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LordKronos

10-16-2008, 09:27 PM

bleen

10-16-2008, 10:10 PM

Ment

10-16-2008, 10:11 PM

Philosofy

10-16-2008, 10:12 PM

I looked it up online, and Crystal is 6'3". That's a damn big woman!

gossamer88

10-16-2008, 10:12 PM

Sugar took a big gamble. I swore she was gonna pull another James. I guess they just wanted to fish out the idol.

AstroDad

10-16-2008, 10:14 PM

Did I miss something, or did Ace completely fake that "sheild to the face". I rewatched it 4 times, and I didn't see a sheild go anywhere near his face. He just all of a sudden fell backward for no reason. Was he trying to create an excuse or gain sympathy in case they lost, so they wouldn't blame him?

I saw it. It didn't hit him, he hit it. He was bending over and bent right into the corner of the other guy's shield. He barely touched it, but if it was sharp I can see how it would hurt.

betts4

10-16-2008, 10:18 PM

GC and his tribemates are godawful stupid. His alliance should have made Sugar play the idol by announcing they knew she had it and she was the most dangerous person. Then they could still vote out GC since that deadweight doesn't deserve to play any longer.

I didn't think of that, but that would have been excellent!

I also can't remember seeing a group as dirty as these guys are. It is too bad that both tribes weren't allowed to take the fruit they got in the baskets back to the camp. I mean the winning tribe gets all the herbs, but both get their own fruit. This is such a lopsided Survivor, they should have another one right after it to make up for this season.

LordKronos

10-16-2008, 10:34 PM

I saw it. It didn't hit him, he hit it. He was bending over and bent right into the corner of the other guy's shield. He barely touched it, but if it was sharp I can see how it would hurt.

Oh, I see. Somehow the perspective threw me off. Looking at it again, now I can see how he hit it. Guess it wasn't a fake. Thanks

hummingbird_206

10-17-2008, 12:31 AM

To me the very best part of the Immunity challenge was on the last ball, red team ahead, and when Randy yelled for Ace to freeze and Ace froze! Randy wasn't on Ace's team, Sugar was Ace's caller. But Ace listened to Randy and stopped, the yellow ball scored, and that lost the challenge for the red team. OMG, what an idiot. And they didn't even comment on it:confused: I thought for sure Jeff would point it out at tribal, but not a word:eek: After that I for sure would have thought Ace was gone. But instead whiner boy GC got voted out. Not that I'll miss GC and all of his poor me BS. Guess that team just has so many people who would be good to vote out it's hard to decide.

And I was also really surprised that they didn't force Sugar to use the idol to save herself and then make GC the second vote getter and he would have been gone, too. Nitwits!

madscientist

10-17-2008, 12:53 AM

I think they edited the video of the IC in a weird way. Not only did the video make it look like Ace froze in response to Randy's commands which, as you point out would have been stupid, but they also cut to Sugar just standing there not saying anything: surely she was still yelling at Ace trying to tell him where to go? I have to believe that it didn't play out the way they made it seem on the show.

Of course, you never know...

DevdogAZ

10-17-2008, 01:21 AM

do these people watch the show? I didnt expect this to be this hard? :rolleyes:

what a waste...they need to have alternates!

can anyone quickly list the names of the people who have 'quit' in the past (not because of injuries)
Osten was the first. Chet basically quit last season and the crazy lady quit too. Jenna quit during All-Stars, but her mom was sick and she'd already won $1 million. Seems like Sue Hawk also quit on All-Stars, but I can't remember for sure. Seems like there are a couple more.

GC was a complete pansy. What a loser. I actually think that tribe just got stronger now that he's gone, and it's not very often you can say that when a tribe loses a man in his early 20s.

Penny Lane

10-17-2008, 01:29 AM

Osten was the first. Chet basically quit last season and the crazy lady quit too. Jenna quit during All-Stars, but her mom was sick and she'd already won $1 million. Seems like Sue Hawk also quit on All-Stars, but I can't remember for sure. Seems like there are a couple more.

GC was a complete pansy. What a loser. I actually think that tribe just got stronger now that he's gone, and it's not very often you can say that when a tribe loses a man in his early 20s.

I don't know if I would call him a man.

appleye1

10-17-2008, 04:55 AM

And I was also really surprised that they didn't force Sugar to use the idol to save herself and then make GC the second vote getter and he would have been gone, too. Nitwits!They're not smart enough to do anything like that. Anyway, I like Sugar. I'd like to see her stick around a while longer.

I can't believe they mixed up the tribes and Fang is still worthless. What a big waste of time!

Rob Helmerichs

10-17-2008, 07:35 AM

And I was also really surprised that they didn't force Sugar to use the idol to save herself and then make GC the second vote getter and he would have been gone, too. Nitwits!
That actually showed a glimmering of intelligence (or luck). Because that tactic never seems to work--there are usually too many things going on to be able to predict with the necessary confidence who will get how many votes. There's the one you want to blow the idol, the one you want to actually go, and the one that the other faction that you might not even know about is trying to get rid of. And if the other faction is after you, then you've just split your faction's vote.

Steveknj

10-17-2008, 08:20 AM

newsposter

10-17-2008, 08:27 AM

something about the way the idol is found and being used and being found out etc is making this game kinda boring and predictable to me.

IJustLikeTivo

10-17-2008, 08:40 AM

They're not smart enough to do anything like that. Anyway, I like Sugar. I'd like to see her stick around a while longer.

I can't believe they mixed up the tribes and Fang is still worthless. What a big waste of time!

I just don't understand how she made a living. They keep saying she's a pin-up model but she isn't really that good looking and her figure isn't as good as others on this season.

I think they completely screwed up in not blindsiding her though. Why would you not get rid of someone with the idol if you could? Was being rid of GC that beneficial?

TheDewAddict

10-17-2008, 08:47 AM

I just don't understand how she made a living. They keep saying she's a pin-up model but she isn't really that good looking and her figure isn't as good as others on this season.

Really? If you had just shown me Sugar's picture without ever telling me what she did for a living, I'd have said "wow, she should be a pin-up model." She has the right "look" for that style of photo.

SeanC

10-17-2008, 08:51 AM

Vapid?

Steveknj

10-17-2008, 08:55 AM

I just don't understand how she made a living. They keep saying she's a pin-up model but she isn't really that good looking and her figure isn't as good as others on this season.

I think they completely screwed up in not blindsiding her though. Why would you not get rid of someone with the idol if you could? Was being rid of GC that beneficial?

I think Sugar's look harkens back to the pinup girls of the 40s and 50s, like Betty Grable, Marilyn Monroe, etc (except for the tatoos which tend to ruin it for me). Those girls were not skinny girls, they had curves. Even her haircut is very 40s and 50s.

Jebberwocky!

10-17-2008, 09:14 AM

They did the right thing getting rid of GC, what a cancer. They can always work on Sugar next week.

I also would have worked at trying to get rid of GC and at the same time make sugar play the idol.

Mikeyis4dcats

10-17-2008, 09:20 AM

Sugar was also on Gilmore Girls and a few other shows apparently...

Donbadabon

10-17-2008, 09:37 AM

Seems like Sue Hawk also quit on All-Stars, but I can't remember for sure.

She did. Remember, she was 'raped' by Richard Hatch when he did the balance beam challenge naked.

heySkippy

10-17-2008, 09:37 AM

Sugar is cute, no doubt about that, and she's got some smarts too. She's about my favorite of the whole bunch of them and I hope she goes to the end.

As for GC, nothing could have been more important than getting rid of that guy. He was a cancer in the tribe that had to go.

MegaHertz67

10-17-2008, 10:01 AM

Oh, I see. Somehow the perspective threw me off. Looking at it again, now I can see how he hit it. Guess it wasn't a fake. ThanksI had to rewind, and it did hit him...but I think he milked it for effect.

What happened with GC is the problem with recruiting people to play as opposed to casting people that are fans. Fans have an idea of what to expect, and want to tough it out for ego and pride. GC seemed to look at this as a vacation with some games, and it go too rough for him.

That being said, they should have said something at TC about knowing Sugar had the idol to make her feel nervous enough to play it, even if they never cast a vote her way.

Einselen

10-17-2008, 10:06 AM

Wow they really ARE messed up - the perfect opportunity to blindside Sugar, and they end up going according to original plan. Obviously the editing cut out where they changed their minds (which often happens to throw the loyal viewer off). Ah well, should continue to be interesting :-O

I don't think blindsiding Sugar would be a good plan.

GC and his tribemates are godawful stupid. His alliance should have made Sugar play the idol by announcing they knew she had it and she was the most dangerous person. Then they could still vote out GC since that deadweight doesn't deserve to play any longer.

I think this is the better plan. You had the numbers to call her out. Be like look we know you have the idol, we are voting for you. We don't want you out but we don't want the idol in play. You and Ace vote for GC and you play the idol or you are going home. Simple enough.

Osten was the first. Chet basically quit last season and the crazy lady quit too. Jenna quit during All-Stars, but her mom was sick and she'd already won $1 million. Seems like Sue Hawk also quit on All-Stars, but I can't remember for sure. Seems like there are a couple more.

Fairplay quit on Fans vs Fav.

something about the way the idol is found and being used and being found out etc is making this game kinda boring and predictable to me.

I hate the you can search through a person's bag.

Sugar was also on Gilmore Girls and a few other shows apparently...

A lot of contestants on these shows are mactors, model/actors. 13 out of 14 on Fiji were like this, even Yau.

sushikitten

10-17-2008, 10:19 AM

Every season you get someone who whines how hard it is and it's not what they thought. How stupid are these people? There should be some punishment (worse than being voted off) for these idiots.

sushikitten

10-17-2008, 10:20 AM

Oh, and last night was the first night I heard Ace talking without his accent. :)

Rob Helmerichs

10-17-2008, 10:20 AM

I think this is the better plan. You had the numbers to call her out. Be like look we know you have the idol, we are voting for you. We don't want you out but we don't want the idol in play. You and Ace vote for GC and you play the idol or you are going home. Simple enough.
Better, but still dangerous. It gives people the opportunity to blindside the one who's trying to orchestrate it.

That's why I don't think the II is working very well. It hardly ever gets used, because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. And it hardly ever gets flushed out, because there are so many ways that could backfire.

pendragn

10-17-2008, 10:31 AM

A lot of contestants on these shows are mactors, model/actors. 13 out of 14 on Fiji were like this, even Yau.
I don't believe Yau was. There is nothing about him on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2524931/) aside from his stint on Survivor. What modeling or acting did he do before Survivor?

tk

Einselen

10-17-2008, 10:39 AM

Better, but still dangerous. It gives people the opportunity to blindside the one who's trying to orchestrate it.

That's why I don't think the II is working very well. It hardly ever gets used, because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. And it hardly ever gets flushed out, because there are so many ways that could backfire.

If they grouped together as the 4 or so (Matt, Olympic girl, Kelly, Ken) then there is not one person to "target" for it to backfire. You have to go for the entire group to get them out. Yes on person of those 4 have to mention it to the other 3 and that could backfire but better then the idol being out there.

I don't believe Yau was. There is nothing about him on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2524931/) aside from his stint on Survivor. What modeling or acting did he do before Survivor?

tk

I will look for the link on the article, I think it was posted previous in some other Survivor thread that mentioned that. Even if you don't do other shows (could also be extra that does not get proper credits) you can still be trying to get into the biz.

Einselen

10-17-2008, 10:46 AM

I will look for the link on the article, I think it was posted previous in some other Survivor thread that mentioned that. Even if you don't do other shows (could also be extra that does not get proper credits) you can still be trying to get into the biz.

Here is the link to the article, again it does contain behind the scenes info (casting, how many crews, setup of challenges) but no spoiler info for this season:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26726792/?GT1=43001

Why does the show cast models or actors or people who've never seen the show?
Because they don't receive enough quality applications. Lynne Spillman, who's in charge of casting for "Survivor" and "The Amazing Race," has said in interviews that the show regularly receives tens of thousands of applications, but most aren't from what the show considers to be good candidates. Thus, the show recruits, often models or actors (dubbed "mactors")although those people still go through the casting process. That's become more common recently; everyone except one person on "Survivor Fiji" was recruited, and while that may give us unmemorable mactors, recruiting has also given us unlikely but popular contestants such as Yau-Man Chan.

pendragn

10-17-2008, 10:52 AM

Here is the link to the article, again it does contain behind the scenes info (casting, how many crews, setup of challenges) but no spoiler info for this season:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26726792/?GT1=43001

Okay, that makes sense. I believe Yao was recruited, but I'm not sure I believe he was a model or actor. The recruiting makes sense though.

As a straight, white male in his 30s I stand almost no chance of getting on, so I've never tried.

tk

stark

10-17-2008, 11:00 AM

If they grouped together as the 4 or so (Matt, Olympic girl, Kelly, Ken) then there is not one person to "target" for it to backfire. You have to go for the entire group to get them out. Yes on person of those 4 have to mention it to the other 3 and that could backfire but better then the idol being out there.
That only works in theory. Sugar has no incentive to give up the Idol and still play nice by voting off GC.

If Sugar had went to any of the four and said "If I play the idol, YOU are going home", she would have been able to turn them. Better for them to leave the idol in play and stay alive for another three days than go home.

newsposter

10-17-2008, 11:02 AM

Really? If you had just shown me Sugar's picture without ever telling me what she did for a living, I'd have said "wow, she should be a pin-up model." She has the right "look" for that style of photo.

in this day and age you mean kids still hang up pics of their fav hottie girls? that just seems so 80s

ireland967

10-17-2008, 11:02 AM

I'm glad this season is in HD, there isn't much to keep watching for quite yet. The challenges at first glance have seemed very new and interesting and the environment is cool, but the cast just seems to fall flat.

Putting Sugar up as the caller was a horrible idea. I am starting to root for Randy, that was a very heads up move in the immunity challenge.

LifeIsABeach

10-17-2008, 11:14 AM

I hate the you can search through a person's bag.

I agree. The way Sugar was talking it sounds like the rules explicitly allow it. They need to change that. Either that or just go all the way and let people actually steal the immunity idol. At least that would be a little more interesting. You would have to hide it like Ozzy did and hope a tribe change did not take you to a different beach.

Rob Helmerichs

10-17-2008, 11:14 AM

If they grouped together as the 4 or so (Matt, Olympic girl, Kelly, Ken) then there is not one person to "target" for it to backfire. You have to go for the entire group to get them out. Yes on person of those 4 have to mention it to the other 3 and that could backfire but better then the idol being out there.
The problem is they can never be sure the people they're recruiting are playing straight with them. And I suspect that even when that's not a major problem, people are worried enough about the possibility not to try it.

Even just voting one person off, there are possibilities for betrayals and backstabbings. When you factor in the complicated alliances that are necessary for an idol flush, it becomes so risky you would have to either be REALLY sure of your alliance--probably suicidally sure--or stupid to try it.

SeanC

10-17-2008, 11:20 AM

Putting Sugar up as the caller was a horrible idea.

The second I saw her there I knew they lost.

hummingbird_206

10-17-2008, 11:34 AM

... I am starting to root for Randy, that was a very heads up move in the immunity challenge.

Yeah, Randy has really been kicking butt in the challenges. I wonder if his tribe realizes how much he has helped them? At didn't care much for him at the beginning, but I'm liking him now.

Einselen

10-17-2008, 11:35 AM

That only works in theory. Sugar has no incentive to give up the Idol and still play nice by voting off GC.

If Sugar had went to any of the four and said "If I play the idol, YOU are going home", she would have been able to turn them. Better for them to leave the idol in play and stay alive for another three days than go home.

The problem is they can never be sure the people they're recruiting are playing straight with them. And I suspect that even when that's not a major problem, people are worried enough about the possibility not to try it.

Even just voting one person off, there are possibilities for betrayals and backstabbings. When you factor in the complicated alliances that are necessary for an idol flush, it becomes so risky you would have to either be REALLY sure of your alliance--probably suicidally sure--or stupid to try it.

Those are semi valid pts I guess. I mean the same goes for a blindside I think as far as numbers goes. They had GC, Matty, Crystal, Kelly, Ken to Ace and Sugar. In order for my plan to work you would have to do 3 for Sugar and 2 for GC but then Ace and Sugar could vote for say Matty and that leaves a 2-2 tie with the idol played. The other way it to bluff and try to flus out the idol that way. Regardless though if they were going to flush it out (before merger) then this had to be the week as now the numbers are no where in the favor to flush it out so the only other way is to blindside which I think is possible next week.

TheDewAddict

10-17-2008, 12:17 PM

in this day and age you mean kids still hang up pics of their fav hottie girls? that just seems so 80s

Pin-up is hot again. Now, do people still hang them up? Probably not. But the style of pin-up is hot. Especially among women who are not models, but want some "sexy" pictures of themselves. Pin-up is sexy, but it's also playful, and since it's been around for a while, it's thought of as safe and acceptable.

pmyers

10-17-2008, 01:32 PM

Ever since the bios were posted on CBS, I've liked Randy. The guy just tears up challanges.

They must have really edited the heck out of that TC because Sugar must have found out they had searched her bag because she was saying just the right words to let them know that she knew and might play the idol so they better not vote for her.

btw...I really loved the challange with throwing the balls down the hill. That was great!

tivoboyjr

10-17-2008, 02:03 PM

I think Sugar's look harkens back to the pinup girls of the 40s and 50s, like Betty Grable, Marilyn Monroe, etc (except for the tatoos which tend to ruin it for me). Those girls were not skinny girls, they had curves. Even her haircut is very 40s and 50s.

Sugar looks like a slightly less attractive, but much better endowed, version of Kate Hudson.

Oh, and last night was the first night I heard Ace talking without his accent. :)

Early in the show, when he was talking to the camera at night - no accent at all.

btw...I really loved the challange with throwing the balls down the hill. That was great!

I was just thinking this last night - they finally came up with some new, creative challenges this season.

Steveknj

10-17-2008, 02:37 PM

Here is the link to the article, again it does contain behind the scenes info (casting, how many crews, setup of challenges) but no spoiler info for this season:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26726792/?GT1=43001

I still find it hard to believe, that out of tens of thousands of applications, they can't find 15-20 people? To me, it's like the days they rigged the game shows. It bothers me the average Joe can't get a chance to be on a show like this. And it bothers me that the producers can't admit it up front instead of telling us that so and so is from Minneapolis and is a salesman instead of them really living in LA and an actor.

Jebberwocky!

10-17-2008, 03:00 PM

don't forget to read Probst's Blog

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/10/jeff-probst-b-1.html#more

stellie93

10-17-2008, 04:08 PM

It was pretty cool getting that close to the elephant. Judging from the way he picked up that tree, maybe a little too close.

tivoboyjr

10-17-2008, 05:41 PM

I still find it hard to believe, that out of tens of thousands of applications, they can't find 15-20 people? To me, it's like the days they rigged the game shows. It bothers me the average Joe can't get a chance to be on a show like this. And it bothers me that the producers can't admit it up front instead of telling us that so and so is from Minneapolis and is a salesman instead of them really living in LA and an actor.

The only season I didn't really watch much of was the All-Stars vs. Fans version or whatever it was called. Were those people actually fans? Or were they wannabe actors who knew nothing about the show, too?

steve614

10-17-2008, 05:43 PM

btw...I really loved the challange with throwing the balls down the hill. That was great!
I was just thinking this last night - they finally came up with some new, creative challenges this season.
I liked the new challenge as well, but I couldn't help but think it was Survivors version of Plinko from TPIR. :p
It was pretty cool getting that close to the elephant. Judging from the way he picked up that tree, maybe a little too close.
Nah, they were OK. There was water between them and the elephant. As for the two who ventured further in the canoe....who knows.

Personally, I would like to have seen the elephant charge the Survivors, to have them scrambling for their lives.
Now that's what I call being a SURVIVOR! :D

heySkippy

10-17-2008, 05:46 PM

The only season I didn't really watch much of was the All-Stars vs. Fans version or whatever it was called. Were those people actually fans? Or were they wannabe actors who knew nothing about the show, too?

They were supposed to be fans, but the favorites mopped the floor with them. It was actually a quite entertaining season.

hummingbird_206

10-17-2008, 06:39 PM

I liked the new challenge as well, but I couldn't help but think it was Survivors version of Plinko from TPIR. :p

I said the same thing about it being Plinko to my BF, but he's never watched TPIR so the meaning was lost on him. Glad to see someone else who had the same thought!
They were supposed to be fans, but the favorites mopped the floor with them. It was actually a quite entertaining season.
I enjoyed the Fans vs. Favs season, too. But the favs really had an advantage since they had all been through it before. I think it's easy to sit at home and say you understand how hard it would be to be out there, but until you actually do it, I doubt you really know what you're in for. Also, the fans were so in awe of the favs that it was easy for the favs to pick them off.

I'd like a Survivor season where they are all fans. And I'd like to see them change up the HII. The whole EI thing with the HII makes it too easy to figure out who has it....not that they use it wisely, but still, I'd rather it become less obvious.

Ruth

10-17-2008, 07:04 PM

This season is just really boring to me for some reason. I find myself starting other projects and wandering away from the TV during the episodes and I don't even bother to go back and see what I missed. Hopefully it will pick up soon . . .

Bulldog7

10-17-2008, 07:21 PM

...because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.....

Except for the Knight who say "NEE"......groaner, I know, but I was compelled
by the spirits to say it. :D:D:D:D

Anubys

10-17-2008, 10:13 PM

-- eat your rice

-- don't tell me what to do

what a total idiot...good riddance...

Kelly with her pants unzipped was totally hot :)

Randy's freezing of Ace was awesome...

DevdogAZ

10-18-2008, 04:24 PM

The only season I didn't really watch much of was the All-Stars vs. Fans version or whatever it was called. Were those people actually fans? Or were they wannabe actors who knew nothing about the show, too?
They were all fans. IIRC, they were all in awe when Jeff introduced the Faves to them.
I liked the new challenge as well, but I couldn't help but think it was Survivors version of Plinko from TPIR. :p
We also said it was Giant Plinko at our house. I would have liked to see the obstacles on the hill make more of a difference. The balls seemed to cruise right over them.
Nah, they were OK. There was water between them and the elephant. As for the two who ventured further in the canoe....who knows.

Personally, I would like to have seen the elephant charge the Survivors, to have them scrambling for their lives.
Now that's what I call being a SURVIVOR! :D
I kept expecting a croc to come up to their boat while they were focusing on the elephant. I'm still surprised it's safe for them to swim in that water.

MegaHertz67

10-19-2008, 09:33 AM

We also said it was Giant Plinko at our house. I would have liked to see the obstacles on the hill make more of a difference. The balls seemed to cruise right over them.The obsticles DID make the balls move left or right if you watch the direction they were thrown and where they ended up at the bottom. The editing was awful on that part of the game. They should have followed one of the balls from top to bottom to show us what happened. But then again they are editing to make it more exciting, and that might not have been exciting enough footage.

DevdogAZ

10-19-2008, 09:34 PM

The obsticles DID make the balls move left or right if you watch the direction they were thrown and where they ended up at the bottom. The editing was awful on that part of the game. They should have followed one of the balls from top to bottom to show us what happened. But then again they are editing to make it more exciting, and that might not have been exciting enough footage.
Not to mention that if the obstacles did change the course of the ball, it made a nearly impossible game that much harder. Why did they have to keep starting from way over on the side? We were thinking that all the throwers would have to do is throw to the other side of the chute and the blockers would never be able to get there in time.

One more observation I forgot to point out, that ultimately didn't matter. When Sugar kept talking about the "Sugar Shack," I thought that was really stupid of her because it essentially tells the next person to go to Exile that she's been hanging out in the shack, and therefore that she has the II. In fact, I think she said it at the challenge in front of the other tribe, so that means Dan could probably figure it out too. However, since they went through her bag and know that she has it anyway, it probably won't mean much.

JLucPicard

10-20-2008, 07:09 AM

Einselen

10-20-2008, 09:47 AM

Not to mention that if the obstacles did change the course of the ball, it made a nearly impossible game that much harder. Why did they have to keep starting from way over on the side? We were thinking that all the throwers would have to do is throw to the other side of the chute and the blockers would never be able to get there in time.

I thought the same thing. Sure the higher points were middle but I think a better strategy would have been you can set your blocker wherever you want and then the thrower could see and figure where they would like to throw to. I myself would have been throwing more towards the far side as the move movement would make it harder.

One more observation I forgot to point out, that ultimately didn't matter. When Sugar kept talking about the "Sugar Shack," I thought that was really stupid of her because it essentially tells the next person to go to Exile that she's been hanging out in the shack, and therefore that she has the II. In fact, I think she said it at the challenge in front of the other tribe, so that means Dan could probably figure it out too. However, since they went through her bag and know that she has it anyway, it probably won't mean much.

Get out of my head! I thought that too. The point of exile is not to talk about it too much but talk about it enough to make it seem like you are not talking about it too much.

betts4

10-20-2008, 10:00 AM

WhiskeyTango

10-20-2008, 11:11 AM

She seemed to be 'bragging' about being in the shack. Dan is the only one that knows that you can choose shack or idol. I can't imagine thinking she just went for the shack without searching for and finding the idol.

I thought she mentioned after one of her other trips there that she tried to find it and couldn't get past the second clue so she gave up. Maybe she was trying to play that angle, like it was too hard for her so she was just going to take comfort and not try to find the II anymore.