Eureka 7/17/09 "Your Face Or Mine" *SPOILERS*

[Sherminator]

Cannot help but feel that they cut something out, One moment a clean Carter is jumping for joy on the invisible platform when the lights go out, we hear a rush of liquid & Carter exclaim "Cold Water". The next time we see him, he is completely dirty asking Josefina if she had to tread water.

So what's with the dirt?

[Anubys]

Cannot help but feel that they cut something out, One moment a clean Carter is jumping for joy on the invisible platform when the lights go out, we hear a rush of liquid & Carter exclaim "Cold Water". The next time we see him, he is completely dirty asking Josefina if she had to tread water.

So what's with the dirt?

it was just comic relief...they were putting him through a ton of crap and tricks...we're not really supposed to know, just imagine him going from one cruel joke to another as part of the test :)

[sieglinde]

It was an OK episode. I liked the fact that it did advance the characters of Fargo and Julia some.

[Unbeliever]

I have to give kudos to the sound mixer. After the big gunshot, everything was muted and the "ringing ears" foley was mixed in for a few seconds.

--Carlos V.

[IndyJones1023]

The big editing error was not showing how Carter survived the fall.

[Sherminator]

I presumed that there was some kind of dampening field which cushioned the landing, and the real way to "push the button" from the final platform was to make the "leap of faith", jumping towards the button in order to reach it, proving that he would do anything, including risking his life to achieve the objective.

But we all know that Jack will risk his life when the time calls as he has done so in many an episode.

[Rob Helmerichs]

The big editing error was not showing how Carter survived the fall.
It's not an editing error, it just doesn't matter for the story.

[IndyJones1023]

It's not an editing error, it just doesn't matter for the story.

It does when it pulls people out of the story.

[cheesesteak]

I thought Fargo's new girlfriend was waaay hotter than Jo.

[Bierboy]

I thought Fargo's new girlfriend was waaay hotter than Jo.

:up:

[DevdogAZ]

I thought Fargo's new girlfriend was waaay hotter than Jo.
She wasn't hotter than Erica Cerra, but she certainly was no slouch. No reason she should have been overlooked by Fargo and the rest like she claimed to be.

[mrpope]

But Hot chicks on TV instantly become not attractive when they have glasses on, and their hair done differently.
:)

[Rob Helmerichs]

But Hot chicks on TV instantly become not attractive when they have glasses on, and their hair done differently.
:)
Being brunette helps, too.

Slap glasses on a hot brunette, and we're talkin' Hollywood UGLY! :D

[Anubys]

what's funny about this is that I find Jo much more attractive in her "deputy" getup than when they let her pull her hair down and do all the "sexy" stuff...

[marrone]

I'm suprised they're letting Fargo's new girlfriend (whatever her name is) off with just an ethics inquiry. I mean, she DID almost destroy Jo's life (forget the health issues, I'm talking identity theft/swap).

-Mike

[DevdogAZ]

I'm suprised they're letting Fargo's new girlfriend (whatever her name is) off with just an ethics inquiry. I mean, she DID almost destroy Jo's life (forget the health issues, I'm talking identity theft/swap).

-Mike
I was surprised by that as well. Seems like at minimum, she should be in jail and lose her job. Instead, they're just going to have an investigation, but they're so impressed by her research that the other stuff is likely going to be swept under the rug.

[Rob Helmerichs]

I was surprised by that as well. Seems like at minimum, she should be in jail and lose her job. Instead, they're just going to have an investigation, but they're so impressed by her research that the other stuff is likely going to be swept under the rug.
People seem to get away with/excused for a lot in that town... ;)

[Anubys]

not unlike most places of work...if you're brilliant enough and can improve "the bottom line", you can get away with murder...

[Shakhari]

Look at all the trouble Henry was in a couple of seasons ago and where he is now ...

[DevdogAZ]

Look at all the trouble Henry was in a couple of seasons ago and where he is now ...
I forget the details, but wasn't Henry in "trouble" because of a misunderstanding or misinformation, rather than because he actually did something wrong?

[IndyJones1023]

He was trying to alter the past. A big no no.

[busyba]

I forget the details, but wasn't Henry in "trouble" because of a misunderstanding or misinformation, rather than because he actually did something wrong?

No, he did something wrong.

I think it was something to do with trying to change time to bring his dead girlfriend back, and then covering it up when it got undone, and then meddling with the Artifact somehow.

Whatever it was that he did, he confessed to it and got sent to some kind of federal lockup and only got released back to Eureka's custody when something Really Really Bad(tm) was happening that he was uniquely qualified to fix. And then through that he got a pardon or something.

[meglet]

I forget the details, but wasn't Henry in "trouble" because of a misunderstanding or misinformation, rather than because he actually did something wrong?

Oh, he did something wrong: he faked a biological attack on GD headquarters so he could get the director's office to turn into a bunker, where he took Alison, her son, and Beverly Barlow whom he had snuck out of prison. In theory so he could help Alison's son, but also so he could get revenge on Beverly for killing Kim. The general was highly unamused at being tricked and nearly killing all the people left in the building, so they locked Henry up waiting for a trial.

Then Eva the fixer came in, pulled some strings, and got Henry back so he would owe her favors. At which point all his previous problems magically disappeared.

[DevdogAZ]

Oh, he did something wrong: he faked a biological attack on GD headquarters so he could get the director's office to turn into a bunker, where he took Alison, her son, and Beverly Barlow whom he had snuck out of prison. In theory so he could help Alison's son, but also so he could get revenge on Beverly for killing Kim. The general was highly unamused at being tricked and nearly killing all the people left in the building, so they locked Henry up waiting for a trial.

Then Eva the fixer came in, pulled some strings, and got Henry back so he would owe her favors. At which point all his previous problems magically disappeared.
That's right. Thanks for the reminder.

[Hunter Green]

Being brunette helps, too.

Slap glasses on a hot brunette, and we're talkin' Hollywood UGLY! :D
Now you're making me daydream about Jill over on Chuck. I'll take as much of that "Hollywood ugly" as they're giving away!

[Steveknj]

what's funny about this is that I find Jo much more attractive in her "deputy" getup than when they let her pull her hair down and do all the "sexy" stuff...

I respectfully disagree. I thought she was REALLY hot doing the karaoke

[Anubys]

I respectfully disagree. I thought she was REALLY hot doing the karaoke

it's impossible to disagree with my statement (read my quoted text again!) :p

[mrpantstm]

I really thought Jo's real test was just starting when she left the testing room and Carter went in. I realize, yes it tested her abilities but it wasn't a quantified test run by G.D. I figured Jo would figure out what was going on, the hologram/whatever would come down and the test would be over.

I like that they moved Jo's character forward. After last episode where she essentially quit because she got passed over for robocop, it's good to see her character get some time.

What took me out of the episode was Amanda and Henry not believing Julia was actually Jo. They just went on faith that what the Jo they saw was telling the truth. They work at frakkin G.D. where something like what the "impostor" was saying could be true but pfff let's not investigate it like, you know scientists.

Not to thread crap but while Eureka tries to be a town with smart people, they really have some stupid/lazy writing.

[IndyJones1023]

They really do overwrite the "smart people who are too stupid to see what the bumpkin sheriff can figure out" angle. But I think of it this way: don't you know ultra smart people who are really deficient in some area of life you consider common sense? That's what they're doing, but if they wrote it accurately, the smart people would be intolerable characters. Too annoying to tune into every week. So the smart people are well rounded, likeable people - but they have to be stupid in some sense so that Carter can fix things for everyone.

[mrpantstm]

They really do overwrite the "smart people who are too stupid to see what the bumpkin sheriff can figure out" angle. But I think of it this way: don't you know ultra smart people who are really deficient in some area of life you consider common sense? That's what they're doing, but if they wrote it accurately, the smart people would be intolerable characters. Too annoying to tune into every week. So the smart people are well rounded, likeable people - but they have to be stupid in some sense so that Carter can fix things for everyone.

yeah I get that and maybe that's what they're going for. But to me, an example of that kind of person would be someone who can calculate pi but not bake a cake or cloth themselves (fashionably).

It's almost as if they set up the scientists to be the motivated by the sheriff. If there's a problem it's Carter (or in this episode Jo) asking Henry/Fargo/Allison to figure something out. The smart people just don't have that motivation on their own to investigate. Jo's first move was the ask Henry for help in her investigation.

It also implies that every smart person is deficient in intuitive detection which given Eureka's size (and the fact that these are scientists who use intuition all the time) seems ridiculous at best.

I like the show but the above is certainly causing me to like it less so.

[Steveknj]

yeah I get that and maybe that's what they're going for. But to me, an example of that kind of person would be someone who can calculate pi but not bake a cake or cloth themselves (fashionably).

It's almost as if they set up the scientists to be the motivated by the sheriff. If there's a problem it's Carter (or in this episode Jo) asking Henry/Fargo/Allison to figure something out. The smart people just don't have that motivation on their own to investigate. Jo's first move was the ask Henry for help in her investigation.

It also implies that every smart person is deficient in intuitive detection which given Eureka's size (and the fact that these are scientists who use intuition all the time) seems ridiculous at best.

I like the show but the above is certainly causing me to like it less so.


I think part of it plays to the stereotype that smart "nerdy" types are disfunctional in society and they need someone "normal" like Carter to bring them back to the real world. These scientists are in their own little worlds most of the time (think of all the little side projects a lot of these folks have). This past episode was the perfect example of that. Fargo and Jo can never connect because Fargo doesn't know how to act around her, and the other girl who liked Fargo, she didn't know how to get Fargo's attention, so she did something geeky to get it, and it caused disfunction. Same with the Sherrif Andy episode. They build the "perfect" law enforcement robot, yet it still couldn't be as affective as "normal" guy Carter.

[BitbyBlit]

Then Eva the fixer came in, pulled some strings, and got Henry back so he would owe her favors. At which point all his previous problems magically disappeared.

1. Eva saves Henry
2. Jack saves Eva
3. Henry saves Jack

It's the cycle of life in Eureka. :D

[Church AV Guy]

Then Eva the fixer came in, pulled some strings, and got Henry back so he would owe her favors. At which point all his previous problems magically disappeared.

1. Eva saves Henry
2. Jack saves Eva
3. Henry saves Jack

It's the cycle of life in Eureka. :D
You forgot, one thing. THEN, no one ever mentions it again!