Will there be a new tivo with 4 tuners soon?

[moyekj]

NO CRAPPY STREAMING CLIENT. Just let me download it and use the far superior built-in player. All the pieces are in place, RSS/Podcasts do this already. Just give us some integration in the user interface to make it easier to find and select them for downloading. That'd pretty much kill any need for additional tuners, for all but the most extreme edge cases. The problem is TiVo decoders can only play back limited formats. So transcoding to a compatible format really has to be part of solution which means it can't be done natively all on Tivo - you need some help from a PC/server to do transcoding.
You can use 3rd party applications already to do what you want such as pyTivo and/or HME/VLC, streambaby albeit not as conveniently/easily as if it were integrated into Tivo, but at least those solutions do transcoding for you if it is needed.
Bottom line is the S3 Tivos do not really make for good general purpose media players because of the limited subset of formats they can decode.

[wkearney99]

If Tivo wants to present it's audience of customers to content providers then it ought to understand what the customers (that's us) want out of it. We'll not tolerate the streaming crap, no matter what "bargain" they strike for it. The Tivo actually represents one of the more secure systems and can readily protect the content from redistribution. As to whether the customers will tolerate this, that's another matter. I've downloaded a couple of Amazon movies and not had any of them expire. I don't know if that's common, but I've watched a few of them more than once. I don't think I'd be inclined to purchase any if they stuck me with a limited timeframe for viewing.

As for transcoding, clearly the content publishers (like netflix, blockbuster, amazon, etc) grasp the value of having that done on the server-side. True, there's lots of content out there that's in other formats. But it's a bit ridiculous to think it's an all-or-nothing proposition. Some content already in the 'right' formats would be a great starting point. Demand may be able to build a case for transcoding others.

[bicker]

If Tivo wants to present it's audience of customers to content providers then it ought to understand what the customers (that's us) want out of it. We'll not tolerate the streaming crap, no matter what "bargain" they strike for it. That's a ridiculous assertion, unless you meant to use the word "I" instead of "we", or perhaps you meant to use the term "me and my friends" instead of "we". The typical consumer is maniacally driven by price, and wouldn't care that much about the distinction between streaming and a download transfer.

[lew]

If Tivo wants to present it's audience of customers to content providers then it ought to understand what the customers (that's us) want out of it. We'll not tolerate the streaming crap, no matter what "bargain" they strike for it. .


Netflix streams. Doesn't Youtube stream? Customers want content. We prefer content that's downloaded but we'll certainly tolerate streaming if that's the only way to get conent we want to watch.

[ZeoTiVo]

I don't think I'd be inclined to purchase any if they stuck me with a limited timeframe for viewing.

99% of amazon content has a 30 day expiry with a 24 hour viewing window that starts when you fist look at the first second of the video. Blockbuster follows the same pattern and both are because content owners require they do so for downloads. You really should read up on what you want to argue about.

[dbutts]

Does TIVO have any plans for doing a multi-room device like Moxi? i.e., Main tivo unit in one room and satellite tivo unit in another room(s) that pulls from the main. I personally don't need to have 2 or more full Tivo units when I watch the same shows regardless of what room I'm in.

I love tivo. Had them for over 10 years but I like the Moxi idea (3 tuners + moxi mate)

[aaronwt]

Only Moxi only gives you one choice for service, Lifetime or nothing. tiVo gives you more options. If I was forced to only have lifetime service, I would not have nine TiVos.

[bkdtv]

Only Moxi only gives you one choice for service, Lifetime or nothing. tiVo gives you more options. If I was forced to only have lifetime service, I would not have nine TiVos.While that is true, Moxi's lifetime service also costs less.

If you figure $250 as the base price for the DVR, then Moxi's price for lifetime is $249. TiVo's price for lifetime is $299-$399, depending on whether you are new or existing customer.

If you value the Moxi's 500GB drive at another $50, then they charge just $200 for lifetime. If you value the TiVo at more than $250 because of its OTA tuners, then lifetime rates are more competitive.

[dbutts]

its not so much the lifetime service as the multi room viewing. I see lots of people talking about tivo hd giving MRV, but how do you do it w/o a separate hd tivo?

[innocentfreak]

You do it with some type of extender like the Moxi Mate with the Moxi or the Xbox 360 with Windows 7.