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appleye1
07-29-2008, 01:50 AM
I have so little clue who the Mole is, it's pitiful. It could be any of those final 3. If I had to choose I'd say Mark at this point, simply because he'd be the one that would surprise me the most and I remember being totally surprised at the moles from season 1 and 2.

Loved the challenges this week. I'm slightly acrophobic so the plank walk was especially fun for me. ;) Both challenges though were a bit simplistic for this point in the game. They're going to have to step it up next week.

So is next week the finale? Noooo! I love this show too much! Here's hoping for a reunion show too. (Didn't they do one in the first two seasons?)

getbak
07-29-2008, 03:37 AM
Well, Paul was my early pick, so I don't know who to pick now.

Of the three, Mark has acted the least like the Mole: he seems to genuinely give his full effort at all times, and seems genuinely upset when they lose money. Nicole has acted the most like the Mole throughout the game, a little too overt at times. If you assume that the real Mole would never play too much to those extremes, you have to think that Craig is the Mole. It's easy for him to get away with screwing things up by playing the "oh he's a fat guy, he's trying really hard" card.

Going into the paintball challenge, I thought that whoever won the exemption would be the Mole because it would be too easy for the producers to feed the correct solution to the Mole and they wouldn't want to give a real contestant an exemption that late in the game. All you'd have to remember is 3 words...Call, Mall, and Male (or whichever of the solutions they chose to use).

It is possible though that what they said in this episode was true, and Mark does those word puzzles a lot at home and was simply faster than Craig, who took his time "discovering" the answers thinking he was going to be the first one done (he did seem surprised that Mark had beaten him).

TiVotion
07-29-2008, 07:45 AM
I agree with the logic; same logic told me that Paul probably wasn't the Mole. I really think that anyone playing it too "over the top" would be a disappointing choice. Based on people being over the top, that, in my mind going into tonight, eliminated Paul and Nicole.

One thing about Mark that makes me reduce suspicion - and one thing alone. That "wine" game, where he had to run on the treadmill for some ridiculous amount of time, something like 30 minutes. The way the show was edited, it appeared he was understandably exhausted right at the end. It would have been so easy for the Mole to keep a LOT of money out of the pot if Mark had just fallen down during the last 10 seconds of the game. He'd been running for a very long time, and it would have been very easy to say he was exhausted, and to physically play up that exhaustion. No one could have blamed him for collapsing in the last seconds of the game. Yet, he didn't, which to me made it look too obvious that he WASN'T the Mole. If that was a swerve, it sure came at an inopportune time. I still believe, however, that Mark would have been a good selection to be the Mole.

Craig almost seems like he's hiding something, he's too even tempered, too low key. Those qualities seem Mole-ish to me. If Nicole turns out to be the Mole, I'll think she's even more of an ass for acting so overtly "Mole" during the first half of the show. Craig would be a cool choice, but at the same time, having the built-in excuse of being unable to compete on a physical level with some of the more fit contestants, thereby allowing him to throw certain contests, is kind of cheap.

But at this point, I'm going with Craig.

Donbadabon
07-29-2008, 08:21 AM
Craig all the way.

I think that all the cells had a blank eviction card in it, and they handed the real one to Craig before he went in.

Being a little slow, and lumbering, no one would be shocked that he was hit with a paintball.

So it guarantees that no one gets an eviction.

Plus, his actions on the 'board walk' seemed intentional to me.

So he is my final pick for the mole.

flyers088
07-29-2008, 08:34 AM
As long as it is not Nicole AND she does not win, I am happy with either of the guys winning.

NJ_HB
07-29-2008, 08:59 AM
Wasn't it also Craig who 'found' their clothes at the Laundromat a few episodes ago when the challenge called for them to get to dinner completely dressed? (Mole wouldn't want miss dinner.)
Mark does seem to give it his all, he was the last one in the 'chain' challenge and he did not take an exemption, he was also very distraught when the journals were burned.
I also think its Craig.

unicorngoddess
07-29-2008, 10:28 AM
My pick is Craig as the Mole, Mark as the winner.

My hubby is thinking Nicole is the Mole because her name rhymes with Mole.

I will be most surprised if Mark turns out to be the Mole. I was sure from the first episode (I think it was the first?) that Mark couldn't be the Mole because of how fast he just turned down the cab ride in that one challange. He didn't even try to stop and consider it for a little bit. But who knows, maybe the producers goal this season was to tell The Mole to do absolutely NOTHING to sabatoge the game and watch it fall apart by itself. Because in the beginning everyone did enough sabatoging that the mole didn't have to work at all.

JLucPicard
07-29-2008, 11:01 AM
Show of hands.... who didn't figure out within about 30 seconds or less the "Call-Mall-Male" connection in that game??? It cracked me UP that it took Paul as long as it did (well over 7 minutes?) to figure that out. What a maroon.

If I was a betting man and there was money to be made ;), I would bet that Craig is The Mole. The reasoning has all been stated already (Nicole was too way over the top, Mark was trying just too darn hard, Craig being able to get away with the subtle sabotage).

This has been reasonably fun summer-filler fare and I'm glad they did it, but it still doesn't touch the original (first two seasons, actually).

unicorngoddess
07-29-2008, 11:06 AM
I figured out Call-Mall-Male pretty quickly...like 20 seconds. And I've never done one of these puzzels before. Call was just the easiest word to come to mind and from there I knew it had to get to something that started with an M so mall was next and it just easily fell into place. I don't know how it could take Paul over 5 minutes to figure that out. If he weren't just eliminated, I would say that was pretty moleish.

5thcrewman
07-29-2008, 11:16 AM
I think Craig is the Mole. His actions on the plank made me think that he might actually be receiving non-reversed video.

andyw715
07-29-2008, 11:29 AM
call-mall-MALE-MOLE

the mole is not Nicole?

unicorngoddess
07-29-2008, 11:56 AM
If the Mole is NOT Nicole, I have to say that it was unfair in the quiz to ask whether the mole was male or female. If she's the only female left in the game and she's NOT the mole, she has an unfair advantage with that question...and she has for the past few rounds now I believe since I think that's a standard question on each quiz.

MasterOfPuppets
07-29-2008, 02:48 PM
Still going with Craig, although it seems like the producers are doing all they can to push us in that direction as is.

getreal
07-29-2008, 03:30 PM
I picked Craig as the Mole a long time ago. I think it was during the laundromat-clothing challenge, and the Alps/sick routine where he got an "medical exemption" and got to keep his journal that nailed it for me. Nicole is tryuing too hard to act "Moley". Also, Craig isn't sweating the execution ceremony. You'd expect a big boy like him to get all red and sweaty with stress if he was actually worried. But he's a bit too calm. Just like a Mole!

TiVotion
07-29-2008, 05:55 PM
I kind of hate to see the series end. Going in, I had low expectations for this season. While it's not as good as seasons past, it's actually exceeded my expectations by just a little bit. Overall, it's been fun. In the beginning, I was convinced I didn't like the new host, Jon, but I have to say he's been serviceable in the role. I still hold Anderson Cooper as the standard, but Jon has occasional qualities that remind me of him.

I'm anxious to see the recap when it's all over, explaining how the mole sabotaged the games, and pointing out some of the clues we've seen, and some of the clues we missed.

I wonder, based on the ratings this season, will the show be back? I haven't seen the ratings, but I can't imagine that they are spectacular.

BeanMeScot
07-29-2008, 07:00 PM
Well, there went that theory! I guess I am going with Craig now. He seemed so calm in the games this time. Mark would be the most surprising. Nicole would be surprising in a different way, she acted like a mole right from the beginning. If she is, I would say the producers told her to act like that right from the beginning.

mattack
07-29-2008, 10:46 PM
Loved the challenges this week. I'm slightly acrophobic so the plank walk was especially fun for me. ;)

I thought it would have been so funny if they were really against a bluescreen, and ~2 feet off the ground, but the blue screen used to make it look (in his goggles) that he was going between buildings.

Demandred
07-29-2008, 11:12 PM
My money is on Craig for the Mole and I'd like to see Mark win. For some reason Mark reminds me a little of Rcrew from this forum.

David Platt
07-29-2008, 11:17 PM
Craig has been one of my top picks all along for being the mole, but there's a pretty strong piece of evidence that it's NOT him-- Paul was convinced that Craig was the mole, so he obviously answered all his questions with Craig in mind. Then he was executed. It's possible he just got some questions wrong, though, since he doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed.

uncdrew
07-29-2008, 11:46 PM
I think it's Mark, but of course I have zero clue.

And I like that it's tough to figure out.



If I was the Mole I'd probably play the game harder than if I wasn't. I would be so afraid of looking "Moley" that I'd try doubly hard to complete the tasks and look like I wasn't the mole.


Hence my pick of Mark.

Then again, playing it as a buffoon would be fun too. Being such a doofus that it was just too unbelievable to be true. That would be fun.

cmgal
07-30-2008, 12:47 AM
I think the Mole is Nicole. Gut feeling.

Fool Me Twice
07-30-2008, 04:23 AM
Nicole would be surprising in a different way, she acted like a mole right from the beginning. If she is, I would say the producers told her to act like that right from the beginning.Why would it be surprising? I've watched the show without following these threads, so I'm a little surprised that everyone isn't picking Nicole. Maybe I just don't understand the game, or don't have enough game history, this being my first season. I know why you don't pick the obvious suspect in a mystery novel, but why not on this show? Every little thing about her says mole to me, and has for weeks. :confused:

Sirius Black
07-30-2008, 05:47 AM
Every little thing about her says mole to me, and has for weeks. :confused:

I think that is the reason it is too easy to pick her.

I just don't see it being Mark. He's given really strong efforts in all the challenges. Though, he did sit out a couple times early in the game. Inexplicably. Sure, he gave an excuse but it wasn't a good one and he wasn't alone either.

JLucPicard
07-30-2008, 07:17 AM
If I was the Mole I'd probably play the game harder than if I wasn't. I would be so afraid of looking "Moley" that I'd try doubly hard to complete the tasks and look like I wasn't the mole.
The thing is, it's part of The Mole's job to keep money out of the pot, and I really think if Mark is The Mole, he's really done a poor job in that regard.

cheerdude
07-30-2008, 08:55 AM
Have only seen the first episode... has this been a "decent" season?

Donbadabon
07-30-2008, 09:05 AM
I think so.
I was struggling at first, the host was really annoying me.
But as it went on, he grew on me.
It is no Season 1 or 2, but it is much better, IMO, than the Celebrity versions.

jlb
07-30-2008, 09:19 AM
I was amazed that noone....NO ONE....figured out the easy way to deal with the camera tasks (shapes in box and the plank). We all know, or should know, from at least watching the news and others sources, that if one loses their sight, the other senses end up getting heightened and actually begin to compensate for the lack of eyesight.

the shape task........the camera could completely F you up if the angle is backwards and all. Close your eyes.....use touch. Use logic. There are six sides on the cube and only 3-4 openings....IT would have been easy to do that one without sight. Of course I think they all got that one anyway.

But the plank.....the messed up camera angles could totally screw you on that one. Close your eyes...bend down...place a hand on each side of the plank...and shimmy across (periodically feeling for the chalk).

Oh well.


There was one "interview"/"diary" set of video where everyone was wearing black/dark clothes, and Nicole was wearing a bright red dress.

MasterOfPuppets
07-30-2008, 09:20 AM
It's been a good season.

Nicole could be the mole, it's just that she was so over the top when the season started that it seemed like she was desperate to make people think she was the mole.
She hasn't been anywhere near as over the top lately.
It is kind of suspicious that she told her mom that she was going to tank the test, but never did.

I still rank the likelihood of Moleness Craig, Nicole, Mark.
But I would not soil myself if it turned out that Mark was the mole either. :p

SoBelle0
07-30-2008, 09:50 AM
My money is on Craig for the Mole and I'd like to see Mark win. For some reason Mark reminds me a little of Rcrew from this forum.
I agree with you! I do so hope that Mark wins!

Aww! Where is Rcrew? Three cheers for retirement... :D

BeanMeScot
07-30-2008, 09:53 AM
Why would it be surprising? I've watched the show without following these threads, so I'm a little surprised that everyone isn't picking Nicole. Maybe I just don't understand the game, or don't have enough game history, this being my first season. I know why you don't pick the obvious suspect in a mystery novel, but why not on this show? Every little thing about her says mole to me, and has for weeks. :confused:

What happens on this show is that if one of the contestant correctly spots The Mole early in the game, they spend the rest of the game protecting The Mole. They do anything they can to appear to be The Mole so that the other contestants will answer the quiz as if the Non-Mole is the real Mole and ignore the real Mole. Then the Non-Mole is much more likely to make it farther in the game. So if someone is acting very Mole-like, they are unlikely to be The Mole.

Remember, even if you know with 100% certaintly who The Mole is, you will still lose if you don't answer the quiz questions correctly and quickly and they are VERY detailed. In the first season, the 2 final "real" contestants both knew exactly who The Mole was, but one lost to the other because they missed one question.

The only way I could see Nicole being The Mole is if the producers told her to forget trying to be stealthy and just do everything in her power to appear to be The Mole. If a contestant were looking at the game the way I described, they would tend to ignore her behavior as being TOO Mole-like and concentrate on someone else.

I forgot to add that in the first season, The Mole expressed a lot of frustration in trying to screw up challenges because the two who had guessed The Mole's identity were also trying SOOOO hard to mess up the challenges, too. The Mole was having a tough time finishing the challenge WITHOUT succeeding. They were some good players!

Penny Lane
07-30-2008, 10:12 AM
I think Nicole is the mole because she doesn't seem like she is a strong enough player to get this far without being the mole. When she made the statement to Paul about killing him without leaving a mark maybe she was talking about having him "executed" by feeding him wrong info and making him lose the quiz.

appleye1
07-30-2008, 10:30 AM
But the plank.....the messed up camera angles could totally screw you on that one. Close your eyes...bend down...place a hand on each side of the plank...and shimmy across (periodically feeling for the chalk).Being afraid of heights, the only way I could do it is sit and straddle the plank, and then pull my self across. (Gotta watch those splinters though!) I think you could do it fast enough and there's no chance of falling.

I wonder if one of the rules were that you had to stand? Seems like one of them would have thought of sitting or crawling. (Or maybe they haven't seen enough Fear Factor!)

Another thought I had (that would not work for me as it requires standing) is to turn and shuffle across the plank sideways. I think that would help with the problem with your feet gong in the wrong direction because of disorientation.

pmyers
07-30-2008, 10:44 AM
Still going with Craig as the Mole as I have for weeks.

There is NO WAY that Mark is the Mole. And if he is, he is the worst Mole in history (based on keeping money out of the pot).

bigpuma
07-30-2008, 10:48 AM
I think Nicole is the mole because she doesn't seem like she is a strong enough player to get this far without being the mole.

That is my feeling as well. I also think Craig could be the mole which means Mark probably is since I least suspect him. :p

pmyers
07-30-2008, 10:51 AM
In fact, if Mark is the Mole I'm going to be extremely p*ssed as I bet he has directly added more money to the pot than anybody else.

5thcrewman
07-30-2008, 11:27 AM
I've watched this ep a second time and I started to wonder who Paul would think was the Mole. I'm pretty sure he doesn't think it's Mark, so that leaves his suspects as Nicole and Craig (Just like the rest of us). I got the feeling that he was leaning towards suspecting Nicole, so that means it's Craig!

I also rewatched when Jon asked the final three if they were the Mole and clearly saw Craig blink rapidly as he said he wasn't the Mole.

Also, no mention of a tie so I think Nicole thinks that it's Craig too!

I expect Nicole to act really 'Mole-y' in the finale to try and throw Mark off.

Frylock
07-30-2008, 01:36 PM
I also have to go with Craig. I think Nicole and Paul both know it is Craig, but like others said, Paul doesn't pay attention. Part of the reason the game took him so long was that he didn't listen to all of the directions! How is he going to remember the order people were standing in.

I don't think it's Paul because of when the journals were burned. Craig was the only one not to lose his (who would care, he doesn't need it!) but Paul really seemed genuinely crushed when he lost that journal. He seems to be playing hard for his family, and he has worked harder than the rest to put money in the pot.

JLucPicard
07-30-2008, 02:23 PM
I don't think it's Paul because of when the journals were burned. Craig was the only one not to lose his (who would care, he doesn't need it!) but Paul really seemed genuinely crushed when he lost that journal. He seems to be playing hard for his family, and he has worked harder than the rest to put money in the pot.
I think you mean Mark.

martinp13
07-30-2008, 03:20 PM
#1 suspect for me has been Craig since week 3. When they ran the clip show and showed weeks 1 and 2 is seemed more obvious.

But now that we have the final three, it could be any of them. Craig, of course... "well, he tried...". :) Nicole could be the first "I'll act like the Mole so no one suspects I'm the Mole" Mole. And Mark is so "focused on the game" and acts SO much like a real player that you almost can't see him as the Mole. And he HAS added a lot of money to the pot.

Two things Nicole did have bugged me and make her higher on my list... she couldn't/wouldn't/didn't tank the test like she said when her Mom there, and she kept telling Paul "No, it's me" and made a big show of "Oh my gosh" when he was executed. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. "I'm going, I'm going.... what? I didn't go? How shocking! (of course, I'm the Mole, so I can't be executed)"

But my money is still on Craig. If it is him, I think he's been the worst Mole since so many people have suspected him for a while. If not, I think we viewers got fed a lot of edited crap.

uncdrew
07-30-2008, 06:09 PM
The thing is, it's part of The Mole's job to keep money out of the pot, and I really think if Mark is The Mole, he's really done a poor job in that regard.

I think the top job is to stay hidden.

mattack
07-30-2008, 10:55 PM
I also rewatched when Jon asked the final three if they were the Mole and clearly saw Craig blink rapidly as he said he wasn't the Mole.

The other two said "I am not the Mole". Mark didn't say that. I think he said something like "Craig is not the Mole".

scottykempf
07-30-2008, 11:20 PM
Craig all the way.


Plus, his actions on the 'board walk' seemed intentional to me.

So he is my final pick for the mole.

Yeah, the way he was "on the edge" of the plank numerous times seemed very fake to me, plus he took those baby steps at the end.

Frylock
07-31-2008, 08:58 AM
I think you mean Mark.

Oops, yes, I did.

sushikitten
07-31-2008, 10:31 AM
Show of hands.... who didn't figure out within about 30 seconds or less the "Call-Mall-Male" connection in that game??? It cracked me UP that it took Paul as long as it did (well over 7 minutes?) to figure that out. What a maroon.


I am good at puzzles and good with words, but my mind was frozen when trying to come up with it. I can believe it, especially if he hadn't paid attention to the directions.

TiVoJedi
07-31-2008, 12:36 PM
the shape task........the camera could completely F you up if the angle is backwards and all. Close your eyes.....use touch. Use logic. There are six sides on the cube and only 3-4 openings....IT would have been easy to do that one without sight. Of course I think they all got that one anyway.


I was laughing how Jon was talking to them like they were toddlers on this task. :)

marrone
07-31-2008, 12:50 PM
Does Jon know who the mole is? Or is he also kept in the dark (in case he slips something accidently)?

-Mike

pmyers
07-31-2008, 01:02 PM
Does Jon know who the mole is? Or is he also kept in the dark (in case he slips something accidently)?

-Mike

Good question. I would have to assume that he knows because he would need to interact with them as the Mole.

sushikitten
07-31-2008, 01:05 PM
If Nicole is not the mole, she is dumb as a rock. I loved in the soccer ball challenge, Mark did it right - give Paul a close up of his feet, then a long shot of the goal (from behind the goal). Nicole had a close-up of Craig's feet the entire time (that we saw, granted) and she was standing off to the very side...then bitched and moaned when his kick was nowhere near the goal. How could he even ATTEMPT it without seeing the goal?

I would have loved to have seen them ALL have to attempt those tasks - switch once they were over, or do a completely new set of tasks.

DancnDude
07-31-2008, 01:11 PM
I'm pretty sure the host does NOT know who the mole is so to keep things fair. Only the producers know, and they would take the time to chat with them in the diary room sessions only.

catcard
07-31-2008, 01:40 PM
Dang! I thought for sure the Mole was Paul!

Oh well, I am now thinking it is Craig or Nicole. I hope it is not Mark and he wins the money.

MasterOfPuppets
07-31-2008, 02:18 PM
Maybe the host is the mole
:p

Donbadabon
07-31-2008, 03:29 PM
In Season 1 and 2, Anderson did not know who the mole was.

They needed to make sure he didn't act differently towards one player, for fear it would give it away.

However, in Season 2, right before the last challenge, Anderson was in a car with the producers, who were discussing Bill. They had forgotten he was sitting in the back of the car. Up until that moment, he didn't know.

Elevation
07-31-2008, 05:26 PM
My vote is for Nicole. She just seemed to pair her self up with Craig too many times. There's no better way to hide your molish actions than to team up with somebody that is not seen as very capable.

mattack
07-31-2008, 11:13 PM
In Season 1 and 2, Anderson did not know who the mole was.

They needed to make sure he didn't act differently towards one player, for fear it would give it away.

However, in Season 2, right before the last challenge, Anderson was in a car with the producers, who were discussing Bill. They had forgotten he was sitting in the back of the car. Up until that moment, he didn't know.

Was that in his book?

Sirius Black
08-01-2008, 06:45 AM
The funniest thing about this is I don't think either Craig or Nicole think Mark is the mole. I don't think I've ever seen either one of them say, 'I think Mark is the mole'. At least, not for a while.

If the goal of the mole is to try and keep money out of the pot, I think the mole has failed relatively badly. They now have 380K (approximate) of 500K possible and there is still money to be handed out. That's 76% of the total money available.

Donbadabon
08-01-2008, 08:38 AM
Was that in his book?

Yes. It is really interesting.

pmyers
08-01-2008, 10:43 AM
The funniest thing about this is I don't think either Craig or Nicole think Mark is the mole. I don't think I've ever seen either one of them say, 'I think Mark is the mole'. At least, not for a while.

If the goal of the mole is to try and keep money out of the pot, I think the mole has failed relatively badly. They now have 380K (approximate) of 500K possible and there is still money to be handed out. That's 76% of the total money available.

Exactly and will be the reason why I will be pissed if Mark is the Mole. If the Mole's job is to hide his identity and throw people off their tracks, then Mark has done a fantastic job....but that hasn't been the job in the past.

getbak
08-01-2008, 04:37 PM
The funniest thing about this is I don't think either Craig or Nicole think Mark is the mole. I don't think I've ever seen either one of them say, 'I think Mark is the mole'. At least, not for a while.
Craig said it at the end of this week's episode when Jon asked each of them if they were the Mole. Craig's response was "No, Mark is the Mole."

DancnDude
08-01-2008, 04:57 PM
I would be really, really shocked if Mark is the Mole. He had prime opportunities to take money out of the pot, where nobody would have really blamed him for it, and he didn't. I do hope he wins though.

Sirius Black
08-01-2008, 05:00 PM
So is next week the final episode or are there two more episodes left? This is my first season of the show so I don't know what to expect.

DancnDude
08-01-2008, 05:09 PM
So is next week the final episode or are there two more episodes left? This is my first season of the show so I don't know what to expect.

I think there will be 2 more weeks. Typically they've had the last missions and a final quiz be one episode, and then the final episode would reveal The Mole, the winner, and a reunion of sorts. Where all the players would be there, talking to them and revealing how The Mole sabotaged missions. The preview for next week didn't mention anything about us finding out "Who is the Mole" or that it's the "Season Finale", so I'd guess this will work the same as previous seasons.

markb
08-01-2008, 06:12 PM
The funniest thing about this is I don't think either Craig or Nicole think Mark is the mole. I don't think I've ever seen either one of them say, 'I think Mark is the mole'. At least, not for a while.

If the goal of the mole is to try and keep money out of the pot, I think the mole has failed relatively badly. They now have 380K (approximate) of 500K possible and there is still money to be handed out. That's 76% of the total money available.

It's interesting that they say $500k is the max. If you look at Wikipedia's summary, the max so far is $728k. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mole_%28U.S._Season_5%29#Episode_8)

I wonder if they adjust the prize amounts as the game goes to get the final pot close to $500k? Or maybe the mole's jobs it to keep the pot from going over $500k?

getbak
08-01-2008, 06:12 PM
I think there will be 2 more weeks. Typically they've had the last missions and a final quiz be one episode, and then the final episode would reveal The Mole, the winner, and a reunion of sorts. Where all the players would be there, talking to them and revealing how The Mole sabotaged missions. The preview for next week didn't mention anything about us finding out "Who is the Mole" or that it's the "Season Finale", so I'd guess this will work the same as previous seasons.
Yes, it is showing up on my schedule for the next two Mondays.

Next week will be the final missions and the start of the quiz, then August 11 is the reveal of the winner, loser, and the Mole. The finale should also reunite all the players, and recap the previous episodes showing the method behind the Mole being the Mole.

mattack
08-01-2008, 10:47 PM
Craig said it at the end of this week's episode when Jon asked each of them if they were the Mole. Craig's response was "No, Mark is the Mole."

Err, I got it backwards, but I referred to this incident in
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6535142#post6535142

MasterOfPuppets
08-02-2008, 12:06 PM
Whoever the mole is, they should start referring to themselves as The Molester. :up:

TonyTheTiger
08-02-2008, 02:26 PM
I'm so confused I now think that I'm the mole!!!!!!

bacevedo
08-02-2008, 07:34 PM
I have said since the beginning it is Nicole, and I am sticking with it.

Did you see her moving around with the camera during the blocks challenge? She was making it as hard as possible for Craig to do that task. If she thought Craig was the mole, she wouldn't do that. She would let him mess it up on his own to confirm her suspicion - she doesn't need to fool the mole. And notice they didn't really show Craig talking about it too much on camera. I am sure he mentioned it in his "interview" and they edited it out because it was too obvious. I really doubt she is just that bad with a camera. She was moving and zooming in and out A LOT. Plus, she answered Craig's question on the blocks challenge when he asked "Is that the right one" and then acted like she was mad at herself for doing it. She is the mole and doing a great job at keeping money out of the pot but having an explanation for it. However, she just over-reacts to things that don't seem natural or normal. They seem rehearsed based on inside information.

Mark said a few episodes ago he was going for Nicole. If it wasn't her, he would be gone by now (assuming he wasn't lying). She is the only female, and that's one question on the quiz that you have no wiggle room on anymore. And with his meticilous notes, I doubt he gets many questions wrong on her. If it is Craig, and he was gunning for Nicole there is no way he would still be there. I just can't imagine many of the answers on the quiz being the same if one was going for Craig vs. Nicole (i.e. both wearing sweatshirts, both wearing hats, etc.).

And yes - the execution when Nicole was telling Paul it was her was just weird. Suddenly she is friends with a guy she "hated" the rest of the time? Trying to comfort him by saying it is her? Completely out of character, and if she isn't the mole, just plain weird.

Bryan

Elevation
08-03-2008, 10:18 AM
So are we going to have a poll?

JLucPicard
08-03-2008, 11:42 AM
I hope not. Seems the thread is doing OK as is.

TonyTheTiger
08-03-2008, 11:43 AM
If there was a poll, it would have to allow multi-votes. I vote for all three!!!!

DancnDude
08-03-2008, 02:01 PM
I say next week's thread should have the poll since we'll have that episode before the final ending.

MickeS
08-03-2008, 04:38 PM
I think Nicole is the mole because she doesn't seem like she is a strong enough player to get this far without being the mole.

That's why Paul was my pick. I was shocked when he was executed in this episode!

But Nicole is so ridiculously obvious as a Mole that I hope it's not her. Her camera work in this episode was atrocious. How could she hope to get Craig to do anything with the ridiculous close-ups?

bacevedo
08-03-2008, 06:40 PM
But Nicole is so ridiculously obvious as a Mole that I hope it's not her. Her camera work in this episode was atrocious. How could she hope to get Craig to do anything with the ridiculous close-ups?


But if Craig is the mole, and she thought it was him (hence why she was still in the game) why try to keep money out of a pot that you are trying to win? You don't need to try and fool the mole in one-on-one situations. It's not like the mole doesn't know what's going on and is going to start doubting that they are the mole. :)

If you are in the group doing something, then sure, you may try and throw people off. But when it's just you and your suspect for the mole, you watch them and try to ADD money to the pot, not the other way around.

Her camera work was so blatently obvious mole-like, that she is an idiot if she is not the mole and thought Craig was the mole. She just kept money out of a pot she is trying to win and got no closer to winning because she wasn't fooling a real contestant.

And remember, we have Mark saying he was gunning for Nicole 100%, and then Paul saying there is no way he suspects Nicole is the mole. Hmmn - Mark still in, Paul out. Of course that could be editing to throw us to Nicole, but I think the producers are doing that on purpose, to make people not suspect her. We are waiting for that reality show "twist" based on editing. I think the mole producers are pretty intelligent and are using this to their advantage this season to throw us on to everyone else.

Bryan

flyers088
08-03-2008, 09:28 PM
If Nicole is not the mole, she has created a new way to play the game that might ruin future seasons. There may be no money in the pot with so many acting like the mole to draw attention to themselves.

TriBruin
08-04-2008, 11:34 AM
If Nicole is not the mole, she has created a new way to play the game that might ruin future seasons. There may be no money in the pot with so many acting like the mole to draw attention to themselves.


There has always been cases where a "non-mole" player acts like the mole. Especially if that player is sure of the mole, they will act moleish and try to deceive other players.

However, if Nicole is not the mole, she has taken it to a new level.

markb
08-04-2008, 08:41 PM
If Nicole is not the mole, she has created a new way to play the game that might ruin future seasons.

If there are future seasons. Doesn't sound like the producers are optimistic:

http://www.savethemole.com/

Einselen
08-04-2008, 09:43 PM
If there are future seasons. Doesn't sound like the producers are optimistic:

http://www.savethemole.com/

Odd that this is the first time I have heard of this. I think think ABC would not allow the producers to "advertise" the site on the show. That I find odd as I would think ABC would want more viewership.

JLucPicard
08-04-2008, 10:32 PM
I'm sorry, I enjoy The Mole and all, but I'm not about to start having 'The Mole screening parties' and 'tell ten friends and have them tell ten friends' etc.

If I find a show I enjoy, I talk with my friends and co-workers about it in conversation. I guess I don't get that invested in television shows to go on a crusade for them, though.

MickeS
08-05-2008, 12:28 AM
I'm sorry, I enjoy The Mole and all, but I'm not about to start having 'The Mole screening parties' and 'tell ten friends and have them tell ten friends' etc.

If I find a show I enjoy, I talk with my friends and co-workers about it in conversation. I guess I don't get that invested in television shows to go on a crusade for them, though.

Same here. I hated that Journayman" was canceled, and I sent an email to NBC about it... that's the extent to which I will do things to try and save a show. It's just TV. :)