View Full Version : Bluetooth QWERTY Remote Backlit/Programmable
xboard07
03-09-2010, 03:52 PM
Does anyone know if the Bluetooth QWERTY remote will be back lit/programmable like the premium remote shipping with the XL?
innocentfreak
03-09-2010, 04:19 PM
From what I have read it is still not a final design so no real way to predict what it will and won't have.
xboard07
03-09-2010, 04:21 PM
Thanks
aaronwt
03-09-2010, 04:26 PM
It better have some kind of backlight for the keyboard, otherwise it would be pretty useless if you can't see the keys.
Like the keyboard that attaches to the Xbox 360 controller. It has a backlight which makes it easy to use in a dark room.
TexasGrillChef
03-11-2010, 01:30 AM
The prototype shown was backlit and was "Learnable".
TGC
xboard07
03-11-2010, 06:33 AM
The prototype shown was backlit and was "Learnable".
TGC
good to know, thanks
TexasGrillChef
03-13-2010, 02:13 AM
The new bluetooth remote makes me also wonder if someone won't come out with Bluetooth S3 Remote emulator software that will run on a computer, iPhone/iTouch, or any other Bluetooth telephone or bluetooth app type device.
TGC
gweempose
03-13-2010, 12:20 PM
The new bluetooth remote makes me also wonder if someone won't come out with Bluetooth S3 Remote emulator software that will run on a computer, iPhone/iTouch, or any other Bluetooth telephone or Bluetooth app type device.That would be pretty sweet if I could whip out my Palm Pre, launch a TiVo Keyboard app, and type away.
gthassell
03-13-2010, 02:55 PM
it has a full keyboard and given that there is already a Tivo BlackBerry app, it would be a GREAT addition to that. I'd even be willing to pay above market price for a special Tivo bluetooth adapter - (separate from a remote) as we already use a Harmony....
TexasGrillChef
03-16-2010, 01:11 PM
Point being though... Just by having bluetooth they have opened up the possibilities to ANYTHING that is bluetooth capable.
Just requires someone to do some programing to basically "Spoof" the remote and be viewed as such.
TGC
hungarianhc
03-17-2010, 02:32 PM
Any chance that since it is bluetooth, i will be able to use it to control my ps3?
blackngold75
03-17-2010, 02:35 PM
Any chance that since it is bluetooth, i will be able to use it to control my ps3?
THAT would be pretty cool.
shaown
03-21-2010, 09:44 AM
I heard on the rumor mill, that they were considering bundling the bluetooth remote with the premiere XL, but can't since its obviously not ready. So --- perhaps they will offer a cheaper / promo upgrade price for it to Premier XL owners? Would be nice. I think once its available it would be a nice item to bundle, really differentiate the SKUs more.
-Shaown
CubsWin
03-21-2010, 01:24 PM
With this bluetooth remote, does that mean I could control my receiver from the other room without the need for an IR Extender?
Dreamin
03-21-2010, 01:35 PM
With this bluetooth remote, does that mean I could control my receiver from the other room without the need for an IR Extender?
I would think so :up:
darock159
03-21-2010, 02:27 PM
it would depend on if all the remote's functionality is run through bluetooth or just the keyboard functions. it would be great for me if it did though since I have my current Tivo hooked up to the living room tv and the bedroom too.
matguy
04-01-2010, 03:18 PM
So, now that some of us have our Premieres (mine should come tomorrow) has anyone tried pairing any other Bluetooth devices to it, such as a standard Bluetooth keyboard?
DaveWhittle
04-01-2010, 03:19 PM
Bluetooth is not built into the Premiere. It's an add-on.
matguy
04-01-2010, 03:21 PM
Bluetooth is not built into the Premiere. It's an add-on.
Yeah, I was just reading back on that. It said something about a Bluetooth USB "dongle" that would come with it. It'll be interesting to find out if any other Bluetooth dongles would work with it, and then... yeah, ya know.
ldobson
04-01-2010, 03:22 PM
So, now that some of us have our Premieres (mine should come tomorrow) has anyone tried pairing any other Bluetooth devices to it, such as a standard Bluetooth keyboard?
The Premiere doesnt have bluetooth. Bluetooth will be added with the use of a dongle.
darock159
04-01-2010, 03:41 PM
I will try it out tonight (I have a Bluetooth keyboard I am not using) and let you know
Mike-Mike
04-01-2010, 07:17 PM
"dongle" is a funny word
darock159
04-01-2010, 11:30 PM
woohoo
I plugged in my Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard in and it works!!!:D It made setting up my season passes a snap.
Dreamin
04-01-2010, 11:45 PM
"dongle" is a funny word
Heh heh... you said dongle...
http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-For-Life/Cartoons/ImageFiles/BeavisButthead.jpg
orangeboy
04-02-2010, 06:20 AM
woohoo
I plugged in my Logitech diNovo Mini Keyboard in and it works!!!:D It made setting up my season passes a snap.
For real? That's huge news!
classicsat
04-02-2010, 09:06 AM
My opinions:
The remote will be IR for the surface buttons, Bluetooth for the Qwerty.
The Dongle will be "proprietary" to avoid the fiasco they had with network adapters years ago. Likely it will use the standard Broadcom 2045, or whatever chip those cheap dongles use.
You might be able to pair a standard Bluetooth keyboard, but I wouldn't count on it. You might be able to pair it with other things though.
b_scott
04-02-2010, 11:08 AM
Yeah, I was just reading back on that. It said something about a Bluetooth USB "dongle" that would come with it. It'll be interesting to find out if any other Bluetooth dongles would work with it, and then... yeah, ya know.
Tivo has a thing for dongles. Build in BT and N just like every other consumer electronics piece in the past 3 years? Nah - here's more crap to hang off your Tivo for an extra cost! :down::down::down:
Jonathan_S
04-02-2010, 11:23 AM
Tivo has a thing for dongles. Build in BT and N just like every other consumer electronics piece in the past 3 years? Nah - here's more crap to hang off your Tivo for an extra cost! :down::down::down:But on the plus side, since it seems that they just implemented standard USB human interface device (HID) keyboard support you can use any wired or wireless keyboard that has a USB dongle or plug.
b_scott
04-02-2010, 11:25 AM
But on the plus side, since it seems that they just implemented standard USB human interface device (HID) keyboard support you can use any wired or wireless keyboard that has a USB dongle or plug.
true, but i'd never do that. I don't want to lug out a keyboard and plug it in across the room.
Much easier to schedule on m.tivo.com
Build in BT and N just like every other consumer electronics piece in the past 3 years? Nah - here's more crap to hang off your Tivo for an extra cost! :down::down::down:
I have been through many, many items over the last three years that had neither bluetooth nor wi-fi. Perhaps your only experience with "consumer electronics" is your cell phone? :rolleyes:
b_scott
04-02-2010, 11:37 AM
I have been through many, many items over the last three years that had neither bluetooth nor wi-fi. Perhaps your only experience with "consumer electronics" is your cell phone? :rolleyes:
my cell phone doesn't have N.
My post was a generalization, but anything released in 2010 that is a large piece of CE, should have BT and N standard. My laptop had it in 2007
matguy
04-02-2010, 12:02 PM
true, but i'd never do that. I don't want to lug out a keyboard and plug it in across the room.
Much easier to schedule on m.tivo.com
No... but I have lots of wireless keyboards!
b_scott
04-02-2010, 12:14 PM
No... but I have lots of wireless keyboards!
how do you pair them up?
how do you pair them up?
Some you only need to pair if you are using advanced features. Others are hardware-paired at the factory.
b_scott
04-02-2010, 12:34 PM
I mean how does the Tivo recognize a wireless keyboard? How does it know it's talking to it and not some other computer?
aaronwt
04-02-2010, 01:33 PM
Very few devices come with wireless N. If they have wireless, most are still 802.11g.
I mean how does the Tivo recognize a wireless keyboard? How does it know it's talking to it and not some other computer?
Depends entirely upon the frequency and protocol. BT is wireless. Wi-Fi is wireless. Both rely upon very different protocols, if not necessarily different slices of spectrum. There are a number of wireless keyboards out there that do not even rely upon 2.4GHz spectrum. :eek:
b_scott
04-02-2010, 01:52 PM
Depends entirely upon the frequency and protocol. BT is wireless. Wi-Fi is wireless. Both rely upon very different protocols, if not necessarily different slices of spectrum. There are a number of wireless keyboards out there that do not even rely upon 2.4GHz spectrum. :eek:
right, but Tivo isn't wireless out of the box.
Jonathan_S
04-02-2010, 02:32 PM
right, but Tivo isn't wireless out of the box.Right, and just like with the TiVo's future blu-tooth remote/dongle config -- you plug the wireless keyboard's USB receiver into the Premiere, it shows up to the TiVo as a standard USB keyboard, and you can type away.
All the Premiere apparently knows is someone plugged in something that's claiming to be a USB keyboard. It doesn't know or care what's on the other end of the USB port as long as it talks like a keyboard.
b_scott
04-02-2010, 02:33 PM
Right, and just like with the TiVo's future blu-tooth remote/dongle config you plug with wireless keyboard's USB receiver into the Premiere, it shows up to the TiVo as a standard USB keyboard, and you can type away.
All the Premiere knows is someone plugged in something that's claiming to be a USB keyboard. It doesn't know or care what's on the other end of the USB port as long as it talks like a keyboard.
bolded is the part i was confused about. I was assuming wireless keyboards worked over a/b/g/n natively somehow. :o
Jonathan_S
04-02-2010, 02:39 PM
bolded is the part i was confused about. I was assuming wireless keyboards worked over a/b/g/n natively somehow. :oOk, yeah as far as I know the closest thing to a 'standard' for wireless keyboards is bluetooth, so some bluetooth keyboard might not come with a matching USB dongle.
But most likely would (so you could use them with a desktop PC that doesn't have onboard bluetooth) as would any proprietary ones.
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