Fringe 10/8

[spikedavis]

What a truly awesome episode. Way to step up the A game. I loved the small glimpse of Peter's heritage the old broad caught.

[classicX]

Wow. What a great episode.

Was that Ralph Fiennes?

[5thcrewman]

Theresa Russell!
Where are they digging up these people?

[bryhamm]

Great ep!

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I really enjoyed this. I wonder if Peter's heritage will have a role to play in the storm.

Was that Latin that Bell told to Olivia to repeat to Peter? Anyone know what it means?

[cheesesteak]

Charlie kicked the living crap out of Olivia and she walks away without a scratch? Other than that, a great ep.

[classicX]

Charlie kicked the living crap out of Olivia and she walks away without a scratch? Other than that, a great ep.

She has powers now, remember?

[spikedavis]

I really enjoyed this. I wonder if Peter's heritage will have a role to play in the storm.

Was that Latin that Bell told to Olivia to repeat to Peter? Anyone know what it means?

I'm sure that Peter's abduction years ago is the catalyst for all of this and the "Other" Walter is the one waging the war.

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I'm sure that Peter's abduction years ago is the catalyst for all of this and the "Other" Walter is the one waging the war.

Interesting, some thought like that briefly crossed my mind but it was more of, I wonder what Walter's alter is doing and if he knows Peter was abducted by him in another universe.

[jeetkunedo]

Was that Latin that Bell told to Olivia to repeat to Peter? Anyone know what it means?
It's actually Greek: Na einai kalytero anthropo apo ton patera toy

Which roughly translates to: May he be a better person than his father.

:)

[rgr]

It's actually Greek: Na einai kalytero anthropo apo ton patera toy

Which roughly translates to: May he be a better person than his father.

:)
Yes. Covered in the first episode of this season when Olivia was in the hospital.

Peter's mother used to say it to him before he went to bed.
"be a better man than your father" as a code for taking care of the people you care about.

[spikedavis]

Yes. Covered in the first episode of this season when Olivia was in the hospital.

Peter's mother used to say it to him before he went to bed.
"be a better man than your father" as a code for taking care of the people you care about.

And it seems that Bell knows that-I guess that Peter's mom is still alive Over There....

[nirisahn]

I never even thought about the alternate world Walter.

[spikedavis]

Interesting, some thought like that briefly crossed my mind but it was more of, I wonder what Walter's alter is doing and if he knows Peter was abducted by him in another universe.

If your son was kidnapped by your doppelganger from another universe-and you were brilliant mad scientist-wouldn't your anger make you do anything to get him back?

[gchance]

Wow. What a great episode.

Was that Ralph Fiennes?

It looked like Sebastian Roche to me.
http://images.buddytv.com/articles/Image/General-Hospital/Sebastian-Roche-profile.jpg

If the rest of the series is like this, I have a new favorite show. I liked it before, but WOW. This was Fringe's "Walkabout". :)

OK a couple stupid observations.

- They're calling it the First Wave, so I guess Curtis was a Gua after all!
- Walter's a Yes fan, but he doesn't care much for Your Move. :)
- Physics is a bitch.

Greg

[dianebrat]

Interesting, some thought like that briefly crossed my mind but it was more of, I wonder what Walter's alter is doing and if he knows Peter was abducted by him in another universe.

I never even thought about the alternate world Walter.

If your son was kidnapped by your doppelganger from another universe-and you were brilliant mad scientist-wouldn't your anger make you do anything to get him back?

I agree, I'd completely overlooked the other Walter, but wow does that make sense, I'm totally hooked on that theory now.

Diane

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I agree, I'd completely overlooked the other Walter, but wow does that make sense, I'm totally hooked on that theory now.

Diane

Yeah, it does kinda make sense why this world's Walter easily understands the Fringe science behind these cases. His alter is coming up with it, so it's kind of like something he *could* have come up with.

[nyny523]

Just watched this episode - this show is da BOMB!!!

Definitely one of my favorites! :up:

[eddyj]

this show is da BOMB!!!
Only when people's heads blow up.


Which, admittedly, is every other episode!

[Anubys]

great show...

only annoyance is that I could tell who the shape shifter was on the computer when it was at 60%...shouldn't an FBI person have done so as well?

I know, I knew who it was already so it was easy for me to see it...but you didn't need to get to 100% to do the match the way the dots were filled...

minor quibble, I know...

[nyny523]

great show...

only annoyance is that I could tell who the shape shifter was on the computer when it was at 60%...shouldn't an FBI person have done so as well?

I know, I knew who it was already so it was easy for me to see it...but you didn't need to get to 100% to do the match the way the dots were filled...

minor quibble, I know...

We knew, but they did not. And that would have been one of the last people Olivia would have expected it to be, so it's not like it would have immediately registered...

[cheesesteak]

I agree, I'd completely overlooked the other Walter, but wow does that make sense, I'm totally hooked on that theory now.
I always have a problem with alternate universes with the same cast of characters. Drives me nuts.

[tewcewl]

I always have a problem with alternate universes with the same cast of characters. Drives me nuts.
Why?

[BitbyBlit]

only annoyance is that I could tell who the shape shifter was on the computer when it was at 60%...shouldn't an FBI person have done so as well?

I was more annoyed by the fact that once they found out that what they thought was the shapeshifter's body was the real nurse's, they should have realized that the real Charlie who fired his gun at the shapeshifter would have known that the shapeshifter got away. Thus, the only other possibility was that Charlie was the shapeshifter.

I suppose maybe they thought that Charlie killed the real nurse by accident, but given the history of the shapeshifter's actions, I don't know why they would have thought the shapeshifter would have left her alive to run around.

At the very least, they should have been suspicious of Charlie.

[spikedavis]

Yeah, it does kinda make sense why this world's Walter easily understands the Fringe science behind these cases. His alter is coming up with it, so it's kind of like something he *could* have come up with.

And consider this-Over There the technology is slightly advanced. Our Walter was in a mental asylum for 2 decades while theirs was probably inventing stuff that entire time to get his son back.

[Rob Helmerichs]

And consider this-Over There the technology is slightly advanced. Our Walter was in a mental asylum for 2 decades while theirs was probably inventing stuff that entire time to get his son back.
Yeah, I've been trying to imagine a sane, evil Walter out to get our world. And the thought blows a fuse in my brain.

[eddyj]

At the very least, they should have been suspicious of Charlie.
Yeah, this really bugged me, at the time. He should have been put under the microscope, at that point.

[gchance]

Yeah, I've been trying to imagine a sane, evil Walter out to get our world. And the thought blows a fuse in my brain.

It's entirely possible Over There's Walter is perfectly sane. Then again, Over Here's Insane Walter stole Over There Normal Walter's son, which could make Over There's Sane Walter into Over There's Insane Walter.

Greg

[5thcrewman]

It's entirely possible Over There's Walter is perfectly sane. Then again, Over Here's Insane Walter stole Over There Normal Walter's son, which could make Over There's Sane Walter into Over There's Insane Walter.

Greg

You just blew my mind

[Rob Helmerichs]

Then again, Over Here's Insane Walter stole Over There Normal Walter's son...
I'm pretty sure that's before he went nuts...

[vikingguy]

Simply awesome is all I can say. I am so happy they did not drag out the memory loss all season.

[steve614]

I wonder if Olivia is going to be wary of bells in the future.
One false ring and off she goes to the other side. :p
(Or was that just a one time thing only?)

[stellie93]

I was trying to convince a friend who had watched about half of the first season that this would be a good ep to watch to get back into it. I told him about the shape shifters coming over because regular people couldn't do it easily, and he asked if the bald guy--the watcher--was one of them. I was stumped. I don't remember what ever happened with that guy, but we haven't seen him this year, have we? He seemed like a good guy in contrast with the visitors from this season. Help! :confused:

[spikedavis]

I was trying to convince a friend who had watched about half of the first season that this would be a good ep to watch to get back into it. I told him about the shape shifters coming over because regular people couldn't do it easily, and he asked if the bald guy--the watcher--was one of them. I was stumped. I don't remember what ever happened with that guy, but we haven't seen him this year, have we? He seemed like a good guy in contrast with the visitors from this season. Help! :confused:

The Observer simply watches-he seems to be impartial to either side-but always knows what and where something important is going to happen.

[hummingbird_206]

Adrenalin to the heart made me think Pulp Fiction. Olivia even resembles Uma, well, except for foaming at the mouth.:D

[gchance]

I'm pretty sure that's before he went nuts...

Most definitely, and I'm imagining the point when we actually run into Over There's Insane Walter, mostly to see John Noble kick ass in EVIL mad scientist mode.

Oh that made me think of something else. People seem to be looking at this "war" all being related to Walter kidnapping Over There Walter's son, but... wouldn't that mean the entire universe on that side is built around this one event? Or maybe Over There Walter is still working with Over There William Bell.

Speaking of which, Over Here William Bell has been hanging out in the Over There World Trade Center. Where's Over There William Bell?

Greg

[Tsiehta]

I was trying to convince a friend who had watched about half of the first season that this would be a good ep to watch to get back into it. I told him about the shape shifters coming over because regular people couldn't do it easily, and he asked if the bald guy--the watcher--was one of them. I was stumped. I don't remember what ever happened with that guy, but we haven't seen him this year, have we? He seemed like a good guy in contrast with the visitors from this season. Help! :confused:

He was in at least two scenes in the past two episodes this season.

[NoThru22]

The Observer is definitely working for the other side. Last episode they revealed that the men carrying the brief cases were carrying information for him to bring to the other side.

[gchance]

My wife just got back from being gone all weekend, and I told her, "Fringe was the best episode they've had so far."

When it was done her eyes got big, she looked at me, and said, "You were right."

Greg

[Anubys]

The Observer is definitely working for the other side. Last episode they revealed that the men carrying the brief cases were carrying information for him to bring to the other side.

he and Walter know each other...lending credence to the "Other Walter Theory"...

but that doesn't explain why our food is so bland or why he acts this way...he seems more alien than human from the other side...

[scooterboy]

If Over There Walter is a driven strong-minded never-committed scientist and they show him in upcoming episodes it will be great fun to see John Noble play both parts, each with very different personalities.

[MickeS]

Very good episode.

Did anyone notice that Nina Sharp's assistant was played by Anna Van Hooft from the short-lived (too short-lived if you ask me) "Flash Gordon" series on Sci-Fi? I guess she's OK with just being one step above an extra. Too bad, she's nice to look at. :)

[Craigbob]

I wonder if Olivia is going to be wary of bells in the future.
One false ring and off she goes to the other side. :p
(Or was that just a one time thing only?)

Actually I think the bell just put her into a state where she would fully remember her trip over to the other universe.

[obixman]

Hmm - as far as I can tell there is an easy way to tell the shape shifters...

Weigh them.

Seriously - if 40% of thier blood is Mercury, that's about 2.5 liters.

And 2.5 liters of Mercury is seriously heavy. A flask of Mercury (2.5 liters) is about 75 pounds.

Easy to tell them from us - shapeshifters beware.

[barbeedoll]

Over Here William Bell has been hanging out in the Over There World Trade Center. Where's Over There William Bell?

Greg[/QUOTE]

I thought that was the head that they found and attached at the end of the episode. He had come over himself to check things out.

It didn't look like Leonard Nimroy, but he had shape-shifted. Just a theory.

Barbeedoll

[Bierboy]

I get the feeling that Fringe is almost moving too fast (if that's possible)...wow....great stuff...

[gchance]

I get the feeling that Fringe is almost moving too fast (if that's possible)...wow....great stuff...

I don't think so. I'm fully expecting to now have "status quo" episodes until November sweeps, when we'll have another episode like this one.

Greg