Glee: Wheels 11-11-09 [Text View]

busyba

11-11-2009, 11:20 PM

The preggo blonde cheerleader seriously needs to take a shotgun round to the face.

Saw the Sue sister reveal coming from the moment the Sue told the girl that she was on the squad.

And now we know why the other blonde cheerleader who was hired for her dancing hadn't gotten any lines until now. :)

LoadStar

11-11-2009, 11:33 PM

uncdrew

11-12-2009, 12:20 AM

Was Wicked the musical good?

nachonaco

11-12-2009, 12:21 AM

Was Wicked the musical good?

I swear to God, that had better be a trick question.

:D

LoadStar

11-12-2009, 12:33 AM

Oh, yeah... it was cool to see a brief appearance by Vork (from "The Guild") as the boss at the end of the episode. Maybe he can put in a good word with the show's producers to get Felicia Day an appearance on the show as well?

busyba

11-12-2009, 12:51 AM

Was Wicked the musical good?

That's it, turn in your Man Card.

Oh wait.... :)

DevdogAZ

11-12-2009, 01:00 AM

So they're lacking funds to be able to rent a short bus. So what does Shue do? He goes out and buys a bunch of used wheelchairs? WTF?

Good episode, though. Enjoyed the music, the wheelchair stuff was a nice change, and I'm glad to see both Puck and Sue become a little more fleshed out.

appleye1

11-12-2009, 03:24 AM

Wow. That was an amazing episode. Whoever wrote that episode - make sure they write the entire rest of the series. Seriously. Yeah, the ending with Sue was somewhat predictable... but it was still a pleasant surprise that it actually ended up turning out that way. That was a cool moment.

I also like the way they're amping up the storyline around Quinn... and I was REALLY glad that I didn't have to see or hear a single thing about Terri or Emma. Frankly, I could go the entire rest of the series without seeing either of them again.Different strokes I guess. I wasn't all that crazy about the music in this episode, but I'd give a big thumbs up to the "handicapable" storyline. :up:

I also wasn't crazy about the Quinn and her money grab storyline. It's getting ridiculous. I just don't think there is any way Finn or Puck or both will be able to pay all cash for a pregnancy and delivery. I know it'll be bad but Quinn just tell your damn parents already and get the insurance to pay your bills! (Or make Terri pay the bills. Isn't she still buying the kid?)

Neenahboy

11-12-2009, 07:04 AM

dolcevita

11-12-2009, 07:58 AM

Saw the pot cupcakes coming from a mile away, but it was still hilarious.

Until he intentionally bungled the high F, I thought Kurt was trouncing Rachel in the diva-off.

Best episode of the series so far. And I'll agree with LoadStar...I'd be cool with never having to lay eyes on Terri or Emma again.

I was hoping they'd end conceding that Kurt and Rachel should perform Defying Gravity as a duet; thought that approach to the diva-off was very effective.

And did not miss Terri, Emma or Ken at all in this episode; in fact it was better for their absence.

LooseWiring

11-12-2009, 08:08 AM

I'm sorry but although Kurt was good Rachel was amazing. But I was also thinking they were going to be sharing a duet.

Anyone else think Wheels overreacted to the revelation by the Asian girl?

TriBruin

11-12-2009, 08:08 AM

Until he intentionally bungled the high F, I thought Kurt was trouncing Rachel in the diva-off.
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Funny, I felt quite the opposite. I felt Rachel was blowing away Curt the whole time. Rachel was signing with much more confidence, especially at the end.

Let me just echo, I loved the episode. I commented to my wife, first they make the actors sing and dance, but now they had to be able to perform in wheelchairs? Hope they got extra pay for that.

cheerdude

11-12-2009, 08:39 AM

Dancing With Myself & Defying Gravity are on the volume 1 album... but Proud Mary is not (but is available as a separate single)

coolpenguin

11-12-2009, 08:47 AM

I absolutely LOVED this episode! I missed the last episode (maybe I'll watch tonight or tomorrow...I think it was "Mash-Ups or something like that even though I've been told there were no mash-ups in the episode...)

I loved loved loved Jane Lynch for so many reasons. I actually didn't see it coming.

martinp13

11-12-2009, 08:55 AM

Until he intentionally bungled the high F, I thought Kurt was trouncing Rachel in the diva-off.I thought Kurt was very tentative in his singing, like his voice didn't really belong in that range but he was forcing it there. Just like I do when I'm singing in the car. ;) Rachel was pounding it out.

Anyone else think Wheels overreacted to the revelation by the Asian girl?I don't know about overreacting, but he came across as a doooooosh. He only liked her because of her stutter? Talk about unraveling everything that the episode tried to say about getting past handicaps and differences. She didn't lie about the stutter for HIM, she'd been doing it for years. Bleah.

martinp13

11-12-2009, 08:59 AM

I have to admit, they got me at the end... I was in Shue's camp, that Sue was up to something. It's what she does, it's her nature. :) Awesome reveal and great acting... Lynch really is impressive: I really believe her when she acts.

ElJay

11-12-2009, 09:36 AM

Anyone else think Wheels overreacted to the revelation by the Asian girl?

I chuckled at that scene because his reaction was so absurd.

The preggo blonde cheerleader seriously needs to take a shotgun round to the face.

And now we know why the other blonde cheerleader who was hired for her dancing hadn't gotten any lines until now. :)

Awww... Quinn at least smiled a bit in this episode, that's a start. As for the other cheerleader, I think her name is Brittney. I laughed at being confused by recipes.

uncdrew

11-12-2009, 09:55 AM

uncdrew

11-12-2009, 09:56 AM

I'm sorry but although Kurt was good Rachel was amazing. But I was also thinking they were going to be sharing a duet.

Anyone else think Wheels overreacted to the revelation by the Asian girl?

Yup.

Everyone has problems in high school, and she was trusting him to tell him. Then he crapped all over it.

Plus, who knows when he'll get another kiss again.

uncdrew

11-12-2009, 10:29 AM

I'd also be happy if we didn't see students wearing their food anymore.

busyba

11-12-2009, 10:32 AM

Until he intentionally bungled the high F, I thought Kurt was trouncing Rachel in the diva-off.

Really? I didn't care for his voice all that much. It doesn't matter that he can hit the notes if he has to spend the entire song in head voice.

I'm sure he's a good singer, I'd just like to hear him sing something in a lower register where he'd be in a much more comfortable part of his range.

The pitch correction machine was in overdrive for that number though. Even for Rachel, which is odd since the actress had broadway chops and allegedly shouldn't need it, especially for a broadway number.

Anyone else think Wheels overreacted to the revelation by the Asian girl?

Oh yeah, big time.

I frequently get annoyed by some of the really stupid things the characters on the show do, but then I have to remind myself that they supposed to be 15-18 years old (don't get me started on how none of them read under 22 :)), so doing idiotic things is totally in character.

Then again, a lot of the alleged adult characters on the show do childishly idiotic things too, so go figure.

I like this show, but they need to do something about the fact that they have too many characters that are too unlikable.

busyba

11-12-2009, 10:35 AM

Yup.

Everyone has problems in high school, and she was trusting him to tell him. Then he crapped all over it.

Plus, who knows when he'll get another kiss again.

But at least we know that his junk is fully functioning. :D

I'm a little glad that the girl was faking her stutter though, because the stutter always sounded really badly faked to me and I just thought it was because the actress was bad at it. Now I can buy the rationalization that the actress was being deliberately bad at it. :)

wouldworker

11-12-2009, 10:47 AM

and I was REALLY glad that I didn't have to see or hear a single thing about Terri or Emma. Frankly, I could go the entire rest of the series without seeing either of them again.

Unfortunately, it looks like like I won't get my wish, after seeing the preview for next week. :(When the episode ended I told my wife, "This show isn't too bad when they don't show the fake-pregnant wife or the gym teacher or the chick who's in love with Shue. Maybe they figured out that those characters suck." Oh, well.

Langree

11-12-2009, 11:23 AM

jsmeeker

11-12-2009, 11:27 AM

Solid episode. Good character and story line development without anything stupid and distracting. There could have been a bit more singing. But at least Rachel got to sing pseudo-solo. I always like it when she sings. She's great.

cheerdude

11-12-2009, 11:28 AM

I'd also be happy if we didn't see students wearing their food anymore.

Lea Michele had mentioned on twitter that morning something like "If you though slushies were bad, just wait until tonight". Yep... she was right on that one.

cheerdude

11-12-2009, 11:30 AM

Dancing With Myself & Defying Gravity are on the volume 1 album... but Proud Mary is not (but is available as a separate single)

And after buying DWM & DG ... I really like DG; done as a duet/mix. DWM was "ok", there was a middle section that I didn't really care for.

DevdogAZ

11-12-2009, 11:35 AM

Until he intentionally bungled the high F, I thought Kurt was trouncing Rachel in the diva-off.
Totally disagree. Kurt was in falsetto and just sounded like he was straining the whole time, while Rachel was powerful and confident and just had a much more pleasing tone to her performance.
Anyone else think Wheels overreacted to the revelation by the Asian girl?
Definitely. I kind of understand the explanation, but it was still an overreaction.
Awww... Quinn at least smiled a bit in this episode, that's a start. As for the other cheerleader, I think her name is Brittney. I laughed at being confused by recipes.
She can read music and dance, but she can't read a recipe and doesn't know her right from her left? :rolleyes:
I'm a little glad that the girl was faking her stutter though, because the stutter always sounded really badly faked to me and I just thought it was because the actress was bad at it. Now I can buy the rationalization that the actress was being deliberately bad at it. :)
My wife is a speech therapist and she was constantly saying how unrealistic the stutter was, so it was nice to see that it was actually fake and hopefully we won't have to deal with it anymore.

stargazer21

11-12-2009, 11:57 AM

She can read music and dance, but she can't read a recipe and doesn't know her right from her left?

I know dancers like that. On some days, I'm certain I gave birth to one of them. ;)

I don't watch this show regularly, but I really loved this episode. I adored the diva-off and the story line between Kurt and his Dad.

LoadStar

11-12-2009, 11:59 AM

Totally disagree. Kurt was in falsetto and just sounded like he was straining the whole time, while Rachel was powerful and confident and just had a much more pleasing tone to her performance.

I don't believe that would be considered falsetto. Kurt/Chris Colfer is a countertenor, and that is at the upper level but still within his normal singing range.

Falsetto is when a singer pushes his/her voice into a range above the normal singing range.

She can read music and dance, but she can't read a recipe and doesn't know her right from her left? :rolleyes:
Who says she can read music? I know quite a few musicicans that can't read a lick of sheet music.

barbeedoll

11-12-2009, 12:24 PM

When the episode ended I told my wife, "This show isn't too bad when they don't show the fake-pregnant wife or the gym teacher or the chick who's in love with Shue. Maybe they figured out that those characters suck." Oh, well.

Didn't realize I felt that way until you said it, but you're right!

Barbeedoll

uncdrew

11-12-2009, 01:02 PM

Wheels reaction may have been a little over dramatic, but from the view of someone who truly has a disability and cannot hide it, it is who he is, he can not turn it off (the character), it can seen as insulting for someone to fake a condition, in this case it was just stuttering, but they did it to make a point.

I'm in the same boat, and I take issue when perfectly able bodied people use wheelchairs at theme parks so they can cut in line.

Fine point.

I appreciate and understand him being upset. Just seemed a bit too much. They did seem like buds again later in the show (during the wheelchair routine) so maybe he cools off.

There's obviously a bond there and I think there's more life in that storyline.

ElJay

11-12-2009, 02:44 PM

The pitch correction machine was in overdrive for that number though. Even for Rachel, which is odd since the actress had broadway chops and allegedly shouldn't need it, especially for a broadway number.

I know this has been discussed before in previous "Glee" threads, but I'd really appreciate it if the person who is producing these songs could stop going so overboard on the autotune. I realize the distortion effect of it has its use for certain songs, but the songs in this episode did not fall in that category. I cannot understand why Rachel would need the processing.

tewcewl

11-12-2009, 02:49 PM

Wow. That was an amazing episode. Whoever wrote that episode - make sure they write the entire rest of the series. Seriously.
Shouldn't be hard since Ryan Murphy (the creator) wrote it. :D

This was definitely one of my top favorite episodes of GLEE so far.

DevdogAZ

11-12-2009, 02:59 PM

I wonder if the writers/producers have heard the fan feedback about the pregnancy/fake pregnancy storylines and will start to extricate themselves from them? I'm sure there was some big elaborate plan for what would happen when Terri is supposed to be having the baby and for how Terri/Quinn would make Shue believe that Quinn's baby is really his. But they have to realize that as things have played out, those storylines are completely unnecessary and are actually taking away from people's enjoyment of the show. I wish they'd just have Terri come clean about lying and then have Quinn have a miscarriage. Not that I'd wish a miscarriage on anyone in real life, but it would be great if they'd just leave the ill-conceived pregnancy stuff behind and concentrate on the characters and the music.

wouldworker

11-12-2009, 03:06 PM

I know this has been discussed before in previous "Glee" threads, but I'd really appreciate it if the person who is producing these songs could stop going so overboard on the autotune. I realize the distortion effect of it has its use for certain songs, but the songs in this episode did not fall in that category. I cannot understand why Rachel would need the processing.A lot of people making music today think that that's what it should sound like. It's like gunshots in movies. They don't sound anything like real gunshots. If you put a real gunshot sound in a movie most people would think it sounds fake. Similarly, people think that unprocessed music sounds wrong and boring. They have been trained to like it loud and compressed. They also like it to sound the same when they hear it live as it sounds when they listen to the CD (or mp3). Basically, producers use autotune and compression because the listeners suck. Those of us who want to hear the actual performance are in the minority.

martinp13

11-12-2009, 05:19 PM

So, where did Quinn end up getting the $$$ for the sonogram? She refused Puck's money, and Finn won't clear ~$700 that fast at Olive Garden. Why isn't Mrs. Shue paying for it?

DevdogAZ

11-12-2009, 05:21 PM

So, where did Quinn end up getting the $$$ for the sonogram? She refused Puck's money, and Finn won't clear ~$700 that fast at Olive Garden. Why isn't Mrs. Shue paying for it?
Why isn't her parent's health insurance, or some state low-income insurance paying for it? It's completely unrealistic that the entire school knows about the pregnancy, it's been blogged about, and she's been kicked off the cheerleading team because of it, yet she's still somehow able to keep it from her parents?

jsmeeker

11-12-2009, 05:22 PM

Why isn't her parent's health insurance, or some state low-income insurance paying for it? It's completely unrealistic that the entire school knows about the pregnancy, it's been blogged about, and she's been kicked off the cheerleading team because of it, yet she's still somehow able to keep it from her parents?

yup.. that's the story line. :)

busyba

11-12-2009, 05:35 PM

I wish they'd just have Terri come clean about lying and then have Quinn have a miscarriage die in a grease fire.

FYP. :)

LoadStar

11-12-2009, 05:43 PM

I actually like the character of Quinn. I'm not sure that everything about the whole pregnancy plotline is completely believable (:D) but Quinn is an interesting character.

dolcevita

11-12-2009, 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=LooseWiring;7605112]I'm sorry but although Kurt was good Rachel was amazing. But I was also thinking they were going to be sharing a duet.
QUOTE]

I agree that Rachel was better than Kurt. Kurt did a good job, but there was a richer tone and more nuance in Rachel's performance.

I rewound to the diva-off and listend to it with my eyes closed to see whether I could tell when each of them were singing (I could) and that's when I really noticed the differences in their tones and started thinking how effective the duet would be.

atrac

11-12-2009, 06:52 PM

Wow. After a two week hiatus, this one really packed a punch. So much good stuff in this episode as you have already pointed out. :)

I still can't believe it's only 40 minutes -- they put so much into an episode that it feels like a lot longer time has passed (in a good way, mind you).

Jane Lynch should get an Emmy. Yes, her character is well written -- but I can't see anyone else playing the role as good as she does it. The ending scene with her was quite moving (I did not see it coming either) and it had me in tears.

DevdogAZ

11-12-2009, 06:59 PM

FYP. :)
I like the Quinn character. I hate the pregnancy story, but I think Quinn is interesting. The triangle between she and Finn and Puck is interesting. The tension between she and Sue Sylvester is interesting. The potential tension between she and Rachel as Finn becomes more interested in Rachel is interesting. I just don't care about the pregnancy.

busyba

11-12-2009, 07:05 PM

Sure, but what she's doing to Finn is utterly reprehensible. 4-or-5-times-in-the-face reprehensible.

Mikeyis4dcats

11-12-2009, 09:05 PM

Quinn is hot.

That is all.

marksman

11-12-2009, 09:35 PM

Funny, I felt quite the opposite. I felt Rachel was blowing away Curt the whole time. Rachel was signing with much more confidence, especially at the end.

Yeah I did too. Her voice is simply a lot stronger and smoother at the high end than his. Nothing wrong with him, but to me she was clearly stronger on that song, before the big note.

marksman

11-12-2009, 09:38 PM

I don't believe that would be considered falsetto. Kurt/Chris Colfer is a countertenor, and that is at the upper level but still within his normal singing range.

Falsetto is when a singer pushes his/her voice into a range above the normal singing range.

Who says she can read music? I know quite a few musicicans that can't read a lick of sheet music.

Paul Schaeffer can't read music.

DrZoidberg42

11-13-2009, 05:24 AM

And now we know why the other blonde cheerleader who was hired for her dancing hadn't gotten any lines until now. :)

She is now my favorite character on the show.

Swirl_Junkie

11-13-2009, 06:09 AM

So they're lacking funds to be able to rent a short bus. So what does Shue do? He goes out and buys a bunch of used wheelchairs? WTF?

Yeah,, considering most of those were at least $2000.00 chairs, highly unlikely.

wouldworker

11-13-2009, 09:39 AM

I agree that Rachel was better than Kurt. Kurt did a good job, but there was a richer tone and more nuance in Rachel's performance.Rachel is a great singer with a terrific voice. Kurt is also a great singer, but he's a mimic. I doubt that we ever get to hear his real voice. His singing is too affected.

DavidTigerFan

11-13-2009, 11:04 AM

I too am annoyed at all the food in the gags. I think after the 2nd slushie and first plate I'd have stood up and clocked the guy.

Robin

11-13-2009, 11:09 AM

Great ep! Loved the lack of the wife and Ms crazy eyes. Loved defying gravity.

pdhenry

11-13-2009, 11:20 AM

Until he intentionally bungled the high F, I thought Kurt was trouncing Rachel in the diva-off.It was good, but knowing how much they like Autotune I just couldn't trust that that was actually the actor's performance.

Sorry for being a broken record on that topic, BTW.

busyba

11-13-2009, 04:32 PM

Yeah,, considering most of those were at least $2000.00 chairs, highly unlikely.

Well, they did say that they got them used from a Senior Center, so it's entirely possible that they just boosted them. I mean, what are the seniors going to do, chase them down? :D

AJRitz

11-13-2009, 04:52 PM

Well, they did say that they got them used from a Senior Center, so it's entirely possible that they just boosted them. I mean, what are the seniors going to do, chase them down? :D

Not that I'm particularly worried about strict factual accuracy in what is clearly a "fantastic" (as in tilting toward fantasy) television show, but there are a lot of things that could make a wheelchair inappropriate for use by someone who actually has to use one, as opposed to as a prop for an otherwise able-bodied person. Problems with brakes come to mind. And for Medicaid patients, it may be cheaper in many cases to simply get a new wheelchair than to have a broken chair repaired.

debtoine

11-13-2009, 06:27 PM

Liked the episode a lot, for most of the reasons already posted. However, I didn't like Kurt's version of Defying Gravity. The falsetto was bad and even the iTunes version grates on my nerves.

I hope they get the baby daddy storyline over with quickly so they can get the fake pregnancy story wrapped too.

deb

JYoung

11-14-2009, 08:34 PM

Interestingly enough, Fox has been doing the Simpsons Scavenger Hunt this week.
The clue in this episode of Glee was that the Proud Mary number was in the style that Lisa did it on the Simpsons.

I'm going to say no, it was in the style of Ike and Tina Turner.

That Don Guy

11-14-2009, 11:59 PM

Actually, the Simpsons Scavenger Hunt question was:
"The glee club performs a Creedence Clearwater Revival song at the end of the episode. It is the same song that Lisa sings in the Little Miss Springfield Pageant in the Season 4 episode 'Lisa the Beauty Queen.' What is that song?"

-- Don

JYoung

11-15-2009, 06:38 PM

I was talking about the answer given at the beginning at Bones.

IndyJones1023

11-16-2009, 08:42 AM

I agree, this show is much better without the "pregnant" wife. They can't write her off the show quick enough. Ditto to the Quinn pregnancy story line. I can't wait until it's revealed that it's not Finn's baby. I mean, at some point wouldn't he say to someone with half a brain "I still can't believe she got pregnant in the hot tub." It actually angers me when she's yelling at him.

And no way was Kurt better than Rachel. Not by a long shot. That girl has Broadway in her DNA. But I, too, thought it would wind up a duet. That's the kind of twist that this show is building on. But they dropped the ball.

And Artie getting mad at the Asian chick for the stutter reveal - seriously? He's going to turn her down over a fake stutter? Does not compute.

Also, I thought Shue said something about getting the wheelchairs borrowed from someplace. He didn't buy them.

laria

11-16-2009, 08:56 AM

So, where did Quinn end up getting the $$$ for the sonogram? She refused Puck's money, and Finn won't clear ~$700 that fast at Olive Garden. Why isn't Mrs. Shue paying for it?

I didn't get the impression that it had been paid for at all yet.

Why isn't her parent's health insurance, or some state low-income insurance paying for it?
Because the whole storyline is that she hasn't told her parents that she's pregnant. When I was that age I had no idea what insurance we had, and even if I did, I certainly wouldn't be charging prenatal visits to it if my goal was to keep it a secret from my parents. :)

Robin

11-16-2009, 03:41 PM

He said he bought the chairs at a tag sale at the senior center.

DevdogAZ

11-16-2009, 03:44 PM

He said he bought the chairs at a tag sale at the senior center.
I heard that, but didn't know what a "tag sale" was. But ultimately, he spent money for that stunt, when he was asking his students to hold a bake sale to raise money. Seemed bassackwards to me.

IndyJones1023

11-16-2009, 03:49 PM

I don't know what a "tag sale" is either.

gchance

11-16-2009, 04:01 PM

Tag Sale (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+%22tag+sale%22)

Greg

IndyJones1023

11-16-2009, 04:08 PM

:rolleyes:

laria

11-16-2009, 05:52 PM

I don't know what a "tag sale" is either.

It's a yard sale basically.

ebockelman

11-17-2009, 09:14 PM

Dancing With Myself & Defying Gravity are on the volume 1 album... but Proud Mary is not (but is available as a separate single)

It's on the second CD, which releases next month.

plowsterbabe

11-17-2009, 10:03 PM

I don't know what a "tag sale" is either.

The only time I've ever heard "tag sale" before was when I lived in New England....so it caught me offguard when I heard that. WHen I lived in the Midwest, these sorts of things were almost always called "Garage Sales."

LoadStar

11-17-2009, 10:21 PM

The only time I've ever heard "tag sale" before was when I lived in New England....so it caught me offguard when I heard that. WHen I lived in the Midwest, these sorts of things were almost always called "Garage Sales."

I'd say "garage sale" or "rummage sale" would be about equal in the midwest; "yard sale" would be somewhat less common, but still used enough. I know what a tag sale is, but I've _never_ heard anyone use that term here.