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Anubys
02-20-2009, 11:21 PM
not sure how I feel about this one...it was slow but interesting...the Ellen character changed too much from the old Ellen to the new one; which didn't make much sense...but I guess it was needed for "the drama"...

Craigbob
02-20-2009, 11:52 PM
Best line of the night:

"How many dead chicks are out there?"

MrGreg
02-21-2009, 02:08 AM
Boring.

I liked this show so much more when there were space battles.

caslu
02-21-2009, 07:18 AM
I still absolutely LOVE this show but... this episode sucked! I was so looking forward to my Friday night TV this week but both this and Terminator were excruciatingly slow and didn't add much of anything to anything. Imagine my surprise when Dollhouse was the best thing I watched last night.

gchance
02-21-2009, 10:51 AM
I think I've figured out the theme for the final 4 episodes...

Boredom.

Greg

GTuck
02-21-2009, 11:02 AM
I think I've figured out the theme for the final 4 episodes...

Boredom.

Greg

It's a shame they didn't have a plan for the show. They should have just ended the show after last season. Nothing has happened. Who cares.

sbourgeo
02-21-2009, 11:17 AM
I think I've figured out the theme for the final 4 episodes...

Boredom.

Yep. Someone wake me when it's over. :(

cheesesteak
02-21-2009, 12:41 PM
Was that an episode of Battlestar Galactica or Days Of Our Lives?

wprager
02-21-2009, 12:48 PM
Was that an episode of Battlestar Galactica or Days Of Our Lives?

+1

I'm finding it impossible to root for anyone. At least next episode looks like they'll finally address Starbuck finding her corpse.

doom1701
02-21-2009, 01:11 PM
Last week Ellen woke up and remembered that she's the savior of Earth-kind. This week she's a psychopathic !@$!@. Oh, and we're going to kill off that kid that we've been beating you over the head with.

Just as with the mutiny episodes, this might have been good a year or two ago. But there are just a few episodes left, and we get to spend one of them watching some bizarre love triangle involving the one eyed guy and two blondes?

I have a sinking feeling that the final episode will wind up being something like this, leaving us with no feeling of closure whatsoever.

Barmat
02-21-2009, 02:13 PM
I am bracing myself for one of the all time worst series finale in the history of television. It seems the writers are still making this crap up as they go with no plan. If I didn't have so much time invested in this show I would have stopped watching long ago.

cwerdna
02-21-2009, 03:07 PM
Ok, at least it wasn't just me. The ep was pretty mundane and just another filler ep.

I'm puzzled by the uneven quality of BSG eps. They range from filler eps like this and some of the ones in season 3.5 to excellent, exciting eps. :confused:

ronsch
02-21-2009, 03:54 PM
It looks like they shot a scene of Adama inspecting the repair work and then interspersed it throughout the episode.

DouglasPHill
02-21-2009, 04:25 PM
Did not care for any of this ep.

Anubys
02-21-2009, 05:00 PM
I have a sinking feeling that the final episode will wind up being something like this, leaving us with no feeling of closure whatsoever.

well, if the writers have shown us anything, it's that they can write season finale that are pretty darn good...so I see no reason why the pattern would not continue...

MrGreg
02-21-2009, 05:09 PM
How exactly did Ellen and Boomer find the fleet?

Dmtalon
02-21-2009, 05:44 PM
How exactly did Ellen and Boomer find the fleet?

AFAIK, they're still at/near Earth, if that's true, then I suppose Ellen knew where it was all along? (A leap possibly)

While I didn't *hate* this episode, it was not of the same caliber as the last 3, which scares me a little.

I felt the same way with the second to last episode of Stargate Atlantis (I think it was the second to last). Where it was an episode of Stargate CSI Las Vegas. At least with BSG we were still in the same universe :-)

Grenadeh
02-21-2009, 08:01 PM
I have to agree and disagree with you all. I continue to leave scathing criticisms of the dolts on SciFi.com for their incredibly blind comments on BSG. This BSG is not about space battles. Please remember that. This is a drama. This story is real, it has character, it has emotion, it is what science fiction is SUPPOSED to be. Not silly pointless epic space battles with no emotion, no depth, no gravity behind them. Having said that I have gone overboard and become furiously pissed off at Ronald and David. I LOVE the hell out of this show, I have since day one. I have faith that the last seven hours of Galactica will be awesome. But I have seriously lost my patience and become epicly fed up and pissed off at this series. NOTHING has happened between 4E12 and 4E18 at all. NOTHING. Several small things that I pray will be tied together. Cavil is coming, don't worry. The revolution is coming. But honestly, I was forced to disperse upon the internet the first and only rendition of Jumping the Battlestar. Honestly looking back I wish I chose Oddie in a leather jacket instead of Baltar but Baltar is the only one to serve Arthurs role in the Homge. Battlestar honestly has jumped the shark since Blood on the Scales and the Oath. It was so unrealistic in terms of temporal scale. And only fifty people died? Yea the hell right.

I honestly felt today when I saw Deadlock they were making it up on the spot but I have seen now that they had this planned over a year ago, and the way it all ties together is brilliant. Also please not ei did not make up this figure. The series finale is 3 hours long, runtime wise. Someone to Watch over me, Islanded in a Sea of Stars, and Daybreak 1 - 3. Daybreak 1 and 2 are the series finale, with a producer hinted third part that MAY have been cut out or edited down to fit time slots. In addition The Plan is truly the last 2 episodes of the series, and will reveal a lot that the last four episodes will not I believe. So in reality there are still 7 hours left. Don't worry. I have faith that it's coming.

Although MY question will never be answered. Who did Caprica meet on Caprica in the mini-series? Is Felix Gaeta Daniel, is Romo Daniel, or is Slick Daniel?

moot
02-21-2009, 08:43 PM
It felt like every 10 minutes they showed us a shot of Adama walking around the repair site looking up. It actually felt like the same scene, just from a different angle, every time. I get it... he's sad and worried about his ship.

Best line of the night (paraphrased): The only thing Tigh loves more than his Six, his wife, or his baby is... Bill Adama!

cwerdna
02-21-2009, 08:58 PM
It looks like they shot a scene of Adama inspecting the repair work and then interspersed it throughout the episode.
Ditto. I guess it was just more to fill the time. Too bad this was such a wasted episode. When BSG is actually airing new eps, I really look forward to seeing them on Friday nights but this what yet another letdown.

This is a drama. This story is real, it has character, it has emotion, it is what science fiction is SUPPOSED to be. Not silly pointless epic space battles with no emotion, no depth, no gravity behind them.
Says who? I'm sure there are others who might think the opposite.

Who defines or sets the standard for what sci fi should be?

IndyJones1023
02-21-2009, 09:47 PM
Olmos sure nailed the "looking at construction overhead" look over and over and over and over and over again.

JETarpon
02-21-2009, 09:50 PM
Best line of the night:

"How many dead chicks are out there?"

No, the best line was: "I'm going to the head. Going to do something more productive. There's this little project I've been working on."

I thought it was a waste of an episode. 5 left, and they give us this?

doom1701
02-21-2009, 10:23 PM
No, the best line was: "I'm going to the head. Going to do something more productive. There's this little project I've been working on."

I thought it was a waste of an episode. 5 left, and they give us this?

That was my favorite line as well. He should have stuck with his original plan, because I can't imagine giving Baltar and his groupies machine guns is a good idea in any universe.

latrobe7
02-22-2009, 12:38 AM
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gchance
02-22-2009, 12:52 AM
http://puntabulous.com/wp-content/loltigh2.jpg

morac
02-22-2009, 01:51 AM
That was my favorite line as well. He should have stuck with his original plan, because I can't imagine giving Baltar and his groupies machine guns is a good idea in any universe.

That part confused me as well, but I think Baltar's point was that there's eventually going to be a revolution so they might as well arm the pro-Cylon groups since the anti-Cylon groups are armed.

Of course giving assault weapons to people who don't know how to use them makes very little sense. Less so since pretty much everyone hates Baltar or are they all chums again?

Tangent
02-22-2009, 03:00 AM
I hope I'm wrong about this, but I suspect that Liam downloaded into Anders' body. With no resurrection facility nearby he just transferred into the nearest available unused body. Since Sam went brain dead that would be his. Since they never have given us details of how resurrection actually works I can see them pulling something like this. The alternative - that Sam just spontaneously rebooted his brain activity - isn't really a whole lot better...

Rob Helmerichs
02-22-2009, 07:50 AM
This is a drama. This story is real, it has character, it has emotion, it is what science fiction is SUPPOSED to be. Not silly pointless epic space battles with no emotion, no depth, no gravity behind them.

Of course giving assault weapons to people who don't know how to use them makes very little sense. Less so since pretty much everyone hates Baltar or are they all chums again?
And morac's point is only one of many examples of why this is NOT a great drama with character, emotion, depth, etc. The "characters" change from episode to episode depending entirely on the needs of the plot for that particular episode. Need Apollo to have been seeing a hooker for months? Fine! Who cares if absolutely nothing that has ever been seen about him in the past even hints that he would ever do such a thing? It would be so cool! So let's do it. Need to show how Starbuck is fracking up her career? Have all her fellow pilots show contempt for her. So what if the previous week they thought she was the hero of the fleet? If would be so cool if everybody hated her!

Need Baltar and his groupies to have automatic weapons? Have Adama give them to him! So what if Adama's spent most of the series trying to push Baltar out the lock? It would be so cool if they had automatic weapons!

There's no real character, no real emotion, no depth, if everything can change at the whim of the writers. If everything can mean anything, then nothing means anything. It's really sad that a show with so much potential, that for a while seemed to be doing so much right, would come to this.

Anubys
02-22-2009, 09:02 AM
I hope I'm wrong about this, but I suspect that Liam downloaded into Anders' body. With no resurrection facility nearby he just transferred into the nearest available unused body. Since Sam went brain dead that would be his. Since they never have given us details of how resurrection actually works I can see them pulling something like this. The alternative - that Sam just spontaneously rebooted his brain activity - isn't really a whole lot better...

that makes total sense...never thought about it but I bet you're right!

ADG
02-22-2009, 09:30 AM
There's no real character, no real emotion, no depth, if everything can change at the whim of the writers. If everything can mean anything, then nothing means anything. It's really sad that a show with so much potential, that for a while seemed to be doing so much right, would come to this.
:up:
Couldn't agree more. I find myself watching now only because I've invested so much time in the series over the years I want to see how it ends, but any real enjoyment of the show is long since gone.

DouglasPHill
02-22-2009, 10:16 AM
I have to agree and disagree with you all. I continue to leave scathing criticisms of the dolts on SciFi.com for their incredibly blind comments on BSG. This BSG is not about space battles. Please remember that. This is a drama. This story is real, it has character, it has emotion, it is what science fiction is SUPPOSED to be. Not silly pointless epic space battles with no emotion, no depth, no gravity behind them. Having said that I have gone overboard and become furiously pissed off at Ronald and David. I LOVE the hell out of this show, I have since day one. I have faith that the last seven hours of Galactica will be awesome. But I have seriously lost my patience and become epicly fed up and pissed off at this series. NOTHING has happened between 4E12 and 4E18 at all. NOTHING. Several small things that I pray will be tied together. Cavil is coming, don't worry. The revolution is coming. But honestly, I was forced to disperse upon the internet the first and only rendition of Jumping the Battlestar. Honestly looking back I wish I chose Oddie in a leather jacket instead of Baltar but Baltar is the only one to serve Arthurs role in the Homge. Battlestar honestly has jumped the shark since Blood on the Scales and the Oath. It was so unrealistic in terms of temporal scale. And only fifty people died? Yea the hell right.

I honestly felt today when I saw Deadlock they were making it up on the spot but I have seen now that they had this planned over a year ago, and the way it all ties together is brilliant. Also please not ei did not make up this figure. The series finale is 3 hours long, runtime wise. Someone to Watch over me, Islanded in a Sea of Stars, and Daybreak 1 - 3. Daybreak 1 and 2 are the series finale, with a producer hinted third part that MAY have been cut out or edited down to fit time slots. In addition The Plan is truly the last 2 episodes of the series, and will reveal a lot that the last four episodes will not I believe. So in reality there are still 7 hours left. Don't worry. I have faith that it's coming.

Although MY question will never be answered. Who did Caprica meet on Caprica in the mini-series? Is Felix Gaeta Daniel, is Romo Daniel, or is Slick Daniel?

Can you say shill?

ronsch
02-22-2009, 10:48 AM
That was my favorite line as well. He should have stuck with his original plan, because I can't imagine giving Baltar and his groupies machine guns is a good idea in any universe.

The only thing left to figure out is when will Paulla use hers on Baltar? She completely sees through him now.

ronsch
02-22-2009, 10:53 AM
I hope I'm wrong about this, but I suspect that Liam downloaded into Anders' body. With no resurrection facility nearby he just transferred into the nearest available unused body. Since Sam went brain dead that would be his. Since they never have given us details of how resurrection actually works I can see them pulling something like this. The alternative - that Sam just spontaneously rebooted his brain activity - isn't really a whole lot better...

I didn't even consider this but I wouldn't put it past the writers to do it.

Another guess as to what might happen. Who wants to bet that Boomer was actually following Cavil's orders in "escaping" with Ellen so that he could use her to find the fleet? After all, she kept telling him that she needed to be with the other four to reinvent resurrection.

pjenkins
02-22-2009, 11:20 AM
This BSG is not about space battles. Please remember that. This is a drama.


Given how utterly HORRIBLE the writers have been with the drama aspects, I'd have preferred they stuck with great space battles. I really can't recall a decent space/battle scene in the last year++ of the show.

Look, a real drama is The Wire. Compare that to BSG and you'll LYAO at calling BSG a "drama". Please.

Anubys
02-22-2009, 01:13 PM
Was that an episode of Battlestar Galactica or Days Of Our Lives?

with all the time spent with Cottle, I'd lean more towards General Hospital...

OTOH, I though the actor playing Tigh did a really good job of acting in this ep...

JETarpon
02-22-2009, 01:15 PM
The other dumb thing about this episode was the whole "the fact that you were able to conceive and I wasn't proves he loves you more than me" thing.

latrobe7
02-22-2009, 01:53 PM
OTOH, I though the actor playing Tigh did a really good job of acting in this ep...
I gotta say that while the writing of BSG really took a dive, the acting has always been pretty good, particularly from the younger actors. I think Tricia Helfer, Grace Park and James Callis (6, 8, Baltar) are great and I would not know them if not for BSG.

stalemate
02-22-2009, 03:00 PM
I thought this episode and the previous were both incredibly boring. And I can't take the Ellen character seriously at all.

BobB
02-22-2009, 04:23 PM
Best line of the night:

"How many dead chicks are out there?"

Lot of good lines in this episode. I agree that was the best, but it was followed closely by "Great-grandpa was a power sander" (Tigh) and "More guns! Bigger guns! Better guns!" (Baltar)

Then there was the closing line of the night: "It's already happened, hasn't it?" which I took to refer to the merging of the human and Cylon races and cultures.

Saturn_V
02-22-2009, 05:05 PM
OTOH, I though the actor playing Tigh did a really good job of acting in this ep...

Michael Hogan's always been my fav in the Battlestar cast. I used to totally despise the Saul Tigh character. Now he's the standout that's changed the most (and been through the most) since the miniseries.

I hope he lands on his feet now that Battlestar's over. I'd be tickled if Hogan shows up on Lost or 24 someday.

Philosofy
02-22-2009, 05:46 PM
Did anyone watch the previous episode when Ellen was lecturing Al on jealousy and pettiness? I thought they could explain her personality transformation by saying she just got all her old memories back, but it turns out she's still a vindictive b1tch. But maybe she's only a b1tch every other episode.

Anubys
02-22-2009, 06:17 PM
Did anyone watch the previous episode when Ellen was lecturing Al on jealousy and pettiness? I thought they could explain her personality transformation by saying she just got all her old memories back, but it turns out she's still a vindictive b1tch. But maybe she's only a b1tch every other episode.

not even...she went back and forth from scene to scene...made no sense at all...I could live with the transformation to her new (old) self once she woke up on the base star, but for her to go back to the human "Ellen" was totally stupid and changed as the "drama" needed it throughout the ep...absolutely atrocious writing...

I mean, it's one thing not to be consistent from season to season...from ep to ep...but from scene to scene? WTF?!

madscientist
02-22-2009, 07:57 PM
not even...she went back and forth from scene to scene...made no sense at all...I could live with the transformation to her new (old) self once she woke up on the base star, but for her to go back to the human "Ellen" was totally stupid and changed as the "drama" needed it throughout the ep...absolutely atrocious writing...

I mean, it's one thing not to be consistent from season to season...from ep to ep...but from scene to scene? WTF?!Maybe it's because she started drinking again when she got to Galactica.

Well, I'm really on the "bad writing" bandwagon. But, if you're looking for a hook to hang your hat on...

Doh
02-22-2009, 08:48 PM
Given how utterly HORRIBLE the writers have been with the drama aspects, I'd have preferred they stuck with great space battles. I really can't recall a decent space/battle scene in the last year++ of the show.

Look, a real drama is The Wire. Compare that to BSG and you'll LYAO at calling BSG a "drama". Please.

Well, the Wire may just be the best show ever on television, so saying it's not as good as the Wire isn't saying that much. I don't think every ep is great, but certainly it's been one of the better dramas on tv the last few years.

vikingguy
02-22-2009, 09:38 PM
Very disappointing that we got a filler episode so close to the end.

Howie
02-22-2009, 10:14 PM
I just hope we don't ultimately get a finale that leaves us hanging out there, ala the Sopranos.

Church AV Guy
02-23-2009, 02:30 AM
I was really shocked and amazed at one line in this episode. I started wondering if the writers ever actually WATCHED their show! When Tigh told Ellen that 6 was pregnant by him, she looked shocked and said "But we created her, how COULD you?" His memory had been wiped, he thought she was dead, and SHE was with Cavil, who was not only her creation, her son, but in the image of her father. She really didn't have the moral high ground here. What were they thinking with THAT line, and line of reasoning?

bengalfreak
02-23-2009, 06:09 AM
Given how utterly HORRIBLE the writers have been with the drama aspects, I'd have preferred they stuck with great space battles. I really can't recall a decent space/battle scene in the last year++ of the show.

Look, a real drama is The Wire. Compare that to BSG and you'll LYAO at calling BSG a "drama". Please.

Your wrong, the first two seasons of BSG were every bit as good as The Wire.

cheesesteak
02-23-2009, 07:25 AM
Your wrong, the first two seasons of BSG were every bit as good as The Wire.
I wouldn't go that far.

Rob Helmerichs
02-23-2009, 08:33 AM
I wouldn't go that far.
Neither would I.

But then, you already knew that. ;)

pjenkins
02-23-2009, 09:37 AM
Your wrong, the first two seasons of BSG were every bit as good as The Wire.

lmao, no. not even close.

Pralix
02-23-2009, 10:35 AM
Based on what I saw on this episode and the previews for this week...

One of the Final Five will remember about the ressurrection system that is somewhere on or near Earth. The Galactica will be "rebuilt" like Starbuck's Viper.

jmak
02-23-2009, 11:22 AM
What happened to D'Anna? I thought she was the leader of the rebel Cylons. The last time I remember seeing her was on earth.

doom1701
02-23-2009, 11:28 AM
What happened to D'Anna? I thought she was the leader of the rebel Cylons. The last time I remember seeing her was on earth.

She said she was tired of the cycle, and just stayed on earth.

Bierboy
02-23-2009, 12:13 PM
well, if the writers have shown us anything, it's that they can write season finale that are pretty darn good...so I see no reason why the pattern would not continue...

Maybe a SEASON finale, but there's no way to know if they can manage a decent SERIES finale....

I'm also in the camp of having invested WAY too much time in watching this series to bail on it now...

Anubys
02-23-2009, 12:51 PM
She said she was tired of the cycle, and just stayed on earth.

huh...I don't remember that at all...

even so, does that mean her entire line stayed behind or just the individual?

JohnB1000
02-23-2009, 12:57 PM
Here's my argument. I agree that Sci Fi does not have to be space battles, but this seasons fighting episodes were the best because (a) we cared about the outcome (b) we were not 100% sure of the outcome. The action is fun but it's the interest in the story that keeps us interested.

In this episode we didn't have anything much to care about and there was nothing that created any doubt.

For me the episode when the Pegasus appeared to rescue them from New Caprica is the best moment I've ever seen on TV so I'm sticking around until the end :)

voripteth
02-23-2009, 01:03 PM
Count me in among the confused about how Ellen can go from savior to bitch in a single episode. She even talked about only having 5 people left in the Cylon race. Shouldn't the Cylons be trying to mate every which way to try and get the gene pool spread around?

Every time Ellen went on the jealous bitch rampage I just shook my head and wondered what happened to the show. Perhaps it too is self destructing...

kaszeta
02-23-2009, 01:17 PM
huh...I don't remember that at all...

even so, does that mean her entire line stayed behind or just the individual?

IIRC, there isn't a three line anymore, since the resurrection hub was destroyed, and they only unboxed the single D'anna Three.

So when she stayed on Earth (saying it was better than possibly meeting up with the Cavils), there shouldn't be any others out there.

Of course, I'm expecting that somewhere out there the original resurrection ship (the one the Final Five used when Earth was nuked) is still floating around.

voripteth
02-23-2009, 01:31 PM
Was it my imagination or was there recently mention that there are now eight skinjob Cylons?

Anubys
02-23-2009, 01:31 PM
Was it my imagination or was there recently mention that there are now eight skinjob Cylons?

not your imagination...Daniel was "discontinued" by Cavil...

Rob Helmerichs
02-23-2009, 02:38 PM
Was it my imagination or was there recently mention that there are now eight skinjob Cylons?
Not now...there were eight, as Anubys said, before Cavil downsized the line.

IndyJones1023
02-23-2009, 02:42 PM
Not now...there were eight, as Anubys said, before Cavil downsized the line.

You mean, before Moore realized they needed an extra Spylon for some lame plot point.

Anubys
02-23-2009, 02:44 PM
You mean, before Moore realized they needed an extra Spylon for some lame plot point.

that, plus explain Kara...including, but not limited to, her visions and reincarnation...

the above is just a guess, of course...

Rob Helmerichs
02-23-2009, 03:34 PM
You mean, before Moore realized they needed an extra Spylon for some lame plot point.
Not so much a lame plot point as lame way of making sense of the way they made stuff up before they made other things up...

But yes. Lame either way.

IndyJones1023
02-23-2009, 03:35 PM
Not so much a lame plot point as lame way of making sense of the way they made stuff up before they made other things up...

But yes. Lame either way.

LOL. Yes, they're making stuff up to explain away how they made stuff up.

jbppsu
02-23-2009, 04:03 PM
Here's a few more inconsistant things in this episode.

Last week, Tyrol is asked by the admiral to rejoin the crew. He does, he shows every sign of being the chief again. He's even wearing the uniform. He's thrown himself into repairing Galatica. Then he votes to leave with the other cylons. WTF? Where'd that come from? Oh, right, the writers needed the vote to come down to 2-2 so they could have some lame tension with Ellen casting the deciding vote. That's where it came from.

And what was up with majority rule. "It's the cylon way". If the majority votes we all have to go? Really? You mean go with the REBEL cylons who just split from the majority of the other cylons! Guess that cylon rule doesn't apply to them.

This show has gone from good to bad to TERRIBLE. It's fiction. You have to make stuff up, I get it. But be consistant. When something is established in one season it should still be true at the end of the show. Although at this point I'd settle for something that was established last episode still be true a week later. The worst part is the whole "They have a plan" that we were beat over the heads with every episode the first few seasons. Really? They have a plan? Can anyone explain what that plan is? And would that plan make any sense with stuff that was established in seasons 1 and 2?

I can't wait until Ron Moore and his crack team of writers sit around and say, "Ya know what would be cool!? Lets have ANOTHER mutiny! Nobody will ever see that coming. But this time Lee will lead the rebels. Wait. We've already sorta done that. Ok, how about it's Lee, but this time he's a cylon! Wait we already have revealed all the cylons? But this is such a cool idea! Lets just make another cylon model! Yeah, that is a really cool idea lets do it! This is going to be so cool!"

doom1701
02-23-2009, 04:38 PM
Last week, Tyrol is asked by the admiral to rejoin the crew. He does, he shows every sign of being the chief again. He's even wearing the uniform. He's thrown himself into repairing Galatica. Then he votes to leave with the other cylons. WTF? Where'd that come from? Oh, right, the writers needed the vote to come down to 2-2 so they could have some lame tension with Ellen casting the deciding vote. That's where it came from.

That bugged me too. Here's Tyrol, back doing what he loves, just deciding "Eh, screw it...and while we're at it, I can get away from that not-son of mine, too!"

zalusky
02-23-2009, 05:30 PM
Yea but what is Tyrol doing? He is leading a team to basically convert the ship into a cylon by pasting the bio material everywhere.

It's all about morphing whether it be hardware morphing, or skin jobs doing hybrid sex with humans, or older cylons, doing it with new cylons.

It's about destroying purity, the same thing with the cultures now that the quorum has been wiped out people are losing their historical identities and setting them adrift.

doom1701
02-23-2009, 06:54 PM
Yea but what is Tyrol doing? He is leading a team to basically convert the ship into a cylon by pasting the bio material everywhere.

It's all about morphing whether it be hardware morphing, or skin jobs doing hybrid sex with humans, or older cylons, doing it with new cylons.

It's about destroying purity, the same thing with the cultures now that the quorum has been wiped out people are losing their historical identities and setting them adrift.


Exactly, he's all about mixing everything together...until someone says "Hey, why don't all of us Cylons leave the humans behind and be all loaner and stuff?" and he jumps right on board.

Rob Helmerichs
02-23-2009, 07:11 PM
"Hey, why don't all of us Cylons leave the humans behind and be all loaner and stuff?"
"Yeah! We toasters were MADE for banking!" :D

Tangent
02-23-2009, 07:51 PM
Tyrol's vote to leave was probably the most out of character thing I've seen yet. Up to now Galactica's been the only place he ever wanted to be. Boomer and Callie even came in second to Galactica. Now when he gets to meld Cylone tech with the Galactica - a new challenge that his character would seem to live for - he's ready to leave?!? Boooo!

busyba
02-23-2009, 07:56 PM
I'm surprised how no one has mentioned how the Adama/Tigh relationship has gone all Kirk/Spock on us. :)

aintnosin
02-23-2009, 08:17 PM
I keep hearing about the "threat" that Cavil poses, but I don't see it. His main threat seems to be trying to talk people to death.

smak
02-23-2009, 08:58 PM
I still absolutely LOVE this show but... this episode sucked! I was so looking forward to my Friday night TV this week but both this and Terminator were excruciatingly slow and didn't add much of anything to anything. Imagine my surprise when Dollhouse was the best thing I watched last night.

And neither have an excuse. Things shouldn't be this slow when you have 5 episodes left, and your show can get cancelled at any second.

BSG & T:SCC respectively.

When Lost was meandering a bit, they didn't know if they were going 6 years or 15 years, so you can see where they might not know how "fast" to make the show go.

These two don't have those worries.

-smak-

smak
02-23-2009, 09:02 PM
Another dumb thing.

You have one of the cylon's barely alive, hooked up to a bunch of machines, another one with a troubled pregnancy, where at first sign of problems they scream for Doc Cottle, and their decision is to just leave the ship right away?

Who's going to administer to these people on the baseship?

-smak-

zalusky
02-23-2009, 09:34 PM
Exactly, he's all about mixing everything together...until someone says "Hey, why don't all of us Cylons leave the humans behind and be all loaner and stuff?" and he jumps right on board.

Ambivalence!

getbak
02-23-2009, 11:59 PM
"Yeah! We toasters were MADE for banking!" :D
Free toaster with new account.


I'd want a Boomer.

busyba
02-24-2009, 12:24 AM
I'd want a Boomer.

I'd prefer a humm-- nevermind.

USAFSSO
02-24-2009, 03:33 AM
This was a bad one. It better pick up with only 4 left. :down:x2

speedcouch
02-24-2009, 08:45 AM
No, the best line was: "I'm going to the head. Going to do something more productive. There's this little project I've been working on."

No, the best line was Hot Dog saying "How many dead chicks are there out there?" That was hilarious! :D

Cheryl

ihatecable
02-24-2009, 11:26 AM
not sure how I feel about this one...it was slow but interesting...the Ellen character changed too much from the old Ellen to the new one; which didn't make much sense...but I guess it was needed for "the drama"...I don’t know which is more pathetic that she the “brains” in the final five or she is the mother of the cylons who “have a plan”? :eek:

DouglasPHill
02-24-2009, 11:47 AM
plan ? ROFLMAO

Saturn_V
02-24-2009, 12:25 PM
I'm surprised how no one has mentioned how the Adama/Tigh relationship has gone all Kirk/Spock on us. :)

Sure, they're more chummy now that Bill's tanked more often than not. But they were always best friends. I kinda think they've actually switched places- Adama's constantly in turmoil, but Tigh's actually been more controlled and calm since he's discovered his silicon origins.

kemajor
02-24-2009, 01:55 PM
lmao, no. not even close.

No, but Deadwood was better than the wire, so there! :)

- K

busyba
02-24-2009, 06:03 PM
Sure, they're more chummy now that Bill's tanked more often than not. But they were always best friends. I kinda think they've actually switched places- Adama's constantly in turmoil, but Tigh's actually been more controlled and calm since he's discovered his silicon origins.

Yeah, but it wasn't until this episode that Ellen dared speak the love's name. :)

busyba
02-24-2009, 06:06 PM
BTW, can anybody tell if there have been any consequences from the mutiny besides Gaeta and Zarek getting executed?

For instance, what happened to the pilots and/or flight crewbies who were going to kill Apollo? Have any of them been seen going about their business as if nothing ever happened, or have they been quietly "disappeared" from our view?

Rob Helmerichs
02-24-2009, 06:34 PM
For instance, what happened to the pilots and/or flight crewbies who were going to kill Apollo? Have any of them been seen going about their business as if nothing ever happened, or have they been quietly "disappeared" from our view?
That was last week's story. What on Earth does it have to do with this week's story?!?

busyba
02-24-2009, 09:05 PM
That was last week's story. What on Earth does it have to do with this week's story?!?

It just occurred to me when I saw the guy who said "how many dead chicks are there out there?" I could have sworn that he was one of the guys on the Apollo Execution Squad and was surprised that he was walking around.

I could, of course, be misremembering what he did or did not do during the mutiny.


Now it just occurred to me that you might not have been asking me why I was posting in the wrong thread so much as making a rhetorical comment about the writers and their lack of continuity. In which case I guess I was only half-zoomed. :)

BeanMeScot
02-24-2009, 09:41 PM
That was last week's story. What on Earth does it have to do with this week's story?!?

:eek: :D :D

jones07
02-25-2009, 07:40 AM
I just hope we don't ultimately get a finale that leaves us hanging out there, ala the Sopranos.
Yeah, I'm getting that Sopranos hanging the fans out to dry feeling in my gut. Hope I'm wrong :(

Question: When did food started to be in so short supply that civilians are going hungry.....did I miss something?

doom1701
02-25-2009, 08:41 AM
Yeah, I'm getting that Sopranos hanging the fans out to dry feeling in my gut. Hope I'm wrong :(

Question: When did food started to be in so short supply that civilians are going hungry.....did I miss something?

Food has been tight for quite a while; all they've got to eat anyway is algea products.

But it sounds like you're saying that someone should get started on whipping up some algea based onion rings? (didn't watch the Sopranos, but isn't that how everybody complained it ended?)

mitchb2
02-25-2009, 08:58 AM
Boring.

I liked this show so much more when there were space battles.


Yeah, I watched it on the treadmill, and I was counting the minutes.

DevdogAZ
02-25-2009, 12:46 PM
Speaking of food being tight, why are there so many starving civilians on Galactica? Obviously, the families of the crew would likely be on board, although from what we've seen, very few of the crew have families. But why are there so many civilians on board? Baltar's harem? Dogsville? It just doesn't make sense that there would be these pockets of civilians living on a military vessel, when there are plenty of civilian vessels out there to house them.

jones07
02-25-2009, 12:59 PM
(didn't watch the Sopranos, but isn't that how everybody complained it ended?)

Yes, almost everyone felt letdown by Sopranos ending.........or non-ending

jones07
02-25-2009, 01:06 PM
Speaking of food being tight, why are there so many starving civilians on Galactica? Obviously, the families of the crew would likely be on board, although from what we've seen, very few of the crew have families. But why are there so many civilians on board? Baltar's harem? Dogsville? It just doesn't make sense that there would be these pockets of civilians living on a military vessel, when there are plenty of civilian vessels out there to house them.

Yes, The Galactica is beginning to have that Babylon 5 below decks 3rd world feel.