Time Warner Tivo DVR?

[TommyV]

Time Warner bought out Comcast in the Dallas area. I assume this means the Comcast Tivo DVR will not be available here?

[Mindflux]

Yeah I'd only count on getting a Sci Atl box now.

[BlackBetty]

Time Warner Cable will be the first company TiVo goes after once they wrap up their infringement lawsuit against Echostar. So a Time Warner TiVo box could be in the cards in the not to distant future.

[SeanTivo]

Time Warner Cable will be the first company TiVo goes after once they wrap up their infringement lawsuit against Echostar. So a Time Warner TiVo box could be in the cards in the not to distant future.

Not too distant future???? Maybe if you're a Time Traveler.

[wimawep]

Time warner uses the dual tuner motorola box as their HD mainstay. This box will not store programming info to non volatile media without a major software rewrite if it is possible at all. This is bad for tivo implementation in many ways. So if tivo does arrive for time warner I predict it will be a baaad version. It's going to be ugly but at least in will have a shrunk video window, HA!

[ajwees41]

Time warner uses the dual tuner motorola box as their HD mainstay. This box will not store programming info to non volatile media without a major software rewrite if it is possible at all. This is bad for tivo implementation in many ways. So if tivo does arrive for time warner I predict it will be a baaad version. It's going to be ugly but at least in will have a shrunk video window, HA!

Explain what you mean that the Motorolas do not store programming info to non volatile memory.

[prlaba]

I'm not sure what wimawep meant either.

If he meant that the Motorola box doesn't store program guide (vs. programming) information in non-volatile memory, that's true but misleading.

Before I had the TiVo service installed on my Comcast DVR, powering off the DVR did indeed erase all of its current program guide information (it had to recreate it once the box was powered on), presumably because the guide information was stored in the DVR's volatile memory. But that's a software design issue, not a hardware restriction with the Motorola box. The Motorola DVR, like all other DVRs, has access to a fairly large non-volatile store: its hard drive.

With the TiVo service installed on the same Motorola box, powering off the DVR does not erase the program guide data, because the TiVo software stores that data on the hard drive.

The same is true for scheduled recordings, wishlists, suggestions, etc. All those "settings" are non-volatile, preserved across power shutdowns.

[ajwees41]

it is possible since that the way cox does it with the motorola boxes

[polcanboy]

also if the box didn't store data on hard drive, it would be quite an impact on network traffic if the tivo guide was to download all programming information every time you turned off your box.

[prlaba]

At least on the Comcast Motorola box, pressing the Power button on the remote does not power off the box; it puts the box in standby mode, which preserves the channel guide and any other volatile data. (The box will still record any scheduled programs at the designated time.)

But if you unplug the box, saved recordings and your scheduled recordings are still preserved but the channel guide is lost and must be recreated.

We're talking about the Comcast box without TiVo here. If the TiVo service is installed, the channel guide information is stored on disk and is preserved even if the box is unplugged.

[ajwees41]

At least on the Comcast Motorola box, pressing the Power button on the remote does not power off the box; it puts the box in standby mode, which preserves the channel guide and any other volatile data. (The box will still record any scheduled programs at the designated time.)

But if you unplug the box, saved recordings and your scheduled recordings are still preserved but the channel guide is lost and must be recreated.

We're talking about the Comcast box without TiVo here. If the TiVo service is installed, the channel guide information is stored on disk and is preserved even if the box is unplugged.

that also how it works on cox with the passport dct, passport echo software. The only times the guide info is lost is power failure or changing boxes.