending on how they're handling the rollout.

Remember back to getting my original TiVo, pre-ordered one from either Currys or Dixons online but the release date came and went without them sending it out, so I took a chance, cancelled the order and headed to the shops. Dixons had an end of aisle display which I pretty much went straight up to, grabbed a member of staff and said "I want one of those!". Then had a nervous wait while he went to see if they actually had any in stock. Think I must have been amongst the first few owners, still reckon it's the best £400 quid I've spent (plus several years of £10 per month!)

okonski_uk

01-27-2011, 05:13 AM

You do realise that ALL of the services from both Sky & VM come from an external box don't you? :p

As for multiple remote controls, for years people have had remotes for tv, sky or vm, dvd player....

Be as obtuse as you like - it was you who stated ALL you needed was a SCART, without mentioning you needed something else.

As for multiple remotes - when you're less able-bodied, multiple remotes will be not just the bane of your life, but possible a real barrier to you seeing the entertainment you require. You'll not be 'young' forever, as my 85 year old neighbours remind me...

jonphil

01-27-2011, 09:35 AM

Been in touch with Virgin via Twitter and they have said the message may not arrive until tomorrow.
Website should be up and running sometime this evening though, so it does sound like we will just be asked to register directly with Virgin. Would be so nice if the same page was actually the order page :)

sjp

01-27-2011, 10:24 AM

cwaring

01-27-2011, 10:42 AM

Site: www.twitter.com/virginmedia
Contact: @virginmedia
hashtag: #virginmedia (Use of hashtag is optional and is only used for searches)

See here for general help: http://support.twitter.com/groups/31-twitter-basics

sjp

01-27-2011, 10:46 AM

Thanks Carl

jonphil

01-27-2011, 10:50 AM

royfox

01-28-2011, 05:59 AM

Ok the official virgin website for any S1 owners that haven't already registered with me (or you want belt and braces) is now live. Please spread this link.

virginmedia.com/tivoupgrade

Tavis75

01-28-2011, 06:18 AM

Well, that's my interest registered three times now! Just wish the actual installations would start!

jonphil

01-28-2011, 06:24 AM

Disappointed :(
I was really hoping for an order page. Do Virgin sales people work weekends, i.e. any chance of a phone call this weekend?
I'm at work and it's the first time I have ever put down my mobile number as a contact as I really don't want to miss them calling. :)
No hint of a special deal though :( maybe getting it before anyone else is the 'deal'

Surprised they are not asking for any details to verify Tivo ownership as anyone could fill in that form, unless they have a list from Tivo of S1 owners to cross check with?

royfox

01-28-2011, 06:35 AM

Patience. It will be very soon.

jonphil

01-28-2011, 06:52 AM

Patience. It will be very soon.

I'm like a child waiting for Christmas :)

Tavis75

01-28-2011, 07:11 AM

I'm like a child waiting for Christmas :)

Yep, don't think I've been this excited about the launch of a piece of AV equipment since, well, probably TiVo, the first time round!

warrenrb

01-28-2011, 07:14 AM

There's lots of 'soon' and winky emoticons over on the cable forum too, from VM staff. I understand they can't say anything, but it is getting a little infuriating.

Anyway, are people who signed up on Roy's form gonna do this one too? It seems like it might confuse matters to me. I've done Roy's and the first VM one already. It would be great to just get a price and see if I can afford the damn thing after 14 months of waiting.

I'm on the 'M' TV package at the moment (not even 'M+'; it's basically Freeview), and my TiVo ToDo list currently has 10 programmes to record for the next two weeks (2 of which I could live without), so I'm now wondering if I watch enough TV to suddenly start paying 36 quid a month or whatever it will be to upgrade to XL+TiVo, regardless of what the box costs us up front.

It seems a particularly lean time for decent telly just at the moment, and I dearly love my TiVo, and would love HD, but it's a tricky call. Is everyone else around here (who are on VM) already on XL?

John McE

01-28-2011, 07:17 AM

If we've registered already via Carl's list on here, do we need to re-register on the Virgin site, or will that simply confuse them?

jonphil

01-28-2011, 07:38 AM

Is everyone else around here (who are on VM) already on XL?

I'm not even with VM yet. not wanting to sign up until I can get the lot installed at the same time.

Major dude

01-28-2011, 07:49 AM

I'm on the 'M' TV package at the moment (not even 'M+'; it's basically Freeview), and my TiVo ToDo list currently has 10 programmes to record for the next two weeks (2 of which I could live without), so I'm now wondering if I watch enough TV to suddenly start paying 36 quid a month or whatever it will be to upgrade to XL+TiVo, regardless of what the box costs us up front.

It seems a particularly lean time for decent telly just at the moment, and I dearly love my TiVo, and would love HD, but it's a tricky call. Is everyone else around here (who are on VM) already on XL?

I am in a similar position and very price sensitive when it comes to monthly subscriptions. I am confident that my current VM package is the best value I can get, but if I am forced onto the XL package to obtain a VM TiVo I will certainly be doing the sums to find out if it is worth the ongoing extra monthly charge. It amazes me how much people are willing to pay out if what they are buying is packaged as a monthly charge rather than a one off payment.

Tavis75

01-28-2011, 08:32 AM

Major dude

01-28-2011, 08:46 AM

I'm on the XL TV package. Seem to remember that when I looked at the VM TV packages that although the extra TV channels weren't a huge bonus (though glad to have a few of them), the fact that you got the V+ and HD free of charge with the XL package meant that the actual increase in cost was pretty small. That coupled with the fact that some of the on demand stuff was charged for on lower packages but free on XL, pretty much made the XL package a no-brainer (plus, it still worked out about £15 a month cheaper than I was paying at Sky).

Good to hear,
Maybe it will not be as painful as I thought to get VM TiVo. At the moment I shell out on average £35 @ month, that is for:-
10mb Broadband;
Basic TV package;
home phone line rental;
and home phone call charges
(but no mobile phone).

How much extra per month would I have to pay for VM TiVo if I had to go for XL TV?

warrenrb

01-28-2011, 08:56 AM

About £40 p/m gets me 20Mb BB, M TV, line rental for Phone, with anytime calls. I'm thinking of dropping the anytime calls (8 quid a month I think), and maybe dropping to 10mb BB to subsidise my XL TV upgrade.

I find the way they do pricing really frustrating. For example, their website says 20mb BB is £10/m for 6 months, and then £20/m. OK, the 10 a month is new customers, fine, so I take their BB to be £20 a month. Fair enough?

Except on my bill they charge me £37/m for BB, but then give me "Phone, BBand XL & TV Discount" of £17.

It makes working out what things will actually cost really tricky - I've had arguments with CS about what it says on the website vs what things will actually cost me. I'd rather they did away with all this 'discount' crap and just told me straight what things cost.

So, if I upgrade to XL tv, or downgrade my Broadband, will my 'discount' stay the same, or change?

eg. It says £23.50/m for XL TV, but I'm sure when I called CS and asked, it was going to add 33 quid to my bill.