American Idol Top 10 Results - 3/26/09

[Einselen]

Really no thread?

I was surprised Matt was in the B3, I thought maybe there was a chance there was a shock elimination. Look like VFTW may be keeping Megan Joy around a bit longer.

Scott couldn't go as Stevie was performing, I mean come on!

Sad to see Michael go, but I was expecting it. Did the judges really not know on if they would use the save? I mean come on... I think that was just mean.

[jay_man2]

I was surprised about Matt, too. And Megan looked surprised that she wasn't in the bottom 3.

[DevdogAZ]

I was surprised about Matt, too. And Megan looked surprised that she wasn't in the bottom 3.
Never underestimate the power of the eye candy (and VFTW).

[jay_man2]

I'm okay with the eye candy. Was this the first time we saw Megan's bare legs and the tatoos on her ankles/feet?

[jpwoof]

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[Kamakzie]

The judges really need to get their expletive together when it comes to making a final decision at the end. Simon had to assert is authority because they couldn't come to a decision.

[Einselen]

The judges really need to get their expletive together when it comes to making a final decision at the end. Simon had to assert is authority because they couldn't come to a decision.

Well the save supposedly has to be unanimous so Simon was like I didn't like it, I don't think you deserve to go on so yeah it is no. If there was hesitation and so much debate then it wasn't unanimous. Also were they seriously considering a save? Granted I FF through his performance, but he would last maybe one or two more weeks, why use it?

[Kamakzie]

Really I think the judges are saving the save in case Danny or Adam get prematurely voted off. Not sure if they would've used it if it had been Matt G.

[Einselen]

Really I think the judges are saving the save in case Danny or Adam get prematurely voted off. Not sure if they would've used it if it had been Matt G.

If they are saving the save then why "play it up" so much this week? Especially since the show was coming to a close and going over. I guess maybe it was the comment Simon made in the middle of the show that the save is contingent on the last chance performance.

[DevdogAZ]

They don't realize how much people hate the way it's being used. They think it's a brilliant idea that increases the suspense. They think they're really fooling people and putting them on the edge of their seat about whether the person is going to be saved. What they don't realize (or what they don't think the viewers realize) is that anyone voted off this early by the fans simply isn't going to make it very far in the competition even if they are saved.

A better implementation of the save rule would have been: Once the competition gets to the Final Six, if we feel someone gets voted off too early, we can save them prior to the Final Two.

[Einselen]

A better implementation of the save rule would have been: Once the competition gets to the Final Six, if we feel someone gets voted off too early, we can save them prior to the Final Two.

I am not sure I agree with that. Once it gets to the final 4 or so the voting is probably so close that any contestant, no matter how good, could possibly be the bottom. That is why I think they did the cutoff at 5. I mean you save one good person one week (say Danny) you might lose another good one the following week during a double Elim (say Adam)

[realityboy]

The save would've been pointless this week. I've never liked it, and I think they need to decide how/when to use it. Last week was the first time that we heard that it was dependent on the encore (which I do not believe at all), but they spent the entire time discussing and not watching the encore. This week they watched the encore and didn't discuss. It would be much more dramatic if they just each said yes or no without the discussion. One no and it's over.

I'm glad Michael went home. I hope Scott, Matt, and Megan follow him in the next 3 weeks.

[Einselen]

I'm glad Michael went home. I hope Scott, Matt, and Megan follow him in the next 3 weeks.

It is only a matter of time before they go. Matt clearly does not have much of a fanbase. However, we are also sitting in that time where the shocking eliminations come into play and I don't mean shocking like Lil, Danny or Adam going, but more shocking of why is this person still here whereas this person left. My guess is it could be Alison (maybe Anoop, but I think he has too much of a fanbase) leaving before Scott and possibly Megan.

[Ment]

No idea how Megan stayed out of the bottom three. VFTW can't have that much impact this late in the competition right? Do they post the vote spreads between the Idols?

[realityboy]

I'm sure there will be a semi-shocking moment where some middle of the pack performer leaves early, and we wait anxiously for the judges decision, but I think we should have a few more weeks before that happens.

Also, Megan is still there because there are only 3 girls compared to 7 now 6 guys. Her votes aren't spread quite as thin. If she were to decide to fill the country niche, she could be there until the top 5.

[Chapper1]

If Megan didn't have that sleeve of tattoos, she would be amazingly hot, IMO. Now she is only kinda hot.

[Mr. Soze]

If Megan didn't have that sleeve of tattoos, she would be amazingly hot, IMO. Now she is only kinda hot.+1. I am glad I live in a country where you can advance despite talent, just because you're hot. Yeah, Bay-bee!

[iceisles]

So, what was more disgusting - the gallon of sweat pouring off Ruben's head or the extreme close-up of Matt Giarud's monstrous forehead wart? :)

[jgickler]

I think the only reason that Matt was in the bottom 3 and Megan wasn't was due to the fact that he went 1st. There has historically been a disadvantage to contestants who go first for the night. The problem is that too many people turn in late, and miss the first performance or more. In the later rounds this gets negated as they sing a couple of songs, but for the next few weeks, going first could be the difference between staying and going for the contestants without a huge fan base.

[Aniketos]

Never underestimate the power of the eye candy (and VFTW).

No idea how Megan stayed out of the bottom three. VFTW can't have that much impact this late in the competition right? Do they post the vote spreads between the Idols?

Ya I think people give too much credit to VFTW, the only time they even seemed to have a small impact was Sanjaya, and I'm sure more people voted for him than know about VFTW. They were either small girls who actually liked him or people that were doing exactly what VFTW was doing without realizing there was a site around.


I wanted to like Megan in the beginning (I'm always a fan of raspy female singers), but she hasn't sounded good yet. Whereas Adam is the opposite, I want to dislike him but I find myself usually enjoying his performances the most (Last week not withstanding, although it wasnt as bad if you closed your eyes)

Danny and Lil I just don't get.

[aindik]

The right person went home. Bad as Megan has been, Michael just is not a professional singer (for recorded music, anyway).

That said, I agree with the theory that, on a two-hour show, the person that goes first is kinda getting screwed. But also, people vote on more than just the performance this week. Matt was really good this week, but he doesn't have fans.

As for Scott, him still being around is the flaw in democratic systems that likability triumphs over quality. He's just not that good.

Stevie Wonder was awesome. But why did they call it a "Motown Medley"? Those were all Stevie Wonder songs, right? Why promote it like he's going to sing a bunch of covers?

Seacrest has used the phrase "bottom two" these past two weeks, which is something he didn't do in years past after announcing the "bottom three" and then sending one person back to the couch. So, I guess we're really to believe that Matt got fewer votes than Scott.

Something I forgot to say about last night. It was funny to hear the southern accent out of Seacrest's mouth, that he tries so hard to get rid of and cover up. He pronounced the word "crayon" as "crown." (We in the northeast call it a cray on).

[Einselen]

As for Scott, him still being around is the flaw in democratic systems that likability triumphs over quality. He's just not that good.


Each year there are always those type of contestants that become likeable and keep moving on even though they are not the best singer. I also think that AI is about finding a new artist and part of being an artist is performance (not saying Scott fits into the category). I mean look at Britney Spears, she can't sing, but she is one hell of a performer.


Seacrest has used the phrase "bottom two" these past two weeks, which is something he didn't do in years past after announcing the "bottom three" and then sending one person back to the couch. So, I guess we're really to believe that Matt got fewer votes than Scott.


I noticed it this week, missed it last week. This again confirms Matt really has no fanbase. There is something about him where he just feels so flat and no personality. Kris is also one that I think doesn't have a large fanbase, it is not small but I think he will have an uphill battle trying to progress after the next few weeks.

[aindik]

Each year there are always those type of contestants that become likeable and keep moving on even though they are not the best singer. I also think that AI is about finding a new artist and part of being an artist is performance (not saying Scott fits into the category). I mean look at Britney Spears, she can't sing, but she is one hell of a performer.

"Quality" doesn't just mean vocal quality. There's quality in Britney Spears music. It's not singing talent, but the music has what it takes to be a hit. The songs are "good" to some segment of the population who listens to them. They're catchy and upbeat and have a good hook. Britney herself has fairly little to do with that, but she's a vehicle for some talented producers and songwriters.

This Scott thing (and the mother of all examples of this - Taylor Hicks) is something else. There's no "there" there at all.

I was saying the same thing about David Archuletta last year. So far, his songs have been popular so I'm being proven wrong, but I think they jury's still out.

[Einselen]

"Quality" doesn't just mean vocal quality. There's quality in Britney Spears music. It's not singing talent, but the music has what it takes to be a hit. The songs are "good" to some segment of the population who listens to them. They're catchy and upbeat and have a good hook. Britney herself has fairly little to do with that, but she's a vehicle for some talented producers and songwriters.

This Scott thing (and the mother of all examples of this - Taylor Hicks) is something else. There's no "there" there at all.

I was saying the same thing about David Archuletta last year. So far, his songs have been popular so I'm being proven wrong, but I think they jury's still out.

I agree. I thought of Taylor Hicks as well, not the best singer, but was more likable and goofy on stage.

Now for David A, I am not sure if you are comparing him to Scott and Taylor or not. He was a great singer but he was not a performer. He could sing. David Cook was a performer. He played guitar, had a great stage presence, changed up the songs, etc.

Another great example of a performer but not so great singer was Blake Lewis (beatboxing guy). That kid really did make the songs his own.

Adam is also in this category of great overall and why I think he will win it. He has already shown his dynamics of what he can do. Just look at how different this week was from last few. Each week it is something new. With Lil and Danny it is new, but the same sound and style. Adam also has something about his stage presence, I mean his Black and White MJ performance wasn't the best vocally but performance wise it was great.

[aindik]

Now for David A, I am not sure if you are comparing him to Scott and Taylor or not. He was a great singer but he was not a performer. He could sing. David Cook was a performer. He played guitar, had a great stage presence, changed up the songs, etc.

I was saying last year that David A was getting votes because he was likeable, not because he was good. I was also predicting he'd be a commercial flop because his fan base was made up of people who don't listen to pop radio and don't buy music (basically, people who thought he reminded them of their grandchildren). So far, his songs are doing well commercially.

[timckelley]

So, what was more disgusting - the gallon of sweat pouring off Ruben's head or the extreme close-up of Matt Giarud's monstrous forehead wart? :)

What struck me was the massive blimping out that has happened to Stevie Wonder. The shot from behind is what really captured his flesh size.

[timckelley]

By the way, I liked how Adam reacted when he was safe. He just smiled good naturedly, and didn't act all shocked a la Melinda Dolittle.

[bruinfan]

No idea how Megan stayed out of the bottom three. VFTW can't have that much impact this late in the competition right? Do they post the vote spreads between the Idols?
vtfw does have an effect, this EARLY in the competition. when it's 10-12 singers, the voting is spread out, so it doesn't take as much to not come in last. once the singers get pared down, it gets harder to overcome the core voters who vote for the good singers... so eventually they are unable to make the effect last.

[Einselen]

I was saying last year that David A was getting votes because he was likeable, not because he was good. I was also predicting he'd be a commercial flop because his fan base was made up of people who don't listen to pop radio and don't buy music (basically, people who thought he reminded them of their grandchildren). So far, his songs are doing well commercially.

I think he got so far because of both. He was likeable and he was technically a good singer. He didn't win though because he was just so plain. David Cook had range, dynamics, stage presences. David A could just sing, mostly slower ballads too.

Coming to this year Lil' Rounds can sing. Adam has diversity, range, stage presence. Danny can sing and he is starting to gain some stage presence with his quirky dancing. This is why I think it is Adam's competition to win.

[JLucPicard]

Coming to this year Lil' Rounds can sing. Adam has diversity, range, stage presence. Danny can sing and he is starting to gain some stage presence with his quirky dancing. This is why I think it is Adam's competition to win.
I agree with much of this. I think what Adam will have to be careful of is too many performances like 'Ring of Fire' and too few of those like this week. As much as I'm sure some liked 'Ring of Fire', I think a lot more had a WTF attitude about it. Too many of those could certainly hurt rather than help him.

[bareyb]

A better implementation of the save rule would have been: Once the competition gets to the Final Six, if we feel someone gets voted off too early, we can save them prior to the Final Two.

I hate this new rule. It's stupid and worse, it assumes we are all stupid too. If that guy had sung like an Angel from Heaven and it was the best he's ever sounded, there was still NO WAY they were going to use their one and only save for him. Not gonna happen. No way. No how. And to imply anything else is disingenuous at best.

If they must use this rule, simply use it when you are going to use it. Stop pretending like every contestant has the same shot to be saved. The save has nothing to do with how well they sing that last song for the judges. They already know who is going to be saved and who isn't. It was his turn to go and it was the right time for it. Of course they didn't save him. :rolleyes:

My favorite BY FAR is Adam. Simon said he came into his own as a star this week. I disagree. He did that last week with that rendition of "Ring of Fire". That was AWESOME... What a risk that was. It could SO easily have been lame, but he managed to pull it off. Go Adam! I agree with whoever said it's his to lose at this point.

[aindik]

I hate this new rule. It's stupid and worse, it assumes we are all stupid too. If that guy had sung like an Angel from Heaven and it was the best he's ever sounded, there was still NO WAY they were going to use their one and only save for him. Not gonna happen. No way. No how. And to imply anything else is disingenuous at best.

If they must use this rule, simply use it when you are going to use it. Stop pretending like every contestant has the same shot to be saved. The save has nothing to do with how well they sing that last song for the judges. They already know who is going to be saved and who isn't. It was his turn to go and it was the right time for it. Of course they didn't save him. :rolleyes:

I agree with all this. But then, WTF was the point of making the judges look like idiots with their "we haven't decided yet" charade, if it was a charade? Everyone just looked dumb.

I liked the dialog:
Simon: We haven't decided yet.
Seacrest: Well, there's another show coming on.

Completely frustrated with the knowledge that only he has any sense of broadcasting.

I also liked Simon trying to go back to "Paula, yes or no" mode of the early rounds.

Completely messy last night. If the save is pre-decided (and I think it is), what's the benefit of everything looking like a disorganized mess?

[timckelley]

Yes, if Paula didn't like Simon's decision, she should have at least answered his yes/no question. I think she has problems making committing statements.

[jay_man2]

... I think she has problems making committing statements.Really. :p

[aindik]

The judges really need to get their expletive together when it comes to making a final decision at the end. Simon had to assert is authority because they couldn't come to a decision.

As soon as Simon says no, it's no. They need four yeses to get saved.

[Einselen]

I think she has problems making committing statements.

Except for when she predicts who will be in the finals.

[DevdogAZ]

If they must use this rule, simply use it when you are going to use it. Stop pretending like every contestant has the same shot to be saved. The save has nothing to do with how well they sing that last song for the judges. They already know who is going to be saved and who isn't. It was his turn to go and it was the right time for it. Of course they didn't save him. :rolleyes:

I agree with all this. But then, WTF was the point of making the judges look like idiots with their "we haven't decided yet" charade, if it was a charade? Everyone just looked dumb.

Completely messy last night. If the save is pre-decided (and I think it is), what's the benefit of everything looking like a disorganized mess?
As I said above, they think the viewers are stupid and they think we hang on the edge of our seats to find out if the person is really going to be saved. Given that last week the ratings for the results show were higher than the performance show for the first time ever (other than the finals), perhaps they are right.

[bareyb]

As I said above, they think the viewers are stupid and they think we hang on the edge of our seats to find out if the person is really going to be saved. Given that last week the ratings for the results show were higher than the performance show for the first time ever (other than the finals), perhaps they are right.

They seem to be making that correlation. Personally I think it's simply a coincidence. Or perhaps people wanted to see if Adam's risk paid off. Or maybe they just like Kara... There could be any number of reasons. I find it hard to believe it was because of the new rule. That would seem to imply that "America" as a whole (present company excluded of course) is either sadistic or stupid. :p

[TiVoCrastinator]

Paging Mr. Huge Picture Poster.
Mr. Huge Picture Poster- pick up the white courtesy phone, your pictures are making the messages too wide to read without scrolling horizontally. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

(Okay, so this was so-o-o last page, but I wondered if it annoyed anyone else?)

[timckelley]

In fact, his 3 pics are side to side. All he needs to do is add some carriage returns to line up the pictures vertically and the problem would be solved.

[appleye1]

Paging Mr. Huge Picture Poster.
Mr. Huge Picture Poster- pick up the white courtesy phone, your pictures are making the messages too wide to read without scrolling horizontally. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

(Okay, so this was so-o-o last page, but I wondered if it annoyed anyone else?)Hmmm...what browser? I'm using IE7 and the only post I'm having to scroll is the picture post itself.

Looks like this:
http://www.appleye.com/no_scroll_tcf.jpg

[Einselen]

Hmmm...what browser? I'm using IE7 and the only post I'm having to scroll is the picture post itself.

Looks like this:
http://www.appleye.com/no_scroll_tcf.jpg

IE7 :eek:!

I am using chrome and the pictures line themselves up ok. 2 on top, 1 on bottom.

[appleye1]

IE7 :eek:!:confused:

[Aniketos]

Firefox here and the top two are together, third is underneath, no scrolling required.

Stop using IE! It's the devil!

[jay_man2]

Safari here and all three are stacked vertically. No scrolling here.

[Kamakzie]

Another vote for Firefox!

[Rosincrans]

I agree with all this. But then, WTF was the point of making the judges look like idiots with their "we haven't decided yet" charade, if it was a charade? Everyone just looked dumb.The week before Simon told Alexis that it all depended on her last performance. Then while she sang her heart out to them, they ignored her. I think there was a lot of backlash on this, so they overcompensated this week. They pretended to really listen to Mike's performance and then had to pretend to discuss it. Since they will never own up to the fact that it is predecided, they will have to either cut to commercial or continue with these awkward moments.

[JLucPicard]

I think I'm more annoyed with Ryan continually mentioning the save throughout the results show and playing it up like it DOES matter that I am with anything the judges are doing.