Changing Tivo IP to match new router

[cwaring]

Here we go again!

I just upgraded my broadband to the next package up (10mb) and so have received my free router, which is the latest - v9 - of the WGR614 that I had previously.

However, this is changed my network settings.

Before:
Router Status

Account Name WGR614v4
Firmware Version V5.0_07

Internet Port
MAC Address 00:09:5b:df:5b:7b
IP Address 80.x.xx.xxx
DHCP DHCP Client
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.252.0
Domain Name Server
194.168.4.100
194.168.8.100

LAN Port
MAC Address 00:09:5b:df:5b:7a
IP Address 192.168.0.1
DHCP On
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0

Wireless Port
Name (SSID) theannex
Region Europe
Channel 6
Mode g only
Wireless AP On
Broadcast Name On

Now:

Router Status

Account Name WGR614V9
Hardware Version V9
Firmware Version V1.0.11_1.0.1VGUK

Internet Port
MAC Address 00:22:3F:1A:F8:BD
IP Address 86.xx.xxx.xx
DHCP DHCPClient
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.252.0
Domain Name Server
194.168.4.100
194.168.8.100


LAN Port
MAC Address 00:22:3F:1A:F8:BC
IP Address 192.168.1.1
DHCP ON
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0

Wireless Port
Name (SSID) theannex
Region Europe
Channel 06
Mode g only
Wireless AP ON
Broadcast Name ON


Not knowing much about networking, what do I need to change on my Tivo (and the WPS606 for that matter!) to get things working with my new router?

Just the IP address (by the looks of it!)?

Thanks.

[rickynumber18]

Hi Carl. When I updated my modem/router recently I just ran (via Telnet) nic_config_tivo (Ethernet Options No. 2) and altered my IP address to one within the range of my new modem/router. That was it. Nothing more and it worked a-okay.

I did this before disconnecting my old modem/router so I could still talk to TiVo via Telnet. As soon as I'd committed the change I lost my connection and it wasn't restored until I plugged the new modem/router.

[Craig Arthur]

Alternatively change the IP address of the new router to match your old range..?

Possibly easier depending on how many fixed IP addresses you have on the network.

[Mark Bennett]

Alternatively change the IP address of the new router to match your old range..?

Possibly easier depending on how many fixed IP addresses you have on the network.

That's what I'd do...

IP Address 192.168.0.1

[cwaring]

Hmmm. Never thought of that, except I don't think I can.

[rickynumber18]

Try my idea. It should work and I think it's easier than giving your modem/router a new IP range, as you say if you can. I've not been able to on any of my recent models.

[RichardJH]

Carl when you access the router setup via 192.168.1.1 (the netgear default IP ) can you go to advanced/ Lan IP setup and change the IP to what you want 192.168.0.1.

The close the browser window and re login using 192.168.0.1.

[cwaring]

Okay. I did that and it worked. However, the Tivo is not really the problem. I can't seem to reconfigure my Wireless Bridge.

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3874/ng1ny1.jpg

1. It's right next to the Router; signal strength @ 99%
2. It IS on
3. No mis-match!
4. They do match!

If I continue and do it manually, I don't know what subnet mask to use as I can't use the same one as another device and any other numbers I enter don't work :mad:

[ColinYounger]

Carl - if you've changed the IP address on the router as suggested in post #7, you'll need to reboot the bridge as well so that it gets a new IP address from the router.

IOW, The bridge is probably still on a 192.168.1.x address.

[cwaring]

Yeah. It's been un-plugged a few times since I changed the IP :)

So anyway, I can connect the Bridge to my Router and log into it. However, even if I change the Wireless Settings manually, it still doesn't work. Check this out.

These are my correct wireless settings:
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9634/image1sr6.th.jpg (http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1sr6.jpg)

and here's the resulting wireless signal; non-existant
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/7076/image2uv8.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2uv8.jpg)

It's very fustrating :mad:

Of course, it has to be something really simple that I'm missing :p

[RichardJH]

Not sure if it could be the problem BUT when you changed the IP address did you change the subnet to 255.255.255.0 at the same time

[cwaring]

Nope. Only ever changed the IP.

Hmmm. So now the Subnet Mask on both the Router LAN Port and the Bridge is the same. That can't be good; right? Which should I change and to what, if necessary?

[ColinYounger]

Your subnet mask is fine - it tells your router\bridge what other addresses it can 'see' on your LAN.

255 means 'exactly what I have in this spot'. 0 means 'any number 0-255'. So 255.255.255.0 means it can see other IP addresses in the 192.168.0.x range.

If it was 255.255.0.0, it could see 192.168.x.x. Get the idea?

Limiting it's range to just one set of numbers (255.255.255.0) is good.

[ColinYounger]

Carl - where do you tell your bridge what channel to listen on? Your router is broadcasting on channel 6.

[Pugwash]

Someone needs to write a good guide to setting up home networks. It's fairly simple when you've done it a few times but I'm guessing for the average person it's black magic?

[cwaring]

Well I don't know how I did it, but it's all working again now; and on the original IP. So I'm both :D and :confused: :p

[RichardJH]

Well done Carl. And another well done for starting and finishing a thread that has not been hijacked by P:D:rolleyes:

[cwaring]

Just got my new v9 WGR614 through from Virgin Media (rented this time!) and, once again, have lost Web access to my Tivo.

Current/New Configuration:
timing setting = optimal
mac address = 00:0B:AD:25:59:F8
ip address = 192.168.0.200
ip subnet mask = 255.255.255.0
ip gateway = 192.168.1.1
debug level = off
daily call = dialup

I have set up DynDNS in the new router as well as the correct Port Forwarding. However, I suspect that the problem is that the IP Gateway doesn't match the IP address; with the latter being on .1.nnn and the former on .0.nnn

Assuming I'm right, I'm sure I have tried changing it but can't seem to get it to take :(

Hang on.... I just noticed that, in my router, the LAN Port is on 192.168.0.1 so I can't change the Gateway to that now, can I? Choose another digit?

[BrianHughes]

Just got my new v9 WGR614 through from Virgin Media (rented this time!) and, once again, have lost Web access to my Tivo.

Current/New Configuration:
timing setting = optimal
mac address = 00:0B:AD:25:59:F8
ip address = 192.168.0.200
ip subnet mask = 255.255.255.0
ip gateway = 192.168.1.1
debug level = off
daily call = dialup

I have set up DynDNS in the new router as well as the correct Port Forwarding. However, I suspect that the problem is that the IP Gateway doesn't match the IP address; with the latter being on .1.nnn and the former on .0.nnn

Assuming I'm right, I'm sure I have tried changing it but can't seem to get it to take :(

Hang on.... I just noticed that, in my router, the LAN Port is on 192.168.0.1 so I can't change the Gateway to that now, can I? Choose another digit?

Hi Carl - Your router lan ip is 192.168.0.1 so that's the gateway you need to set the Tivo to. ie you need:
ip address = 192.168.0.200
ip subnet mask = 255.255.255.0
ip gateway = 192.168.0.1
on your Tivo.

HTH
Brian

[Cainam]

You were right the first time :)

If the IP address of your router is 192.168.0.1, that is EXACTLY what you need to put in the Tivo as the gateway address.

So you will have
router IP = 192.168.0.1
Tivo IP = 192.168.0.200
Tivo gateway = 192.168.0.1

The problem is a bug with the cachecard software - unless you set it to network it always forgets the gateway address and puts 192.168.1.1 in there, regardless of what you saved.

Change it to network, change the gateway to 0.1 and try again!

[cwaring]

YES! Grassy arse.

[ColinYounger]

Hey Carl - Don't take this the wrong way; how come you get through so many routers? I've had the same one for years and years...

I'm starting to feel a little left out. :o

[cwaring]

Huh? This is only my second! :confused:

[verses]

Third surely?! ("Don't call me shirley")

There's the one you had originally, then the one you got that started this thread (19/09) then the one you got that revived the thread (24/11) :)

Ian

[cwaring]

Nope. Two routers and one Wireless Bridge.