House 9-16-08 (Yes, spoilers)

[RichardHead]

My DTV DVR stopped recording at the end as Wilson said "We're not friends anymore, House ..."!

What was the rest of the conversation?

I have to know!

[rambler]

ditto!

[joseph_liu]

Me too!! Anyone catch the end??!

[scottykempf]

Me too!! Anyone catch the end??!

You mean you didn't record Fringe? Wilson said: "I'm not your friend anymore, House. I'm not sure I ever was" and walked out of his office and down the hallway.

[Merejane]

You mean you didn't record Fringe? Wilson said: "I'm not your friend anymore, House. I'm not sure I ever was" and walked out of his office and down the hallway.

Thank you!

By the way, I did record Fringe, but between the two shows, the first part ("Im not your friend anymore, House") got dropped. House ended right before that line, and my Fringe recording picked up only "I'm not sure I ever was."

[RichardHead]

I did record Fringe though I forgot about it until after posting my message. It also didn't pick up the "I'm not sure I ever was" but I got Wilson walking down the hall.

[lofar]

Damn, i messed up the season pass and it didn't even record. And I can't find a rerun on the guide anywhere. Usually USA plays all the episodes a week behind, i guess they're not doing that anymore. Guess i'll have to catch it on youtube or the fox.com website.

[Idearat]

Damn, i messed up the season pass and it didn't even record. And I can't find a rerun on the guide anywhere. Usually USA plays all the episodes a week behind, i guess they're not doing that anymore. Guess i'll have to catch it on youtube or the fox.com website.

Mine didn't either. I was sure I got screwed again by DirecTV's guide data nonsence. Recording history claimed the 28 day rule.

Best I can tell now, I had 2 things schedule to record tonight. Since I have SP's for both Fox and USA ( FRO ) it opted to record on the 26th on USA.

It took a while to find, I now have 4 SPs for House, 2 on Fox, 2 on USA.

[Jesda]

Wilson is dumb.

[Bluesfan77]

Isn't it this kind of crap that causes people to "pirate" the episodes? Why do the networks see fit to screw over the people who record? I'm sorry...I work at night. I'd be more than happy to sit and watch "live" but I can't. If the network would pay me, then I'd happily watch live.

Checking Fox's website, it says, "Episodes Online 8 Days After Broadcast". Well, guess what...I'm thinking a torrent is available right now.

Also...padded the SP by five minutes.

[andyw715]

Damn, i messed up the season pass and it didn't even record. And I can't find a rerun on the guide anywhere. Usually USA plays all the episodes a week behind, i guess they're not doing that anymore. Guess i'll have to catch it on youtube or the fox.com website.

It's in my guide for USA, (can't remember what day), as I also missed the last part of Wilson's line....

[lambertman]

It will be on hulu fairly soon.

[Lopey]

I have had the same problem with all my FOX season passes... The old ones don't work even though nothing changed. House, and Prison Break.

Yeah, I need to go into the season pass alert more often:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=403754

[unicorngoddess]

Checking Fox's website, it says, "Episodes Online 8 Days After Broadcast". Well, guess what...I'm thinking a torrent is available right now.


I don't know why Fox decided to do that...is it because USA has the rights to air them too and they don't want to post it for free until USA has aired it?

Great episode though. I liked that Wilson finally opened up to him about the reason he was leaving...and it had nothing to do with Amber.

[toy4x4]

USA is scheduled to air it on Sept 26th which is more than 8 days.

[DevdogAZ]

Is anyone actually going to talk about the episode? I thought it was pretty good. House was especially harsh in this episode, but in his own unique way he showed that Wilson's friendship means more to him than his job or saving patient's lives.

[nirisahn]

I don't think Wilson is dumb. Everything he said about House is true. He doesn't know how to be in a relationship, even a friendship. He's selfish and manipulative and uses people. It's all about him. Even the show about putting Wilson's friendship first was really just for his own benefit. When has he ever really put someone else first?

On a different note, the formulaic 'getting it wrong and almost killing the patient a zillion times before getting it right' is getting old. And House getting away with behavior that would get him fired in real life is also getting old.

[5thcrewman]

"You need a specialist for those kind of warts..."

[Cindy1230]

On a different note, the formulaic 'getting it wrong and almost killing the patient a zillion times before getting it right' is getting old. And House getting away with behavior that would get him fired in real life is also getting old.

Don't forget about House having that light bulb moment right at about 44 minutes ;)

I agree, the formula is annoying, but the content is always great.

[DreadPirateRob]

On a different note, the formulaic 'getting it wrong and almost killing the patient a zillion times before getting it right' is getting old. And House getting away with behavior that would get him fired in real life is also getting old.

It is for this reason that I don't let House episodes build up on my NP list - I can't watch more than one at a sitting because they're the exact same episode each time, with only the patient and the disease/condition changing from show to show.

That said, still good stuff.

[joseph_liu]

you can catch the full episode here:
http://www.fanpop.com/external/2338308

Wilson is off the show now??!

[unicorngoddess]

Don't forget about House having that light bulb moment right at about 44 minutes ;)

I agree, the formula is annoying, but the content is always great.

And it happened TWICE in this episode. Once with the patient and once with Wilson.

[Amnesia]

Wilson is off the show now??!You mean like Cameron, Chase and Foreman all left?

[JMikeD]

And House getting away with behavior that would get him fired in real life is also getting old.

Yup. My SP for House is teetering on the brink of deletion. The character's behavior was interesting for a while back when the series started, but it's not all that interesting to me any more.

[Church AV Guy]

The opening credits STILL show Cameron, Chase and Foreman, but not the new set of doctors, and they aren't all that new anymore. They need better agents.

House just blurting out, in front of the whole team, that "13" has huntington's corea was too insensitive, even for House. His self-centeredness in cruelly manipulating Wilson for his own benefit was over-the-line, again, even for him. And I have to agree, what he did with his patient was criminal. She was right in not wanting to give this patient to him.

On theother hand, the line, "You cut off my cable TV!" was almost worth the whole episode. It worked, because it got him back into the hospital.

So, 13 is annoyed that the assistant goes back to work for the uber-feminist. All uber-bosses are the same. Gender makes very little difference.

[Bulldog7]

Yup. My SP for House is teetering on the brink of deletion. The character's behavior was interesting for a while back when the series started, but it's not all that interesting to me any more.

Not to sound all crazy or anything, but I would say that in real life, a guy like House might have been killed by now, by either a disgruntled patient's family member or someone else he has pissed off/on over the years, like former underlings. I mean, the guy is so totally anti-social I am suprised he is employed/tolerated at work at all, let alone in life. He has only one true friend, and he drives even him away eventually, it appears. Sad, but oddly still good TV.

But of course, no House, no show, so never mind!!!

[unicorngoddess]

House just blurting out, in front of the whole team, that "13" has huntington's corea was too insensitive, even for House. His self-centeredness in cruelly manipulating Wilson for his own benefit was over-the-line, again, even for him. And I have to agree, what he did with his patient was criminal. She was right in not wanting to give this patient to him.


I think all of this was just foreshadowing to us how much House might be hurting inside because he doesn't want to loose Wilson. He may be going down an even darker path without Wilson.

[ADG]

As they did with Columbo when they brought him back, they are turning House into a parody of his character. IMHO, they've crossed the line - he is no longer a believable character.

[That Don Guy]

The opening credits STILL show Cameron, Chase and Foreman, but not the new set of doctors, and they aren't all that new anymore. They need better agents.
Something tells me that Jennifer Morrison, Jesse Spencer, and Omar Epps are the ones who need the better agents, if people don't know their names after four seasons. (Having no emmy nominations between them does not make things easier.) I'm pretty sure they are still in the opening credits because of contractual obligations.

Why Kal Penn and, um, er, uh, the other two aren't in the opening credits is beyond me, although I think they've had the same opening credits since episode 2 (I seem to recall the pilot's opening being pretty much white text on a black background).

Which of these is more likely:
(a) Wilson comes back, and the series continues as if Amber never existed (as Marge Simpson puts it, "Let us never talk of this again", the way they handle the attempted closure of the department, the shooting, and House's legal problems);
(b) somehow, the three new actors leave, House manages to get Chase and Cameron back on the team, and, to top things off, House is shown playing a video game that gets stuck and literally "pushes the reset button"?

-- Don

[rambler]

mmmmmm Cameron.

[jwjody]

I think the writers or producers or someone understands that the medical aspect of the show is formulaic. I think that's why we saw more of House vs. Wilson this episode.

I'm kinda unsure what I think of it though. Do they keep House the same and just let him continue getting away with everything though? Or do they keep upping the ante with how sociopathic he is.

Does anyone really believe he's a good guy on the inside he just refuses to show it? Does he have any socially redeeming qualities? Or is he really that bad of a guy and can't treat anyone else with any respect?

To me it seems either he is that kind of guy and the people around him will break away or he needs to break and finally show some conscious.

J

[hummingbird_206]

I usually find Cameron annoying, but in this ep I really liked her conversation with Wilson about why he was leaving and how he couldn't really move away from the pain. Also, I hate Cameron as a blonde. I thought she looked much better with dark hair.

[tivogurl]

Cuddy was in mighty fine form.

[Boot]

I usually find Cameron annoying, but in this ep I really liked her conversation with Wilson about why he was leaving and how he couldn't really move away from the pain. Also, I hate Cameron as a blonde. I thought she looked much better with dark hair.Agreed on all counts.

[Sadara]

This would be the first episode I thought House was pathetic. Though I still enjoyed it. I can't say that I'm enjoying this show as much as I use to. My husband still loves it so we'll still watch, but I just didn't enjoy this episode as much.

[DevdogAZ]

"You need a specialist for those kind of warts..."
One with spelunking experience.
Cuddy was in mighty fine form.
Except that jacket she was wearing fit her horribly. Made it look like she'd gained a lot of weight.

[That Don Guy]

I think the writers or producers or someone understands that the medical aspect of the show is formulaic. I think that's why we saw more of House vs. Wilson this episode.

I'm kinda unsure what I think of it though. Do they keep House the same and just let him continue getting away with everything though? Or do they keep upping the ante with how sociopathic he is.
It has already been established that the people around House - especially Cuddy and Wilson - are willing to put up with (and even cover up for) him, for one simple reason: House saves lives. If you try making House nicer, it might backfire. (There's an idea for an episode; House tries being nicer, and patients start dying on him; once it's "no more Mister Nice House" and the bodies stop piling up, everybody realizes it's a package deal - "after all, the diseases aren't acting nice, so why should I?")

This might end up the way The Phil Silvers Show ended up - throughout the series, Bilko kept trying crazier and riskier schemes, but he always got away with it (usually not any better off, mind you, but at least he wasn't in some Army prison)...until the last episode, where he got caught trying his biggest scheme (having a lookalike impersonate his commanding officer - in uniform, no less), and the last scene of the show has him behind bars.

-- Don

[unicorngoddess]

It has already been established that the people around House - especially Cuddy and Wilson - are willing to put up with (and even cover up for) him, for one simple reason: House saves lives. If you try making House nicer, it might backfire. (There's an idea for an episode; House tries being nicer, and patients start dying on him; once it's "no more Mister Nice House" and the bodies stop piling up, everybody realizes it's a package deal - "after all, the diseases aren't acting nice, so why should I?")


Didn't they try that last season when House made them all think he had syphilis or something.

[tewcewl]

What interests me is that this episode did not hew to the formulaic, er, formula as closely as they have in the past. Yes, we did see the newbies screw up and try again and screw up and try again without any input from House (and thus without House making mistakes over and over). But what was interesting was that House just stepped in and solved the case. There was no epiphany.

I do think this is going to be an interesting season if House reaches the breaking point and realizes that no one else is going to enable him. Can a tiger really learn to be a house cat?

[unicorngoddess]

There was no epiphany.


Yes there was...he made the look and all.

[Church AV Guy]

Foreman was supposed to be House lite. In the other hospital, last year, he was leading his own team. In this episode he was almost useless. He should have been able to lead this team in house's absence. He contributed almost nothing, as if he was paralyzed somehow. It was completely out of character, and did nothing but support the current story line at the expense of his character development. It was VERY poor writing.

[jwjody]

Foreman was supposed to be House lite. In the other hospital, last year, he was leading his own team. In this episode he was almost useless. He should have been able to lead this team in house's absence. He contributed almost nothing, as if he was paralyzed somehow. It was completely out of character, and did nothing but support the current story line at the expense of his character development. It was VERY poor writing.

I kinda thought the same thing at one time. But wasn't it last season where they (they being the new doctors) stood up to Foreman and explained how he had no real power? They have to be going somewhere with the new doctors. Foreman is just a background character on the team. You would think if he's on the team then he'll be central also.

J

[tivogurl]

Except that jacket she was wearing fit her horribly. Made it look like she'd gained a lot of weight.
Maybe she did. She's ~40 after all.

[DevdogAZ]

Maybe she did. She's ~40 after all.
Yeah, I have no problem with her gaining weight. I have a problem with the wardrobe people who put her in that horrible-fitting outfit. If she's gained 5-10 lbs., a talented wardrobe designer would be able to hide that very easily.

[LoadStar]

Foreman was supposed to be House lite. In the other hospital, last year, he was leading his own team. In this episode he was almost useless. He should have been able to lead this team in house's absence. He contributed almost nothing, as if he was paralyzed somehow. It was completely out of character, and did nothing but support the current story line at the expense of his character development. It was VERY poor writing.

I kinda thought the same thing at one time. But wasn't it last season where they (they being the new doctors) stood up to Foreman and explained how he had no real power? They have to be going somewhere with the new doctors. Foreman is just a background character on the team. You would think if he's on the team then he'll be central also.

J

jwjody is right. At one point it's possible Foreman probably could have been a leader of a diagnostic team... but the combination of him getting fired almost immediately from his first post-Princeton-Plainsboro position, then being put in his place by the doctors who replaced him last season, probably destroyed his ability to lead for the most part.

[dansachs]

This might end up the way The Phil Silvers Show ended up - throughout the series, Bilko kept trying crazier and riskier schemes, but he always got away with it (usually not any better off, mind you, but at least he wasn't in some Army prison)...until the last episode, where he got caught trying his biggest scheme (having a lookalike impersonate his commanding officer - in uniform, no less), and the last scene of the show has him behind bars.

-- Don

Sounds like the last episode of Seinfeld!

[Havana Brown]

Is anyone actually going to talk about the episode?

Kinda hard when so many people's tivo's missed the recording! :p

It was an okay episode. I thought Cameron had dropped a lbs. She looked anorexically skinny.