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hypnoticpimp
09-11-2008, 03:33 PM
I noticed i get a copyright flag when trying to transfer HBO recordings from tivo series 3 hd. to pc using tivo desktop plus

Is there any program, software or device, that will allow to transfer HBO recordings to a pc??

Also

Can someone list all HD networks that should not have copyright flag. Like ABC HD

RonDawg
09-11-2008, 03:54 PM
The only way that you can get around the copyright flag without considerable hacking (and discussion of which is in violation of the TOS) is to use an external DVD recorder. Of course the results will no longer be in HD.

As far as what channels are not supposed to be flagged, it's the OTA broadcasts: the four main networks, plus any local channels. Anything else is at the discretion of the cable provider.

hypnoticpimp
09-11-2008, 04:06 PM
so only 4 networks That are in HD. should not be flagged? can u tell me those 4 networks? there names

u said use a exteral dvd recorder to record HBO? can u recommend me a good external dvd recorder that would work

RonDawg
09-11-2008, 05:01 PM
The four main networks are ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox. There is (are) your local PBS affiliate(s) as well as local channels. None of these may be copy-flagged by your cable provider.

I am using a Sony RDR-HX900 but that model has not been sold for a long time. Just about any external DVD recorder will work. If you want the lowdown on which is better for your, AVS Forum is a great place to visit.

wmcbrine
09-11-2008, 05:53 PM
A DVD recorder is not the only way. There's a device now from Hauppauge that will record HD via component.

whalene
09-11-2008, 06:21 PM
[QUOTE=RonDawg;6672905]The four main networks are ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox. There is (are) your local PBS affiliate(s) as well as local channels. None of these may be copy-flagged by your cable provider.
QUOTE]


Don't forget about the CW.

rocko
09-11-2008, 07:18 PM
A DVD recorder is not the only way. There's a device now from Hauppauge that will record HD via component.

Muy expensivo - that plus you need a PC to actually record. That unit is basically a capture device with an IR blaster- no hard drive or storage.

But yes, it is an option.

RonDawg
09-11-2008, 07:53 PM
Don't forget about the CW.

Although technically a "network", I don't consider The CW to be in the same league as the other four.

classicsat
09-12-2008, 09:36 AM
Network or not, it is the OTA stations they cannot copy protect.

RonDawg
09-12-2008, 10:08 AM
Network or not, it is the OTA stations they cannot copy protect.

I know. I consider CW stations to be more "local" than "national" in nature.

LennyBoy
09-13-2008, 01:45 AM
i think your cable provider sets which channels aren't copyright flagged, not the networks so you should ask them which ones they have available

gastrof
09-13-2008, 04:54 PM
I know. I consider CW stations to be more "local" than "national" in nature.

All network affiliate stations are local, including those attached to PBS, NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, and The CW.

It's the networks themselves that are national.

Since The CW is a network, and it does have local affiliates, it'd fall into the same catagory as the others. And since we're talking terrestrial TV here (signals you can pick up for free OverTheAir) they're all required by law to NOT broadcast copy-protection flags.

I just wish my CW affiliate held to that the last two weeks. (Messed up my recordings of SMALLVILLE. Yes. They've been called. :D)

hypnoticpimp
09-13-2008, 10:46 PM
can someone please post a link to a good externtal DVD recover, that can work with tivo?

also u mentioned hauupage? is that for pc? or to work with tivo paste link as well

rocko
09-14-2008, 09:28 AM
can someone please post a link to a good externtal DVD recover, that can work with tivo?

also u mentioned hauupage? is that for pc? or to work with tivo paste link as well

The Happauge unit requires a PC so it may not be right for you. Here's the link:

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html

Please post what type of TV you have and what input type you would use to connect to the DVD player/recorder. Some of the new DVD recorders have only HDMI and component or S-Video outputs.

hypnoticpimp
09-14-2008, 10:19 AM
I have a standard tv. I have only S-Video input (not outpu) and standard composite A/V in the back
Its not a HD TV

Scopeman
09-14-2008, 10:31 AM
All network affiliate stations are local, including those attached to PBS, NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, and The CW. It's the networks themselves that are national.

There are (1) the national networks, (2) locally-owned affiliates of the national network stations, and (3) local stations owned directly by the national networks themselves.

The distinction between the second and third types seems minor, but it makes a big difference in many areas. The nationally-owned-locals are almost always going to mirror the policies and practices of the national network HQs, while the locally owned affiliates often do not.

For the purposes of this thread (copy flags) there may not be big a difference, but once you get into other topics like signal strength waivers, etc, it is important to know the difference between the different local station types.

rocko
09-14-2008, 11:28 AM
I have a standard tv. I have only S-Video input (not outpu) and standard composite A/V in the back
Its not a HD TV

This unit is probably a good mix of old and new - S-video/composite output for now - HDMI output and upscaling for the day you eventually get a HDTV.

http://reviews.cnet.com/dvd-recorders/toshiba-d-r410/4505-9141_7-32909146.html

hypnoticpimp
09-14-2008, 12:34 PM
with this product anyway i can transfer the recording straight to my pc instead of dvd? so i can edit it

rocko
09-14-2008, 12:38 PM
with this product anyway i can transfer the recording straight to my pc instead of dvd? so i can edit it

If you mean the Hauppauge solution, yes. There are scads of other PC capture cards for cheaper that will handle SD captures, however. The Happauge unit is different in it captures HD content. If you use an editing program like VideoReDo, it will downrezz the resulting DVD output to SD anyway.

hypnoticpimp
09-14-2008, 01:31 PM
no not speaking on happauge. I already had the Ati Tv Wonder, and that gave me problem when recording HD channes. cause it keept freezing my pc

So haupphae is out of the question.

But with tivo u can record HD content and transfer it to pc using VideoRedo?

are u saying Videoredo will convert the HD recording from tivo and reduce qulity to SD?

rocko
09-14-2008, 01:48 PM
no not speaking on happauge. I already had the Ati Tv Wonder, and that gave me problem when recording HD channes. cause it keept freezing my pc

So haupphae is out of the question.

But with tivo u can record HD content and transfer it to pc using VideoRedo?

are u saying Videoredo will convert the HD recording from tivo and reduce qulity to SD?

OK, let's see if I can wrap this up in simple terms:

Your original question involved the copy-protection flags on stuff on your Tivo. This protection prevents the transfer of recordings directly from the TiVo to your PC - so there's no way you will transfer digital recordings. Period.

Someone suggested that you could use a DVD recorder to record shows from your TiVo. There is no PC involved here so no option, directly anyway, for editing the recordings.

Another suggestion was to use the Happauge device to capture your recordings. This option does require a PC so it would give you the opportunity to edit your recordings.

I mentioned that VideoReDo would downrezz captured recording to SD format. This involves recordings already on your PC and is not a tool that will do any transferring from the TiVo.

So what are your options?

1) Use some type of capture device - Happauge, All-in-Wonder, whatever to capture the analog output from your TiVo and store it on your computer. Use whatever tool (like VideoReDo) to edit it. Burn DVDs from your computer.

2) Use a DVD recorder to capture the analog output from your TiVo and record directly to DVD. No editing capabilities but easy and cheap.

2a) There are DVD recorders that have built-in hard drives that will offer rudimentary editing capabilities. I cannot suggest any particular model. These can also be expensive

3) Use a VCR to record analog output from your TiVo.

Anyone also have any ideas? Add 'em. That's all I got.

hypnoticpimp
09-14-2008, 03:59 PM
Thanks for the reply i have tha ati tv wonder 650 USB device? can i use that to capture video from tivo?. but what software would i need?

hypnoticpimp
09-14-2008, 04:58 PM
Yes i found out how to do it with ATI. thanks

captkirk685
09-16-2008, 02:22 PM
OK, let's see if I can wrap this up in simple terms:

Your original question involved the copy-protection flags on stuff on your Tivo. This protection prevents the transfer of recordings directly from the TiVo to your PC - so there's no way you will transfer digital recordings. Period.

Someone suggested that you could use a DVD recorder to record shows from your TiVo. There is no PC involved here so no option, directly anyway, for editing the recordings.

Another suggestion was to use the Happauge device to capture your recordings. This option does require a PC so it would give you the opportunity to edit your recordings.

I mentioned that VideoReDo would downrezz captured recording to SD format. This involves recordings already on your PC and is not a tool that will do any transferring from the TiVo.

So what are your options?

1) Use some type of capture device - Happauge, All-in-Wonder, whatever to capture the analog output from your TiVo and store it on your computer. Use whatever tool (like VideoReDo) to edit it. Burn DVDs from your computer.

2) Use a DVD recorder to capture the analog output from your TiVo and record directly to DVD. No editing capabilities but easy and cheap.

2a) There are DVD recorders that have built-in hard drives that will offer rudimentary editing capabilities. I cannot suggest any particular model. These can also be expensive

3) Use a VCR to record analog output from your TiVo.

Anyone also have any ideas? Add 'em. That's all I got.

I have a dvd recorder with build in editing. It has a build in hard drive where you edit the program then transfer to dvd..its pretty cool. Its the kind that hooks up to your tv..