Chuck 12/15/08 "Chuck vs. the Santa Claus"

[Graymalkin]

Nice episode. Not expecting that ending.

Would Sarah have done what she did if she didn't love Chuck? I don't think so.

[Rob Helmerichs]

Would Sarah have done what she did if she didn't love Chuck? I don't think so.
And that's the tragedy...Chuck only saw her doing it, not why she did it.

[Graymalkin]

There's also the minor matter of Ned still being alive and knowing that Chuck is the Intersect.

[Rob Helmerichs]

There's also the minor matter of Ned still being alive and knowing that Chuck is the Intersect.
I wasn't entirely clear on whether he knew why Chuck was important...

[Mr_Bester]

Nice episode. Not expecting that ending.

Would Sarah have done what she did if she didn't love Chuck? I don't think so.

I saw it coming and was hoping I was wrong. I hate those "missed the most important part of the conversation"" just misses that they use in tv all the time.
The entire ep was great until that point. I think that little trick has been overused and grates on me whenever I see it.

I loved Srgt. Al Powell and Ned Reyerson(sp?).

[Rob Helmerichs]

I loved Srgt. Al Powell and Ned Reyerson(sp?).
And now we know that Chuck takes place in the Die Hard Universe. :D

[Langree]

I saw it coming and was hoping I was wrong. I hate those "missed the most important part of the conversation"" just misses that they use in tv all the time.
The entire ep was great until that point. I think that little trick has been overused and grates on me whenever I see it.

I loved Srgt. Al Powell and Ned Reyerson(sp?).

After last week'sz talk here of the name of the building they "sold" it was even funnier to me.

Especially cool because Powell was the same actor.

[Langree]

Nice episode. Not expecting that ending.

Would Sarah have done what she did if she didn't love Chuck? I don't think so.

I think she would have, priority #1 to both her and Casey is to protect Chuck, or more directly, the intersect.

[Rob Helmerichs]

I think she would have, priority #1 to both her and Casey is to protect Chuck, or more directly, the intersect.
I think she would have protected Chuck by arresting the guy, and letting somebody else worry about his long-term "care."

Her feelings for Chuck led her to murder the guy in cold blood on the chance that he might some day pose a threat. It was really the General's place to assess and deal with that potential threat.

[Graymalkin]

Rob hit it right on the nailhead. She exceeded her orders because she loves Chuck. Unfortunately Chuck doesn't know that. He may be thinking that's standard operating procedure for the CIA. Question is, how long will the writers string this out until he uses his noggin and realizes why she did it? And what his reaction will be when he realizes that she killed in cold blood for his sake?

And will the series last enough for us to see it happen? :eek:

[betts4]

And now we know that Chuck takes place in the Die Hard Universe. :D

I loved the connection with Al and Die hard.

I was thinking briefly of the opening scene of Lethal Weapon when they were running thru the christmas trees.

I am sorry that the writers had her kill the guy and that Chuck saw it. It was not really needed.

And poor Morgan.

[JYoung]

I am sorry that the writers had her kill the guy and that Chuck saw it. It was not really needed.



Well, it does serve to keep Chuck and Sarah apart longer.

And frankly, it's a little surprising that this didn't come up before.

[Peter000]

I saw it coming and was hoping I was wrong. I hate those "missed the most important part of the conversation"" just misses that they use in tv all the time.
The entire ep was great until that point. I think that little trick has been overused and grates on me whenever I see it.


I don't think it would have mattered to Chuck if he had heard the conversation. He still would have condemned killing the guy, advocating a different way of protecting himself somehow.

The last couple of Chucks have been "meh" for me. I hope it gets better after the break.

[Sirius Black]

All this episode needed was an FBI agent named Johnson.

Very funny all around. From the Die Hard musical cues as the store was being "locked down". To the appearance of Al Powell.

Not sure why Anna didn't give some lovin' to Morgan. He was the sacrificial lamb and did a great job at it.

We'll see whether there is any real fallout from Sarah's killing of the criminal (who let's face it was asking to be shot). Chuck may not be able to deal with it.

[TriBruin]

I don't think it would have mattered to Chuck if he had heard the conversation. He still would have condemned killing the guy, advocating a different way of protecting himself somehow.

The last couple of Chucks have been "meh" for me. I hope it gets better after the break.

I actually thought this was one of the best shows of season (and considering how much I like this show, that is saying a lot.)

I loved the Al Powell of the LAPD joke. I was ROTFL and had to explain the joke to my wife. (She still didn't find it that funny.)

I will admit I didn't see the twist with Fulcum coming (though it should have been obvious.) And Chuck's reaction at the end was perfect.

Have I mentioned how much I like this show. :D

[loubob57]

I was thinking briefly of the opening scene of Lethal Weapon when they were running thru the christmas trees.


Me too. I was expecting Casey to show up and start acting crazy. :)

[barbeedoll]

Did anyone else wonder why Ellie wouldn't have (and want to keep) the bracelet her Dad gave her Mom the day she was born?

She said, "It looks good on you" to Sarah there at the end.

Barbeedoll

[Rob Helmerichs]

Did anyone else wonder why Ellie wouldn't have (and want to keep) the bracelet her Dad gave her Mom the day she was born?

She said, "It looks good on you" to Sarah there at the end.
Yeah, definitely more story-driven than logic-driven. It made for a nice moment (Ellie approving of Sarah having it at the exact moment when Chuck is seeing Sarah as a deranged psycho), but doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

[boywaja]

Not sure why Anna didn't give some lovin' to Morgan. He was the sacrificial lamb and did a great job at it.


Anna didn't see Morgan do anything heroic. She turned away to check on Lester who was on the floor. You'd think someone would clue her in, but this is TV after all.

[5thcrewman]

Sgt. Al Powell already discussed from Die Hard 1 & 2

Lt. Mauser: Police Academy 2 & 3

Ned R(h)yerson: Groundhog Day



Nice double cleaveage shot of Anna and Ellie!:p

[MickeS]

I actually thought this was one of the best shows of season (and considering how much I like this show, that is saying a lot.)

Yeah, I liked it a lot too. And I didn't see the Fulcrum thing coming either, I was actually thinking "cool, a stand-alone episode of Chuck with no spy stuff". :)

I loved that Al Powell was there!

[MickeS]

Yeah, definitely more story-driven than logic-driven.

Speaking of this, I really disliked the sloppy writing when Casey and Sarah entered Buy More and confronted Ned Rhyerson for the first time. It was in the locker room and out of sight of everyone else, there was no reason for them not to take out Ned at that point, except it wouldn't have fit the story.

There are many unbelievable things in the show, but usually they fit into the logic of the show's universe, however this did not, and it bugged me. The scene should have been done differently.

[TriBruin]

Speaking of this, I really disliked the sloppy writing when Casey and Sarah entered Buy More and confronted Ned Rhyerson for the first time. It was in the locker room and out of sight of everyone else, there was no reason for them not to take out Ned at that point, except it wouldn't have fit the story.

There are many unbelievable things in the show, but usually they fit into the logic of the show's universe, however this did not, and it bugged me. The scene should have been done differently.

I thought the same thing at first, but the more I thought about it, it seems like Casey and Sarah were not only protecting Chuck, but they needed to maintain their own cover. It would not look good for the "bad guy" to go down with the only three people being Casey, Sarah, and Chuck. More questions are going to be asked. There mission was only to keep Chuck out of harm's way, not necessarily take down Ned. At that point, he was just assumed to be a harmless guy that lost control.

[MickeS]

I thought the same thing at first, but the more I thought about it, it seems like Casey and Sarah were not only protecting Chuck, but they needed to maintain their own cover. It would not look good for the "bad guy" to go down with the only three people being Casey, Sarah, and Chuck. More questions are going to be asked. There mission was only to keep Chuck out of harm's way, not necessarily take down Ned. At that point, he was just assumed to be a harmless guy that lost control.

Right, I know they were protecting their cover, but it could easily have been explained by the three of them attacking Ned in there - it's not like Ned was shown to be some sort of martial arts master.

Just an annoying bit of sloppy writing in an otherwise excellent episode, IMO.

[betts4]

I was wondering for awhile why Casey's fingers were all bandaged. Then he explained it to the general. I felt that Casey was just forgotten about this episode. There were several points where he could have or would have in the past done something other than just make that growly noise and look mad.

I loved Awesome in this episode!

[DevdogAZ]

After last week'sz talk here of the name of the building they "sold" it was even funnier to me.

Especially cool because Powell was the same actor.
I couldn't believe how little the actor has changed. You'd think that 20 years later, especially a guy of his figure, would look a little older.

At the end, after Al and Big Mike had their little reunion, one of them asked if they should go get something to eat. It would have been perfect if Al had reached in his pocket and pulled out a Twinkie.

[JYoung]

Right, I know they were protecting their cover, but it could easily have been explained by the three of them attacking Ned in there - it's not like Ned was shown to be some sort of martial arts master.


Except for the fact he was

[Sirius Black]

Except for the fact he was

I guess MickeS missed the Super Round House Kick he gave... someone whose name escapes me at the moment.

[ClutchBrake]

Except for the fact he was

After the fact though. At that point as far as anyone in the store knew (even Chuck, Sarah and Casey) he was just a bumbling idiot with a gun.

[boywaja]

Right, I know they were protecting their cover, but it could easily have been explained by the three of them attacking Ned in there - it's not like Ned was shown to be some sort of martial arts master.


Except for the fact he was

I guess MickeS missed the Super Round House Kick he gave... someone whose name escapes me at the moment.

At that point in the episode, no one in the store had seen him pull any martial arts moves. He was just a sadsack nut with a gun.

Three people, particularly a big guy like Casey could have taken him out without the risk of blowing their cover. Casey is practically store security/loss prevention in spite of his actual sales job.

[cruton]

The Fulcrum guy said that he knew that John Casey was an NSA agent. Assuming that this guy wasn't acting alone (independent of Fulcrum), isn't Casey's cover blown?

Isn't Fulcrum going to start staking out the Buy More on a full time basis to find out who/what Casey's protecting.

[Craigbob]

Anna was smoking hot in that outfit. Very nice.....

[TriBruin]

Anna was smoking hot period. Very nice.....

FYP.

[mchasal]

We'll see whether there is any real fallout from Sarah's killing of the criminal (who let's face it was asking to be shot). Chuck may not be able to deal with it.

This stuck out a bit for me. Why was it that he was egging her on to shoot him? Since he had the info about the Intersect, you'd think he'd be doing everything possible to stay alive and get that info out. Getting shot there sure didn't achieve that. I guess it was just a device to show clearly why Sarah did shoot him, but it seemed overdone to me, even in the context of the Chuck-verse.

[Rob Helmerichs]

This stuck out a bit for me. Why was it that he was egging her on to shoot him?
Because he knew she wouldn't.

Oops. :D

[mchasal]

Because he knew she wouldn't.

Oops. :D

Yeah, I guess I could see that Rob, but if you have the single most important piece of info to your organization (at least as far as we know) I would think you wouldn't be taking a lot of chances.

Of course, he could have had an implant in his brain that would transmit all of his memories to the Fulcrum Resurrection Ship, um I mean Headquarters, upon his death and that's why he pushed her to shoot him. ;)

[Graymalkin]

You know, if these bad guys would just make cell phone calls as soon as they learn something... they would've taken over the world a long time ago.

But noooo, they have to stop and gloat and monologue. Silly bad guys. :)

[betts4]

At the end, after Al and Big Mike had their little reunion, one of them asked if they should go get something to eat. It would have been perfect if Al had reached in his pocket and pulled out a Twinkie.

There was a scene earlier in the episode where they both were taking a bite of atwinkie. In fact when it was the shot of Al, it had the folcrum/hostage negotiater guy standing next to him and it was almost identical to the shot in Die hard.

[Sirius Black]

But noooo, they have to stop and gloat and monologue. Silly bad guys. :)

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Silly bad guys indeed. Why don't they learn from my mistakes?

[Church AV Guy]

This stuck out a bit for me. Why was it that he was egging her on to shoot him? Since he had the info about the Intersect, you'd think he'd be doing everything possible to stay alive and get that info out. Getting shot there sure didn't achieve that. I guess it was just a device to show clearly why Sarah did shoot him, but it seemed overdone to me, even in the context of the Chuck-verse.
This botherd me too. He was giving her every reason to kill him, for no purpose.

He knows where the intersect is; they both know the Fulcrum has infiltrated the CIA; Fulcrum will use every resource available to get him out; once he is safe, he will tell every Fulcrum agent that Chuck IS the intersect; Chuck's life is over.

From a security point of view, she did the right thing. Personal morality aside, It's hard to argue with the logic. Why he goaded her with the info? I can't imagine.

[Rob Helmerichs]

From a security point of view, she did the right thing.
No, she didn't. She had captured him. The immediate danger had passed. His disposition was above her pay grade.

Think of all the information that the CIA or whoever could have gotten by torturing him before they killed him. It could be argued that she committed treason by depriving us of a valuable intelligence asset. But she was more concerned with protecting Chuck than with protecting America.

If only Chuck knew!

[alpacaboy]

Is it wrong that I just didn't think (from Chuck's POV) that she did something that horrendous? If the pretty blonde agent shoots someone, I'm sure we can trust that she did so with good reason. Though her lying about it later bothered me.

[Church AV Guy]

I see your point about the prisoner as an information asset, but her primary mission is protecting Chuck. Even in custody, he was an unacceptable threat to the intersect. Getting her hands on a Fulcrum agent is a secondary consideration to her primary mission. Do we really know the limitations on her authority to act in the field? They have never been spelled out, exactly, as far as I remember.

At any rate, I think it was a stupid thing for the writers to have done. I keep seeing in my mind, Judi Dench chewing out Daniel Craig over the shooting of the "unarmed civilian." At least she wasn't caught on tape.

[Rob Helmerichs]

I see your point about the prisoner as an information asset, but her primary mission is protecting Chuck. Even in custody, he was an unacceptable threat to the intersect. Getting her hands on a Fulcrum agent is a secondary consideration to her primary mission.
But her primary mission was accomplished. The intersect was safe.

Her mission isn't to find anybody who might ever pose a possible threat to the intersect and murder them. Once he was captured, it was the CIA's job to decide what kind of threat the captive might pose and act accordingly. If they decided he was too dangerous to live, then it's their job to kill him. She went way, way off the reservation; the fact that she got away with it doesn't excuse her act of treason.

If the CIA knew what she had done, they would probably lock her in a tiny room where she would never be heard from again, or more likely put a bullet in her brain.

[MickeS]

Her mission isn't to find anybody who might ever pose a possible threat to the intersect and murder them. Once he was captured, it was the CIA's job to decide what kind of threat the captive might pose and act accordingly. If they decided he was too dangerous to live, then it's their job to kill him. She went way, way off the reservation; the fact that she got away with it doesn't excuse her act of treason.

If the CIA knew what she had done, they would probably lock her in a tiny room where she would never be heard from again, or more likely put a bullet in her brain.

Exactly, and also might I add that it used to be seen as a bad thing in this country to murder an unarmed man when he's surrendering. Maybe that's not the case anymore, but I guess at least Chuck and I still think it is. ;)

[rgr]

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Silly bad guys indeed. Why don't they learn from my mistakes?At least they don't wear capes!

[newsposter]

loved the song playing as the fulcrum guy lays there dead!

boy that asst mgr dude is such a &&&&&. though the added humor he brings is good for the show.

[Regina]

boy that asst mgr dude is such a &&&&&. though the added humor he brings is good for the show.

I LOVE HIM! :rolleyes: Well, I love the actor..Tony Hale...and love to hate his character..."MY 86-year old mother is dying from a rare illness..leukoplakia..."
Leukoplakia means white patches in your mouth and/or down the back of your mouth/throat! Like with strep throat. Hardly fatal! :o

[sushikitten]

What bothered me the most? The car crashing through the front doors - fine. But the next scene shows all the Nerd Herd cars directly in front of the Buy More, making a straight-drive-in impossible. And then at the end, as they are pushing the car back out, it appears the car apparently came crashing straight in and made a left turn to come down the aisle. And isn't the Nerd Herd station directly in front of the front doors? It didn't appear that way at the end.

I could be misremembering the layout for some of it, but it still irked me. :)

[Maui]

People think about this stuff too much.

I loved the episode.

[Topher5000]

The guy who drove the car into BM looked familiar & then it clicked in. He played an alien in Galaxy Quest. Was he the one who's death was avenged by Alan Rickman?

[5thcrewman]

The guy who drove the car into BM looked familiar & then it clicked in. He played an alien in Galaxy Quest. Was he the one who's death was avenged by Alan Rickman?

Huh, I thought that the alien was Sheriff Mars (Enrico Colantoni)

[DevdogAZ]

There was a scene earlier in the episode where they both were taking a bite of atwinkie. In fact when it was the shot of Al, it had the folcrum/hostage negotiater guy standing next to him and it was almost identical to the shot in Die hard.
Ah, thanks for pointing that out. During the early part of the episode, I was playing a game on my phone and only partially paying attention.

[JYoung]

But her primary mission was accomplished. The intersect was safe.

Her mission isn't to find anybody who might ever pose a possible threat to the intersect and murder them. Once he was captured, it was the CIA's job to decide what kind of threat the captive might pose and act accordingly. If they decided he was too dangerous to live, then it's their job to kill him. She went way, way off the reservation; the fact that she got away with it doesn't excuse her act of treason.

If the CIA knew what she had done, they would probably lock her in a tiny room where she would never be heard from again, or more likely put a bullet in her brain.

I dunno, considering that Casey has standing orders to kill Chuck once he becomes irrelevant, Sarah's superiors might approve.

[JYoung]

At that point in the episode, no one in the store had seen him pull any martial arts moves. He was just a sadsack nut with a gun.

Three people, particularly a big guy like Casey could have taken him out without the risk of blowing their cover. Casey is practically store security/loss prevention in spite of his actual sales job.

And yet, Casey was already shot once.

[LoadStar]

The guy who drove the car into BM looked familiar & then it clicked in. He played an alien in Galaxy Quest. Was he the one who's death was avenged by Alan Rickman?

Huh, I thought that the alien was Sheriff Mars (Enrico Colantoni)

No, Enrico Colantoni played the "captain," Mathesar. Jed Rees, who played Ned in this episode, played "Teb" in Galaxy Quest, and survived the movie. (The alien that got killed was "Quellek.")

[Amnesia]

No, Enrico Colantoni played the "captain," Mathesar. Jed Rees, who played Ned in this episode, played "Teb" in Galaxy Quest, and survived the movie. (The alien that got killed was "Quellek.")I hope you had to look that up...

[LoadStar]

I hope you had to look that up...

I knew the first and the last. I had no idea who this particular actor played. (It's a great movie, and I watched it again when it was just on TV the other day.)

[IJustLikeTivo]

Sgt. Al Powell already discussed from Die Hard 1 & 2


Complete with Twinkie! Love the pop culture references in this show.

[IJustLikeTivo]

You know, if these bad guys would just make cell phone calls as soon as they learn something... they would've taken over the world a long time ago.

But noooo, they have to stop and gloat and monologue. Silly bad guys. :)

They learned at the Batman "slow torturous death with time to escape" school of criminal behavior.

[IJustLikeTivo]

No, she didn't. She had captured him. The immediate danger had passed. His disposition was above her pay grade.


You didn't know about the new CIA 00X ratings?

[crowes]

I LOVE HIM! :rolleyes: Well, I love the actor..Tony Hale...and love to hate his character..."MY 86-year old mother is dying from a rare illness..leukoplakia..."
Leukoplakia means white patches in your mouth and/or down the back of your mouth/throat! Like with strep throat. Hardly fatal! :o

You didn't get that this was from the Corey Haim movie "Lucas"?

I love the nod to all of the 80's stuff. It had me laughing right out loud.

[lew]

Sarah told the general that extracting Chuck would require putting Chuck, and his family, in witness protection.

Letting him live would probably do the same thing.

She exceeded her mission.




But her primary mission was accomplished. The intersect was safe.

Her mission isn't to find anybody who might ever pose a possible threat to the intersect and murder them. Once he was captured, it was the CIA's job to decide what kind of threat the captive might pose and act accordingly. If they decided he was too dangerous to live, then it's their job to kill him. She went way, way off the reservation; the fact that she got away with it doesn't excuse her act of treason.

If the CIA knew what she had done, they would probably lock her in a tiny room where she would never be heard from again, or more likely put a bullet in her brain.

[TAsunder]

This was a very sub-standard episode. Chock full of ridiculous plot holes and bad writing, and more importantly, not very funny at all.

Although it is perhaps more absurd to call what Sarah did "treason" or to think that she ruined a chance for them to "torture him for information" unless there would be a crossover between Chuck and 24 in the next episode.

[IndyJones1023]

After last week'sz talk here of the name of the building they "sold" it was even funnier to me.

Especially cool because Powell was the same actor.

Last week I thought it was the Nakamichi Tower, but the Die Hard movie is Nakatomi. Or vice versa. Anyway, I thought they were close, but not the same name last week.

My sons and I had to pause when Al came on. That was great!

[IndyJones1023]

I couldn't believe how little the actor has changed. You'd think that 20 years later, especially a guy of his figure, would look a little older.

Huh? I couldn't believe how much he had ballooned up. I almost didn't recognize him at first, even after he said his name.

[DevdogAZ]

Last week I thought it was the Nakamichi Tower, but the Die Hard movie is Nakatomi. Or vice versa. Anyway, I thought they were close, but not the same name last week.

My sons and I had to pause when Al came on. That was great!
You are right. The name of the building in last weeks ep (Nakamichi Plaza) was slightly different from that of the building in Die Hard. However, it was clearly a nod to the movie, and then having Officer Al Powell in this episode was yet another nod.

[Robin]

I love it when Sarah "assembles her face" before greeting Chuck. This time it was right after the kill. She was looking worried and distraught, paused, shook it off and put on a happy face, and ran up to Chuck.

She does it to protect him, but it makes him think she's totally blown off killing the guy.

[DianaMo]

You didn't get that this was from the Corey Haim movie "Lucas"?

I love the nod to all of the 80's stuff. It had me laughing right out loud.

I recognized that from Lucas too. Of course, since I was in that movie, I've seen it a few more times that most people...

[DreadPirateRob]

People think about this stuff too much.

I loved the episode.

+1, with the exception of no Sarah leer-worthy moments. Although Anna was hot in her elf outfit and that wise a nice ending cleavage shot. But I'm sorry - they have spoiled me far too often, and now I expect a rewind/slo-mo/droolworthy moment involving Sarah every week.

Also, loved the Die Hard nods the past 2 weeks. And I especially loved Big Al and Big Mike being related. Awesomeness.

[scandia101]

People think about this stuff too much.


and confuse the TV show world with reality.

I really doubt that after all this time, Chuck would be as ignorant or naive as he seemed after he watched Sarah shoot the fulcrum guy - even in a TV show world.

[modnar]

Would Sarah have done what she did if she didn't love Chuck? I don't think so.
I'm in the camp of those who think she would have done so either way. Their mission isn't necessarily "on the books" as it is.

[Regina]

You didn't get that this was from the Corey Haim movie "Lucas"?

I love the nod to all of the 80's stuff. It had me laughing right out loud.

No, crowes--:p I am a HUGE pharmacy geek and I don't think I've seen all of "Lucas" - so I just thought, "Leukoplakia? That's not fatal!" :D
Pharmacy NERD! Pharmacy NERD! Pharmacy NERD ALERT! :eek:

[Neenahboy]

We'll see whether there is any real fallout from Sarah's killing of the criminal (who let's face it was asking to be shot). Chuck may not be able to deal with it.

Ausiello reported a few weeks back that Tricia Helfer (Battlestar Galactica) is booked for one episode as a replacement for Sarah. Seems the general is growing more concerned with Chuck and Sarah's bond and wants to bring in someone more...soulless. I'd been wondering how they were going to set that up.

[USAFSSO]

Ausiello reported a few weeks back that Tricia Helfer (Battlestar Galactica) is booked for one episode as a replacement for Sarah. Seems the general is growing more concerned with Chuck and Sarah's bond and wants to bring in someone more...soulless. I'd been wondering how they were going to set that up.

Even more reason to watch.

will we get double the underwear shots now...; )

[alpacaboy]

Ausiello reported a few weeks back that Tricia Helfer (Battlestar Galactica) is booked for one episode as a replacement for Sarah. Seems the general is growing more concerned with Chuck and Sarah's bond and wants to bring in someone more...soulless. I'd been wondering how they were going to set that up.

Isn't she busy tormenting a spy in Miami?

[cheesesteak]

Is a CIA agent even allowed to operate on American soil?

Somebody should edit the "Gloating" page of the Evildoers Handbook after this episode.

I have no problem with Sarah whacking the Fulcrum agent. He said he was going to expose Chuck and I'm pretty sure he said that Fulcrum agents were everywhere. Even taking him into custody could potentially expose Chuck as the Intersect. Plus, it's tv. Anyway, Chuck will be too much of a putz to simply ask Sarah why she shot him and this will drag out over the next umpteen episodes.

[hapdrastic]

No, Enrico Colantoni played the "captain," Mathesar. Jed Rees, who played Ned in this episode, played "Teb" in Galaxy Quest, and survived the movie. (The alien that got killed was "Quellek.")

Yeah - he's the one who takes over as pilot near the end "On, Teb, on!"

[Hunter Green]

The guy who drove the car into BM looked familiar & then it clicked in. He played an alien in Galaxy Quest.
Oh, good catch. I didn't even realize I recognized him!

[loubob57]

Is a CIA agent even allowed to operate on American soil?

Not to mention the armed NSA agents.

[danplaysbass]

You guys are all mentioning the link to Al Powell but that actor also played Carl Winslow on Family Matters. He was a cop on that show too.

[Church AV Guy]

No one mentioned Emmett giving an advertisement when asked for a statement by the news people. In the store, Big Al saw it on the televisions and said that he loved that man. My wife turned to me and asked me why Casey had not found a reason to kill Emmett yet.

Does anyone think that someone found Casey's toe?

[Graymalkin]

No one mentioned Emmett giving an advertisement when asked for a statement by the news people. In the store, Big Al saw it on the televisions and said that he loved that man. My wife turned to me and asked me why Casey had not found a reason to kill Emmett yet.

Because it's beyond the scope of his orders, and Casey's much better at following orders than Sarah. :D

[FilmCritic3000]

You guys are all mentioning the link to Al Powell but that actor also played Carl Winslow on Family Matters. He was a cop on that show too.

How soon they forget. Or never know.

[FilmCritic3000]

At the end, after Al and Big Mike had their little reunion, one of them asked if they should go get something to eat. It would have been perfect if Al had reached in his pocket and pulled out a Twinkie.

While Michael Rooker's character was on the phone with Chuck early in the episode, he did indeed begin unwrapping and eating a Twinkie.

[FilmCritic3000]

I LOVED that song at the end. It fit that part of the episode perfectly. It struck a bit closer to home with me, since I lost my mom a few months ago. Sure, some may say it's about lost romantic love but as this is my first Christmas without her, this song is resonating deeply within me as a song of a completely different sentiment.

It's by the British band Your Vegas. The song is "Christmas and Me Are Through".

http://www.thesixtyone.com/YourVegas/song/Christmas+And+Me+Are+Through/38075/

Laugh a little louder
Sing a little prouder
See you in the Rose and Crown
We’ll raise a glass to this old town
Home is where the heart is
The end is where the start is
Have a happy holiday
Remember, boy, to smile when you frown
Out by the old church
I can hear them sing
Long live the king

Oh, Santa Claus, Santa Claus
There’s no Christmas here anymore
Put the bells away
Burn the sleigh
Throw the presents out of my door
‘Cos she’s gone, gone
Everything they said was true
Christmas and me are through

Why’d you go and leave me
I guess you didn’t need me
Funny when you did it hey
All alone on Christmas Day
Wonder where the time goes
Dressing in the same clothes
Funny how the turkey tastes
With lunches from the microwave cold
Down by the old school
I can hear them sing
Love killed the king

Santa Claus, Santa Claus
There’s no Christmas here anymore
Put the bells away
Burn the sleigh
Throw the presents out of my door
‘Cos she’s gone, gone
Everything they said was true
Christmas and me are through
Christmas and me are through
Christmas and me are through

Santa Claus, Santa Claus
There’s no Christmas here anymore
Put the bells away
Burn the sleigh
Throw the presents out of my door
‘Cos she’s gone, gone
Everything they said was true
Christmas and meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee are through

[IndyJones1023]

How soon they forget. Or never know.

I knew, and hadn't forgotten. I didn't see how it was relevant to him reprising his Die Hard role on a different show, though.

[TriBruin]

How soon they forget. Or never know.


Or try to forget that show ever existed. Thanks everyone from bringing back up! :D

[Magister]

I didn't realize Urkle was in the Die Hard world... Guess that gives us a potential direction for the next movie..

[David Platt]

I LOVED that song at the end. It fit that part of the episode perfectly. It struck a bit closer to home with me, since I lost my mom a few months ago. Sure, some may say it's about lost romantic love but as this is my first Christmas without her, this song is resonating deeply within me as a song of a completely different sentiment.

It's by the British band Your Vegas. The song is "Christmas and Me Are Through".

http://www.thesixtyone.com/YourVegas/song/Christmas+And+Me+Are+Through/38075/

Thanks for posting that!

I tried to use Shazam to find out the artist and title of the song, but for once it didn't work.

[FilmCritic3000]

Thanks for posting that!

I tried to use Shazam to find out the artist and title of the song, but for once it didn't work.

You're very welcome, David.

I'm always on the lookout for unconventional Christmas tunes. The standards are fine but sometimes you want something a little different.