True Blood S02E11 "Frenzy" 30 August 2009 [Text View]

Amnesia

08-31-2009, 09:29 AM

OK, I love the series, but it seems like nothing happened this episode.

Last episode, lots happened: Tara was (temporarily) saved, Sam was saved, Sookie, Bill and Maryann rumbled a bit.

This episode:Jason and Andy got to Maryann's...I mean Sookie's house.
Sookie and Lafayette got to Sookie's house.

Umm...that's about it.

dimented

08-31-2009, 09:32 AM

I really dislike this plot. I will be glad when it is over. It just is not doing anything for me. I thought last nights episode was boring, and I really love this show.

About the only good parts for me was Jason and Andy talking in the pick up truck.

goblue97

08-31-2009, 09:34 AM

About the only good parts for me was Jason and Andy talking in the pick up truck.
The question about the chicken and the egg was great!

spikedavis

08-31-2009, 09:35 AM

Granted a lot didn't "happen" in this episode, overall but I still really loved it. I loved seeing the Queen; Sookie's trip through her house was nightmarish and I loved seeing Lafayette front and center-even though he got turned at the end. :(

spikedavis

08-31-2009, 09:36 AM

The question about the chicken and the egg was great!

And the dog! I love that Sam reveals his secret to them and all Jason can think about is the obscene possibilities.

NatasNJ

08-31-2009, 09:37 AM

Can't wait for Maryanne storyline to be OVER!

Hopefully she will be gone this next episode and Sookie and Bill will celebrate by getting it on. :)

Shaunnick

08-31-2009, 10:00 AM

It was a setup episode. The pieces were being moved into place. A bit of a letdown, but I was still happy to see the queen. And Andy and Jason were great. Eric and Pam talking about the children was great. I now hate Lettie Mae and her goofy ass. And I hate Tara more than ever. I wanted Sookie to throw something and hit her in the head.

pjenkins

08-31-2009, 10:06 AM

was the worst episode of the series, but I still enjoyed it well enough, and figure they are just setting it all up for the finale. i don't have a good feeling about Sam's fate though, I think they (eric/bill) are going to use him to get rid of Mary Ann.

Test

08-31-2009, 10:16 AM

Amnesia

08-31-2009, 10:22 AM

They probably just want us to think that, but we all know (at least I think) Sookie is the real vessel.That's my feeling as well. I don't know if Bill realized it when the Queen told him though. But how come Maryann didn't realize it when she sliced into Sookie's back?

And there's a possible explanation in the books for Sookie's power over MaryAnn
she's part fairy
but it hasn't been raised in the series and it seems a little late to be bringing it up now...

goblue97

08-31-2009, 10:24 AM

The worst part about last night's epsiode was the end when it said "In two weeks."

Amnesia

08-31-2009, 10:25 AM

Did they? That sucks.

aindik

08-31-2009, 10:27 AM

So, um, WTF was the giant Egg?

Why are Sookie and Lafayette so stupid as to not realize that Mary Anne can't be shot and/or that she'd easily be able to hypnotize Lafayette just as easily as she had Tara?

And, Menads exist because they think they exist? What was that supposed to mean?

aindik

08-31-2009, 10:27 AM

The worst part about last night's epsiode was the end when it said "In two weeks."

Yeah, HBO is taking the Labor Day weekend off. All three of their current shows are off next week.

5thcrewman

08-31-2009, 10:51 AM

Hello Little Humans

Eric can fly!

mrdazzo7

08-31-2009, 10:53 AM

I liked the episode--the episode before a finale is almost *always* set-up. You can't watch it and say "nothing happened" because the payoffs will be in the next episode. Anyway I can half-understand Tara's decision to go back to the house, but I don't get Sookie and Lafayette going after her. The writers made them look like morons thinking they could just shoot Maryanne. I'm just going with it because I think the writers needed a way to get all the characters at the house and unfortunately that was the only way they could do it. I like that they're playing out Lafayette's traumatization. I think shows skip over that stuff too often.

I felt like Sam's conversation with Arlene's kids about their father was set-up for something. I found it kind of random. I'm betting he was/is a werewolf, and they're part. Gotta feel bad for Hoyt too. First his girlfriend tries to eat his mother, then his mother tells him his father committed suicide instead of heroically saving the family from a robber. That had to sting.

Did I miss something with Sookie's cousin? I saw the "previously on" bit where Sookie mentions she ran away from rehab, but that was it. When she asked Bill how Sookie was doing, Bill didn't seem remotely surprised. I found that whole thing to be odd.

astrohip

08-31-2009, 10:58 AM

Ditto on the 'nothing happening" episode. Especially after the last few weeks of amazing episodes followed by even more amazing episodes. It was almost a let-down, but it was also clear this was a setup for the finale, so I can live with that.

Yeah, enough of MaryAnn. Time to move on . . .

Jason gets the best lines:

"Do you think Sam has ever turned into a dog and then had sex with a lady dog?"

"I wonder if Sam could turn into a chicken and lay his own egg?"

And my personal favorite:
"Andy, they may be rednecks and dumb asses, but they're still Americans!"

ronsch

08-31-2009, 11:37 AM

ronsch

08-31-2009, 11:39 AM

They probably just want us to think that, but we all know (at least I think) Sookie is the real vessel.

Agreed. I would be shocked if Maryanne didn't switch her plans from Sam to Sookie.

ronsch

08-31-2009, 11:40 AM

ronsch

08-31-2009, 11:41 AM

So, um, WTF was the giant Egg?

Maybe Sam turned into an Ostrich for a while...:D

heySkippy

08-31-2009, 12:11 PM

Nice setup episode.

The plot with Maryann has been fun this season, now it's time for her to go.

gossamer88

08-31-2009, 12:14 PM

Anyone else had a problem with Evan Rachel Wood (mis)cast as the Queen? I've never read the books, but I feel they should have found someone with more bite. :rolleyes:

spikedavis

08-31-2009, 12:36 PM

From what I'm assuming here...Sookie's cousin probally blabbed to the Queen that Sookie had physic powers. The Queen sent Bill to obtain Sookie...

LooseWiring

08-31-2009, 01:35 PM

From what I'm assuming here...Sookie's cousin probally blabbed to the Queen that Sookie had physic powers. The Queen sent Bill to obtain Sookie...

And, according to the books, you'd be right.

Amnesia

08-31-2009, 01:38 PM

From what I'm assuming here...Sookie's cousin probally blabbed to the Queen that Sookie had physic powers. The Queen sent Bill to obtain Sookie...It certainly did seem like the Queen knew a lot about her...

Cearbhaill

08-31-2009, 02:45 PM

So, um, WTF was the giant Egg?
Found this little tidbit- MaryAnn's chant of "Lo lo Bromios, lo lo Dendrites, lo lo Enorches"
Well in Greek mythology Enorches was was born from an egg.

Also found Maxine's words to Hoyt a bit odd, to say the least- "Maryann will remember this day for the rest of her life. I don't have the heart to tell her it's all downhill from here, 'cause there ain't a woman alive who'd go through with it if she knew the truth." She then goes on to list all the things she missed out on by having had a child.
Is she saying MaryAnn will be sorry she produces/hatches/conjures up something akin to a child?

Loved Eric and his "teacup human" observations.
Hate Tara more than ever. I don't care what sort of influence she is under, I would have a very difficult time forgiving her for destroying my home.

The Jason and Andy bits were great- Jason's mind just never stops :D

Amnesia

08-31-2009, 03:03 PM

Hate Tara more than ever. I don't care what sort of influence she is under, I would have a very difficult time forgiving her for destroying my home.That's what would bother you? Sorry, but she is under supernatural influence. You can't blame her for that.

What you can blame her for is getting her mom to hold you at gunpoint. That's not cool.

IDSmoker

08-31-2009, 03:45 PM

Hello Little Humans
Eric <in creepy paedo voice>: Don't you like vampires, little girl?
Girl: Our almost stepdaddy hated vampires... but we don't.
Boy: He went on a vacation with Jesus.
Pam: You make me so happy I never had any of you.

Eric: Teacup humans!

Pam: Please get those horrible things out of here. I'll be smelling them for a week.
<Eric smiles>
yep, along with Andy and Jason's conversation in the truck, the only good scenes in what was otherwise the most boring episode of this season (still better than anything else currently on tv).

and then to make us wait 2 weeks for the payoff? :mad:

Did I miss something with Sookie's cousin? I saw the "previously on" bit where Sookie mentions she ran away from rehab, but that was it. When she asked Bill how Sookie was doing, Bill didn't seem remotely surprised. I found that whole thing to be odd.
This was setup for a couple of future storylines, if Ball decides to follow the books in those directions. I think we've seen the last of the cousin for this season though.

aindik

08-31-2009, 06:27 PM

Found this little tidbit- MaryAnn's chant of "Lo lo Bromios, lo lo Dendrites, lo lo Enorches"
Well in Greek mythology Enorches was was born from an egg.

Speaking of that. The zombie singing "lo lo bromios" to the tune of "row row row your boat" made me LOL.

Can someone post in plain English the Queen's explanation for what a Menad is and wants?

BobB

09-01-2009, 07:03 AM

So, um, WTF was the giant Egg?

I had the feeling it was something to do with Tara and Eggs (how DID he get that name, eh?). But seriously: Maryanne was always trying to get them to screw - and OK, she's always trying to get EVERYONE to screw, but those two were a special case. Didn't she punish her valet for keeping them from going to bed together in one of the earliest scenes at her previous house? I think it's been somehow produced, or facilitated, or somehow helped into being by their sexual energy. And they're there in the room when we first see it.

goblue97

09-01-2009, 07:26 AM

Can someone post in plain English the Queen's explanation for what a Menad is and wants?
Thank you. I was afraid to ask. :o

Shaunnick

09-01-2009, 07:43 AM

I had the feeling it was something to do with Tara and Eggs (how DID he get that name, eh?). But seriously: Maryanne was always trying to get them to screw - and OK, she's always trying to get EVERYONE to screw, but those two were a special case. Didn't she punish her valet for keeping them from going to bed together in one of the earliest scenes at her previous house? I think it's been somehow produced, or facilitated, or somehow helped into being by their sexual energy. And they're there in the room when we first see it.

Maybe one of them is a shifter, and laid their own egg. :)

zordude

09-01-2009, 08:03 AM

Can someone post in plain English the Queen's explanation for what a Menad is and wants?

What I got from it is that they want to summon their god, have sex with it, and be devoured (killed) by it.

Z

heySkippy

09-01-2009, 08:26 AM

I had the feeling it was something to do with Tara and Eggs (how DID he get that name, eh?).
His name is Benedict. "Eggs" Benedict. :)

Cearbhaill

09-01-2009, 09:35 AM

His name is Benedict. "Eggs" Benedict. :)
Well yeah.
But you have to admit that the coincidence of the nickname and the presence of a big giant egg in the bed he's been using is a bit too much to be accidental.

Amnesia

09-01-2009, 09:53 AM

Well yeah.
But you have to admit that the coincidence of the nickname and the presence of a big giant egg in the bed he's been using is a bit too much to be accidental.And let's not forget Jason's chicken-and-egg question. That can't be a coincidence either, right?

mwhip

09-01-2009, 09:57 AM

Shaunnick

09-01-2009, 10:07 AM

Still don't know why this show keeps employing such bad female actors (Anna Paquin, Rutina Wesley, Michelles Forbes and now Evan Rachel Wood). Good thing the guys on here are so good to make up for it.

I wouldn't call Michelle Forbes and Evan Rachel Wood bad actresses. Evan Rachel Wood has barely had a chance to show what she can do with this character, and unless you are someone who read the books and have an idea of what the Queen should be, I don't know if anyone can claim she has been miscast. I think Forbes is great as Maryanne. No complaint there.

As to Anna Paquin and Rutina Wesley, well, Anna Paquin is one of those actresses who get more praise than they deserve. I don't know what it is about her but she is just so flat for me. Rutina Wesley, I have seen her interviewed, and she seems like a pretty cool girl, unlike Tara who is an absolute bitch. So I give her props for totally making me hate a character, but she needs to work on that accent.

heySkippy

09-01-2009, 11:20 AM

I think the woman who plays Tara is actually quite a good actress. She's just playing an unlikeable character.

Amnesia

09-01-2009, 11:23 AM

I think the woman who plays Tara is actually quite a good actress. At the beginning of the episode, with her "true love" speech, I thought she did a very good job. As black-eyed Tara, not so much...

busyba

09-01-2009, 02:50 PM

They probably just want us to think that, but we all know (at least I think) Sookie is the real vessel.

No, the vessel with the pessel holds the pellet with the poison, the chalice from the palace holds the brew that is true. :p

Rob Helmerichs

09-01-2009, 09:48 PM

I wouldn't call Michelle Forbes and Evan Rachel Wood bad actresses.
They're both good. And Forbes is good in this show.

Wood, I think, isn't taking it seriously enough. I think most of the actors on this show know that to do good camp, you have to really play it straight. (The scenes with Andy and Jason are a good example--Andy looks like he's playing dumb, and Jason looks like he's dumb.) Wood acts like she knows it's camp, which is deadly.

mrmike

09-02-2009, 09:07 AM

Wiki link for those who can't spell Maenad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maenad) :D

I have to be honest. Last night walking through the house was the first time this show has really creeped me. The townspeople are starting to get to me. I'm sorta glad this storyline is wrapping up.

I'm disappointed with the twist of Jessica and Hoyt. They're different enough from the novels that I have no idea where they're going to go with that one.

I liked the queen. She has the right affect for someone who's been alive that long (IMNSHO). I'm looking forward to seeing more of her.

No, the vessel with the pessel holds the pellet with the poison, the chalice from the palace holds the brew that is true. :p

No, no, no. The flagon with the dragon has the pellet with the poison. The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true.

voripteth

09-02-2009, 09:28 AM

I was a bit disappointed with how they reacted when Taras mom threatened the with a bolt action 22. As soon as she fired the warning shot the gun was harmless yet they kept flinching. All of the characters have experience with guns. (this is the south after all ;)

Amnesia

09-02-2009, 10:10 AM

I liked the queen. She has the right affect for someone who's been alive that long (IMNSHO).Don't you mean "IANAV"?

pex

09-02-2009, 11:09 AM

Not to be a wet blanket, but this episode left me cold. I wasn't crazy about the previous one either.

I know several folks didn't care for the Dallas storyline and were chomping at the bit for a return to Bon Temps. However, I am worried I have already seen the "as good as it gets" portion of the series.

To me, camp is similar to animation in that it has a short half-life. I can really, really, enjoy it for a while, but then the absurdities keep forcing me out of the "viewing experience," and I eventually tire of it. Hopefully that isn't the case with True Blood because, whining aside, I still think it's one of the best shows currently on television.

Anubys

09-07-2009, 10:18 AM

I agree this was a good setup for the Finale...

what annoys me, though, is that Sookie seems to have totally lost the ability to read minds...very convenient for the plot to advance, but totally stupid...Sookie would have easily known what Tara's mom was planning, for example...

Amnesia

09-07-2009, 11:01 AM

what annoys me, though, is that Sookie seems to have totally lost the ability to read minds...Sookie can read minds---but she's not always reading everything that everyone is thinking all the time.

It's like you might be able to hear, but that doesn't mean you're listening to all the conversations going on in a restaurant. Yes, sometimes you can't help but to overhear, but usually you're just aware that people are talking without really knowing what they're saying (unless you pay attention)...

Rob Helmerichs

09-07-2009, 11:01 AM

what annoys me, though, is that Sookie seems to have totally lost the ability to read minds...very convenient for the plot to advance, but totally stupid...Sookie would have easily known what Tara's mom was planning, for example...
She COULD have known, but she had no real reason to read her mind. And we know it's something she avoids when she can.