Putting the JFK Conspiracy Theories to Rest...

[Gregor]

CSI: Dallas?

A team of experts assembled by the Discovery Channel has recreated the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Using modern blood spatter analysis, new artificial human body surrogates, and 3-D computer simulations, the team determined that the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository was the most likely origin of the shot that killed the 35th president of the United States.

The show airs starting Sunday, 9 pm ET.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27705829/

[Amnesia]

I wonder how much the CIA paid them to say that...

[innocentfreak]

I am guessing this is going to turn out like Mythbusters showing the moon landing wasn't faked. Oh well worth watching to see what they say.

EDIT: The show is called JFK: Inside the Target Car on Discovery channel since I didn't see it mentioned in the thread unless I missed it.

[Bettamojo5]

They showed a preview on NBC Nightly News this evening. Looks interesting so I'll record it.

[LifeIsABeach]

There was a special back in 2003 for the 40th anniversary of the assasination that did something similar. They took every consipacy theory and tried to prove/disprove it.

1. Oswald could not get off three accurate shots so fast. They had a sniper re-create it by shooting into a target in a moving car from the top of a platform (they were not allowed in the depository) and he did it with ease.

2. The magic bullet. They used a computer simulation and proved it was possible.

3. The second shooter on the grassy knoll. They enhanced the footage and showed that it was just shadows and there was no one there.

4. Oswald could not make it to where he shot the cop in time. They had someone walk the route Oswald took and he was able to make it in time.

Don't remember what else they debunked, but it was very interesting and very well done. Will record and watch this one as well. Thanks for the info!

[Rob Helmerichs]

The conspiracy theories SHOULD have been put to rest ages ago, but conspiracy theorists being what they are, the conspiracy theories will always live on.

[cheerdude]

Back and to the Left
:)

[jlb]

It was Al Capone!

[Wilhite]

The conspiracy theories SHOULD have been put to rest ages ago, but conspiracy theorists being what they are, the conspiracy theories will always live on.

I wonder how much the CIA paid him to say that....


:D

[cheesesteak]

Hiro Nakamura did it.

[Rob Helmerichs]

I wonder how much the CIA paid him to say that....


:D
It wasn't the CIA, sheesh.

Oops...

[USAFSSO]

This is just a lazy production. "It's Nov, lets do a show on how JFK was killed." 44 years later and we still have to see this crap. It is just like every Sep we have to see the Loose Change--9/11 Truth crap.

Oswald shot him, he was the only one with a gun.

The truth is Sam Beckett was there and saved Jackie from getting shot. ;) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0681139/)

[mattack]

Hiro Nakamura did it.

No, the Red Dwarf guys did it. That kind of shocked me, that a comedy show would have them being involved in it.. (I honestly don't remember exactly how they were involved..)

[pjenkins]

if you go to the spot where JFK was killed and then go to the 6th floor museum, it's easy to see how Oswald did it, it's not exactly a hard shot.

[HellFish]

There was a special back in 2003 for the 40th anniversary of the assasination that did something similar. They took every consipacy theory and tried to prove/disprove it.


Do you remember what channel this was on? That sounds like something I'd like to watch.

edit: is this it? ABC News Presents The Kennedy Assassination - Beyond Conspiracy (http://www.amazon.com/ABC-News-Presents-Kennedy-Assassination/dp/B0001BFDKU)

[markymark_ctown]

For fans of The Office and Conspiracy Theories :D

http://www.nbc.com/The_Office/video/clips/customer-survey-clip-three/821583/

the last 30 seconds are great!

[The Flush]

For fans of The Office and Conspiracy Theories :D

http://www.nbc.com/The_Office/video/clips/customer-survey-clip-three/821583/

the last 30 seconds are great!

That's what she said.

[YCantAngieRead]

I used to be obsessed with presidential assassinations...not that I was in particular a big conspiracy fan. I just thought it was interesting, from a sociological perspective, what happens after assassinations. As such I have a library full of books on the subject.

So thanks for the head's up on this one.

[lew]

Do you remember what channel this was on? That sounds like something I'd like to watch.

edit: is this it? ABC News Presents The Kennedy Assassination - Beyond Conspiracy (http://www.amazon.com/ABC-News-Presents-Kennedy-Assassination/dp/B0001BFDKU)


Also a Nova special.

[cheesesteak]

No, the Red Dwarf guys did it. That kind of shocked me, that a comedy show would have them being involved in it.. (I honestly don't remember exactly how they were involved..)
I remember being kind of shocked at that episode. It ended up being funny so I didn't mind. If I remember correctly, they beamed into the Texas Schoolbook Depository for some reason and accidentally bumped into Oswald while he shot at Kennedy. JFK survived but world events took a much worse turn so they had to go back in time and let Kennedy be shot.

[aintnosin]

I was really impressed with this special. I only wish it could have been two hours.

Their tests using the simulated human skulls effectively drove the final nails into the grassy knoll shooter theory. :up:

[loubob57]

Also a Nova special.

I remember the Nova special. I'm convinced Oswald acted alone.

[aintnosin]

There was a special back in 2003 for the 40th anniversary of the assasination that did something similar. They took every consipacy theory and tried to prove/disprove it.

1. Oswald could not get off three accurate shots so fast. They had a sniper re-create it by shooting into a target in a moving car from the top of a platform (they were not allowed in the depository) and he did it with ease.

2. The magic bullet. They used a computer simulation and proved it was possible.

3. The second shooter on the grassy knoll. They enhanced the footage and showed that it was just shadows and there was no one there.

4. Oswald could not make it to where he shot the cop in time. They had someone walk the route Oswald took and he was able to make it in time.

Don't remember what else they debunked, but it was very interesting and very well done. Will record and watch this one as well. Thanks for the info!
5. They tested several popular locations for second/third/fourth/etc. gunmen and found they were either impractical (too exposed) or impossible (couldn't see the target from there or the location didn't even exist in '63).

6. They tested the theory that Oswald couldn't get from the sixth floor to the breakroom in 90 seconds without being winded. They had someone cover a similar course and he made it with 40 seconds to spare and wasn't even breathing a little bit hard.

[aintnosin]

Anyway, I had this thought while watching this special: Let's assume you have a conspiracy to assassinate JFK and Lee Harvey Oswald is your handpicked fall guy. The most important thing is that everyone believe that one guy fired the fatal shots from the sixth floor.

The last thing you want if for any evidence to point in any other direction. If you have shots coming from all directions, you run the risk (probably even a certainty) that evidence is going to point in all of those directions and blow any chance of pinning all of the blame on Oswald.

[mcdougll]

BTW, I finally watched a show I recorded a while ago about Secrets of Body Language, or something like that. Near the end they had someone on that had some voice analysis software. They played a video taken of Oswald when he was in police custody and analized his voice while answering questions about the assasination. The software indicated 'probable false' when he said that he didn't kill the president.

FWIW.