6.4a is here

[dcstager]

Checked the MFS of my Hughes SD-DVR80 and noticed that software version 6.4a-01-2-151 has been sent over the satellite. Have not seen mention of this or any discussion yet. It could be the update with the online scheduling, but I don't know.

Superpatch people please get working on this one! I want to try the slicer on this...

http://www.dvrplayground.com/article/13324/

[litzdog911]

Hmmm. This may be the release we've been waiting for to provide Remote Scheduling and some other promised features.

[T1V0]

dcstager, check your pm..

[Gunnyman]

I have it on one of my units too
I wonder if (please please please) they put the HMO code back?
If it's there I'll upgrade both of my units. If not, I'm sticking on 6.2a

[dcstager]

I haven't updated yet -- it's just there in the MFS. I am using 6.2a which is hacked with everything and running flawlessly so I don't want to change it. I use the MRV feature frequently, so I don't want to risk losing that.

If Tivo Desktop worked on it, I'd upgrade for sure. I'm not interested in pulling things off of it and burning DVDs -- I want to be able to put things on it and watch things on the Tivo.

[Gunnyman]

Mine is just in mfs too holding off on installing.

[schaeferp]

Does this have the recently deleted folder?

[T1V0]

Some interesting things in there..
like the new '/tvlib/tcl/apg/GenRemoteRecordingData.tcl' script and some additions to '/tvlib/tcl/tv/DbEnum.tcl' for additional wireless security settings. Probably just leftover from the SA sw line this was split from.

[magnus]

Well, I can't imagine that Tivo would release that kind of software.... MRV and Tivo Desktop that works with D*.... unless D* were going to place nice with them.

It kind of defeats the point of having Real Tivo over DTivo.


I haven't updated yet -- it's just there in the MFS. I am using 6.2a which is hacked with everything and running flawlessly so I don't want to change it. I use the MRV feature frequently, so I don't want to risk losing that.

If Tivo Desktop worked on it, I'd upgrade for sure. I'm not interested in pulling things off of it and burning DVDs -- I want to be able to put things on it and watch things on the Tivo.

[T1V0]

Does this have the recently deleted folder?

Looks like it :
bash# strings tivoapp | grep Deleted
/atlas_nowplaying/ui/NowPlaying/TvNowPlayingDeletedProgram.brf
34TvNowPlayingDeletedProgramDocument
/atlas_nowplaying/ui/NowPlaying/TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroup.brf
39TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroupDocument
atlas_nowplaying:TvNowPlayingDeletedProgram
22SiDocumentScreenPluginI13TvAtlasScreen34TvNowPlayingDelete dProgramDocumentE
40TvNowPlayingItemCellCreator_DeletedGroup
NowPlaying:DeletedGroup
NowPlaying:DeletedProgram
atlas_nowplaying:TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroup
31TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroup
14SiScreenPluginI31TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroupE

also :
bash# strings tivoapp | grep Undeleted
Undeleted by user
Undeleted by user
Undeleted by service

this looks very much like similar strings found in 9.x software on my SA boxes.

[T1V0]

Well, I can't imagine that Tivo would release that kind of software.... MRV and Tivo Desktop that works with D*.... unless D* were going to place nice with them.

It kind of defeats the point of having Real Tivo over DTivo.

I agree. A cursory glance at the software suggests that the only new features are the ones that were formally announced. I can't verify whether or not these things are actually activated yet, since I'm not upgrading either way.

[JimSpence]

Can I assume that this will be coming to my HR10-250 as well? Since it seems to be following the SD series 2 units.

[dcstager]

I'm willing to be a guinea pig here and do an upgrade to 6.4a via slicer for the benefit of the Tivo community. However, my unit is zippered and I'd like some assurance from Gunnyman or T1VO or someone knowledgable that the telnet, ftp, cron/fakecall stuff continues to run. I forget exactly what slicer copies and preserves. I realize the tivoapp will not be patched and the recordings will be encrypted and so on, but it's essential that the machine operate without the telephone connection.

Can anyone offer some reassurance on this to me?

[T1V0]

tnlited (telnet daemon) is still in there and serial bash should definitely still work the same way. I have no idea what the slicer does or looks for since its source code isn't available, but this really shouldn't be much different than any other upgrade. the only issue I could forsee would be an incompatibility between the native usb drivers and a killhdinitrd'd kernel (similar to issues experienced by SA users when 8.1 first rolled out).

My recommendation would be to do a very simple manual upgrade to just retain serial bash first, minimizing the initial hacking, and giving a chance to poke around with less fear of something going wrong. that way if there is a driver incompatibility or something like that, the chances of having to pull the drive are greatly reduced. this can be done with as few as 5 or so commands. pm me if you want some assistance.

[dcstager]

During slicer, it prompts asking if you want to preserve the backported usb drivers. Obviously, this release has some network drivers of its own. If I preserve the backported drivers, the killhdinitrd'd kernel should still work, right? I'm wondering if the new software requires a new kernel to work with the new features? If it does install a new kernel in the upgrade, I think I'm going to be hosed here. I don't know how to patch the new kernel if one is installed and I'll have to do it before it reboots but after the slicer installs the upgrade. I'm breaking the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" rule big time here. My system has never been more stable or useful as it is now. But... I'm probably going to retire it soon anyway because the standard definition video is so obsolete and the HD looks so good.

[T1V0]

If I preserve the backported drivers, the killhdinitrd'd kernel should still work, right?
it should. that was the fix for 8.x users.
I'm wondering if the new software requires a new kernel to work with the new features?
very, very doubtful. these things are usually controlled by tivoapp.
If it does install a new kernel in the upgrade, I think I'm going to be hosed here.
that's why you (or slicer) replace the new kernel with the one you had been previously using before rebooting the box.
But... I'm probably going to retire it soon anyway because the standard definition video is so obsolete and the HD looks so good.

agreed. that's why I don't have any active SD directivos any more.

[T1V0]

the only issue I could forsee would be an incompatibility between the native usb drivers and a killhdinitrd'd kernel (similar to issues experienced by SA users when 8.1 first rolled out).

this does appear to be an issue. loading the 6.4a usbnet.o with a 7.2.2 kill'd kernel causes a crash. using backported drivers instead should work though.

[dcstager]

I'm pretty sure I have the 3.1.5 kernel on mine. I recall it had a problem with DHCP and I have to use static addressing. Since 6.4a has a full network configuration screen including wireless and encryption I'm just wondering if the old kernel will work with the new software's network features even if I retain the backported drivers.

I'm going to sleep on it. I can always re-image to 6.2a and the TV season is essentially just about over anyway.

I think I'm going to regret this...

[T1V0]

I recall it had a problem with DHCP and I have to use static addressing.
DHCP seems to be broken in this release anyways, since dhclient and dhclient-script are missing just like in 6.3f.
Since 6.4a has a full network configuration screen including wireless and encryption I'm just wondering if the old kernel will work with the new software's network features even if I retain the backported drivers.
I doubt it has an actual network screen (without modifications at least). Networking should be easily hacked in though. I highly doubt official networking will ever be present on these boxes.

[Gunnyman]

dstager
Thanks for guinea pigging for us :)

[dcstager]

I'm watching Geraldo Rivera talking about Ted Kennedy and as soon as that's over, I'm going to force the update and report back. I'm sure it's a big nothing and I'll be re-imaging from scratch tomorrow. I hope CrashHD and/or the many others will look into creating a superpatch for this version. I'm prepared to be underwhelmed -- but I'll let you know. I read somewhere that you'll be able to use Tivo Desktop with this and enable/disable it at the Tivo site just like you do now with the standalone tivos. Something like that will be set up at the DirecTV site I think. A last gasp before the death of standard definition satellite.

[Gunnyman]

I'm sure the super patch diffs will be discovered quickly.
I just hope the HMO strings are back in
I doubt they are, but hey I can dream.

[dcstager]

Okay... 6.4a-01-2-151 has been installed and is working. Almost no visual difference at all to previous versions.

Under Now Playing there is a Recently Deleted folder so you can restore programs you previously deleted.

Under Channels, the channel list now looks like the latest standalone software. You have a channel list where you tag your favorite channels instead of a separate menu item where you pick your favorite channels and channels you receive.

Under Recording, there is now an option for Overlap Protection which can be enabled or disabled.

Under Audio there are some new choices about how to handle Dolby Digital which differ cosmetically from 6.2a

Under Phone, there is no network option or network setup screen at all.

MRV does not work anymore. I retained backported drivers and I can still telnet to it just fine.

The 30 second skip feature can be toggled on and off as usual with Select - Play - Select - 3 - 0 - Select.

I'm going to assume this is just a minor update/bug fix release - nothing major at all and it does not appear that the enhanced features promised by DirecTV as "coming soon" are in this software release.

Maybe this will fix some people's rebooting problems. Not much to be gained by the upgrade. Okay superpatch people, do your stuff.

[Gunnyman]

well of course MRV is gone, you aren't superpatched yet :D

[dcstager]

I didn't think of that. One thing I'm going to need some immediate help with... fakecall.tcl does not work with this version. "fakecall failed" is the response when you try and run it manually. I noticed that after rebooting it a few times and re-running tweak.sh to make sure all was in order - turns out it isn't. I noticed that the last successful call entry on the system information screen didn't update. Not sure what may be wrong or if there is a newer version than what comes with tweak.sh. Oh boy.

Update: Alphawolf's fakecall.tcl from DDB works, so that's a relief.

[Dkerr24]

6.4a... aka... beta test for our customers. Their motto must be 'Live on the edge, test in production'. lol

[T1V0]

I'm going to assume this is just a minor update/bug fix release - nothing major at all and it does not appear that the enhanced features promised by DirecTV as "coming soon" are in this software release.

No..this is the release talked about by Directv. The listed features were recently deleted folder, remote booking, and overlap protection. I know you seem to think Directv will enable networking/TTG for directivo's, but trust me, it will NEVER officially happen. EVER. PERIOD. They never stated it would be made available. This is probably the end of the line for directivo users aside from bug fixes.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P4330098&CMP=EMC-MQ-OM&ATT=120-4H-070809final&m=1204H0005yn3m00407402d

[dcstager]

How will the remote scheduling be implimented? Network connection or via dial in?

[DVDKingdom]

How will the remote scheduling be implimented? Network connection or via dial in?
The remote booking is done over the SAT on DirecTV inhouse units. It may work through the SAT for TiVos too with this update.

[T1V0]

The remote booking is done over the SAT on DirecTV inhouse units. It may work through the SAT for TiVos too with this update.

That's certainly what it looks like. Delivering that information via the sat requires no customer interaction/troubleshooting, which saves directv time, money and human/technical resources. I highly doubt that DHCP functionality would have been broken (dhclient (http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_dhclient.htm) is removed) if networking were to be officially enabled.

[stevel]

The MRV code is missing in 6.3 and later releases and cannot be enabled with a patch.

Yes, the remote booking is handled over the satellite - no network or dialin is required.

[Gunnyman]

has someone deconstructed the new tivoapp to see if perchance Tivo snuck it back in?

[dcstager]

Just to see what would happen, I went to the DVR scheduler section at the DirecTV site and tried to schedule a program. It said I didn't have the right kind of receiver and passed me on to a screen where I could upgrade. If the online guide click screen is ever activated for Tivo powered DVRs, it will be very nice. How they are going to do this over the satellite? I'm just wondering technically how it will be done - if it is ever done. The original announcement said Tivo DVR online scheduling "coming soon."

[magnus]

I'm going to go out on a limb with you and say.... no they are not going to even do bug fixes.

No..this is the release talked about by Directv. The listed features were recently deleted folder, remote booking, and overlap protection. I know you seem to think Directv will enable networking/TTG for directivo's, but trust me, it will NEVER officially happen. EVER. PERIOD. They never stated it would be made available. This is probably the end of the line for directivo users aside from bug fixes.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P4330098&CMP=EMC-MQ-OM&ATT=120-4H-070809final&m=1204H0005yn3m00407402d

[magnus]

I would think it would work the same as ordering PPV over the website. It sends a signal over the satellite to authorize your boxes to be able to record the program. So, I would think the same would apply for online scheduling.


Just to see what would happen, I went to the DVR scheduler section at the DirecTV site and tried to schedule a program. It said I didn't have the right kind of receiver and passed me on to a screen where I could upgrade. If the online guide click screen is ever activated for Tivo powered DVRs, it will be very nice. How they are going to do this over the satellite? I'm just wondering technically how it will be done - if it is ever done. The original announcement said Tivo DVR online scheduling "coming soon."

[dcstager]

I would think it would work the same as ordering PPV over the website. It sends a signal over the satellite to authorize your boxes to be able to record the program. So, I would think the same would apply for online scheduling.

Yeah, that makes sense. Also, there have been times when I lost the locals and had to reauthorize at their web site -- it was just about instantaneous. It's just amazing such things are possible, so I suppose online scheduling isn't such a stretch.

I'm wondering what changes are involved with the Tivo software concerning this? Since I've installed the latest offering, it must be there. I suppose that DirecTV has to set something up on their web site to add Tivo DVRs to their master list of receivers that can do online scheduling.

As a note to others, the MRV keyring entry in /State/Keyring was not deleted during the upgrade. It may be just a vestige of 6.2a, but I'm still hoping the feature remains -- it's one of the most useful Tivo features going.

I'm going to try Tivo Desktop and see if that syncs up with it. In the copyright notices for the new software it mentions inclusion of the Apple Bonjour networking stuff, so maybe there is some hope that networking in there.

What was that mention in a previous post about all the wireless configuration options in 6.4a? They are not accessable by any of the menus, but I'm sure our online geniuses will find the patch to enable that stuff.

[RandCfilm]

dcstager, you could really try to guinea pig your unit if you want to try these locations. I do not have 6.4a on any of my units. Please read before continuing

POSSIBLE "confirmed by CrashHD only at this time 5-24-2008" new location patches 6.4a only. This information is for persons with higher pay grades to confirm.
DO NOT "confirmed by CrashHD only at this time 5-24-2008" try these locations without confirmation from the higher authorities as I used a very crude method to locate the possible new locations. Unless of course you want to screw your unit.

#No encryption (DEC) 1598904 orig 0c16a402
#30-second skip (DEC) 6883312 orig 1440002b
#Backdoors (DEC) 2806144 orig 00008021
#HMO/HME
(DEC) 906328 orig 00408821
(DEC) 1119964 orig 00408021
(DEC) 5874104 orig 14400014
#Free Trial (DEC) 920520 orig 0c1445a9
#OSD Message (DEC) 6895320 orig 0c3289f7


If the jump to locations remain the same as 6.3f then this is what the command would be. TEST AT YOUR OWN RISK "confirmed by CrashHD only at this time 5-24-2008"

Disable encryption:
echo -ne "\x3C\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=1598904

30sec skip:
echo -ne "\x10\x40\x00\x2b" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=6883312

Backdoors
echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=2806144

HMO/HME
echo -ne "\x34\x11\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=906328
echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=1119964
echo -ne "\x10\x00\x00\x14" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=5874104

removes *TiVo Plus features (trial ends today)
echo -ne "\x24\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=920520

[T1V0]

As a note to others, the MRV keyring entry in /State/Keyring was not deleted during the upgrade. It may be just a vestige of 6.2a, but I'm still hoping the feature remains -- it's one of the most useful Tivo features going.
That's normal. the tivo won't rubbish a key unless it's explicitly looking for it. You can create an MRV key on an HR10 if you want, it just won't do anything.
I'm going to try Tivo Desktop and see if that syncs up with it. In the copyright notices for the new software it mentions inclusion of the Apple Bonjour networking stuff, so maybe there is some hope that networking in there.
Doubtful. The Bonjour notice appeared in 6.3. Again, dhcp functionality was REMOVED from this release. That doesn't seem hopeful for built-in networking.
What was that mention in a previous post about all the wireless configuration options in 6.4a? They are not accessable by any of the menus, but I'm sure our online geniuses will find the patch to enable that stuff.
I deleted much of that post to avoid confusion. Most of this stuff that we hack in is there because tivo has obviously modularized alot of their code to make compilation simpler. It's much easier to have a single code base for all machines, and just compile it differently for each platform. This is why there are remnants of SA features in later Directv sw versions. But, something as simple as './configure --platform-DTVS2 --disable-MRV' could add or not add the MRV portion of the code base.

[snickerrrrs]

6.4a... aka... beta test for our customers. Their motto must be 'Live on the edge, test in production'. lol


I'm not a guinea pig! I'm a human being! :D

[grecorj]

This is great news...looking forward to both remote scheduling and overlap protection....

[rminsk]

I'm not a guinea pig! I'm a human being! :DYou are Number six.

[dcstager]

I'm not quite brave enough to make the attempt to apply untested tivoapp patches, so I will wait until one of the masters posts a tested superpatch -- which hopefully will be coming soon.

I noticed that the machine isn't making service downloads in the middle of the night anymore. It did it every day with 6.2a, but not since 6.4a was installed.

[macizcool]

So is there any chance that 6.4a is faster than 6.2? My machine is so slow... I am mainly referring to the programming guide.

[jgriffin7]

My HR10-250 now shows up in the DVR Scheduler dropdown on D*'s web site. I've sent a request to it to record a show today; I'll see if it works when I get home.

[ForrestB]

You are Number six.

Who is Number One?

[dcstager]

Speed is about the same. I never noticed any speed problems with 6.2a though.

Mine doesn't seem to work with remote scheduling. When I try I get the message: "You do not have a receiver that supports the digital video recording feature." Any tips? I'm just logging in, going to the DVR scheduler, and selecting record to receiver from the guide data grid.

[rminsk]

Who is Number One?The new Number 2.

Lets see if we can do the whole scene backwards

[rminsk]

Speed is about the same. I never noticed any speed problems with 6.2a though.

Mine doesn't seem to work with remote scheduling. When I try I get the message: "You do not have a receiver that supports the digital video recording feature." Any tips? I'm just logging in, going to the DVR scheduler, and selecting record to receiver from the guide data grid.If it is like the HR2x they will slowly activate accounts to use the remote scheduler. It took over a month for my account to be activated for my HR20-700. It took another month for my account to be activated on the mobile scheduler (m.directv.com)

[RandCfilm]

I'm not quite brave enough to make the attempt to apply untested tivoapp patches, so I will wait until one of the masters posts a tested superpatch -- which hopefully will be coming soon.Smart man to heed the warning "may screw your unit" :)
I still do not have 6.4a on any three of my units

[schaeferp]

I still do not have 6.4a on any three of my unitsSame Here. When my 30 second skip disappears without a power failure I should have it.
There is nothing I will use from this besides the recently deleted folder and I doubt if I will ever use that. I have not accidentally deleted anything in years.

[dtremain]

Under Channels, the channel list now looks like the latest standalone software. You have a channel list where you tag your favorite channels instead of a separate menu item where you pick your favorite channels and channels you receive.This came with 6.3e.

[dcstager]

If they can get the remote scheduling working, that's probably worth the upgrade and I'm sure I'll use that frequently.

[Gunnyman]

I use it now on 6.2a and tivoweb. :)

[tivoupgrade]

And the ability to do more than just schedule from anywhere...

TiVo Remote Access (GoToMyDVR) (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=312804)

[Gunnyman]

Gotomydvr rules!

[stevel]

But "Remote Booking" does not require hacking.

[dcstager]

For whatever reason - probably something I did wrong somewhere -- gotomydvr would not run on my DVR under 6.3f or 6.4a. The interface for remote booking on the DirecTV site is pretty ideal -- if they would just turn it on for the Tivo people.

I wonder when the official rollout of 6.4a is supposed to happen? I imagine I have it up and running before DirecTV was ready to actually support it. Still not downloading any service data since the upgrade. Maybe that isn't necessary any more.

[tivoupgrade]

For whatever reason - probably something I did wrong somewhere -- gotomydvr would not run on my DVR under 6.3f or 6.4a. The interface for remote booking on the DirecTV site is pretty ideal -- if they would just turn it on for the Tivo people.

I wonder when the official rollout of 6.4a is supposed to happen? I imagine I have it up and running before DirecTV was ready to actually support it. Still not downloading any service data since the upgrade. Maybe that isn't necessary any more.

TiVo/DIRECTV broke http_get; did you replace with the one attached in the first post of the thread? I think that is where it is, I have to check.

If that wasn't the reason, I'm not sure why it wouldn't work for you. When I get 6.4a, I'll look again and try to update things as best as possible.

[dcstager]

gotomydvr lets you run tivoweb remotely and tivoweb allows you to schedule manual recordings when you know the date, time and channel. The DirecTV interface is of course a lot better than that and as pointed out, does not require hacking. Seriously, the only thing I want is to be able to PUT THINGS ONTO the Tivo. I don't want to rip TV shows to disc. Directv's quality is now less than Super Video CD - even if I wanted to do it, the quality is poor even under the ideal situation of the Directivo which records the actual stream unmodified.

The tivoserver alpha application worked great with 6.2a and the Tivo's built-in MRV. If they decide to enable the regular Tivo Desktop or Desktop Plus -- even limited to put things onto the Tivo, I'd be happy with that. Running Tivo Desktop now, my home computer detects the Directivo, but won't work and directs me to the Tivo site to enable transfers and of course the Directivo isn't tracked on the Tivo site, so you can't enable it.

I wish DirecTV and Tivo would syncronize their watches.

[tivoupgrade]

I wish DirecTV and Tivo would syncronize their watches.

Amen to that. Unfortunately, DIRECTV's watch is solar powered and has been in a sock drawer for a few years...

... on my own TV I just decommissioned my HR10-250 and connected a Series 3; the ability to pull XVID onto the TiVo (shared with Desktop Plus) worked very well and with minimal effort.

I would not expect DIRECTV to do anything with the TiVo platforms (remember, its ultimately their decision on what functionality to release) that will put their current platform in a negative light or it will cause even more confusion that already existed when they began that transition several years ago.

I do hope that the Series3 architecture eventually finds its way onto the DIRECTV road map again one day, but until then, my DIRECTV boxes are for 'professional use only'...

[dcstager]

Regarding gotomydvr -- the application runs and doesn't crash, however, I can not connect remotely anymore. Tivoweb will run locally but with gotomydvr not working, I can't use it remotely. Also, the caller-id program does not work either under 6.4a, yet it does not crash. Occasionally, under 6.2a caller id would have a long delay before displaying the number if the CPU was busy. But, I couldn't get anything to display at all with 6.4a. It's possible they have speeded up the program or are using higher CPU priority or something. It runs 5 C degrees hotter under 6.4a. The upgrade also took three hours off the recording capacity of the DVR.

[RandCfilm]

For whatever reason - probably something I did wrong somewhere -- gotomydvr would not run on my DVR under 6.3f or 6.4a. The interface for remote booking on the DirecTV site is pretty ideal -- if they would just turn it on for the Tivo people.I logged onto DirecTV today and the TV Listing for record, all my HR10-250 were listed to select. You might give it a try on the 6.4a unit just to see if it works for you. I tried it and of course it did not set a recording, hence 6.3f. I did get email that I requested recording to be scheduled.

[dcstager]

I have been trying it every day since the upgrade. Is still says "You do not have a receiver that supports the digital video recording feature."

[snickerrrrs]

I'm guessing a separate IT group does software releases and another does the Web site. Or they won't make changes to the site till the roll out is almost complete. Has anyone else here received 6.4a or just dcstager?

[RandCfilm]

I have been trying it every day since the upgrade. Is still says "You do not have a receiver that supports the digital video recording feature."Here is the cut and paste from email I received. Not sure why it allowed me to try to schedule a recording.


DVR Scheduler Confirmation

Dear XXXX XXXXXX,
We have received your record request from directv.com. Please see the details of your request below:

Judge Maria Lopez on Channel 4 WTTV on 5/20/08 at 12:00 PM EDT
(If you ordered a Pay Per View title, it will expire 24 hours after viewing begins.)

DVR #: xxxx-xxxx-1734
Location: TV Room
Update Location >>

We hope you enjoy this title and all future viewings. If you'd like to record more programs return to TV & Pay Per View >>

When you're on the go, schedule your recordings anytime, anywhere by going to m.directv.com on your mobile phone.

[manhole]

I sure hope they push this out to those of us with Samsung units. I am still stuck on 6.3e with 2 - 3 reboots per week.

[dtremain]

I sure hope they push this out to those of us with Samsung units. I am still stuck on 6.3e with 2 - 3 reboots per week.Ditto.

[dcstager]

Has anyone else got it running besides me? Is anyone working on a superpatch?

[Gunnyman]

since MRV is GONE from software after 6.2a, I'm staying where I am.

[RandCfilm]

Has anyone else got it running besides me? Is anyone working on a superpatch?Still nothing on my units. DC If you could get me the slice file for GZcore, GZhpk-Series2, and utils. I would like to compare to 6.3f to see what changed files have been made. Then I could insert the changed files and upgrade that way. They only thing is the GZcore file is 12M, GZhpk 2M, so you would have to use yousendit or some other free hosting service to place the files do I could get them. You can use TWP to get the slice files easily.

[SteelersFan]

since MRV is GONE from software after 6.2a, I'm staying where I am.
+1 :up: "Nothin' beats a Zippered 6.2a S2DTivo!" :D

[dcstager]

I sacrificed my stable and optimized 6.2a setup just to see what 6.4a was all about and to share it with the Tivo Community. RandCFilm - I'm afraid I lack the skill to get you the slices you are asking for. But, I'm going to be patient here and wait for everyone else to get this software and hopefully a superpatch is possible. I do have a virgin re-imaged drive ready to pop back in and revert to 6.2a, but I'm going to leave 6.4a alone for a while and see what develops.

I'm also wondering if there is an application available or could be developed that would do the same thing as 6.2a's built-in multiple room viewing (MRV). That is just the handiest thing for migrating .avi files from the computer to watch on the Tivo. I'd sure like to keep 6.4a 's new features, especially when remote scheduling is available.

The utilities for soft-padding and recovering deleted programs are already out there, so the only benefit to 6.4a is the nice DirecTV interface to do remote scheduling. Maybe it solves or mitigates the re-booting problems, but since I didn't have that problem before, I don't know.

I must say I have to agree that 6.2a zippered is the gold standard for a Directivo. However, how much longer am I going to keep the thing? The fuzzy standard definition picture is hard to tolerate when HD is available. If only that darn Comcast Tivo software could be optimized and placed in wide release -- that's going to be the death of the standard definition Directivo. The Directivo is just so useful and optimal for just about everything. Why in the world didn't DirecTV stick with that as their software? Yes, I know money, profits, etc.

It's crazy. The Tivo/DirecTV integrated unit is the best interface available bar none. Just make that unit with the new MPEG-4 HD / DirecTV and you've got the ideal piece of consumer electronics. Tivo really has built a better mousetrap here.

Why don't they ever listen to the customer?

[tivoupgrade]

I sacrificed my stable and optimized 6.2a setup just to see what 6.4a was all about and to share it with the Tivo Community. RandCFilm - I'm afraid I lack the skill to get you the slices you are asking for. But, I'm going to be patient here and wait for everyone else to get this software and hopefully a superpatch is possible. I do have a virgin re-imaged drive ready to pop back in and revert to 6.2a, but I'm going to leave 6.4a alone for a while and see what develops.

I'm also wondering if there is an application available or could be developed that would do the same thing as 6.2a's built-in multiple room viewing (MRV). That is just the handiest thing for migrating .avi files from the computer to watch on the Tivo. I'd sure like to keep 6.4a 's new features, especially when remote scheduling is available.

The utilities for soft-padding and recovering deleted programs are already out there, so the only benefit to 6.4a is the nice DirecTV interface to do remote scheduling. Maybe it solves or mitigates the re-booting problems, but since I didn't have that problem before, I don't know.

I must say I have to agree that 6.2a zippered is the gold standard for a Directivo. However, how much longer am I going to keep the thing? The fuzzy standard definition picture is hard to tolerate when HD is available. If only that darn Comcast Tivo software could be optimized and placed in wide release -- that's going to be the death of the standard definition Directivo. The Directivo is just so useful and optimal for just about everything. Why in the world didn't DirecTV stick with that as their software? Yes, I know money, profits, etc.

It's crazy. The Tivo/DirecTV integrated unit is the best interface available bar none. Just make that unit with the new MPEG-4 HD / DirecTV and you've got the ideal piece of consumer electronics. Tivo really has built a better mousetrap here.

Why don't they ever listen to the customer?

I am watching this thread in anticipation of users' first experiences with 6.4, as well. I agree that 6.2a is the most stable, and offers the most [hidden] functionality, so far.

If anyone is able to provide the unencrypted slices, I will put them on my server, as I've done with previous versions. They can then be downloaded manually or with the slicer -d option.

dcstager... in my own home, I finally gave up on DIRECTV and went with the Series3. The additional features, speed, etc were absolutely worth it. I jumped from the HR10-250 and would not have been happy if I'd had to step into an HR20/HR21 in order to receive the newer MPEG-4 channels.

It will be interesting to see how things play out in the next couple of years; I hope sooner or later DIRECTV sees the light and they and TiVo come to some sort of agreement to bring the Series3 architecture to their family of DVRs. I don't think it is likely, though. And I'd love to be wrong about that.

Lou

[JimSpence]

I'm patiently waiting for 6.4a to be loaded on my HR10-250. This unit does show up on the DirecTV's DVR scheduling page.

[dcstager]

I did manually load 6.4a using slicer and it is working with no problems. It has the "Recently Deleted" folder in the Now Playing list, and Overlap Protection as a setting in the sub-menus. The remote scheduling feature is not working for me, and I'm certain DirecTV simply has the throw the switch and enable it on their web site for Tivo users. It is available for their hardware with the note that the feature is "coming soon" for Tivo DVRs. It seems that the software is there on my end, but not yet set up on the DirecTV end.

If some version of Tivo Desktop was available -- even limited to uploading recordings to the Tivo, I'd be fine with that. I don't want to rip poor quality video from the Directivo. It's not worth preserving. I would like to be able to have the Amazon Unbox downloads, so maybe a cash influx to DirecTV from that source would be a carrot for them to add a little functionality.

So much is available from so many sources nowadays, the Directivo's utility is getting limited. I can get a perfect picture off the air at no cost with a Series 3 and upload anything and everything onto it. Video on demand is going to be the future and any box that can't do it is a boat anchor or will be soon.

Every studio is digitizing their entire library - I'll be pulling up episodes of "Captain Nice" someday or maybe all those great TV dramas by Rod Serling or Paddy Chayefsky from the 1950's. The ability to PUT STUFF ONTO the box is what needs developing.

[dthreet]

Well I just tested DVR Scheduler using 6.4a and its working.

[CrashHD]

#No encryption (DEC) 1598904 orig 0c16a402
Disable encryption:
echo -ne "\x3C\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=1598904

Confirmified! Further tests forthcoming.

[CrashHD]

#30-second skip (DEC) 6883312 orig 1440002b
#30sec skip:
echo -ne "\x10\x40\x00\x2b" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=6883312

Also confirmified!

[CrashHD]

#Backdoors (DEC) 2806144 orig 00008021
seek=1598904

Backdoors
echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=2806144
This patch also tests successfully. Hopefully I will have them all tested before the end of the day.

[CrashHD]

Go to post 194, this thread, for a better way to superpatch your 6.4a

POSSIBLE new location patches 6.4a only. This information is for persons with higher pay grades to confirm.
I certainly don't have a higher pay grade, but I can say so much as "It works for me!" Excellent work finding those!


DO NOT try these locations without confirmation from the higher authorities as I used a very crude method to locate the possible new locations. Unless of course you want to screw your unit.
All crudeness aside, it's simple and it works. Only the work of engineers or politicians could wreck something like that:eek:



#No encryption (DEC) 1598904 orig 0c16a402
#30-second skip (DEC) 6883312 orig 1440002b
#Backdoors (DEC) 2806144 orig 00008021
#HMO/HME
(DEC) 906328 orig 00408821
(DEC) 1119964 orig 00408021
(DEC) 5874104 orig 14400014
#Free Trial (DEC) 920520 orig 0c1445a9
#OSD Message (DEC) 6895320 orig 0c3289f7

Disable encryption:
echo -ne "\x3C\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=1598904

30sec skip:
echo -ne "\x10\x40\x00\x2b" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=6883312

Backdoors
echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=2806144

HMO/HME
echo -ne "\x34\x11\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=906328
echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=1119964
echo -ne "\x10\x00\x00\x14" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=5874104
removes *TiVo Plus features (trial ends today)
echo -ne "\x24\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=920520

I have tested all of these, except for the OSD message patch. They all work on my HR10 w/6.4a. I have packaged all of these up in one script. It mounts / rw, copies the running tivoapp to tivoapp.tmp, patches tivoapp.tmp, backs up tivoapp as /tvbin/tivoapp.6.4a.original, swaps the patched tivoapp.tmp in as tivoapp, and remounts / ro. Thus far, it has only been tested on my unit. It should be considered beta quality stuff until a few more users report back with success, so don't use it yet unless you know how to fix it if it breaks.
Go to post 194, this thread, for a better way to superpatch your 6.4a
#!/bin/sh

echo "Mounting / rw"
mount -o remount,rw /

echo "Patching 6.4a Tivoapp"
echo "Copying /tvbin/tivoapp /tvbin/tivoapp.tmp"
cp /tvbin/tivoapp /tvbin/tivoapp.tmp
echo "Done copying, now patching tivoapp.tmp"

# Disable Encraption:
echo -ne "\x3C\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=1598904
# Enable 30sec skip:
echo -ne "\x10\x40\x00\x2b" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=6883312
# Backdoors:
echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=2806144
# HMO/HME:
echo -ne "\x34\x11\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=906328
echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=1119964
echo -ne "\x10\x00\x00\x14" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=5874104
# Remove "*Tivo Plus features (trial ends today)"
echo -ne "\x24\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=920520

# Enable on-screen clock (SPS9S toggle)
#echo -ne "\x10\x40\x00\x1e" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=178560

# Disable OSD messages (insert your access card, etc)
#echo -ne "\x24\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=6895320


echo "Moving the running /tvbin/tivoapp to /tvbin/tivoapp.orig.bak"
mv /tvbin/tivoapp /tvbin/tivoapp.6.4a.original
echo "Done that, moving /tvbin/tivoapp.tmp /tvbin/tivoapp"
mv /tvbin/tivoapp.tmp /tvbin/tivoapp
echo "Mounting / ro"
mount -o remount,ro /
echo "Done. In the event of problems, your original tivoapp is at /tvbin/tivoapp.6.4a.original"

exit


I could not attach it as an .sh file. Put the .txt file on your box and rename it, or (my preferred method), copy the contents of the code box above, and cat it into a file through your telnet window. This method has the added bonus of fixing dos line endings in the event windows has fracked with your text file. Perhaps in a few days I will make this into a proper superpatch. For now, it gets the job done, and I must go back to intoxicificating myself this holiday weekend. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=10432&stc=1&d=1211679646
Go to post 194, this thread, for a better way to superpatch your 6.4a

[RandCfilm]

Well I'm gone all day Saturday, Come home at 10:15pm to find 6.4a on two of my units and CrashHD verified patch locations are working for him. Miss a day and things move on without me :)

Thanks Crash for verifying patch locations, and dthreet that on-line scheduler is working.

[CrashHD]

Miss a day and things move on without me :)

Tell me about it. I farm for a living, and have to work when the weather allows. I've been driving a tractor 15-18 hours a day for the last week. I got back on the internet the day after getting rained out, to find an entire new tivo version released, with 3 pages of thread already about it, and patch locations posted to boot!! BOO long working days, HOORAY Internet!

If you know the new value for the OSD message, I can test that as well, and add it into the patch file. If it's not too much trouble, do you think you could find the patch values to turn on the SPS9S clock?

[RandCfilm]

If you know the new value for the OSD message, I can test that as well, and add it into the patch file.try this - TEST ONLY - NOT CONFIRMED - confirmed by CrashHD only 5-25-2008
OSD message
echo -ne "\x24\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=6895320

If it's not too much trouble, do you think you could find the patch values to turn on the SPS9S clock?try this for SPS9S TEST ONLY - NOT CONFIRMED - confirmed by CrashHD only 5-25-2008

echo -ne "\x10\x40\x00\x1e" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=178560

[CrashHD]

I'll try it tomorrow. I got a little reckless today, and tried bufferhack using the 6.3f patch points. It didn't look like it was going to work, but that's what a testing unit is for, right? :D

[RandCfilm]

I'll try it tomorrow. I got a little reckless today, and tried bufferhack using the 6.3f patch points. It didn't look like it was going to work, but that's what a testing unit is for, right? :DThis is even farther over my head but it looks like
addrA 0x0d7496
addrB 0x0d72ae
addrC - .brf file - possibly the same
addrD - totally lost :eek: as the information is not the same in 6.3e - 6.3f

[dcstager]

Have you looked for or found the XM radio record patch?

[RandCfilm]

Have you looked for or found the XM radio record patch?Do you have any locations for any 6.3x versions?

[dcstager]

I don't recall anyone discovering it for any 6.3x version. It did work on 6.2a. I'm going to go ahead and try CrashHD's script as is and report back. I was just hoping for the XM patch because it was useful. Hopefully someone will figure it out. How are the patch locations discovered by anyone? That is for higher paygrades than me.

[dcstager]

Sad to report that CrashHD's script runs correctly, but there is a fatal error somewhere. After the patch you can watch live tv, but as soon as you press the Tivo button, it triggers a reboot.

--

Here's the output from the script:

Hughes-bash# 6.4a_crashHD_superpatch.sh
Mounting / rw
Patching 6.4a Tivoapp
Copying /tvbin/tivoapp /tvbin/tivoapp.tmp
Done copying, now patching tivoapp.tmp
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
Moving the running /tvbin/tivoapp to /tvbin/tivoapp.orig.bak
Done that, moving /tvbin/tivoapp.tmp /tvbin/tivoapp
Mounting / ro
Done. In the event of problems, your original tivoapp is at /tvbin/tivoapp.6.4a
.original
Hughes-bash# sync; reboot

[RandCfilm]

Can someone please give me the command sequence to put the original tivoapp back in place? I can still telnet to it as long as I don't press the Tivo button.make sure root is RW
cd /tvbin
mv tivoapp tivoapp.bad
cp tivoapp.6.4a.original tivoapp
make root RO
reboot

[RandCfilm]

Crash, you got the skip to locations swapped in your scrip.

DC you can edit the changes in the script and run it again.

# HMO/HME:
echo -ne "\x34\x11\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=906328
echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=5874104 should be 1119964
echo -ne "\x10\x00\x00\x14" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=1119964 should be 5874104

[CrashHD]

nuts...
It's fixed in the code box of post 80. The attached file was removed, though. My copy got dos line endings on it...will be fixed and back up shortly.

[dcstager]

okay... I was able to put it back together.

I edited the patch as advised and re-ran it on the original tivoapp.

30 second skip works.

Don't know how to test to see if encryption is actually disabled. I'll make a new recording and try and grab it with TyTools.

Backdoors shows enabled on System Information screen.

Under Phone, the choices look like on the standalone with the option to "Use Network Instead." My wired connection is listed -- looks good. Under Settings it just says "Phone" but when you select Phone, you get the Phone and Network setup screen.

Music Photos, and More shows up on the Tivo (DirecTV) Central and if selected provides an option to set up the address of a computer running Tivo Desktop. If you have Tivo Desktop running, it detects it and you can play music files from your PC and view your pictures as set up with Tivo Desktop.

There is a screen to "enable home networking applications", i.e. Live365, Podcaster, etc. However, they don't show up if you do enable this option.

Maybe some good news.... I ran the tivoserver alpha and my computer does show up on the Now Playing screen as if MRV was working. However, when I navigate to the Tivoserver DVR instead of seeing the contents of my computer and a option to watch on this Tivo, the contents of the Tivo's own now playing screen appear again with the Tivoserver DVR at the bottom as usual. Maybe it's there and maybe not. Again, some higher pay grades will have to investigate or give me some tips to try here.

If you have Tivo Desktop running on your computer and files in your "My Tivo Recordings" folder -- your PC likewise appears at the bottom of the now playing menu as would be expected on a standalone. However, selecting it likewise cycles you back to the Now Playing screen rather than the contents of your PC, so you can't select anything to upload to the Tivo.

[CrashHD]

Don't know how to test to see if encryption is actually disabled. I'll make a new recording and try and grab it with TyTools.

run "ciphercheck" from telnet. It will tell you whether or not encryption is currently enabled, and it will tell you the encryption status of every recording on the box.

[CrashHD]

try this - TEST ONLY - NOT CONFIRMED
OSD message
echo -ne "\x24\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=6895320

try this for SPS9S TEST ONLY - NOT CONFIRMED
echo -ne "\x10\x40\x00\x1e" | dd conv=notrunc of=/tvbin/tivoapp.tmp bs=1 seek=178560

This is even farther over my head but it looks like
addrA 0x0d7496
addrB 0x0d72ae
addrC - .brf file - possibly the same
addrD - totally lost :eek: as the information is not the same in 6.3e - 6.3f

All of these appear to be working. The SPS9S clock, the OSD message prevention, and the bufferhack values. At least for now, bufferhack is working. I need to wait for an hour for the buffer to fill to know for certain. To make bufferhack work, the following line must be inserted into it:set sys(6.4a) [list 0x0d7496 0x0d72ae 0x71 0x19e7e6 22517828 A9846DD76AEF86CEA6B3E69CE3758227598991A0]

[dcstager]

run "ciphercheck" from telnet. It will tell you whether or not encryption is currently enabled, and it will tell you the encryption status of every recording on the box.

Encryption is off with the patch. So, that's confirmed too.

[RandCfilm]

Maybe some good news.... I ran the tivoserver alpha and my computer does show up on the Now Playing screen as if MRV was working. However, when I navigate to the Tivoserver DVR instead of seeing the contents of my computer and a option to watch on this Tivo, the contents of the Tivo's own now playing screen appear again with the Tivoserver DVR at the bottom as usual. Maybe it's there and maybe not. Again, some higher pay grades will have to investigate or give me some tips to try here.MRV may look like it is there but as you found out it will just run you in circles and you will chase your tail around and around until you get dizzy and fall down :D

[dthreet]

has anyone uploaded or found a link to the slices?

[RandCfilm]

All this patch location searching and I have not got to upgrade yet. I could have used the remote scheduling this evening. Way too tired to upgrade now so tomorrow it might happen :(

[CrashHD]

has anyone uploaded or found a link to the slices?Yes, but they are useless until the swsystem slices can be decrypted.

[stevel]

I upgraded yesterday as the slices appeared on my box. After an initial problem (self-inflicted, I suspect), I got it working. I copied dhclient from the 6.3f partition and DHCP (which I had been using) worked fine. I've even tried Remote Scheduling and it worked. ciphercheck shows that encryption is disabled.

[dcstager]

Is there another source for the proper dhclient? Which folder is is supposed to be in? I wanted to test to see if the Tivo Wireless adapter will work with WPA settings and DHCP. From the menus, the wireless setup screen is just like on a standalone, but from the expert comments, without the dhclient file it won't work. I upgraded from 6.2a, so I don't have it on the old partition.

[stevel]

It's in /sbin.

[dcstager]

It's in /sbin.

I take it that is where the file goes -- if I had it. Right?

[T1V0]

I take it that is where the file goes -- if I had it. Right?

that's where it always goes. dhclient-script goes in /etc

[stevel]

I will be honest and say that I don't know absolutely that dhclient is required in 6.4a. All I know is that I read that it was missing, worried that I would not have DHCP, and copied it. I do see the network setup now, but don't know which of the "hacks" enabled that (backdoors? dunno.) It would be an interesting experiment (one I am in no hurry to try) to rename dhclient, reboot, and see if I can still select DHCP in the network setup menu.

It works and I'm happy. (More to the point, the TiVo works and that means my wife is happy!)

[RandCfilm]

I take it that is where the file goes -- if I had it. Right?DC I'll take that as "I need the files".
6.3e /sbin/dhclient & /etc/dhclient-script attached.

[stevel]

I didn't know about dhclient-script and didn't copy it. No problems.

[Stabu]

One thing I did notice with this version. The pixelation issues I had are now gone. Will keep an eye on it and post back.

[pleitch]

Since the last software update we've gotten rid of our phone. Can I force an update w/o a phone or do I need to bring it somewhere I can use a phone?

Thanks.

[T1V0]

I will be honest and say that I don't know absolutely that dhclient is required in 6.4a. All I know is that I read that it was missing, worried that I would not have DHCP, and copied it.

dhclient is still necessary, dhclient-script doesn't appear to be required if using the onscreen menus. Without dhclient, you would get an N24 error message.

[litzdog911]

Since the last software update we've gotten rid of our phone. Can I force an update w/o a phone or do I need to bring it somewhere I can use a phone?

Thanks.

Unless you've hacked your Tivo you'll need a phone connection to activate the update once it has downloaded from the satellite. But the 6.4a software hasn't officially started rolling out yet. That should happen starting this week. Keep your eyes here for when folks start getting the new software automatically. And then you can take it to a friend's house and phone in from there.

[dcstager]

Thanks for posting the dhclient files. I don't have a serial bash cable, so if I screw up network connectivity by screwing around with this stuff, I'm going to have to pull the drive. I may need assistance in that area so, I'll PM for help if I need it.

Quick question regarding MRV... is it possible it's there waiting to be patched, or is the behavior I described above an indication that it's not there for sure?

[spec2]

Is DTV rolling out the 6.4 upgrade gradually or did they do it all at once? Just asking because my Philips DSR704 still shows 6.3. My phone line is connected and shows to be "OK" in the DSR704 test.

[dtremain]

Is DTV rolling out the 6.4 upgrade gradually or did they do it all at once? Just asking because my Philips DSR704 still shows 6.3. My phone line is connected and shows to be "OK" in the DSR704 test.Read LItzdog's post, two posts up from yours.

[swiftkey]

I don't have the update yet. How can I get the download faster?

[T1V0]

Quick question regarding MRV... is it possible it's there waiting to be patched, or is the behavior I described above an indication that it's not there for sure?

it's not there. the behavior you described started with 6.3.

[dcstager]

Tivo Wireless Adapter is "unsupported" was the message I got when I tried to use it with the 6.4a software. I tried both usb ports and rebooted and did all the stuff to make sure if any drivers were going to load they would, but it's a no go. I can't even get to the screen to try and configure it.

Just to advance the test, I tried to use a Netgear WG111 wireless adapter that I bought from Tivo long ago before the Tivo Wireless Adapter was ever issued. It even has "Tivo Compatible" printed on in and it does work on a Tivo standalone.

Likewise, it was "unsupported."

Plugging in the regular wired connection it was immediately recognized and worked.

I'm thinking that there just isn't any support for networking built-in to 6.4a and the capacity I do have is because of the backported drivers that are installed. It may be that there are wireless configuration setup screens somewhere within the 6.4a tivoapp, but I couldn't get to them with the hardware I had to test with.

I'm open to suggestions of things I might try or test to get these things to work or to try to configure them properly.

[CrashHD]

But the 6.4a software hasn't officially started rolling out yet. That should happen starting this week.

You have inside information, and know this, or are guessing? Last time, it was many weeks from the first appearance of the software to the first automatic installation.

[litzdog911]

You have inside information, and know this, or are guessing? Last time, it was many weeks from the first appearance of the software to the first automatic installation.

Nothing "official". Just grapevine stuff.

[Gunnyman]

Tivo Wireless Adapter is "unsupported" was the message I got when I tried to use it with the 6.4a software. I tried both usb ports and rebooted and did all the stuff to make sure if any drivers were going to load they would, but it's a no go. I can't even get to the screen to try and configure it.

Just to advance the test, I tried to use a Netgear WG111 wireless adapter that I bought from Tivo long ago before the Tivo Wireless Adapter was ever issued. It even has "Tivo Compatible" printed on in and it does work on a Tivo standalone.

Likewise, it was "unsupported."

Plugging in the regular wired connection it was immediately recognized and worked.

I'm thinking that there just isn't any support for networking built-in to 6.4a and the capacity I do have is because of the backported drivers that are installed. It may be that there are wireless configuration setup screens somewhere within the 6.4a tivoapp, but I couldn't get to them with the hardware I had to test with.

I'm open to suggestions of things I might try or test to get these things to work or to try to configure them properly.


The wireless config screens, if they haven't been removed, are going to require patching tivoapp their location, again, if they are there, will be found soon enough.

[snickerrrrs]

I saw the same post on another forum... It said 6.4a would start rolling out the 28th. It could be a rumor, but we'll know tomorrow. Engadet, Gizmolovers and dvrpedia are all reporting it, but it looks like TC might be the source of it! :D

[grecorj]

The post on DBSTalk forum has the same username as the person who posted the rollout date here:

DBSTalk link (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1617165&postcount=2)

So that's not really confirmation. ;-)

Hoping it is true. Seems like rollout is coming soon tho...

[snickerrrrs]

No, that's not the same guy... his picture is different. Although they both look like a Computer Geek (like most of us). :D

PS: I saw it posted by a guy on the Directv forums, It could have been Earl using a different name but he didn't say anything about how much Tivo's suck so I don't think it was him. :rolleyes: Just kidding

[litzdog911]

Nothing "official". Just grapevine stuff.

OK, it's official now. Rollout is scheduled to begin tomorrow (May 28). Let the "daily calls" begin. :D

Release Notes:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=129570

[grecorj]

No, that's not the same guy... his picture is different. Although they both look like a Computer Geek (like most of us). :D

So there are two people known as "litzdog911"?? Who happen to be into DTV/TiVo?

:D

Don't think so.

[dcstager]

What are service labels? The announcement says "fixes for service levels" are included in 6.4a.

[litzdog911]

So there are two people known as "litzdog911"?? Who happen to be into DTV/TiVo?

:D

Don't think so.

They're both me. I just haven't updated my photo here at TivoCommunity since I lost the beard. Thanks for noticing! :cool:

[chscott]

I notice some users stating they are on older versions of software. Is there any way to stop this update from happening?

[Gunnyman]

unplug your phone line

[RandCfilm]

Tivo Wireless Adapter is "unsupported" was the message I got when I tried to use it with the 6.4a software. I tried both usb ports and rebooted and did all the stuff to make sure if any drivers were going to load they would, but it's a no go. I can't even get to the screen to try and configure it.

Just to advance the test, I tried to use a Netgear WG111 wireless adapter that I bought from Tivo long ago before the Tivo Wireless Adapter was ever issued. It even has "Tivo Compatible" printed on in and it does work on a Tivo standalone.

usb.map files indicates that both Netgear WG111 and TiVo Wireless G are suported. You might try to go thru the phone setting menu. IIRC someone said the network option was listed there.

I still have not had time to upgrade my units yet or I would look for myself.

[dcstager]

When I go to the phone menu with the wireless devices attached, the only choice applicable is "use network instead". When I choose this, there is a laundry list of requirements the program lists, i.e., do you have a broadband connection, do you have a router, can you router assign an I.P. address, do you have a compatible adapter, with the choices, of Yes I meet all requirements or No, go back.

I chose yes and then got the unsupported adapter message for each. The options are then "try another adapter" or "go back to using phone".

When the wired adapter is plugged in, selecting phone allows you to "change network settings" but the only change is to select either DHCP, fixed IP, or let Tivo assign an IP - no wireless choices are selectable.

[snickerrrrs]

They're both me. I just haven't updated my photo here at TivoCommunity since I lost the beard. Thanks for noticing! :cool:

LOL too funny :D I was just kidding... yes we noticed. I shaved mine after the last job change.

But grecorj that's not me, it's Chet from Weird Science.

[RandCfilm]

When I go to the phone menu with the wireless devices attached, the only choice applicable is "use network instead". When I choose this, there is a laundry list of requirements the program lists, i.e., do you have a broadband connection, do you have a router, can you router assign an I.P. address, do you have a compatible adapter, with the choices, of Yes I meet all requirements or No, go back.

I chose yes and then got the unsupported adapter message for each. The options are then "try another adapter" or "go back to using phone".

When the wired adapter is plugged in, selecting phone allows you to "change network settings" but the only change is to select either DHCP, fixed IP, or let Tivo assign an IP - no wireless choices are selectable.By chance are you running TWP?

[Joe Siegler]

I forced calls on both my boxes (see sig), and I got the update on both machines.

However, DirecTV's website tells me I don't have a receiver capable of using the scheduler. Probably a time issue, although I'm surprised if they're rolling out the software that I can't use the feature immediately. Might take time for their system to recognize my boxes can now do this, I'd wager.

[snickerrrrs]

Me too.. mine are powering up as we speak (oops, I mean as I type). Thank goodness for the writer's strike, nothing to watch. Wait a sec... I'm missing "the moment of truth" LOL :D

[grecorj]

Forced call, got pending restart message in sys info, am restarting now....directv.com still telling me I don't have correct receiver to schedule a recording.

[T1V0]

When I go to the phone menu with the wireless devices attached, the only choice applicable is "use network instead". When I choose this, there is a laundry list of requirements the program lists, i.e., do you have a broadband connection, do you have a router, can you router assign an I.P. address, do you have a compatible adapter, with the choices, of Yes I meet all requirements or No, go back.

I chose yes and then got the unsupported adapter message for each. The options are then "try another adapter" or "go back to using phone".

When the wired adapter is plugged in, selecting phone allows you to "change network settings" but the only change is to select either DHCP, fixed IP, or let Tivo assign an IP - no wireless choices are selectable.

This is probably the same issue that SA users have been facing with wireless devices since 8.1. The stock 6.4a usb-cdc.o driver for the Tivo adapter is most likely not compatible with the backported host modules you're using. The only way to use a wireless device at this point is to get older drivers that won't crash when using a killhdinitrd'd kernel (7.3.1 drivers are posted on DDB at the end of the "8.1 and my NIC" thread), or to use monte to chainload to a neutered 6.4a kernel and use all stock drivers.

I haven't played with this at all yet, but due to the kernel panics caused by using stock drivers with a killhdinitrd'd kernel, I'm pretty sure that's what the problem is. If I get some free time, I'll try to verify this.

[grecorj]

Now have 6.4a on 1 of 2 DTiVos, waiting for other unit to restart...

I see "recently deleted" folder. Can't wait for remote booking to be activated.

[manhole]

Anyone with a Samsung Tivo get the update yet?

[CrashHD]

which update? :D

[JaserLet]

Hmm...... No MRV, so no 6.4 for me.

Zippered 6.2a forever!

[T1V0]

If I get some free time, I'll try to verify this.

Consider it verified. The easiest way to get it working if you're already running 6.4a is to stick an older usb-cdc.o in /lib/modules if currently using backported drivers. Attached is one from 6.3f. Tested with a Tivo branded adapter and 128 bit WEP.

[dcstager]

Consider it verified. The easiest way to get it working if you're already running 6.4a is to stick an older usb-cdc.o in /lib/modules if currently using backported drivers. Attached is one from 6.3f. Tested with a Tivo branded adapter and 128 bit WEP.

Do I just overwrite the existing one with this or do I have to rename the existing one, copy in the older usb-cdc.o and restart?

[dcstager]

By chance are you running TWP?

I'm not running it. It does run under 6.4a locally, but since gotomydvr is not working with 6.4a I chose not to install it when I re-installed rbautch's tweak script. He is working on fix for fakecall by the way - which at this moment will not run on 6.4a.

[Rainy Dave]

My R10 now has 6.4a, the DVR40 is still on 6.3f.

Can't wait for the booking to be activated.

[T1V0]

Do I just overwrite the existing one with this or do I have to rename the existing one, copy in the older usb-cdc.o and restart?

doesn't matter, though it is good practice to always make a backup. rebooting isn't necessary.

[Tim32672]

My R10 now has 6.4a, the DVR40 is still on 6.3f.

Can't wait for the booking to be activated.

R10 and my Hughes dvr80 both have it... anyone know when remote booking will be activated? Love the deleted folder I now can go back and watch re-runs of lost!!! :D

[stevel]

I already have remote booking for my HR10 and have used it.

[iceisles]

How exactly does "Overlap Protection" work? Is there an option to extend the record time of a program when you choose it? This would have been great for the finale of Idol.

[EdM]

I have a HR10-250 that I zippered w/ 6.3e last year... I see 6.4a is in MFS on it. Could someone point me to the steps to upgrade via telnet? Thanks

[grecorj]

Overlap Protection explained (http://www.tivo.com/setupandsupport/messagesonmydvr/Overlap_Protection.html)

[dcstager]

Consider it verified. The easiest way to get it working if you're already running 6.4a is to stick an older usb-cdc.o in /lib/modules if currently using backported drivers. Attached is one from 6.3f. Tested with a Tivo branded adapter and 128 bit WEP.

I still get the same "Adapter Unsupported" messages even after replacing usb-cdc.o

[Ellipse]

I forced calls on both my boxes (see sig), and I got the update on both machines.

However, DirecTV's website tells me I don't have a receiver capable of using the scheduler. Probably a time issue, although I'm surprised if they're rolling out the software that I can't use the feature immediately. Might take time for their system to recognize my boxes can now do this, I'd wager.

That's funny! I have a similar issue. The two HR10-250s that do NOT have the slices on them yet ARE listed, but the two HDRV2s that DO have 6.4a are not listed. Go figure!

[T1V0]

I still get the same "Adapter Unsupported" messages even after replacing usb-cdc.o

worksforme

[gshumaker]

6.4a now on 3 of 3 boxes now after forcing 3 phone calls.

2 questions...

1. I don't see anywhere on D* site to do DVR Scheduling via drop down menu like someone mentioned and when I go to the TV listings I get a "You do not have a receiver that supports the digital video recording feature. Update to a DVR or HD DVR receiver now." message.Do they have to activate this on the site for DVR Scheduling to work for our D* Tivo units?

2. How do the SUGGESTIONS and RECENTLY DELETED folders share the free space on the drive? Does one have priority over the other?

[stevel]

1. I never asked DirecTV to activate remote scheduling on my HR10. It just showed up in my list of receivers when I went to look for it - before I had installed 6.4a.

2. RECENTLY DELETED does not in any way change the way TiVo manages disk space. All it does is let you see and recover shows that have been deleted but not yet reused, a list that until now had been visible only to those who installed TiVoWebPlus on their hacked boxes. Deleted programs continue to be the first pool looked at when more space is needed. The only difference is that now you can see that pool and recover shows from it.

When I showed this feature to my wife last night, she was astonished to see how many shows were on the list. Our HR10 has a large disk and it's never been more than about 40% full, despite having almost the entire series of Planet Earth in HD on it. Helping this is that we have suggestions turned off, so there aren't a flood of new recordings.

[classicsat]

2. How do the SUGGESTIONS and RECENTLY DELETED folders share the free space on the drive? Does one have priority over the other?
Suggestions will delete entries in the RD folder.

[dcstager]

worksforme

And you can configure it using the regular Tivo menus?

[T1V0]

if by "regular" you mean the menus caused by using the HME patches RandC ported, then yeah, that's the only way I tried it.

[doo600]

I have 2 Tivo units and one DVR. The only one recognized by Direct TV through remote scheduler is the DVR. Is this a Tivo thing, the fact I have a multiswitch or something that's just gonna take a little time to get recognized?

[stevel]

Did your TiVos automatically upgrade to 6.4a?

[doo600]

Did your TiVos automatically upgrade to 6.4a?

yup

[dcstager]

if by "regular" you mean the menus caused by using the HME patches RandC ported, then yeah, that's the only way I tried it.

Yeah, that's what I meant. I thought perhaps you did it with TWP or some bash utility. I'm at a loss for why it isn't recognizing either of my adapters.

Can you give me any other troubleshooting tips or things I might try to figure this out?

[Tim32672]

I have 2 Tivo units and one DVR. The only one recognized by Direct TV through remote scheduler is the DVR. Is this a Tivo thing, the fact I have a multiswitch or something that's just gonna take a little time to get recognized?

For what its worth I called DirecTV and they said the TiVo platform dose not and will not allow remote booking… I told her that the press release said remote booking would be a feature with the new download and she said “what press release?” I quoted the release to her from last year (she sounded surprised) and put me on hold, after a minute she said remote booking will be available July 31 or there about. Soooo looks like we could have it sometime in the future “IF” she knew what she was talking about, however not knowing about the added features of TiVo I have to wonder…:rolleyes:

[dcstager]

For what its worth I called DirecTV and they said the TiVo platform dose not and will not allow remote booking… I told her that the press release said remote booking would be a feature with the new download and she said “what press release?” I quoted the release to her from last year (she sounded surprised) and put me on hold, after a minute she said remote booking will be available July 31 or there about. Soooo looks like we could have it sometime in the future “IF” she knew what she was talking about, however not knowing about the added features of TiVo I have to wonder…:rolleyes:

I think that date was just pulled out of her...

[Tim32672]

I think that date was just pulled out of her...

LOL You think...:D

[dcstager]

LOL You think...:D

It will start working whenever. Sorry that's imprecise. It's working for some people already. It's not working for me yet and I think I was the first one to install the software.

The DVR Scheduler item at DirecTV is still labelled a "beta." Hopefully the beta will be completed in two months - but that date is just too arbitrary to be legitimate. I can hear the supervisor talking to her while you were on hold, "Just tell him July 31st."

That's all this information is.

[doo600]

Great, thanks for the info!

[RandCfilm]

Yeah, that's what I meant. I thought perhaps you did it with TWP or some bash utility. I'm at a loss for why it isn't recognizing either of my adapters.

Can you give me any other troubleshooting tips or things I might try to figure this out?this is the network config screen in TWP, don't know if this helps you out or not.

http://home.comcast.net/~vista4us/TWP%20network.JPG

[dcstager]

this is the network config screen in TWP, don't know if this helps you out or not.

http://home.comcast.net/~vista4us/TWP%20network.JPG

I haven't tried to do it with TWP. I just plugged in the Tivo Wireless adapter and tried to change the network settings navigating through the regular Tivo setup menus. I can completely set up a wired connection by this method, but on my machine with all the patches, there is no way to select a wireless network, and my Tivo tells me that I am using an unsupported adapter. This happens with two different supported adapters.

[T1V0]

clear your logs, then reboot. as soon as the box starts to boot up, plug in the tivo adapter. when it's finished booting all the way up, swap to your wired adapter if needed, grab the kernel log and post it (as an attachment of course).

[Tim32672]

It will start working whenever. Sorry that's imprecise. It's working for some people already. It's not working for me yet and I think I was the first one to install the software.

The DVR Scheduler item at DirecTV is still labelled a "beta." Hopefully the beta will be completed in two months - but that date is just too arbitrary to be legitimate. I can hear the supervisor talking to her while you were on hold, "Just tell him July 31st."

That's all this information is.

Yea that's what I thought... She did laugh or stifle a laugh when I asked… 2008?

[tivoboy]

One of my older units ran the update today (it hadn't been plugged in for 265 days :-))

Anywhooo, my total hours on this older unit went from 70 hours to 66 hours. What is now taking up that space?

[RandCfilm]

Tivo tells me that I am using an unsupported adapter. This happens with two different supported adapters.
Is your netgear one of these?

NETGEAR WG111, WG111NA, or WG111RVNA Only adapters starting with serial numbers WG72 or 130 are compatible. TiVo Software Version 7.1 or later required.


NETGEAR WG111, WG111 ver.2 & ver.3, NETGEAR WG111T, WG111US Adapters starting with serial numbers WG16, WG41, 165, or 1NG are NOT compatible.

[dtremain]

Anywhooo, my total hours on this older unit went from 70 hours to 66 hours. What is now taking up that space?This happened a couple of updates back.

[Vin]

1. I never asked DirecTV to activate remote scheduling on my HR10. It just showed up in my list of receivers when I went to look for it - before I had installed 6.4a.


Same here, that was yesterday when I went to DVR Scheduler. When I got home from work I saw the Pending Restart message so I restarted and had the upgrade on my HR10-250.

I then forced a call on one of my SD units (an R10), got the Pending Restart message and did the install.

Today, the only choice in the DVR Scheduler drop down is still the HR10 and scheduling does work.

[EricG]

I've got 6.4a on my HR10-250 as well as all of my HDVR2s. I've been able to remote schedule a recording on the HR10, but non of my HDVR2s are in the drop down box.
Should I call DirecTV?

[T1V0]

Should I call DirecTV?

no. they couldn't do anything about it if you did. just be patient.

[dcstager]

Is your netgear one of these?

NETGEAR WG111, WG111NA, or WG111RVNA Only adapters starting with serial numbers WG72 or 130 are compatible. TiVo Software Version 7.1 or later required.


NETGEAR WG111, WG111 ver.2 & ver.3, NETGEAR WG111T, WG111US Adapters starting with serial numbers WG16, WG41, 165, or 1NG are NOT compatible.

It is one of the compatible ones and I bought it from Tivo and it has a sticker on it with the Tivo icon and "Tivo Compatable". It works on a standalone Tivo and I used it before the Tivo Wireless Adapter was ever sold. The Tivo Wireless Adapter is also "not supported" according to my setup screens.

[mrbonzo]

I also now have 6.4a. Got it on both of my r10's yesterday. Anyone else notice that since the update, the r10's now make a daily call to DTV? That call used to only take place every 9-10 days or so. Now they call in daily. Does this have anything to do with the 24 hours PPV expiration? Wonder what happens if I were to unplug the phone. Would PPV still expire in 24 hours?

[RandCfilm]

It is one of the compatible ones and I bought it from Tivo and it has a sticker on it with the Tivo icon and "Tivo Compatable". It works on a standalone Tivo and I used it before the Tivo Wireless Adapter was ever sold. The Tivo Wireless Adapter is also "not supported" according to my setup screens.I am all wired here so I am not much help. But thy this usbnet.o file and replace with the one in /lib/modules/usbnet.o
I have been using this file for well over a year because my USB was not supported.

rename usbnet.txt to usbnet.o -> extension change for upload reasons

[Dante101]

I guess I was mistaken about the overlap feature. I thought (or was hoping) that it was more of a "padding" feature, that would pad all your shows by a preset amount when/if it did not conflict with another recording.

But the overlap thing is still nice. However, I have a question about it. If I am set to record "South Park" on Wednesday at 7pm, and 2 higher-priority programs are being recorded prior to it, and slightly overlapping by a few minutes - will it record the 7pm showing of South Park (and snip it by a few minutes) or will it favor recording a later showing of the same episode (when no other recordings overlap it - giving me the entire episode)?

For some shows, you only get one chance per week, but others (like South Park) run multiple times per week...

[gshumaker]

I guess I was mistaken about the overlap feature. I thought (or was hoping) that it was more of a "padding" feature, that would pad all your shows by a preset amount when/if it did not conflict with another recording.

But the overlap thing is still nice. However, I have a question about it. If I am set to record "South Park" on Wednesday at 7pm, and 2 higher-priority programs are being recorded prior to it, and slightly overlapping by a few minutes - will it record the 7pm showing of South Park (and snip it by a few minutes) or will it favor recording a later showing of the same episode (when no other recordings overlap it - giving me the entire episode)?

For some shows, you only get one chance per week, but others (like South Park) run multiple times per week...

Could it depend on how you have the lower level program set up to record. If you have first run only then it will probably record it and snip it but if you have it for first run and reruns then it may pick up the later episode. But I'm only guessing.

Good question!!

Anyone experience this yet?

[dtremain]

Anyone experience this yet?Not me. I have a Samsung. It's becoming rapidly apparent to me that Directv has once again put out an update that is incompatible with the Sammys.

They're doing a great job.:confused:

[rbtravis]

Not me. I have a Samsung. It's becoming rapidly apparent to me that Directv has once again put out an update that is incompatible with the Sammys.

They're doing a great job.:confused:No update here, I have RCA's. I think Directv does updates in alphabetical order by manufacturers. :D

[dcstager]

I am all wired here so I am not much help. But thy this usbnet.o file and replace with the one in /lib/modules/usbnet.o
I have been using this file for well over a year because my USB was not supported.

rename usbnet.txt to usbnet.o -> extension change for upload reasons

I tried it but got same results. I think it's time to give up. Probably something about my setup rather than any support modules. Thank you very much for the effort.

Last question... could it have something to do with the manual network setup installed when it was zipped? Or maybe I have to change the debug_board setting or something like that.

[dtremain]

No update here, I have RCA's. I think Directv does updates in alphabetical order by manufacturers. :DCould be. If so, they still haven't gotten to the S's with 6.3f. :D

[RandCfilm]

Last question... could it have something to do with the manual network setup installed when it was zipped? Or maybe I have to change the debug_board setting or something like that.I have never used the zipper, always done things manually. This network stuff is kind of over my head so I'm no help moving forward. Good luck on finding the solution.

[Mashdoc]

No update here, I have RCA's. I think Directv does updates in alphabetical order by manufacturers. :D

I got the update on Friday June 30 for both my Series 2 Phillips DVR7000 & DVR708.

No problems so far.

The restore deleted programs folder looks interesting.

[SullyND]

Just got it on my HDVR2

[CrashHD]

I got the update on Friday June 30 for both my Series 2 Phillips DVR7000 & DVR708.
:DYou don't happen to remember the powerball numbers for Wed. June 28 by chance?:D

[Rhughes]

No update here, I have RCA's. I think Directv does updates in alphabetical order by manufacturers. :DMaybe so, but my R10 and one Philips DSR708 have had the 6.4a for some time (a few weeks?), but my primary receiver, another Philips DSR708 is still sitting at 6.3f.

[CrashHD]

Here is an actual 6.4a superpatch. Put on the Tivo in your favorite way, change the filename extension to .tcl, chmod 0755, and execute. If you've applied the sh script I posted a few pages back, there is no need for this. It does the same thing, but is a better, safer way to do it.
#!/tvbin/tivosh

# superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl by NutKase
# ported by NutKase, et al (several :))
# (C) 09/17/2005
# ---------------------------

#*********************************************************** *********************
# superpatch-6.4a.tcl by CrashHD
# 6.4a patch locations found by RandC
# credit goes to NutKase for original patches

#*********************************************************** *********************
# Thanks to everyone, especially alldeadhomiez, rc3105, Capableperson66,
# those heavy-lifters unnamed, and everyone who'll test this.
#
# Currently supports tivoapps from software versions 6.4a.
#
############################################################ ##############################################
# TERMS OF USE
#
# -superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl IS PROVIDED AS-IS
# AND DOES NOT CARRY ANY IMPLIED OR EXPLICIT WARRANTY
#
# -superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl IS FOR NON-COMMERCIAL USE ONLY.
# -YOU MUST BACKUP YOUR UNIT BEFORE USING THIS SCRIPT
# AS IT MAY DAMAGE YOUR TIVO BEYOND REPAIR
#
# -SALE OF ANY DRIVE OR WHOLE UNIT MODIFIED WITH THIS SOFTWARE IS PROHIBITED
# -USE OF THIS SOFTWARE FOR PROFIT IS PROHIBITED
# -INDIVIDUALS IN VIOLATION OF THE TERMS LISTED ABOVE
# WILL BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW
#
#
############################################################ ##############################################

# First Patch, Disable Encryption
# Second Patch, 30 sec skip (SPS30S)
# Third Patch, Backdoors
# The next three are for HMO/HME
# The next one removes "Tivo Plus Features (trial ends today)"

array set patch_6_4a {

0x005865B8 "0c16a402 3c020000"

0x00A907F0 "1440002b 1040002b"

0x006AD180 "00008021 24100001"

0x004DD458 "00408821 34110000"
0x005116DC "00408021 24100001"
0x0099A1B8 "14400014 10000014"

0x004E0BC8 "0c1445a9 24020000"

}

puts " "
puts "superpatch-67all-NutKase-1.1.tcl"
puts "(C) 05/08/2005 by NutKase, et al - COMMERCIAL USE PROHIBITED"
puts " "
puts "Credit goes to CapablePerson66, rc3105, and others who wish to"
puts "remain anonymous. We thank ESPECIALLY alldeadhomiez for his time and knowledge."
puts " "
puts "All errors are the fault of Anonymous :-) ."
puts " "

set db [dbopen]
RetryTransaction {
set swsys [db $db open /SwSystem/ACTIVE]
set sw [dbobj $swsys get Name]
}
dbclose $db

puts "Your TiVo Software version is $sw"
puts "Please write down your TiVo Software version."
puts " "


if { [regexp {^6\.4a-} $sw] } {
set a "patch_6_4a"
} else {
puts "Error: Version $sw is not supported."
exit 1
}

puts " "
puts "Checking your tivoapp patch locations..."
puts " "

set fh [open "/tvbin/tivoapp" r]
fconfigure $fh -translation binary -eofchar {}

foreach {off val} [array get $a] {
binary scan $val a8xa8 orig new
seek $fh [expr $off - 0x400000] start
binary scan [read $fh 4] H* cur
if {$cur!=$orig} {
if {$cur!=$new} {
puts stderr "At offset $off, expected 0x$orig but got 0x$cur"
puts stderr "Aborting... You need a virgin tivoapp to patch."
exit 1
}
}
}
close $fh
puts "Patching your tivoapp..."
puts " "

exec mount -o remount,rw /
if { [catch {
array set patch [array get $a]

file copy /tvbin/tivoapp /tvbin/tivoapp.superpatch;
set fh [open "/tvbin/tivoapp.superpatch" r+]
foreach {off val} [array get $a] {
binary scan $val a8xa8 orig new
seek $fh [expr $off - 0x400000] start;
puts -nonewline $fh [binary format H8 $new]
}
close $fh

file rename -force /tvbin/tivoapp /tvbin/tivoapp.original;
file rename -force /tvbin/tivoapp.superpatch /tvbin/tivoapp;
catch { exec mount -o remount,ro / }; # ignore errors from the remount

puts "Success!"
puts "________"
puts "1. Your $sw tivoapp was updated with the proper superpatch-67all"
puts "2. Your original tivoapp was backed up and is called /tvbin/tivoapp.original."
if { [regexp {^6} $sw] } {
puts "3. You'll need to run the set_mrv_name_67.tcl, I've included, to 'name' your tivo."
} elseif { [regexp {^7} $sw] } {
puts "3. Your 7.x tivo must be subscribed. "
puts " *DO NOT* run any version of set_mrv_name.tcl."
puts " Instead, enable MRV and name your tivo via your TiVo account at www.tivo.com."
puts " "
}
}]} {
;# cleanup: remove tivoapp.superpatch after any errors
puts $errorInfo;
catch { close $fh }
catch {file delete -force /tvbin/tivoapp.superpatch }
catch {exec mount -o remount,ro /}
}

[iceisles]

50 forced calls this weekend and still no update to either my Samsung or HDVR2. This is taking forever. Uggh.

[dtremain]

50 forced calls this weekend and still no update to either my Samsung or HDVR2. This is taking forever. Uggh.I suspect that anything more than one a day per unit is a bit redundant.

But, I know how you feel.:)

[iceisles]

I suspect that anything more than one a day per unit is a bit redundant.

But, I know how you feel.:)

Not sure - I've had updates download after several daily attempts. It feels good to keep trying, though. Lol.

[BigFoot48]

Mine showed up this morning along with 73 deleted programs!

[Jonathan_S]

Could it depend on how you have the lower level program set up to record. If you have first run only then it will probably record it and snip it but if you have it for first run and reruns then it may pick up the later episode. But I'm only guessing.

Good question!!

Anyone experience this yet?First Run vs. First Run & Repeats would not affect this.
The TiVo still tries to record the first availble slot (and consideres an unrecorded show to be first run for up to 28 days; so even with FRO it can grab a later recording in case of a conflict).

My understanding is that:
If you have 2 higher priority shows recording with padding, and overlap protection is on;
The only thing that determines whether you got a partial recording of Southpark would be how long the overlap was.

If the total overlap between Southpark (including any padding) and higher priority show that ends first (including any padding) is less that 5 minutes then you'll get a partial Southpark episode. If it's more than 5 minutes, overlap protection doesn't kick in, and the TiVo will try to grab a later airing of the episode.

[LoREvanescence]

Well, 6.4a showed up on my parents R10 yesterday. I noticed it was different because of the recently deleted folder, and something else no one has mentioned. I don't know if it's just me not remembering this, but on all the menu screens except the home screen there is now a tivo guy standing there to the top right. I always remember the directivo's not having tivo branding on the start up screens or menu's, it just had the moving direct tv text in the background.

On another silly note, it looks like tivo was slacking on this release. The shagwell scroller still says software version 6.3...:D


Well I got a MRV question for the pro's here.

I just graduated from college 2 weeks ago and moved back in with my parents while i'm on the job hunt and looking for a place of my own to live. I have a S3 Tivo and currently it's set up only for OTA since my parents live in the sticks, cable doesn't exist only OTA or Satellite. My question is if by some miracle someone did figure out how to get MRV working with 6.4a, would it possible to get it to work with a S3 Tivo so I could keep some of the shows I want to keep when I move into my own place, or is my best bet recording them to DVD's?

I found it fascinating that some of you got MRV to work in 6.2 by hacking, I had always thought the software did not support it so there for you couldn't make it.

[gshumaker]

Not sure if it is related to 6.4a or not or possibly a bad hard drive but had my first freeze up last night on 1 of 3 tivo boxes with 6.4a.

I was hoping this update might fix the issues with 6.3e/f lockups/freezes/reboots but maybe not.

Anyone else have any similar issues since 6.4a has rolled out?

[rbtravis]

Not sure if it is related to 6.4a or not or possibly a bad hard drive but had my first freeze up last night on 1 of 3 tivo boxes with 6.4a.

I was hoping this update might fix the issues with 6.3e/f lockups/freezes/reboots but maybe not.

Anyone else have any similar issues since 6.4a has rolled out?

How old is your Hard drive,that may be the problem. :)

[T1V0]

My question is if by some miracle someone did figure out how to get MRV working with 6.4a, would it possible to get it to work with a S3 Tivo so I could keep some of the shows I want to keep when I move into my own place, or is my best bet recording them to DVD's?

No MRV for 6.4a. There are other solutions (MovieLoader) for use between directivo's using sw 6.3 or higher, but this wouldn't work between a directv unit and an S3 since the native video formats between the two are significantly different. Movieloader just transfers the raw files and does no transcoding at all.

[schampio]

I have a couple of previously 6.3e hdvr2's that were running stock beyond 2x300gb drive installations more or less flawlessly for a while and holding 400-500 shows I'd like to watch. One of them upgraded to 6.4a okay and the second was stuck on a blue screen for a couple of hours when my darling daughter pulled the plug to get it going again. It came back in a reboot loop dropping into standby after "almost there" and immediately rebooting again. The 2xHR10-250's upgraded to 6.4a without incident. I pulled the drives and verified no dead sectors with seagate's disk tools and ran mfslive1.3 to dump so logs and check partitions. Looks like 6.3e is still on hda7 and 6.4a was put onto hdea4. I was hopeful there wasn't a database reformat between the two levels and decided to try backing up to 6.3e would rerun the upgrade again hopefully cleaner this time. I tried poking it with bootpage and it gave me a bootpage -p hde result of root=/dev/hda4. I haven't used this before so I entered ...
bootpage -P 'root=/dev/hda7' /dev/hde
... confirmed it echoded root=/dev/hda7 and popped it back into the hdvr2. Now I'm stuck in "Powering up" forever so obviously I hosed this command. The -P's parameter string gets single quoted, right (though I didn't think it should have mattered). I'm just worried I've got some invisible garbage characters hidden in there. Beyond that, how does it figure where to go for the alternate kernel1/2 and bootstrap1 or 2? Does the Prom bios read up the root=/dev/hdaX value and decrement X by 1 for kernel and by 2 for bootstrap?
Alternatively I've another hdvr2 #2 that's running an identical partition scheme and I'm wondering if I get yet another identical disk A, copy hdvr2's #2 image over to it and then copy in the mfs app/media partion pairs for 10/11, 12/13 and 14/15 from hdvr2 #1's disk A over the new disks empty ones with dd's if it would see them or is there someplace buried in the root or var partitions I need to tweek to get them acknowledged?
My kids will kill me if I loose the 400+ shows. I'm adding some log extract enclosures if it helps. Looks like tivoapp gets a halt 11 from an illegal read as soon as it launches.

[whitepelican]

The -P's parameter string gets single quoted, right?


I don't think that's correct. It's regular double quotes, like so:

/bootpage -P "root=/dev/hda7" -C /dev/hde

I believe you might need that -C argument depending on what version of bootpage you are using as well.

[RandCfilm]

Looks like tivoapp gets a halt 11 from an illegal read as soon as it launches.If you modified your tivoapp before upgrading to confirm everything was running OK, then start there. Reinstall original tivoapp and see if it starts up OK. If not I would replace the original vmlinux and let the system rebuild itself, there is a way to do this when the unit boots but I'm too tired to search for that now.

I don't think that's correct. It's regular double quotes, like so:

/bootpage -P "root=/dev/hda7" -C /dev/hde

I believe you might need that -C argument depending on what version of bootpage you are using as well.whitepelican is correct

[jpk]

Hmmm, one of my boxes has 6.4, the other 6.3something.

[Rainy Dave]

Hmmm, one of my boxes has 6.4, the other 6.3something.

Same here; R10 has 6.4a, DVR40 has 6.3f. Go figure.

[Rhughes]

Same here; R10 has 6.4a, DVR40 has 6.3f. Go figure.It will get there eventually. Our last TiVo got its 6.4a last night. Along with 220 deleted programs! Now I can find that program our daughter wanted us to record.

[Rainy Dave]

It will get there eventually. Our last TiVo got its 6.4a last night. Along with 220 deleted programs! Now I can find that program our daughter wanted us to record.

I'm in no real rush.

I need to upgrade that machine anyway. The hard drive is periodically clicking and causing stuttering, so I am going to put in a new drive before it fails. I'm thinking of dropping in a 500gb. :D

[mike4tivo]

Got 6.4 on one of my three DTV Tivos. Don't see anything on the websites for Tivo or Directv talking about this finally taking place. Only way I found the update on the one Tivo was after figuring out what our home phone line was "busy" for so long.

On the one that got the upgrade, I have the "recently deleted" and "overlap protection" now showing. However, anytime I go onto Directv's website to try and schedule a recording from the web, it says that I don't have a DVR and they offer to sell me one. I think I saw a few posts from others saying that got the web scheduling to work???

Are there others that got the first two features to work but not the remote scheduling ?

Are there others out there that can do remote scheduling but that came some time after the rest of the 6.4 features were available ?

Is there anything else that I need to do to enable the remote scheduling?

[schampio]

I don't think that's correct. It's regular double quotes, like so:
/bootpage -P "root=/dev/hda7" -C /dev/hde
I believe you might need that -C argument depending on what version of bootpage you are using as well.

Ah. Missed the final parameter on the parameters help screen. I'd assumed it was working as subsequent calls to bootpage -p were showing the new value. Tried it but no joy. I've blown the bootstrap or kernel I guess so I'm going to try dd'ing them off another identical hdvr2, probably along with the root partition.


If you modified your tivoapp before upgrading to confirm everything was running OK, then start there. Reinstall original tivoapp and see if it starts up OK. If not I would replace the original vmlinux and let the system rebuild itself, there is a way to do this when the unit boots but I'm too tired to search for that now.

It was an unmodified tivoapp (stock 6.4a and 6.3e except for expanded 2x300g drives) so there's no .bak copy to recover from but at this point I can't boot anyway.

---
Still would appreciate some comments on the question regarding recovering saved shows by dd'ing over just partitions 10/11-14/15 onto a newly installed (say zippered) disk set. Is there somewhere in the root/var partitions that needs diddled to recognize the MFS partitions out there or is it all hidden in the first MFS part set at 10.

And any clarification on how the bios knows where to get the alternating bootstrap and kernel partitions when I'm only passing in the bootpage 'root=/dev/hdX' parameter?

Finally, has anyone heard of an LBA48 aware solution for decrypting existing show to send them off to a tivoserver. So tired of loosing shows when DTV decides to blast me away with an upgrade.

[T1V0]

Still would appreciate some comments on the question regarding recovering saved shows by dd'ing over just partitions 10/11-14/15 onto a newly installed (say zippered) disk set. Is there somewhere in the root/var partitions that needs diddled to recognize the MFS partitions out there or is it all hidden in the first MFS part set at 10.

All video data is contained in MFS. You probably could dd it over to a new disk and get away with it. As long as the partition sizes were the same on each box it should work, otherwise I think you'd probably need to much around with the partition table a bit. Since your shows are encrypted however, they will not be playable in any tivo other than the original.
And any clarification on how the bios knows where to get the alternating bootstrap and kernel partitions when I'm only passing in the bootpage 'root=/dev/hdX' parameter?
The -b argument to bootpage will show your current kernel partition and -B can be used to change it. I wouldn't recommend trying to change it on an unhacked box unless you really know what you're doing, since the initrd is different for differing software versions. If you boot 6.4a with a virgin 6.3f kernel, every file that differs between the 2 versions will be nuked upon booting up.
Finally, has anyone heard of an LBA48 aware solution for decrypting existing show to send them off to a tivoserver. So tired of loosing shows when DTV decides to blast me away with an upgrade.
There's been a way for a few years now. Search for S2_unscramble on DDB. It's fairly involved, but not terribly difficult.

[DevilDogs]

Woke up Tuesday morning to find that my HDVR2 had rebooted. I checked for the new version and found 6.4a. "Sweet!" I thought. However, my excitement is waning. Wednesday morning, I woke up to a lockup. Thursday night, in the middle of watching a program, it locks up yet again. Did the QA team responsible for the DirecTV DVR test this version of the Tivo software? :mad:

[EricStratton]

Earlier this week I came home from a business trip to find that 6.4a had been installed on my Philips Series2 (DSR7000) DirecTiVo. I've noticed is that the picture is now too big for my screen. All tickers (like those at the bottom of ESPN, the Today Show, etc) are now almost totally off the bottom of my screen.

I already verified that the TiVo's Video -> TV Aspect Ratio is set correctly.

Am I SOL b/c my TV is an older CRT that doesn't have the ability to manipulate the size or location of the picture?

[durst]

Woke up Tuesday morning to find that my HDVR2 had rebooted. I checked for the new version and found 6.4a. "Sweet!" I thought. However, my excitement is waning. Wednesday morning, I woke up to a lockup. Thursday night, in the middle of watching a program, it locks up yet again. Did the QA team responsible for the DirecTV DVR test this version of the Tivo software? :mad:

I had the same thing with my two HDVR2's did the same thing. Would reboot several times after having 6.4a for a few days. It has been fine now for the last day or so. Keeping my fingers crossed.

[adgreb]

Has anyone gotten the update with an RCA DTivo yet?
I think I might be stuck on 6.2. I had to replace the hard drive that died in February (which had 6.3e) with a new drive from weaknees in April. It came shipped with 6.2. It never upgraded to 6.3f. Now that 6.4a is out, I'm starting to wonder if it will ever upgrade. I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't for the fact that 6.2 doesn't have the DST fix in it. Been doing daily calls, but it doesn't seem to download anything.
I also notice that the Service Data Download occurs every night, but the times for last attempt, completed are always the same, like the call in took less than a minute.
Anyone know of anything I can try?

[rbtravis]

Yes on 1 of 6 RCA's, and it is a nice update. :D

[adgreb]

When did you get the update?
Did you have problems with updating after installing larger drives?

[Cudahy]

Got the update Yesterday. While I may never use the deleted programs I can now delete a program with just one button push(use to take 2). I figure this will save me about 30 button pushes a week.

[bengalfreak]

since MRV is GONE from software after 6.2a, I'm staying where I am.

Seriously considering heading back to cable to get the full updated tivo features.

[rbtravis]

Seriously considering heading back to cable to get the full updated tivo features.
If you think cable is better you are one of the few. Guess you will be changing forums. We will miss you.:(

[bowhunter149]

Mine now is 6.4A and it keeps jumping to the directv central menu. It's like someone is pushing the button or the button is jamed. I can take the batteries out of the remote and it keeps doing it...Any Help?..anyone

[EricStratton]

Earlier this week I came home from a business trip to find that 6.4a had been installed on my Philips Series2 (DSR7000) DirecTiVo. I've noticed is that the picture is now too big for my screen. All tickers (like those at the bottom of ESPN, the Today Show, etc) are now almost totally off the bottom of my screen.

I already verified that the TiVo's Video -> TV Aspect Ratio is set correctly.

Am I SOL b/c my TV is an older CRT that doesn't have the ability to manipulate the size or location of the picture?
Never mind. I'm an idiot. My mom who was dog sitting while I was gone found some buttons on the TV remote I never knew existed. Not a problem w/ 6.4a.

[dtremain]

Never mind. I'm an idiot. My mom who was dog sitting while I was gone found some buttons on the TV remote I never knew existed. Not a problem w/ 6.4a.I've had similar situations with babysitters in the past.:D

[tivoupgrade]

Seriously considering heading back to cable to get the full updated tivo features.


Definitely something to consider. I recently dropped DIRECTV in my home because I wanted HD and did not want to use their HD DVR. Instead, I moved from an HR10-250 to a Series3 and changed providers from DIRECTV to RCN. The transition was actually very smooth, we are no longer getting artifacting or audio dropouts and of course, we are enjoying the benefits of the latest TiVo features. The difference between today's TiVo boxes and the features offered on systems like the HR10-250 are astounding.

You may want to see this thread I started awhile back when researching things prior to making my decision:

Comcast et al vs DIRECTV: Who has made the switch and is happier? (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=390180)

Lou

[edit]
PS As an aside, I had a real problem with DIRECTV regarding this situation. I called them in October and asked them if I could 'try' an HD DVR without renewing my contract, because I was uncertain whether I'd ultimately go to cable. They told me that they would upgrade my dish, send me an HD DVR and would put it on my account as owned, not leased, so that I would not have to renew my contract. This was all done with customer retention and I expected I was able to get a deal like this because I have been a customer for eleven years.

Well, to my surprise, when I cancelled my service a little over a month ago, they told me that my contract was not set to expire until October 2009 and that I needed to return the unit (which I am happy to do, even though they told me it was mine). I don't want to accuse anyone of deliberately lying, but after over 60 exasperating minutes on the phone with DIRECTV, and no resolution to the matter, I definitely do not feel guilty having left DIRECTV for cable.

Lj

[vman]

Does everyone still have deleted programs folder? We had it over the weekend, and now it's gone. It also has re-started asking us if we're sure we wanted to delete (which it had stopped doing over the weekend). Weird.

[gshumaker]

Does everyone still have deleted programs folder? We had it over the weekend, and now it's gone. It also has re-started asking us if we're sure we wanted to delete (which it had stopped doing over the weekend). Weird.

Still got it here on 3 of 3 boxes!!

[hiker]

Does everyone still have deleted programs folder? We had it over the weekend, and now it's gone. It also has re-started asking us if we're sure we wanted to delete (which it had stopped doing over the weekend). Weird.Try deleting a program and see if it shows up. Maybe if the deleted folder is empty then it doesn't show up.

[schampio]

Does everyone still have deleted programs folder? We had it over the weekend, and now it's gone. It also has re-started asking us if we're sure we wanted to delete (which it had stopped doing over the weekend). Weird.

Sounds like it crashed and reverted to 6.3e on the old partition. Check your system information. Mine did this but then went into a reboot loop. You're lucky yours didn't.

[Budget_HT]

Try deleting a program and see if it shows up. Maybe if the deleted folder is empty then it doesn't show up.

I have had an empty deleted folder at times. The folder is still there for me.

[vman]

Checked again last night. System Information says 6.4a, but there is no deleted items folder. It's so weird - we saw it over the weekend, and now nothing! We definitely have deleted some items recently.

[ejg25]

On the one that got the upgrade, I have the "recently deleted" and "overlap protection" now showing. However, anytime I go onto Directv's website to try and schedule a recording from the web, it says that I don't have a DVR and they offer to sell me one. I think I saw a few posts from others saying that got the web scheduling to work???

Are there others that got the first two features to work but not the remote scheduling ?

Are there others out there that can do remote scheduling but that came some time after the rest of the 6.4 features were available ?

Is there anything else that I need to do to enable the remote scheduling?

This is my situation as well. I read the thread, the information on this seems to differ. Some have it, some say it will be rolled out on July 31, some say that date's probably imaginary.

Does anyone know what the status of this is? Is there anything we can do to activate the remote scheduling?

[adgreb]

Finally received 6.4a on Friday night on my RCA DVR40.
No problems so far, delete items folder is present (with about 40 items), and the overall system seems a bit faster (menu navigating, channel surfing, etc).
Have not looked into remote scheduling yet.

[dtremain]

Have not looked into remote scheduling yet.I don't think that it's up and running for TiVos yet. The only people that have posted using it here have Directv branded units, as far as I can see.

[macizcool]

I haven't heard anyone say they have had stability problems. I am tempted to allow this to download, as I am still on 6.1 and the UI is sluggish. If things don't go well, I could always pull the drive out of another R10 I have that has 6.1 on its drive.

Can anyone comment on the stability thus far?

[Barryrod]

One thing I don't like about the 6.4a is no confirmation when deleting a program. If you hit delete by accident...it is gone.

[dtremain]

I haven't heard anyone say they have had stability problems. I am tempted to allow this to download, as I am still on 6.1 and the UI is sluggish. If things don't go well, I could always pull the drive out of another R10 I have that has 6.1 on its drive.

Can anyone comment on the stability thus far?No problems so far on an R-10 that's had it for a couple of weeks and a Samsung S4120R that got it last week. The Samsung had never upgraded to 6.3f (a problem with Samsungs for some reason), and would crash during rain fades. The heavy thunderstorms of the other night seem to have proven 6.4a to be a lot more stable.

[dtremain]

One thing I don't like about the 6.4a is no confirmation when deleting a program. If you hit delete by accident...it is gone.No. It's in the "recently deleted" folder that is now at the bottom of the list. That's better than just one second chance.

[DevilDogs]

I haven't heard anyone say they have had stability problems. I am tempted to allow this to download, as I am still on 6.1 and the UI is sluggish. If things don't go well, I could always pull the drive out of another R10 I have that has 6.1 on its drive.

Can anyone comment on the stability thus far?

I've had 3 lockups since I received the update on June 3rd. I also had it reboot once while booting from the last lockup. I have an HDVR2, so the lockups may not happen for your R10. I didn't have the problems others had with 6.3e, so maybe it's my time to have lockups and reboots.

[Tim32672]

This is my situation as well. I read the thread, the information on this seems to differ. Some have it, some say it will be rolled out on July 31, some say that date's probably imaginary.

Does anyone know what the status of this is? Is there anything we can do to activate the remote scheduling?

Only the shadow knows...lol I hope it is sooner than the July date I was quoted though...

[stevel]

Remote Scheduling works on my HR10-250.

[curbside]

I don't think that it's up and running for TiVos yet. The only people that have posted using it here have Directv branded units, as far as I can see.


Remote booking works great on my HR10-250. I'm just updating my R10 so I'll check that out later.

[dcstager]

It's still not working on my Hughes SD-DVR80. At the DVR Scheduler page, it lists what models DVR scheduler will work with. It's still listed as beta, so hopefully more models to come.

[tigercat74]

i know I posted this in some other threads, but all three of my DVRs running 6.4a rebooted during a storm the other day.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Both of my Samsungs 4040 and Hughes SD-DVR80 have 6.4a but I can't online schedule yet.

[Tim32672]

It's still not working on my Hughes SD-DVR80. At the DVR Scheduler page, it lists what models DVR scheduler will work with. It's still listed as beta, so hopefully more models to come.

Where do you see the list?

[dcstager]

Where do you see the list?

At the DirectTV DVR scheduler page. The top page. At the top of the page you see "DVR Scheduler Beta" and below that they tell you which models can be used. It couldn't be more obvious.

It says: "DVR SCHEDULER works with the DIRECTV Plus® DVR receivers (R15, R16-300), the DIRECTV Plus® HD DVR receivers (HR20) and our latest model — HR21. You can send a record request to a specific DVR in your home and even prioritize the recording. If you don't have a DVR receiver yet, you can easily upgrade today."

The HR10-250 works too as several users have reported even though it's not listed.

[dcstager]

i know I posted this in some other threads, but all three of my DVRs running 6.4a rebooted during a storm the other day.

You probably had a power surge, spike, or flash outage. Get yourself an uninterruptable power supply.

[tigercat74]

You probably had a power surge, spike, or flash outage. Get yourself an uninterruptable power supply.

They are all on UPS. The only time mine have rebooted have been during bad weather, that includes when they were on 6.3e.