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Steveknj
07-16-2009, 09:54 AM
Have at it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_en_ot/us_tv_emmy_nominations_3

David Platt
07-16-2009, 10:14 AM
Jim Parsons nominated for Best Actor in a Comedy Series!

Yes!

Steveknj
07-16-2009, 10:20 AM
Jim Parsons nominated for Best Actor in a Comedy Series!

Yes!

Agreed. His show should have been nominated as well.

Snappa77
07-16-2009, 10:52 AM
From http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_emmy_nominations_short_list

Drama Series: "Big Love," HBO; "Breaking Bad," AMC; "Damages," FX Networks; "Dexter," Showtime; "House," Fox; "Lost," ABC; "Mad Men," AMC.

Comedy Series: "Entourage," HBO; "Family Guy," Fox; "Flight of the Conchords," HBO; "How I Met Your Mother," CBS; "The Office," NBC; "30 Rock," NBC; "Weeds," Showtime.

Miniseries: "Generation Kill," HBO; "Little Dorrit" PBS.

Made-for-TV Movie: "Coco Chanel," Lifetime; "Grey Gardens," HBO; "Into the Storm," HBO; "Prayers for Bobby," Lifetime; "Taking Chance," HBO.

Actor, Drama Series: Bryan Cranston, "Breaking Bad," AMC; Michael C. Hall, "Dexter," Showtime; Hugh Laurie, "House," Fox; Gabriel Byrne, "In Treatment," HBO; Jon Hamm, "Mad Men," AMC; Simon Baker, "The Mentalist," CBS.

Actress, Drama Series: Sally Field, "Brothers & Sisters," ABC; Kyra Sedgwick, "The Closer," TNT; Glenn Close, "Damages," FX Networks; Mariska Hargitay, "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit," NBC; Elisabeth Moss, "Mad Men," AMC; Holly Hunter, "Saving Grace," TNT.

Supporting Actor, Drama Series: William Shatner, "Boston Legal," ABC; Christian Clemenson, "Boston Legal," ABC; Aaron Paul, "Breaking Bad," AMC; William Hurt, "Damages," FX Networks; Michael Emerson, "Lost," ABC; John Slattery, "Mad Men," AMC.

Supporting Actress, Drama Series: Rose Byrne, "Damages," FX Networks; Sandra Oh, "Grey's Anatomy," ABC; Chandra Wilson, "Grey's Anatomy," ABC; Dianne Wiest, "In Treatment," HBO; Hope Davis, "In Treatment," HBO; Cherry Jones, "24," Fox.

Actor, Comedy Series: Jim Parsons, "The Big Bang Theory," CBS; Jemaine Clement, "Flight of the Conchords," HBO; Tony Shalhoub, "Monk," USA; Steve Carell, "The Office," NBC; Alec Baldwin, "30 Rock," NBC; Charlie Sheen, "Two and a Half Men," CBS.

Actress, Comedy Series: Julia Louis-Dreyfus, "The New Adventures of Old Christine," CBS; Christina Applegate, "Samantha Who?" ABC; Sarah Silverman, "The Sarah Silverman Program," Comedy Central; Tina Fey, "30 Rock," NBC; Toni Collette, "United States of Tara," Showtime; Mary-Louise Parker, "Weeds," Showtime.

Supporting Actor, Comedy Series: Kevin Dillon, "Entourage," HBO; Neil Patrick Harris, "How I Met Your Mother," CBS; Rainn Wilson, "The Office," NBC; Tracy Morgan, "30 Rock," NBC; Jack McBrayer, "30 Rock," NBC; Jon Cryer, "Two and a Half Men," CBS.

Supporting Actress, Comedy Series: Kristin Chenoweth, "Pushing Daisies," ABC; Amy Poehler, "Saturday Night Live," NBC; Kristin Wiig, "Saturday Night Live," NBC; Jane Krakowski, "30 Rock," NBC; Vanessa Williams, "Ugly Betty," ABC; Elizabeth Perkins, "Weeds," Showtime.

Actor, Miniseries or Movie: Kevin Kline, "Cyrano de Bergerac," PBS; Brendan Gleeson, "Into the Storm," HBO; Ian McKellen, "King Lear," PBS; Kevin Bacon, "Taking Chance," HBO; Kiefer Sutherland, "24: Redemption," Fox; Kenneth Branagh, "Wallander: One Step Behind," PBS.

Actress, Miniseries or Movie: Chandra Wilson, "Accidental Friendship," Hallmark Channel; Shirley MacLaine, "Coco Chanel," Lifetime; Drew Barrymore, "Grey Gardens," HBO; Jessica Lange, "Grey Gardens," HBO; Sigourney Weaver, "Prayers for Bobby," Lifetime .

Supporting Actor, Miniseries or Movie: Ken Howard, "Grey Gardens," HBO; Len Cariou, "Into the Storm," HBO; Bob Newhart, "The Librarian: Curse of the Judas Chalice," TNT; Tom Courtenay, "Little Dorrit," PBS; Andy Serkis, "Little Dorrit," PBS.

Supporting Actress, Miniseries or Movie: Marcia Gay Harden, "The Courageous Heart of Irena Sendler," CBS; Jeanne Tripplehorn, "Grey Gardens," HBO; Shohreh Aghdashloo, "House of Saddam," HBO; Janet McTeer, "Into the Storm," HBO; Cicely Tyson, "Relative Stranger," Hallmark Channel.

Steveknj
07-16-2009, 11:10 AM
Looking at the list, one thing stands out.....Network TV stinks. I'm too lazy to do the math, but I'll bet that cable nominies outnumber network nominies 2-1. Outside of 30 Rock, network TV has a real poor showing.

Steveknj
07-16-2009, 11:25 AM
My votes (and of course this is only shows I have watched):

Best Drama - Dexter (honorable mention Lost)
Best Comedy - 30 Rock (but I think if Big Bang Theory was nominated I would have voted for that)
Miniseries - Generation Kill (only one I saw, and it was just OK)
Movie - Into the Storm (again, only one I saw and it was good, not great)
Drama Actor - Michael C Hall (only actor from a series I watch)
Drama Actress - Pass as I don't watch any of those. I'd vote for the actress who plays Mary in In Plain Sight (who's name escapes me)
SActor Drama - Michael Emerson (he won't win, but he plays the creepy Ben to perfection)
SActress Drama - Pass, the only actress froma show I watch is Cherry Jones and she wasn't that good. My vote would be for Elizabeth Mitchell on Lost
Actor Comedy - Jim Parsons who just cracks me up. Alec Baldwin is the cool choice, but I don't know, it's nothing new at this point.
Actress Comedy - Toni Collette. She did a teriffic job of playing all those characters.
SActor Comedy - I'll go Jack MacBryer 30 Rock (my toughest choice as I love Tracy Morgan and NPH)
SActress Comedy - Kristin Chenoweth (Just because Pushing Daisies gets no love)

I'll skip the other cats as I don't really care and have watched only a few of those.

No Reality category announced yet?

That Don Guy
07-16-2009, 11:43 AM
No Reality category announced yet?
Reality (non-competition) Program:
Antiques Roadshow
Dirty Jobs
The Dog Whisperer
Intervention
Kathy Griffin: My Life on the D-List
Mythbusters

Reality-Competition Program:
The Amazing Race
American Idol
Dancing with the Stars
Project Runway
Top Chef

Reality Program Host (both competition and non-competition):
Phil Keoghan (The Amazing Race)
Ryan Seacrest (American Idol)
Dancing with the Stars (Tom Bergeron)
Project Runway (Heidi Klum)
Survivor (Jeff Probst)
Top Chef (Padma Lakshmi & Tom Colicchio - they are entered together)

while I'm at it...

Voiceover Performance:
Seth MacFarlane (Family Guy)
Dan Castellaneta (The Simpsons)
Hank Azaria (The Simpsons)
Harry Shearer (The Simpsons - I guess the animation and acting branches don't hate him as much as previously thought)
Seth Green (Robot Chicken Star Wars Episode II)
Ron Rifkin (the narrator on Jerome Robbins: Something To Dance About)

-- Don

TIVO_GUY_HERE
07-16-2009, 12:03 PM
For Comedy series, replace Flight of the Concords, or maybe Weeds with Big Bang Theory and that would be perfect.

Magnolia88
07-16-2009, 12:31 PM
I really enjoy Flight of the Conchords, but Jemaine Clement is no "actor." That nomination is sort of strange to me.

The continued exclusion of Friday Night Lights is so sad. I don't understand it.

I enjoy Mad Men, Dexter and Lost a lot . . . but I still think that FNL deserves to be considered one of the best dramas on TV. At the very least, Connie Britton should be there. :(

DevdogAZ
07-16-2009, 12:45 PM
Reality-Competition Program:
The Amazing Race
American Idol
Dancing with the Stars
Project Runway
Top Chef

-- Don
No Survivor? Sorry, but that's a much better produced show than almost everything else on that list.
The continued exclusion of Friday Night Lights is so sad. I don't understand it.

I enjoy Mad Men, Dexter and Lost a lot . . . but I still think that FNL deserves to be considered one of the best dramas on TV. At the very least, Connie Britton should be there. :(
Totally agree with this. FNL has been overlooked every year it's been on the air, yet it's one of the best, most compelling TV shows I've ever watched. Both Kyle Chandler and Connie Britton should be nominated.

bigpuma
07-16-2009, 01:01 PM
I don't get how actor and supporting actor works. Why is Charlie Sheen nominated as best actor and Jon Cryer as supporting actor? Even NPH seems more like a lead role than a supporting role.

mwhip
07-16-2009, 01:03 PM
Glad to see Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Dexter and Big Love in the Drama category. Got to go with Big Love I think.

Comedy series I really think It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia should have been nominated over Entourage or Family Guy.

DevdogAZ
07-16-2009, 01:10 PM
I don't get how actor and supporting actor works. Why is Charlie Sheen nominated as best actor and Jon Cryer as supporting actor? Even NPH seems more like a lead role than a supporting role.
The actors themselves determine what category they want to submit themselves in. This is often done with the help of their agents, the producers of the show and the network they're on. Often, for ensemble casts, the actors submit as supporting just in deference to the other actors on the show.

Several years ago, the six main characters on Friends all agreed to submit themselves as supporting actors, but then one of their managers got a big head and submitted his client in the lead actor category, which caused a big stink when that actor was actually nominated.

anom
07-16-2009, 01:40 PM
I really enjoy Flight of the Conchords, but Jemaine Clement is no "actor."
How do you figure?

Magnolia88
07-16-2009, 02:03 PM
How do you figure?

I don't see any evidence that he is making any effort to create a character. He is playing "himself" basically, but a version of himself that is even less animated than his normal self.

This isn't a criticism of the show - I like it. But I don't think he is even trying to act, he's trying to create a somewhat cartoonish version of himself who has almost no reaction to anything that happens to him. I guess that might be considered a character of sorts, but I don't think it's worthy of an acting nomination. It's the writing that makes that show funny.

DeDondeEs
07-16-2009, 02:11 PM
Wow, overall I think that this is the most I have agreed with a list of nominations or at least the people/shows I think should win an Emmy are at least nominated, who wins is another story. Someone finally did their homework, they must've been looking at this forum. :D

anom
07-16-2009, 02:16 PM
I don't see any evidence that he is making any effort to create a character.
Isn't this a sign of a good actor?

I don't know the real Jermaine Clement. I hope that he's at least a little higher functioning than Jermaine Clement the character. But certainly playing "yourself" is no easier or harder than playing a character. Larry David, Garry Shandling, Jerry Seinfeld among many others have done so to acclaim and, as I recall, at least a few Emmy nominations.

It's the writing that makes that show funny.
Not by itself it isn't. Even with great writing the show would be painful without adept comic performances. The best ones are way more difficult than they look.

hummingbird_206
07-16-2009, 02:17 PM
No Grey's Katherine Heigl. Wonder if she submitted herself this year after her big snit last year?

anom
07-16-2009, 02:22 PM
Was The Shield eligible this year, or was that last year? How about John Adams?

John Adams must have been last year, right? I can picture The Shield being unjustly snubbed, but those HBO historical miniseries are like Emmy catnip. They just can't resist them.

Magnolia88
07-16-2009, 02:23 PM
Isn't this a sign of a good actor?

Not in his case. I don't think his "character" resembles an actual human being, let me put it that way. So even if he's playing "himself" I don't think the nomination is deserved.

Both Larry David and Garry Shandling played versions of themselves, but they appeared to be human beings exhibiting genuine emotions. I don't think Jerry Seinfeld's nominations were ever deserved because he was never able to fully inhabit his character and was always breaking the "Jerry" character to be his "real" self, but that's another story. :p

Supfreak26
07-16-2009, 02:26 PM
My favorites:

Best Drama - Breaking Bad (Lost is great but this show is simply amazing.)

Best Comedy - The Office (although I think 30 Rock will win again)

Drama Actor - Bryan Cranston, "Breaking Bad" (Only one I watch but he is excellent!

Drama Actress - Don't watch any of these.

SActor Drama - Michael Emerson (he won't win, but he plays the creepy Ben to perfection) I agree with this!

SActress Drama - Cherry Jones I guess. Only because it's the only show I watch.

Actor Comedy - Jim Parsons is the man.

Actress Comedy - Tina Fey. I love her.

SActor Comedy - Love all these guys. I'm going with Rainn Wilson.

SActress Comedy - Kristin Chenoweth (Anyone else find it wierd that 2 SNL people were nominated?)

anom
07-16-2009, 02:29 PM
SActress Comedy - Kristin Chenoweth (Anyone else find it wierd that 2 SNL people were nominated?)
I find it weird that any SNL people were nominated.

Neenahboy
07-16-2009, 02:38 PM
This is probably the best set of Emmy nominations in years, if not ever. There are always some glaring omissions (and I might get more bent out of shape about those rather than extol the virtues of most of the selections), but my point stands.

I'm thrilled to see the love for Breaking Bad and Mad Men, ecstatic to see Dexter and Michael C. Hall finally break through, and so pleased about the nod for Big Love. Also, I'm very happy to see Beau Bridges grab a nod for his Desperate Housewives run...what a great episode that was. I'm less happy about the Boston Legal love (Christian Clemensen? Really?), but I take solace in knowing this is its last year of eligibility. Also not pleased about Sally Field...this was a really uneven season of Brothers & Sisters, and she was a big reason for it. And finally, I renew my complaint about the lack of nods for Friday Night Lights. Such a travesty.

Now, the comedy side. Yes, Jim Parsons gets a well-deserved nod, Toni Collette reaps the rewards of an excellent first season of Tara, and How I Met Your Mother gets a cavalcade of overdue and deserving nods (it's probably because NPH was hosting, since this was arguably its worst season, but I don't care). However, we get Entourage, again. Weeds, which did not deserve it at ALL based on its last couple seasons. Love for Ugly Betty, again. Recognition for Two and a Half Men, again. Enough already! Also: Family Guy? Really? I mean, really?

Neenahboy
07-16-2009, 02:40 PM
Was The Shield eligible this year, or was that last year? How about John Adams?

John Adams must have been last year, right? I can picture The Shield being unjustly snubbed, but those HBO historical miniseries are like Emmy catnip. They just can't resist them.

John Adams was last year, and yes, The Shield was eligible. A snub was widely expected, but given this terrific list of drama nominees I don't think anyone can be too bent out of shape. I know I'm not.

That Don Guy
07-16-2009, 02:48 PM
Several years ago, the six main characters on Friends all agreed to submit themselves as supporting actors, but then one of their managers got a big head and submitted his client in the lead actor category, which caused a big stink when that actor was actually nominated.
We may be talking about two different events, but the one I remember is, when this happened to Matthew Perry and he heard about it (before nominations were announced), he had his "lead actor" submission withdrawn, but by then it was too late to submit a "supporting actor" one.

-- Don

DevdogAZ
07-16-2009, 02:57 PM
I don't think Jerry Seinfeld's nominations were ever deserved because he was never able to fully inhabit his character and was always breaking the "Jerry" character to be his "real" self, but that's another story. :p
Was Jerry Seinfeld ever nominated for an Emmy? He certainly didn't deserve to be. I thought it was widely acknowledged that he was by far the worst actor of the foursome.

That Don Guy
07-16-2009, 03:05 PM
Was Jerry Seinfeld ever nominated for an Emmy? He certainly didn't deserve to be. I thought it was widely acknowledged that he was by far the worst actor of the foursome.
Jerry was nominated five times for acting (1992 through 1996), although he never won for acting (he did win once, but for being a producer of the show when it won the Comedy Series Emmy).

-- Don

mwhip
07-16-2009, 03:11 PM
John Adams was last year, and yes, The Shield was eligible. A snub was widely expected, but given this terrific list of drama nominees I don't think anyone can be too bent out of shape. I know I'm not.

Except for Walton Goggins, he should have been a supporting nominee instead of that hack Shatner.

Graymalkin
07-16-2009, 03:12 PM
No noms for "Friday Night Lights", Kyle Chandler, or Connie Britton? Really?

2 1/2 Men and How I Met Your Mother over Big Bang Theory? Really?

The Emmys REMAIN dead to me.

atrac
07-16-2009, 03:48 PM
I am glad to see this nomination:

Outstanding Special Class - Short-format Live-Action Entertainment Programs:

Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog • drhorrible.com • Mutant Enemy, Inc.
Joss Whedon, Producer
Michael Boretz, Producer
David Burns, Producer

It is nice to know that content produced directly for the web not related to any broadcast show can be recognized. I know this has been a category for a few years now, but usually the nominees have been mini-episodes of broadcast network shows.

In other words, yay! :)

By the way, is "Outstanding Voice-Over Performance" a new category or have I just never noticed it?

That Don Guy
07-16-2009, 04:14 PM
By the way, is "Outstanding Voice-Over Performance" a new category or have I just never noticed it?
The category itself is not new; in fact, it started in 1992, almost certainly as a "consolation prize" for The Simpsons not being able to enter as a Comedy Series at the time (the rule was changed one or two years later).

However, this is the first year where it has nominees. Up through 2008, it was what is called a "juried award"; each entry was given a separate "up or down vote" on whether or not it should receive an Emmy. (The first year, six actors won, all from The Simpsons (in fact, that show won more Emmys than any other show in 1992, just because of that category); there have also been years where they decided that nobody should win.) Since juried awards are announced a few weeks in advance, the voiceover award did not get much attention - except for the fact that, in the 17 years of the award's existance, it seemed as if everybody who played a major role on a network animated show won except for Harry Shearer (who plays quite a few characters on The Simpsons, including Mr. Burns, Smithers, Principal Skinner, and Lenny); his constant omission may be a strong reason the category was changed (especially as it takes something like an 11/12 majority vote to give someone a juried Emmy, and reportedly Shearer has pissed off a few people).

(Well, make that, "except for Harry Shearer and Billy West", but that's another story.)

-- Don

speaker city
07-16-2009, 04:31 PM
Danny McBride should have been nominated for his role as Kenny Powers.

Regina
07-16-2009, 07:33 PM
I am THRILLED for Aaron Paul in Breaking Bad-Elizabeth Moss for Mad Men too! AMC! AMC! AMC!

sallypnut
07-16-2009, 07:53 PM
I don't see any evidence that he is making any effort to create a character. He is playing "himself" basically, but a version of himself that is even less animated than his normal self.

This isn't a criticism of the show - I like it. But I don't think he is even trying to act, he's trying to create a somewhat cartoonish version of himself who has almost no reaction to anything that happens to him. I guess that might be considered a character of sorts, but I don't think it's worthy of an acting nomination. It's the writing that makes that show funny.

I disagree. I think he's one of the smartest comedic actors on TV right now.

Neenahboy
07-16-2009, 08:10 PM
My picks:

Best Drama:

Should win: Dexter
Will win: Breaking Bad

Best Comedy:

Should win: How I Met Your Mother
Will in: 30 Rock

Best Actor in a Drama Series:

Should win: Michael C. Hall
Will win: Bryan Cranston

Best Actress in a Drama Series:

Should and will win: Elisabeth Moss

Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series:

Should and will win: Aaron Paul

Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series:

Should win: Rose Byrne
Will win: Hope Davis

Best Actor in a Comedy Series:

Should and will win: Jim Parsons

Best Actress in a Comedy Series:

Should win: Toni Collette
Will win: Tina Fey

Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series:

Should and will win: Neil Patrick Harris

Best Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series:

Should win: Kristin Chenoweth
Will win: Jane Krakowski

Peter000
07-16-2009, 09:08 PM
I hope "Dexter" takes home an Emmy. Michael C. Hall is phenomenal in that role, he should get the "Best Actor in a Drama" nod.

DevdogAZ
07-16-2009, 09:19 PM
Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series:

Should and will win: Neil Patrick Harris
Has the host of an awards show like this ever been nominated and won before? That should be interesting to see.

busyba
07-17-2009, 01:45 PM
Has the host of an awards show like this ever been nominated and won before? That should be interesting to see.

Actually, I think one has (or just nominated at least). Damn if I can remember who though.

aindik
07-17-2009, 02:03 PM
One year, they had all five nominees for "best host of a reality show competition" host the Emmys together. One of them won (obviously).

Aniketos
07-17-2009, 02:15 PM
No Chuck not worth watching.

anom
07-17-2009, 05:27 PM
Should and will win: Neil Patrick Harris


Since Jeremy Piven, who owns this category, somehow managed to not even get nominated, maybe.

DevdogAZ
07-17-2009, 06:06 PM
One year, they had all five nominees for "best host of a reality show competition" host the Emmys together. One of them won (obviously).
Good point. I think that was just last year. What an awful experiment that was (except for getting to see more of Heidi Klum, which is never a bad thing).

StacieH
07-17-2009, 07:22 PM
Jim Parsons nominated for Best Actor in a Comedy Series!

Yes!

I was glad to see this, too. A coworker of mine knows him and went to high school with him. She knows I'm a fan of the show and told me about it.

IJustLikeTivo
07-17-2009, 09:15 PM
No Grey's Katherine Heigl. Wonder if she submitted herself this year after her big snit last year?

There is no category for acting like the biggest asshat.

IJustLikeTivo
07-17-2009, 09:17 PM
My picks:

Best Drama:

Should win: Dexter
Will win: Breaking Bad

Best Comedy:

Should win: How I Met Your Mother
Will in: 30 Rock

Best Actor in a Drama Series:

Should win: Michael C. Hall
Will win: Bryan Cranston

Best Actress in a Drama Series:

Should and will win: Elisabeth Moss

Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series:

Should and will win: Aaron Paul

Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series:

Should win: Rose Byrne
Will win: Hope Davis

Best Actor in a Comedy Series:

Should and will win: Jim Parsons

Best Actress in a Comedy Series:

Should win: Toni Collette
Will win: Tina Fey

Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series:

Should and will win: Neil Patrick Harris

Best Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series:

Should win: Kristin Chenoweth
Will win: Jane Krakowski

The only issue I have with this list is that Elizabeth Moss while great is not really in a leading role.

Neenahboy
07-17-2009, 10:36 PM
The only issue I have with this list is that Elizabeth Moss while great is not really in a leading role.

I agree, but this just feels like AMC's year. :)

jlb
07-18-2009, 07:57 AM
I am just stoked to see NPH hosting.......

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 07:20 PM
Football's running long. I believe tonight's 60 Minutes is a repeat, but the guide data doesn't seem to think so. Would CBS have the balls to delay the start of the Emmys?

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 07:42 PM
Okay, they're not totally braindead...it's a shortened edition of 60 Minutes.

MauriAnne
09-20-2009, 08:04 PM
Oh.. NPH singing...and looking sharp. :)

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 08:27 PM
Holy crap, did Neil Patrick Harris get screwed. Wow.

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 08:36 PM
Congratulations to Toni Collette! A much deserved win.

And man, we have quite the night of surprises so far.

Lori
09-20-2009, 08:47 PM
Holy crap, did Neil Patrick Harris get screwed. Wow.

I do think that NPH deserved it...but the Emmy voters are a little behind. Likely that Jon Cryer deserved it three years ago...they'll get caught up to NPH someday. :)

I was really hoping that Jon Cryer would thank John Hughes. Alas, easier for me to write the perfect touching moment from here. :)

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 08:51 PM
And Jim Parsons gets screwed as well...probably more so than NPH.

Lori
09-20-2009, 08:53 PM
And Jim Parsons gets screwed as well...probably more so than NPH.

Agreed. That clip made me laugh almost as hard as the first time I saw it.

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 08:59 PM
And a win for Jeff Probst. He's gonna be insufferable in next week's Survivor blog entry. :D

Lori
09-20-2009, 09:01 PM
And a win for Jeff Probst. He's gonna be insufferable in next week's Survivor blog entry. :D

I don't watch Survivor, so I was pulling for Heidi. :) I would have been pulling for Seacrest, but I thought that he had a crappy year as a host.

firerose818
09-20-2009, 09:04 PM
I wanted Phil to win. He's so hot.

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 09:07 PM
Wow, Tracy Morgan even sounds braindead in real life.

And TAR continues its winning streak. :up: :up:

Lori
09-20-2009, 09:15 PM
Wow, Tracy Morgan even sounds braindead in real life.

And TAR continues its winning streak. :up: :up:

Yeah, I'm not a fan of TM.

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 09:24 PM
Was anyone else expecting more NPH musical numbers by now? Pretty disappointing effort so far aside from the opening. Wouldn't surprise me if this crossed the threshold of lowest rated Emmy telecast ever.

LoadStar
09-20-2009, 09:31 PM
Was anyone else expecting more NPH musical numbers by now? Pretty disappointing effort so far aside from the opening. Wouldn't surprise me if this crossed the threshold of lowest rated Emmy telecast ever.

I TiVoed it and started watching it about 20 minutes ago.

I'm already caught up to live, I've fast forwarded through so much... not just acceptance speeches, but absolutely dreadful attempts at comedy.

NPH is so much better than this. It reminds me of whichever awards show was during the writer's strike, where they had to make it up as they went along..

Oooh, and a glimmer of hope... a Dr. Horrible bit! :D

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 09:31 PM
Okay, never mind. Dr. Horrible!

Lori
09-20-2009, 09:32 PM
Patricia Arquette's dress is, um...well, it's...I mean, there are laws of, you know, physics and, um, gravity and, um...well.

I'm just really glad for double-stick tape.

ThreeSoFar'sBro
09-20-2009, 09:53 PM
Patricia Arquette's dress is, um...well, it's...I mean, there are laws of, you know, physics and, um, gravity and, um...well.

I'm just really glad for double-stick tape.

She is "busting out" all over!

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 10:10 PM
The Daily Show takes both the Variety Writing and Best Variety awards. Must remember to tune in tomorrow for the Stewart/Colbert verbal throwdown.

Lori
09-20-2009, 10:16 PM
I do so love Ricky Gervais.

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 10:20 PM
Michael Emerson takes Supporting Actor in a Drama Series.

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 10:22 PM
Cherry Jones takes Supporting Actress in a Drama Series.

atrac
09-20-2009, 10:37 PM
Michael Emerson takes Supporting Actor in a Drama Series.

Finally! This guy has been brilliant since day one. Better late than never! :)

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 10:41 PM
Glenn Close takes Lead Actress in a Drama Series. Awesome win for another awesome season. Was hoping for an Elisabeth Moss upset, though. If the Mad Men love doesn't start soon, I don't think it'll get any. :(

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 10:50 PM
Bryan Cranston takes Lead Actor in a Drama Series. Quite surprising, but I actually got one right!

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 10:54 PM
30 Rock takes Best Comedy Series. Expected, but really disappointing. I enjoy it as much as the next guy, but they were really off this season.

ThreeSoFar'sBro
09-20-2009, 11:01 PM
Typical Emmys....30 Rock and Jon Stewart. Not saying they don't deserve them (I don't watch either), but it does get repetitive and boring.

Neenahboy
09-20-2009, 11:03 PM
Mad Men takes Best Drama Series. It totally deserves it, but my God, you couldn't have an evening more formulaic than this one. Without a doubt the worst Emmys telecast ever.

Hank
09-21-2009, 12:12 AM
Did anyone else notice that Billy Mays was left out of the "In Memoriam" segment?

Pretty strange -- someone, somewhere must have pointed that out, but he still got cut from the list. Sure, if he *only* did commercials, but he did do a real tv show, too. And you can't claim the adjusted time frame for the awards (last year?), since Swazey was in there too.

Neenahboy
09-21-2009, 12:44 AM
Did anyone else notice that Billy Mays was left out of the "In Memoriam" segment?


Yeah, a lot of the people participating in EW's live blog noticed it as well. It had totally slipped my mind until they mentioned it, actually.

TheMerk
09-21-2009, 12:50 AM
Yeah, a lot of the people participating in EW's live blog noticed it as well. It had totally slipped my mind until they mentioned it, actually.

If the Emmys are like the Oscars, then only members of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences are included in the segment.

Tracy
09-21-2009, 01:45 AM
I thought that "Breakthrough Moment" or whatever it was called was so stupid! And poor Cat Deeley having to host that segment, uncredited, after not getting a nomination in the hosting category for "SYTYCD".

Graymalkin
09-21-2009, 07:23 AM
You can have the best makeup artist in Hollywood, using the finest lipstick and powder, make that pig look really, really good. But in the end, it's still lipstick on a pig. Bleah.

Once again, the Emmys, despite NPH's best efforts with the material they gave him, are dead to me. But Dr. Horrible was great!

TheDewAddict
09-21-2009, 08:40 AM
I wanted Phil to win. He's so hot.

I don't get this (not the 'Phil is hot' part, but thinking he should win). I'm as big a TAR fan as anyone, but Jeff Probst is a way better host than Phil. Jeff is constantly interacting with the players, acts as the ref during challenges, and more or less runs Tribal Council. Phil records a couple of segments introducing challenges, then greats teams as the hit the mat, and maybe asks a few easy questions. I like Phil, he seems like a really nice guy, but Jeff Probst was more deserving.

markz
09-21-2009, 09:00 AM
Okay, they're not totally braindead...it's a shortened edition of 60 Minutes.

"20 Minutes"

Patricia Arquette's dress is, um...well, it's...I mean, there are laws of, you know, physics and, um, gravity and, um...well.

I'm just really glad for double-stick tape.

Yeah, she was looking more like a large than a Medium!

TiVo'Brien
09-21-2009, 09:01 AM
30 Rock takes Best Comedy Series. Expected, but really disappointing. I enjoy it as much as the next guy, but they were really off this season.Agreed. Big Bang Theory should have gotten it instead. :(

refried
09-21-2009, 09:13 AM
Agreed. Big Bang Theory should have gotten it instead. :(

Absolutely! I was interested in seeing that 30 Rock got so many writing nominations. I'll have to watch just those episodes and see if I like it. I tried starting from the beginning of season 1 and I couldn't make it through three episodes. BBT and HIMYM are funny, 30 Rock is not.

jlb
09-21-2009, 09:16 AM
Blake Lively must also be very happy for double stick tape!

Yowza!!!!

wendiness1
09-21-2009, 11:09 AM
I missed most of the program so I have to ask, what was with Silverman's moustache?

billypritchard
09-21-2009, 11:12 AM
I missed most of the program so I have to ask, what was with Silverman's moustache?

She was just being funny. I loved how she never broke character.

markz
09-21-2009, 11:14 AM
I missed most of the program so I have to ask, what was with Silverman's moustache?

She was just being funny. I loved how she never broke character.

Before that when they were telling the nominees for supporting woman in a comedy, Amy Pohler and the other nominees were all wearing funny glasses, eye patches, etc.

danterner
09-21-2009, 11:17 AM
I was really hoping that NPH would win.
And when he didn't, I was really hoping that he would take off his white jacket and don a red one, a la "Dr. Horrible," with the Dr. Horrible finale music playing from the orchestra. That would have made his "bitter" schtick funnier.

I loved that David Boreanaz was one of the only people not introduced with a reference to his prior work. (David Boreanaz is notorious for hating references to his work on Buffy/Angel). So the fact that there was no "you may know him from..." spoke volumes, as did the fact that he co-presented with the guy from True Blood.

Hank
09-21-2009, 11:27 AM
Agreed. Big Bang Theory should have gotten it instead. :(

I disagree. Obviously, so do alot of other people. BBT days are numbered. It's just neither funny nor compelling. It's just geek jokes.

BBT and HIMYM are funny, 30 Rock is not.

Again, I disagree on both counts. Both BBT and HIMYM are just the same old comedy formulas over the last 40 years with retreaded with different characters. I don't think I've heard one original joke in either one. On the other hand, 30 Rock breaks new comedy ground in every episode, and hence, fully deserve the award (again).

photoshopgrl
09-21-2009, 11:38 AM
Agreed. Big Bang Theory should have gotten it instead. :(
Big Bang Theory was up for the Emmy for Best Comedy????

DevdogAZ
09-21-2009, 11:56 AM
Wow, Tracy Morgan even sounds braindead in real life.
I've read that Tracy's character on 30 Rock is not that different from what's he's like in real life.
Finally! This guy has been brilliant since day one. Better late than never! :)
Didn't they say that this was Michael Emerson's second consecutive win?
I don't get this (not the 'Phil is hot' part, but thinking he should win). I'm as big a TAR fan as anyone, but Jeff Probst is a way better host than Phil. Jeff is constantly interacting with the players, acts as the ref during challenges, and more or less runs Tribal Council. Phil records a couple of segments introducing challenges, then greats teams as the hit the mat, and maybe asks a few easy questions. I like Phil, he seems like a really nice guy, but Jeff Probst was more deserving.
This. TAR is great, and I'm glad it won the Best Reality Competition Program, but there's no way Phil deserves to win as host. He doesn't do much at all as far as hosting goes.

refried
09-21-2009, 12:12 PM
Again, I disagree on both counts. Both BBT and HIMYM are just the same old comedy formulas over the last 40 years with retreaded with different characters. I don't think I've heard one original joke in either one. On the other hand, 30 Rock breaks new comedy ground in every episode, and hence, fully deserve the award (again).

How does 30 Rock break new comedy ground? Please explain.

I put 30 Rock Season 3 Disc 3 on the top of my Netflix queue so I can check out three of the nominated episodes. Perhaps it got better than season one, but I'm not hopeful.

USAFSSO
09-21-2009, 12:13 PM
It's about time TAR does what Candice Bergen (Murphy Brown) did in the early 90's and stop submitting/refuse the nomination. It has taken it every year the award has been given, IIRC.

IJustLikeTivo
09-21-2009, 12:20 PM
Agreed. That clip made me laugh almost as hard as the first time I saw it.

The only show I currently have on SUID is that episode. Comic genius.

IJustLikeTivo
09-21-2009, 12:21 PM
And a win for Jeff Probst. He's gonna be insufferable in next week's Survivor blog entry. :D

And his show lost, again, to TAR.... Ha!

DUDE_NJX
09-21-2009, 12:21 PM
I've read that Tracy's character on 30 Rock is not that different from what's he's like in real life.

Didn't they say that this was Michael Emerson's second consecutive win?

This. TAR is great, and I'm glad it won the Best Reality Competition Program, but there's no way Phil deserves to win as host. He doesn't do much at all as far as hosting goes.


I've met TM in real life - before 30 Rock.
He truly is just like his character on that show.

TiVoJedi
09-21-2009, 12:23 PM
Again, I disagree on both counts. Both BBT and HIMYM are just the same old comedy formulas over the last 40 years with retreaded with different characters. I don't think I've heard one original joke in either one. On the other hand, 30 Rock breaks new comedy ground in every episode, and hence, fully deserve the award (again).

Hmm.. what other comedy in the last 40 years has done "Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock" joke?

IJustLikeTivo
09-21-2009, 12:23 PM
Mad Men takes Best Drama Series. It totally deserves it, but my God, you couldn't have an evening more formulaic than this one. Without a doubt the worst Emmys telecast ever.

Always amazes me when a show wins but the actors don't. How does that happen? I understand my Elizabeth didn't win, she's in the wrong category but John Hamm's part is way more difficult than Brian Cranston's.

DUDE_NJX
09-21-2009, 12:26 PM
TAR: How many Emmys does it take to justify a switch to HD?
Isn't it CBS's ONLY primetime show in SD?

IJustLikeTivo
09-21-2009, 12:26 PM
I don't get this (not the 'Phil is hot' part, but thinking he should win). I'm as big a TAR fan as anyone, but Jeff Probst is a way better host than Phil. Jeff is constantly interacting with the players, acts as the ref during challenges, and more or less runs Tribal Council. Phil records a couple of segments introducing challenges, then greats teams as the hit the mat, and maybe asks a few easy questions. I like Phil, he seems like a really nice guy, but Jeff Probst was more deserving.

I think the voter's get it right every year. Probst is a better host but TAR is a better show.

Hank
09-21-2009, 12:35 PM
The only show I currently have on SUID is that episode. Comic genius.

Which episode?

Hmm.. what other comedy in the last 40 years has done "Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock" joke?

Maybe not the *exact* "joke", but like I said, they're all retreads of older jokes, but this time, with geeks! I find the characters flat and not really funny. How many times in each episode do we have to be reminded that the geeks *don't* get the girl? Sure, the individual actors are good, but the material they are given just isn't. Like I said in one of the BBT threads, the novelty of the science/comic/computer/geek jokes is going to wear off... and wear off quick.

On every episode, I can pretty much tell that I'm going to get the same type of humor, the same type of dialog, the same type of jokes. With 30 Rock, I NEVER know what they're going to pull next. It's different, and funny, every single time. And no two shows are alike.

jimborst
09-21-2009, 12:43 PM
I disagree. Obviously, so do alot of other people. BBT days are numbered.

How can you say that, BBT's ratings have only gone up since the first season. I still think it is the funniest comedy on the air but some just have different tastes than me. I really don't get the "days are numbered".

Magnolia88
09-21-2009, 12:57 PM
I don't watch BBT, but there is no way that HIMYM is anywhere near as funny as 30 Rock.

I like HIMYM and it's a good solid show, but far from groundbreaking or award-worthy. NPH is most of what makes that show good. I stopped watching it this year because it was starting to get monotonous. And there couldn't be a more boring and less charismatic lead character.

30 Rock is consistently flat-out hilarious imho and totally deserved to win. I know people are bemoaning the repeat wins for both 30 Rock and Mad Men, but they would have gotten my votes too.

Toni Collette winning was a big surprise.

I loved John Hodgman's bits of "trivia" about the winners and I enjoyed the "you might remember her as" credits. I also loved Ricky Gervais. He is always the highlight of any awards show when he makes an appearance.

I was annoyed by the Drama montage, with CBS filling it up with clips from all the CBS procedurals. Shouldn't they have tried to get the actual, um, nominees in there? :rolleyes:

I like Phil Keoghan but I don't have a problem with him not winning for host b/c I understand that Probst is a bigger part of his show. I'm glad that TAR the show won, though, even if it's getting old. The producers and editors do a great job, and I only wish I could say that about other reality shows. (I don't watch Survivor but I can't imagine choosing Project Runway over TAR as much as I enjoy PR).

Ment
09-21-2009, 01:00 PM
On every episode, I can pretty much tell that I'm going to get the same type of humor, the same type of dialog, the same type of jokes. With 30 Rock, I NEVER know what they're going to pull next. It's different, and funny, every single time. And no two shows are alike.

I agree BBT is more formulaic than 30 Rock. Brilliantly done but not new.

markz
09-21-2009, 01:00 PM
I think the voter's get it right every year. Probst is a better host but TAR is a better show.

I agree completely!

wendiness1
09-21-2009, 01:01 PM
Thanks, billypritchard and markz. I'm relieved.

Hank
09-21-2009, 01:05 PM
Ok, here's your typical BBT episode (mix and match to create your own!)

- eating take out food, talking about
a. something Penny doesn't understand
b. One of Sheldon's OCDs
c. Howard trying to score

- anyone but Leonard walking up the stairway, talking about Leonard (which, BTW, this plot device is getting really tiresome already -- we get it -- the elevator is broken -- it's just painful to watch these scenes, when we all know full well that there's only two sets with the elevator door (lobby and the rest, which they redress for each "floor". BORING!. they might even have just one set for both Lobby and other floors and move the lobby door in and out. )

- knock,knock,knock, Penny. (repeat three times, at least twice per show). Got it. Not funny anymore.

- some sexual innuendo about how Penny and Lenard didn't get it on

- some sexual innuendo about how Penny and one of the others did (but not really)

- some gratuitous science/comic/computer/star trek/star wars sub plot only geeks will truly get, but entirely not relevant to the main plot

- resolution that involves Sheldon learning something about himself that everyone else already knew

- Sheldon being clueless about two or more normal human interactions

- Howard hitting on everything that moves

- Howard striking out on everything that moves

- Koothrappali not talking to girls (we get it, it's dumb)

I think that's about it. I think I should make a "Big Bang Theory" bingo card with these on it... that would be a fun way to make this show entertaining.

markz
09-21-2009, 01:11 PM
Ok, here's your typical BBT episode (mix and match to create your own!)

- eating take out food, talking about
a. something Penny doesn't understand
b. One of Sheldon's OCDs
c. Howard trying to score

- anyone but Leonard walking up the stairway, talking about Leonard (which, BTW, this plot device is getting really tiresome already -- we get it -- the elevator is broken -- it's just painful to watch these scenes, when we all know full well that there's only two sets with the elevator door (lobby and the rest, which they redress for each "floor". BORING!. they might even have just one set for both Lobby and other floors and move the lobby door in and out. )

- knock,knock,knock, Penny. (repeat three times, at least twice per show). Got it. Not funny anymore.

- some sexual innuendo about how Penny and Lenard didn't get it on

- some sexual innuendo about how Penny and one of the others did (but not really)

- some gratuitous science/comic/computer/star trek/star ward sub plot only geeks will truly get, but entirely not relevant to the main plot

- resolution that involves Sheldon learning something about himself that everyone else already knew

- Sheldon being clueless about two or more normal human interactions

- Howard hitting on everything that moves

- Howard striking out on everything that moves

- Koothrappali not talking to girls (we get it, it's dumb)

I think that's about it. I think I should make a "Big Bang Theory" bingo card with these on it... that would be a fun way to make this show entertaining.

I just laughed at that episode too! I love the show! :)

YCantAngieRead
09-21-2009, 01:12 PM
I love both Big Bang Theory and 30 Rock. In fact, they're probably both in my top five shows on right now, if not the top two.

But there's no way BBT should beat 30 Rock for best comedy.

(Although I do agree Jim Parsons should have won in his category over Alec Balwin [even though I love both]. Parson's character makes that show.)

YCantAngieRead
09-21-2009, 01:13 PM
Also, IMHO, NPH was robbed.

Hank
09-21-2009, 01:13 PM
I just laughed at that episode too! I love the show! :)


:up:

IJustLikeTivo
09-21-2009, 01:27 PM
Which episode?



The Spock DNA episode I believe the title was "The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis". The ending was pure comic genius.

Jeeters
09-21-2009, 01:35 PM
Didn't they say that this was Michael Emerson's second consecutive win?No, they just said it was his second win. He won a few years ago when for a recurring role (a serial killer) he had on "The Practice". That character had some similarities to his Lost character of Ben, and I've always thought that The Practice role is what got him the job on Lost.

Magnolia88
09-21-2009, 01:36 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention 2 more things: I thought the Dr. Horrible bit was very funny even though I haven't seen the real Dr. Horrible. But NPH and Nathan Fillion are always funny, and I loved the buffering bit.

Did anyone over the age of 12 find that Family Guy clip funny? I thought it was appallingly unfunny. Abusing a dog is funny? :(

Jeeters
09-21-2009, 01:42 PM
Did anyone over the age of 12 find that Family Guy clip funny? I thought it was appallingly unfunny. Abusing a dog is funny? :(I didn't find it funny at all. I wasn't offended or repulsed by it; I merely found it completely devoid of humor.

DancnDude
09-21-2009, 01:50 PM
Did anyone over the age of 12 find that Family Guy clip funny? I thought it was appallingly unfunny. Abusing a dog is funny? :(

Not funny, and a rehash. They just dubbed in the words "emmy" instead of "money" and used the same exact animation as the episode when it aired.

I have to say though the Emmys were boring this year, I loved the set. The production values were awesome...the moving video screens, the band and control room on the stage, it was all very top-notch.

I don't know about anybody else, but I think they should get rid of the miniseries/made for TV movie categories from the telecast. It's always so boring (I don't think I had even heard of 1 of the miniseries that were nominated) and the show would be long enough as it is without all that boring crap.

markz
09-21-2009, 01:52 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention 2 more things: I thought the Dr. Horrible bit was very funny even though I haven't seen the real Dr. Horrible. But NPH and Nathan Fillion are always funny, and I loved the buffering bit.

You should buy it! $9.99 at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Horribles-Sing-Along-Blog-Patrick-Harris/dp/B001M5UDGS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1253555453&sr=8-1). It is well worth the money!

Hank
09-21-2009, 01:55 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention 2 more things: I thought the Dr. Horrible bit was very funny even though I haven't seen the real Dr. Horrible. But NPH and Nathan Fillion are always funny, and I loved the buffering bit.

Did anyone over the age of 12 find that Family Guy clip funny? I thought it was appallingly unfunny. Abusing a dog is funny? :(

It was horribly, appallingly unfunny. It went way too far, and didn't make any sense at all (unless you watched FG).

I really like alot of the 'behind the scenes' type things they threw in, like the "RUNNING LONG" clock. I also really liked how on some awards, they let the nominees do their own skits -- like the best writing for a variety show -- the daily show and conan obrien.. in fact, they were all funny.

Neenahboy
09-21-2009, 01:57 PM
The numbers are in: 13.3 million viewers, an 11% increase over last year and the most-watched Emmy telecast since 2006. Not that that means a whole lot.

Supfreak26
09-21-2009, 02:15 PM
My favorites:

Best Drama - Breaking Bad (Lost is great but this show is simply amazing.)

Best Comedy - The Office (although I think 30 Rock will win again)

Drama Actor - Bryan Cranston, "Breaking Bad" (Only one I watch but he is excellent!

Drama Actress - Don't watch any of these.

SActor Drama - Michael Emerson (he won't win, but he plays the creepy Ben to perfection) I agree with this!

SActress Drama - Cherry Jones I guess. Only because it's the only show I watch.

Actor Comedy - Jim Parsons is the man.

Actress Comedy - Tina Fey. I love her.

SActor Comedy - Love all these guys. I'm going with Rainn Wilson.

SActress Comedy - Kristin Chenoweth (Anyone else find it wierd that 2 SNL people were nominated?)

I did pretty well! Missed the show, though. To be honest, I had no idea they were on until I went to Yahoo.com this morning. lol

DevdogAZ
09-21-2009, 02:16 PM
Always amazes me when a show wins but the actors don't. How does that happen? I understand my Elizabeth didn't win, she's in the wrong category but John Hamm's part is way more difficult than Brian Cranston's.
I disagree that Brian Cranston didn't deserve to win over John Hamm. Hamm is great as Don Draper, but the role doesn't really require him to show much emotion. On the other hand, Brian Cranston's character is in an increasingly desperate situation and he alternates between playing it cool and freaking out and trying to hide it all from his wife and brother in law, and trying to still be "the man" from his partner's point of view, and trying to stay ahead of his cancer, etc. I think his performance in Breaking Bad is definitely the best of those that were nominated (that I watched), and far better than John Hamm's.

DevdogAZ
09-21-2009, 02:24 PM
I can't believe nobody has mentioned the Jimmy Fallon autotune bit. That was very funny.

Could Ricky Gervais really not find the mic, or was that just part of his schtick?

And I must have fallen asleep for a bit in the middle, because I didn't see the Dr. Horrible bit. Hopefully I didn't delete it yet and can go back and watch that part tonight.

hapdrastic
09-21-2009, 02:30 PM
I can't believe nobody has mentioned the Jimmy Fallon autotune bit. That was very funny.

The Jimmy Fallon thing had my wife and I in tears!

I only tivo'd the show because NPH was hosting and I wanted to watch the Dr. Horrible thing, but I enjoyed watching it, overall.

I think Cat Deeley was robbed for not having even been nominated as best host (or whatever that category was). And Jim Parsons absolutely robbed in his category - that was my favorite moment in television all year.

Also, people need to learn that comedy is subjective. BBT is the funniest show on television to me, but my wife just looks at me like I'm from Mars when we watch the show and I'm pausing every few minutes to laugh, and we normally gel really well on humor. For me, 30 Rock is funny, but more in a "oh, that's funny" kinda way, and not in a literal LOL type of way. Different things for different people....

busyba
09-21-2009, 02:56 PM
Could Ricky Gervais really not find the mic, or was that just part of his schtick?

It looked to me that it wasn't a matter of him not being able to find it, but that whoever was in charge of the remote control that raises/lowers the mic simply forgot to make it come up out of the floor until Ricky was standing there trying to figure out what to do.

cheesesteak
09-21-2009, 03:17 PM
Cherry Jones won for playing the dumbest President of the United States?

DUDE_NJX
09-21-2009, 03:18 PM
Yes. W wasn't eligible.

Neenahboy
09-21-2009, 03:27 PM
Today's Oprah went back to the 60s with Mad Men's Jon Hamm and January Jones.

cheesesteak
09-21-2009, 03:28 PM
I disagree that Brian Cranston didn't deserve to win over John Hamm. Hamm is great as Don Draper, but the role doesn't really require him to show much emotion. On the other hand, Brian Cranston's character is in an increasingly desperate situation and he alternates between playing it cool and freaking out and trying to hide it all from his wife and brother in law, and trying to still be "the man" from his partner's point of view, and trying to stay ahead of his cancer, etc. I think his performance in Breaking Bad is definitely the best of those that were nominated (that I watched), and far better than John Hamm's.
I agree. Don Draper is a monotone character. Happy Don is essentially the same as angry Don. Reminds me of Russell Crowe winning an Oscar for a similarly flat-lined emotional character in Gladiator. The Walter White character has a much greater emotional range and Bryan Cranston does a great job with it.

LoadStar
09-21-2009, 03:44 PM
It looked to me that it wasn't a matter of him not being able to find it, but that whoever was in charge of the remote control that raises/lowers the mic simply forgot to make it come up out of the floor until Ricky was standing there trying to figure out what to do.

I think the microphone isn't raised into position until the presenter walks up to the "mark." The problem appeared that Ricky just completely missed his mark (NPH looked like he had to come over and show him where the mark was.)

Alpinemaps
09-21-2009, 03:46 PM
She was just being funny. I loved how she never broke character.

What is the time stamp the Sarah Silverman bit? I saw it while I was watching last night (Tivo delayed, of course), but couldn't find it again this morning when I was showing my wife the highlights from last night.

It's about time TAR does what Candice Bergen (Murphy Brown) did in the early 90's and stop submitting/refuse the nomination. It has taken it every year the award has been given, IIRC.

Nah, I disagree. The folks are top-notch, and they deserve to be recognized.

hummingbird_206
09-21-2009, 04:00 PM
Oooh, and a glimmer of hope... a Dr. Horrible bit! :D

Okay, never mind. Dr. Horrible!

Loved the Dr Horrible bit. What Piano Playing Cat was Hammer talking about?

busyba
09-21-2009, 04:03 PM
I think the microphone isn't raised into position until the presenter walks up to the "mark." The problem appeared that Ricky just completely missed his mark (NPH looked like he had to come over and show him where the mark was.)

I dunno... as far as I can remember, every other presenter walked up to the mic that was already there; I never noticed it being made to appear after the fact for anyone else, to the point where it didn't even occur to me that it was a hideaway mic until the Ricky flub.

busyba
09-21-2009, 04:04 PM
Loved the Dr Horrible bit. What Piano Playing Cat was Hammer talking about?

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=piano+playing+cat&search_type=&aq=0&oq=piano+pla

hummingbird_206
09-21-2009, 04:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=piano+playing+cat&search_type=&aq=0&oq=piano+pla

lol. I obviously don't hang out on youtube enough. Thanks!

LoadStar
09-21-2009, 05:16 PM
It's about time TAR does what Candice Bergen (Murphy Brown) did in the early 90's and stop submitting/refuse the nomination. It has taken it every year the award has been given, IIRC.

If they were to do this, then The Daily Show would have to do the same; they've won consistently since 2003.

Neenahboy
09-21-2009, 05:21 PM
If they were to do this, then The Daily Show would have to do the same; they've won consistently since 2003.

Didn't Colbert win last year?

trainman
09-21-2009, 05:34 PM
The Daily Show takes both the Variety Writing and Best Variety awards. Must remember to tune in tomorrow for the Stewart/Colbert verbal throwdown.

Tuesday, actually -- they never do new shows the day after the Emmys. Too much partying for them to do Sunday night redeye flights, so they have to spend Monday flying back to New York.

Jeeters
09-21-2009, 05:42 PM
Didn't Colbert win last year?According to imdb, The Daily Show has won from 2003-2009, and also 2001. Which is all the years it's been nominated except for 2002 in which it lost to Letterman.

DevdogAZ
09-21-2009, 07:21 PM
The Colbert Report did win an Emmy in 2008, but it was for writing, not for Best Variety Show, which went to TDS.

See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458254/awards

gossamer88
09-21-2009, 07:54 PM
Am I the only one tired of seeing TAR win Best Reality Show? Apparently so is Jeff Probst (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/jeff-probst-the-amazing-race-should-pull-itself-from-emmy-category-9575.php). And I agree. Don't get me wrong, we've been watching TAR since day one and it's one my favorites. But c'mon already!! Who's voting for these shows anyway?

I thought AI and DWTS were very much worthy. Not to mention Tom Bergeron as best host. In fact he and Seacrest were better than Probst.

Waldorf
09-21-2009, 09:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=piano+playing+cat&search_type=&aq=0&oq=piano+pla

"keyboard cat" is what I was thinking, but yeah... could just be piano-playing cats in general.

Just wanted to join the discussion and heap praises upon Neil. I have a NPH wishlist that has been picking up the other award shows he's been hosting (TV Land awards were interesting) and I was super happy to see a Dr. Horrible (and even Captain Hammer!) cameo.

I'm a bit surprised Neil wasn't able to squeeze a magic trick in there somewhere. Oh well, maybe he can host again next year. What a crazy random happenstance that would be! :)

DevdogAZ
09-22-2009, 02:33 AM
Am I the only one tired of seeing TAR win Best Reality Show? Apparently so is Jeff Probst (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/jeff-probst-the-amazing-race-should-pull-itself-from-emmy-category-9575.php). And I agree. Don't get me wrong, we've been watching TAR since day one and it's one my favorites. But c'mon already!! Who's voting for these shows anyway?

I thought AI and DWTS were very much worthy. Not to mention Tom Bergeron as best host. In fact he and Seacrest were better than Probst.
Totally disagree. Why should TAR not be rewarded for being the best produced reality competition show on the planet? AI and DTWS don't even hold a candle to TAR when it comes to production values.

IJustLikeTivo
09-22-2009, 06:19 AM
Am I the only one tired of seeing TAR win Best Reality Show? Apparently so is Jeff Probst (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/jeff-probst-the-amazing-race-should-pull-itself-from-emmy-category-9575.php). And I agree. Don't get me wrong, we've been watching TAR since day one and it's one my favorites. But c'mon already!! Who's voting for these shows anyway?

I thought AI and DWTS were very much worthy. Not to mention Tom Bergeron as best host. In fact he and Seacrest were better than Probst.

They should retire right after he does. What a whiny little punk.

atrac
09-22-2009, 06:47 AM
When Shohreh Aghdashloo won and accepted her award, I swear it sounded like there was some phlegm deep in her lungs that needed to be coughed up every time she took a breath. Frankly, it grossed me out.

"Behrooozzzz!!!" ;)

Hank
09-22-2009, 11:02 AM
The Spock DNA episode I believe the title was "The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis". The ending was pure comic genius.

For research purposes, I just re-watched that episode, and I'll admit, that one episode had some pretty good funny parts to it. While The Sheldon gift exchange reveal was good, I felt the Penny/Lenard "egg nog" scene previous to that really made me laugh. Also, if you look closely, you can see Penny actually laughing herself, trying to hold it in.

busyba
09-22-2009, 12:08 PM
When Shohreh Aghdashloo won and accepted her award, I swear it sounded like there was some phlegm deep in her lungs that needed to be coughed up every time she took a breath. Frankly, it grossed me out.

No kidding! Girlfriend needs to lay off the Marlboros.

(I was going to say Camels instead of Marlboros, but that's too obvious a joke, even for me. :))



"Behrooozzzz!!!" ;)

I was thinking the same thing. :D