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urwathrtz
02-19-2009, 12:07 PM
THANK YOU!!!!
You kick @$$.
adamfb
02-19-2009, 12:15 PM
I'll also chime in with my thanks. I recently started using it, and it works as advertised. I'm continually amazed by the ingenuity on this board and the generosity of those talented people that share their work. Thanks again.
ZeoTiVo
02-19-2009, 12:38 PM
I use it all the time to serve up ripped DVDs to my TiVo DVRs and thus any TV in the house.
Thank you indeed :up::up::up:
mr.unnatural
02-19-2009, 01:19 PM
You are assuming that it was developed by someone here at this forum. I believe it was developed elsewhere since the thread that supports it is located in different forum that will remain unamed thanks to certain restrictions imposed upon the rank and file.;)
AZ_Tivo
02-19-2009, 01:36 PM
You are assuming that it was developed by someone here at this forum. I believe it was developed elsewhere since the thread that supports it is located in different forum that will remain unamed thanks to certain restrictions imposed upon the rank and file.;)
It was developed by someone on this forum. They are regular in the "TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo" forum. Now there are two or three different forks. Don't know the latest on the status.
But yes, I have been a pyTivo user for a while and do appreciate their work. So add a big thanks from me as well. :)
gonzotek
02-19-2009, 02:47 PM
You are assuming that it was developed by someone here at this forum. I believe it was developed elsewhere since the thread that supports it is located in different forum that will remain unamed thanks to certain restrictions imposed upon the rank and file.;)It was started by the user armooo (here is his first post on the pytivo topic (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=328459)). He has been mostly inactive since april of 2008. His site still hosts the pytivo wiki (http://pytivo.armooo.net/). Now several other developers continue to maintain and improve the code. Most development discussion takes place now at http://pytivo.krkeegan.com, which is the location of the pytivo discussion forums. Krkeegan is/was another developer, and he has also been inactive for some time now. Currently active developers include wmcbrine, wgw, and rdian06. Several other people participate in pytivo support and develop related utilities, such as MasterCephus and dlfl. Everyone I've mentioned has the same username at tivocommunity and pytivo.krkeegan.com
To the best of my knowledge, there is no reason any restriction should be in effect with regard to pytivo, its forum, or its developers. It doesn't remove drm from tivo files nor does it enable theft of service from TiVo, Inc, nor (to the best of my knowledge) does discussing it break any forum rules.
mr.unnatural
02-20-2009, 07:37 AM
It was started by the user armooo (here is his first post on the pytivo topic (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=328459)). He has been mostly inactive since april of 2008. His site still hosts the pytivo wiki (http://pytivo.armooo.net/). Now several other developers continue to maintain and improve the code. Most development discussion takes place now at http://pytivo.krkeegan.com, which is the location of the pytivo discussion forums. Krkeegan is/was another developer, and he has also been inactive for some time now. Currently active developers include wmcbrine, wgw, and rdian06. Several other people participate in pytivo support and develop related utilities, such as MasterCephus and dlfl. Everyone I've mentioned has the same username at tivocommunity and pytivo.krkeegan.com
To the best of my knowledge, there is no reason any restriction should be in effect with regard to pytivo, its forum, or its developers. It doesn't remove drm from tivo files nor does it enable theft of service from TiVo, Inc, nor (to the best of my knowledge) does discussing it break any forum rules.
I'm aware of the developer because he also hosts the support thread at the forum I mentioned. And no, it's not the pyTivo forum. Those of you that have been around a while know which forum I'm referring to.;) FWIW, armoo's first thread regarding pyTivo in these forums was posted about 1/2-hour prior to his initial posting at the "other" forum, so it appears that he did indeed post here first on the topic.
wmcbrine
02-20-2009, 08:21 AM
There is negligible discussion of pyTivo at DDB, and armooo only ever made four posts there. I wonder if you're not confusing it with tivoserver?
SpiritualPoet
02-20-2009, 08:41 AM
What is pyTiVo? Where does one get it? What does it cost? What is it for?
gonzotek
02-20-2009, 08:56 AM
There is negligible discussion of pyTivo at DDB, and armooo only ever made four posts there. I wonder if you're not confusing it with tivoserver?That was my thought as well.
What is pyTiVo? Where does one get it? What does it cost? What is it for?It's a piece of software that runs on a pc (Mac, Win, Linux, etc) that will serve videos in many different formats to a S2 or S3 TiVo (except DirecTiVos). You can get it at the pytivo wiki (http://pytivo.armooo.net/). It's free software, you can download and run it for free, as well as examine and modify the source code, if that's your kind of thing. It's used to take videos you may have downloaded (such as podcasts) or recorded with a digital camcorder to the TiVo's Now Playing List.
bschuler2007
02-20-2009, 10:24 AM
For the record, if it wasn't for PYTIVO.. I wouldn't have TIVO at all in my house. I seldom watch what they dare call TV these days.. but I use my TIVOs all the time thanks to Pytivo.
Thanks pytivo! If it wasn't for the guys who made this great app.. I wouldn't even own a TV (maybe a HTPC/TV combo)
ncsercs
02-20-2009, 11:13 AM
I have a D-Link DNS-323 NAS that I use to view content on a PS3.
Is there any way I can load and use pyTiVo on it and if so, how?
Thanks!
gonzotek
02-20-2009, 12:10 PM
I have a D-Link DNS-323 NAS that I use to view content on a PS3.
Is there any way I can load and use pyTiVo on it and if so, how?
Thanks!
A number of people have managed to get it running on NAS devices, although I don't have any personal experience with them. There's documentation here:
http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Installing_pyTivo_on_Linkstation_Live
for the buffalo linkstation. I don't know if it will be of any use with the D-Link. Also try searching the pytivo forums, and if you don't find anything, ask there.
CuriousMark
02-20-2009, 01:01 PM
I have a D-Link DNS-323 NAS that I use to view content on a PS3.
Is there any way I can load and use pyTiVo on it and if so, how?
Thanks!
So far there is very little on the DNS-323 page at NAS Central (http://d-link.nas-central.org/wiki/Category:DNS-323) but it is an ARM box, so perhaps several of the ARM related pages in the buffalo section could be adapted. There also looks to be a fairly active D-Link Forum (http://forum.dsmg600.info/f6-DNS-323-Custom-Firmware.html) that is linked from the DNS-323 wiki page linked above.
Check out NA9D's how-to (http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Installing_pyTivo_on_Linkstation_Live) for specifics on installing pyTivo on a Linkstation Live Version 2 which is an ARM based box, but there are some differences between it and your NAS that would need to be checked carefully. For instance, you will probably have to find how-to's on opening your box and getting it set up to use the Itsy Package Manager if it doesn't do those things already.
CuriousMark
02-20-2009, 01:06 PM
Thanks to armoo, wgw, wmcbride, krkeegan, dlfl, mastercephus and all the other contributors to the development of pyTivo. You have all done wonderful work.
mr.unnatural
02-20-2009, 01:43 PM
There is negligible discussion of pyTivo at DDB, and armooo only ever made four posts there. I wonder if you're not confusing it with tivoserver?
No, I was referring to pyTivo. Apparently it never garnered much interest at DDB, hence the limited number of posts by armoo. Personally, I never saw the need to upload anything to a Tivo. That's what my HTPC is for.
windracer
02-20-2009, 05:06 PM
If you want to watch a nice overview of pyTivo, check out the (very) last episode (http://dl.tv/2009/02/dltv_ep_267_guerilla_style_1.php) of DL.TV.
audioscience
02-20-2009, 05:57 PM
If you want to watch a nice overview of pyTivo, check out the (very) last episode (http://dl.tv/2009/02/dltv_ep_267_guerilla_style_1.php) of DL.TV.
Thanks for the video, but man are those guys hard to watch.
Example #1 of why non-TV people should not try and do TV (or podcasting for that matter).
pyTivo looks cool though.
windracer
02-20-2009, 06:17 PM
Off-topic, but DL.TV used to be a lot better. I guess that's why they are now on indefinite hiatus.
Enrique
02-21-2009, 07:11 AM
If you want to watch a nice overview of pyTivo, check out the (very) last episode (http://dl.tv/2009/02/dltv_ep_267_guerilla_style_1.php) of DL.TV.I've never heard it call (Pie) Tivo. I always called it P-Y Tivo.
urwathrtz
02-21-2009, 07:28 AM
Off-topic, but DL.TV used to be a lot better. I guess that's why they are now on indefinite hiatus.
Yeah, seemed like the were trying a bit to hard to come up with stuff to talk about. Ugg...another show with Lloyd Case!
windracer
02-21-2009, 07:48 AM
I've never heard it call (Pie) Tivo. I always called it P-Y Tivo.
Funny, I call it pie-TiVo since the "py" is for python.
Enrique
02-21-2009, 07:58 AM
Funny, I call it pie-TiVo since the "py" is for python.See I never made that connection. I still like P-y Tivo, pie-TiVo just sounds odd.:p;):)
txporter
02-21-2009, 09:17 AM
It's pie-tivo. Here is the link to the forum (http://pytivo.krkeegan.com/). You will see they use the mathematical symbol in front of tivo for the name.
Jason
heySkippy
02-21-2009, 05:34 PM
THANK YOU!!!!
You kick @$$.
Add my thanks overall and the PyTiVoX version specifically. Great stuff!
Resist
02-21-2009, 07:11 PM
What is pyTiVo? Where does one get it? What does it cost? What is it for?
I would like to know this as well.
MickeS
02-21-2009, 07:20 PM
Thanks from me too. :) I use wmcbrines version of it every day. Thanks man!
windracer
02-21-2009, 10:00 PM
What is pyTiVo? Where does one get it? What does it cost? What is it for?
I would like to know this as well.
It's free software that lets you transfer all kinds of video to your TiVo. Start here (http://pytivo.armooo.net/) to learn about it.
Resist
02-22-2009, 03:05 AM
Start here (http://pytivo.armooo.net/) to learn about it.I've looked over the site but still don't get the purpose of it. Why would I need to use it? I already can get YouTube video on Tivo, Netflix and more, so what is so special about this software that I would need it?
moonscape
02-22-2009, 03:38 AM
I've looked over the site but still don't get the purpose of it. Why would I need to use it? I already can get YouTube video on Tivo, Netflix and more, so what is so special about this software that I would need it?
not everyone has a need/desire to send video from their computer to their tivo in various formats. i do, but that's me. i transfer *.avi etc files all the time.
if you've never had the desire, and still can't think of an application, then probably pytivo isn't for you.
steve614
02-22-2009, 03:39 AM
PyTivo is just an alternative to using TivoDesktop Plus to transfer (non-supported *) video from your PC to your Tivo.
The difference is pyTivo is free while TivoDesktop Plus is not.
*The free version of TivoDesktop only supports transferring .tivo files or compatible mpeg-2 files.
Pepito
02-22-2009, 03:58 AM
Looks interesting.
Now the 60 million dollar question is does pyTiVo work with the Australian HD version of Tivo? :cool:
wmcbrine
02-22-2009, 06:09 AM
The difference is pyTivo is free while TivoDesktop Plus is not.That's far from the only difference:
- Open source -- hack away! :D
- Runs the same on Windows, Mac, and (most importantly) Linux.
- Can be run as a service, or start-and-stop.
- Can be run by non-Administrators.
- Can create multiple shares of each type, with the names of your choice.
- Supports more file types (although TD is improving).
- Supports adding metadata to any file type, just with plain text.
- Photos and Music perform better than TD.
- Photos smaller than the screen get scaled up (TD only scales down).
and more! Not sold in stores! Call today!
fred2
02-22-2009, 10:02 AM
That's far from the only difference:
- Open source -- hack away! :D
- Runs the same on Windows, Mac, and (most importantly) Linux.
- Can be run as a service, or start-and-stop.
- Can be run by non-Administrators.
- Can create multiple shares of each type, with the names of your choice.
- Supports more file types (although TD is improving).
- Supports adding metadata to any file type, just with plain text.
- Photos and Music perform better than TD.
- Photos smaller than the screen get scaled up (TD only scales down).
and more! Not sold in stores! Call today!
Are BATTERIES included? (I've been using it for what seems like years).
jkalnin
02-22-2009, 10:30 AM
pyTivo streams the file so you can watch it immediately. That is the best part!
windracer
02-22-2009, 10:34 AM
I've looked over the site but still don't get the purpose of it. Why would I need to use it? I already can get YouTube video on Tivo, Netflix and more, so what is so special about this software that I would need it?
Example: I have all of my DVDs and home movies saved in MP4 format on my Linux media server. Running pyTiVo on that box, I can watch any movie on any TiVo in the house whenever I want, without having to dig around for the DVD or tape.
Resist
02-22-2009, 10:37 AM
I already have Tivo Desktop Plus, so what would PYtivo do for me over Desktop?
tivoupgrade
02-22-2009, 10:37 AM
Take a look at this article (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=410430) in the TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo area of the forums, it should give you some perspective and instructions on using pyTiVo and TiVoDesktop.
Lou
wmcbrine
02-22-2009, 11:04 AM
I already have Tivo Desktop Plus, so what would PYtivo do for me over Desktop?Answered several posts above yours.
And by the way, no one's trying to sell you on it. If you don't want to use it, don't. We really don't care.
For me, the most important reasons I use it are that it's open source, runs on Linux, and isn't TiVo Desktop, which is one of my all-time least favorite pieces of software. Other people have other reasons.
windracer
02-22-2009, 11:19 AM
I already have Tivo Desktop Plus, so what would PYtivo do for me over Desktop?
You're really living up to your username. ;)
More formats: pyTivo is based on ffmpeg so any format that ffmpeg can handle you can send to your TiVo. TD Plus gives you Windows Media (WMV), QuickTime (MOV), MPEG-4, MPEG-2, and DivX/Xvid. Sure, that covers the basics, but there're a lot of formats (like, say, Matroska (MKV) or Flash) it won't work with.
The other plus (no pun intended) for me is that it runs on Linux so I don't need TiVo Desktop bogging down my Windows machine or have it running all the time.
rainwater
02-22-2009, 11:35 AM
The other plus (no pun intended) for me is that it runs on Linux so I don't need TiVo Desktop bogging down my Windows machine or have it running all the time.
TiVo Desktop is a huge memory and cpu hog. Also, it does a terrible job transferring large files (most fail for me). pyTiVo just works and the video quality of non mpeg-2 files seems much better with pyTivo than it does with TiVo Desktop.
bschuler2007
02-22-2009, 12:11 PM
Hi Resist,
The main purpose for me is to serve Music Videos and Movies that I downloaded to my PC to my Tivo. Think always on MTV videos and Movies on-demand.
Sure, you can watch youtube without Pytivo. But navigation and search is a hassle.. plus youtube is starting to now block ALOT of videos. Nothing worse than watching a blocked video (why they don't just freakin remove the videos to save us the hassle, I have no idea). Also, youtube terms of use limit it highly to be able to serve anything more than the homemade dog video, etc. and this without any backing music.
So all in all.. if you watch youtube videos that conform to youtube standards... then you do not need pytivo. If you watch any videos that are popular on youtube.. you most likely will soon need pytivo, as you will soon need to get those videos from another source and then to Tivo.
Resist
02-22-2009, 08:50 PM
Okay so it sounds like pyTivo is faster and covers more formats. If it is easier to use than Desktop then maybe I will like it better. Wish I found it before I paid the $25 for Desktop Plus.
UPDATE: I just looked over the pyTivo site and got confused as heck. I wish someone put together a How To video on working with this program.
classicsat
02-23-2009, 09:38 AM
Looks interesting.
Now the 60 million dollar question is does pyTiVo work with the Australian HD version of Tivo? :cool:
It could, if the The TiVo supported network video features at all, if not the same way as American TiVos.
txporter
02-23-2009, 01:50 PM
Okay so it sounds like pyTivo is faster and covers more formats. If it is easier to use than Desktop then maybe I will like it better. Wish I found it before I paid the $25 for Desktop Plus.
UPDATE: I just looked over the pyTivo site and got confused as heck. I wish someone put together a How To video on working with this program.
Did you go to the forums? They have put together windows installers now and they are pretty easy to work with. Here is the link (http://pytivo.krkeegan.com/updated-windows-installer-betas-t512.html)to the windows installer thread. There isn't a whole lot to do but modify the conf file to point to your video folder when using the installer and make sure that you have Python 2.5 or 2.6.
Jason
Joe01880
02-23-2009, 02:15 PM
That was my thought as well.
It's a piece of software that runs on a pc (Mac, Win, Linux, etc) that will serve videos in many different formats to a S2 or S3 TiVo (except DirecTiVos). You can get it at the pytivo wiki (http://pytivo.armooo.net/). It's free software, you can download and run it for free, as well as examine and modify the source code, if that's your kind of thing. It's used to take videos you may have downloaded (such as podcasts) or recorded with a digital camcorder to the TiVo's Now Playing List.
Does it work with TiVo HD and Windows XP?
txporter
02-23-2009, 02:34 PM
Yes, works great with XP and TivoHD. Ran like that for over a year. Using Vista now (new system).
Jason
urwathrtz
02-23-2009, 02:42 PM
Also pyTiVo has never crashed my computer.
My camera records in AVI. If I wanted to transfer it so I could watch it on the TV, I had to put it on the desktop from the camera, open Roxio 10, convert it into a mpeg and save it, then transfer it. Now it just goes from the camera to the MY VIDEOS folder on the PC, that's it.
I also get a lot of use out of www.keepvid.com
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