American Idol "Results Show" 2/18/09 *spoilers*

[Kamakzie]

I'm thinking Alexis Grace and Danny Gokey. Not sure who will get 3rd.

Tatiana reminds me of Soleil Moon Frye.

Casey is not in the top 12, no shock there.

Stephen is not in the top 12. Not surprised there either.

Alexis has made the top 12.

Ricky and Jackie. Ricky is not in the top 12. Jackie is not in the top 12 either. Another no brainer.

Anoop and Michael. Michael is in the top 12. Anoop is not. Not sure I agree with that one. Seacrest says that out of 20 million votes Michael and Anoop were 20,000 votes apart.

Michael Johns and Carly Smithson performing.

Ann Marie, Brent & Stevie are not in the top 12. No shock.

Its between Danny and Tatiana for the final spot. Tatiana looks like she's about to spew, and of course they make them wait till after the break. :rolleyes:

The final spot goes to Danny... Wow what a shock! Tatiana is not a happy camper.

[DevdogAZ]

I'm glad to see Michael Sarver make it. I think he's got a lot of promise, but of course, that's all because of the editing during the auditions and Hollywood rounds. They could have featured anyone and made them look good (or bad, like they did with Tatiana).

Danny is almost certainly the other one moving one.

[Kamakzie]

Danny is almost certainly the other one moving one.

Oh yeah I'd be shocked if he wasn't.

[Odds Bodkins]

She is bat poop crazy. That said, Ryan is taking it a little too far with his snipes.

[Lori]

How shocked could Tatiana be? Did she not check DialIdol this morning? ;)

[Lori]

On another note, I am sad to lose dimple boy. I'm a sucker for dimples. :(

[latrobe7]

The final spot goes to Danny... Wow what a shock! Tatiana is not a happy camper.
Cool, I can start watching this show again. As soon as I they put her through to the 36, I turned it off and vowed not to watch until I heard she was gone.

[ewilts]

Cool, I can start watching this show again. As soon as I they put her through to the 36, I turned it off and vowed not to watch until I heard she was gone.
There is the wild card show this year to pick the last 3 of the final 12. She could come back :-)

[gossamer88]

Don't forget the Wild Card spots. She could be back.

I loved how there were no tears as she was "crying". Call me crazy but I find her entertaining.

[latrobe7]

There is the wild card show this year to pick the last 3 of the final 12. She could come back :-)

Well, if she does, the show will have to limp along without me. :p

[uncdrew]

Damn, I was a bit shocked Michael made it over Anoop.

Weak group of chicks in that batch. I almost wonder if the three guys were the top three vote getters...

[Kamakzie]

This season's new rules are still confusing me a bit. Next week they do this again with another group of 12 and weed out all but 3. The next week they do the following and get another 3 for a total of 9? Then 3 wild cards make 12? Then they do 1 elimination per week after that?

[Neenahboy]

This season's new rules are still confusing me a bit. Next week they do this again with another group of 12 and weed out all but 3. The next week they do the following and get another 3 for a total of 9? Then 3 wild cards make 12? Then they do 1 elimination per week after that?

Yes.

[Neenahboy]

I'm happy with the picks, save for Anoop being denied. In related news, one of the wild card spots was just sewn up. He'll absolutely be back.

[thudtrain]

This season's new rules are still confusing me a bit. Next week they do this again with another group of 12 and weed out all but 3. The next week they do the following and get another 3 for a total of 9? Then 3 wild cards make 12? Then they do 1 elimination per week after that?

That's it exactly, from what I understand.

[tivoboyjr]

I would have preferred to have seen anoop make it over Michael. Maybe noop dogg will be a wildcard.

And hopefully Tatiana del Loco is gone forever.

[bigpuma]

I really hope Tatiana doesn't get picked for the wild card. Unfortunately she is almost guaranteed to be there.

[LoadStar]

This season's new rules are still confusing me a bit. Next week they do this again with another group of 12 and weed out all but 3. The next week they do the following and get another 3 for a total of 9? Then 3 wild cards make 12? Then they do 1 elimination per week after that?

Close, but not quite.

From each of the groups of 12, the top male and female and the "runner up" male OR female will immediately become finalists. (i.e. total of 9 contestants)

Then, there is a special "wild card" performance show on March 5 (Thursday). This show will include the second-runner-up from each of the groups of 12, plus a number of other contestants the judges want to bring back for a second look. From this group, three more contestants will be selected by the judges (not by phone/text voting) as wild-cards.

Then, the final 12 contestants perform beginning on March 10, with 1 contestant being eliminated each week.

[wooh]

Simon looked very unhappy at the end with the results. Wonder why... I was actually thinking Tatiana had a chance. Between people that like her for whatever reason, and VFTW, I wouldn't have been surprised.

[Ment]

Simon looked very unhappy at the end with the results. Wonder why... I was actually thinking Tatiana had a chance. Between people that like her for whatever reason, and VFTW, I wouldn't have been surprised.

He was wondering how Michael made it thru, not understanding the Nascar fan demo voting bloc.

[DevdogAZ]

Close, but not quite.

From each of the groups of 12, the top male and female and the "runner up" male OR female will immediately become finalists. (i.e. total of 9 contestants)

Then, there is a special "wild card" performance show on March 5 (Thursday). This show will include the second-runner-up from each of the groups of 12, plus a number of other contestants the judges want to bring back for a second look. From this group, three more contestants will be selected by the judges (not by phone/text voting) as wild-cards.

Then, the final 12 contestants perform beginning on March 10, with 1 contestant being eliminated each week.
I'm not doubting you, but this is the first I've seen anyone claim that the second runner-up from each group of 12 would automatically make the wild card show. Where did you see that? Can you provide a link?

[LoadStar]

I'm not doubting you, but this is the first I've seen anyone claim that the second runner-up from each group of 12 would automatically make the wild card show. Where did you see that? Can you provide a link?

http://realitytvworld.com/news/fox-releases-american-idol-schedule-confirms-format-changes-8158.php
Then on Thursday, March 5, Fox will air a special "Wild Card" performance episode that will feature each semifinalist group's highest remaining votegetter who didn't already get to automatically advance to the finals will get a second chance to perform along with several additional semifinalists that the judges will select.

"They [will be able to] make that fourth show up to probably about nine or ten people, we haven't quite decided yet," Warwick explained.

[Cearbhaill]

I really hope Tatiana doesn't get picked for the wild card. Unfortunately she is almost guaranteed to be there.
Of course.

You guys realize she is orchestrating this entire gig, right?
They tried to play her all performance night and she wouldn't bite because she was playing them.

The way to get through Hollywood is to get noticed- you can be very good, or very beautiful, or have a very moving story, or be very crazy. It doesn't matter as long as you are "very".
And this year with the Big Brother House portions of our entertainment bonanza enhanced drama gets double points, so I am 99% certain she will go in as a wild card.
Crazy like a fox.

[TonyTheTiger]

I think we've had proof positive that the producers have chosen their favorites prior to the Hollywood round and, at least until it goes to public voting, control virtually every aspect of who goes through and who doesn't.

For example, 'fro boy (Stephen?) forgot his words at the keyboard in Hollywood and was still picked to go on, despite everyone being told by Simon "forget the words and you're out".

Oh, and HOW could they put "Norman" through over Danny's friend? Ridiculous!

Danny is my early favorite so far. I predict at least top three for him.

[JLucPicard]

Getting bat-poop crazy Tatiana into a 'Big Brother' house-type situation may make for good TV (though I REALLY hope we don't have too much of that kind of footage hosing up the performance shows!), but I have a feeling they would NOT be doing themselves any favors by getting her far enough to make the touring group. Talk about too much drama on the road!

[Einselen]

He was wondering how Michael made it thru, not understanding the Nascar fan demo voting bloc.

Didn't Simon say Michael was a good guy, he hopes he makes it through as he deserved a break?

http://realitytvworld.com/news/fox-releases-american-idol-schedule-confirms-format-changes-8158.php

Interesting article because the release from American Idol says nothing about the top runner ups, just that the judges will pick who performs on the Wild Card show.

On Thursday, March 5 (8/7c), American Idol presents a special "Wild Card" episode featuring the judges' favorite remaining contestants. After each of the contestants performs, the judges will select the three final contestants who will round out the Top 12.

http://www.americanidol.com/news/view/?pid=1500

[Einselen]

Oh, and HOW could they put "Norman" through over Danny's friend? Ridiculous!

Again it comes down to depending on how far you make it is if you can audition again. If they put Jamar through to the Top 36 he could not audition again but because he was cut he can. The judges did it in the best interest of Jamar as they thought he would have a better shot in later years (maybe mature more as well not having to go against his best friend Danny or the blind guy Scott who will have a good fan following and earn the pathos votes).

[timckelley]

Tatiana really looked broken up at the end; it made me feel sorry for her.

[cl8855]

I am annoyed at Michael making it in, he was quite horrible, and that song is terrible.
He was better in the earlier rounds and terrible tonight.

Anoop or even Braddy should have been in over him. I expect to see both of them in the wild card show...

[That Don Guy]

Tatiana really looked broken up at the end; it made me feel sorry for her.
Notice that they never mentioned the wild cards once during the show - in fact, I'm pretty sure Ryan said "We have to say goodbye" to a contestant at least once. (In fact, I don't remember him ever saying that they had to include at least one male and one female - as far as Joe Lunchpail and Sally Soapopera (who don't read press releases or go to the website) are concerned. the top three got through, although you'll notice Ryan never used the words "top three" either (it was always something like "you're in the final 12").)

As for Tatiana, if she doesn't get in as a wildcard, she would have been better off not advancing - remember, once you're on a live show, you can't audition for future seasons.

-- Don

[Einselen]

Notice that they never mentioned the wild cards once during the show - in fact, I'm pretty sure Ryan said "We have to say goodbye" to a contestant at least once. (In fact, I don't remember him ever saying that they had to include at least one male and one female - as far as Joe Lunchpail and Sally Soapopera (who don't read press releases or go to the website) are concerned. the top three got through, although you'll notice Ryan never used the words "top three" either (it was always something like "you're in the final 12").)

As for Tatiana, if she doesn't get in as a wildcard, she would have been better off not advancing - remember, once you're on a live show, you can't audition for future seasons.

-- Don

There were a few times which Ryan slipped up and said that the contestant was going home. I also noticed they didn't say who the Top Male was and for Alexis it wasn't said she was the Top Female, just like you said that she was in the 12.

[stlarenas]

Tuesdays show was the first one I watched all season. And since I was watching it with my husband who had already watched it, we only watched the performances - skipped over all of the interviews and backstories.

When it was over I turned to my husband and said "the cute little blonde, the guy at the end with the glasses, and that Tatianna girl are leaps and bounds better than the rest and are the only ones that deserve to go through..."

He groaned at my Tatianna comment - and since I haven't kept up with all of the drama, I had no idea why - she sang that song well. Her performance was just downright better than the others.

I realize that this show about much more than how well they sing - but it is interesting to see how much the drama has an effect on people.

I wouldn't be surprised if Simon and the other judges were a little disappointed she wasn't put through - she CAN sing and the drama apparently makes for good TV.

[Cainebj]

I am annoyed at Michael making it in, he was quite horrible, and that song is terrible. He was better in the earlier rounds and terrible tonight.

Anoop or even Braddy should have been in over him. I expect to see both of them in the wild card show...

+ a gazillion

There is just no accounting for the taste of middle america. And just as Michael is about to get kicked off he will sing "Proud to be an American" and stick around 3 more weeks. ech.

[aindik]

There were a few times which Ryan slipped up and said that the contestant was going home.

Yeah, I think that was just him saying that almost as a reflex.

I also noticed they didn't say who the Top Male was and for Alexis it wasn't said she was the Top Female, just like you said that she was in the 12.

That part is nothing new. They never say anything more than they need to say. When they announce the "bottom 3," that tells you something real - these people are the three lowest. When they send one of the three back to the couch for safety, they never say that person was third-lowest, as opposed to second-lowest. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. And they never ever say who had the most votes in any given week (other than the last week, obviously).

Michael getting in over Anoop is the flaw in the voting model I keep talking about ad nauseum. Voters vote for people they like. People who buy music buy music they like, not music made by people they like. Not that Anoop was so great last week, but over all he's better than Michael.

Since Seacrest said only 20,000 votes separated Anoop and Michael, I'd be willing to bet that Anoop had more votes than Alexis did.

Anyone notice Danny didn't want to have any part of making any physical contact with Tatiana before the announcement was made? Had his hands behind his back and kept them there.

Then, Tatiana couldn't applaud for Danny, while everyone else did. All about me me me. Poor Stevie had to comfort her, as if Stevie and everyone else on the couch wasn't also going home (pending wild cards, of course).

I found myself wondering who a bunch of next week's players are. I didn't recognize a good number of them.

[cl8855]

+ a gazillion

There is just no accounting for the taste of middle america. And just as Michael is about to get kicked off he will sing "Proud to be an American" and stick around 3 more weeks. ech.


HA! Too funny (and true)! Now granted he's better than Christy Lee Cook, but so is my 5 year old...

[pjenkins]

Michael getting in over Anoop is the flaw in the voting model I keep talking about ad nauseum. Voters vote for people they like. People who buy music buy music they like, not music made by people they like. Not that Anoop was so great last week, but over all he's better than Michael.

I disagree, Michael is a better country singer than Anoop, and that demographic likes his singing better. It's a very subjective area, and just because you believe Anoop is a better singer in certain areas than Michael, doesn't make it the case for many others.

[uncdrew]

I'm happy with the picks, save for Anoop being denied. In related news, one of the wild card spots was just sewn up. He'll absolutely be back.

I think that too. Simon (and his group of three yes men judges) accurately pegged that Anoop is amazingly marketable. Something about his boyish charm, handsome features, Indian heritage, carefree personality.

I too think he's a judges choice at this point.

[uncdrew]

Of course.

You guys realize she is orchestrating this entire gig, right?
They tried to play her all performance night and she wouldn't bite because she was playing them.

The way to get through Hollywood is to get noticed- you can be very good, or very beautiful, or have a very moving story, or be very crazy. It doesn't matter as long as you are "very".
And this year with the Big Brother House portions of our entertainment bonanza enhanced drama gets double points, so I am 99% certain she will go in as a wild card.
Crazy like a fox.

Yes, it's an act.

But the play is over.


She was drug along enough for our viewing pleasure, but she's not top 12 worthy and the judges won't put her through. That's my take.

[uncdrew]

+ a gazillion

There is just no accounting for the taste of middle america. And just as Michael is about to get kicked off he will sing "Proud to be an American" and stick around 3 more weeks. ech.

:D

Too funny. Funny 'cause it's true. :(

[scooterboy]

As for Tatiana, if she doesn't get in as a wildcard, she would have been better off not advancing - remember, once you're on a live show, you can't audition for future seasons.

Works for me!

[uncdrew]

Since Seacrest said only 20,000 votes separated Anoop and Michael, I'd be willing to bet that Anoop had more votes than Alexis did.

Yup.

Maybe in a future year they'll take the top 3 vote getters, regardless of gender.

[3D]

Of course.

You guys realize she is orchestrating this entire gig, right?
They tried to play her all performance night and she wouldn't bite because she was playing them.

The way to get through Hollywood is to get noticed- you can be very good, or very beautiful, or have a very moving story, or be very crazy. It doesn't matter as long as you are "very".
And this year with the Big Brother House portions of our entertainment bonanza enhanced drama gets double points, so I am 99% certain she will go in as a wild card.
Crazy like a fox.

This would have been a better strategy under the old rules, when only the bottom two guys/girls didn't advance from week to week during the semi-finals. With her singing being better than expected coupled with the vote for the worst backing, she probably could have made it to the finals under the previous format.

[timckelley]

What is the window of opportunity for voting, by the way? I often watch this show several hours after it's over, so I have a feeling I can't cast a vote by then.

[retrodog]

Notice that they never mentioned the wild cards once during the show - in fact, I'm pretty sure Ryan said "We have to say goodbye" to a contestant at least once. (In fact, I don't remember him ever saying that they had to include at least one male and one female - as far as Joe Lunchpail and Sally Soapopera (who don't read press releases or go to the website) are concerned. the top three got through, although you'll notice Ryan never used the words "top three" either (it was always something like "you're in the final 12").)

As for Tatiana, if she doesn't get in as a wildcard, she would have been better off not advancing - remember, once you're on a live show, you can't audition for future seasons.

-- Don

Because it is not necessarily the top 3 that got through. If they top three were all guys or gals, the third one would have been pushed out of his (or her) spot by the top one of the other sex.

What you get each week is:

1. Top guy
2. Top gal
3. Second place guy or gal with the most votes

[Jeeters]

I am annoyed at Michael making it in, he was quite horrible, and that song is terrible.
He was better in the earlier rounds and terrible tonight.People don't always vote based just on that most recent performance. Perhaps people liked/rememembered his previous performances so want him to stick around for another chance.

[DevdogAZ]

As for Tatiana, if she doesn't get in as a wildcard, she would have been better off not advancing - remember, once you're on a live show, you can't audition for future seasons.

-- Don
What's the cutoff age for auditioning these days? Because I read somewhere that Tatiana is 28 right now, and I seem to recall that 28 is about the top end of the acceptable age range, so it's entirely possible this was her final year of eligibility, regardless of whether she made it to the live shows or not.

[Cearbhaill]

What is the window of opportunity for voting, by the way? I often watch this show several hours after it's over, so I have a feeling I can't cast a vote by then.
Don't vote, trust me.

Once I vote I get emotionally involved and that only leads to stress.
Staying halfway impartial is all that makes this clusterpoop of a show tolerable.
It is comedy and light entertainment only.

[aindik]

What is the window of opportunity for voting, by the way? I often watch this show several hours after it's over, so I have a feeling I can't cast a vote by then.

To be technical about it, the window is two hours after it's done airing in the time zone associated with the area code on your phone.

Which was always my theory on how Hawaiian contestant Jasmine Trias did so well however many years ago that was. Hawaii had its own voting window all to itself.

[timckelley]

To be technical about it, the window is two hours after it's done airing in the time zone associated with the area code on your phone.Then I don't watch the show soon enough to vote.

[Cainebj]

well, i am not going to post any spoilers, but i would have been far more shocked about Michael getting through if i had not checked out dialidol yesterday afternoon...

it is generally surprisingly accurate, so if you really want to test the theory of top female vs. the 3rd highest vote getter (Alexis vs. Michael) - go over there and click on the predictions link...

[thudtrain]

Am I missing something? When did Michael Sarver get the country label applied to him? He doesn't sound country, and I don't remember him singing a single country song. He's been singing pop songs.

[tivoboyjr]

Am I missing something? When did Michael Sarver get the country label applied to him? He doesn't sound country, and I don't remember him singing a single country song. He's been singing pop songs.

You're right. I was thinking about this as I was watching him last night. Even if he hates country music, he needs to become the "country guy" because that is where his votes will come from and if he is to have a career in the music business, that's where it will be.

[bruinfan]

tatiana is on the wrong reality show... she needs to go on Biggest Loser... she'd be pretty hawt if she lost 30#.

[timckelley]

She might not be the thinnest woman there, but I have no complaints for Tatiana's figure.

[DevdogAZ]

well, i am not going to post any spoilers, but i would have been far more shocked about Michael getting through if i had not checked out dialidol yesterday afternoon...

it is generally surprisingly accurate, so if you really want to test the theory of top female vs. the 3rd highest vote getter (Alexis vs. Michael) - go over there and click on the predictions link...
I don't think there's any reason to worry about spoilers at this point. The show has aired and the results have been discussed in this thread.

I looked at that page: http://www.dialidol.com/asp/predictions/predictions.asp and I have a question for those of you that frequent that site. Do we know if the "DialIdol score" is uniform across the board for men and women? Because if so, and their predictions are as accurate as they claim to be, 5 of the 6 men received more votes than all but one of the women. According to their scores (if I'm interpreting them correctly), the voting order went like this:

1. Danny Gokey
2. Michael Sarver
3. Alexis Grace
4. Anoop Desai
5. Ricky Braddy
6. Brent Keith
7. Ann Marie Boscovich
8. Tatiana Del Toro
9. Stephen Fowler
10. Casey Carlson
11. Jackie Thon
12. Stevie Wright

[MikeekiM]

Any thoughts on Michael Johns and Carly's performance? I skipped over most of it since I was time shift viewing late at night and really could'nt afford the time to watch it...

[uncdrew]

Alexis snuck between Anoop and BigBoy? They were only 20,000 apart...

[timckelley]

Any thoughts on Michael Johns and Carly's performance? I skipped over most of it since I was time shift viewing late at night and really could'nt afford the time to watch it...

I wasn't impressed, but if I had to rank them, I'd say that Michael did a better job than did Carly.

[NJChris]

Any thoughts on Michael Johns and Carly's performance? I skipped over most of it since I was time shift viewing late at night and really could'nt afford the time to watch it... I thought Carly had improved a lot since her season.

[tivoboyjr]

Any thoughts on Michael Johns and Carly's performance? I skipped over most of it since I was time shift viewing late at night and really could'nt afford the time to watch it...

It was good, but it was just a repeat of their performance from last season's finale. That was the best I've heard either of them sound, which I suppose is why they repeated it.

[DevdogAZ]

Alexis snuck between Anoop and BigBoy? They were only 20,000 apart...
No idea if it's accurate. Just reporting the order based on the DialIdol score.

[That Don Guy]

Because it is not necessarily the top 3 that got through. If they top three were all guys or gals, the third one would have been pushed out of his (or her) spot by the top one of the other sex.

What you get each week is:

1. Top guy
2. Top gal
3. Second place guy or gal with the most votes
I know that.
You know that.
People who have read the way it works on, say, the AI website know that.
That leaves millions of viewers who don't know that, and aren't told otherwise (just as they're never told that Simon breaks the 2-2 ties in the city auditions - or, for that matter, that only 120 or so people out of the over 10,000 that usually attend a city's auditions ever get to sing in front of the judges in the first place). This was my point.

(And for those of you who noted that they never say who gets the most votes, I think the reason is, they're afraid of "bandwagon jumpers" - people will hear that singer X is the most popular and think, "Well, my favorite was eliminated, so I'll vote for Singer X now.")

What's the cutoff age for auditioning these days? Because I read somewhere that Tatiana is 28 right now, and I seem to recall that 28 is about the top end of the acceptable age range, so it's entirely possible this was her final year of eligibility, regardless of whether she made it to the live shows or not.
Tatiana is only 23.

(It's strange that the age limit for American Idol is 28, but for So You Think You Can Dance?, it's 30 - then again, I think the minimum age for SYTYCD is two years older than for AI (18 vs 16).)

-- Don

[DevdogAZ]

Tatiana is only 23.

(It's strange that the age limit for American Idol is 28, but for So You Think You Can Dance?, it's 30 - then again, I think the minimum age for SYTYCD is two years older than for AI (18 vs 16).)

-- Don
According to this article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090219/ap_en_tv/tv_american_idol_18), she's 28.

LOS ANGELES – Tatiana Del Toro had something else to cry about. The emotional 28-year-old crooner from San Juan, Puerto Rico, was one of nine "American Idol" semifinalists sent packing Wednesday. Del Toro, whom judge Simon Cowell called a "drama queen" after her performance Tuesday, bawled after she wasn't selected to continue in the "Fox" singing competition.

[bigpuma]

I don't think there's any reason to worry about spoilers at this point. The show has aired and the results have been discussed in this thread.

I looked at that page: http://www.dialidol.com/asp/predictions/predictions.asp and I have a question for those of you that frequent that site. Do we know if the "DialIdol score" is uniform across the board for men and women? Because if so, and their predictions are as accurate as they claim to be, 5 of the 6 men received more votes than all but one of the women. According to their scores (if I'm interpreting them correctly), the voting order went like this:

1. Danny Gokey
2. Michael Sarver
3. Alexis Grace
4. Anoop Desai
5. Ricky Braddy
6. Brent Keith
7. Ann Marie Boscovich
8. Tatiana Del Toro
9. Stephen Fowler
10. Casey Carlson
11. Jackie Thon
12. Stevie Wright

They have a fairly wide margin of error since they base their "numbers" on busy signals. There numbers are not accurate enough to correctly identify the exact order.

[DevdogAZ]

They have a fairly wide margin of error since they base their "numbers" on busy signals. There numbers are not accurate enough to correctly identify the exact order.
I realize this. I wasn't posting that to claim that was the actual order. I was simply posting it to show what their statistical models showed.

[That Don Guy]

According to this article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090219/ap_en_tv/tv_american_idol_18), she's 28.

The official site (http://www.americanidol.com/top_36/) says she's 24. Brent Keith and Danny Gokey are the only 28-year-olds listed.

-- Don

[Cainebj]

tatiana is on the wrong reality show... she needs to go on Biggest Loser... she'd be pretty hawt if she lost 30#.

i would say that more about Michael Sarver than Tatiana. dude - lay off the cheeseburgers.

and while we are on image - how many pairs of glasses DOES Danny Gokey own and anyone want to speculate when and if he will start wearing contacts? :)

[jay_man2]

i would say that more about Michael Sarver than Tatiana. dude - lay off the cheeseburgers.

and while we are on image - how many pairs of glasses DOES Danny Gokey own and anyone want to speculate when and if he will start wearing contacts? :)So far it looks like one pair with interchangeable temple covers. :p

I was surprised that Tat didn't get more of a teeth whitening job before the big night. :D

[timckelley]

I personally am so much happier now that I've stopped wearing contacts and only wear glasses now. (I made this transition just a few years ago.)

[timckelley]

I really didn't like the opening comments that Ryan Seacrest started out the show with. Basically trying to get the judges to name names of which singers are no good. The singers are all there excited awaiting the results, and this just seems rude to them to basically start choosing a subset of them to insult right off the bat as the results show is starting.

[retrodog]

I know that.
You know that.
People who have read the way it works on, say, the AI website know that.
That leaves millions of viewers who don't know that, and aren't told otherwise (just as they're never told that Simon breaks the 2-2 ties in the city auditions - or, for that matter, that only 120 or so people out of the over 10,000 that usually attend a city's auditions ever get to sing in front of the judges in the first place). This was my point.

(And for those of you who noted that they never say who gets the most votes, I think the reason is, they're afraid of "bandwagon jumpers" - people will hear that singer X is the most popular and think, "Well, my favorite was eliminated, so I'll vote for Singer X now.")


Tatiana is only 23.

(It's strange that the age limit for American Idol is 28, but for So You Think You Can Dance?, it's 30 - then again, I think the minimum age for SYTYCD is two years older than for AI (18 vs 16).)

-- Don

Well then explain yourself better next time. :p

If I were Puerto Rican... I would have killed Tatiana off after the first audition.

But since I'm not, I don't care. :D

In any case, regardless of all her insane actions, she has an absolutely beautiful voice. But the only time I can actually stand her is when she's singing.

[brott]

and while we are on image - how many pairs of glasses DOES Danny Gokey own and anyone want to speculate when and if he will start wearing contacts? :)

No Way! Those glasses ARE Danny's image .. He'll have them (all kinds of them) til the end.

[jay_man2]

No Way! Those glasses ARE Danny's image .. He'll have them (all kinds of them) til the end.Watch out. Elton John might sue for trademark infringement. :p

[Einselen]

No Way! Those glasses ARE Danny's image .. He'll have them (all kinds of them) til the end.

I agree. He would look too different with contacts in.

Anyone else think just maybe Tatiana will be back for Wildcard but not picked?

Braddy I think got screwed over by the editing, Paula said it herself that she wishes he was shown more during auditions and Hollywood week. Next week's singers I think are the same, I was like who are most these people...

Also looks like Jessica Langseth (one picked over Frankie and Simon said to Frankie she would not win it and Jessica has no chance either) had a DUI a few years ago.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/14/top-36-american-idol-only-one-ex-con/

[DevdogAZ]

Anyone else think just maybe Tatiana will be back for Wildcard but not picked?
I guarantee Tatiana will be back for wild card week, but I'm not so certain she won't be picked by the judges. In fact, if I were betting at this point, I'd say she'll end up in the top 12.

[MiakioAmy]

No Way! Those glasses ARE Danny's image .. He'll have them (all kinds of them) til the end.

I like the glasses, too. But he was not wearing them in the promo photo that they showed at the end of his intro.

[ewilts]

tatiana is on the wrong reality show... she needs to go on Biggest Loser... she'd be pretty hawt if she lost 30#.
My wife thought she did actually lose a ton of weight between the original auditions and the live show.

[ewilts]

Any thoughts on Michael Johns and Carly's performance? I skipped over most of it since I was time shift viewing late at night and really could'nt afford the time to watch it...
You're lucky. It was absolutey friggin' horrible. Carly proved she can't sing solo and is worse in a duet.

[3D]

Watch out. Elton John might sue for trademark infringement. :p

Instead of calling him Robert Downey Junior Junior, let's change his name to Elton Downey Johnior. :D

[Magister]

I really didn't like the opening comments that Ryan Seacrest started out the show with. Basically trying to get the judges to name names of which singers are no good. The singers are all there excited awaiting the results, and this just seems rude to them to basically start choosing a subset of them to insult right off the bat as the results show is starting.

Actually, I would like to have heard Paula try to be honest for once and give a real opinion.

I would like to have heard the guesses from the judges and then seen how they stacked up against the real results.

[DevdogAZ]

Actually, I would like to have heard Paula try to be honest for once and give a real opinion.

I would like to have heard the guesses from the judges and then seen how they stacked up against the real results.
But does anyone really believe that the judges don't know the real results before the results show starts? I'd be shocked if Simon didn't, at a minimum. That's kind of stupid to be asking them to predict the results when it's incredibly likely that they already know the results.

[That Don Guy]

I guarantee Tatiana will be back for wild card week, but I'm not so certain she won't be picked by the judges. In fact, if I were betting at this point, I'd say she'll end up in the top 12.
I don't think wild cards will be mentioned on more than one show (Thursday, March 5), although it's possible that they will list who will be performing on wild card night on the previous show (where they select numbers 7-9 of the final 12).

(Speaking of which, do you think they'll mention Joanna Pacitti at all during the third "top 12" shows, or just pretend that Felicia had been selected for the top 36 all along - in which case, somebody had better be paying close attention if they interview her or her family to make sure they don't blurt it out?)

-- Don

[KyleLC]

But does anyone really believe that the judges don't know the real results before the results show starts?What would be the purpose of telling them before the show? I doubt they tell them.

[DevdogAZ]

I don't think wild cards will be mentioned on more than one show (Thursday, March 5), although it's possible that they will list who will be performing on wild card night on the previous show (where they select numbers 7-9 of the final 12).
I'm not sure how this is a response to what I wrote. I don't think it matters how they announce the wild cards. I'm simply saying that I'd put up good money that Tatiana will be one of the wild card performers, and I'd say there's a better than even chance that she'll actually be selected.
(Speaking of which, do you think they'll mention Joanna Pacitti at all during the third "top 12" shows, or just pretend that Felicia had been selected for the top 36 all along - in which case, somebody had better be paying close attention if they interview her or her family to make sure they don't blurt it out?)

-- Don
What is there to "blurt out?" It's not like the Joanna/Felicia situation is a secret. It's just not something they want to dwell on.
What would be the purpose of telling them before the show? I doubt they tell them.
You really think Simon sits there at the results show waiting to know the results just like the rest of the viewers, when the information is available beforehand? I'd be genuinely shocked if that were the case.

[super dave]

You're lucky. It was absolutey friggin' horrible. Carly proved she can't sing solo and is worse in a duet.

She doesn't sing, she screams and gyrates in a very pornographic style.

[timckelley]

Also, was it my imagination, or does Carly now have less of an irish accent than she did when she was a contestent?

[thudtrain]

Also, was it my imagination, or does Carly now have less of an irish accent than she did when she was a contestent?

Hmm. She sounded pretty much exactly how I remember from last season. The accent was definitely there.

[jay_man2]

Hmm. She sounded pretty much exactly how I remember from last season. The accent was definitely there.+1

[KyleLC]

Also, was it my imagination, or does Carly now have less of an irish accent than she did when she was a contestent?I thought it sounded less noticeable, too -- but I just figured it was because she didn't get to talk very much. However it's very possible she's lost some of it while being away from Ireland.

[KyleLC]

You really think Simon sits there at the results show waiting to know the results just like the rest of the viewers, when the information is available beforehand? I'd be genuinely shocked if that were the case.Hm. I just don't see why that would be shocking. I guess it's just because that's the way I am. If I were in his shoes, I would not want to know beforehand. It's less fun that way.

[timckelley]

The accent was definitely there.I agree with that. It just seemed like less thick of an accent than before.

[TiVoCrastinator]

and while we are on image - how many pairs of glasses DOES Danny Gokey own and anyone want to speculate when and if he will start wearing contacts? :)

So far it looks like one pair with interchangeable temple covers. :p

No Way! Those glasses ARE Danny's image .. He'll have them (all kinds of them) til the end.

Watch out. Elton John might sue for trademark infringement. :p

I thought those glasses looked really stupid. I have some goggles in my woodworking shop that look better :p

[mattack]

When do they start the "music videos" (i.e. really product placement)? For some reason, I get a kick out of those, and they're one time to carefully go through the commercials, since that's when they air.

[Einselen]

When do they start the "music videos" (i.e. really product placement)? For some reason, I get a kick out of those, and they're one time to carefully go through the commercials, since that's when they air.

IIRC Top 12, so in a few weeks.

[That Don Guy]

I don't think wild cards will be mentioned on more than one show (Thursday, March 5), although it's possible that they will list who will be performing on wild card night on the previous show (where they select numbers 7-9 of the final 12).
I'm not sure how this is a response to what I wrote.
You said "wild card week".

(Speaking of which, do you think they'll mention Joanna Pacitti at all during the third "top 12" shows, or just pretend that Felicia had been selected for the top 36 all along - in which case, somebody had better be paying close attention if they interview her or her family to make sure they don't blurt it out?)
What is there to "blurt out?" It's not like the Joanna/Felicia situation is a secret. It's just not something they want to dwell on.
Actually, it is still a "secret" to most of the people that watch it.

I can see one of three things happening:

They mention that Joanna was disqualified (and either leave it at that or give some generic reason like "because of an undisclosed relationship with the production company");

They just say, "Joanna had to leave the show," as if she had a personal problem of some sort;

They just introduce Felicia without bothering to "remind" the viewers that she had been "sent home" three weeks earlier; this also gets around any potential problem of having to explain that they didn't choose her in front of the singoff losers as she was in a singoff that was edited out of the show.


-- Don

[Kamakzie]

Judgment Call: Paula Abdul Disses DioGuardi
By Claudine Zap
Wed, February 25, 2009, 11:45 am PST

Four is definitely a crowd. That's the pronouncement of Paula Abdul, who would like to keep the number of judges on "American Idol," now in its eighth season, to the cozy, Kara DioGuardi-less, three.

It's not that Paula Abdul doesn't like judge number four. According to OK! Magazine, she and the newest addition get along just fine, but "…We tried four judges before and it doesn't work." Abdul's reasoning: It interrupts the show's flow with four people weighing in instead of the more efficient three. Translation: Paula Abdul gets less talk time.

Besides Paula Abdul, Randy Jackson and the infamously snotty Simon Cowell have been a winning combination for the reality show as they dole out pronouncements while whittling down the contestants in search of the best songster. Viewers also get to weigh in by phone voting.

Maybe fans should be asked to vote on the judges, too. While Paula may prefer to be the queen bee of "Idol" judging, online searches for both divas remain high. Abdul does have an edge when it comes to "hot" and "QVC jewelry."

Good thing Abdul's working on side projects. She says her contract is up after this season, and hinted she may not return.

http://tv.yahoo.com/american-idol/show/34934/buzzmeter
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Bye Paula!

[DevdogAZ]

She "hinted" that she may not return? As if it's going to be her decision. :rolleyes: Hopefully they don't renew her. What a trainwreck she is.

[Cainebj]

More reality show drama re: Joanna Pacitti (if anyone cares...)

Apparently she is dating Mark Ballas from Dancing With the Stars and has been for several months...