10/28 House to run a minute late

[TiVoJerry]

The 10/28 episode of House just had 1 minute added to the end of its schedule. Unfortunately we can't guarantee that the update will be picked up in time even if they call in before then.

Fringe is scheduled to start one minute late as a result.

[jayfest]

House has been running a couple of minutes long for the last couple of weeks. So has Bones, I think.

[Einselen]

No need to worry now, FOX is going to be FUBAR with the delay of the world series.

[TiVoJerry]

With that being the case, if a customer does not intervene, the DVR will record tonight's timeslot. If the episode airs again within the next 28 days, the DVR wouldn't record due to the 28-day rule.

You'll want to check your ToDo list for upcoming episodes to make sure it gets recorded.

[That Don Guy]

No need to worry now, FOX is going to be FUBAR with the delay of the world series.
If tonight is rained out as well, Fox might air the scheduled episode of House anyway. In this case, the problem will be that it starts a few minutes later than usual because of the time taken to make the announcement that the game was rained out.

(What will really cause a problem is if they get the game started, but then have to delay it again at, say, 8:30 - do they air a new House, a new Fringe, a House repeat, or what?)

-- Don

[Einselen]

Personally I would add some padding on to House tonight (10 min). The game may not even start which would mean that they (FOX) will come on for a few minutes show the weather, say game not starting when next attempt will be etc. With that and House already running long before that should cover it.

If the game does happen I have no clue when House will run (pushed back a week? later tonight?) either way the TiVo will not get that info and as Jerry said you will not get the recording due to the 28 day rule.

[Einselen]

If tonight is rained out as well, Fox might air the scheduled episode of House anyway. In this case, the problem will be that it starts a few minutes later than usual because of the time taken to make the announcement that the game was rained out.

(What will really cause a problem is if they get the game started, but then have to delay it again at, say, 8:30 - do they air a new House, a new Fringe, a House repeat, or what?)

-- Don

That is why I said FOX will be FUBAR tonight. Even if the game does not start things will be off a few min as they will break in at 8 to say game not starting talk a few min possibly and say when next game is (I wrote that my last post as you posted this).

If the game does start and then a rain delay again FOX has their contingency plan but who knows what that is (they did show a new Til Death the other night during those rain delays). The network knows what they will do (As well as affiliates, or at least they will later today) but that does not help us until we hear probably on the station on what they are doing.

If the game does get played out it is only 3 1/2 innings (it will start bottom of the 6th) so will House then come on after the game ends? If so even if TiVo knows this it won't know when the game ends and when to record (FOX can give an estimate but with baseball who knows how accurate that will be). They may just move House next week, they may play it tonight later at a certain time and just do a join in progress on some show after the game and get back on the normal schedule.

Regardless I am sure Jerry will update if/when he knows anything but I don't think FOX will let us know with much head way. I would like to know their plans on if they are to show House tonight or not (after the game, at 3 AM, whatever)

[That Don Guy]

Just got the word - no game tonight either. House should air as originally planned.

Maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me, but why do I have a feeling Fox "convinced" Bud Selig that conditions would not be good for a game tonight? (After all, Fox did manage to get the Series scheduled so there wouldn't be any games on Tuesdays.)

-- Don

[TiVoJerry]

Fox Jedi waves hand and says, "These are not the night's you're looking for".

Selig clicks the headset and repeats.

[TiVoJerry]

I just posted (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6802593#post6802593)additional warnings regarding Game 6 of the series.

[balboa dave]

The 10/28 episode of House just had 1 minute added to the end of its schedule. Unfortunately we can't guarantee that the update will be picked up in time even if they call in before then.

Fringe is scheduled to start one minute late as a result.I very much appreciate the House warnings, so can you please mention Fringe in the title too, as it is also can be adversely affected?

Last week, with this same scenario, I got the update in time to record House correctly with the 1:01 length, but Fringe did not record as its new start time did not update. The NP list showed a start time of 9:00 PM, and listed why the show didn't record because it was no longer in the guide. But it was aired starting at 9:01. So I guess there was only enough time for one show to update.

This week, I see the start time was updated correctly.

[TiVoJerry]

The problem you encountered should have only been exposed for a short period of time while the DVR was processing data, so, while unlikely, it's possible this is what happened.

The only other explanation would be if you have Overlap Protection turned off.

It's expected that both shows should receive the update at the same time. If someone were to only record Fringe, they would just get an extra minute added on the front end of the show so it's really not a problem.

Besides, believe it or not but I don't have the ability to modify the thread title. I'm just a regular poster here. :)

[dbpaddler]

well I have not had a Monday night yet that hasn't stopped house before the end and had it included in the beginning of the Fringe recording. It's extremely annoying and frustrating. And I'd be really ticked if I didn't have a season pass to Fringe. Now imagine all those that record one and not the other.

[TiVoJerry]

It's a legacy tactic from network providers to keep live viewers watching past the top of the hour so they won't switch channels. At the very least they should stay true to the overrun scheduling so they can fit into the 21st century.

[balboa dave]

It's a legacy tactic from network providers to keep live viewers watching past the top of the hour so they won't switch channels. At the very least they should stay true to the overrun scheduling so they can fit into the 21st century.Yes, it's a legacy tactic, but I bet they also get more money for a minute of House commercial time.

The problem you encountered should have only been exposed for a short period of time while the DVR was processing data, so, while unlikely, it's possible this is what happened.

Yes, that was probably a one-in-a-thousand occurrence. But I know I wasn't the only one.

The only other explanation would be if you have Overlap Protection turned off.

I do, but that's because while I like the idea, I don't like the way it's implemented. I would rather see a way to allow it on a per show basis that allows leading and/or trailing clipping. Just because I have a favorite show higher in the SP, it doesn't mean that the first and/or last minute has to be recorded.

It's expected that both shows should receive the update at the same time. If someone were to only record Fringe, they would just get an extra minute added on the front end of the show so it's really not a problem.If that were true, my second tuner would have recorded it. I know you make a reasonable assumption, but what happened in my case, the program that the recorder looked for (starting at 9pm) was not in the processed data it uses. As I said, a one-in-a-thousand occurrence.

Besides, believe it or not but I don't have the ability to modify the thread title. I'm just a regular poster here. :) I understand. I just meant to suggest that for future warnings, and they are very much appreciated, please put all shows in the title that might be affected.

[Worf]

Strange. House ran a minute long, but Fringe ended on time. (I pad House, and don't pad Fringe. Oddly, my TiVo decided to record Fringe too).

So it really depends - sometimes it might end at 9:01, and Fringe really runs from 9:01 to 10:00 exactly.

Mostly because Fringe has oddball commercial breaks so they may have run less ads still for it.

[Einselen]

Strange. House ran a minute long, but Fringe ended on time. (I pad House, and don't pad Fringe. Oddly, my TiVo decided to record Fringe too).

So it really depends - sometimes it might end at 9:01, and Fringe really runs from 9:01 to 10:00 exactly.

Mostly because Fringe has oddball commercial breaks so they may have run less ads still for it.

FOX only has 2 hours of primetime and gives he 10 PM slot to affiliates, mostly to boast the news first. That is why they generally have the min shift to keep the live viewers as Jerry said, plus selling an extra minute for the higher rated show can earn a little extra money. By 10 they are done though regardless of odd shifting.