Can TivoHD be set to connect more than once a day?

[slimjim867]

Well, i guess that this title might be misleading.
The reason for the question is.....
If i order Tivo to record a show via their web interface, how much lead time do i need?

[DancnDude]

I believe if you have your TiVo connected to a network connection (internet instead of dialup) then it will check every 15 minutes or so. I would give it a lead time of an hour to be safe if you can. On dialup it's much less often. I think it may be just with the daily call.

[slimjim867]

I believe if you have your TiVo connected to a network connection (internet instead of dialup) then it will check every 15 minutes or so. I would give it a lead time of an hour to be safe if you can. On dialup it's much less often. I think it may be just with the daily call.

sounds good. Thanks

[Leadership]

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[jjberger2134]

According to this TiVo help article, the TiVo will check once an hour if connected via broadband. Thus, I would give about 1 1/2 to 2 hours to be safe.

http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/163/kw/online%20scheduling/r_id/100041

[slimjim867]

According to this TiVo help article, the TiVo will check once an hour if connected via broadband. Thus, I would give about 1 1/2 to 2 hours to be safe.

http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/163/kw/online%20scheduling/r_id/100041

I experimented.... asked it to record a show in progress. It began recording before the show ran out. Did it twice, once with a half hour show and once again but i don't remember the show length.

[jjberger2134]

I experimented.... asked it to record a show in progress. It began recording before the show ran out. Did it twice, once with a half hour show and once again but i don't remember the show length.

Sounds good, but I would not rely on that shorter time exclusively. You may have just gotten lucky that your TiVo searched for online requests shortly after you entered the info.

[ZeoTiVo]

Sounds good, but I would not rely on that shorter time exclusively. You may have just gotten lucky that your TiVo searched for online requests shortly after you entered the info.

that support page is WAY out of date. It is for the BETA of online scheduling from way back.

a broadband connected TiVo checks every 15 minutes or so at least. TiVo does suggest you schedule an hour beforehand to ensure the recording happens.

[jjberger2134]

that support page is WAY out of date. It is for the BETA of online scheduling from way back.

a broadband connected TiVo checks every 15 minutes or so at least. TiVo does suggest you schedule an hour beforehand to ensure the recording happens.

Really? I have no reason to doubt you, but if you are correct then, then TiVo needs to update the Details section (near the bottom) where it says that page was last updated 6/26/09.

[ZeoTiVo]

Really? I have no reason to doubt you, but if you are correct then, then TiVo needs to update the Details section (near the bottom) where it says that page was last updated 6/26/09.

lots of the support pages say they have been updated recently - I think that would be for anything that touched them. The online scheduling has certainly left the BETA stage a long time ago - so even if updated by hand many things were missed.

[scandia101]

Really?

Yes, really.

[Dan203]

Actually even the 15 minute rule is out of date. A few versions back TiVo switched over to a system which uses an instant messaging protocol to send recording and download requests to the TiVo. So basically when you schedule a recording via the web it sends an IM to your TiVo telling it there is new scheduling data and then the TiVo calls in immediately. It still takes a couple of minutes for the request to propagate through TiVo's servers, but it's less then 15.

This is also how you're able to order an Amazon movie and have it start downloading in a couple of minutes rather then having to wait 15.

Dan

[CrispyCritter]

Actually even the 15 minute rule is out of date. A few versions back TiVo switched over to a system which uses an instant messaging protocol to send recording and download requests to the TiVo. So basically when you schedule a recording via the web it sends an IM to your TiVo telling it there is new scheduling data and then the TiVo calls in immediately. It still takes a couple of minutes for the request to propagate through TiVo's servers, but it's less then 15.

This is also how you're able to order an Amazon movie and have it start downloading in a couple of minutes rather then having to wait 15.

Dan
I think that's close. Not quite right since TiVo the company has no way to initiate a contact with your individual TiVo - they can't directly send an IM.

I was doing some network debugging yesterday and got a dump of all packets for a couple of hours. Each of my TiVos contacted tivochat1 every 10 seconds and got a response. Presumably the response would indicate that the TiVo would have to initiate a contact to someplace else if the user had scheduled something.

The TiVos were busy: each TiVo contacted another server every 65 minutes for a more extended conversation, and then each TiVo plus a PC contacted a third TiVo.com site a couple of times (this seemed more random). And then in addition, I saw one daily call from a TiVo, and that contacted 3-4 TiVo.com sites during the session. Lots happening behind the scenes!

[Dan203]

OK I wasn't 100% clear on how the whole IM thing worked. Apparently, based on your tests, the TiVo sends an IM to the TiVo server every 10 seconds and the TiVo server responds with a simple yes/no type answer telling it if there is something new or not. So the minimum lag time for an update is 10 seconds plus the length of the call to get the actual data.

Dan

[bkdtv]

OK I wasn't 100% clear on how the whole IM thing worked. Apparently, based on your tests, the TiVo sends an IM to the TiVo server every 10 seconds and the TiVo server responds with a simple yes/no type answer telling it if there is something new or not. So the minimum lag time for an update is 10 seconds plus the length of the call to get the actual data.That's good to know. Thanks.