Amazing Race - 2/22/09 [Text View]

jradosh

02-23-2009, 06:26 AM

Did CBS REALLY just let a semen joke slip through on the Amazing Race?!

You mean the "Something About Mary" reference? Not so bad really since they've actually shown that movie on public TV.

The "happy Bavarians drinking their beer" were too corny! Were we supposed to believe that they sat their drinking and laughing from the time the first team arrived until the last? They'd have been trashed! :eek:

I feel bad for the hillbilly team... but she was so bad a racer that I'm glad they're gone.

Deaf boy is really starting to annoy me. :(

So-so episode in total. But I'm still hooked.

Einselen

02-23-2009, 07:40 AM

I noticed that at the road block that there was a note at the bottom saying due to safety reasons the person doing the task had to be able to hear verbal cues. That was an easy choice for the mom and son team on who would perform the task.

loubob57

02-23-2009, 07:57 AM

It was getting a bit annoying hearing Linda cry. Guess that won't be a problem anymore.

goblue97

02-23-2009, 08:04 AM

You mean the "Something About Mary" reference? Not so bad really since they've actually shown that movie on public TV.

I believe I heard one of the ladies complaining about getting something cream) in her eye during the pie challenge also. :D

TiVo'Brien

02-23-2009, 08:34 AM

It wouldn't have bothered me if the wind hadn't died down and Gay Dad had to hike down the mountain, coming in last. He's annoying me. OTOH, he got to do one of the absolute coolest roadblocks ever. I wonder if the show hired those 'chutists or if that's a local tourist attraction. I'd love to do that. :up:

Kinda sorry to see the Rednecks go, but there was no way they were going very far anyway. It was sad to see the wife get lost on the trail and have to catch a ride.

The two black chicks have got to get their act together or they'll be out soon. How many times did they get lost?

IJustLikeTivo

02-23-2009, 08:41 AM

You mean the "Something About Mary" reference? Not so bad really since they've actually shown that movie on public TV.

The "happy Bavarians drinking their beer" were too corny! Were we supposed to believe that they sat their drinking and laughing from the time the first team arrived until the last? They'd have been trashed! :eek:

Clearly you have not been to Octoberfest. They can certainly drink for that long.

IJustLikeTivo

02-23-2009, 08:44 AM

It wouldn't have bothered me if the wind hadn't died down and Gay Dad had to hike down the mountain, coming in last. He's annoying me. OTOH, he got to do one of the absolute coolest roadblocks ever. I wonder if the show hired those 'chutists or if that's a local tourist attraction. I'd love to do that. :up:

Not sure about that location for sure but it is quite common to have para sail places in the mountains. I've seen them several times. Sadly the times I have seem then, I was over the limit for tandem rides. I'm not now and I certainly hope to see a chance when I go to Switzerland in June.... That would be sweet!

jradosh

02-23-2009, 09:04 AM

Clearly you have not been to Octoberfest. They can certainly drink for that long.

I've been drinking in Germany and I know they can go a long time... but I never saw them be that disciplined when do it. :)

laria

02-23-2009, 09:45 AM

I wonder if the hillbillies would have gotten a time penalty if they had by some miracle beat the flight attendants. Boy, those flight attendants are dumb. :)

VegasVic

02-23-2009, 09:46 AM

Yeah I was thinking there had to be some kind of time penalty for getting a ride.

scottykempf

02-23-2009, 10:04 AM

IJustLikeTivo

02-23-2009, 10:09 AM

Donbadabon

02-23-2009, 10:09 AM

laria

02-23-2009, 10:11 AM

I think when Phil was reading the description of the challenge, it said "Follow the marked trail to the bottom". So it is safe to assume that they would have gotten some sort of time penalty, but since they probably would have finished last anyway, it don't think it would have mattered.

I don't know, they did see the flight attendants a couple times running around at the pie throwing challenge. :) I don't think they were as far behind as you might expect with her going down the wrong side of the mountain and all.

By the way, did anyone else notice the little "14 hours" blurb at the bottom of the screen after a few times had rolled into the pit stop? I think it said 14 hours after the leg started or something like that. I wish they'd have showed that for when the flight attendants and the hillbillies came in. :) It seemed like they were way behind the rest. I guess we'll just have to wait until next week's start to find out how far back the flight attendants were.

IJustLikeTivo

02-23-2009, 10:16 AM

I don't know, they did see the flight attendants a couple times running around at the pie throwing challenge. :) I don't think they were as far behind as you might expect with her going down the wrong side of the mountain and all.

By the way, did anyone else notice the little "14 hours" blurb at the bottom of the screen after a few times had rolled into the pit stop? I think it said 14 hours after the leg started or something like that. I wish they'd have showed that for when the flight attendants and the hillbillies came in. :) It seemed like they were way behind the rest. I guess we'll just have to wait until next week's start to find out how far back the flight attendants were.

I was puzzled by the 14 hour thing as well. What purpose did that serve? did it matter? Besides, if the leg started at 2 AM, that meant it was 4 PM and it was already dark? Something's weird there. It was fall in Germany when they filmed. Do europeans have daylight savings time?

VegasVic

02-23-2009, 10:58 AM

Yeah the 14 hour thing was confusing. What was the point of that, just to tell us how long it's been since they started the leg? Obviously we'll know next week what time each team checked in but what I'd like to know every week is how far behind the team was that was eliminated. I know they always try to make it appear close but I'd like to know the actual time.

janry

02-23-2009, 01:04 PM

Why do people that have never traveled, or gotten off the couch in the last 15 years think they stand a chance in this show?

IJustLikeTivo

02-23-2009, 01:16 PM

Why do people that have never traveled, or gotten off the couch in the last 15 years think they stand a chance in this show?

That part I get. What I don't understand is why they are chosen. Why cast someone who is clearly not going to work out beyond a week or two. Isn't it better TV is the teams are competitive?

pdhenry

02-23-2009, 02:25 PM

Someone has to leave the first couple of weeks. Sometimes it's not the ones you think.

VegasVic

02-23-2009, 02:34 PM

There have been teams who have surprised me by making it farther than I thought. But when I look back at the first team or two eliminated in each race I can't say any of them surprised me.

DevdogAZ

02-23-2009, 02:37 PM

I've been drinking in Germany and I know they can go a long time... but I never saw them be that disciplined when do it. :)
I'm pretty sure the people in the tent just got to hang out and chat when no teams were present, but as soon as the production assistants signaled that a team was coming toward the tent, they got in their places and had to act like there was a big merry festival going on. It did look pretty corny on TV to seen them all swaying back and forth in unison for several hours.

Glad to see Steve and Linda gone. They were never going to last long on the race, and the way they treated each other, with her being totally scared of him and him seeming nice most of the time but occasionally losing his temper, was just bizarre.

Also, the one black girl always harping on the fact that the other black girl treats her like a little sister was just stupid. Get over yourself, woman! I'm pretty sure that if there had actually been condescending stuff said, they'd have shown it, because TAR loves to promote that crap, but since the only thing we saw was the one girl complaining, I'm pretty sure she's just a b!tch.

Ruth

02-23-2009, 02:51 PM

I was puzzled by the 14 hour thing as well. What purpose did that serve? did it matter? Besides, if the leg started at 2 AM, that meant it was 4 PM and it was already dark? Something's weird there. It was fall in Germany when they filmed. Do europeans have daylight savings time?

What was even weirder is I could swear it said it was 14 hours since the start of the race, instead of the leg, which could not possibly be true.

I took it to mean that the team they were showing personally had been on that leg for 14 hours, not that it was 14 hours since the #1 team started the leg. That would make more sense with the daylight issue, since those were later teams that started closer to dawn.

I too am glad we don't have to watch Linda be so frightened of her husband anymore. So sad. :(

Personally I like the deaf kid & Mom team.

I also noticed the "hearing people only" restriction at the roadblock. I wonder how many of those there will be? I assume they have some sort of way to make sure it doesn't end up conflicting with whatever this season's rule about splitting the roadblocks up is. It wouldn't be fair if they got to the end of the race and he needed to do more roadblocks, but all the remaining ones were off limits to him.

VegasVic

02-23-2009, 02:54 PM

Yes it did say 14 hours since the race started, not leg. Of course the way TAR is set up with a bunch up on nearly every leg, it really is a series of individual races but I still thought it was odd.

LooseWiring

02-23-2009, 02:54 PM

Did CBS REALLY just let a semen joke slip through on the Amazing Race?!

My favorite was when the gay father and son said something to the effect of "Lets go look for some wood".

tivotvaddict

02-23-2009, 10:50 PM

I thought I was the only one getting the domestic violence vibe from the hicks. I hope she has family/friends that see this as a wakeup call and can help.

I thought the Segway obstacle course looked like fun! I'm glad the one team ended up doing the hang gliding so we could see the spectacular country from the air. If I weren't so afraid of heights I would have enjoyed that. :)

Einselen

02-23-2009, 10:54 PM

mattack

02-23-2009, 11:04 PM

If the hillbillies had made it through to another show, I wouldn't be able to watch it. Seeing that woman cry, and being so scared of her husband was not entertaining to me. I am so glad they are gone.

Scared of her husband? They seemed perfect for each other.

I liked this episode.. I liked the pie throwing, though at least a couple of the teams DIDN'T throw it in each others' face.. i.e. when the cherry one was thrown, it landed on their chest or head.

The mysterious part is why they had a Segway challenge there...

IJustLikeTivo

02-23-2009, 11:16 PM

What surprised me is how many people chose to go to the pie challenge before a team finally chose the Segway challenge.

This observation has caused me to ask a question of the viewership here. Which task would you perform, the random luck of the draw where you could get lucky and move through it quickly, but also run the risk of getting unlucky and being there awhile "searching" or the average skill oriented challenge?

Statistically the determinate option is usually better. There have been times when the random ones have been unwinable (hay bales) and others ( e.g. nesting dolls in russia ) where is seems like everyone found the clue immediately.

If you have a task with a known resolution that's usually works better than one with a random aspect like the pies.

Einselen

02-23-2009, 11:27 PM

Statistically the determinate option is usually better.

That is what I thought but I wasn't sure if I learned that somewhere or if I was playing "the safe option".

The other thing is I have been on a segway before so I knew how easy it would be to "learn" where maybe the racers were concerned the training would be too hard (I mean look at Dandrew last year trying to learn how to march :D)

heySkippy

02-24-2009, 05:20 AM

wendiness1

02-24-2009, 10:22 AM

With the cheese carrying challenge last week and the cake throwing this week, I wonder if TAR has decided to introduce more slapstick as a weekly feature.

DevdogAZ

02-24-2009, 11:21 AM

I loved it when the old dad was trying to convince others to stay on the mountain, and he said something like "don't be scared" to the short stunt man who couldn't have been more incredulous at the notion. He was starting to get a bit pissed at dad right before he hiked down.
He was trying to play into the stunt man's ego and pride, by making him feel like he had to stick around at the top of the mountain to prove he was a man. Good strategy, IMO, even though it didn't work.
What surprised me is how many people chose to go to the pie challenge before a team finally chose the Segway challenge.

This observation has caused me to ask a question of the viewership here. Which task would you perform, the random luck of the draw where you could get lucky and move through it quickly, but also run the risk of getting unlucky and being there awhile "searching" or the average skill oriented challenge?
I was also surprised how many chose the cake throwing. The Segways seemed like a no brainer to me. Fun, finite, and relatively easy.

Anubys

02-24-2009, 11:28 AM

I didn't get a domestic abuse vibe at all...but am glad they are gone...

funny that the flight attendants couldn't make the earlier flight :)

IJustLikeTivo

02-24-2009, 11:46 AM

I didn't get a domestic abuse vibe at all...but am glad they are gone...

funny that the flight attendants couldn't make the earlier flight :)

I didn't get that per se but it was clear she was afraid of making him angry. I suspect he yells at her but I saw not evidence of a Jonathan (aka Asshat ) and Victoria thing happening.

scsiguy72

02-24-2009, 12:05 PM

My favorite was when the gay father and son said something to the effect of "Lets go look for some wood".

:):):)

LOL

janry

02-24-2009, 12:56 PM

What surprised me is how many people chose to go to the pie challenge before a team finally chose the Segway challenge.

I've often told my wife that if we did TAR, I'd insist on picking the challenge that seems to be the most fun. Might as well make the thing as much of a vacation as possible because frankly, our chances of winning are pretty slim.

Inundated

02-24-2009, 01:20 PM

I wonder if the hillbillies would have gotten a time penalty if they had by some miracle beat the flight attendants. Boy, those flight attendants are dumb. :)

They HAVE to be gone next week. They are WAY overdue for the Dumb Penalty! You can get away with that a couple of weeks. But with Steve and Linda out, the flight attendants have just lost their backstop keeping them from Philimination.

Glad to see Steve and Linda gone. They were never going to last long on the race, and the way they treated each other, with her being totally scared of him and him seeming nice most of the time but occasionally losing his temper, was just bizarre..

I'm still not sure how to see Steve and Linda. Is he abusive, and is she actually afraid of him? Is there a big problem there? His temper seemed more in check this episode, though that could just be a "they're leaving anyway, no need to pile on" edit.

I wasn't looking forward to their relationship dynamic no matter what it was, so I'm glad they're gone.

Is anyone else having trouble coming up with a clear (personal) favorite? A team they're hoping to root for?

Margie and Luke would be an inspiring story, but the show spends way too much time trying to hammer that into your head...and feels the need to show other teams talking about just how inspiring the story is. We get it. Run the race, and let the inspiration come naturally.

The lawyer siblings seem like a good team, but I'm having trouble rooting for them for some reason.

Same with Brad and Victoria...they don't seem to be "standing out" for me. I only track them because they're Ohioans.

I'm also sick of the younger half of Kisha & Jen going on about how her older sister doesn't respect her. Again, we get it.

Inundated

02-24-2009, 01:24 PM

Steve and Linda talk with the L.A. Times:

http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/the-amazing-race-14--4146/

Linda: I spent four hours on the mountain. TV didn’t show it.

(on how the show affected their relationship)
Linda: I don’t think it’s affected us at all. In the race there is a lot of stress and you go without sleep and eating and depending on your money situation. Even though we argued more than we normally would, it was just the extreme pressure. Our anniversary is coming up on Thursday and I don’t think we’re getting divorced. (She laughed)

Steve: We still support each other. I don’t think it has changed our lives in a negative way. I would like to think that it’s going to change us in a positive way. The biggest way being that it has opened us up to other people and we’ve formed friendships that we typically wouldn’t have done.

They had planned a trip to Peru, which they had to cancel when they joined the race.

Anubys

02-24-2009, 01:25 PM

I'm in the same boat...I don't love or hate any team remaining...

which makes the loss of the dynamic couple :p in the first week that much more pronounced...they would have made this season a huge success had they lasted 6-7 weeks...OTOH elimination station is more fun because they are there...

so this is shaping up to be a pretty boring season...

scsiguy72

02-24-2009, 01:30 PM

If Steve and Linda were stuck at the mountain for 4 hours what in the world were the flight attendants doing during that time that made put them so far behind?

They can't be long for this race

Anubys

02-24-2009, 01:31 PM

If Steve and Linda were stuck at the mountain for 4 hours what in the world were the flight attendants doing during that time that made put them so far behind?

looking for wood.

:D

JLucPicard

02-24-2009, 03:03 PM

I was also surprised how many chose the cake throwing. The Segways seemed like a no brainer to me. Fun, finite, and relatively easy.
Having never even seen a Segway 'live & in person', let alone ridden one, I can see that people would choose the pie throwing. At the point where they made that choice, all they knew is that they would be throwing pies at a target. I'm guessing there may have been a lot more doing the Segway had they known that the target was your face!

Anubys

02-24-2009, 03:35 PM

just to make sure: once you pick who is doing a road block, you're stuck with that choice and can't switch, is that correct?

Cragmyre

02-24-2009, 03:41 PM

Correct, a road block is the person you pick, before knowing the actual task ( unless you can figure it out based upon your surroundings ), and a detour you can change the task you pick all you like :)

HIHZia

02-24-2009, 03:49 PM

bruinfan

02-24-2009, 04:01 PM

There was one shot where Steve threw up his hands to cheer and Linda flinched like he was going to hit her. That's what gave me the violence vibe. It may have been coincindence or it may have been cake flying off him, who knows, but that's what made me think he may be abusive.

i totally get the abuse vibe... the fear she has of upsetting him seems extraordinary.. and he has shown glimpses in the first episode... i think he realized how he looked with all the cameras, and made an effort to stay in check... men who are abusive know they are abusive and make an effort to hide it from outsiders.

i agree about the sisters... the one has got an attitude.. wonder what's up her craw...

and on another note... how much info do the racers get as far as best way to book flights? it seems like they always pick a common way to book. this time, most of them made it a point to borrow a cell phone and call. it's like someone told them to do it. other times, it's go to the internet cafe. other times, they just go to the counter. but it seems like they get direction on how to book.. . even the ones that missed the flight cuz it was full, they said they should've called. why EVERYONE wouldn't follow it, i don't know.

scottykempf

02-24-2009, 04:14 PM

and on another note... how much info do the racers get as far as best way to book flights? it seems like they always pick a common way to book. this time, most of them made it a point to borrow a cell phone and call. it's like someone told them to do it. other times, it's go to the internet cafe. other times, they just go to the counter. but it seems like they get direction on how to book.. . even the ones that missed the flight cuz it was full, they said they should've called. why EVERYONE wouldn't follow it, i don't know.

All they had to do was watch any previous season of TAR. Teams have been doing the cell phone in the cab bit for a loooonnngggg time. To get on this season and not do so is stupid. They are probably told that in certain countries you have to book your ticket at an outside agency, like India IIRC.

Anubys

02-24-2009, 04:18 PM

my guess is that teams do their research while in the pit stop...the hotel people tell them that the only way to book is through the a travel agent, for example, so that's what they all do...

stellie93

02-24-2009, 04:20 PM

I thought it was unfair that they weren't told that they might have to walk down the mountain if weather conditions were bad. Each team chose the person who was least able to do a physical challenge to make sure that person would get to do enough. Then it turned out to be totally physical. It would have really been unfair if Gay Dad had been eliminated since he couldn't walk. Of course, if he doesn't get better soon, they're toast anyway.

I like he Asian siblings, but they're almost to perfect to be true--too nice. ;)

pdhenry

02-24-2009, 04:24 PM

I was surprised that they took a cab from Stechelberg to Zurich. That's about a 2 1/2 hour drive, 200 Km. But it takes even longer by train, so there you go.

pdhenry

02-24-2009, 04:27 PM

I thought it was unfair that they weren't told that they might have to walk down the mountain if weather conditions were bad. Each team chose the person who was least able to do a physical challenge to make sure that person would get to do enough.Well, that's the nature of a Road Block, isn't it? You decide first and then you learn what the challenge entails.

DevdogAZ

02-24-2009, 04:48 PM

I was surprised that they took a cab from Stechelberg to Zurich. That's about a 2 1/2 hour drive, 200 Km. But it takes even longer by train, so there you go.
Explains why they had something close to $600 for this leg, when nothing else should have cost them money other than possibly a tank of gas.

In fact, is there even train service very close to Stechelberg? From what I can tell, it's up in a relatively remote mountain valley. They probably would have had to take a cab down the valley anyway to find the closest train station, and then they likely would have been on a train that stops at every podunk town between there and Zurich. Considering the tasks they wanted the teams to do later in the leg, it makes sense that they wanted to get them to Munich as soon as possible rather than have them messing around with trains in the Alps.

JLucPicard

02-24-2009, 04:51 PM

Even though they don't get shown much (if at all), I thought there were usually instructions on the clues about what may or may not be acceptable in terms of booking flights (such as you must us an agent or you cannot book by phone).

gschrock

02-24-2009, 05:06 PM

I was also surprised how many chose the cake throwing. The Segways seemed like a no brainer to me. Fun, finite, and relatively easy.

What really surprised me was that it seems like it was the way to go. Maybe it was editing, but it seemed most of the teams finished with it very quickly.

David Platt

02-24-2009, 10:36 PM

They HAVE to be gone next week. They are WAY overdue for the Dumb Penalty! You can get away with that a couple of weeks. But with Steve and Linda out, the flight attendants have just lost their backstop keeping them from Philimination.

I see that you've already forgotten Dandrew from last season. :D

Inundated

02-24-2009, 11:36 PM

I see that you've already forgotten Dandrew from last season. :D

Yipes, I did. I'm pretty sure Dandrew could have survived a direct lightning strike and still made it that far, so perhaps that only works once every 14 seasons or so...

Magnolia88

02-25-2009, 06:47 PM

Why do people that have never traveled, or gotten off the couch in the last 15 years think they stand a chance in this show?

Seriously!

I know I'm a day late and a dollar short on this one, but I don't understand how in the world Linda thought she would last one day on the race. At the very least, start running on that treadmill to build up stamina for a few months before the race!

I did not get any kind of abusive vibe from them, though. I think Linda was just completely exhausted, physically and mentally, and was so frustrated at being unable to keep up, that it led to her crying nonstop and looking so frightened and frazzled. Total exhaustion. She was perhaps the least prepared contestant I can remember in a long time. She was lucky that they made it through the cheese challenge to last until the second leg.

Inundated

02-25-2009, 07:13 PM

She was lucky that they made it through the cheese challenge to last until the second leg.

She was lucky she made it out of Los Angeles without collapsing.

Sheesh! They supposedly have been big fans of the show since Season 1 (!), what show was SHE watching?

I mean, if Wendy and I ever go through applying for the show, I know I'm not in the best shape. If I seriously applied, I'd get my health house in order, lose some weight and exercise more. I wouldn't show up after Phil's raised eyebrow in the first foreign country and say "gee, I've gotta run up a big hill now? Didn't expect this!".

I wouldn't expect Wendy to "carry the weight" of the team, physically. Or otherwise. I wonder how Linda approached that with Steve.

And I'm also still going back and forth on the "is Steve abusive" thing. I got into a lot of grief here for saying that a certain HWSNBN appeared to be so in S6, so I'm backing off for now :)

DUDE_NJX

02-26-2009, 12:32 PM

IJustLikeTivo

02-26-2009, 01:41 PM

And I'm also still going back and forth on the "is Steve abusive" thing. I got into a lot of grief here for saying that a certain HWSNBN appeared to be so in S6, so I'm backing off for now :)

Well, he did actually hit Victoria so that was something less that a judgment call.

Inundated

02-26-2009, 04:38 PM

Well, he did actually hit Victoria so that was something less that a judgment call.

As I recall from the S6 discussions, I was getting a lot of flack for saying that "he hit her"...at least a couple of folks downplayed that into a frustrated push/nudge.

Here, I think Steve raised his hand maybe once or twice...still not great behavior, but not as cut-and-dried as HWSNBN's actions were.

DevdogAZ

02-26-2009, 04:52 PM

As I recall from the S6 discussions, I was getting a lot of flack for saying that "he hit her"...at least a couple of folks downplayed that into a frustrated push/nudge.

Here, I think Steve raised his hand maybe once or twice...still not great behavior, but not as cut-and-dried as HWSNBN's actions were.
Steve did grab Linda's finger and looked like he was going to break it, but then seemed to quickly calm down.

NJChris

02-26-2009, 05:03 PM

I really think you guys are projecting worse things onto how he treats Linda.

Bierboy

02-26-2009, 08:47 PM

I really think you guys are projecting worse things onto how he treats Linda.

You're in denial....:D

dvdapex

02-28-2009, 06:12 PM

I thought I was the only one getting the domestic violence vibe from the hicks. I hope she has family/friends that see this as a wakeup call and can help.

Why don't YOU help and call the police on Linda's behalf?? Is it because the police wouldn't heed your "evidence" of a hunch based on seeing 7.5 minutes of footage of them together on a tv show? Why should we?

Geez, maybe the guy is a wife-beater. Maybe he's a child molester. Maybe he's a pirate or a Care Bear. The fact is that NONE of us have seen enough to be able to make any accusations of this type.

I'm sorry to see them gone. I would have liked to have had them get to go to one or more new places. And, I really would have liked Linda to have been able to do the gliding thing instead of climb down the hill. She seemed afraid of heights (who knows, maybe they hit her when she was a child), and was going to take charge of this challenge and do it. I think that really would have been neat for her to do.

wendiness1

02-28-2009, 08:01 PM

I mean, if Wendy and I ever go through applying for the show, I know I'm not in the best shape. If I seriously applied, I'd get my health house in order, lose some weight and exercise more. I wouldn't show up after Phil's raised eyebrow in the first foreign country and say "gee, I've gotta run up a big hill now? Didn't expect this!".

I wouldn't expect Wendy to "carry the weight" of the team, physically. Or otherwise. I wonder how Linda approached that with Steve.

If? IF? We are, aren't we?

Inundated

03-02-2009, 07:02 PM

If? IF? We are, aren't we?

Oh, I know...I know. You'll get your wish one day, as soon as I figure I won't fall over like Linda did going up that hill... (you ARE in better shape than I am!)

Inundated

03-02-2009, 07:04 PM

Geez, maybe the guy is a wife-beater. Maybe he's a child molester. Maybe he's a pirate or a Care Bear. The fact is that NONE of us have seen enough to be able to make any accusations of this type.

We went through this with HWSNBN back in TAR6.

No one here who's saying that is picking up the phone to call the police in Virginia. (Steve and Linda are from Martinsville, VA, by the way, which I only know because I lived up the road from there in Roanoke for a couple of years.)

It's all within the context of the discussion of what people saw on a TV show, nothing more. Steve isn't getting brought up on charges, he's being discussed as someone appearing on a TV reality/race show.