1.5TB Internal Drives

[neogenix]

So I've been reading about 1.5tb Drives, but nothing that says that anyone's actually used them... Amazon has them at $129 (without sales tax - woot!) :

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-1-5TB-32MB-Drive-ST31500341AS/dp/B00066IJPQ/ref=pd_bbs_8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1232855799&sr=8-8

So, has anyone actually used them ? I mean, 240+ Hrs of HD would be rather sweeeeet...

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[bkdtv]

The drive upgrade sticky (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=370784) has information on the subject.

Basically, you can install 1.5TB drive, but the TiVo will only see ~1.1TB of it.

[Adam1115]

No, they don't work right with the current tools available.

Stick with a 1 TB.

[neogenix]

The drive upgrade sticky (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=370784) has information on the subject.

Basically, you can install 1.5TB drive, but the TiVo will only see ~1.1TB of it.

Quite a few other posts did mention that you could put a 1.5TB in the eSATA, but who knows. I'll stick with a 1TB.

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[ciper]

There is a specific version of WinMFS that will allow you to use a 1.5tb internal drive. Unfortunately you only get about 1200 out of it but at least it functions.

[bkdtv]

There is a specific version of WinMFS that will allow you to use a 1.5tb internal drive. Unfortunately you only get about 1200 out of it but at least it functions.Are you sure the 1200 comment wasn't in reference to the original 160GB + the external?

[ciper]

I'm referring to an internal stock drive layout with a ~1000GB partition 15.

I'd assume the version of WinMFS I mention would be able to use the entire 1.5tb for an external drive but I have not read for sure.

[scoombs]

No single volume can currently be greater than 1,258.89GB but as was stated, current tools are unable to deal with individual hard drives greater than 1TB.

[drey]

Also keep in mind that 1.5TB Seagate's are pretty loud, not sure they're the best choice for DVR. Unless, of course, you're sitting 20 feet away.. :)

[lessd]

No single volume can currently be greater than 1,258.89GB but as was stated, current tools are unable to deal with individual hard drives greater than 1TB.

9.3f (from MFSLive) was just released that will deal with more than a 1Tb drive.

[bkdtv]

9.3f (from MFSLive) was just released that will deal with more than a 1Tb drive.That option is only for TiVos with a hacked PROM. The combined limit of 2.2TB (2.0TiB) still remains. The individual drive limit is ~1.2TB, but you can only achieve that with RAID. Without a RAID, you cannot take a 1.5TB drive and use 1.2TB of it, because MFSLive and WinMFS provide no means to do that.

The latest version of WinMFS has two choices: restrict capacity to 1.1TB (1.0TiB) for use without hacked PROMs, or


do not restrict capacity for TiVos with hacked PROMs.

[Adam1115]

That option is only for TiVos with a hacked PROM. The combined limit of 2.2TB (2.0TiB) still remains. The individual drive limit is ~1.2TB, but you can only achieve that with RAID. Without a RAID, you cannot take a 1.5TB drive and use 1.2TB of it, because MFSLive and WinMFS provide no means to do that.

The latest version of WinMFS has two choices: restrict capacity to 1.1TB (1.0TiB) for use without hacked PROMs, or


do not restrict capacity for TiVos with hacked PROMs.

The individual PARTITION limit is 1.2 TB.

I see no reason a tool couldn't be written to create two 1 TB partitions on a single 2 TB drive, but you wouldn't be able to add an external drive...

[bkdtv]

The individual PARTITION limit is 1.2 TB.

I see no reason a tool couldn't be written to create two 1 TB partitions on a single 2 TB drive, but you wouldn't be able to add an external drive...That's what I thought, but spike told me today that the individual partition limit is 1.1 TB (1.0 TiB).

WinMFS 9.3f &g has a feature that let you limit a partition to 1 TiB.
It asks to expand fully or limit to 1 TiB after MFSCopy or during mfsadd.

Tivo HDXL is the same way.

Absolute Max of 2 TiB combined "A" and "B".
- Tivoapp limit on MFS64, MFS32 limit
- 2 TiB Apple partition Map limit.

Single partition can't be bigger than 1 TiB.
- Linux Kernel lImit

The latest version of WinMFS also has the option to "expand fully," which would use the full 1.5 TB of a 1.5 TB drive. Of course, such a partition won't work in a TiVo without a PROM mod.

[Adam1115]

The latest version of WinMFS also has the option to "expand fully," which would use the full 1.5 TB of a 1.5 TB drive. Of course, such a partition won't work in a TiVo without a PROM mod.

Why?

Why can't you have 1 1.0 TB Partition and 1 500 GB Partition assuming you don't plan to add an external drive?

Currently the tools expand the 250 Gig default partition to 1.5 TB, which won't work... but if it only expanded it to the limit then allowed you to ADD a second partition, it should work fine.

[bkdtv]

Why?

Why can't you have 1 1.0 TB Partition and 1 500 GB Partition assuming you don't plan to add an external drive?

Currently the tools expand the 250 Gig default partition to 1.5 TB, which won't work... but if it only expanded it to the limit then allowed you to ADD a second partition, it should work fine.I don't disagree with you.

Hopefully, that is something that spike will look at for a future version of WinMFS. More will desire this capability as 2.0+TB drives hit the market.

[ciper]

The latest version of WinMFS has two choices:[list=1] restrict capacity to 1.1TB (1.0TiB) for use without hacked PROMs,

My understanding of the option is that it only restricts partition 15 size to 1.1TB. Meaning if you had a 160gb drive to start you end wup with 1.26TB on the 1.5TB drive.

In other words not a drive size limit but rather a partition size limit

[ciper]

The latest version of WinMFS has two choices:[list=1] restrict capacity to 1.1TB (1.0TiB) for use without hacked PROMs,

My understanding of the option is that it only restricts partition 15 size to 1.1TB. Meaning if you had a 160gb drive to start you end up with 1.26TB on the 1.5TB drive.

In other words not a drive size limit but rather a partition size limit

If you have a TiVoHD XL and upgraded the internal drive to a 1.5tb unit it can be expanded fully with any of the tools including mfstools because partition 15 will only be ~500gb


I see no reason a tool couldn't be written to create two 1 TB partitions on a single 2 TB drive, but you wouldn't be able to add an external drive...
Problem is that the drive is already full. Each drive can only have a max of 16 partitions and in stock form 13 are used. Each MFS region has to be a pair of partitions so essentially we can only add one extra 1tb chunk without editing the stock layout.

http://mfslive.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1108
i made a post in the suggestions forum on MFSLive and this was a response

It's not that simple to re-expand part 11 & 13.
Expanding apple partition is simple but after that, one would have to adjust MFS under the hood. That involves redoing partition 10 and 12, making adjustments to every MFS Object, recreating bitmaps.

You might as well start fresh by creating a new MFS at that point. (Something like fsmake then repopulating MFS Objects)
Then again, do we know enough about MFS to write our own fsmake?