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Kamakzie
04-21-2009, 08:05 PM
Lil - 1-866-IDOLS-01 - Shaka Khan "I'm every woman" - It was better than last week but I still think its her time to go home.

Kris - 1-866-IDOLS-02 - Donna Summer "She works hard for the money" - Hmmm I liked it more than I thought I was going to. Pretty good.

Danny - 1-866-IDOLS-03 - Earth, Wind & Fire "September" - Hmmm, I thought it was alright... I like that song quite a bit. He gave it his all.

Allison - 1-866-IDOLS-04 - Donna Summer "Hot Stuff" - I liked it. She did well with what she had to work with.

Adam - 1-866-IDOLS-05 - Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack "If I can't have you" - It was really good but I could live without his little bit of shrieking every song. I'd like his performances more if he would lay off of that.

Matt - 1-866-IDOLS-06 - Bee Gees "Stayin' Alive" - I thought it was alright but I kind of think he is done along with Lil this week just like the bottom 2 was last week.

Anoop - 1-866-IDOLS-07 - Donna Summer "Dim all the lights down" - I thought he did pretty good.

I think Matt and Lil go home tomorrow.

gossamer88
04-21-2009, 08:16 PM
Loved Kris' Santana-ish take on "She works hard fro the money".

gossamer88
04-21-2009, 09:03 PM
Lil's gotta go.

Danny is losing it for me.

Allison is my favorite but not tonight.

Adam was original as usual.

Matt blew his second chance.

Anoop is lucky Lil and Matt were terrible.

JPA2825
04-21-2009, 09:06 PM
Who is the 80's rock star with the blonde in the audience tonight?

walkerism
04-21-2009, 09:16 PM
Who is the 80's rock star with the blonde in the audience tonight?

Vince Neil from Motley Crue

Mr. Soze
04-21-2009, 09:45 PM
Lil is gone for sure. I think Simon thinks Allison is in trouble and doesn't want 5 guys left, so he was overly harsh on Matt and Anoop. I think Allison IS in trouble. I feel bad for her, and it just shows how idiotic it was to use the save on Matt last week. :down:

For the first time, I enjoyed Kris, but still not more than Adam, who I thought was excellent again, and Danny. When Ryan said he was singing "September" I said to Mrs. S. that that was a BRILLIANT song choice, and he pulled it off.

gossamer88
04-21-2009, 09:58 PM
Vince Neil from Motley Crue

In the results show AI plays a remake of "Home Sweet Home", which is a Mötley Crüe song.

Just checked iTunes (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=306496937&s=143441). Had no idea that was Carrie Underwood!

Ment
04-21-2009, 10:00 PM
Lil: Gonzo..she lost whatever she had and hasn't found it yet.

Kris: Not a big fan of Kris but this was the first time is said 'wow'. That was a great take on a female disco classic.

Danny: he sounded like a version of Michael McDonald and a poor one at that.

Allison: That was a stupendous reveal out the stage so maybe I expected too much to go up from there. Her performance was good but I expected a stronger finish.

Adam: Hell yeah that's the way to sing it. If that doesn't make you want to call your husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend then you don't have a heart. Great..great once again.

Matt: Just don't see that he really elevated himself. Still see him in the bottom two

Anoop: wasn't great wasn't bad.. just forgettable which may not be good for him in the voting.

Matt and Lil bottom two...Lil goes home.

gossamer88
04-21-2009, 10:04 PM
Matt and Lil bottom two...Lil goes home.
Don't forget that two go home.

Ment
04-21-2009, 10:07 PM
Don't forget that two go home.

Damn Simon, of course you're right.

Jesda
04-21-2009, 10:18 PM
There's emotion, then there's Adam's annoying shrieking. Its too bad, because otherwise he's perfect.

LoadStar
04-21-2009, 10:18 PM
Best of the night was Kris, easily, followed by Danny and Adam (though I still am not feeling what he's putting down... sorry, I just don't like him).

Allison and Anoop were mid-pack... not great, not horrible.

And finally, Matt and Lil are both well deserving of going home this week.

uncdrew
04-21-2009, 10:19 PM
Blech. Another week of nothin' much.

Getting sick of Adam's signature girly-shriek.


Matt, we voted you out once, we're gonna do it again. :)

LoadStar
04-21-2009, 10:24 PM
There's emotion, then there's Adam's annoying shrieking.

Agreed.

Also, another thing that bugs me, is that none of Adam's stuff feels genuine to me. They all feel like they're pieces from Adam: The Broadway Musical. Danny and Kris, while seeming less "technical," both feel more _real_ and to me, I greatly prefer either to Adam.

uncdrew
04-21-2009, 10:28 PM
Agreed.

Also, another thing that bugs me, is that none of Adam's stuff feels genuine to me. They all feel like they're pieces from Adam: The Broadway Musical. Danny and Kris, while seeming less "technical," both feel more _real_ and to me, I greatly prefer either to Adam.

I agree.


I'm no music buff, but Adam is starting to be all about:

Take a disco song and do it rock ballad
Take a country song and do it goth
Take a 50s song and do it grunge


I'm tired of it.

Einselen
04-21-2009, 10:31 PM
I thought Kris was best of the night followed by Adam (so much so I think I may pick up Kris' iTunes version). It is hard to see where the rest will fall into place especially with two going home and also it is Disco week and different arrangements.

I think it should be Matt and Lil' (Matt though did a lot better this week though except for the ending) but I think Anoop or Danny/Allison could be a casualty in there. I am switching back and forth on who I think should be with Kris and Adam in the Top 3 (between Danny/Allison) and then the rest should all be worried. Personally I think Allison did a little better then Danny so I think I have to add her to my Top 3 for the night.

TheAdmiral
04-21-2009, 10:34 PM
My picks for the bottom are:

Matt Giraud - Bottom but safe.
Anoop - Out.
Lillian - A big and long over due Buh Bye.


From the beginning when we had 13 left, I thought the last four standing would be:
Allison-4th place
Danny-3rd place
Kris-2nd place
Adam-Winner

LoadStar
04-21-2009, 10:37 PM
I don't care right now whether or not DialIdol is considered a spoiler. All I'll say is:

WTF? Who (and WHY) are these people voting for Lil? And no, don't tell me VFTW, they definitely don't have that much sway.

Einselen
04-21-2009, 10:48 PM
I don't care right now whether or not DialIdol is considered a spoiler. All I'll say is:

WTF? Who (and WHY) are these people voting for Lil? And no, don't tell me VFTW, they definitely don't have that much sway.

I have not looked at DI yet, I typically check around midnight or so and then the next morning.

Last week she was in the second spot for raw score (everyone but Danny was listed as possibly coming in 7th with ME) so I wouldn't take too much consideration into DI positioning, just look for the green and you know those people are for sure safe and the yellow could be going home.

With that said I think DI will not have a prediction of who will be safe this week.

toddvj
04-21-2009, 11:27 PM
Adam has definitely won me over. I hated him at first, he was brilliant tonight.

Matt & Lil sucked, Danny was not much better. Either was Anoop.

At least Matt wore a hat tonight, so I didn't have to look at that Wart on his forehead. What is that, like his third eye?

If Matt stays and Allison goes I will be very upset.

Lori
04-21-2009, 11:38 PM
Adam was, as usual, mesmerizing.

Here's what's interesting for me. I am a spoiler junkie. I'll be watching something...say, Lost...and I will get bored, and will go online to see how it ends.

Tonight, I was turning on Idol, and I hit TC, just as I would any other night, and then it occurred to me that if I looked at the thread, I would be spoiled for what Adam was going to sing...and I want to wait for him to surprise me.

I look forward every week to what he's going to do next...and I dread the finals, because it till mean that he won't come visit every Tuesday and sing me a new song.

I guess I'm saying that I really, really heart Adam. :)

MickeS
04-21-2009, 11:46 PM
Lil: yikes, that was awful. It's like she has the physical ability to sing, but has no technical skills at all. Bad.

Kris: Awesome, fun, relaxed, different, yet stuck to the terrific original melody. Second best of the night.

Danny: wow, talk about karaoke and phoning it in, Danny Hokey. ;) Lazy, dull, insignificant. Hope he goes home with Lil.

Allison: loved the power ballad arrangement. A little too theatrical performance, but I want her to stay.

Adam: best of the night. Great arrangement, kept the melody intact, fantastic vocals.

Matt: he was to me what the judges said Danny was - great voice, so-so arrangement, but fun and somewhat up to date.

Anoop: as Kara said, I could actually imagine it played on the radio. Good singing, nice style, overall pretty good.


I usually agree with Simon, but he was WAY off tonight with regards to Anoop. Randy said pretty much what I was thinking all night, except for Danny. No idea what they see in him anymore. Like Lil, he just keeps getting progressively worse, though she is exponentially so, and Danny is pretty linear.

timckelley
04-21-2009, 11:50 PM
I cannot believe how throughly Lil stunk up the stage tonight. One of her worst performances. More yelling than singing. So she's my pick for the worst, and if she's not eliminated tommorrow something seriously wrong is happening.

After that, it's not so clear, but unlike most of you, I actually rank Danny as the second worst. Not nearly as bad as Lil, but he basically yells instead of sings too, especially tonight. After that, the 3rd worst is probably Allison.

Kris and Adam are my favorite two for the night, so that leaves Anoop and Matt square in the middle, in my mind. I'm not sure why Simon was so harsh on Anoop, and I didn't get the raving reviews of Allison.

I hope it's Lil and Danny going, but somehow I think America is not going to eliminate Danny. That's fine, but it'll be annoying if Danny makes it anywhere close to the finals. I just don't see much talent in him.

Johnny Dancing
04-22-2009, 12:05 AM
Lil - It took me about 30 seconds to realize Lil wasn't doing the start of a group sing along. Wow was she bad, just screaming the song. Maybe she really had voice issues but when she argued with the judges she sounded fine.

Kris - Nice performance, nice arrangement, good vocals but no on no stage presence.

Danny - Karaoke, sounded just like EW&F but moved around like a dork.

Allison - Exciting performance but same vocal sound as every other song she does. She needs to show more range.

Adam - Took a bad song and made it a great song.

Matt - Poor guy, follows Adam on another Bee Jees song. He was the opposite of Danny, poor vocals but moved well and looked good on stage.

Anoop - Another performance to put you to sleep.

This is a weird season, Adam is so much better than the pack he really exposing the others as what they are, reality TV singers. He is also excellent playing the game and giving the judges exactly what they want. They are all putty in his hands - even Simon.

It would be more interesting if there was at least one person that had a chance. Despite what Randy was saying, except Adam, this may be the worst bunch of idol contestants ever. Perhaps all the good ones already tried out for previous AIs.

Lock Prediction of the week:

Lil, Danny, Matt, and Anoop deserve bottom 3. But bottom 3 will be Lil, Anoop, and Matt with Lil and Matt going home.

timckelley
04-22-2009, 12:08 AM
BTW, I don't think this was one of Adam's better performances, but it's good enough to rank him in the top 2 of the week, imo. (What does that say about the other singers?) Also, I think it's good strategy, because it means he's leaving himself room to move up a notch in later weeks and really blow us away.

JLucPicard
04-22-2009, 12:09 AM
I like to post first before reading the thread so my view isn't tainted (not that anyone cares :)), so here goes:

Same performers as last week, same bottom three as last week as well I'm afraid.

After Matt's performance, I was thinking, "OK, Matt and Lil go home this week." Then Anoop stepped up and made it a three horse race.

I find it amazing sometimes that I seem to agree so consistently with Simon. Especially after the last couple of performances I made it through the first three judges thinking, "Wow, I just don't see it" only to have Simon speak up and find myself thinking, "Right - exactly". Glad they went back to the old judging format (aside from Kara's goof up, of course! :)).

People seem to choose "I'm Every Woman" a lot on this show, and I just can't STAND that song! After Lil finished I was wondering if there were any words to that song, because it seemed like all Lil was singing was the chorus. I have to say, I LOVED her outfit tonight.

Matt. Matt. The thought that crossed my mind on his song was, "I would not hesitate to switch channels if I ever heard that on the radio". He just seems so boring to me. He really killed it for me when he rushed at the end like "Oh ya, I almost forgot. I have to hit that high note at the end." Then "Oh, crap, I really butchered the hell out of that high note!"

Kris was actually my favorite tonight, followed by Allison, then probably Danny, then Adam. Adam seemed to have an off week, though he still did a lot better than some of them.

My bottom three: Lil, Matt and Anoop, any two of which could easily be gone. I guess I wouldn't mind seeing Lil make it through one more week just for the badonkadonk factor. Rrrrroww. ;)

bareyb
04-22-2009, 12:42 AM
There was a big debate in another thread about whether AI singers were artists or just singers. Based on tonight, Adam is an artist. Lil is just a singer.

I really like the subtle changes Adam puts into every song and the way he puts his signature on everything he sings. He makes all of them uniquely his own. I enjoy Allison for the same reason. She at least does her own thing with the songs. Most of the rest of them are pretty Karaoke for me dawg. Except for Chris tonight. That was awesome. :up:

JLucPicard
04-22-2009, 01:05 AM
Add me to the list that could do without Adam's shrieking. :down:

ahartman
04-22-2009, 01:23 AM
So much disco available and THAT'S what everyone came up with to sing?!?

*sigh*

Have it recorded, haven't watched yet. May not.

MarkofT
04-22-2009, 02:48 AM
I don't care right now whether or not DialIdol is considered a spoiler. All I'll say is:

WTF? Who (and WHY) are these people voting for Lil? And no, don't tell me VFTW, they definitely don't have that much sway.Look at the raw numbers, not just the scores. I think there is someone playing with their stats. I have never called in but do you get a little voice message and then it disconnects you? Or can you stay on the line and block incoming calls? If you can stay on the line, I think people that want her gone are calling in once, leaving the line open until disconnected and trying again.

The raw numbers show a significantly fewer number of calls overall for Lil but the high busy percentage is throwing the prediction algorithm for a loop.

wooh
04-22-2009, 05:32 AM
Also, another thing that bugs me, is that none of Adam's stuff feels genuine to me. They all feel like they're pieces from Adam: The Broadway Musical. Danny and Kris, while seeming less "technical," both feel more _real_ and to me, I greatly prefer either to Adam.

Absolutely. He may win, but he's just going to end up on Broadway, not selling albums. He's just so fake, pretending to be "current."

TheAdmiral
04-22-2009, 07:18 AM
WTF? Who (and WHY) are these people voting for Lil?

At the risk of sounding like a racist, the reason she is still there is because she is black.

She is the only remaining contestent of color and some people tend to vote for contestents of thier own nationality or race. It is sad that such bigotry still exists in our world and that some can not look past color, but that's just the way it is.

Cearbhaill
04-22-2009, 07:24 AM
Weird night for me- nobody wowed me.
Not my favorite Adam performance at all, but second rate for Adam is still miles above anyone else.
I want him over the top and flaming- I hate to feel as if he has had to tame something to pacify the majority, which is kind of how I felt about that. He just didn't seem all that joyful when he finished, and I missed that.
Still, Disco night was a minefield for him and as long as he gets out of it safely then mission accomplished.

Next week we start two songs per night and IMO that's when we will start getting more of what I enjoy from him. He can still do a mainstream ballad for one song, then fly the freak flag on the second. Or even better, pull that third trick out of his sleeve where I am convinced he still has a thing or two hidden.

That's what I'm hoping for anyway.

As far as Dial Idol- I am beginning to believe that the Idol team has figured out a way to mess with their results without affecting their voting numbers. Even DI themselves say that something odd happened regarding Lil's results. (http://www.dialidol.com/asp/news/news.asp)
Between that and the texters I don't find DI all that relevant at all.

ewilts
04-22-2009, 07:33 AM
Look at the raw numbers, not just the scores. [snip]

The raw numbers show a significantly fewer number of calls overall for Lil but the high busy percentage is throwing the prediction algorithm for a loop.
The raw numbers are VERY interesting. Based on number of votes and not busy percentage, Lil has the lowest number of votes whereas she's showing with the highest busy percentage.

Alison and Kris have the lowest DialIdol score, but they have the highest raw numbers.

However, go back and look and look at the week with 8 Idols. The bottom 3 should have been, based on the raw numbers, Lil, Scott, and Danny, with Lil going home. Last week it was Lil, Danny, and Matt with Matt having the highest number in that bottom 3, again with Lil going home.

The raw numbers have had Lil in the bottom 3 EVERY week since the top 13 started and dead last for the last 4 weeks.

Ment
04-22-2009, 08:01 AM
Agreed.

Also, another thing that bugs me, is that none of Adam's stuff feels genuine to me. They all feel like they're pieces from Adam: The Broadway Musical. Danny and Kris, while seeming less "technical," both feel more _real_ and to me, I greatly prefer either to Adam.

I don't think you'll be seeing Adam:Unplugged anytime soon but Adam isn't that kind of performer. I suppose it's the difference between a David Bowie and John Lennon performance.

jlb
04-22-2009, 08:18 AM
Vince Neil from Motley Crue

In the results show AI plays a remake of "Home Sweet Home", which is a Mötley Crüe song.

Just checked iTunes (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=306496937&s=143441). Had no idea that was Carrie Underwood!


And as I think I posted at the outset when we knew Carrie was covering it for the "goodbye" song.....I am really hoping that she performs it with Motley Crue during the finale/results. I think that would be awesome!!!!!!!

BTW, her cover is really good, even though it is missing the searing guitar solo of the original.

jwehman
04-22-2009, 08:20 AM
The raw numbers are VERY interesting. Based on number of votes and not busy percentage, Lil has the lowest number of votes whereas she's showing with the highest busy percentage.

Alison and Kris have the lowest DialIdol score, but they have the highest raw numbers.

However, go back and look and look at the week with 8 Idols. The bottom 3 should have been, based on the raw numbers, Lil, Scott, and Danny, with Lil going home. Last week it was Lil, Danny, and Matt with Matt having the highest number in that bottom 3, again with Lil going home.

The raw numbers have had Lil in the bottom 3 EVERY week since the top 13 started and dead last for the last 4 weeks.

Something to keep in mind: DI registered ~260K votes TOTAL this week. AI usually gets around ~35M votes every week (and I'd be interested to see how many of those are texted-in). So, DI pulls less than 1% of the total votes, and their "demographic" may be a lot different than the overall demographic, leaving their numbers skewed drastically different than the total sum.

Alfer
04-22-2009, 08:40 AM
We watched last night and I don't keep up with it that much like my wife does. But when the Adam guy finished "singing" the first thing I told my daughter was "Boy that was awful!".....what amazed me next was all the gushing and glowing reviews he got from the judges...seriously, they think this guy can sing and sing well??

Color me amazed at what passes a good singing these days.

:(

LoadStar
04-22-2009, 08:43 AM
Something to keep in mind: DI registered ~260K votes TOTAL this week. AI usually gets around ~35M votes every week (and I'd be interested to see how many of those are texted-in). So, DI pulls less than 1% of the total votes, and their "demographic" may be a lot different than the overall demographic, leaving their numbers skewed drastically different than the total sum.

True, which is why I think they attempt to factor in the "busy line" factor, as that might have a chance of showing an indication as to what the non-DialIdol people are doing.

loubob57
04-22-2009, 09:11 AM
As far as Dial Idol- I am beginning to believe that the Idol team has figured out a way to mess with their results without affecting their voting numbers. Even DI themselves say that something odd happened regarding Lil's results. (http://www.dialidol.com/asp/news/news.asp)
Between that and the texters I don't find DI all that relevant at all.

Ding ding ding.

I've been thinking this too. The last several times I've bothered to look at dialidol predictions they've been totally useless. I do think the AI producers have found a way to keep the results from being predicted.

iceisles
04-22-2009, 09:11 AM
I liked how they ditched the video packages to allow more time for the judges. I'd much rather hear all four judges than have to watch some pointless video segment on how much a contestant loves disco, etc. I hope they stick with this, as it worked well last night with no overrun.

And yeah, Lil & Matt leave tonight.

SullyND
04-22-2009, 09:18 AM
I liked the first half of Adams performance, then he got all screechy and ruined it. I have not been the biggest fan of Kris, but thought he was really good tonight, best of the night for sure.

toddvj
04-22-2009, 09:29 AM
And as I think I posted at the outset when we knew Carrie was covering it for the "goodbye" song.....I am really hoping that she performs it with Motley Crue during the finale/results. I think that would be awesome!!!!!!!

BTW, her cover is really good, even though it is missing the searing guitar solo of the original.
Yeah, have her sing, and let Vince Neil sit it out. He can't sing any more. He only sings every other word. It is very distracting.

Cearbhaill
04-22-2009, 09:34 AM
I see a few Adam fans that may be interested in his weekly "confessionals", posted here. (http://www.vimeo.com/4266696). These can be hard to find as they are available only via iPhones and usually get removed by Fox the moment someone puts them up. Can't help you with any other contestants, sorry.

Also, if you like statistics What Not To Sing (http://whatnottosing.com/seasons.asp?id=8) has a bunch from all seasons and is a really fun place to poke around.

TonyTheTiger
04-22-2009, 09:58 AM
Who the heck is Lillian????

Either Lil/Matt or Lil/Anoop go tonight.

Einselen
04-22-2009, 10:00 AM
Who the heck is Lillian????


Lil's legal first name. Named after her grandmother IIRC.

David Platt
04-22-2009, 10:05 AM
Absolutely. He may win, but he's just going to end up on Broadway, not selling albums. He's just so fake, pretending to be "current."

What's fake about him?

photoshopgrl
04-22-2009, 10:12 AM
At the risk of sounding like a racist, the reason she is still there is because she is black.

She is the only remaining contestent of color and some people tend to vote for contestents of thier own nationality or race. It is sad that such bigotry still exists in our world and that some can not look past color, but that's just the way it is.
Not true. Matt is half black and Anoop ain't white. Color at this point in the game has zero to do with the voting.

timckelley
04-22-2009, 10:14 AM
Not true. Matt is half black and Anoop ain't white. Color at this point in the game has zero to do with the voting.

It's the first I've heard of Matt being half black; he looks white to me (and probably to most of America).

As for Anoop, I'm guessing he's middle-eastern, and maybe the racial block from the Middle East isn't as strong, voting-wise, as is the black block.

MickeS
04-22-2009, 10:14 AM
At the risk of sounding like a racist, the reason she is still there is because she is black.

She is the only remaining contestent of color and some people tend to vote for contestents of thier own nationality or race. It is sad that such bigotry still exists in our world and that some can not look past color, but that's just the way it is.

And you know this is the reason because...? You're right, you do sound racist.

NJChris
04-22-2009, 10:29 AM
Lil's legal first name. Named after her grandmother IIRC. I thought it was Lil, not Lillian as they said in that video the other week.

Regardless - I thought Lil was the worst. I've thought she's been the worst for most of the show. Her notes are off or flat or something that's very unpleasing.

Anoop - He has moments but overall bad.

I liked Matt's performance tonight. I think it was better than Allisons, who I feel is a hit or miss each week.

I'm getting bored of Danny. I don't see him mixing it up much and last nights was just kinda eh...

I think my top would be
1- Kris
2- Adam
3- Matt

4 - Danny
5 - Allison
6 - Anoop
7 - Lil

Einselen
04-22-2009, 10:34 AM
I thought it was Lil, not Lillian as they said in that video the other week.


I thought I read somewhere that she was named after her grandmother who is named Lillian. I guess you can be named as Lil as a derivative, but I thought her legal first name was Lillian but she is known and goes by Lil. It is like people who are named Richard going by Dick or someone going by their middle name rather then their first name.

Einselen
04-22-2009, 10:35 AM
It's the first I've heard of Matt being half black; he looks white to me (and probably to most of America).


Same here but I do sometimes tend to FF through the fluff and so I could have missed where that was mentioned, but a google search turned up nothing and his mom is white.

aindik
04-22-2009, 10:45 AM
I liked how they ditched the video packages to allow more time for the judges. I'd much rather hear all four judges than have to watch some pointless video segment on how much a contestant loves disco, etc. I hope they stick with this, as it worked well last night with no overrun.


+10.

The rules of Idol are:
a) commercials
b) singing
c) Simon talks

Once you get that stuff in, then you play with the rest of the time.

No video packages, Lil starts off the show already on stage from the intro, one contestant right into another, and they just squeeze it in in an hour.

I don't know how they're going to do it next week if they're going from seven songs to 10.

This was the first time I really liked Kris. I liked Adam, too. Everyone else, no. I thought Danny was bad karaoke again and I'm starting to get annoyed with Allison's inability to enunciate the lyrics in a way we can understand them. Simon has to be noticing that, and there has to be a reason he's not saying anything about it. The middle of Anoop's song was OK, but the beginning was pretty bad and the last note was awful.

Same bottom three as last week, with Lil and Matt going home.

David Archuletta on the results show tonight. Ech.

timckelley
04-22-2009, 10:48 AM
Yes, it was great not having those stupid videos. In fact, I'll even say that I thought Ryan did a better job than usual, not asking as many stupid questions as he did early in the season. He even had some funny one-liners; e.g. when Paula was mesmerized by one of the singers (I can't remember which, offhand), Ryan told the singer afterwards, something along the lines of: "Look what you did to Paula, she's a pool of Abdul".

NJChris
04-22-2009, 11:55 AM
I thought I read somewhere that she was named after her grandmother who is named Lillian. I guess you can be named as Lil as a derivative, but I thought her legal first name was Lillian but she is known and goes by Lil. It is like people who are named Richard going by Dick or someone going by their middle name rather then their first name. The video said they named her after her grandmother but named her Lil. They said it wasnt short for anything.

Can someone confirm!!! This is probably more interesting than the show itself. :) :) :)

timckelley
04-22-2009, 12:01 PM
http://idolblips.showhype.com/story/lil_rounds_the_finalist_interview/

"Lil Rounds held a conference-call interview with reporters Thursday afternoon. Here are some of the highlights from that call: • Lil is not short for either "Lillian" or "Little." Lil is her birth name -- she was named after a grandmother. "


Having said this, I think I read here somewhere that Lil is lying, and that her real name really is Lillian. But I have no proof of this.

Einselen
04-22-2009, 12:48 PM
The video said they named her after her grandmother but named her Lil. They said it wasnt short for anything.

Can someone confirm!!! This is probably more interesting than the show itself. :) :) :)

http://idolblips.showhype.com/story/lil_rounds_the_finalist_interview/

"Lil Rounds held a conference-call interview with reporters Thursday afternoon. Here are some of the highlights from that call: • Lil is not short for either "Lillian" or "Little." Lil is her birth name -- she was named after a grandmother. "


Having said this, I think I read here somewhere that Lil is lying, and that her real name really is Lillian. But I have no proof of this.

Maybe Lillian was her legal birth name but when married it was legally shortened to Lil. Anyway does it really matter? We knew who people were talking about when they called her Lillian.

That Don Guy
04-22-2009, 03:03 PM
I don't know how they're going to do it next week if they're going from seven songs to 10.According to Fox's schedule, the scheduled end of next Tuesday's show is being moved from 9:00...to 9:01.

I guess somebody at Fox didn't get the memo that TiVos (a) almost all have two tuners now, and (b) don't ignore a show if it is scheduled to start while another show is currently being recorded.

-- Don

aindik
04-22-2009, 03:15 PM
According to Fox's schedule, the scheduled end of next Tuesday's show is being moved from 9:00...to 9:01.

I guess somebody at Fox didn't get the memo that TiVos (a) almost all have two tuners now, and (b) don't ignore a show if it is scheduled to start while another show is currently being recorded.

-- Don

I was never bothered by the 9:01 thing. I don't care when shows start and end, so long as my TiVo knows when they start and end.

I think the 9:01 thing is just so they can sell an extra commercial or two in the Idol slot versus one or two fewer in the slot for what's on after.

tiams
04-22-2009, 03:59 PM
I was never bothered by the 9:01 thing. I don't care when shows start and end, so long as my TiVo knows when they start and end.

I think the 9:01 thing is just so they can sell an extra commercial or two in the Idol slot versus one or two fewer in the slot for what's on after.


I HATE when shows are scheduled to run for a minute or two after the hour. Yes, my TiVO has two tuners, but this still sometimes causes a conflict.

tiams
04-22-2009, 04:02 PM
According to Fox's schedule, the scheduled end of next Tuesday's show is being moved from 9:00...to 9:01.

I guess somebody at Fox didn't get the memo that TiVos (a) almost all have two tuners now, and (b) don't ignore a show if it is scheduled to start while another show is currently being recorded.

-- Don


If both tuners are recording, then TiVo WILL ignore a show that you have an SP for if another show is currently being recorded.

realityboy
04-22-2009, 04:20 PM
It'll just clip 1 minute off the end of the lower priority. No big deal. This week's show was also scheduled to run until 9:01, and it went over a little. Have they confirmed 2 songs each next week?

I liked Kris the best then Allison and Adam then everyone else. Hopefully somehow Lil goes home this week. I was worried that Kris might be in danger with 2 going home, but after last night, hopefully that isn't the case.

Cearbhaill
04-22-2009, 04:33 PM
Have they confirmed 2 songs each next week?

No, not officially.
With four judges it may be problematic, but I hope the heck not.
That's when things really kick into high gear for me.

DevdogAZ
04-22-2009, 04:37 PM
According to Fox's schedule, the scheduled end of next Tuesday's show is being moved from 9:00...to 9:01.

I guess somebody at Fox didn't get the memo that TiVos (a) almost all have two tuners now, and (b) don't ignore a show if it is scheduled to start while another show is currently being recorded.

-- Don
That may be true for the newer TiVos, but it's not true for older TiVos, many of which are still in service. I also don't know how many cable co. DVRs allow negative padding/episode clipping, so I'd think it's pretty crucial for them to schedule the show properly. I appreciate that they're doing so rather than simply running over without any notice.

tiams
04-22-2009, 06:13 PM
It'll just clip 1 minute off the end of the lower priority. No big deal. This week's show was also scheduled to run until 9:01, and it went over a little. Have they confirmed 2 songs each next week?

I liked Kris the best then Allison and Adam then everyone else. Hopefully somehow Lil goes home this week. I was worried that Kris might be in danger with 2 going home, but after last night, hopefully that isn't the case.

How do you schedule a show to STOP recording a minute early?

DevdogAZ
04-22-2009, 06:16 PM
How do you schedule a show to STOP recording a minute early?
With S2, S3 or TiVoHD, you have another show that starts a minute before the first program ends, and the second program is higher in the SP priority list than the first. When that happens, the overlapping portion of the lower-priority show gets clipped.

Roadblock
04-23-2009, 05:51 PM
What's fake about him?

He plays the rocker part, but he's more Clay Aiken.

bareyb
04-23-2009, 09:12 PM
He plays the rocker part, but he's more Clay Aiken.

Hater...

David Platt
04-23-2009, 10:57 PM
He plays the rocker part, but he's more Clay Aiken.

Could you expand on that a bit? I seriously do not get the comparison with Clay Aiken at all. They couldn't be more different.

photoshopgrl
04-24-2009, 07:29 AM
Could you expand on that a bit? I seriously do not get the comparison with Clay Aiken at all. They couldn't be more different.
I'm pretty sure they are referring to the fact that Adam and Clay are both gay.

Lori
04-24-2009, 07:32 AM
I'm pretty sure they are referring to the fact that Adam and Clay are both gay.

That's can't be, because then Roadblock would be implying that gay men can't be rock stars, a point that I am sure Queen fans would take issue with.

LoadStar
04-24-2009, 08:09 AM
Could you expand on that a bit? I seriously do not get the comparison with Clay Aiken at all. They couldn't be more different.

While they both have markedly different styles, they're both very "theatrical" in their own way. (Think of the difference between a rock song from a musical like "Rent" or something, and a rock song on the radio - there is a definite difference there.)

photoshopgrl
04-24-2009, 08:27 AM
That's can't be, because then Roadblock would be implying that gay men can't be rock stars, a point that I am sure Queen fans would take issue with.
I'm in agreement with you but I still do believe that was the meaning behind the comment. :)

bareyb
04-24-2009, 06:23 PM
While they both have markedly different styles, they're both very "theatrical" in their own way. (Think of the difference between a rock song from a musical like "Rent" or something, and a rock song on the radio - there is a definite difference there.)

I don't see Adam as trying to "play the rocker" though. At least not like "Constantine" did for awhile. I think he just sings what he likes to sing. His style reminds me of some of the Cirque de Soleil artists. I absolutely love that music, but it's not "rock" in the conventional sense, even though it does have some good guitar. I think Adam's a true original within the context of this show. We've never seen anyone like him. Not even Clay Aiken IMO.

Derbyman
04-24-2009, 06:49 PM
Naturally I am going to post about Adam again. Without his presence the season would be one of the worst in AI history. It is just my way of thinking and I guess I can like who I like. People tried to compare him to Clay and I don't get that at all I never liked Clay a bit.Adam is original, smart and a mile ahead of the competition. If he does not win I will be really be in shock because it is his show to loose. Who can come close to him in ability, or originality:up:

DianaMo
04-29-2009, 12:25 PM
Does everyone remember Paula's comment about Kris "shopping in the ladies department" regarding his choice of a song for Disco night?

This week a similar comment was made on Dancing with the Stars about team Mambo "shopping in the ladies department".

Did anyone else catch this?

Roadblock
04-29-2009, 01:53 PM
That's can't be, because then Roadblock would be implying that gay men can't be rock stars, a point that I am sure Queen fans would take issue with.

Nah, not talking about their sexual preference at all, just that Adam is a theater performer, not a rock star. He puts on a good live show, the audience enjoys it, but I don't see him being a success in anything other than theater. I of course could be wrong, guess we'll see. :)