Big Brother 11 - 7/16/09 [Text View]

marksman

07-16-2009, 09:36 PM

It was like the double worst outcome. First ronnie screws up the vote. He screwed it up because neither side will believe him when said what he did, then he went and won HOH so he can't immediately be punished.

I suspect a few swirlies and wedgies and Ronnie will be putting up people Ruscle and Jessie want out.

shanew1289

07-16-2009, 09:37 PM

uncdrew

07-16-2009, 11:05 PM

I think it was pretty smart of Ronnie to vote the way he did. This early in the game I really do think you need to keep your clique in the game.

You saw how hard it was to win HoH for the Popular group. They got a lot of questions correct but still were knocked out early.

I do think Ronnie can say he voted for Chima and not be found out. Casey and Michele will be suspected for flipping, as will Ronnie.

I oddly find myself rooting for the popular group. I'm not liking Lydia at all, and don't like the Jessie/Russell two-headed muscle-monster.

jcondon

07-16-2009, 11:37 PM

I loved that Jeff threw the HOH. Hope Ronnie doesn't put him up though.

uncdrew

07-16-2009, 11:42 PM

I loved that Jeff threw the HOH. Hope Ronnie doesn't put him up though.

I like Jeff, but he's in a crappy position. And he's already pulling that semi-whiney "I don't have any friends here" routine. Everyone who does that leaves the house. Perhaps because they don't have any friends. :p

appleye1

07-17-2009, 12:44 AM

Even if they find out Ronnie voted against Braedon they'll have to kiss up to him anyway. That sucks. But hopefully it'll come back to bite him later. He's certainly setting himself up as the guy you can't trust.

marksman

07-17-2009, 02:58 AM

Actually Ronnie winning HOH spoiled his plan.

They are already telling him the proof that he was not the flipper will be in his nominations. he is already trying to come up with bogus reasons to nominate some of them so he can go back on his word. But they have already called him out.. so he is stuck now.

nmiller855

07-17-2009, 04:15 AM

Where can we find a transcript of Chima's speech. I was only listening & not watching then I deleted it before I could go back & try to figure it out.

Steveknj

07-17-2009, 08:09 AM

Wheres the fun BB I remember. It seems people are starting fights sooner than needed. Have they given out alcohol yet?

Where are the religous folk to call out Ronnie as Judas... O wait, thats been played already.

I hope it gets less dramatic soon.

LOL Braden - I could see something sinister in those eyes behind the glasses. (something like that)

Agreed. The fights are fun in small measure, but when they spend what seems like half the show on them, it gets boring and cringe worthy quick. So far, I am NOT liking this season. I can't point to ONE houseguest I can say that I like.

As for Ronnie, I think he saved his butt with HoH, because he would been gone as soon as the anti-Russell/Jesse group realized it was his vote that got Braden kicked off (assuming one of them had gotten HoH).

I'll give it another week or so, but I'm rapidly losing interest.

jcondon

07-17-2009, 08:23 AM

I like Jeff, but he's in a crappy position. And he's already pulling that semi-whiney "I don't have any friends here" routine. Everyone who does that leaves the house. Perhaps because they don't have any friends. :p

His Clique mates obviously don't like him and would vote him out if he is up. If someone other then Ronnie won HOH they probably would have put up at least one of the muscle headed midgets. If Jeff won he couldn't. He needs to get them out of the house if he wants a shot at winning. They do not have his back. Only thing being their in their clique does is make it so they can't put him up.

I hope Ronnie is smart and puts up one of them. Either as the original 2 on the block or as a replacement if needed.

He already knows Russell doesn't trust him.

IndyJones1023

07-17-2009, 08:25 AM

The obviously smart choices this week are Jesse and Russell. Let's see if Brainiac can figure that out.

Lopey

07-17-2009, 08:35 AM

He already knows Russell doesn't trust him.

I'm not sure he's really smart enough to figure that out. I think he thinks he got away with it...

2004raptor

07-17-2009, 08:44 AM

Where can we find a transcript of Chima's speech. I was only listening & not watching then I deleted it before I could go back & try to figure it out.

According to another website, this was the comment.

It amazes me how short some of the memory spans in here are, because my opponent here called both of my very good friends in the house b**ners. And then he called Julie a wh*re. Yes he did. And so, a vote for Braden is a vote for a bigot. Anyone who aligns himself with a racist and a misogynist--you deserve to go home.

I put asterisks in just in case the words aren't allowed one here or a Mod can delete the whole thing if it's offensive.

IndyJones1023

07-17-2009, 08:49 AM

I don't even know what word that means. Bitchners? Beaners? Boners?

2004raptor

07-17-2009, 08:53 AM

I don't even know what word that means. Bitchners? Beaners? Boners?

Some kind of a mexican slang/insult??????

loubob57

07-17-2009, 08:56 AM

I don't even know what word that means. Bitchners? Beaners? Boners?

Briners - someone who makes pickles. :D

Steveknj

07-17-2009, 09:35 AM

His Clique mates obviously don't like him and would vote him out if he is up. If someone other then Ronnie won HOH they probably would have put up at least one of the muscle headed midgets. If Jeff won he couldn't. He needs to get them out of the house if he wants a shot at winning. They do not have his back. Only thing being their in their clique does is make it so they can't put him up.

I hope Ronnie is smart and puts up one of them. Either as the original 2 on the block or as a replacement if needed.

He already knows Russell doesn't trust him.

If I'm Ronnie, I'd tell the athletes that he needs to put up one of THEM as a pawn, just as they did to his team, to "hide" the alliance. And this way, if the rest of the house votes off the athlete, well, it's not HIS fault, because they agreed to that plan. But you know, when it comes down to it, the athletes will balk at being put up as pawns.

Frylock

07-17-2009, 10:34 AM

I think the "brains" is really an off-name. Is Ronnie really a brain? Or just a nerd in HS who wasn't a brain?

jradford

07-17-2009, 10:38 AM

I don't even know what word that means. Bitchners? Beaners? Boners?

The middle one. It's a derogatory term for a Mexican or pretty much anyone hispanic. A quick google search led me to this explanation that seemed reasonable:

Beaner is a reference to Hispanic people. Not only Mexicans. I did some research on the word, and usually that word is in Mexican context, but it does refer to all Hispanics in general. The reason why they call us beaners is because apparently we are stereotypically categorized as people who come from a "bean-eating" environment (in most Latin American countries, a variety of beans are cultivated and eaten quite a bit) So, they call us "beaners".

IndyJones1023

07-17-2009, 10:44 AM

Wow, I was just grasping at straws and thought I made that one up. I grew up in south Florida and have never heard the term.

uncdrew

07-17-2009, 10:55 AM

The obviously smart choices this week are Jesse and Russell. Let's see if Brainiac can figure that out.

Yep.

Not only is it the smart way to go (with Natalie as the backdoor), but it's also the way that will make uncdrew the most happy. :up:

uncdrew

07-17-2009, 10:56 AM

Some kind of a mexican slang/insult??????

Yes, due to the fact Mexicans eat refried beans.

Of course I eat them too.

Growing up in San Diego I knew that word early. And often.

uncdrew

07-17-2009, 11:00 AM

If I'm Ronnie, I'd tell the athletes that he needs to put up one of THEM as a pawn, just as they did to his team, to "hide" the alliance. And this way, if the rest of the house votes off the athlete, well, it's not HIS fault, because they agreed to that plan. But you know, when it comes down to it, the athletes will balk at being put up as pawns.

I think he needs to go beyond that, and pick a side.

He needs to pair up with the brains and off-beats (and populars) and Jeff, if possible.

He's in hot water, they know he's a snake -- he's got to (IMHBBO) make his stand, break the brains/athletes alliance and call war on the athletes. If he does that without scheming and breaking promises I think he can be safe for a while, and regain some trust.

He can either stick to his "I voted for Chima, just like I said. Someone else is lying." or he can say at the last minute he realized he needed to protect his clique. I don't think people can get too mad at him for that.

uncdrew

07-17-2009, 11:03 AM

I wish more of us TCFers were discussing this show.

Shaunnick

07-17-2009, 12:19 PM

I wish more of us TCFers were discussing this show.

I still don't know what to say at the moment. The only people I like are Jeff, Casey, and Laura's boobs. Jeff is really in a powerless position at the moment so he can't really do anything. If he would actually try and talk to people rather than just chill all the time he could be a force to be reckoned with. And we don't see nearly enough of Casey or Laura's boobs. I thought it was funny that Ronnie voted the way he did, because this early in the game causing confusion is easy to do and the blame is easy to lay elsewhere. He should have thrown HOH though.

uncdrew

07-17-2009, 12:22 PM

I still don't know what to say at the moment. The only people I like are Jeff, Casey, and Laura's boobs. Jeff is really in a powerless position at the moment so he can't really do anything. If he would actually try and talk to people rather than just chill all the time he could be a force to be reckoned with. And we don't see nearly enough of Casey or Laura's boobs. I thought it was funny that Ronnie voted the way he did, because this early in the game causing confusion is easy to do and the blame is easy to lay elsewhere. He should have thrown HOH though.

I always view these elimination-type reality games in a way that if they don't show much of Casey or Laura's boobs in the first few weeks, it's because they are going to be around for a long time.

I could be wrong.

Jeff does need to start playing the game -- meaning just being friends with people and not being such a loner.

Ronnie thinks he's smart, but yes, I too thought he should have thrown HoH. Especially since Michele was going to win and he already thinks he controls her. He should have let her win it.

Shaunnick

07-17-2009, 12:34 PM

Ronnie thinks he's smart, but yes, I too thought he should have thrown HoH. Especially since Michele was going to win and he already thinks he controls her. He should have let her win it.

Bingo.

jcondon

07-17-2009, 12:47 PM

Not only is it the smart way to go (with Natalie as the backdoor), but it's also the way that will make uncdrew the most happy. :up:

I rather see Russell or Jesse out before Natalie. But, any of the 3 would be fine with me.

Have to figure in physical contest Russell and Jesse are more of a threat to Jeff then anyone else.

Plus while annoying I think of Natalie more of a sheep then a leader. If you boot Jesse or Russell she is in real trouble and will likely turn her back on the remaining one. Especially if/when they dump the cliques.

Lopey

07-17-2009, 12:50 PM

So, is Andy calling Jim on the office "Big Tuna" an insult because Jim eats tuna fish sandwiches for lunch alot?

Don't hate me, I'm just sayin'. And no, I haven't heard that one before either

Steveknj

07-17-2009, 01:25 PM

I think he needs to go beyond that, and pick a side.

He needs to pair up with the brains and off-beats (and populars) and Jeff, if possible.

He's in hot water, they know he's a snake -- he's got to (IMHBBO) make his stand, break the brains/athletes alliance and call war on the athletes. If he does that without scheming and breaking promises I think he can be safe for a while, and regain some trust.

He can either stick to his "I voted for Chima, just like I said. Someone else is lying." or he can say at the last minute he realized he needed to protect his clique. I don't think people can get too mad at him for that.

I think with working with the athletes to do the pawn thing, he's essentially picking a side, without revealing what side that is. And he is on the side of his clique, right?

jradford

07-17-2009, 03:11 PM

So, is Andy calling Jim on the office "Big Tuna" an insult because Jim eats tuna fish sandwiches for lunch alot?

Don't hate me, I'm just sayin'. And no, I haven't heard that one before either
Kind of a silly comparison. "Beaner" is used in a derogatory sense. It's used to incite and put down. I'd say 99% of the people that use it have no clue where it comes from, and 100% use it because they know it's derogatory.

uncdrew

07-17-2009, 04:34 PM

I rather see Russell or Jesse out before Natalie. But, any of the 3 would be fine with me.

Have to figure in physical contest Russell and Jesse are more of a threat to Jeff then anyone else.

Plus while annoying I think of Natalie more of a sheep then a leader. If you boot Jesse or Russell she is in real trouble and will likely turn her back on the remaining one. Especially if/when they dump the cliques.

Yup, she's a total sheep and my last pick of those three as well. It's just nice that there's a backdoor option from that team. So even if you don't get Russell or Jessie you can still hurt them pretty badly and not risk losing any "non-athlete".

uncdrew

07-17-2009, 04:36 PM

I think with working with the athletes to do the pawn thing, he's essentially picking a side, without revealing what side that is. And he is on the side of his clique, right?

Are you saying he's already picked his side and it's with the brains and athletes?

That's true, for last week.

I can see him changing sides pretty fast.

realityboy

07-17-2009, 06:50 PM

Casey really messed up that HOH when he eliminated Jeff instead of Ronnie.

Shaunnick

07-17-2009, 07:23 PM

Casey really messed up that HOH when he eliminated Jeff instead of Ronnie.

I would agree except the house doesn't want Jeff to win either, because that guarantees the Athletes safety.

uncdrew

07-17-2009, 08:47 PM

I would agree except the house doesn't want Jeff to win either, because that guarantees the Athletes safety.

Agreed. I would have dumped Jeff too, to make sure the athletes would be fair game this time.

Jebberwocky!

07-18-2009, 10:00 AM

Agreed. I would have dumped Jeff too, to make sure the athletes would be fair game this time.

I agree with this logic but Jeff's not the brightest bulb and he may not have tried to win either.

I didn't think of this strategy - they should have got to Jeff before the HOH and made sure he would not try to win it.