The Biggest Loser: Families, TBL S6 entire season thread *SPOILERS*

[gchance]

Since Havana's asleep, I may as well get this thread started. ;)

This season's filming is over, although they'll have the finale live on the final episode. According to Jillian Michaels, filming for S7 starts NEXT WEEK, if you can believe it. They'll be running S6 & S7 back to back.

When they first started filming this season, Jillian talked a lot on her radio show about some of the logistics. She mentioned her and Bob flying out to pick up the contestants this time around, I purposely didn't post about it so it would be a surprise to everyone.

Didn't that work out great? I REALLY liked it! Jillian had said how heartbreaking it was with the father/son duo and how their entire family is enabling them along with being heavy themselves, and how worried she was that after the show they wouldn't be able to continue. Also on her show she's expressed over and over again how difficult it's been dealing with the guy who can only exercise 30 minutes a day.

Once again they did what turned me off of TBL in the first place, working the contestants to the point of vomiting. I think that's the only thing with this show that I disagree with. Both Bob & Jillian joke and laugh about it (both on the show and on Jillian's radio show).

This early on, it's hard to say who has the greatest potential to win. Unlike last season, there's nobody that stands out as not ready to do what they should (there were two of those last season).

Another interesting thing, because of the amount of time between the beginning of filming and now as compared to prior seasons, the first people eliminated have actually lost a good amount of weight. Usually those people don't lose much at all because they weren't at the ranch long enough to develop in the knowledge and drive to sustain it on their own.

Right now that's all I remember that stood out to me. With the number of contestants in the first episode, they didn't get into detail as much as they do later on. It always cracks me up when Jillian stands on top of contestants though.

Oh, and another thing. I mentioned this to my wife, but all the contestants have VOLUNTEERED for this. They applied to be contestants, and have seen the show before, so they know what they're getting into. Why do they always seem so surprised that the workouts are so hard?

Greg

[Donbadabon]

One thing I wish they would do is give everyone a free pass the first week, and have no evictions until week 2.

This would allow people to get to know one another, and also allow the losing couple to have more of the process embedded in them before they left.

People pulled in some big numbers to start off the game - which is expected.

[Jayjoans]

Wife and I enjoy TBL, but more and more I just can't even watch when Jillian is on the screen. Her attitude and manufactured drama is just too much. This woman has an ego bigger than the fattest participant. The hate-filled glares, threats, "watch your Daddy die" comments are too much.

The mother/daughter team can go anytime, they bug.

[mcb08]

/snip

Oh, and another thing. I mentioned this to my wife, but all the contestants have VOLUNTEERED for this. They applied to be contestants, and have seen the show before, so they know what they're getting into. Why do they always seem so surprised that the workouts are so hard?

Greg

Maybe because they're grossly overweight, due to no prior exercise regime, and they have no idea what they're really in for?

[gchance]

One thing I wish they would do is give everyone a free pass the first week, and have no evictions until week 2.

This would allow people to get to know one another, and also allow the losing couple to have more of the process embedded in them before they left.

People pulled in some big numbers to start off the game - which is expected.

I agree with your entire post. Not only would it let everyone know one another, but it lets the audience know them as well. Later in the season we actually care about the contestants, but after watching them for what amounts to a few minutes (the ones voted off), as viewers we just don't care.

Wife and I enjoy TBL, but more and more I just can't even watch when Jillian is on the screen. Her attitude and manufactured drama is just too much. This woman has an ego bigger than the fattest participant. The hate-filled glares, threats, "watch your Daddy die" comments are too much.

The mother/daughter team can go anytime, they bug.


Jillian's discussed this many times on her radio show. NBC likes to portray her as "mean". Of course she said that to the contestant, but that was one instant of her trying whatever she could to get the contestant to work hard out of a week's worth of footage. The producers show what they want to show.

I know I've mentioned this before, but I'll repost the link. Jillian Michaels has a radio show every Sunday from 11am to 1pm, and sometimes she has guests. She's had past contestants, current contestants, and Bob quite a few times. Sometimes the contestants will call during the current season, which can get funny.

Anyway all her shows are put onto the web as a podcast (http://2005.kfi640.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=SUNDAY.xml) that can be downloaded. The only downside is that KFI doesn't put JUST her podcast on that page, it's all their Sunday shows. I think if you listen to her show you might change your opinion of her. VERY informative and fun to listen to.

Greg

[pendragn]

Can we have a separate thread for each episode? As it stands I can't subscribe to the thread because I don't watch the episodes right away, so alerts will show up between airing and when I watch it that may have spoilers.

I missed the first 15 minutes last night, I forgot the show was coming back. I liked what I saw, but I admit Jillian seemed a little too bitchy. Other than that it was a good watch. I was amazed how much weight the one guy lost with the 30 minutes a day workout. Simply amazed.

tk

[Donbadabon]

I did laugh when Jillian said (paraphrasing) :

"We can do it one of two ways - My way; or my way mad."

[gchance]

Can we have a separate thread for each episode? As it stands I can't subscribe to the thread because I don't watch the episodes right away, so alerts will show up between airing and when I watch it that may have spoilers.

I'm only following the pattern that we've been following the past 3 or 4 seasons. The problem is this show doesn't have near the viewers as some of the others.

Greg

[IJustLikeTivo]

It always cracks me up when Jillian stands on top of contestants though.

Oh, and another thing. I mentioned this to my wife, but all the contestants have VOLUNTEERED for this. They applied to be contestants, and have seen the show before, so they know what they're getting into. Why do they always seem so surprised that the workouts are so hard?

Greg

Jillian can stand on me anytime. ;):D:p

As regards the vomiting. Given the poor shape these people are in, almost any amount of exercise will make some of them lose their lunch.

[IJustLikeTivo]

podcast (http://2005.kfi640.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=SUNDAY.xml) that can be downloaded. The only downside is that KFI doesn't put JUST her podcast on that page, it's all their Sunday shows. I think if you listen to her show you might change your opinion of her. VERY informative and fun to listen to.

Greg

I wish they would put the podcast in itunes. Last time I checked it was not there and the link will not work in itunes. I hate doing it manually. Just too much trouble.

[mattack]

Since Havana's asleep, I may as well get this thread started. ;)

This season's filming is over, although they'll have the finale live on the final episode. According to Jillian Michaels, filming for S7 starts NEXT WEEK, if you can believe it. They'll be running S6 & S7 back to back.

When they first started filming this season, Jillian talked a lot on her radio show about some of the logistics. She mentioned her and Bob flying out to pick up the contestants this time around, I purposely didn't post about it so it would be a surprise to everyone.

Haven't read the whole thread yet.. but...

Don't they usually start filming for several weeks/months beforehand, and then overlap showing of the earlier weeks with the actual end of the season? i.e. so the live finale ends up so there isn't a big giant gap between the end of filming.

The flying to constestants -- silly. Yeah, people always just have a big party with cameras around AND HAPPEN TO JUST LEAVE THE FRONT DOOR STANDING WIDE OPEN so someone can walk in and "surprise" them.

If they showed cases where they go to people and tell them they *didn't* make the show, I would possibly believe it wasn't 100% staged and they knew it all.

[laria]

This early on, it's hard to say who has the greatest potential to win. Unlike last season, there's nobody that stands out as not ready to do what they should (there were two of those last season).

Yeah, it's hard to tell this early, with all the back story stuff. We didn't really get to see them on the ranch that much.

Already the orange team husband (the newlyweds) is annoying me.

And I would still MUCH rather have Bob as my trainer than Jillian. She is so mean. :) I don't like her style at all.

[laria]

The flying to constestants -- silly. Yeah, people always just have a big party with cameras around AND HAPPEN TO JUST LEAVE THE FRONT DOOR STANDING WIDE OPEN so someone can walk in and "surprise" them.

Yeah, I thought it was kinda silly, too. :) The people seemed pretty surprised, but honestly how can you NOT know? Gee, my entire family is gathered here in my house with a tv crew, I sure hope I get on the show! *fingers crossed* :D

[Donbadabon]

I wish they would put the podcast in itunes. Last time I checked it was not there and the link will not work in itunes. I hate doing it manually. Just too much trouble.

Why won't the link work in iTunes?

[gchance]

Don't they usually start filming for several weeks/months beforehand, and then overlap showing of the earlier weeks with the actual end of the season? i.e. so the live finale ends up so there isn't a big giant gap between the end of filming.

Between the beginning of the season and the end of filming, sure. But when the first episode airs, usually it's only been a few months. In this particular case, the first episode is airing after the entire season's over. What I was getting at earlier is this time around the amount of time between the first couple leaving the ranch and showing them "now" is a lot longer.

Already the orange team husband (the newlyweds) is annoying me.

It's obvious that he's trying HARD to be the "joker" of the group. Right off the bat he talked about how Alison Sweeney is a "hottie", the little performance he gave showing how tired he was. You know, after he said he was "panting like a dog" they cut to him shaking, drooling, barely able to drink from a water bottle, surrounded with like 10 bottles. What's funny about that one is they were giving all the "green" talks the last two seasons, about not using the regular bottles and using reusable bottles... yet here he is with the throwaways.

I just keep telling myself, you have to expect that sort of thing, it's a "reality" show. That's one of my beefs with the show, NBC focuses on the reality element rather than the life-changing element.

And I would still MUCH rather have Bob as my trainer than Jillian. She is so mean. :) I don't like her style at all.

Again, it's all what you're shown. Bob's just as tough if not tougher than Jillian. They showed a bit of this last season, when his team showed small numbers (a few people lost nothing, while everyone else had lost like 1 pound). He kicked their asses the next week and they showed every bit of him screaming at them.

Greg

[IJustLikeTivo]

Why won't the link work in iTunes?

I tried it and it wouldn't take the link. I haven't tried lately. Maybe it's fixed.

[laria]

What's funny about that one is they were giving all the "green" talks the last two seasons, about not using the regular bottles and using reusable bottles... yet here he is with the throwaways.

Hrm, I deleted the episode but I didn't remember them being throwaway bottles. I thought I remembered them being yellow/orange colored reusables.

Again, it's all what you're shown. Bob's just as tough if not tougher than Jillian. They showed a bit of this last season, when his team showed small numbers (a few people lost nothing, while everyone else had lost like 1 pound). He kicked their asses the next week and they showed every bit of him screaming at them.

I will grant you that it's possible we're only being shown what NBC wants us to see, but I just really don't like her style. It's not even really about how "tough" she is. If I could afford a trainer, I wouldn't want them to take it easy on me... I'm paying them to get me into shape after all! But when they show Bob screaming at them and kicking their asses, it always seems more like the style of ass kicking that I would personally respond to better than Jillian's.

[IJustLikeTivo]

I tried it and it wouldn't take the link. I haven't tried lately. Maybe it's fixed.

The xml link they give still errors out in itunes. It says this does not appear to be a valid podcast feed.

It appears that the string may be truncated after I try to save it.

Does anyone have the podcast feed for this working?

[gchance]

Hrm, I deleted the episode but I didn't remember them being throwaway bottles. I thought I remembered them being yellow/orange colored reusables.

Whoops, you were right. I just went back and skipped to that scene. He had the yellow disposables, but about 10 of them. None of them were empty but he was fumbling around like, "ohhhh look at meeee, I can't even pick one up without knocking them all overrrrrr". Hehe.

Greg

[pendragn]

The xml link they give still errors out in itunes. It says this does not appear to be a valid podcast feed.

It appears that the string may be truncated after I try to save it.

Does anyone have the podcast feed for this working?

I use the podcast feed with Juice and have for a couple of years. It works fine. My only complaint is that it gets the whole Sunday schedule instead of just the two shows I want; Jillian and Leo.

tk

[IJustLikeTivo]

I use the podcast feed with Juice and have for a couple of years. It works fine. My only complaint is that it gets the whole Sunday schedule instead of just the two shows I want; Jillian and Leo.

tk

I never tried that. When I try to use the Jillian one, I can use itunes to listen but not subscribe. I get leo via itunes directly in the podcast section since he puts it there. Jillian does not. Apparently, she didn't negotiate that privilege like leo since there is also no link from her web site.

[Havana Brown]

Wife and I enjoy TBL, but more and more I just can't even watch when Jillian is on the screen. Her attitude and manufactured drama is just too much. This woman has an ego bigger than the fattest participant. The hate-filled glares, threats, "watch your Daddy die" comments are too much.

The mother/daughter team can go anytime, they bug.

Yeah, it's hard to tell this early, with all the back story stuff. We didn't really get to see them on the ranch that much.

Already the orange team husband (the newlyweds) is annoying me.

And I would still MUCH rather have Bob as my trainer than Jillian. She is so mean. :) I don't like her style at all.


I looooove Jillian. If I were there I would definitely want her as my trainer. Yeah, she seemes like a major b----, but she gets resutls. How 'bout the season with sweetie Kim Lyons? Jillian came in with her underdog team and kicked their a$$es. Kim is now doing some training for the Dr. Phil show.

My kid kept complaining about the orange team the whole time. I hope they go soon.

The pink team - Wow, that daughter is really pretty. She's gonna be smokin' hot when she loses the weight.

[laria]

I looooove Jillian. If I were there I would definitely want her as my trainer. Yeah, she seemes like a major b----, but she gets resutls. How 'bout the season with sweetie Kim Lyons? Jillian came in with her underdog team and kicked their a$$es. Kim is now doing some training for the Dr. Phil show.
The couples season was really the first season that I watched, and I started watching the week that Jenn got kicked out... so a little ways in. :)

I know she's a good trainer, I just know I would not respond to her style as much as Bob's.

[Dssturbo1]

wonder how the couple from Houma, La made it through Hurricane Hanna.

[Havana Brown]

I think Colleen is going to look like Kirsten Dunst when she loses weight.

I thought it was the right move to send gray home. I think later on they would have posed more of a thread than a woman and an older man who can only exercise 30 mins a day. And boy would I be pissed at that orange team for voting against them. They should have stayed true to their word. The rest of the teams would have voted them off anyway.

I can't stand how they all act like it's a love fest.


IT'S A COMPETITION PEOPLE!!!

[Butcher Girl]

I think Colleen is going to look like Kirsten Dunst when she loses weight.

So funny you should say that! I told my husband I think she'll look a lot like Renee Witherspoon when she's done losing her weight...:D

And boy would I be pissed at that orange team for voting against them. They should have stayed true to their word. The rest of the teams would have voted them off anyway.

I agree - I think Orange could have stayed true to their word and the Grey team likely would have gone home anyway...Orange could have kept their somewhat honorable reputation in tact for the rest of their time on the ranch, but I doubt anyone will trust them now...:down:

Was anyone else as steamed as I was at Mr. Brown for getting uppity with Mr. Red about the voting? He barks to Mr. Red "well, why don't you go thell them [Grey team] to their face that you're gonna vote for them, huh?" I didn't exactly Mr. Brown sprinting off to Yellow's room to tell them he was voting to send them home, either...what a bully. :rolleyes:

[Havana Brown]

So funny you should say that! I told my husband I think she'll look a lot like Renee Witherspoon when she's done losing her weight...:D



Reese Witherspoon. I think that's what I meant to say. :o

[Butcher Girl]

Oops, Reese Witherspoon, thank you! :) Shows how much I follow the celebrities...:p

[USAFSSO]

...

Was anyone else as steamed as I was at Mr. Brown for getting uppity with Mr. Red about the voting? He barks to Mr. Red "well, why don't you go thell them [Grey team] to their face that you're gonna vote for them, huh?" I didn't exactly Mr. Brown sprinting off to Yellow's room to tell them he was voting to send them home, either...what a bully. :rolleyes:


I am expecting Brown to go next. He's a real pain. He even pulls an attitude on the one on one interviews.

[IJustLikeTivo]

So, they sent the right person home but I'm thrilled that he was able to get his act together at home and stay on the plan. If he continues buy the final, he'll be doing really well. I think it's no exaggeration to say this show may save his life.

[gchance]

My SP for The Shield was set up to record all episodes because of some of the crap they pulled a while back... well guess what? Yup, I missed the first hour of TBL. I still haven't watched it, but it was really, truly annoying. It's fixed now, but watch me miss first run episodes of The Shield!

Grr.

Greg

[JFriday]

I was glad to see he stayed with it. I was actually surprised he did. I can't beleive every season it seems like they have an obese cop. Don't these departments have physical standards? There is no way he could be an effective cop in the shape he was.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

I use the podcast feed with Juice and have for a couple of years. It works fine. My only complaint is that it gets the whole Sunday schedule instead of just the two shows I want; Jillian and Leo.

tkIn case you don't have it already, here is a link to Leo's show without all the other KFI stuff. http://leoville.tv/podcasts/kfi.xml

[IJustLikeTivo]

In case you don't have it already, here is a link to Leo's show without all the other KFI stuff. http://leoville.tv/podcasts/kfi.xml

Leo is easy, he posts his via itunes. I just can't seem to get a feed for just Jillian.

[USAFSSO]

If for some reason you miss it, it is replayed a few time on Fine Living Network.

[gchance]

Thanks, USAFSSO. So that's what FLIVING is. :) I kept wondering how to Flive my life.

Greg

[pendragn]

I just watched this week's show. Did that seem weird to anyone else? Have they ever voted an individual off while the teams were still together? How are they going to handle the team challenges. To me it seemed like the producers did that to give him a graceful exit while allowing the daughter to stay a little longer.

tk

[laria]

I just watched this week's show. Did that seem weird to anyone else? Have they ever voted an individual off while the teams were still together? How are they going to handle the team challenges. To me it seemed like the producers did that to give him a graceful exit while allowing the daughter to stay a little longer.

Yes, that totally seemed rigged to me.

[laria]

I was glad to see he stayed with it. I was actually surprised he did. I can't beleive every season it seems like they have an obese cop. Don't these departments have physical standards? There is no way he could be an effective cop in the shape he was.

I thought that they said at the beginning when they were showing his background that he trains new people and stuff. I don't think that he's out patrolling the streets. IIRC, he mentioned something about being embarassed that the new cops see him the way he was.

[bareyb]

/subscribe.

Not much to say about the show yet, but I do agree that the trainers push the newbies too hard. I could never work with either one of them, because I wouldn't allow them to injure me. That would probably piss them off, but the fact is, they do a lot of dangerous things with these people. Jumping up and down from the floor to the top of a bench over and over comes to mind. That's about the stupidest exercise I've ever seen for a newcomer. Just begging to blow out somebody's ankles, knees or back. Every season, they injure people and then the people have to workout at half speed. Some of them never seem to recover until they get home. Counter productive if you ask me. Still, it IS a a TV show, so I guess that's what is expected.

I haven't picked a favorite or a least favorite yet. I need a couple of more weeks to see how they do. I'm not a huge fan of Heba so far though... But you never know...

One thing I did like, was that they didn't allow the contestants to vote off the person. Simply went with the yellow line. This prevents the other losers from kicking off the best and most motivated people. I've always hated that aspect of the show. The people in the worst shape and who are losing the least amount of weight, try to kick off the people who are trying hard and doing well. I'd love to see that power taken away from the losers. There's gotta be a better way than that... :p

[IJustLikeTivo]

Yep, Heba gets on my nerves a lot.

I agree about some of what they do. There are ways to make people fit without injuring them.

But, I do have to say that almost always when pushed, people find that they can do much more than they think. Left alone, most of them would hardly work out at all. Look at what happened on the trip. They could have gotten a great workout by walking hard but mostly then just wandered along.

They need to learn to work hard. I know you teach GX and I bet people work harder that way than on an individual basis. I know I ride harder in spin class than I do when I ride at home.

My trainer said the other day that what you think you can do limits what you will try to do. You need to be pushed sometimes to find out what the real limits are.

[gchance]

Yep, Heba gets on my nerves a lot.

Last week my wife and I were watching and Heba started crying. She looked at me and said, "There's one every season." She's talking about a person who blubbers all the time. :) Last season it was Mark.

Greg

[bareyb]

Yep, Heba gets on my nerves a lot.

I agree about some of what they do. There are ways to make people fit without injuring them.

But, I do have to say that almost always when pushed, people find that they can do much more than they think. Left alone, most of them would hardly work out at all. Look at what happened on the trip. They could have gotten a great workout by walking hard but mostly then just wandered along.

They need to learn to work hard. I know you teach GX and I bet people work harder that way than on an individual basis. I know I ride harder in spin class than I do when I ride at home.

My trainer said the other day that what you think you can do limits what you will try to do. You need to be pushed sometimes to find out what the real limits are.

Having lived through two back surgeries I am probably a bit more focused on preventing injury than most. Plus that fact that I'm 50 years old and am still doing a lot of cardio. The last thing I need is an injury. I'm also one who pushes himself pretty hard without any help. I do agree that people can benefit from being pushed hard. I try to push my students in my classes. On the other hand, I make my class as safe as I possibly can. I just think sometimes Jillian and Bob get a little too fast and loose on the stuff they make people do. Especially people who for the most part haven't exercised in months or years. The treadmill and weights stuff is fine. It's some of the other stuff they make them do that makes me cringe a little. :p

[laria]

One thing I did like, was that they didn't allow the contestants to vote off the person. Simply went with the yellow line. This prevents the other losers from kicking off the best and most motivated people. I've always hated that aspect of the show. The people in the worst shape and who are losing the least amount of weight, try to kick off the people who are trying hard and doing well. I'd love to see that power taken away from the losers. There's gotta be a better way than that... :p

But they always have to choose between the worst two of the week. :confused:

I know that they try to get rid of the strong people if for some reason they fall below the yellow line, but the best way to be a strong competitor and not get voted out is to be like Ali last season (after she came back)... don't fall below the yellow line. :)

[Butcher Girl]

Last week my wife and I were watching and Heba started crying. She looked at me and said, "There's one every season." She's talking about a person who blubbers all the time. :) Last season it was Mark.

I noticed that during the camping trip where everyone was sitting around on Colleen's birthday saying what a great gal she was and it came Heba's turn to say something inspiring, I thought it sounded forced and fake. I think her hubby is hilarious, though...almost makes it worth it to keem them on!

Brown team is seriously rubbing me the wrong way...did you see that @#$%-eating grin on Mrs. Brown's face during the last weigh-in? Jeez, have some compassion and humility, ferchrissakes! They have had NOTHING positive to say to/about eachother/anyone. I hope they go next. :mad:

[bareyb]

But they always have to choose between the worst two of the week. :confused:

I know that they try to get rid of the strong people if for some reason they fall below the yellow line, but the best way to be a strong competitor and not get voted out is to be like Ali last season (after she came back)... don't fall below the yellow line. :)

Not sure what the remedy would be, I just said there has to be a better way. :)

[EvilMidniteBombr]

There's one thing that doesn't seem to get mentioned when talking about Bob and Jillian pushing the contestants too hard. They are trying to lose the maximum amount of weight in a small amount of time. They don't have time to play nice and sweet. Bob and Jillian are there to help the contestants lose weight and live healthy. The more weight the contestants lose, the longer they can stay on the ranch thus the more weight they can lose. If either Bob or Jillian doesn't push them to the point of a break down then that contestant is most likely going to be below the yellow line and at risk for being sent home.

[mattack]

Left alone, most of them would hardly work out at all. Look at what happened on the trip. They could have gotten a great workout by walking hard but mostly then just wandered along.

I have never been there, and obviously don't know how many trails down to the bottom there are, but watching it, my first reaction was -- try to find one of the official trails to the bottom and walk down it then back up... that would be a hell of a lot of exercise.

[Butcher Girl]

My thoughts on this week's episode(s):

1. Jillian = blah blah blah with the psych talk - a) she is not a therapist or a doctor [her mom is, but she's not], and b) most of her advice only applies specifically to the person she's giving it to on the show...what a boring, embarassing, sad waste of time.

2. Trapeze challenge = most boring challenge EVER. Like watching grass grow. It's probably a lot harder than it looks, but still.

3. Didn't Heba say again and again at the elimination table that they weren't in it for the $$, that "some other teams might be here for the money, but we're not" - wow, well for someone not that interested in money, you sure were quick to tell Ali to "put [Ed's] name on the check" for the $100k at-home prize. And which team was she referring to? I'm pretty sure they're all there to lose weight, get healthy AND win some money.

[JFriday]

Being on TV has gone to Jillian's head, I can't stand her anymore, bring back the blonde.

[gchance]

My thoughts on this week's episode(s):

1. Jillian = blah blah blah with the psych talk - a) she is not a therapist or a doctor [her mom is, but she's not], and b) most of her advice only applies specifically to the person she's giving it to on the show...what a boring, embarassing, sad waste of time.

Isn't that the point? She's not talking to us, she's talking to them. In the end, the show's about the contestants. She doesn't claim to be a therapist.

2. Trapeze challenge = most boring challenge EVER. Like watching grass grow. It's probably a lot harder than it looks, but still.

While watching the challenge and listening to Alison Sweeney try to make it interesting, I turned to my wife and asked, "Did she talk like this for almost two hours?" Gee whiz.

3. Didn't Heba say again and again at the elimination table that they weren't in it for the $$, that "some other teams might be here for the money, but we're not" - wow, well for someone not that interested in money, you sure were quick to tell Ali to "put [Ed's] name on the check" for the $100k at-home prize. And which team was she referring to? I'm pretty sure they're all there to lose weight, get healthy AND win some money.

I don't think she was referring to any team in particular, it was more a general statement. She was also trying to sound positive by making a little joke about him winning.

I will say this, though, he kicked as much ass as Jerry on his own! If all the eliminated contestants keep going this way, it's going to be quite a finale.

Being on TV has gone to Jillian's head, I can't stand her anymore, bring back the blonde.

After the filming for the "incident" was over, on Jillian's radio show she apologized publicly to the contestants involved and to the viewers, ahead of time, ending it with, "I suppose after this there's going to be a lot of people out there who don't like me."

You really don't remember Kim all that well, do you? She was trying to do an imitation of Jillian and failed, miserably. At the end of the season as all her contestants started dropping off like flies, instead of pushing them, motivating them, she just sat and told them one by one how she didn't understand what their problem was. When it was down to B at the end, and he was struggling with not eating enough, rather than look at the numbers with him, she just sat there staring at the printouts, shaking her head. Kim Lyons was awful.

Back to Jillian losing it. I don't blame her in the least bit. They did absolutely nothing at the Grand Canyon when the trainers were gone, did virtually nothing while the 24-hour thing was going on, and WHINED about it while they were gone (even though Jillian wasn't aware of it at the time). THEN they told her they were "warming up" after having a full day to work out as much as they wanted. When she called them on it, Amy stood back there being a little b***h, blowing her little kiss at Jillian.

Bob would have lost it just as badly. He puts up a good front, but when he's pissed, he's PISSED.

Greg

[EvilMidniteBombr]

Being on TV has gone to Jillian's head, I can't stand her anymore, bring back the blonde.
Really? What was she like before she was on TV?

[Butcher Girl]

So far, everyone that's gone home looks great - totally agree, Ed kicked butt and looks fabulous, so does Jerry and Tom and LT. I am so happy for all of them.

I'm not saying that getting to the psychological root of the problem isn't important, but it's not the reason I watch this show, and I find it sad and embarassing that these peoples' personal problems are hashed out in front of America with someone who is not a professional psychologist.

I agree, Kim Lyons was rubbish - but Jillian's getting less "real" and less fun to watch with each season...I know this is partially due to how the producers want her to act, so I only partially fault her for this.

I used to really love the challenges and the competitive dynamic between the teams and the creative workouts the trainers used to do - this season, though, seems to be a snoozer so far...

I thought the brown team either a) got a much more flattering edit than last week, or b) realized that their facial end-zone dances during challenges/weigh-ins weren't gaining them any popularity.

[Jayjoans]

Jillian is horrible. I don't care why she does it, don't care how she does it, don't care if it "works" or not. It seems her goal is to get people to cry, then she proclaims some sort of breakthrough. Try it, when she comes on the show for a psychoanalysis, hit FF once......when you see the person start to cry, hit play. End of psychoanalysis, the show resumes.

ANYBODY that uses language like that loses my respect. Especially while "motivating".

[bareyb]

I don't know... I kind of like Jillian and you certainly can't argue with her results. Her teams have consistently out performed Bob's teams. No matter what the makeup of the teams have been. Even people that nobody wanted! She brings out the best in people and that's not easy to do. Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an Omelette and sometimes you have to piss people off and tell them the truth even if they don't want to hear it at the time. She CAN be a little tough, but often that's exactly what people need.

The proof will be how her clients feel about her at the end of the show. If history is any indicator, they will thank her later for being so tough and pushing them to succeed. They almost always say that she got them to a level they never imagined they could reach. Not sure how much success she will have this season though. This IS a pretty unmotivated group she ended up with. If she can pull out a win with this bunch, then she deserves it. :D

[Havana Brown]

I still love Jillian. I knew people wouldn't like it when she lost it, but that team deserved it. They're slacking off when she's gone. What's going to happen when they go home? I knew Heba would send Ed home, I don't that that at this point in time she's ready to do it on her own.

And wow, I never thought Ed was a good looking fella, but I was really impressed. He looked terrific!!!

Also, Amy from the red team, I can see she's gonna be a hot mama when she loses the weight.

Now I can't remember the exact wording, but on Jillian's side of the gym there's a sign on the wall that says, "Because I Said So." Jillian Michaels. :D

And Kim Lyons was horrrrrrrible. We'll see how she does on Dr. Phil.

[JFriday]

Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an Omelette

Can you make an omelette without breaking the eggs?

[gchance]

When Brady gets thin, will he be able to speak properly?

Greg

[IJustLikeTivo]

Ok, something is wrong with the numbers.

The black team always took their picture together. They got 162 pts. 162/6 = 27 pictures at 6 pts per pic. if they took one at the top and one at the bottom and the last one was at the bottom how did they end up with an odd number? Also, if the collectively hiked 81 miles that means they hiked 3 miles for each picture which means they were only walking .6 miles each way. Way less than they made it look like.

I'm not to the end yet but I know this. Heba is an idiot and I hope they lose and kick her ass out.

[USAFSSO]

Don't like Heba and vindictive/controlling nature. Ed was kicked off the show by her, and it was his fault for hitting the big goose egg last week. But it is a game.

[Butcher Girl]

Yeah, it's official - I can't STAND Heba...she's gone all power-hungry and clearly has the wrong attitude...had to laugh when she was standing there making the teams and threw out the snotty comment to Phil "you completely misconstrued that I was trying to take control"...well, isn't that exactly what she did and tried to do from the very beginning of the challenge? And she cried more than Amy did and Amy had just lost her husband to the other team...wow.

This episode has me rooting for the red mom a lot more...:D I think she and Colleen are my two favorites at the moment...

Most quotable quote (walking back up the hill, exhausted): "You're having a heart attack? That's ok, I know CPR - keep going"

I take back the snoozer comment of last week - things have definitely gotten interesting...

[LlamaLarry]

And she cried more than Amy did and Amy had just lost her husband to the other team...wow.Yeah, what the hell was that about? When she burst into tears when Bob walked in I had to rewind to make sure it was Heba.

On a weird note, I thought Heba looked really pretty in the IR cam view.

[Butcher Girl]

Also, was anyone else as grossed out as I was at Heba's victory dance at the weigh in? They showed it in slow motion, and I couldn't take my eyes off of her mass of swaying belly-skin...it made me a little bit seasick. :p Or maybe I was just sick at her overt show of poor sportsmanship...

[bareyb]

How about them all agreeing to leave the challenge in the middle and go back to their rooms! I thought they were going to take a 20 minute break right there on the hill. I couldn't believe it when they cut to the next scene and some of them were back in bed! I notice they seem to have left out that little detail to Bob and Jillian... :D

[LlamaLarry]

Is this season losing weight slower than previous seasons? I am surprised to see so many small numbers and see some people only dropping 30 pounds over a month or so. Am I misremembering or are they trying to keep them to a more "normal" loss rate?

[JFriday]

How about them all agreeing to leave the challenge in the middle and go back to their rooms! I thought they were going to take a 20 minute break right there on the hill. I couldn't believe it when they cut to the next scene and some of them were back in bed! I notice they seem to have left out that little detail to Bob and Jillian... :D

It was probably smart of them with temperature at 110.

[JFriday]

Is this season losing weight slower than previous seasons? I am surprised to see so many small numbers and see some people only dropping 30 pounds over a month or so. Am I misremembering or are they trying to keep them to a more "normal" loss rate?

I commented to my wife that in previous seasons they sure had alot 10-20+ lb losses each week.

[Butcher Girl]

Originally Posted by LlamaLarry
"Is this season losing weight slower than previous seasons? I am surprised to see so many small numbers and see some people only dropping 30 pounds over a month or so. Am I misremembering or are they trying to keep them to a more "normal" loss rate?"

I read somewhere that the producers took "measures" this season to prevent or discourage water loading...perhaps that is part of it...

[bareyb]

I commented to my wife that in previous seasons they sure had alot 10-20+ lb losses each week.

We were noticing the same thing. This group this season just doesn't seem nearly as "gung-ho" as prior years. Kind of like Jillian was alluding to last week. No leaders have emerged yet. I thought Brady did well with his 20 Miles but then he only managed to lose 6 pounds... It's been strange. I thought he was going to pull a really big number after all that effort on the hill.

As for the hill. My wife and I were speculating that perhaps the producers of the show were getting a little miffed at the lack of effort and all the whining and came up with this crazy 14 hour challenge to really PUSH THEM to the next level and see what they could do. Well... That sure didn't work out. I know it was hot, but I can't see any of the prior seasons agreeing to do that. No way. I don't care how hot it was. Alli would have been there and at least tried to complete the challenge. If not just for the exercise. I doubt we'd have seen her go back to bed. There's definitely a different vibe with this bunch. Maybe it's just a slow start...

[Butcher Girl]

I can't imagine what the challenge would have been like if they hadn't taken a break - not eating breakfast, not getting enough sleep, not having any fuel in you and then being active (moreso in some cases than in others) for 14 hours straight in 111 degree temperatures? Unless they were providing food to the contestants off-camera, that seems like a setup for someone to collapse.

I was really happy to see that Shellay did so well on her own - after the episode at 24HR Fitness, I wasn't sure about her ability to self-motivate...but she looks GOOD.

[IJustLikeTivo]

We were noticing the same thing. This group this season just doesn't seem nearly as "gung-ho" as prior years. Kind of like Jillian was alluding to last week. No leaders have emerged yet. I thought Brady did well with his 20 Miles but then he only managed to lose 6 pounds... It's been strange. I thought he was going to pull a really big number after all that effort on the hill.

As for the hill. My wife and I were speculating that perhaps the producers of the show were getting a little miffed at the lack of effort and all the whining and came up with this crazy 14 hour challenge to really PUSH THEM to the next level and see what they could do. Well... That sure didn't work out. I know it was hot, but I can't see any of the prior seasons agreeing to do that. No way. I don't care how hot it was. Alli would have been there and at least tried to complete the challenge. If not just for the exercise. I doubt we'd have seen her go back to bed. There's definitely a different vibe with this bunch. Maybe it's just a slow start...

+1. I do have to say that I'm pretty impressed with how strong Brady is. To do a pull up and push ups at his weight is pretty amazing. I could never do pull ups and push ups are really hard. I need to so some weight work to improve my arms. That he can do anything like that is impressive to me.

I think they edited him really unfairly early. Lately, he's one of the few I can tolerate.

[bareyb]

I can't imagine what the challenge would have been like if they hadn't taken a break

The way I see it, if Bob and Jillian had been there, what would they have done? Gone back to bed? I somehow doubt it. 110 doesn't feel as hot here in California as it does in other places. It's dry heat. :p

[bareyb]

+1. I do have to say that I'm pretty impressed with how strong Brady is. To do a pull up and push ups at his weight is pretty amazing. I could never do pull ups and push ups are really hard. I need to so some weight work to improve my arms. That he can do anything like that is impressive to me.

I think they edited him really unfairly early. Lately, he's one of the few I can tolerate.

Brady is one of my favorites so far. If anyone is stepping up it's him. He already looks a lot leaner and stronger. :up:

[Havana Brown]

Also, was anyone else as grossed out as I was at Heba's victory dance at the weigh in? They showed it in slow motion, and I couldn't take my eyes off of her mass of swaying belly-skin...it made me a little bit seasick. :p Or maybe I was just sick at her overt show of poor sportsmanship...

I saw that and I thought if it had been me I would have been mortified, even if I was thin now!!!!

I also didn't like how Shellay kept rolling her shirt up like she was a teenager. She did it in the previous episodes. yuck. Now that she's lost the weight NOW she can do it. Maybe it was editing, but Colleen was awfully quiet this week.

Can't wait until Heba's below the yellow line. And how stoooopid to give the other team the other man!

[IJustLikeTivo]

Ok. I thought I totally hated Heba but not the one I truly hate is Brady's evil bitch wife. She is a f'ing bitch. Every word from her mouth is vile and nasty. And the crocodile tears from Heba make me want to barf. She voted not based on any logical way to win but completely based on personal animus.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

I am really getting to the point where I cannot stand Heba. Brady's wife is right up there on the list.

I am betting that Brady water loaded before the weigh in. Just so they would not win the weigh in and could vote Amy P. off the campus. I am looking for him to pull huge numbers next week.

I was sooooooo hoping that the blue team was scheming behind Heba's back and would vote her off.

[IJustLikeTivo]

I am really getting to the point where I cannot stand Heba. Brady's wife is right up there on the list.

I am betting that Brady water loaded before the weigh in. Just so they would not win the weigh in and could vote Amy P. off the campus. I am looking for him to pull huge numbers next week.

I was sooooooo hoping that the blue team was scheming behind Heba's back and would vote her off.

I too think that Brady water loaded. Way too convenient that he lost just 3 lbs.

I actually thought for a minute that Heba would stab Brady in the back. When she talked about protecting herself I figured she would get rid of him as the big threat then she soothed her ego and got ride of Amy to spite Phil. BTW, I'm not convinced that Phil ever said what Brady told the girls. I think Brady just made that all up out of thin air to cement getting Amy kicked off.

I really dislike just about all of people on the blue team this year. None of them have any redeeming qualities. Whereas I really like most of the black team.

[laria]

I have really disliked Heba and Brady's wife all along. I can't even remember her name. But this episode just showed how nasty they both are. I wanted to punch Brady's wife through the tv with all her little smirks and stupid comments.

What was that whole deal about the challenge? "Oh I didn't really think it was worth it, maybe if it was 2 lbs or something but I don't care about a video from my kids." Good to know where your kids stand in the grand scheme of things! I don't get what her deal was... a bonus is a bonus.

I was cracking up listening to them go on and on about the balance beam. They were standing like a foot over a pool of water... the way some of them were acting you'd think they were suspended over the Grand Canyon or something. :)

[gchance]

I also didn't like how Shellay kept rolling her shirt up like she was a teenager. She did it in the previous episodes. yuck. Now that she's lost the weight NOW she can do it. Maybe it was editing, but Colleen was awfully quiet this week.

I forgot to comment on this last week, but all the women on the show tend to do this. I can understand why, which makes me wonder why they don't just give them tanks/armless/muscle shirts to begin with. That's another oddity with the show, why don't they give the contestants synthetic shirts to wear? I don't know if you guys have done much heavy cardio, but cotton shirts are like wearing chain mail when they're soaked with sweat. I can do so much more with synthetics than with cotton.

Ok. I thought I totally hated Heba but not the one I truly hate is Brady's evil bitch wife. She is a f'ing bitch. Every word from her mouth is vile and nasty. And the crocodile tears from Heba make me want to barf. She voted not based on any logical way to win but completely based on personal animus.

+1000, put her on Survivor and see how she does. Let the contestants like Ali take her place.

I too think that Brady water loaded. Way too convenient that he lost just 3 lbs.

I actually thought for a minute that Heba would stab Brady in the back.

I was actually thinking along a different angle, the way they cut the thing seemed like maybe they were all scheming behind Heba's back to get her off. Sadly that wasn't the case.

I have really disliked Heba and Brady's wife all along. I can't even remember her name. But this episode just showed how nasty they both are. I wanted to punch Brady's wife through the tv with all her little smirks and stupid comments.

Oh yeah, and there was the one comment she made, something along the lines of, "They only want to lose weight, which can be noble". Can be noble? Her goal is to get the money and if she loses weight along the way that's a bonus. I'm glad Bob called her out, even just a tad, this week after the challenge. She needs more than that though. Hopefully she got a bit of hers during the last chance workout. :p

What was that whole deal about the challenge? "Oh I didn't really think it was worth it, maybe if it was 2 lbs or something but I don't care about a video from my kids." Good to know where your kids stand in the grand scheme of things! I don't get what her deal was... a bonus is a bonus.

Bob's comment was hilarious, about even if the prize was a pack of gum, you give it your all.

Greg

[Havana Brown]

I was cracking up when Bob did Amy's P's Miss South Carolina imitation. :D

When did Vicky become such a b*tch? Hate her and Heba. I was sooo hoping Heba would backstab Brady. If she WERE smart she would have. Brady could possibly win it all.

I also laughed that Vicky wasn't interested in the home videos. I'm glad it was a live webcam instead of videos. Take that Vicky!

[Butcher Girl]

I was cracking up when Bob did Amy's P's Miss South Carolina imitation. :D

OMG, my husband and I were both in STITCHES!!

I am so sad to see Amy P go...she was one of my two faves...I hope they allow a player from home to come back and it's her and she kicks the crap out of Heba and Vicky...that is, if they're still around by then. Amy P didn't have a mean thing to say to anyone (except the one time she called Heba a bitch in a fit of anger, which I can't really blame her for). Even when she knew she was on the way out, when she futiley voted for Brady (the obvious biggest threat) she said "it's nothing personal, I think they're all great" even after the way the terrible trio alienated her and her husband - she has more class in her pinkie nail than Heba, Vicky and Brady could ever wish to have put together. No matter how much weight those three lose, they will always be ugly until they change their selfish, shallow ways. :mad:

Colleen was awesome in calling out the blue team's pathetic attempt to psych out the black team during the challenge...what a bunch of sore losers for a group that thought the prize was lame anyway...they could have cheered the other team on if they didn't care about winning. But that's just not the spirit of the blue team - they're more of a sour-grapes bunch of haters. :down: Except for Amy formerly-known-as-purple, I haven't seen her participating too much in the unsportmanly (or unsportswomanly) behaviour, but it could just be editing. I believe she did participate in the heckling during the challenge, though...be careful, Amy.

I only hope that by some miracle twist from the Producer Gods, the other Amy wins BLOTW next week and the blue team loses the weigh in and they are forced to turn on eachother, though I know the chances are slim since I'm quite sure Brady CHEATED and water-loaded this week. There just isn't anyone else who could "lose more weight than the entire other team combined". I wish Amy formerly-known-as-purple could have seen her opportunity and water-loaded too, just to unseat Brady next week. I don't advocate that two wrongs make a right, but c'mon... :rolleyes:

[DaveBogart]

I just watched the latest episode. Did I hear right? During the challenge for the vidoe from home somebody took a dump in the water?

[gchance]

Yuck, Dave. I don't remember that at all. Thank goodness. :)

Greg

[USAFSSO]

I'm starting to think there is no one good on the blue team. I'm glad they are finally dropping the teams and going to individuals.

[laria]

I'm starting to think there is no one good on the blue team.
I don't mind Amy. But Heba, Ed, and Vicki can leave any time now. Heba is such a drama queen and Vicki is just evil!

[USAFSSO]

I don't mind Amy. But Heba, Ed, and Vicki can leave any time now. Heba is such a drama queen and Vicki is just evil!

I like Amy C. to, but she is getting sucked in to the blue team "Vicki/Heba" attitude. At least now the teams are split up and they have to fend for themselves.

So we have to wait 2 weeks for another episode, due to another Biggest Looser Contest. :rolleyes: NBC has enough networks they could have moved it for the one night.

[IJustLikeTivo]

I don't mind Amy. But Heba, Ed, and Vicki can leave any time now. Heba is such a drama queen and Vicki is just evil!

And they lied right to bob's face. No way undereating caused just a 3 lbs loss. He had to have water loaded. Otherwise the 13 lbs this week makes no sense. They are long past the time of weight loss over 10 lbs. That can happen the first couple of weeks but after that it just doesn't happen. The only other time it has happened this late in the game was after someone else did it. ( can't recall who, some man)

The denied it and denied it, then just when it was clear Bob was going to say they lied the threw in the "Brady hasn't been eating" and while that can affect weight loss, not to the extend it had here. He lied, she lied, they are both awful people.

I also think they whole confrontation with Phil was manufactured out of whole cloth. Heba has nothing to feel slighted about. She never once heard Phil say anything. I think Brady just made it up and she's buying into it completely. Either way, having it out in public was just completely bogus.

[mcb08]

snip

The denied it and denied it, then just when it was clear Bob was going to say they lied the threw in the "Brady hasn't been eating" and while that can affect weight loss, not to the extend it had here. He lied, she lied, they are both awful people.

/snip
Not to nitpick, but would they not be awful people if they had said to Bob..."Okay, we admit it...Brady waterloaded so we could get rid of Amy"? I can't stand Vicki, and I think that Brady is just whipped, but this is a game, and right now, they're playing it hard.

[mattack]

I've wondered this for a while -- and some of the voiceover/confessional sort of implied it. One of the contestants said something like "Bob said 'they always weigh the <somethingest>(*) person first'".

Has anyone read in any background stories about the show if they weigh the people before the weigh-ins, and then order the weigh-ins to be most dramatic? (It certainly doesn't seem to be done in editing, since you see them mention who's coming up next.)

For example, obviously they re-order the votes on Survivor for maximum drama.


(*) lightest or heaviest, I forget.

[gchance]

Well, in the case of TBL, the producers know what they weigh going in (the big scale is a mockup, the real scale is used ahead of time). It doesn't really matter who goes first, the outcome is still the same.

Greg

[EvilMidniteBombr]

I was really hoping the rest of the Blue team would gain weight and completely nullify Brady's 13lb loss.

As for what Phillip told Amy and Brady, I think the conversation happened. Then Brady & Amy blew it out of proportion. Then they got into Heba's ear and fed her ego,

Did anyone else notice how Heba thinks she is the leader of the Blue team? She can't stop talking about how "I did this" or "I did that".

[pendragn]

As for what Phillip told Amy and Brady, I think the conversation happened. Then Brady & Amy blew it out of proportion. Then they got into Heba's ear and fed her ego,
The conversation happened. Phillip admitted as much and he never denied it during the confrontation or say "What are you talking about?" I think you're right though, Brady and Vicki blew it out of proportion to get Heba boiling.

Did anyone else notice how Heba thinks she is the leader of the Blue team? She can't stop talking about how "I did this" or "I did that".
Oh yeah. Man that is annoying. I really, really don't like her at all. She is a terrible person.

tk

[IJustLikeTivo]

Not to nitpick, but would they not be awful people if they had said to Bob..."Okay, we admit it...Brady waterloaded so we could get rid of Amy"? I can't stand Vicki, and I think that Brady is just whipped, but this is a game, and right now, they're playing it hard.

No, they'd be awful but at least they'd be honest. I can understand doing it but as Mr Nixon found out, a cover up never works.

[IJustLikeTivo]

The conversation happened. Phillip admitted as much and he never denied it during the confrontation or say "What are you talking about?" I think you're right though, Brady and Vicki blew it out of proportion to get Heba boiling.

Oh yeah. Man that is annoying. I really, really don't like her at all. She is a terrible person.

tk

My guess is that Phil said something that he felt was innocuous and Brady and Vicky conspired to make Heba think he said something entirely different. The look on Phil's face pretty much indicated that he had no idea what Heba was upset about. I'd bet that he tried to get Brady to vote out Heba as that made sense. I think the rest of what Brady attributed to Phil was made up.

[Butcher Girl]

Here's a link to a post-elimination interview with Phil where he explains the conversation with Brady, as well as the confrontation with Heba - pretty interesting.

http://tvwatch.people.com/2008/10/29/biggest-losers-phillip-shows-off-a-34-inch-waist/

I definitely think he looks better with the "cul-de-sac" (as he so cutely calls it) shaved off, but he had better keep going to the beach and get a decent tan on that melon. :D

[Havana Brown]

Oh yeah. Man that is annoying. I really, really don't like her at all. She is a terrible person.

tk

But Phil doesn't deserve having a great person like her as a friend. :rolleyes:

And they totally sucked Amy in to their venomous attitude.

[IJustLikeTivo]

But Phil doesn't deserve having a great person like her as a friend. :rolleyes:

And they totally sucked Amy in to their venomous attitude.

With friends like that.......

Sadly, Amy is being corrupted by their evil cabal.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

But Phil doesn't deserve having a great person like her as a friend. :rolleyes:

And they totally sucked Amy in to their venomous attitude.
I couldn't believe that she said that.

[pendragn]

But Phil doesn't deserve having a great person like her as a friend. :rolleyes:

I do agree with her though, Phil doesn't deserve a friend like her. :D

tk

[justapixel]

I work with a woman like Heba. Her inflections and tone of voice are even the same. As is the drama.

I feel for anybody who has to live with a person like that. They have such low self-esteem that the only way they can feel good about themselves to to create drama around them and try to get people to choose sides.

If they choose her, she feels better about herself. If they don't, or stay neutral, then she hates them and feels betrayed and blames them for her own internal bad feelings.

She can reach her weight loss goals and become as hot as Halle Berry, and she'll still be a person of no self-worth.

[IJustLikeTivo]

She can reach her weight loss goals and become as hot as Halle Berry, and she'll still be a person of no self-worth.

Truth.

BTW, the biggest loser was featured on Oprah. Interestingly. so far last years folks are doing well.

A few from earlier years have gained some weight one has gained at least 100. Matt, the winner of year 2 has gained about 50 lbs but still is over 100 lbs down from his start. He and Suzie just had their second son. She's gained some from the pregnancy but plans to go back on the diet in a few weeks.

[coolpenguin]

Truth.

BTW, the biggest loser was featured on Oprah. Interestingly. so far last years folks are doing well.

A few from earlier years have gained some weight one has gained at least 100. Matt, the winner of year 2 has gained about 50 lbs but still is over 100 lbs down from his start. He and Suzie just had their second son. She's gained some from the pregnancy but plans to go back on the diet in a few weeks.

funny- i just started this episode as i clicked on this thread.

[gchance]

Truth.

BTW, the biggest loser was featured on Oprah. Interestingly. so far last years folks are doing well.

Yeah, Jillian was complaining about it on her radio show right after they were on. First she was talking about how TBL had been on the air for 5 years and it took Oprah this long to "discover" it. The other thing she complained about is that during the show, Oprah only addressed her directly once, hehe.

A few from earlier years have gained some weight one has gained at least 100. Matt, the winner of year 2 has gained about 50 lbs but still is over 100 lbs down from his start. He and Suzie just had their second son. She's gained some from the pregnancy but plans to go back on the diet in a few weeks.

One thing Jillian has discussed are the percentages of people in general who lose weight and keep it off. It's pretty widely documented that about 95% of people who lose significant weight gain it back (I think we had a discussion about it here fairly recently). With TBL, it's more like 70%, so their success rate is a bit better.

What's sad, of course, is bringing up the failures for TBL only reduces the effectiveness of the show. It's the same with the press promoting how many people fail at long-term weight loss, it's as if they want people to consistently fail.

Greg

[bareyb]

Well it looks like Election Coverage is going wall to wall. Does anyone know if "The Biggest Loser" and/or "Dancing with the Stars" will be be re-shown on another network or on "On Demand" with Comcast?

[laria]

Well it looks like Election Coverage is going wall to wall. Does anyone know if "The Biggest Loser" and/or "Dancing with the Stars" will be be re-shown on another network or on "On Demand" with Comcast?

Re-shown? They weren't scheduled to be shown tonight. :) Biggest Loser is back next week and DWTS results are tomorrow.

[gchance]

At the end of last week's TBL they said it'd be back "in two weeks". You're safe. :)

Greg

[bareyb]

Re-shown? They weren't scheduled to be shown tonight. :) Biggest Loser is back next week and DWTS results are tomorrow.

At the end of last week's TBL they said it'd be back "in two weeks". You're safe. :)

Greg

Cool. Thank you! I must have missed that last part. :up:

[JFriday]

The biggest LOSER will air tonight, once the results are known. One candidate will concede to the other. :D

[Butcher Girl]

For those of you (like myself) who can't wait another week, there's a 10-minute preview of next week's episode on Oprah's website.

For those of you who don't like spoilers, I wouldn't recommend it.

[Havana Brown]

A few from earlier years have gained some weight one has gained at least 100

Do you know who they were?

[Butcher Girl]

Do you know who they were?

I think Eric (the blue team winner from Season 4 maybe?) gained back almost all of his weight (I think he lost over a hundred pounds)...Matt (of Matt & Suzie - season 3?) gained back about 50...

I know Eric is/was a chef - it must be incredibly hard to overcome the temptations of a restaurant environment every single day.

[IJustLikeTivo]

I think Eric (the blue team winner from Season 4 maybe?) gained back almost all of his weight (I think he lost over a hundred pounds)...Matt (of Matt & Suzie - season 3?) gained back about 50...

I know Eric is/was a chef - it must be incredibly hard to overcome the temptations of a restaurant environment every single day.

No, they showed him and it wasn't Eric. BTW, Eric lost over 200 by the end. He wasn't a chef, he owned a Deli.

I can't remember who it was but he was a brown haired guy.

BTW, on Wikipedia, it say Kim Lyons will return next year. WTF, she was awful!

[gchance]

BTW, on Wikipedia, it say Kim Lyons will return next year. WTF, she was awful!

That's old information, unless Jillian's on it with her. Jillian's talked about S7 on her show a lot, she's basically been saying that of all the ones she's been involved in, this is her favorite. She hasn't mentioned Kim Lyons, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

They're about two months into filming Season 7, it's going to air immediately following Season 6.

Greg

[IJustLikeTivo]

Whew! That makes me happier.

[IJustLikeTivo]

I'm about 40 minutes into the episode and I'm not sure I can watch this anymore.

If I were there I would have taken a swing at Brady, Heba and the wicked bitch of the west. There is no place in my world for people who are that freaking evil.

How does she feel so damn entitled? It frankly disgusts me so much I might stop watching.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

I really am getting sick of the entire Blue Team. The Bitch Twins are definitely ridiculous with their smug attitudes.

I was really hoping that Brady would take a swipe at Phil. Hoping that it would cause Brady to be kicked off the show. Oh well.

[CorgiMom28]

The "Bitchy Twins" were really bad tonight... I wanted to reach my hands thru the TV when Heba made that smirk behind Bob's back when he told her to mind her own business in the gym.

Loved the end... especially with the smug look on Brady's face. Can't wait to see next week!

[IJustLikeTivo]

I really am getting sick of the entire Blue Team. The Bitch Twins are definitely ridiculous with their smug attitudes.

I was really hoping that Brady would take a swipe at Phil. Hoping that it would cause Brady to be kicked off the show. Oh well.

Sweet justice..... I may be able to watch another week.

Now let's see what a lunatic bitch Vicky becomes without her protector. Amy is gonna catch a raft of crap from her for that. But she was right. Brady was the biggest threat and Ed needs to follow.

[Unseen Llama]

The wife and I couldn't stop smiling at the end of this week. We practically gave each other hi-5's! :) Justice is sweet!

[mrdazzo7]

Amy C from out of nowhere, man... She would have been a moron to vote for Michele out of some illusion of "blue pride"... Brady is a way bigger threat and she realized that. Anything to bring that pain in the ass Heba down a peg is good in my book. The only bad thing about this week is that the one thing that makes Heba even more unbearable -- Ed -- is now back.

Thank God blue got taken down a peg. I'm sure they're all good people in real life but their whole "All we need is one black person to go under and they're gone" smug ass attitude was unbearable. Anytime someone KNOWS they're gonna win is when I want them to lose if only to remind them that they're not freaking invincible. I hate the arrogance they were showing.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

Sweet justice..... I may be able to watch another week.

Now let's see what a lunatic bitch Vicky becomes without her protector. Amy is gonna catch a raft of crap from her for that. But she was right. Brady was the biggest threat and Ed needs to follow.
The wife and I were begging Amy to vote for Brady. :) I'll bet Vicky pooped a brick when Amy revealed her vote.

Did anyone see the motivational note taped to the wall? I'm thinking that Amy really should consider asking Jillian if she can train with her.

[laria]

I really think that NBC was doing everything they could to produce that drama at the end, with Allison kinda calling Vicky out on her bitchiness and the whole "we're going to vote right now" stuff.

I was really really hoping Amy would go through with it, but wasn't sure if she really would. I hope she doesn't pay for it next week, though.

[refried]

I'm very glad that Amy C turned. There's still a chance that it could turn into an all blue finale, but at least that chance has lessened and I'll watch another week. If it still turns all blue, I won't bother watching the rest of the season.

That note they previewed was pretty nasty. I can't wait to see Bob and Jillian's reactions to the elimination. I hope the black team and pick up Amy C and get her focused on the week so they can take out another blue team member.

[USAFSSO]

I was about to cancel the SP if the blue team got their way. :up::up::up: To Amy C, on seeing what is coming up. The two couples on blue are just mean people. I understand this is a game, but the priority is to get healthy. Vicky needs some mental health help.

Did they ever show Phil being they way Heba says he was being, or did she just get everyone to think the way she wanted?

[Justy Mees]

I'm SO happy Brady is gone. Now to get rid of that witch Vicky. I'd be SO ashamed if I was related to either Brady or Vicky. Horrible people. Vicky is spiteful and mean to the core. Watching her smirk and take joy from other's sadness made me want to reach in the tv and smack her. Brady...if you're reading this...and I hope you are...you need to know that you are the most hated couple on tv and Vicky wins hands down as the MOST HATED person EVER on Biggest Loser. How proud are you of that? You'll probably be booed at the finale. hahaha

[sharkster]

I'm SO happy Brady is gone. Now to get rid of that witch Vicky. I'd be SO ashamed if I was related to either Brady or Vicky. Horrible people. Vicky is spiteful and mean to the core. Watching her smirk and take joy from other's sadness made me want to reach in the tv and smack her. Brady...if you're reading this...and I hope you are...you need to know that you are the most hated couple on tv and Vicky wins hands down as the MOST HATED person EVER on Biggest Loser. How proud are you of that? You'll probably be booed at the finale. hahaha

ITA! That Vicky must go next. What a bwitch, hateful, and ugly person she is! I hope everybody else turns against her next week so she can be on the other end of the gang mentality. Good for Amy voting across the 'team' line. I had a lot of respect for her doing that.

[debtoine]

Add me to the chorus of happy people now that Brady is gone. I was so disappointed Stacy didn't win the challenge, but ultimately it worked out for the black team.

I'd also love to see Vicky go next. She's such a vile woman.

deb

[Dssturbo1]

hell yeah, take that you punk ass bitches heba/vicki.

[IJustLikeTivo]

I'm SO happy Brady is gone. Now to get rid of that witch Vicky. I'd be SO ashamed if I was related to either Brady or Vicky. Horrible people. Vicky is spiteful and mean to the core. Watching her smirk and take joy from other's sadness made me want to reach in the tv and smack her. Brady...if you're reading this...and I hope you are...you need to know that you are the most hated couple on tv and Vicky wins hands down as the MOST HATED person EVER on Biggest Loser. How proud are you of that? You'll probably be booed at the finale. hahaha

I understand that it is a game and you want to win. But I seriously don't get why they had to be so nasty about it. Why would you gloat right in front of the black team? How does that help anything?

Nasty people suck. I think if they do eliminate all the black team, most viewers will stop watching. I have no interest in seeing Heba, Ed, or Vicky win that game.

[laria]

I don't mind Ed as much as Heba or Vicky. Even Brady is not as bad as them, although he's not great.

It was weird... this was the first time all season that I noticed Brady had braces, and then I kept noticing them all the time through the whole show.

[IJustLikeTivo]

I don't mind Ed as much as Heba or Vicky. Even Brady is not as bad as them, although he's not great.

It was weird... this was the first time all season that I noticed Brady had braces, and then I kept noticing them all the time through the whole show.

I lump Brady in cause he doesn't have the huevos to fight back when his witchy wife makes him do evil things.

[pendragn]

Did they ever show Phil being they way Heba says he was being, or did she just get everyone to think the way she wanted?

That's one question I've had all along. We've never seen Phillip do a single mean thing in the entire airing of the show. He's always got a smile on his face, and he always seems happy. Heba, Vicky and Brady have always seemed mean and spiteful. Either Heba and crew are dreaming this all up and Phillip is getting screwed, or there is some crazy editing going on.

tk

[IJustLikeTivo]

That's one question I've had all along. We've never seen Phillip do a single mean thing in the entire airing of the show. He's always got a smile on his face, and he always seems happy. Heba, Vicky and Brady have always seemed mean and spiteful. Either Heba and crew are dreaming this all up and Phillip is getting screwed, or there is some crazy editing going on.

tk

I said all along that Brady and Vicky made up the whole Phil thing. I suspect he (phil) did make some overture to see if they would turn on Heba and Brady and Vicky turned that conversation into a way to get Amy gone and then later Phil. Based on the way Phil interacts with EVERYONE else, it would be completely out of character for him to have said what Vicky/Brady claim he said.

Again, more of them lying their ass off to try and win. I always hated the competition aspect of the game and her we see that part taken to the extreme. When Vicky can't see that the person with the largest weight loss has a claim to be there, the game has lost all perspective.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

Did they ever show Phil being they way Heba says he was being, or did she just get everyone to think the way she wanted?

That's one question I've had all along. We've never seen Phillip do a single mean thing in the entire airing of the show. He's always got a smile on his face, and he always seems happy. Heba, Vicky and Brady have always seemed mean and spiteful. Either Heba and crew are dreaming this all up and Phillip is getting screwed, or there is some crazy editing going on.
tk
I don't recall them showing Phil do anything mean or mean spirited to ANY of the other players. But it seems that Heba and Vicky have had it out for him since almost the beginning of the show. Especially after Phil got busted eating the peanut butter cups during the temptation challenge for the power to rearrange the teams.

Back when Phillip approached Brady & Vicky about an alliance to turn against Heba is when things started the downward spiral for him. I don't think it was anything more than Phillip just putting feelers out to see if they would vote against Heba. Then Brady and Vicky took that opportunity to turn Phillip's inquiry into a whole new monster. They got into Heba's ear and used her animosity toward Phillip along with twisting his comments to fire her up into a rage.

I am really curious to see how things go next week. It looks like Vicky is out for blood now that her main ally is gone. I wonder how long it will be before she and Heba are at each other's throats? How sweet would it be if Vicky were to vote against Ed should he be up for elimination? I would rather see him voted off than Heba. Just to see her flip her lid. :D

[smallwonder]

I understand that it is a game and you want to win. But I seriously don't get why they had to be so nasty about it. Why would you gloat right in front of the black team? How does that help anything?

Nasty people suck. I think if they do eliminate all the black team, most viewers will stop watching. I have no interest in seeing Heba, Ed, or Vicky win that game.

I blame Bob in part for his team. He's a nice guy - too nice. There's no way I can see that Jillian would let her team get away with the crap and attitude the Blue team has generated. Her team is focused and has its eyes on the prize and they don't bother with this petty "game playing." And when Bob tries to call the Blue team on their shenanigans, he doesn't read them the riot act - he acts like a life coach when they really need a kick in the butt.

This is the worst season of TBL yet because the goal has become so perverted for half the participants. I wish they would eliminate the "Survivor tribal council" vote at the end and just kick off the person with the lowest percentage of weight loss for the week. Yeah, a consistently big gainer might go in an off-week but that's the risk you take. More likely than not, they'd get voted off as a "threat" anyway.

[justapixel]

I'm sure they're all good people in real life ....

I'm not sure of that at all. In fact, I think they are probably terrible people in real life and on TV.

Can you imagine if this was the first time you'd seen this series? I'd have deleted my SP now in disgust. What a terrible job of casting they've done.

I watch this show because I like to see people work hard to meet their goals. I watch it because the transformations are so amazing. I watch it because they generally are on the same page and support each other, even if they are in competition. I watch it because their real goal is to become healthy.

I don't watch it for cut-throat, backstabbing, cheating, nasty behavior. The blue team doesn't seem to realize what show they are on, and it's making this season very unpleasant.

I won't be watching next season if they do the same type of casting. I want to root for people to get healthy, save their lives, learn good habits. I don't enjoy sitting there wishing wish they'd eat themselves into a diabetic coma, which is what I'm hoping for now everytime I look at Heba. I would gladly give her 10 million banana puddings if it would give her a heart attack and get her off the show.

Producers, pay attention. This isn't fun this year.

[CorgiMom28]

I'm not sure of that at all. In fact, I think they are probably terrible people in real life and on TV.

Can you imagine if this was the first time you'd seen this series? I'd have deleted my SP now in disgust. What a terrible job of casting they've done.

I watch this show because I like to see people work hard to meet their goals. I watch it because the transformations are so amazing. I watch it because they generally are on the same page and support each other, even if they are in competition. I watch it because their real goal is to become healthy.

I don't watch it for cut-throat, backstabbing, cheating, nasty behavior. The blue team doesn't seem to realize what show they are on, and it's making this season very unpleasant.

I won't be watching next season if they do the same type of casting. I want to root for people to get healthy, save their lives, learn good habits. I don't enjoy sitting there wishing wish they'd eat themselves into a diabetic coma, which is what I'm hoping for now everytime I look at Heba. I would gladly give her 10 million banana puddings if it would give her a heart attack and get her off the show.

Producers, pay attention. This isn't fun this year.
Well said.

[Hot4Bo]

I'm not sure of that at all. In fact, I think they are probably terrible people in real life and on TV.

Can you imagine if this was the first time you'd seen this series? I'd have deleted my SP now in disgust. What a terrible job of casting they've done.

I watch this show because I like to see people work hard to meet their goals. I watch it because the transformations are so amazing. I watch it because they generally are on the same page and support each other, even if they are in competition. I watch it because their real goal is to become healthy.

I don't watch it for cut-throat, backstabbing, cheating, nasty behavior. The blue team doesn't seem to realize what show they are on, and it's making this season very unpleasant.

I won't be watching next season if they do the same type of casting. I want to root for people to get healthy, save their lives, learn good habits. I don't enjoy sitting there wishing wish they'd eat themselves into a diabetic coma, which is what I'm hoping for now everytime I look at Heba. I would gladly give her 10 million banana puddings if it would give her a heart attack and get her off the show.

Producers, pay attention. This isn't fun this year.

I agree with everything you've said. I do think Vicky is a million times worse than Heba though.

[laria]

Heba is a big drama queen. I think she makes up a lot of stuff in her head and turns it into maximum drama, and she's kind of whiny. I don't think she's necessarily a bad person though. I think she feeds off Brady and Vicky, too.

Vicky on the other hand... yikes. She is just mean.

[Havana Brown]

ahahahhahahahahahhahaha


Suck on that Vicky!!!

I loved it. I"m so glad Amy was smart about her decision. I'm sure Bob will be pissed (Jillian made it known that Bob says you can never vote off a team member). She made the right call for herself. The big boys need to go. Then Heba, then Vicky. I hope to have another girl Biggest Loser winner.

Oh, and Amy is really taking shape. :up:



What about that Stacy? I liked her when she was getting upset about the blue team. She took it personally. Then she was just a beast at the challenge. I would have looooved that she beat Ed. I couldn't stand Heba's screaching for Ed. That wasn't rooting him on! Stacy was awesome. I think you could see everyone's respect for her.

[USAFSSO]

I'm sure it's been done before, but can Amy move to the Black team? I don't think it will change the voting much, the blues are still one up. I guess the Black team owes her though.

[Hot4Bo]

Vicky just needs to go. I don't care what else happens as long as Vicky's gone. And she better not win the at-home prize either. She so doesn't deserve the satisfaction.

[Jayjoans]

too bad really, no matter how thin Vicky and Heba get they are still going to be ugly on the inside. Both of the husbands deserve them too.

I know our perception is largely up to the editors, but it seems Phil and his wife are genuinely likable people. Their personalities were attractive even if their bodies weren't, so now they get the bonus.

Heba/Vicky, started ugly and will stay ugly.:down:

[IJustLikeTivo]

I'm not sure of that at all. In fact, I think they are probably terrible people in real life and on TV.

I don't watch it for cut-throat, backstabbing, cheating, nasty behavior. The blue team doesn't seem to realize what show they are on, and it's making this season very unpleasant.



Vicky is emotionally damaged by years of being fat and unpopular. I expect she is using all the anger from high school and later when she was fat and marginalized. She feels in charge and she's enjoying the power. However, she is forgetting how it feels to be put down like that. I hope she'll be mortified when she sees how she acts, but I suspect she'll justify it as bad editing.


I won't be watching next season if they do the same type of casting. I want to root for people to get healthy, save their lives, learn good habits. I don't enjoy sitting there wishing wish they'd eat themselves into a diabetic coma, which is what I'm hoping for now everytime I look at Heba. I would gladly give her 10 million banana puddings if it would give her a heart attack and get her off the show.

Producers, pay attention. This isn't fun this year.

Truth. I no longer enjoy watching the game play, I want to be inspired, not disgusted.

[bareyb]

I'm not sure of that at all. In fact, I think they are probably terrible people in real life and on TV.

Can you imagine if this was the first time you'd seen this series? I'd have deleted my SP now in disgust. What a terrible job of casting they've done.

I watch this show because I like to see people work hard to meet their goals. I watch it because the transformations are so amazing. I watch it because they generally are on the same page and support each other, even if they are in competition. I watch it because their real goal is to become healthy.

I don't watch it for cut-throat, backstabbing, cheating, nasty behavior. The blue team doesn't seem to realize what show they are on, and it's making this season very unpleasant.

I won't be watching next season if they do the same type of casting. I want to root for people to get healthy, save their lives, learn good habits. I don't enjoy sitting there wishing wish they'd eat themselves into a diabetic coma, which is what I'm hoping for now everytime I look at Heba. I would gladly give her 10 million banana puddings if it would give her a heart attack and get her off the show.

Producers, pay attention. This isn't fun this year.


Truth. I no longer enjoy watching the game play, I want to be inspired, not disgusted.


I don't even know what to say about the show this year. I'm just as disgusted as everyone else is. I hope they do better next year. :down:

[Havana Brown]

stay away from the newsstands.

Michelle and her mom are on the cover of Prevention magazine. They both look great. Michelle looks small, but her mom is standing behind her and you can see these tiny toothpick legs. I think her mom might even be smaller than Michelle. I don't think they should have pout out the magazine before the show is over.

[bareyb]

stay away from the newsstands.

Michelle and her mom are on the cover of Prevention magazine. They both look great. Michelle looks small, but her mom is standing behind her and you can see these tiny toothpick legs. I think her mom might even be smaller than Michelle. I don't think they should have pout out the magazine before the show is over.

Just so you know... Spoilers show up in the notification emails as text and are not blocked. In fact, I had no idea this was a spoiler until after I'd read the email and the cat was out of the bag. Having said that, just because some people were on the cover of a magazine doesn't mean they won. I hope not anyway. I'd hate to have the ending ruined by this. :(

[Havana Brown]

Just so you know... Spoilers show up in the notification emails as text and are not blocked. In fact, I had no idea this was a spoiler until after I'd read the email and the cat was out of the bag. Having said that, just because some people were on the cover of a magazine doesn't mean they won. I hope not anyway. I'd hate to have the ending ruined by this. :(

Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't mean that I thought they won. I just think they look different on the cover than they do at this point on the show.

[laria]

Having said that, just because some people were on the cover of a magazine doesn't mean they won. I hope not anyway. I'd hate to have the ending ruined by this. :(

I thought the last show was live? We can't know if they've won until then. :)

Also, they showed that magazine cover during last week's show, which I thought was weird.

[USAFSSO]

stay away from the newsstands.

Michelle and her mom are on the cover of Prevention magazine. They both look great. Michelle looks small, but her mom is standing behind her and you can see these tiny toothpick legs. I think her mom might even be smaller than Michelle. I don't think they should have pout out the magazine before the show is over.

That particular magazine has been a weeks competition win, not overall. Usually when they get the makeovers.

[Havana Brown]

That particular magazine has been a weeks competition win, not overall. Usually when they get the makeovers.

I thought maybe I had missed them getting that win for the cover. I just thought it was odd that they show them looking the way they do before we see them achieve that point in the show.

[gchance]

They've done the Prevention Magazine thing the past 2 or 3 seasons. They usually have an episode revolving around it (as someone else mentioned, the makeover show).

I think this is one of those situations they can't help. They use Prevention for promotion, but magazines don't have sweeps. :)

Greg

[IJustLikeTivo]

Normally they do this as Greg says during the makeover show which hasn't happened yet. I don't recall seeing the magazine last week as someone said earlier.

[laria]

Normally they do this as Greg says during the makeover show which hasn't happened yet. I don't recall seeing the magazine last week as someone said earlier.

I saw it during a commercial I think, not during the actual show. It was at the tail end of a commercial, IIRC, and I caught it on the little skip-back thing that the TiVo FF does when you stop FF'ing.

[bareyb]

Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't mean that I thought they won. I just think they look different on the cover than they do at this point on the show.

Oh good! I'm glad I misunderstood. Thanks Havana. :)

[IJustLikeTivo]

You would think they could at least do math correctly.

In the quiz, they said the average woman eats 385 more calories per day and asked how many lbs that would be in a year.

Their answers were 20 lbs, 26.7 or 35.8 lbs.

If my math is right, none of those answers are correct. 385 calories per day times 365 days would be. 140,525 calories in one year or 140,525/3500 lbs which would be 40.15 lbs. Their answer was 26.7 lbs. How can they get that number?

Edited to add. It is official. Amy is an idiot. Why would you leave Vicky in the game when you know that she will absolutely, positively stab you in the back at her fist opportunity. Hell, she may be dumber alone than Dan AND Andrew on the amazing race and that's amazingly dumb.

[CorgiMom28]

Edited to add. It is official. Amy is an idiot. Why would you leave Vicky in the game when you know that she will absolutely, positively stab you in the back at her fist opportunity. Hell, she may be dumber alone than Dan AND Andrew on the amazing race and that's amazingly dumb.

+1

She's a moron.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

Dear Amy,

That is quite possibly the single most idiotic move anyone has ever made on The Biggest Loser. Thank you for subjecting us to more of the conniving bitch that is Vicky. Gee. Thanks. No, really.

Sincerely,
Everyone and their grandmother

[debtoine]

Noooooooooooooo! Amy is an idiot. I'm so sad.

deb

[USAFSSO]

Everyone was dumb. Vicky said she will not continue to lose weight at home. She works 60 hours a week and has to take care of here kids, she has no time to workout. Once I heard that I would have voted for her right then. She is only there to win the money, which she wont.

[craftassistant]

Everyone was dumb. Vicky said she will not continue to lose weight at home. She works 60 hours a week and has to take care of here kids, she has no time to workout. Once I heard that I would have voted for her right then. She is only there to win the money, which she wont.

Plus 2. I have hated Vicky and Brady for several weeks..she mentioned one night that she was there for the 250k and the 100k and that is all they wanted. She will totally gain the weight back, she has no drive except the winning of the money. The others atleast seem to be driven to improve their lives and lose weight while getting some trinkets and prizes along the road to successful weightloss.

I just watched last week's and this week's back to back. I was so ready to do a happy dance..and then Amy revolted back into her withdrawn self.

What would have been interesting was this would have been a turn for the possible best for the black team. They would have had 3 next week and 3 blue. and then Amy in the middle again.

I just can't wait for Bob and Jillian to get their teeth into this one. Vicky is going to rip Amy C to shreds. Vicky is going to oust Michelle next week for sure. Hopefully she can pull big numbers again.

[IJustLikeTivo]

Plus 2. I have hated Vicky and Brady for several weeks..she mentioned one night that she was there for the 250k and the 100k and that is all they wanted. She will totally gain the weight back, she has no drive except the winning of the money. The others atleast seem to be driven to improve their lives and lose weight while getting some trinkets and prizes along the road to successful weightloss.

Vicky is a classic user. Nothing is ever going to be her fault. If she lost this week, it would have been due to that evil bitch Michelle giving her the extra lb. Nothing she does is ever bad when she says it about other but when they say it about her, the other person is bad.

I so completely loath that woman. I wanted her out so bad. I hate the way she makes excuses. If I go home I can't lose. Crap. You can if you want to. If she was on Jillian's team, she would break. Pure and simple, she does what she needs to win and not one thing more. She has NO interest in really losing weight or improving her life and health. She wants one thing, money as if that alone will fix all her problems. My only comfort is that even if she does win, nothing good will happen for her like it has for Ali. She is just so nasty that no one will want her as a spokesman or exemplar of anything.

[gchance]

I so completely loath that woman. I wanted her out so bad. I hate the way she makes excuses. If I go home I can't lose. Crap. You can if you want to. If she was on Jillian's team, she would break. Pure and simple, she does what she needs to win and not one thing more. She has NO interest in really losing weight or improving her life and health. She wants one thing, money as if that alone will fix all her problems. My only comfort is that even if she does win, nothing good will happen for her like it has for Ali. She is just so nasty that no one will want her as a spokesman or exemplar of anything.

"Like my body?" Some companies don't care who their spokesperson is. :)

She needs to go, but I also feel she'll get hers. What completely amazes me is that she wants to be seen publicly (nationally at that) being such an awful person.

I missed the first 7 minutes of the show, what happened with the note she put on the door?

And the whole "if I go home I won't lose" thing. She works 60 hours a week? What's she doing NOW?!?! Who's watching her kids NOW?!?!? Why would that have to stop when she went home? She has no business being on the show in the first place, I think after this season we'll see some changes to the show. I've been wrong before though. Reality shows being what they are, conflict and backstabbing is the name of the game.

Greg

[pendragn]

If I was Colleen the first words out of my mouth when Amy voted for her would have been "But Vicky has been so mean to you." Vicky was so horrible to Amy and that's how Amy responds? Bad, bad decision. Vicky will kick Amy out the first chance she gets. I do wish Vicky were on Jillian's team. I would have loved to see how she held up to Jillian's tough love.

tk

[Hot4Bo]

I'm thoroughly disgusted.

[USAFSSO]

...

She needs to go, but I also feel she'll get hers. What completely amazes me is that she wants to be seen publicly (nationally at that) being such an awful person.

I missed the first 7 minutes of the show, what happened with the note she put on the door?

....

Greg

It was on the inside of Vickys bedroom door as a motivation for herself. She did not put it out side so everyone (Amy) could see, like the preview mad it look. It basically said she would not rest until Amy was out of the house.

[IJustLikeTivo]

It was on the inside of Vickys bedroom door as a motivation for herself. She did not put it out side so everyone (Amy) could see, like the preview mad it look. It basically said she would not rest until Amy was out of the house.

I have to think that she said it to them though. She has been completely up front with what a bitch she has been. Hard to imagine that Amy could have any illusion about how mad she is. That's the sad part. Amy is so co-dependent that she still wants Vicky to like her. So, rather than have Vicky hate her, she votes for Colleen who would be her natural ally. If she marries, Amy will end up being a battered wife, her self esteem is non existent. Bob really does his team no favors with the way he deals with this stuff. Love her or hate her, Jillian is more honest with her people and does them a favor long term by not forcing them to vote as a block when it's not in their interest.

[debtoine]

I agree with Todd. Amy will get voted out the first chance they have. She's always been the one on the blue team they'd sacrifice first. It's a shame she flipped back this week.

From the preview of next week:

I couldn't help rewinding and freeze framing to see the in-progress weigh in they were showing in the preview. It looks like Heba, Ed and Vicky are all going to be safe with Amy, Michelle and Renee bringing up the bottom. Of course, this could all be just drama before they drop someone else below the line due to a penalty or something, but it looks like the potential for another black team member, or Amy, is real next week. I hope it doesn't work out that way.

deb

[EvilMidniteBombr]

they will vote amy off as soon as they can because she has consitantly posted high numbers in her weigh ins. Also she's been the week's biggest loser for two weeks in a row. If she happens to fall below the line she's gone. Vicky's reasons will be she's posting big numbers and she can't trust her to vote for the team (aka Vicky)

[Jayjoans]

Vicky is willing to trade how the NATION feels about her for a CHANCE at $175k (after taxes).

No thanks. I'd rather hide my hideous self in obscurity and work 60 hours a week to earn that than be universally hated and despised and likely end up with nothing.

She is a very ugly person.:down:

Wife and I used to really enjoy this show, it was very uplifting and motivating. After last night's show we were both just annoyed and disgusted. There's plenty of those feelings in everyday life, no need to watch it on tv.

[Butcher Girl]

Vicky is willing to trade how the NATION feels about her for a CHANCE at $175k (after taxes).

No thanks. I'd rather hide my hideous self in obscurity and work 60 hours a week to earn that than be universally hated and despised and likely end up with nothing.


ITA! - I wonder if a few months from now when the show is over, Vicky will still think that stepping on your peers in front of a viewing audience for $250K is really worth being heckled and booed every time you hit the grocery store? (that is, assuming she wins which I hope she does NOT) Even if she wins the money, her life will still suck, and even more now than before. She made her bed, she'll have to lie in it - and if Brady grows a pair at some point, maybe she'll be sleeping in it alone.

And while she's watching this show air week-to-week with all her family gathered 'round, I hope that Vicky realizes what a hypocrite she is...she didn't want to apologize to Amy P. last week for being a Major Beeyotch to Phil because she "didn't do anything to Amy"...when it was HER hubby on the chopping block, she didn't waste time acting on his behalf and defending his honor...as if I should be surprised...Vicky is the most self-centered person I've ever watched on TV, and I truly think that she believes that all the other players should readily lay themselves at her feet and sacrifice themselves so that she can win and if they don't, then they are traitors in her eyes.

Just a couple of things to comment on from this episode:

1. I love Bob in 80's shorts. :D
2. Leotard + Heba + croch-shot by the cameraman = YUCK! I am trying to forget that as quickly as possible...
3. Michelle is my new favorite now that Coleen is gone, but mostly just because she gave Vicky the +1 pound penalty. I wonder if she is regretting her choice of $5000 vs. 1 pound pass - if I were Michelle, I would be cursing Amy's name right now...you had the chance and YOU BLEW IT!!!
4. Coleen is way more focused a competitor, but Vicky has way more weight to lose...IMHO, Vicky clearly would have been the better choice to send home for strategic purposes, and not just because she is a dog-faced hag. ;)

[Havana Brown]

2. Leotard + Heba + croch-shot by the cameraman = YUCK! I am trying to forget that as quickly as possible...


That was gross and uncalled for!! Then she has the nerve to make fun of Bob's shorts. At least he has the legs for it!!! Then she said she was embarrassed by Ed. At least Ed was having a good time. Heba's outfit was nasty. I thought Coleen looked cute. I think I may have worn that to sports practice in the 80's sans the tights. :o

And yes, bad decision Amy. Next time she's below the yellow line she's a goner. Too bad her mom wasn't there to lecture her again like last time.

[laria]

Then she said she was embarrassed by Ed. At least Ed was having a good time.
It seemed like she was more worried that he was going to have a "revealing" accident in the shorts. But I may be giving her the benefit of the doubt. :)

[craftassistant]

I heard through the grapevine that Heba and Vicky are not getting promo contracts.

Also You can read Vicky's accounts on her myspace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=413397621). Now I read her blogs of Episode 8 and 9...Those are kinda of twisted bc it revealed who was going to be eliminated next and I know that show hasn't aired. Episode 7 is what kinda of just happened.

Funny thing is she has like 200 friends, and Colleen has tons of friends. I found Heba's profile too last night and now I can't find them. Here is Colleen's (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=417851262) and she has links to the others. They look amazing

Anyways Vicky's blog was interesting. I wouldn't read past number 7 because it will be spoilers in it.

[USAFSSO]

...
Also You can read Vicky's accounts on her myspace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=413397621). Now I read her blogs of Episode 8 and 9...Those are kinda of twisted bc it revealed who was going to be eliminated next and I know that show hasn't aired. Episode 7 is what kinda of just happened.
...

Wouldn't that be a violation of their non-nondisclosure contracts? But Vicky is an idiot.

[gchance]

2. Leotard + Heba + croch-shot by the cameraman = YUCK! I am trying to forget that as quickly as possible...

That was gross and uncalled for!! Then she has the nerve to make fun of Bob's shorts. At least he has the legs for it!!!

I'm not the only one who noticed that shot! I had totally forgotten about it until Butcher Girl here reminded me. Thanks a LOT.

Also You can read Vicky's accounts on her myspace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=413397621).
...
Funny thing is she has like 200 friends, and Colleen has tons of "friends".

FYP. :)

BTW, I saw the Prevention Magazine article at the store last night. It's a good thing they didn't put Vicky & Brady on the cover, they'd have the least-selling issue of all time.

Greg

[Butcher Girl]

Also You can read Vicky's accounts on her myspace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=413397621). Now I read her blogs of Episode 8 and 9...Those are kinda of twisted bc it revealed who was going to be eliminated next and I know that show hasn't aired. Episode 7 is what kinda of just happened.

Week 9 was just aired on 11/18/08. She posted about it that night.

I've been following her blog, too - and she usually posts about the week's show just after it airs on the west coast...it's kind of a twisted, one-sided recap of the week from her perspective, but it only covers stuff that already happened or was implied... I'm pretty sure NBC would want to keep a tight leash on stuff like that... :)

[craftassistant]

ok Butcher Girl.. but what confused me was that she mentioned Brady. Colleen was just voted off this week correct? Now granted I did read part of her blog at 2am so I could be totally confused.

I have to say that Colleen and Michelle look amazing from their profiles on myspace.

[Butcher Girl]

ok Butcher Girl.. but what confused me was that she mentioned Brady. Colleen was just voted off this week correct? Now granted I did read part of her blog at 2am so I could be totally confused.

I have to say that Colleen and Michelle look amazing from their profiles on myspace.


Brady was voted off the previous week (11/11), so when she started her 11/18 blog, she was picking up from where they left off from the end of the previous week...at the end of her 11/18 blog, she speaks about Coleen's departure, which just happened. :)

Coleen does look great on her MySpace (I haven't seen Michelle's). I really noticed a huge difference this week in the side-by-side before & "afters" when they were weighing in. Very inspirational...I thought it was most striking with Ed...

[craftassistant]

you are right about Brady.. duh! I was confusing him with Ed..bc there was the guy still..lol Wouldn't it be cool if it ended up only girls in the finale! lol

[USAFSSO]

you are right about Brady.. duh! I was confusing him with Ed..bc there was the guy still..lol Wouldn't it be cool if it ended up only girls in the finale! lol

It would be cool, as long as Vicky isn't there........

[Butcher Girl]

So, I have a question...if the makeovers haven't happened yet, and Coleen just got voted off, then what's she doing in the Prevention article? :confused:

Just when I thought I had this show figured out...

[gchance]

Good point about Colleen. Maybe they aren't doing a makeover thing this year? Maybe we should just watch the show and not assume they will or will not do anything they've done in the past. Heh.

Greg

[USAFSSO]

I thought the Prevention article was win for a food challenge a few weeks ago. I think they had to guess the calories.

[Butcher Girl]

USAFSSO, at first I thought you hit the nail on the head, but then I thought...wasn't Coleen on the losing team of that challenge? (eta: and Michelle and Renee, too?)

gchance, I guess you are right, I shouldn't jump to conclusions...this show is never short on twists and turns (and mysteries!).

[IJustLikeTivo]

I'm stunned. Vicky screwed Amy over. How did that happen?

Freaking moron!

She said she WAS insecure. What a joke. She still is. She voted for against Vicky just to try and make a friend. How insecure was that!

[Mamoth]

Sigh.

Amy kinda screwed herself.

I'm sad =(

H8 Vicky so much.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

Looks like Amy should have voted for Vicky when she had the chance. Hey Amy, now do you see where trying to be friends got you?

This show has become a "same night" watch for me & the wife. We pretty much start watching as soon as the buffer is large enough to skip all the commercials. Unfortunately the only reason we do that is because of Vicky and Heba. We tune in each week hoping to see them get voted off.

I really hope they don't start casting each new season with more of these types of people.

[debtoine]

I knew Amy's goose was cooked the minute she voted Brady out. First chance the horrible Vicky got to vote out Amy, she would be gone. No surprises tonight at all, except that Michelle and Renee spanked the blue team at the weigh in (thank goodness).

I still can't wait to see Vicky leave. Even if she makes the finale, I hope she's not the one who wins it all. I'd love to see Michelle take this.

deb

[IJustLikeTivo]

I knew Amy's goose was cooked the minute she voted Brady out. First chance the horrible Vicky got to vote out Amy, she would be gone. No surprises tonight at all, except that Michelle and Renee spanked the blue team at the weigh in (thank goodness).

I still can't wait to see Vicky leave. Even if she makes the finale, I hope she's not the one who wins it all. I'd love to see Michelle take this.

deb

The only two I would be happy as winner now would be Michelle or her Mother.

The game play aspects of this show have gotten out of control. Most of these people have emotional issues already does having games where someone gets to pick on you really help? I like the games to be straight forward. You win or lose based on what you did.

FWIW, I also hated the reward game. Vicky sandbags cause she thought she had NO chance and they reward her for that. That's asinine. I can see that it the second was 5 weeks later so they were training but this is just stupid. Vicky thought she had no chance so she didn't try and then got rewarded.

I hate just about every aspect of this year. The only people I like Amy/Phil and Michelle and her mother have been preyed upon all year by Vicky and the evil cabal. Not great television and it misses the whole point why people watch.

[debtoine]

I hate just about every aspect of this year. The only people I like Amy/Phil and Michelle and her mother have been preyed upon all year by Vicky and the evil cabal. Not great television and it misses the whole point why people watch.

Yep.

I also forgot to say last night that Amy has a nice voice. That was nice to see, and I had no idea.

deb

[Mamoth]

This show has become a "same night" watch for me & the wife. We pretty much start watching as soon as the buffer is large enough to skip all the commercials. Unfortunately the only reason we do that is because of Vicky and Heba. We tune in each week hoping to see them get voted off.

We do the exact same thing for the exact same reason.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

We do the exact same thing for the exact same reason.
Good to know that it isn't just me. ;)

[justapixel]

The only two I would be happy as winner now would be Michelle or her Mother.

The game play aspects of this show have gotten out of control. Most of these people have emotional issues already does having games where someone gets to pick on you really help? I like the games to be straight forward. You win or lose based on what you did.

FWIW, I also hated the reward game. Vicky sandbags cause she thought she had NO chance and they reward her for that. That's asinine. I can see that it the second was 5 weeks later so they were training but this is just stupid. Vicky thought she had no chance so she didn't try and then got rewarded.

I hate just about every aspect of this year. The only people I like Amy/Phil and Michelle and her mother have been preyed upon all year by Vicky and the evil cabal. Not great television and it misses the whole point why people watch.

QFT

I won't watch next season if they cast the same kind of backstabbers. The point is getting healthy - both physically AND mentally.

Being mentally healthy doesn't mean you put people down, ignore the rules, screw people over, talk about them behind their back and be ungracious when you win and they don't.

They are all there for the same reason and they should be supporting each other as teams in the past have done.

There is such a thing as healthy competition. One person gets the money but they ALL win, and anybody who goes on that show only for the money won't last long in their new life of health.

I watch Survivor for the mental mind games. I watch this show because it's uplifting watching people work hard to change their lives. Heba and Vicky are ruining this show.

I wonder if other people online think the way we do? If so, I sure hope the producers are reading these comments.

[bareyb]

QFT

I won't watch next season if they cast the same kind of backstabbers. The point is getting healthy - both physically AND mentally.

Heba and Vicky are ruining this show.

I wonder if other people online think the way we do? If so, I sure hope the producers are reading these comments.

I did a Google Search on the phrase: "Heba and Vicky are ruining this show" (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Heba+and+Vicky+are+ruining+this+show&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) and you can see by the results that, yep people definitely DO feel the same way we do. :D

I'm with you. If they cast another bunch like this one, I'm out. And it's too bad because it used to be one of my favorite shows.

[justapixel]

I did a Google Search on the phrase: "Heba and Vicky are ruining this show" (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Heba+and+Vicky+are+ruining+this+show&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) and you can see by the results that, yep people definitely DO feel the same way we do. :D



Wow! Some of those people are vicious! You'd think Heba and Vicky modded a forum or something. :D ;)

[IJustLikeTivo]

Wow! Some of those people are vicious! You'd think Heba and Vicky modded a forum or something. :D ;)

If you think the ones on Heba are bad,check out what people say about Vicky!

Oh my..

http://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/08/biggest-loser-6-vicky-vilcan/

[Mamoth]

I did a Google Search on the phrase: "Heba and Vicky are ruining this show" (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Heba+and+Vicky+are+ruining+this+show&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) and you can see by the results that, yep people definitely DO feel the same way we do. :D

I'm with you. If they cast another bunch like this one, I'm out. And it's too bad because it used to be one of my favorite shows.

Damn!

[Mamoth]

If you think the ones on Heba are bad,check out what people say about Vicky!

Oh my..

http://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/08/biggest-loser-6-vicky-vilcan/

Double damn!

[Havana Brown]

Good point about Colleen. Maybe they aren't doing a makeover thing this year? Maybe we should just watch the show and not assume they will or will not do anything they've done in the past. Heh.

Greg

From checking out what's coming up in the next week on the Tivo To Do List


looks like they're making the make-over appearances on the Tyra show

Amy should've taken out Vicky when she could. Then Vicky couldn't have cast that vote against her.

[gchance]

Oh man, this is hilarious. I realize it's a blog entry, but when I opened my browser (set to go to Yahoo), this was the top story, with Vicky's giant pre-weight loss mug:

The Biggest Villain On The Biggest Loser (http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/the-biggest-villain-on-biggest-loser--48)

Anyway, it gave me a nice chuckle.

The Biggest Loser: Families" -- but not for reasons you might think. Her name is Vicky and, to put it bluntly, she scares us.

Good read. :)

Greg

[IJustLikeTivo]

So, I just watched that charade with everyone telling Vicky how proud they were that after 20 minutes of being a complete coward and a baby she jumped in the water. I think I threw up in my mouth a little. Then, to make it worse, they waste 10 minutes while she explains what a loser she was.

Damn that woman is useless.

BTW, greg, that link is solid gold.

[Unseen Llama]

So, I just watched that charade with everyone telling Vicky how proud they were that after 20 minutes of being a complete coward and a baby she jumped in the water. I think I threw up in my mouth a little. Then, to make it worse, they waste 10 minutes while she explains what a loser she was.

Damn that woman is useless.

BTW, greg, that link is solid gold.

I didn't think someone so evil could be that afraid of heights... :D

[IJustLikeTivo]

I didn't think someone so evil could be that afraid of heights... :D

LOL, Height should cower in front of her. Like all her minions.....

[Unseen Llama]

Not liking how this show is just steering towards Vicki's problems. They can't really fix this show by trying to make her emotional. At this point I could care less how she feels or even thinks.

[IJustLikeTivo]

If there is any justice, Vicky will fall below the line and find out what America truly thinks of her..... Please, please, please......

[justapixel]

If there is any justice, Vicky will fall below the line and find out what America truly thinks of her..... Please, please, please......

Since the show stopped filming in summer, she is probably reading the internet comments like the rest of us, so she knows what America thinks.

If she has the $350k, she probably won't care though. :)

[gchance]

If justice is served, voted off or not, she should get a huge boooooooooooo at the live finale. I just doubt that will happen.

Greg

[Mamoth]

If justice is served, voted off or not, she should get a huge boooooooooooo at the live finale. I just doubt that will happen.

Greg

The applause signs will keep that from happening. :(

[Mamoth]

I'm sad.

[refried]

In the preview they said that America will be able to choose the third finalist. I can only hope it's between Vicky and someone else. I'll certainly call in to vote for that someone else. I guess I'm at least watching some of the finale.

Edit: Okay, okay, I didn't use spoiler tags before. It's not like they didn't do the same thing LAST YEAR before the finale. And thanks for quoting it, now you need to edit your post too. :p

[USAFSSO]

In the preview they said that America will be able to choose the third finalist. I can only hope it's between Vicky and someone else. I'll certainly call in to vote for that someone else. I guess I'm at least watching some of the finale.

Careful on talking about previews. The spoiler police will be upset and say bad things. :D

With the "low" numbers this week for Vicky, I'm thinking she did a light water load so she gets big numbers next week. She plays the game.

[Dssturbo1]

jillian.....all i care about is that your ass gets smaller.
that was funny

[gchance]

Careful on talking about previews. The spoiler police will be upset and say bad things. :D

With the "low" numbers this week for Vicky, I'm thinking she did a light water load so she gets big numbers next week. She plays the game.

I don't think so, this late in the game losses are small anyway. That's just how it goes.

And as far as spoilers go, I think with Vicky and her crap, if someone came in here and announced in big bold letters that the rest of the contestants slit her throat during the night, nobody would complain that people posted spoilers. Not with Vicky. :)

They'd be quite happy, I think.

Watched last night's episode, not much to say here except that it was freaky seeing Bob & Jillian on the big screen at Times' Square, heh.

Greg

[USAFSSO]

...
And as far as spoilers go, I think with Vicky and her crap, if someone came in here and announced in big bold letters that the rest of the contestants slit her throat during the night, nobody would complain that people posted spoilers. Not with Vicky. :)
...

Greg
I only bring it up because of the bs going on in another thread. Same kind of thing, a mention of someone/team in the finally, and a few people were upset. I don't care. The thread is tagged with "spoilers" so I expect it to happen.

What is the time line of the show, are they more on real time this season? Reason why I ask, They were on the Tyra Banks show, which airs today. America gets to pick the third player (vote of one of the bottom 2). No mention of how the final contestants are going to have to continue their workouts and program for a few months at home which makes me think they are still on the ranch.

[Havana Brown]

I thought it was quite entertaining. I cracked up with Ed in New York. He was amusing. And he looked good. I thought Vicky looked like a tart.

I agree with Michelle, that Vicky was stealing her thunder. I don't believe that Heba fit in a size 14 and had room to spare. She's still over 200 lbs.

[refried]

What is the time line of the show, are they more on real time this season?

I think Renee said that she had been off the ranch for two months in her elimination video. So the latest they could have been on the ranch is the end of September.

[IJustLikeTivo]

I only bring it up because of the bs going on in another thread. Same kind of thing, a mention of someone/team in the finally, and a few people were upset. I don't care. The thread is tagged with "spoilers" so I expect it to happen.

What is the time line of the show, are they more on real time this season? Reason why I ask, They were on the Tyra Banks show, which airs today. America gets to pick the third player (vote of one of the bottom 2). No mention of how the final contestants are going to have to continue their workouts and program for a few months at home which makes me think they are still on the ranch.

Just to be safe

They all went home one week later. The only thing the vote does is decide who actually is eligible to win. The Tyra banks thing was taped months ago and will just now be shown.

[Mamoth]

I thought Vicky looked like a tart.

This is beyond me actually hating her. She really did look scary to me (even if I didn't hate her, I would still think this). Almost like they threw on some diaper cream on her face to make her look white. Really washed out.

[EvilMidniteBombr]

I really wish Michelle would have pushed Vicky into the water after she won the challenge. If it had been me, I would have. I also would not have been standing around soaking wet waiting for her.

I really wish that Vicky would have voted Ed off the show. Man, how sweet would it have been to see her and Heba going at each other?

I can only hope that she is below the yellow line next week so that I can have a chance to vote her out of the final 3. I might even pay to do it.

[gchance]

What is the time line of the show, are they more on real time this season? Reason why I ask, They were on the Tyra Banks show, which airs today. America gets to pick the third player (vote of one of the bottom 2). No mention of how the final contestants are going to have to continue their workouts and program for a few months at home which makes me think they are still on the ranch.

I think they're a little bit closer from film to air this season, but not by much. A month, maybe two? Where a few years ago it was more like 4 or 5 months. After this season they'll go straight into the next one after New Years, so that's probably why.

I thought it was quite entertaining. I cracked up with Ed in New York. He was amusing. And he looked good. I thought Vicky looked like a tart.

Now that's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Thanks. :)

I agree with Michelle, that Vicky was stealing her thunder. I don't believe that Heba fit in a size 14 and had room to spare. She's still over 200 lbs.

I don't know why they would lie about it though. Maybe her weight is just distributed in such a way that it fit. Or she's wearing a girdle, her blobby pooch didn't seem as noticeable in the dress.

Greg

[IJustLikeTivo]

This is beyond me actually hating her. She really did look scary to me (even if I didn't hate her, I would still think this). Almost like they threw on some diaper cream on her face to make her look white. Really washed out.

She certainly looked awful. I have no idea who did her makeup, but it did nothing to make her look good.

The thing I hated most about her entire "I can't jump thing" is that she was rewarded for being bad. She got attention when Michelle should have and then they wasted 10 minute belaboring the point afterwards.

I so, so hope that she is below the line next week.

[Havana Brown]

I really wish that Vicky would have voted Ed off the show. Man, how sweet would it have been to see her and Heba going at each other?


The editing sure made it seem like it. I sure wish she had too. Maybe Ed will win and it'll come back and bite her in the arse.



I don't know why they would lie about it though. Maybe her weight is just distributed in such a way that it fit. Or she's wearing a girdle, her blobby pooch didn't seem as noticeable in the dress.

Greg

Maybe it was a women's size 14. 14W. She still looked blobby to me, not as much as before, but I guess compared to the others she does. I hate to admit it, but I thought Vicky looked small at the weigh in.

And WTH was Bob wearing at the weigh in? Who dressed him?

[laria]

I don't believe that Heba fit in a size 14 and had room to spare. She's still over 200 lbs.
She's a tall girl... the website said she's 5'10". So while she is always going on about how she's the biggest girl there... yeah she's the biggest girl (maybe the biggest girl ever?) but I don't think she really has that much more total weight to lose than most everyone else.

And it was an A-line dress gathered right under her boobs. :) I know when I was the weight she is now, I could have definitely worn a size 14 A-line dress.

[Havana Brown]

She's a tall girl... the website said she's 5'10". So while she is always going on about how she's the biggest girl there... yeah she's the biggest girl (maybe the biggest girl ever?) but I don't think she really has that much more total weight to lose than most everyone else.

And it was an A-line dress gathered right under her boobs. :) I know when I was the weight she is now, I could have definitely worn a size 14 A-line dress.

I think Isabeau a few seasons back was about 300 or a little more. I think Heba still has plenty of room more to lose weight. I can see her getting into the 160's. If you find pics of Isabeau she's quite tiny.

[IJustLikeTivo]

I think Isabeau a few seasons back was about 300 or a little more. I think Heba still has plenty of room more to lose weight. I can see her getting into the 160's. If you find pics of Isabeau she's quite tiny.

Amy, Isabeau and Amber with all in the 290s that year with Isabeau at 298, Amy at 297 and Amber at 295. By BMI, Amber was the least fit at a BMI of 50.6. That year had a lot of really big people, at least 5 had a BMI over 50.

By comparison, Heba is a lightweight with a BMI of 42.2. Even at that, this year Michelle started with a BMI of 42.9 and had the most to lose. Of the people still left, Michelle has the highest percentage loss at 29.3 followed by Vicky at 28.4, the others are below 27 percent.

[Jayjoans]

I have never called in and voted for anybody on any show. Not American Idol, not Dancing with the Stars, not Greatest American Band, not America's Got Talent, not Rockband INXS....Never Ever Ever.

But, if I can somehow harm Vicky by voting for someone else, I will speed dial until my fingers bleed or the phone line wears out. I will never stop.

[bareyb]

I have never called in and voted for anybody on any show. Not American Idol, not Dancing with the Stars, not Greatest American Band, not America's Got Talent, not Rockband INXS....Never Ever Ever.

But, if I can somehow harm Vicky by voting for someone else, I will speed dial until my fingers bleed or the phone line wears out. I will never stop.

You know... It occurred to me that the Producers of the show are just as sick of Vikki and Heba as everyone else and is using this tactic to assure that in the future contestants will have to worry (at least a little bit) about how they treat people and how they are being perceived by others. I think it's great and it may cut down on some of the "game play". It will force them to have a conscience, much like the "Jury" does on Survivor and Big Brother. :up:

I also think making Vicky sit on that tower and not offering to help her down was another way to stick it to her. They managed to get them UP there and could have gotten her down if they really wanted to... I must admit I felt the tiniest bit sorry for Vicky. Then it passed when she voted off Renee instead of Ed. :p

[Mamoth]

I have never called in and voted for anybody on any show. Not American Idol, not Dancing with the Stars, not Greatest American Band, not America's Got Talent, not Rockband INXS....Never Ever Ever.

But, if I can somehow harm Vicky by voting for someone else, I will speed dial until my fingers bleed or the phone line wears out. I will never stop.

Hells yea!

[Jayjoans]

She is an attention whore. When she wasn't going to win and be the focus, she had to stay up there, whine, cry and become the focus. It is not in her makeup to stand next to the host quietly while the others compete. :down:

[Mamoth]

You know... It occurred to me that the Producers of the show are just as sick of Vikki and Heba as everyone else and is using this tactic to assure that in the future contestants will have to worry (at least a little bit) about how they treat people and how they are being perceived by others. I think it's great and it may cut down on some of the "game play". It will force them to have a conscience, much like the "Jury" does on Survivor and Big Brother. :up:

You think they didn't have this "America Votes" thing already planned before the season even started? I'm skeptical. While I agree that it may do what you say, I just a little skeptical that it wasn't in the works all along.

Just wondering if others feel the same way or if this has been stated elsewhere?

[CorgiMom28]

It just disgusts me that Icky Vicky is just in it for the money... she (and her equally disgusting husband) has got a great opportunity at her feet and she's just going to balloon back up to where she was before, if not more once the finale is over.

I usually enjoy watching TBL but this season it seems to be more like watching a "train wreck".

[mattack]

It seemed strange that the fluff was more than usual. They had the FULL review before the second "hour" of the show, instead of (still a time-waster) a review of the previous hour. It's not like they don't have TONS (heh heh) of footage they could use.

For the woman who wouldn't jump off, I would have screamed at her, and it would have been edited to make me look like the bad guy. "DAMNIT, JUST JUMP. WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME HERE." and then just sat down.

[Dssturbo1]

You think they didn't have this "America Votes" thing already planned before the season even started? I'm skeptical. While I agree that it may do what you say, I just a little skeptical that it wasn't in the works all along.

Just wondering if others feel the same way or if this has been stated elsewhere?
they voted the third person in last year. i think it was roger.

[gacatz]

i was just wondering if the finale winner is already chosen? today is 12/5 ( i think)

[CorgiMom28]

i was just wondering if the finale winner is already chosen? today is 12/5 ( i think)

I was wondering the same thing... I read on a blog somewhere that one of the contestants recently made a large donation to their child/children's school(s).

[Havana Brown]

It just disgusts me that Icky Vicky is just in it for the money... she (and her equally disgusting husband) has got a great opportunity at her feet and she's just going to balloon back up to where she was before, if not more once the finale is over.



And I'm looking forward to that.


I really wish that Vicky would have voted Ed off the show. Man, how sweet would it have been to see her and Heba going at each other?

I can only hope that she is below the yellow line next week so that I can have a chance to vote her out of the final 3. I might even pay to do it.


Amy should have voted Vicky off when she could. It would have been great to see Amy still in it, Vicky gone that week, and then Heba and Ed below the yellow line, or at least one of them. If Amy were thinking strategy, then anyone that was below the yellow line along with Renee would have gone home instead of Renee.

Speaking of Amy, she was on the Today show on Tuesday. She's down to a size 6 and looked great. I guess next Tuesday will be Renee's turn on the show.

[gchance]

I think Isabeau a few seasons back was about 300 or a little more. I think Heba still has plenty of room more to lose weight. I can see her getting into the 160's. If you find pics of Isabeau she's quite tiny.

Was is the keyword here. She's gained at least 30 pounds or more. A blogger (http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com/) I follow went to Isabeau's fit camp a few months back, and posted videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWvtmforEM0). She appeared in the early videos from the shoulders up and looked fine, but then later he showed her full-bodied and she looked quite heavy.

It's not so much that she's trying to actively hide it, but it certainly came as a surprise.

In the posts for the videos, people had commented that she gained her weight back, and she responded. She tried unsuccessfully to play it off, and said something like how during the show she was thinner than her optimum weight because she had lost a lot of muscle mass that she's now regained. Muscle mass? Here's a couple pictures of her taken by Jimmy Moore (the blogger I mentioned) in August.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2772527083_ddc3e83ef8.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3034/2772527027_53b324432b.jpg

i was just wondering if the finale winner is already chosen? today is 12/5 ( i think)

I was wondering the same thing... I read on a blog somewhere that one of the contestants recently made a large donation to their child/children's school(s).

Nope. The winner isn't chosen until they weigh in just prior to the finale (remember, the scales on the show aren't real scales), and not announced until it airs. The finale is live, so they probably won't have chosen a winner until 9pm EST that day.

Also, I believe it's at least a few weeks, maybe a month, between filming of the final "episode" and the live finale.

Oh, and re: Roger from last season, both Jillian & Bob have said on Jillian's radio show that they didn't like him personally. Heh.

Greg

[IJustLikeTivo]

Also, I believe it's at least a few weeks, maybe a month, between filming of the final "episode" and the live finale.

Oh, and re: Roger from last season, both Jillian & Bob have said on Jillian's radio show that they didn't like him personally. Heh.

Greg

Normally, it has been about 2 months since the last weigh in when they have the reunion final.

Well, Roger was the Vicky of last year. He was mostly in it for the money just like Vicky is. He was on Oprah and like Ali, Mark and Mark's brother, they have kept the weight off so far ( 6 months ). Matt from season two put on about 50 lbs but is still over 100 lbs lighter.

[USAFSSO]

Normally, it has been about 2 months since the last weigh in when they have the reunion final.

Well, Roger was the Vicky of last year. He was mostly in it for the money just like Vicky is. He was on Oprah and like Ali, Mark and Mark's brother, they have kept the weight off so far ( 6 months ). Matt from season two put on about 50 lbs but is still over 100 lbs lighter.

Roger cried a lot more though. :D

[EvilMidniteBombr]

I don't remember Roger (had to look him up to remember who the heck he was) being anywhere NEAR as annoying and egotistical as Vicky. I never pleaded for Roger to be eliminated like I have her. IIRC, the meanest thing he did was vote Dan's mom off when he promised he wouldn't.

[craftassistant]

I loved how Renee and her husband went for a run over the Brooklyn Bridge. I agree with her on that her marriage will be stronger now with this "fitness" lifestyle she has adopted.

I have to admit that I loved Heba's hairstyle as well. She seems to have mellowed alot since the past 2 episodes. I am guessing she is sick of Vicky too. She seems to shy away from Vicky, atleast the editing it makes it appear that way.

Greg...I will ask my friend who has Isabeau as a personal trainer about her weight gain.

[IJustLikeTivo]

Roger cried a lot more though. :D

Not as much as Mark AKA Niagara....

"it's tuesday!" sob.....

[IJustLikeTivo]

I don't remember Roger (had to look him up to remember who the heck he was) being anywhere NEAR as annoying and egotistical as Vicky. I never pleaded for Roger to be eliminated like I have her. IIRC, the meanest thing he did was vote Dan's mom off when he promised he wouldn't.

Don't misunderstand my meaning. Roger wasn't nasty ( or anywhere near as nasty) but he was "in it to win it" and was more concerned about winning that what it was doing for him. When he was on Oprah, he seemed to be more in tune with the benefits of the changes than he was during the show.

[gchance]

Roger cried a lot more though. :D

Not as much as Mark AKA Niagara....

"it's tuesday!" sob.....

GAH! You beat me to the punch!
http://icebarrel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mark-and-jay-cry-over-elimination-biggest-loser.jpg

Greg

[Havana Brown]

But I think Mark evolved throughout the show. IIRC, at the beginning he and his brother Jay were real a-holes. He seemed to turn soft toward the end.

[Havana Brown]

Renee was on the Today show this morning. She had an ever shorter haircut and she looked terrific. She said she's a size 8'ish.

[IJustLikeTivo]

Renee was on the Today show this morning. She had an ever shorter haircut and she looked terrific. She said she's a size 8'ish.

My left leg might be an eight..... ;)

Glad to see she kept going. Of all the people on the show this year, She and Michelle along with the two Amys and Phil seem to really get it. The goal is to win but the real prize is your health.

[IJustLikeTivo]

Heba and Vicky will regain every ounce. Neither has learned a damn thing.

Heba still makes excuses, Vicky still knows nothing about nutrition and she still thinks she did nothing wrong except for deciding to eat. Without learning, she'll be just like Ryan the season one winner. He regained every ounce he lost cause he learned nothing.

Numercially Michelle is at 33 % Vicky is at 31, Heba at 28 and Ed at 24%.

Here's is a question. Ed won the food when they get home, does Heba get to eat it too? Seems like that would be an unfair advantage for her and one she didn't earn via game play.

One last thing. Vicky may be 76 lbs lighter but she is every bit as ugly as she was before> Ugly is through and through. She says she won't put weight on but without knowing how to not do that or why she gained in the first place, she has no chance. I find it ironic that her idea of caring for her kids is feeding them fast food every night for dinner. What a tragic mess.

[CorgiMom28]

Heba and Vicky will regain every ounce. Neither has learned a damn thing.


Here's is a question. Ed won the food when they get home, does Heba get to eat it too? Seems like that would be an unfair advantage for her and one she didn't earn via game play.

One last thing. Vicky may be 76 lbs lighter but she is every bit as ugly as she was before> Ugly is through and through. She says she won't put weight on but without knowing how to not do that or why she gained in the first place, she has no chance. I find it ironic that her idea of caring for her kids is feeding them fast food every night for dinner. What a tragic mess.
I thought the prize was for meals for the contestant and their family... I may be wrong, though.

Vicky is a total beotch... ugly is as ugly does.

I hope they gain it back in spades!