The Office - Two Weeks *SPOILERS*

[Steeler Mike]

Stanley as productivity czar???? :confused:

[Satchel]

Didn't really think too much of this one. It had a few (very few) funny moments, but overall I'm pretty bored with this storyline.

[4inziksych]

I liked Toby's line about Michael being like a bad movie on a plane.

[spikedavis]

I knew this would be the reaction. This was a very funny episode and had the typical Office "uncomfortable" moments. I loved it.

[nataylor]

Poor Prince Paper is out of business.

*roaring and screaming sounds coming from Michael's office*
Jim: It's monSTER dot com. Singular.

:D

[Demandred]

*roaring and screaming sounds coming from Michael's office*
Jim: It's monSTER dot com. Singular.

This was the funniest part IMO. The fact that Jim didn't even know what Michael was doing in his office but was able to guess from what he hard.

That and Pam's face at the end of the episode.

[needo]

It was a very Jerry McGuire moment at the end. I still don't understand why Pam left with Michael other then to escape from being a receptionist.

[hapdrastic]

It was a very Jerry McGuire moment at the end. I still don't understand why Pam left with Michael other then to escape from being a receptionist.

Thank you. I couldn't place where I'd seen that before.

[realityboy]

I was kind of confused by Pam leaving with Michael. Does she actually think he can start his own company or was she just doing as his friend or just to escape her job? I could see the last one after the time spent on that copier.

Other than that, it was a very enjoyable episode with some funny moments and some uncomfortable ones. I keep waiting for Jim to get in more trouble with the new boss. Charles doesn't seem to like him or anyone very much.

[marksman]

I liked this episode a lot too.

I like when the new boss said something about knowing the ladies like him when they were in there competing for his attention.

I think Pam left because one she does have a fondness for Michael, and she also wants to do something else. Not like it would be taxing to get another receptionist job if she had to, but she has always wanted to do more. Whether she believes Michael or not, I suspect she thinks it would be more interesting then working at Dundler Mifflin without Michael.

[JYoung]

Stanley as productivity czar???? :confused:

Dwight looked a bit stunned and betrayed by that one.
What's next? Creed as Quality Assurance?


It was a very Jerry McGuire moment at the end. I still don't understand why Pam left with Michael other then to escape from being a receptionist.

That's not enough?

I think Marksman was spot on with the why.

[aadam101]

Michael will start his own paper company. It will be a disaster but somehow DM execs will think it is successful and buy the company from him. Michael will only sell if he can have his job back.

[Zevida]

Michael will start his own paper company. It will be a disaster but somehow DM execs will think it is successful and buy the company from him. Michael will only sell if he can have his job back.

That's what I was thinking as well for the resolution of this story line.

I thought the episode was solid. Not as funny as last week, but a good wrap-up and set-up for the next few episodes. I did think it was strange that after quitting Michael then stayed for 2 weeks, but maybe they talked him into it?

I knew when Michael started talking about "be all you can be" that someone was going to leave with him. It made sense for Pam since she's never wanted to be a receptionist, and she doesn't get any credit or appreciation.

Miner is so completely out of touch with the office it will be amusing to watch that play out. The productivity czar and Keven as receptionist were great.

[Sirius Black]

I received this in an email this morning. It's from Michael Scott. Forgive me if it is spoilerish. I imagine I received the email because I went to dundermifflin.com and became an "employee".

Dear whom it may concern,

Bored? Poor? Lonely? Not if you take up this opportunity to join a company on the verge of the cutting edge of paper! Hi, I'm Michael Gary Scott. I've been working in paper for the last fifteen years and with paper since I was eight. As the manager of Dunder Mifflin, Scranton I learned two things: everything about the paper business and that Dunder Mifflin is a suckee company. I'm taking that expertness and creating The Michael Scott Paper Company.

This is your chance to join the ranks of people that have made millions selling paper: Robert Dunder, the Hearst family, those people that make counterfeit money, future me... I cannot promise success, but I will promise you the best effing time of your life!!! Because at the Michael Scott Paper Company we're not just a company or a family, we're a family company made up of people that aren't related.

The choice is clear: choose life. Choose the Michael Scott Paper Company.

Click here to begin.

Sincerely,

Michael Gary Scott
CEO, Founder, Boss

The "Click Here to Begin" is a link to something on NBC's Web site. I haven't clicked on it yet.

[markymark_ctown]

I received this in an email this morning. It's from Michael Scott. Forgive me if it is spoilerish. I imagine I received the email because I went to dundermifflin.com and became an "employee".


that's funny...thanks for posting.

i enjoyed the episode and like the story arc with charles minor. always some good laughs... :up:

[Bierboy]

...What's next? Creed as Quality Assurance?....

No...as office "nurse"....

[pdhenry]

I heard an interview with Idris Elba (Charles Miner) last weekend and he mentioned that the Charles Miner character will be shown to be capable of only textbook management style and really unable to manage with any flexibility.

So while putting Stanley in charge of office productivity would seem to be a form of tough-love management, in reality it's just a sign of cluelessness

[cheerdude]

Michael will start his own paper company. It will be a disaster but somehow DM execs will think it is successful and buy the company from him. Michael will only sell if he can have his job back.

Sales will drop in the branch... and they will think it's all due to Michael.

[Turtleboy]

I loved the Jerry McGuire moment at the end.

[FourFourSeven]

I love that Charles Miner is turning out to be even more incompetent than Michael, even if he's "by the book." Stanley as productivity czar and Kevin answering the phones? I think the resolution to this story line will probably be Scranton falling apart and David Wallace pleading for Michael to come back.

[barbeedoll]

Also interesting to see how Jim responds now that he is no longer the fair-haired boy....or at least now in the position of the boss watching him hoping he will trip up.

Glad to see he's mature enough to see that he has to support Pam and has a house payment, not that he would ever be stupid enough to follow Michael anyway.

Barbeedoll

[Magister]

'I was thinking I could just tape my name over it with clear tape'

[Bananfish]

"I'm interviewing candidates from outside the office for the Branch Manager position. For obvious reasons."

[DevdogAZ]

Miner is so completely out of touch with the office it will be amusing to watch that play out. The productivity czar and Keven as receptionist were great.
Yes, this will be interesting, and it will obviously lead to DM Scranton going downhill. The only real question is whether Miner will hire a replacement for Michael before it becomes apparent to corporate he doesn't know what he's doing. If there's already a new regional manager, that could complicate things, but if the position is still vacant, there's no question they'll bring Michael back. I think it's pretty obvious which of those will happen.

[BriGuy20]

I hope it takes no more than the 2 episodes the week after next to get Michael back at Scranton.

If it takes longer than that, I may have to get out my angry emoticon.

[YCantAngieRead]

Yeah, I dislike it when shows mess with major plot issues like this. It's okay for a couple of episodes, but for an extended period? No thanks.

[Scubee]

OK, someone help me out. When Pam was talking about figuring out the printer and she was seeming so proud of herself, she was about to say something. "It just feels..." Or something like that. What exactly was this supposed to mean? I totally do not get it.

[Ment]

OK, someone help me out. When Pam was talking about figuring out the printer and she was seeming so proud of herself, she was about to say something. "It just feels..." Or something like that. What exactly was this supposed to mean? I totally do not get it.

Perhaps she felt her 'sense of accomplishment' wasn't that fulfilling at the end. Bullet point on resume: 'Setup XXXX model of copier'

[BriGuy20]

OK, someone help me out. When Pam was talking about figuring out the printer and she was seeming so proud of herself, she was about to say something. "It just feels..." Or something like that. What exactly was this supposed to mean? I totally do not get it.

I agree with Ment, I think she was trying to say that she felt a sense of accomplishment, but considering it for a second (and searching for the right word to describe it), she in the end couldn't call it fulfilling.

[DevdogAZ]

OK, someone help me out. When Pam was talking about figuring out the printer and she was seeming so proud of herself, she was about to say something. "It just feels..." Or something like that. What exactly was this supposed to mean? I totally do not get it.

Perhaps she felt her 'sense of accomplishment' wasn't that fulfilling at the end. Bullet point on resume: 'Setup XXXX model of copier'

I agree with Ment, I think she was trying to say that she felt a sense of accomplishment, but considering it for a second (and searching for the right word to describe it), she in the end couldn't call it fulfilling.
To further that, it's when she realized that despite all the work she does at DM, she isn't improving herself or gaining any marketable skills, and therefore it wasn't that surprising that she decided to quit and go with Michael. If nothing else, it will be an adventure.

[jpicard]

I think that new boss man is too much of a book robot and will fail. The office will begin to go under. Wallace will bring back Holly to be in charge then she will convince Michael to come back. Just my guess....
Also the two things poking out of the back of the copy machine that Pam was wondering about. Those are handles to carry the copy machine. Nothing more than retractable "broom stick handles".
I enjoyed the episode. I thought it was good. Funny how Kelly and Angela were competing for new boss man's attention. Kelly having a crush on every man that walks through the door is a funny running joke.

Kirk

[DevdogAZ]

Stanley as productivity czar???? :confused:
The look on Stanley's face as everyone else left the room was priceless.

[pdhenry]

To further that, it's when she realized that despite all the work she does at DM, she isn't improving herself or gaining any marketable skills, and therefore it wasn't that surprising that she decided to quit and go with Michael. If nothing else, it will be an adventure.The telling scene is when Michael has crept into the office and is trying to get anyone to work for him. He says, "Are any of you living up to your potential here?" and they cut to Pam with a very thoughtful look on her face - she realizes (again) that as a receptionist, she's not.

[MickeS]

I was actually thinking Pam might go with Michael, but when they showed her walking out to the car with him, I was 99% sure she'd say "This was a mistake" and run back in again. :)

[Kablemodem]

I was thinking that she was thinking, "where the heck are we going?"

[vman41]

"It's not going to defeat me, like that wireless router."

[wooh]

Dwight looked a bit stunned and betrayed by that one.
What's next? Creed as Quality Assurance?



Bwahaha! :up:

[Bierboy]

I think that new boss man is too much of a book robot and will fail. The office will begin to go under. Wallace will bring back Holly to be in charge then she will convince Michael to come back. Just my guess......

Well, we do know (those of us who don't mind spoilers) that Holly does return before the end of this season. So your theory is on solid ground.

I was thinking that she was thinking, "where the heck are we going?"
That's EXACTLY what I said to my wife at that moment.

[sushikitten]

Also the two things poking out of the back of the copy machine that Pam was wondering about. Those are handles to carry the copy machine. Nothing more than retractable "broom stick handles".
I knew that, too...but I liked Dwight's answers better. :p

[jsmeeker]

To further that, it's when she realized that despite all the work she does at DM, she isn't improving herself or gaining any marketable skills, and therefore it wasn't that surprising that she decided to quit and go with Michael. If nothing else, it will be an adventure.

and even the things she does do (like setting up the copier) doesn't garner any real appreciation from co-workers.

[sushikitten]

and even the things she does do (like setting up the copier) doesn't garner any real appreciation from co-workers.

I feel her pain. :o And I can imagine just walking out like she did. Sometimes you just get in that mood.

[jradford]

Perhaps she felt her 'sense of accomplishment' wasn't that fulfilling at the end. Bullet point on resume: 'Setup XXXX model of copier'

The more I thought about it, the more I agree with the above poster. Just to expand, (maybe), she realized that fixing the copier actually WAS fulfilling. She has NEVER considered her job fulfilling or has never thought that she'd be doing her job forever, and the minute she had a "that was satisfying" moment, she knew she had to get out.

[Regina]

You're starting a paper company? In this climate?
In ALL climates! It will be worldwide! :D

Michael thinks big! :cool:

What did Dwigt say-his knowledge of German is mostly historical and military-something like that-cracked me up. Love him! ;)

[barbeedoll]

To further that, it's when she realized that despite all the work she does at DM, she isn't improving herself or gaining any marketable skills, and therefore it wasn't that surprising that she decided to quit and go with Michael. If nothing else, it will be an adventure.

Plus, if she wants to move into sales at any other company in the future, she will need to have on her resume that she IS a sales person now. At least if she can get the title at Michael's new company, she is in a better position for the future.

She will be able to apply for a future sales job as a sales rep with "experience", rather than trying to get a company to hire her into sales with only a receptionist background.

Maybe they will even hire her back as a sales person at Dunder-Mifflin when Michael returns. It could make for some interesting plots to have she and Jim compete for sales.

Barbeedoll

[newsposter]

are jim and pam engaged? if so, then why in the world wouldnt he put up more of a fuss with her leaving? Made no sense. I could see him on his knees begging her not to leave and that would fit in with the show.

I dont know why, but oscar in the diary room seemed a bit out of place to me. is he regularly in there? And the new guy sure does show how out of touch he is not to realize angela is the best person for most jobs in there..especially productivity and organization. (just leave the cat at home)

andy is the most uncoordinated dresser i've seen in a long time. The colors clashed so bad i had to look away.

technically wouldnt drinking on the job be immediate a removal from the office regardless of the 2 week thing

isnt normal quitting time 5pm? why was kelly asking to leave early?

[busyba]

are jim and pam engaged? if so, then why in the world wouldnt he put up more of a fuss with her leaving? Made no sense. I could see him on his knees begging her not to leave and that would fit in with the show.

wtf? You realize that she wasn't leaving Jim for Michael, she was just quitting her job, right? She's still going home to Jim at nights.

[pdhenry]

A real-world Jim would have a concern about Pam's current & future income, I would guess.

[BrandonRe]

are jim and pam engaged? if so, then why in the world wouldnt he put up more of a fuss with her leaving? Made no sense. I could see him on his knees begging her not to leave and that would fit in with the show.

I dont know why, but oscar in the diary room seemed a bit out of place to me. is he regularly in there? And the new guy sure does show how out of touch he is not to realize angela is the best person for most jobs in there..especially productivity and organization. (just leave the cat at home)

andy is the most uncoordinated dresser i've seen in a long time. The colors clashed so bad i had to look away.

technically wouldnt drinking on the job be immediate a removal from the office regardless of the 2 week thing

isnt normal quitting time 5pm? why was kelly asking to leave early?

You do realize the office is a comedy, right? ;)

[MrGreg]

A real-world Jim would have a concern about Pam's current & future income, I would guess.

But I think he also cares about her more than her job, and wants to see her do better for himself, even if it means she isn't sitting 15 feet away.

[newsposter]

But I think he also cares about her more than her job, and wants to see her do better for himself, even if it means she isn't sitting 15 feet away.

well i honestly forget what happened in school in NYC but didnt that prepare her for anything? And how can she do better at a place that wont even turn a profit for a few years? Id see it as foolish to leave a company where you get a regular check and you work next to the one you love to work for a psycho who cant even afford blank invoices

[plowsterbabe]

Id see it as foolish to leave a company where you get a regular check and you work next to the one you love to work for a psycho who cant even afford blank invoices

I suppose it's a good thing you don't write for the show. Everything you've complained about appeared in character for me. Jim seeing how leaving to go with Michael meant something to Pam. Not in his character to stop it. Pam seeing an opportunity and taking a chance (post her relationship with Roy).

As a side note, you may see taking a risk as being foolish, another might see it as, "nothing ventured, nothing gained." If I lived my entire life living within my comfort zone, I'm sure I'd have lots of regrets.

Granted, I didn't think this was a very funny episode, but I didn't see anything that terribly unusual.

[pdhenry]

You have to recall the scene (see my post #33) where Michael is trying to recruit people for his company - Pam realizes that her current job is doing nothing to fulfill her potential. The copier experience was the straw that broke the camel's back, probably. She wanted out. Anything was better than being a receptionist (or executive assistant) - and sales was just different enough to have tremendous appeal at that moment.

[newsposter]

I suppose it's a good thing you don't write for the show. Everything you've complained about appeared in character for me. Jim seeing how leaving to go with Michael meant something to Pam. Not in his character to stop it.

and i saw him traveling to NYC and to that gas station in the middle as him desperate to be with her at all costs...i thought that would carry over to wanting her in the work place with him as well

i cant picture all the scenes where he's 'gone after her' but thats the general feeling i have

[Zevida]

and i saw him traveling to NYC and to that gas station in the middle as him desperate to be with her at all costs...i thought that would carry over to wanting her in the work place with him as well

Nope, you totally missed the point of that scene as well.

Jim was waiting for the "perfect" moment. He wanted the fireworks (literally), he wanted it to be special and then he realized, all he wanted was Pam. The only thing important was their future together, not how planned and momentous the engagement is. So he did it right then, because there was no reason to wait any longer. It had nothing whatsoever to do with desperation.

[JLucPicard]

Just a couple of thoughts from someone who is probably totally clueless...

I viewed the Pam joining Michael scene as not much more than Pam jumping to Michael's side like she has so many times before, then the "look" at the end being a 'what am I doing?' look. Once outside she made some choices that would be made when going to a new job - because she kinda crossed that bridge by that point - but I didn't read into things what everyone else did before she walked out the door.

As for Jim not fighting for her to stay, he was cool with her going to New York, he's always been supportive of what she wanted to do. And I'm not married, but wouldn't some married people be OK with not working together? The impression I've gotten from married friends is that working with their spouses and being around them almost 24/7 may not be their first wish.

[marrone]

A real-world Jim would have a concern about Pam's current & future income, I would guess.

As a receptionist she probably didn't make a whole lot of money anyway, so it might be negligible compared to Jim's salary. Plus she could probably get another receptionist job very quickly given her experience. He probably wasn't too concerned about it, as he was too stunned by what she did to think about dollar signs.

It wouldn't suprise me if that comes up next episode, though.

-Mike

[marrone]

Wallace will bring back Holly to be in charge then she will convince Michael to come back. Just my guess....

That would be great, as I loved the Holly character.

Problem with that, though, is she was HR. She has no business running a branch. The best she could do is replace Toby (which by itself isn't a bad idea) but that doesn't get Michael back. If he does come back, they have the whole Michael/Holly thing again, and Holly would have to go back to where she came from again.

I do hope they stretch this out for a few episodes, though. A little diversion is never a bad thing. I'd actually like to see Michael somewhat succeed for once.

-Mike

[pdhenry]

As a receptionist she probably didn't make a whole lot of money anyway
Paper salesmen don't make all that much either. (Commissions?)

http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-Paper+salesman/l-PA

[DevdogAZ]

and i saw him traveling to NYC and to that gas station in the middle as him desperate to be with her at all costs...i thought that would carry over to wanting her in the work place with him as well

i cant picture all the scenes where he's 'gone after her' but thats the general feeling i have
He wasn't proposing to her because he couldn't stand not having her work 15 feet away from him. He was proposing because he loved her. There's no reason she can't work elsewhere and them still have a strong relationship. I'm totally confused by your posts.