Is my Tivo database corrupted?

[PhilG]

I've got a VERY odd problem on my Tivo which I am suspecting may be down to a corrupted database

I have a program in the To Do list, but when I select "view upcoming episodes" although I see most of the episodes in the series I do NOT see the one that's sitting in the To Do list waiting to be recorded!

When I view by channel though it IS there and shown as to be recorded

This is more than a little worrying

Phil G

[RichardJH]

What programme is it. It may be a listing error rather than database corruption. I can check on my Tivos providing the programme is listed on Virgin cable or Freeview

[PhilG]

It's a Mens Biathlon on Thursday on Eurosport (Sky channel 410)

It's in the channel listing OK, but does not show up in it's own series list!

[RichardJH]

It's a Mens Biathlon on Thursday on Eurosport (Sky channel 410)

It's in the channel listing OK, but does not show up in it's own series list!

I receive Eurosport on Virgin CH 521 and although the schedule looks identical to the Eurosport website listing for Sky 410 All my listings show as World Cup Biathlon whereas the Sky listing seems to have it as either biathlon or live biathlon.

On my listing all upcoming programmes show up on Tivo

[PhilG]

Tivoweb also shows me the same oddities, so I can paste them here

Here's what I have

In To Do, it looks like THIS:

Date Time Channel Programme Episode Mins
Tue 13th Jan 21:00 FIVE CSI: Crime Scene Investigation For Warrick 60
Tue 13th Jan 22:00 FIVE CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Ending Happy 60
Wed 14th Jan 16:45 EURGB World Cup Biathlon Women's Relay 90
Thu 15th Jan 17:00 EURGB World Cup Biathlon Men's Relay 75
Thu 15th Jan 21:00 MORE4 ER Another Thursday at County 60
Fri 16th Jan 13:30 EURGB World Cup Biathlon Women's Sprint 90
Sun 18th Jan 17:30 EURGB World Cup Biathlon Men's Pursuit 30
Tue 20th Jan 17:15 EURGB Figure Skating European Championship: Pairs Short Programme 190
Tue 20th Jan 22:00 FIVE CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Leapin' Lizards 60
Wed 21st Jan 13:15 EURGB Figure Skating European Championship: Men Short Programme 105
Wed 21st Jan 17:15 EURGB Figure Skating European Championship: Pairs Free Programme 185
Thu 22nd Jan 13:15 EURGB World Cup Biathlon Women's Sprint 90
Thu 22nd Jan 15:30 EURGB Figure Skating European Championship: Original Dance 90
Thu 22nd Jan 18:15 EURGB Figure Skating European Championship: Men Free Programme 160
Thu 22nd Jan 21:00 MORE4 Manual: ER The Book of Abby 60
Thu 22nd Jan 22:00 LIVING1 Manual: CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Iced 60
Thu 22nd Jan 23:00 LIVING1 Grey's Anatomy Dream a Little Dream of Me 60
Fri 23rd Jan 13:15 EURGB World Cup Biathlon Men's Sprint 90
Fri 23rd Jan 14:45 EURGB Figure Skating European Championship: Women Short Programme 135
Sat 24th Jan 14:30 EURGB Figure Skating European Championship: Ladies Free Programme 60
Sat 24th Jan 16:15 EURGB World Cup Biathlon Women's Pursuit 45
Sun 25th Jan 13:00 EURGB World Cup Biathlon Men's Mass Start 60
Sun 25th Jan 14:00 EURGB Figure Skating European Championship: Exhibition 120


Notice the Mens Relay on the 15th?

Well, if I click on that SPECIFIC showing, I see

World Cup Biathlon
Episode Title Men's Relay
Episode Description The men's relay IBU World Cup event from Ruhpolding, Germany.
Episode Number
Duration 1:15
Original Air Date Thu 15th Jan 2009
Genres Biathlon, Sports Event
Type Series
Channel 410 EURGB
Showing Date Thu 15th Jan 17:00
Expiration Date
Deletion Date
Cancel Date Mon 12th Jan 22:40
Cancel Reason Program Source Modified
Error String Source no longer requests recording
Quality Basic
Selection Type By Name
State To Do
Size 909 MB (estimated)

Actions
Cancel Recording
Cancel - No Confirmation
Edit Season Pass



Which is OK

BUT, If I click on the series instead of the "episode", I see

Upcoming Showings
Episode Num Orig.Air Date Channel Date Time Mins
Women's Relay Wed 14th Jan 2009 EURGB Wed 14th Jan 16:45 90
Women's Relay Wed 14th Jan 2009 EURGB Wed 14th Jan 22:45 60
Women's Relay Wed 14th Jan 2009 EURGB Thu 15th Jan 08:15 45
Women's Sprint Fri 16th Jan 2009 EURGB Fri 16th Jan 13:30 90
Men's Pursuit Sun 18th Jan 2009 EURGB Sun 18th Jan 17:30 30
Women's Sprint Thu 22nd Jan 2009 EURGB Thu 22nd Jan 13:15 90
Women's Sprint Thu 22nd Jan 2009 EURGB Thu 22nd Jan 17:15 60
Men's Sprint Fri 23rd Jan 2009 EURGB Fri 23rd Jan 13:15 90
Men's Sprint Fri 23rd Jan 2009 EURGB Fri 23rd Jan 17:15 75
Women's Pursuit Sat 24th Jan 2009 EURGB Sat 24th Jan 16:15 45
Men's Mass Start Sun 25th Jan 2009 EURGB Sun 25th Jan 13:00 60


and the Mens Relay is NOT listed at all

Lastly, if I go to channel 410 and look at the listings for the 15th, I get

410 EURGB - Thu 15th Jan
<< Wed 14th Jan Fri 16th Jan >>
Time Series Episode
00:30 Teleshopping UNKNOWN
02:00 Teleshopping UNKNOWN
07:30 Rally Raid Dakar: Stage 11
08:15 World Cup Biathlon Women's Relay
09:00 WTA Tennis Sydney: Semi-finals
11:00 Rally Raid Dakar: Stage 11
11:45 euroCRASH! UNKNOWN
12:00 World Cup Skeleton UNKNOWN
12:30 International Masters Snooker Day 4
13:30 International Masters Snooker Quarter-finals
16:00 World Cup Ski Jumping HS 134: Qualifying Round
17:00 World Cup Biathlon Men's Relay
18:15 Eurogoals Flash UNKNOWN
18:30 Rally Raid Dakar: Stage 12
18:45 International Masters Snooker Quarter-finals
22:00 Rally Raid Dakar: Stage 12
22:45 World Cup Biathlon Men's Relay
23:45 Rally Raid Dakar: Stage 12



The Mens Relay is definately there

It just seems that it is NOT linked to the series somehow

Also, despite adding it as a manual recording last night, it had vanished from To Do this morning (and looking at

Cancel Date Mon 12th Jan 22:40
Cancel Reason Program Source Modified
Error String Source no longer requests recording


I'm sort of expecting it to disappear again tonight :(

Lastly, there were a couple of Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy episodes in To Do yesterday - today they're gone (and I can't remember which channel they were on):(

I've checked my SMART analysis of the drive and I am not seeing any drive errors (luckily)

Is there an easy way to rebuild the database WITHOUT losing already recorded shows and all my season passes/wishlists?

Thanks

[PhilG]

OK - something else, and this is MUCH more worrying

Whatever I search for in Tivoweb, I never get any hits

eg, doing a Keyword OR a Title Keyword search for "simpsons" finds nothing :eek:

As If :)

And NONE of my wishlists find ANYTHING AT ALL (and some of them always do)

Help is needed URGENTLY now :mad:

[PhilG]

I'm tempted to do a "Clear Program Database and To Do List", but before I do I want to make sure that this will leave my season passes and wishlists intact (I suspect it won't - I guess they're in the database too)

Or is there something else I can do?

Rats - Just when I have enough other things to do

[RichardJH]

you might want to have a look at this thread http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=336140&highlight=Clear+Program+Database
especially posts 6 & 7. I would be more inclined to trust the Lemon rather than Pete

[PhilG]

you might want to have a look at this thread http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=336140&highlight=Clear+Program+Database
especially posts 6 & 7. I would be more inclined to trust the Lemon rather than Pete

Hmm - I might wait to see what it looks like tomorrow

Of course, this has to happen when I am about to be away for a while :(

[PhilG]

WHAT A CLEVER TIVO:D:D:D:D

I left it alone for a few hours (to busy to try "fixing" it)

and now....

A search for SIMPSONS returns loads of hits
My Hitchikers Guides are back
That odd Mens biathlon now appears as part of the series

Whoo Hoo !!

I wish I knew what had happened though - I really don't like problems that just "go away" (not that I am also pretty happy though)

[RichardJH]

Glad its sorted

[cwaring]

I wish I knew what had happened though - I really don't like problems that just "go away" (not that I am also pretty happy though)
I think it's an 'indexing' thing. It's happened to me before :)

[Cainam]

As the original problem has been sorted (and so I do not feel guilty sending the thread slightly OT), it reminds me of a problem I had the other week which I never got to the bottom of.

I have a season pass for Gladiators (don't laugh!). New episodes are shown on Sky One on Sunday evenings (6pm), and repeated during the week including Monday at 4pm. The final repeat is on Sky One the following Sunday at 10am.

When it came to Episode 2 of the new series, Tivo decided it was not going to record the 6pm episode on 4th Jan, because it conflicted with a film, so fair enough. But it chose instead to record the 10am episode the following week (11th Jan), and not the next available recording on Monday 5th. I assumed this was because other things conflicted on Monday, but I was not recording anything else on Monday 5th. I left it a few days in case of any indexing funnies, and it still wanted to record the one on Sunday 11th.

I checked the episode number and the original air date, and they were definitely the same episode, so I manually told it to record the one on Monday 5th, and it let me, with no conflicts. And it stopped planning to record the one on Sunday 11th.

The only message in the "Recording History" screen was "another showing was available within 28 days" which is very true...but later than the one I wanted!

Anyone got any thoughts, or did the same thing happen to anyone else? As I say I would have understood if there had been conflicts on the Monday, or if the Sunday 10am repeat was on a different channel with a high season pass priority, but same program/same channel I cannot think why it did not want to record the earliest one.

[cwaring]

That would be because the ep on Mon 5th was to be shown on Sky2 while I assume you have a SP for Sky1 ;)

I suggest you use a wishlist as Virgin1 aren't showing any old episodes at the moment :)

[mikerr]

The confusion arises because although a Season Pass is locked to a single channel,
it will actually show episodes accross all channels when you select "view upcoming episodes" from the SP menu.

[Cainam]

Nope, thats not it, they were both definitely on SKy1. Looking at the recording history in TivoWeb I can see


11281

11282

This shows the conflict on the Sun 4th episode - understood
It shows the deleted episode on Mon 5th - the one I recorded manually and then deleted
It shows the repeat on Sun 11th - which it wanted to record, but which is now a duplicate (as I chose to record the one on 5th)

and they are all on Sky 1

Looking at the description of the Sun11th one I can see
11283

WHich I THINK shows that it was cancelled as it recorded an explicit showing, but not exactly sure what "User requested explicit 14248 64800 - Got instead 0(4645650) (4056 MB)(14248 64800)(3600):E:100" means!