View Full Version : Anyone else catch Pawn Stars on the History channel?
WhiskeyTango
07-27-2011, 10:12 AM
These guys aren't good enough at acting to pull off the fake bits and it's painfully obvious.
Does anyone believe that Chumlee really bought that mandolin for $1,500?
Yeah, he kinda faked yelled for Cory or Rick around the corner.. "sorry, nobody's here". Yeah, right they aren't.
Fool Me Twice
07-27-2011, 12:02 PM
These fake scenarios are really starting to make me dislike these shows.
I LOVED them when they started, but now. Ugh.
American Restoration is the worst. I can't even watch it. The Pickers guys are better, but they're little vingnettes tend to be less corny.
scooterboy
07-27-2011, 03:06 PM
American Restoration is the worst. I can't even watch it. The Pickers guys are better, but they're little vingnettes tend to be less corny.
Disagree. Rick's son deserves an EMMY.
An EMMY, I tell you!
Not anymore than Cory traded one of those posters for free framing, or that the guy wanted the poster so bad he'd frame the others for free.
+1
or that the Old Man sold the other poster -- <cynicism>I had no idea there was that much demand for old pawn shop themed movie posters that no one's heard of </cynicism>
Its getting almost as bad as that repo show on truTV.
Gregor
07-31-2011, 08:31 AM
Does anyone believe that Chumlee really bought that mandolin for $1,500?
I would bet he bought it off camera and they decided to recreate it.
JFriday
07-31-2011, 10:01 AM
Only if you think someone that works for a Pawn shop would blindly pay for an item he knows nothing about. And suddenly everyone else in the shop disappeared.
I really want to buy that rainbow colored print of George Washigton from the dollar bill that they show in the opening credits. I wonder if they still have it?
2004raptor
09-07-2011, 12:34 PM
I just discovered this show a few weeks back. I've gone to the websites to catch up on older shows.
It's definitely better than Hardcore Pawn, which I also discovered, but the scripted stuff is getting old.
wow, now American Pickers is doing product placement. Happened to catch it during channel flipping and they just happen to stop by a KFC for a quick bite, of course KFC was one of the commercials during the break.
2004raptor
09-07-2011, 06:46 PM
Also ran across this story earlier today about Chumlee's B-day bash.
Link. (http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/06/pawn-stars-chum-lee-cristal-champagne-bottles-austin-russell-push-nightclub-tunica-mississippi/)
omnibus
09-07-2011, 08:54 PM
The compound archery bow episode casts more light on chum-lee's stupid act. As a finale on the ep Rick fires an arrow and hits the target. Then it's chum-lee's turn and he also hits the target, a little closer to a bulls eye in fact.
Is it really kinda tricky to fire a compound bow?
Last up is Big Hoss, who either breaks the arrow or fires it into the dirt, not sure which.
pmyers
09-08-2011, 10:09 AM
wow, now American Pickers is doing product placement. Happened to catch it during channel flipping and they just happen to stop by a KFC for a quick bite, of course KFC was one of the commercials during the break.
Are you sure that wasn't Storage Hunters? I saw them do the same thing.
That makes me wonder if the "stars" don't get money from that or if it just goes to the show. If they don't get extra money then I think they are crazy for agreeing to it.
Are you sure that wasn't Storage Hunters? I saw them do the same thing.
Could have been -- these all kind of blend together in my head into a lukewarm mush. I do know that it was the skinnier guy that ordered at the drive thru (hmm, that doesnt help :) )
JLucPicard
09-08-2011, 01:42 PM
Could have been -- these all kind of blend together in my head into a lukewarm mush. I do know that it was the skinnier guy that ordered at the drive thru (hmm, that doesnt help :) )
That was Auction Hunters - I just watched that ep last night.
I don't really care for those kinds of things, but I love my DVRs, so I guess we'll just have to put up with it. :down:
pmyers
09-13-2011, 11:55 AM
I was confused on the last episode where the guy brought in the Penn State Orange Bowl ring. Was Rick saying it was Illegal for him to purchase it because the engraving had been removed (which it looked like it had just been worn out not on purpose)?
If so, was it because it was the manufacturer's engraving? I assume somebody's personal engraving wouldn't matter, would it?
I always wonder why people come in there to sell family heirlooms like that bomber jacket (which with those journals was absolutely badass!) for fairly small money, but I guess she did say she had nobody to pass it down to.
2004raptor
09-13-2011, 12:21 PM
I think it was because it's the manufacturers engraving. Still don't see why it would be "illegal". I can see why it might diminish the value though.
I often wonder why people don't just put this stuff on ebay/craigslist/etc. It seems like 99% of the stuff that comes in the door the seller never gets waht he/she wants.
robbhimself
09-13-2011, 12:23 PM
i think it's because it was an identifying mark, like if i tried to sell you a wedding ring with an engraving scratched off, you should assume that i stole it and that would make it illegal to resell. at least that's how i interpreted it
nataylor
09-13-2011, 12:26 PM
I often wonder why people don't just put this stuff on ebay/craigslist/etc. It seems like 99% of the stuff that comes in the door the seller never gets waht he/she wants.
Like they say on the show: cash money. There's something to be said for walking away with a stack of cash, instead of having to deal with the hassles and uncertainty things like eBay or Craigslist can bring.
markz
09-13-2011, 12:58 PM
I always wonder why people come in there to sell family heirlooms like that bomber jacket (which with those journals was absolutely badass!) for fairly small money, but I guess she did say she had nobody to pass it down to.
If I didn't have someone to pass things of historic value on to (ie. bomber jacket and journals), I'd find a museum to donate/loan them to. I have been to several airplane museums that have displays with that type of stuff. Sometimes it says "donated by" or "on loan from" with someones name. At least leave a legacy like that!
pmyers
09-13-2011, 01:16 PM
If I didn't have someone to pass things of historic value on to (ie. bomber jacket and journals), I'd find a museum to donate/loan them to. I have been to several airplane museums that have displays with that type of stuff. Sometimes it says "donated by" or "on loan from" with someones name. At least leave a legacy like that!
Exactly! I guess maybe I'm a little jealous because I don't have any great family heirlooms or pieces of history like that from my family...but it amazes me that people are willing to part with that kind of stuff for not a lot of money.
I saw one episode where the lady was selling her dad's military clearance badges....c'mon!
scooterboy
09-13-2011, 03:10 PM
I often wonder why people don't just put this stuff on ebay/craigslist/etc. It seems like 99% of the stuff that comes in the door the seller never gets waht he/she wants.
Like they say on the show: cash money. There's something to be said for walking away with a stack of cash, instead of having to deal with the hassles and uncertainty things like eBay or Craigslist can bring.
Not to mention that the pawn shop is in Vegas. If ever there was a place where people often need fast cash, it's there.
Chumlee and the pirate ship was totally staged by production. Wonder if they let the seller in on it. He seemed genuinely annoyed.
2004raptor
09-13-2011, 07:03 PM
Chumlee and the pirate ship was totally staged by production. Wonder if they let the seller in on it. He seemed like a very bad actor.
fyp :D
new shows air 11/28/2011 and they have a marathon right now.
just saw an episode "Time Machines" dated 8/16/2009 where it looks like Ron Dale (the brother of Rick Dale from American Restoration) is the "customer" that sells Rick a beat up coke machine and then RD restores it. It also appears that the "restored" coke machine wasnt even the one they brought in to "restore."
http://centraltendencies.com/2011/03/pawn-stars-is-fake/
nataylor
11-26-2011, 03:27 PM
http://centraltendencies.com/2011/03/pawn-stars-is-fake/
I love that this guy's problem with the show is that it's on History, so it should be accurate. Hello, this is History... The home of UFO Hunters and Ancient Aliens. Authenticity needs to be evaluated on a show-by show basis, not assumed for everything airing on the channel.
phox_mulder
11-26-2011, 06:00 PM
I love that this guy's problem with the show is that it's on History, so it should be accurate. Hello, this is History... The home of UFO Hunters and Ancient Aliens. Authenticity needs to be evaluated on a show-by show basis, not assumed for everything airing on the channel.
South Park from a couple weeks ago was a bit anti History Channel.
Thanksgiving and aliens.
phox
scooterboy
11-26-2011, 11:38 PM
new shows air 11/28/2011 and they have a marathon right now.
just saw an episode "Time Machines" dated 8/16/2009 where it looks like Ron Dale (the brother of Rick Dale from American Restoration) is the "customer" that sells Rick a beat up coke machine and then RD restores it. It also appears that the "restored" coke machine wasnt even the one they brought in to "restore."
http://centraltendencies.com/2011/03/pawn-stars-is-fake/
I remember when that first aired, some people here noticed that the machines weren't the same. But no one knew who Ron (or Rick) Dale was, since American Restoration wasn't a show yet.
Pretty embarrassing that Ron plays the "customer" in that episode.
*yawn*.
Yes, Pawn Stars is staged. It has to be because the goal of the show is not about a pawn shop, nor about how pawn shops work. It's just a look at some interesting items and details about that item. It's all about the item.
If you observe closely, the items they show aren't from the same time period (you can see items hanging on the walls that came in on later episodes). And Chum Lee, really? (He's seemed to have gotten more intelligent as time progresses).
Anyhow, once you realize it's about the item, it makes sense it's all staged. Items don't come through the door just as the camera crew focuses on it - it's a standard stage entrance instruction. And ever notice how the shop seems to not be too busy when something big comes in? Or how people would just put items smack in the middle of the floor where customers could walk into it?
Heck, the crew probably review the interesting items that come in and call up the previous (or current, if the item didn't sell) owners to come tape a segment.
And authenticity level varies depending on what the show's about. I meant, seriously - a 24 hour pawn shop that in 3+ years of TV, never seems to have a problem customer? Or how experts seem to be called in constantly? That means while the pawn shop's real, the pawn shop itself isn't the focus and subject to creative artistry (what about the mundane stuff?). The items themselves are the important parts - more specifically, oddities that show up.
Ditto other shows like American Pickers - it's not about two people travelling the country - it's about the stuff they find and the history behind it. Heck both AP and PS are really modernized versions of the antique shows that air.
Hell, half the stuff on "reality TV" is staged as well. Or often re-staged just for dramatic effect.
NetJunkie
11-27-2011, 10:01 AM
It's obvious the show is staged..I don't think anyone doubts that. Look at when a "customer" comes in..the store is dead empty. They close it down for those shots...clean up the store...and do a great job on the lighting (I've been in the store).
I'm sure we all know its staged, most shows are. The crew just cant sit around and hope something interesting happens. Its just the matter of the degrees. I still hope for a big difference between Pawn Stars and Operation Repo.
I mean, really, how many folks are going to take a trip to Las Vegas and bring their revolutionary war bond or grandfather's civil war rifle in case they need gambling money?
scooterboy
11-27-2011, 12:18 PM
*yawn*.
Of course it's staged to a degree. Given a minute of thought, it's obvious that the film crew isn't there filming 24/7/365 and then they just edit it down to the interesting bits.
But one would hope that the customers they show are the real customers, brought back in when the store is closed for easier filming. The fact that the customer that brought in the coke machine (supposedly) later restored by Rick Dale was actually Ron Dale is the real disappointment IMO.
VegasVic
11-27-2011, 02:45 PM
Yeah I always assume these shows are mostly fake but entertaining anyway. I like American Restoration, I don't care of the "customers" are fake or where the items come from, it's interesting, to me anyway, to see how they are restored. I don't know much about that so I learn something in most cases.
Adam1115
11-27-2011, 07:11 PM
You want staged, check out Hardcore Pawn....
VegasVic
11-27-2011, 09:16 PM
Hardcore Pawn is a trainwreck. I want to slap the two siblings. And Les. And the customers.
You want staged, check out Hardcore Pawn....
Staged? What do you mean? :)
Interesting how all the whack jobs luckily have mic packs on.
bareyb
11-27-2011, 10:47 PM
Yeah, I can barely watch Hardcore Pawn. I still watch it though... But if it gets any more Maury Povich I'm out. :D
nataylor
11-28-2011, 08:27 AM
Hardcore Pawn is much more realistic, in that it's all about people selling or getting loans on cheap crap. Pawn stores aren't all antiques and collectibles.
2004raptor
11-28-2011, 08:47 AM
Just discovered Pawn Queens over the weekend. Anyone else watch it?
Seems OK and the girls aren't bad to look at. Although there seems to be a tad bit of drama made up for the show but from what I've seen it hasn't gotten too cheesy yet.
innocentfreak
11-28-2011, 04:35 PM
Hardcore Pawn is much more realistic, in that it's all about people selling or getting loans on cheap crap. Pawn stores aren't all antiques and collectibles.
Yeah I find Hardcore Pawn to be much more realistic. The siblings remind me of my friend and his sister.
Just discovered Pawn Queens over the weekend. Anyone else watch it?
Seems OK and the girls aren't bad to look at. Although there seems to be a tad bit of drama made up for the show but from what I've seen it hasn't gotten too cheesy yet.
I watched it for a bit, and I gave up on it. It is really bad on the fake drama, but I forgot it was TLC show so I shouldn't be surprised.
I swear I recognize the one girl from something else also.
JFriday
11-29-2011, 11:36 AM
I swear I recognize the one girl from something else also.
Shannon edwards has 52 credits on IMDB, mostly small parts though.
omnibus
11-29-2011, 02:03 PM
I'd love to know how much time passed between the ex-blue angel pilot's first look at the trainer and his decision to take it up.
Also, who paid for the fuel?
Tpfer
11-30-2011, 03:06 AM
Also, who paid for the fuel?
They seem to do that a lot. Waste people's time and money when they have no intention of buying an item. They use the seller's ammo, fuel and property to enjoy themselves and then give a lowball offer or say we are not interested at all.
Surely (1) the show reimburses these people for any resources used, (2) the show is scripted, so it's not like it's a surprise to anyone, (3) the sellers know full well they're taping a segment for TV, and it's not a real "sale" or "no-sale"..oh, and (4) the sellers are probably compensated for their time as well (I'm guessing).
JFriday
11-30-2011, 09:03 AM
Really, come on if you're trying to sell a jet, is the first place you go to a Pawn shop?? I wouldn't be surprised if they contacted the seller to set this up.
Frylock
12-01-2011, 08:23 AM
It seems like a great way to advertise your unique product. And I think half of the people would sell for a loss just to get on tv.
JFriday
12-01-2011, 09:04 AM
Well that wouldn't really be advertising the unique product if you're selling it for half it's worth.
nataylor
12-01-2011, 09:21 AM
I'm kinda shocked you can get a freaking fighter jet for $200k. I have no idea what planes cost, but I figured a nice little single-engine prop plane would cost that much.
Adam1115
12-01-2011, 09:42 AM
I totally want that jet.
Frylock
12-01-2011, 11:48 AM
Well that wouldn't really be advertising the unique product if you're selling it for half it's worth.
That's the price to the tv show. When you go to buy it outside the show, the price may shoot up.
JFriday
12-01-2011, 01:16 PM
That's the price to the tv show. When you go to buy it outside the show, the price may shoot up.
My comment was in regards to half the people selling for a loss. How is that advertising?
MarkofT
12-01-2011, 08:44 PM
I'm kinda shocked you can get a freaking fighter jet for $200k. I have no idea what planes cost, but I figured a nice little single-engine prop plane would cost that much.A new single engine prop plane would cost that much. If you compare 2 seat single engine planes, they run around $30k depending on time left on the components. And the majority of those planes will be over 30 years old.
$200k for a 20 year old Soviet designed training jet is accurate. And in answer to a previous poster, the fighter pilot probably took about a 15 minute look at the documents and then a 30 minute walk around before he hopped in. Rick was completely off base calling a 20 year old plane scary. It's just gotten past adolescence.
stalemate
12-01-2011, 08:50 PM
I just saw this on Facebook and had a good lol
JFriday
12-01-2011, 09:18 PM
I was wondering if they were to fat to fit in the plane.
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