TiVo HD default resolution changes when TV powers off/on

[AustinHealy]

Every time I turn off my tv, I lose the video output setting that was set and it returns to 720P Fixed. I have seen a couple of posts on this topic, but no solution other than bypassing my av unit. I was hoping that someone else with this problem may have found a solution that will still enable the use of the av receiver. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

[lastdeadcat]

What is your connection scheme? That may have something to do with it. Do you also turn off the AV receiver? Do you use a universial remote?

[jrm01]

I have this problem also, and have found four others with the same problem. In all cases we are using a Yamaha Receiver. How about you?

[AustinHealy]

I am using a Yamaha 663, my components,Tivo and PS3 are connected to the AV receiver via HDMI. My TV is a Sony KDL52W4100. I do turn off the receiver, because if I don't the sound continues to play through my speakers. I have tried turning off the the AVR without turning off the TV and it has no effect on the video resolution. I only lose the setting when the TV is turned on and off.

[jrm01]

Yup, same with me and my 863. The others that I referred to have 463, 663 or 863. I think it is a Yamaha problem, but have never gotten them to admit it.

[AustinHealy]

Well I am going to keep searching, if I find out anything I'll let you know.

[lastdeadcat]

I know you don't want to do this, but you might have to take the AV receiver out of the video loop and connect the TiVo directly to the TV video input.

I do that because my AV receiver doesn't handle HDMI or component connections. I have audio going to the AV receiver via optical and video going to the TV via HDMI. I use an Harmony programable universal remote to control the set up--changing the inputs and outputs as necessary for whatever activity I want.

In this situation your AV receiver is only a switching device for video. My TV has a whole bevy of video inputs of various sorts. My TiVoHD uses one of the four HDMI jacks, my TiVo Series 2 uses the S-video jack and my DVD player uses one of the two component set of jacks. There are still some left over. In this case my remote does the switching of inputs according to the activity selection I make.

[wmeyring]

I am using a Yamaha 663, my components,Tivo and PS3 are connected to the AV receiver via HDMI. My TV is a Sony KDL52W4100. I do turn off the receiver, because if I don't the sound continues to play through my speakers. I have tried turning off the the AVR without turning off the TV and it has no effect on the video resolution. I only lose the setting when the TV is turned on and off.

I have almost the exact same setup and issue. I believe it is a handshake issue between the tivo & the TV (through the AVR's HDMI pass through) that causes the tivo to revert to 720p regardless of it's previous setting. I had this issue with Fios and now with COX. It's totally equipment related.

I have a tivo series 3 hooked up via HDMI to a yamaha 663 AVR which is connected via HDMI to a Sony XBR6 1080p TV. Since the tivo is on 24/7 I experimented with the order that I turned on the TV and AVR. It seems to be an issue when the TV is powering up at the same time as the AVR. Somehow this screws up the communication and the tivo defaults to a lower resolution.

I found that if I turn on the TV first without turning on the AVR, the TV gets no signal and remains at the previous setting of 1080p. I then turn on the AVR and the tivo signal is passed through the AVR at 1080. Essentially, the TV needs to be on first, then turn on the AVR. I programmed my universal remote to power up in this sequence and it works every time.

Of course if your setup is different, like you have the tivo hooked up to the TV directly then this wouldn't help. But is sound like most people with this issue have an AVR between the TV and tivo (and Yamaha AVRs seem to be worse than others)

Good luck! Hope this works for you guys and with other TVs and receivers.

[AustinHealy]

I tried your method, and it does work. Thanks for the help.

[enthalpy]

Thank you very much for this (very observant) solution. I have a series3 that does the exact same thing. I just upgraded to a 1080p television and a Yamaha AVR at the same time, and that's when I noticed the issue. The supplied Yamaha remote has a macro pre-programmed that turns on the TV first, then the Yamah AVR. It sounds like I need to learn how to edit the macro.

But still, this is a problem with my Series 3. When I confirm that I want 1080i "fixed", that means I don't want it changed, I want it fixed. The Series 3 is changing it to 720p on its own. I realize this is slightly safer in case my TV doesn't support 1080, but I confirmed 1080, so by gosh, it should stay 1080. This a "bug", not a" feature".

[enthalpy]

One other thing that just occurred to me, it sounds like all of us use HDMI, as I do. What if you used the component cables to the Yamaha, will that make a difference? With HDMI being smart, maybe it's too smart for it's own good.

OK, I'll go off and try this myself now, and report back.

[Sacramento95833]

I found that if I turn on the TV first without turning on the AVR, the TV gets no signal and remains at the previous setting of 1080p. I then turn on the AVR and the tivo signal is passed through the AVR at 1080. Essentially, the TV needs to be on first, then turn on the AVR. I programmed my universal remote to power up in this sequence and it works every time..

I've been living this issue for the past year. I also found that I could avoid the issue by powering on my Sony TV about 10 seconds before I power on my Yamaha 663 receiver, but I couldn't figure out how to setup my Harmony 676 remote to power the devices on with this long of a delay.

Has anyone found a way to use this workaround with a Harmony remote?

[idkprince]

I have experienced the same problem. I have a Harmony ONE remote; Yamaha RX-V3800; TivoHD; and Samsung 850 TV. The problem was caused when the Picture Sze on the Samsung was set to Just Scan. When I set the Picture Size to 16:9, the problem goes away. If your TV has a Just Scan or similar setting, I recommend that you change it to 16:9 this should fix the problem.

[MichaelJHuman]

I found have the same problem.

Tivo - Series 3
Receiver - Yamaha RX-V3900
Connection method - HDMI

Whenever I power off my TV, which I do without powering off the receiver, when the TV powers back on, something in the HDMI negotiation causes the output resolution to reset to 1080i no matter what it was set to.

Component video would of course fix this problem as no negotiation is necessary. The quality is almost as good, too.